June 21, 2022 • 27 mins
In this episode Global Bob (Brian Varner) talks about one of the latest Internet sensations and hoax known as the hydrogen water car. This is not the same as the hydrogen fuel cell. This is a claim that you can run a internal combustion engine on water by using a system that splits the water in to hydrogen and oxygen. He explains the complexities of this in simple terms and at a high level.
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All right. All right, here we go. It's that time of
the week for the global BobShow, the Globalbob show the
crossroad of technology, andpolitics. This is episode number
14. And it's titled, Thehydrogen car hoax. That's right.
(00:32):
I said it's a hoax. Now, thispodcast is really going to fuse
technology and politics becauseyou can't have one without the
other. And this conversation.
Now, like to thank everybodythat tunes in as always, every
week, this podcast is beingmoved now to be released on
(00:54):
Tuesdays instead of Monday. Andso I didn't get it uploaded
yesterday, and I got a call fromtwo separate people wanting to
check in on Globalbob, becausethe show did not get published
yesterday. So here goingforward, we're going to be
publishing on Tuesdays. So thankyou, everyone that tunes in, of
(01:17):
course, and those that share,you can submit your topics that
you'd like for me to discusseither at the Facebook page
Globalbob show on Twitter atGlobalbob show, or you can email
me global bob@gmail.com. Solet's dive right on into this.
(01:41):
Now, unless you're a multi corebillionaire, that that's even a
word, then you are probablyfilling the gas crunch. I mean,
this gas and diesel fuel and therest of the fuel like jet fuel,
and everything is through theroof right now. And that is due
(02:03):
and part two, some of ourpolitical decisions, which at
the time, we were neutral, andactually exporting more fuel
than what we used. But now thatis not the case. So at the time
of this recording, average costof gas is 498. And the highest
(02:25):
average now, it's not thehighest, the highest that it's
been is a little over $5. Buttoday, in California, the
average cost of gas is $6.39.
Now, man, that is, that iscrazy. And as we know, the way
(02:49):
that our economy works,everything is based off of fuel
price. So the price of gas goesup your yard, man, if you have
one of those, he's going tocharge you more to mow your
yard. And if you don't have ayard, man, it's going to cost
you more to mow your yard. Ifyou get something delivered,
that's going to be costing youmore I know Uber Eats. And Uber
(03:13):
they got a little fuel surchargegoing on there. And it's just
really putting the strain on alot of people. Now, I don't know
if this is true or not. But whatI read or heard is that the
average couple is spending over$5,000 more a year, just in cost
due to these fuel increases. Sowe're all filling it, you get
(03:39):
some shipped in ups, youtake a flight somewhere, I mean,
this gas pricing is reallyhurting a lot of people. So
that's why when this happens,you see a couple things start to
happen on the internet. You seepeople start talking about
getting electric cars and useutilizing electric tools more.
(04:00):
And I'll say the electric toolsnow we've had drills and stuff
like that for quite some timesthat were battery operated. But
you know, now they even havelawn mowers that are battery
operated and chainsaws that arebattery operated. And when you
buy those that equipment, thenyou don't have to pay for the
fuel to go directly into theequipment, you just have to pay
(04:23):
on your electric bill to chargeit. And we could do a whole
nother podcast on the actualeconomics of running an electric
vehicle. But one other thingthat pops up if not electric
vehicles, and that is the watercar or hydrogen cars. Now we're
going to unpack this a littlebit but this topic was submitted
(04:46):
by my cousin. He had got amessage on Facebook that talked
about the water car and how wecan just power our cars based
off of water. And that's whatthis episode is going to be
about as how this is a realhoax. So just like when any
pandemic happens, or politicalwars start to happen? Well, when
(05:07):
the rise of gas goes up, peoplestart looking for alternatives
and they instantly becomeexperts in the field. Now, I'm
no expert in that field, I'mjust someone that has been
following renewable energy andclean energy for quite some
time. So I decided to puttogether this podcast and
(05:30):
explain it. Now, there's allkinds of alternatives to
gasoline, alternative fuels arenot anything new. One
alternative fuel that has had areal impact is the biodiesel. So
pure biodiesel or be 100, itdoes reduce the carbon emissions
by about 75%. There's alsothings out there, like ethanol,
(05:54):
some of our cars now burnethanol, and we understand the
nuances around ethanol, you pullup to an ethanol pump, and you
put in that bat five and higherethanol, and then you get out on
the interstate. And you noticethat your car doesn't have as
much power. So there's somedrawbacks to to the ethanol. And
(06:16):
there's natural gas, you canpower internal combustion
engines off of natural gas, andpropane. So there's a bunch of
different options for that. Now,something I think's kind of cool
with the natural gas is thatthat can be collected from
(06:38):
garbage dumps, and cow manure.
So these dairy farms that havethe cows and confined locations,
they can siphon that off. Youcan even siphon off methane gas
off of your septic tank if youhave one. And people do do this.
I mean, you can get online andsee some crazy people such as
(07:00):
myself that that hook up asiphon type system to their
septic tank, and they're able toharness that methane gas and use
it for heating and for cookingon. And then of course, propane.
Now propane is still part of anoil process. A lot of the the
(07:23):
propane is what they burn off atthe field. So when you see the
pictures online of either theoil derelict out in the Gulf of
Mexico or out in the PersianGulf, you see that flame coming
off, that's what they're burningoff, they're burning off that
that propane, but there'svehicles that run off of propane
(07:43):
as well. I know that the localsheriff's department here, Polk
Sheriff, most of their vehicles,they can either fill them with
propane, or they can fill themwith regular fuel. And a friend
of ours way back, I think thiswas in the 80s or 90s, he
actually had a Ford truck thathe bought, and it wasn't
converted to propane, itactually came with propane. And
(08:07):
so reason why I feel likepropane really hasn't taken off
is probably the same reason whythe hydrogen fuel cell car
hasn't taken off, because you'redealing with gases that are
under immense amount ofpressure. And you just don't
really pull up there to any gasstation and say, you know, fill
(08:29):
it up with propane. And we'regoing to talk about the hydrogen
fuel car herea little bit. But back to the
topic. So we've had a lot ofalternatives to the traditional
petroleum based gas system. Butthe one that has really taken
the internet by storm yet again,is the water car. Now, if you
look it up, the water car saysthat it produces its power based
(08:54):
off of hydrogen. So this isn'tto be confused with the hydrogen
fuel cell car. Hydrogen fuelcells are very different than
what we're talking about here.
So let me just tell you thedifference between the two. On a
hydrogen fuel cell car you havehydrogen gas, and it's stored
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inside of a tank. And when yougo to the station, you hook it
up and it pressurizes that tank.
That tank then takes and putsthe hydrogen into the anode side
of a cell and it's hollow. Andon the other side of the cell,
the cathode and it has theoutside air in there. And
(09:45):
basically the way it works isthat there's a catalyst and that
catalyst splits the hydrogen upand when it splits it up into
two separate pieces. Is theproton and the electron? Well,
the electron flows through awire up and around and tries to
meet up with the other side. Andwhen it does, it comes together,
(10:10):
and it produces water. Nowthat's a hydrogen fuel cell very
quick. And that's totallydifferent than what these hoaxes
are, that are being sold on theinternet. So there, I think
there is a place for hydrogenfuel cells.
But when you look at it, it'sstill it's something that's
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creating electricity. So insteadof having a battery, you have
this hydrogen fuel cell thatcreates electricity, and that
electricity is stored in ormentally, inside of a battery
that can then be used by thewheels. So totally different
than what we're talking about.
What I'm talking about, arethese apparatuses that you can
buy on eBay, or Amazon. Or youcould make them yourself,
(10:58):
they're actually pretty simpleto make. And you basically fill
them up with water, put a littlebit of baking soda in there. And
once you put the electricalcurrent on them, they generate
hydrogen gas, the way they do itis through electrolysis, so the
energy flowing through thatwater will take that water
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molecule, the h2 Oh, right,splits it apart, you have
hydrogen, and you have oxygen,then that bubbles come up to the
top, and they go into a tube.
That tube takes and transportsthe hydrogen oxygen mixture down
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into the air intake of thecombustion engine. And from
there, it mixes with the air andthe fuel. And the spark happens.
And according to them, you canrun your car off of this
hydrogen. But there's a lot alot of problems with this. I
mean, we have all kinds ofproblems. The first major
(12:03):
problem is that you have thelaws of physics. And I say it
all the time, you cannotovercome the laws of physics, no
matter how much we try. And ifyou all still remember back when
you're in physics class, there'ssome basic principles and play,
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we all know that you cannot havea perpetual motion machine. And
that's kind of what you'relooking for here. When you put
this apparatus on, you're havingthe machine generate the fuel to
then power itself. Butbasically, if you have a
machine, or let's just call it asystem, and you do not put
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energy into the system fromoutside the system, then energy
cannot be created and energycannot be destroyed, it can only
move about the system. And weknow that the system is not
efficient. There's tons and tonsand tons of loss inside of a car
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car is a very loss system, yougot friction from the tires on
the road, you got friction inthe crankshaft, you have
friction in the transmission.
And so when your car is usingjust petroleum based gas, most
of the energy is transferredoutside the system or outside
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the car via heat, and friction.
So right there, you can see howthere's no way that a system or
vehicle can generate its ownpower. And that's essentially
what we're asking it to do. Soif I've not convinced you yet,
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I'm sure that you're probablysearching Google searching all
over the place and YouTube. Andjust like with anything that's
an internet sensation, you haveboth sides of the camp. Me I put
my trust in physics andthermodynamics, and I understand
that this is not possible. Theclaims just simply are not
(14:10):
accurate. But I haven'tconvinced you. So you go out and
you're going to buy this bubblersystem, and you're going to
attach it to your car. Andhere's where a few things are
going to come in. One. Your caris a very smart vehicle. You
know, there's a lot of computingpower in there, and your car is
(14:32):
constantly measuring the air.
Now I'm old enough to remember atime way back in the day when my
dad used to work on his ChevyNova. And that Nova did not have
a computer system in there. Andso you would have to tune it up.
You would have to adjust the airmixture that's going into the
engine. So if you took the carup into the mountains, then you
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would have to lean it out andthen If you come down the
mountain, you'd have to retuneit up. Now, I'm not a gearhead,
I think that's what happens whenyou go up, you lean it, when you
come down, you're rich and itup. But your car these days is
constantly measuring that andmaking those adjustments. So now
you're going to put highlyflammable hydrogen and oxygen
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into that air intake, and yourcar's computer system is going
to try to compensate for that.
So the first thing that thesefolks do when they hook this up
to any modern car is is thatthey have to disable parts of
the computer system. Now,they'll sell you some chips
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along with your little magicbumbler that will do some of
this for you. But, you know,take it to the dealership, and
they pick up the code plug,they're gonna go to see there's
issues with it. Not to mentionthat once you bypass the fuel
system, that's constantlyadjusting the air mixture,
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you're going to have to lean outthat vehicle, or your vehicle
will lean out, and you can causedamage to your cylinder heads.
And you can cause damage to yourspark plugs, and you hope one of
those don't break off. Well, ifall of that stays together, then
the other part is, is thathydrogen gas is highly
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corrosive. So when you'repumping in this hydrogen, if you
can get enough hydrogen in thereto start running, the flame on
hydrogen is much hotter. Now yourun the risk of causing damage
because of the heat and also thecorrosion of the parts inside
your vehicle. So you're stillnot convinced you don't care
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about the corrosion, you don'tcare about bypass and your
computer system there. Now, Idid mention this a little bit
and talking about the hydrogenrunning much hotter. Well,
that's because it has a lothigher flammability to it. And
it has a lower ignition to sparkand actually ignite. So you go
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to put this bomb of sorts upunder the hood of your car,
there's all kinds of things thatcan happen you could actually
get because the hydrogen beingless dense than the fuel, if you
get a backfire, that backfirecould travel its way all the way
up the tube and cause your carto explode. I would like to be a
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fly on the wall when you callyour insurance company to
explain why you got hookeddamage. And the adjuster comes
out and takes a look and askwhat what happened up under the
hood. And of course, they'regoing to know that you had
something that was on the car.
And maybe if you tell them it'shydrogen, then they're not going
(17:52):
to approve your claim. This isall just really, really, really
bad stuff. But it does warn someinvestigation just so you can
laugh at some of the people thatare out there that do this. Now,
when you look at this hydrogenwater car, there have been
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people in the past that makethese claims. And one of them
was a fella by the name ofStanley Meyer. Now Stanley Meyer
is really to the hydrogeninternal combustion engine car,
the water cars, we call it he'skind of the godfather of this.
And he was a very smart man.
Don't, don't get me wrong. Heworked on some of the NASA
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projects. claim is I think hehad like over 200,000 patents. I
mean, that's a lot of patents.
200,000 patents, very smart guy.
And he made these claims about awater cell. Now according to
Stanley, he was able to have abuggy that would run off of this
(18:57):
system that I had talked to youabout earlier, and he could
drive this across the country.
But there's all these rumorsaround how he died. He died in
1998. And, you know, when youlook at it, I don't know he
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people claim that he wasassassinated, essentially,
that's the word to use. Becausehe had something that could put
the oil and gas companies out ofbusiness. Now, in 1998, he was
at a Cracker Barrel with hisbrother, I believe the story
goes, and he was meeting up withsome of the Belgian folks and he
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ordered some cranberry juice.
And when he drank some of thecranberry juice, he started
throwing up very violently. Andhe grabbed his throat and told
his brother that they had pointsisn't him so it was him and his
brother and to Belgium folks ata Cracker Barrel. But the
autopsy shows that he actuallyhad an aneurysm I believe in the
(20:07):
brain. And that's what he diedfrom. But, you know, the story
that the internet talks about,that he was assassinated because
of his invention here, the watercar. There's also here recently,
another guy that the news folksinterviewed, that was later I
(20:27):
think shot. And people claimthat that was because he was
very close to this water car.
Lots of good stuff out there.
That's not good stuff. But lotsof good stuff out there as far
as the research into how thiswater car works. But
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here at the Globalbob show, Ijust want to tell my listeners
that go out and try it.
Hopefully you don't burn up yourengine. And if not, at least you
got something that can make somehydrogen, maybe you can fill up
balloons for a party orsomething with it. But you know,
just be aware that as the priceof gas continues to go up, that
there's going to be many ofthese things that come out. But
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still, we cannot bend the lawsof physics. Therefore, we cannot
have a machine that can createits own electricity that then
creates its own hydrogen,there's just way too many losses
and the various components, andthere's just not really a way
around it. Now I do believe thatwe will have alternative fuel
(21:33):
vehicles outside of justelectricity. There has been some
very wild things back in the50s. One that was pretty cool
was Ford, I believe it was in1958, Ford actually had a
prototype plans to build anucular powered vehicle. That's
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right nuclear powered vehicle,which I think that's pretty
neat. And basically, it was asteam engine. And if you look it
up, it was called the Fordnucleon. And this nucleon had
the passenger sitting wayforward, I think it is there
even sat forward than the frontwheels. And that was because the
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car was so heavy, they were thenuclear reactor in the back that
they had to balance it out. Andit was also led blind. So I
think we have enough problemscleaning up oil spills, when
trucks flip over and cars andstuff, I don't want to have to
clean up any nuclear spills atthe intersection here. So I
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think they're, you know, one daycould be other alternatives to
that. Now, we already know thatthe solar energy that then
charges a car is pretty neat andclean. But there's also a lot of
waste around creating thosesolar panels. There's also talks
(23:01):
of basically creating thesesmall nuclear reactors, some of
them can be as small as a thumb,and you can do your research on
this. And this is basicallywhere they take the old nuclear
waste from power plants. Andthey encase it in a man made
(23:23):
industrial diamond. And thenthat diamond and nuclear waste
react with each other to createelectricity. So that's not a
thermo new color. This is theactual creating of electrons
from the new color materialinteracting with the diamond.
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Now looking at that technology,you know, it would really
revolutionize a lot of thingsbut not just for transportation.
It looks like thatthere's a company out in
California that's really closeto this. And what they would use
it for is for pacemakers andother devices like insulin pumps
and stuff where they got to haveconstant energy but not a lot of
(24:10):
energy. But they could use thesesmall nucular diamond waste
chips, I guess that's what youwant to call it to generate
power so people don't have to gothrough multiple surgeries but
I've done a little digging intothat. And one of the main
problems that I see is is thatthese devices would have to be
(24:35):
100% recyclable like you wouldhave to basically like they need
to put some rules around thatyou have to recycle this not
just you know recycle it if youwant to because you would be
throwing the nuclear materialand the trash can. And also to I
was thinking about this is thatwhat if you could have a cell
(24:56):
phone that never needed a chargeEugene port on it at all,
because it could run off of thistype of material. So, you know,
we can't say that we won't everhave a car that runs off of some
other type of material. But justto bring this all back together,
I know gas is through the roof,I know that everybody's looking
for ways to save money. Butthese water cars and converting
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an internal combustion engine torun off a hydrogen. That's just
not it. So don't, don't go putthis on your 2022 Mercedes.
Which brings me to anotherpoint, you know, if this
technology was available, and itgave, you know, an upper hand on
fuel economy and stuff, you knowthat the the companies would be
(25:45):
doing this, I mean, the carmanufacturers, whoever has the
best miles per gallon is the onethat people are going to go for.
I mean, that's why you're seeingpeople go to electric cars now.
Because if you do the economicson electric car, if you're in
shorter, short distances, thenit is more efficient to run it
off of electric. But I may do awhole nother podcast just on the
(26:09):
electric car, because there's alot of nuances around those
being a longtime electricvehicle driver. I can tell you
all the good and all the badwith it, but All right, well,
we're at the bottom of the halfhour. So I know this was kind of
technical. And we took a deepdive in there, but it's
something that I want to getahead of and make sure that
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everybody is well aware that youdon't want to be strapping these
hydrogen producing gashesbubbling up under the hood of
your car, because there's justway too much that could go
wrong. All right. Well, asalways, thanks for tuning in.
And you can reach me viaFacebook page, Twitter, or you
(26:55):
can send me an email. And withthat, I'll see you next week.
All right. All right, here we go. It's that time of
the week for the global BobShow, the Globalbob show the
crossroad of technology, andpolitics. This is episode number
14. And it's titled, Thehydrogen car hoax. That's right.
(00:32):
I said it's a hoax. Now, thispodcast is really going to fuse
technology and politics becauseyou can't have one without the
other. And this conversation.
Now, like to thank everybodythat tunes in as always, every
week, this podcast is beingmoved now to be released on
(00:54):
Tuesdays instead of Monday. Andso I didn't get it uploaded
yesterday, and I got a call fromtwo separate people wanting to
check in on Globalbob, becausethe show did not get published
yesterday. So here goingforward, we're going to be
publishing on Tuesdays. So thankyou, everyone that tunes in, of
(01:17):
course, and those that share,you can submit your topics that
you'd like for me to discusseither at the Facebook page
Globalbob show on Twitter atGlobalbob show, or you can email
me global bob@gmail.com. Solet's dive right on into this.
(01:41):
Now, unless you're a multi corebillionaire, that that's even a
word, then you are probablyfilling the gas crunch. I mean,
this gas and diesel fuel and therest of the fuel like jet fuel,
and everything is through theroof right now. And that is due
(02:03):
and part two, some of ourpolitical decisions, which at
the time, we were neutral, andactually exporting more fuel
than what we used. But now thatis not the case. So at the time
of this recording, average costof gas is 498. And the highest
(02:25):
average now, it's not thehighest, the highest that it's
been is a little over $5. Buttoday, in California, the
average cost of gas is $6.39.
Now, man, that is, that iscrazy. And as we know, the way
(02:49):
that our economy works,everything is based off of fuel
price. So the price of gas goesup your yard, man, if you have
one of those, he's going tocharge you more to mow your
yard. And if you don't have ayard, man, it's going to cost
you more to mow your yard. Ifyou get something delivered,
that's going to be costing youmore I know Uber Eats. And Uber
(03:13):
they got a little fuel surchargegoing on there. And it's just
really putting the strain on alot of people. Now, I don't know
if this is true or not. But whatI read or heard is that the
average couple is spending over$5,000 more a year, just in cost
due to these fuel increases. Sowe're all filling it, you get
(03:39):
some shipped in ups, youtake a flight somewhere, I mean,
this gas pricing is reallyhurting a lot of people. So
that's why when this happens,you see a couple things start to
happen on the internet. You seepeople start talking about
getting electric cars and useutilizing electric tools more.
(04:00):
And I'll say the electric toolsnow we've had drills and stuff
like that for quite some timesthat were battery operated. But
you know, now they even havelawn mowers that are battery
operated and chainsaws that arebattery operated. And when you
buy those that equipment, thenyou don't have to pay for the
fuel to go directly into theequipment, you just have to pay
(04:23):
on your electric bill to chargeit. And we could do a whole
nother podcast on the actualeconomics of running an electric
vehicle. But one other thingthat pops up if not electric
vehicles, and that is the watercar or hydrogen cars. Now we're
going to unpack this a littlebit but this topic was submitted
(04:46):
by my cousin. He had got amessage on Facebook that talked
about the water car and how wecan just power our cars based
off of water. And that's whatthis episode is going to be
about as how this is a realhoax. So just like when any
pandemic happens, or politicalwars start to happen? Well, when
(05:07):
the rise of gas goes up, peoplestart looking for alternatives
and they instantly becomeexperts in the field. Now, I'm
no expert in that field, I'mjust someone that has been
following renewable energy andclean energy for quite some
time. So I decided to puttogether this podcast and
(05:30):
explain it. Now, there's allkinds of alternatives to
gasoline, alternative fuels arenot anything new. One
alternative fuel that has had areal impact is the biodiesel. So
pure biodiesel or be 100, itdoes reduce the carbon emissions
by about 75%. There's alsothings out there, like ethanol,
(05:54):
some of our cars now burnethanol, and we understand the
nuances around ethanol, you pullup to an ethanol pump, and you
put in that bat five and higherethanol, and then you get out on
the interstate. And you noticethat your car doesn't have as
much power. So there's somedrawbacks to to the ethanol. And
(06:16):
there's natural gas, you canpower internal combustion
engines off of natural gas, andpropane. So there's a bunch of
different options for that. Now,something I think's kind of cool
with the natural gas is thatthat can be collected from
(06:38):
garbage dumps, and cow manure.
So these dairy farms that havethe cows and confined locations,
they can siphon that off. Youcan even siphon off methane gas
off of your septic tank if youhave one. And people do do this.
I mean, you can get online andsee some crazy people such as
(07:00):
myself that that hook up asiphon type system to their
septic tank, and they're able toharness that methane gas and use
it for heating and for cookingon. And then of course, propane.
Now propane is still part of anoil process. A lot of the the
(07:23):
propane is what they burn off atthe field. So when you see the
pictures online of either theoil derelict out in the Gulf of
Mexico or out in the PersianGulf, you see that flame coming
off, that's what they're burningoff, they're burning off that
that propane, but there'svehicles that run off of propane
(07:43):
as well. I know that the localsheriff's department here, Polk
Sheriff, most of their vehicles,they can either fill them with
propane, or they can fill themwith regular fuel. And a friend
of ours way back, I think thiswas in the 80s or 90s, he
actually had a Ford truck thathe bought, and it wasn't
converted to propane, itactually came with propane. And
(08:07):
so reason why I feel likepropane really hasn't taken off
is probably the same reason whythe hydrogen fuel cell car
hasn't taken off, because you'redealing with gases that are
under immense amount ofpressure. And you just don't
really pull up there to any gasstation and say, you know, fill
(08:29):
it up with propane. And we'regoing to talk about the hydrogen
fuel car herea little bit. But back to the
topic. So we've had a lot ofalternatives to the traditional
petroleum based gas system. Butthe one that has really taken
the internet by storm yet again,is the water car. Now, if you
look it up, the water car saysthat it produces its power based
(08:54):
off of hydrogen. So this isn'tto be confused with the hydrogen
fuel cell car. Hydrogen fuelcells are very different than
what we're talking about here.
So let me just tell you thedifference between the two. On a
hydrogen fuel cell car you havehydrogen gas, and it's stored
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inside of a tank. And when yougo to the station, you hook it
up and it pressurizes that tank.
That tank then takes and putsthe hydrogen into the anode side
of a cell and it's hollow. Andon the other side of the cell,
the cathode and it has theoutside air in there. And
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basically the way it works isthat there's a catalyst and that
catalyst splits the hydrogen upand when it splits it up into
two separate pieces. Is theproton and the electron? Well,
the electron flows through awire up and around and tries to
meet up with the other side. Andwhen it does, it comes together,
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and it produces water. Nowthat's a hydrogen fuel cell very
quick. And that's totallydifferent than what these hoaxes
are, that are being sold on theinternet. So there, I think
there is a place for hydrogenfuel cells.
But when you look at it, it'sstill it's something that's
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creating electricity. So insteadof having a battery, you have
this hydrogen fuel cell thatcreates electricity, and that
electricity is stored in ormentally, inside of a battery
that can then be used by thewheels. So totally different
than what we're talking about.
What I'm talking about, arethese apparatuses that you can
buy on eBay, or Amazon. Or youcould make them yourself,
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they're actually pretty simpleto make. And you basically fill
them up with water, put a littlebit of baking soda in there. And
once you put the electricalcurrent on them, they generate
hydrogen gas, the way they do itis through electrolysis, so the
energy flowing through thatwater will take that water
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molecule, the h2 Oh, right,splits it apart, you have
hydrogen, and you have oxygen,then that bubbles come up to the
top, and they go into a tube.
That tube takes and transportsthe hydrogen oxygen mixture down
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into the air intake of thecombustion engine. And from
there, it mixes with the air andthe fuel. And the spark happens.
And according to them, you canrun your car off of this
hydrogen. But there's a lot alot of problems with this. I
mean, we have all kinds ofproblems. The first major
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problem is that you have thelaws of physics. And I say it
all the time, you cannotovercome the laws of physics, no
matter how much we try. And ifyou all still remember back when
you're in physics class, there'ssome basic principles and play,
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we all know that you cannot havea perpetual motion machine. And
that's kind of what you'relooking for here. When you put
this apparatus on, you're havingthe machine generate the fuel to
then power itself. Butbasically, if you have a
machine, or let's just call it asystem, and you do not put
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energy into the system fromoutside the system, then energy
cannot be created and energycannot be destroyed, it can only
move about the system. And weknow that the system is not
efficient. There's tons and tonsand tons of loss inside of a car
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car is a very loss system, yougot friction from the tires on
the road, you got friction inthe crankshaft, you have
friction in the transmission.
And so when your car is usingjust petroleum based gas, most
of the energy is transferredoutside the system or outside
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the car via heat, and friction.
So right there, you can see howthere's no way that a system or
vehicle can generate its ownpower. And that's essentially
what we're asking it to do. Soif I've not convinced you yet,
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I'm sure that you're probablysearching Google searching all
over the place and YouTube. Andjust like with anything that's
an internet sensation, you haveboth sides of the camp. Me I put
my trust in physics andthermodynamics, and I understand
that this is not possible. Theclaims just simply are not
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accurate. But I haven'tconvinced you. So you go out and
you're going to buy this bubblersystem, and you're going to
attach it to your car. Andhere's where a few things are
going to come in. One. Your caris a very smart vehicle. You
know, there's a lot of computingpower in there, and your car is
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constantly measuring the air.
Now I'm old enough to remember atime way back in the day when my
dad used to work on his ChevyNova. And that Nova did not have
a computer system in there. Andso you would have to tune it up.
You would have to adjust the airmixture that's going into the
engine. So if you took the carup into the mountains, then you
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would have to lean it out andthen If you come down the
mountain, you'd have to retuneit up. Now, I'm not a gearhead,
I think that's what happens whenyou go up, you lean it, when you
come down, you're rich and itup. But your car these days is
constantly measuring that andmaking those adjustments. So now
you're going to put highlyflammable hydrogen and oxygen
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into that air intake, and yourcar's computer system is going
to try to compensate for that.
So the first thing that thesefolks do when they hook this up
to any modern car is is thatthey have to disable parts of
the computer system. Now,they'll sell you some chips
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along with your little magicbumbler that will do some of
this for you. But, you know,take it to the dealership, and
they pick up the code plug,they're gonna go to see there's
issues with it. Not to mentionthat once you bypass the fuel
system, that's constantlyadjusting the air mixture,
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you're going to have to lean outthat vehicle, or your vehicle
will lean out, and you can causedamage to your cylinder heads.
And you can cause damage to yourspark plugs, and you hope one of
those don't break off. Well, ifall of that stays together, then
the other part is, is thathydrogen gas is highly
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corrosive. So when you'repumping in this hydrogen, if you
can get enough hydrogen in thereto start running, the flame on
hydrogen is much hotter. Now yourun the risk of causing damage
because of the heat and also thecorrosion of the parts inside
your vehicle. So you're stillnot convinced you don't care
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about the corrosion, you don'tcare about bypass and your
computer system there. Now, Idid mention this a little bit
and talking about the hydrogenrunning much hotter. Well,
that's because it has a lothigher flammability to it. And
it has a lower ignition to sparkand actually ignite. So you go
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to put this bomb of sorts upunder the hood of your car,
there's all kinds of things thatcan happen you could actually
get because the hydrogen beingless dense than the fuel, if you
get a backfire, that backfirecould travel its way all the way
up the tube and cause your carto explode. I would like to be a
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fly on the wall when you callyour insurance company to
explain why you got hookeddamage. And the adjuster comes
out and takes a look and askwhat what happened up under the
hood. And of course, they'regoing to know that you had
something that was on the car.
And maybe if you tell them it'shydrogen, then they're not going
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to approve your claim. This isall just really, really, really
bad stuff. But it does warn someinvestigation just so you can
laugh at some of the people thatare out there that do this. Now,
when you look at this hydrogenwater car, there have been
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people in the past that makethese claims. And one of them
was a fella by the name ofStanley Meyer. Now Stanley Meyer
is really to the hydrogeninternal combustion engine car,
the water cars, we call it he'skind of the godfather of this.
And he was a very smart man.
Don't, don't get me wrong. Heworked on some of the NASA
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projects. claim is I think hehad like over 200,000 patents. I
mean, that's a lot of patents.
200,000 patents, very smart guy.
And he made these claims about awater cell. Now according to
Stanley, he was able to have abuggy that would run off of this
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system that I had talked to youabout earlier, and he could
drive this across the country.
But there's all these rumorsaround how he died. He died in
1998. And, you know, when youlook at it, I don't know he
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people claim that he wasassassinated, essentially,
that's the word to use. Becausehe had something that could put
the oil and gas companies out ofbusiness. Now, in 1998, he was
at a Cracker Barrel with hisbrother, I believe the story
goes, and he was meeting up withsome of the Belgian folks and he
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ordered some cranberry juice.
And when he drank some of thecranberry juice, he started
throwing up very violently. Andhe grabbed his throat and told
his brother that they had pointsisn't him so it was him and his
brother and to Belgium folks ata Cracker Barrel. But the
autopsy shows that he actuallyhad an aneurysm I believe in the
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brain. And that's what he diedfrom. But, you know, the story
that the internet talks about,that he was assassinated because
of his invention here, the watercar. There's also here recently,
another guy that the news folksinterviewed, that was later I
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think shot. And people claimthat that was because he was
very close to this water car.
Lots of good stuff out there.
That's not good stuff. But lotsof good stuff out there as far
as the research into how thiswater car works. But
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here at the Globalbob show, Ijust want to tell my listeners
that go out and try it.
Hopefully you don't burn up yourengine. And if not, at least you
got something that can make somehydrogen, maybe you can fill up
balloons for a party orsomething with it. But you know,
just be aware that as the priceof gas continues to go up, that
there's going to be many ofthese things that come out. But
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still, we cannot bend the lawsof physics. Therefore, we cannot
have a machine that can createits own electricity that then
creates its own hydrogen,there's just way too many losses
and the various components, andthere's just not really a way
around it. Now I do believe thatwe will have alternative fuel
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vehicles outside of justelectricity. There has been some
very wild things back in the50s. One that was pretty cool
was Ford, I believe it was in1958, Ford actually had a
prototype plans to build anucular powered vehicle. That's
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right nuclear powered vehicle,which I think that's pretty
neat. And basically, it was asteam engine. And if you look it
up, it was called the Fordnucleon. And this nucleon had
the passenger sitting wayforward, I think it is there
even sat forward than the frontwheels. And that was because the
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car was so heavy, they were thenuclear reactor in the back that
they had to balance it out. Andit was also led blind. So I
think we have enough problemscleaning up oil spills, when
trucks flip over and cars andstuff, I don't want to have to
clean up any nuclear spills atthe intersection here. So I
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think they're, you know, one daycould be other alternatives to
that. Now, we already know thatthe solar energy that then
charges a car is pretty neat andclean. But there's also a lot of
waste around creating thosesolar panels. There's also talks
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of basically creating thesesmall nuclear reactors, some of
them can be as small as a thumb,and you can do your research on
this. And this is basicallywhere they take the old nuclear
waste from power plants. Andthey encase it in a man made
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industrial diamond. And thenthat diamond and nuclear waste
react with each other to createelectricity. So that's not a
thermo new color. This is theactual creating of electrons
from the new color materialinteracting with the diamond.
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Now looking at that technology,you know, it would really
revolutionize a lot of thingsbut not just for transportation.
It looks like thatthere's a company out in
California that's really closeto this. And what they would use
it for is for pacemakers andother devices like insulin pumps
and stuff where they got to haveconstant energy but not a lot of
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energy. But they could use thesesmall nucular diamond waste
chips, I guess that's what youwant to call it to generate
power so people don't have to gothrough multiple surgeries but
I've done a little digging intothat. And one of the main
problems that I see is is thatthese devices would have to be
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100% recyclable like you wouldhave to basically like they need
to put some rules around thatyou have to recycle this not
just you know recycle it if youwant to because you would be
throwing the nuclear materialand the trash can. And also to I
was thinking about this is thatwhat if you could have a cell
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phone that never needed a chargeEugene port on it at all,
because it could run off of thistype of material. So, you know,
we can't say that we won't everhave a car that runs off of some
other type of material. But justto bring this all back together,
I know gas is through the roof,I know that everybody's looking
for ways to save money. Butthese water cars and converting
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an internal combustion engine torun off a hydrogen. That's just
not it. So don't, don't go putthis on your 2022 Mercedes.
Which brings me to anotherpoint, you know, if this
technology was available, and itgave, you know, an upper hand on
fuel economy and stuff, you knowthat the the companies would be
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doing this, I mean, the carmanufacturers, whoever has the
best miles per gallon is the onethat people are going to go for.
I mean, that's why you're seeingpeople go to electric cars now.
Because if you do the economicson electric car, if you're in
shorter, short distances, thenit is more efficient to run it
off of electric. But I may do awhole nother podcast just on the
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electric car, because there's alot of nuances around those
being a longtime electricvehicle driver. I can tell you
all the good and all the badwith it, but All right, well,
we're at the bottom of the halfhour. So I know this was kind of
technical. And we took a deepdive in there, but it's
something that I want to getahead of and make sure that
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everybody is well aware that youdon't want to be strapping these
hydrogen producing gashesbubbling up under the hood of
your car, because there's justway too much that could go
wrong. All right. Well, asalways, thanks for tuning in.
And you can reach me viaFacebook page, Twitter, or you
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can send me an email. And withthat, I'll see you next week.
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