Episode 25 - I feel the need for Internet Speed!

In this episode your Field Commander Global Bob (Brian Varner) talks about the history of Internet delivery mediums and the speed at which they deliver.  He talks about speed as in latency or round trip time and speed with regulars to bandwidth and why you may not need that super charged 1gig or 2 gig connection.

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Episode Transcript

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All right. All right, here we go. You are tuned in to

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the global Bob Show. toGlobalbob show, we are the
crossroads of technology andpolitics. This is episode number
25. Let's kick it. So we'recoming to you today from the
beautiful Richard Cook broadcastfacility. Really enjoy. Whenever

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I get to record inside yourradio room here, sometimes my
schedule does not allow forthat. So I have to record in
other areas. But today, thisepisode we are back in the radio
room here that I'm named aftermy grandfather, Richard Cook,
who was a pioneer and radio inthis area. A little bit of

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nostalgia, whenever I record, Ilike to thank everybody that can
pin us to tune in each and everyweek. Like, I really think
everybody that spreads the wordand also calls me throughout the
week to try to get a scoop onwhat the next podcast is going
to be about or give me ideasabout the next podcast. So I

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really appreciate theinteraction between myself and
the audience. And that's why Iput these together. It's
actually why I started puttingthese together. You know, a lot
of people that know me know thatI've been in the business for a
while and cybersecurity mostly.
Now I'm pretty much focused onapplication security, which is,
you know, still cybersecurity,but it's securing the

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applications. So if you want toget a hold of Globalbob here, be
one of those people thatinteract, you can reach us on
the Facebook page and Globalbobshow out on Facebook, of course
on Twitter, at Globalbob show.

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We also have a Gmail account,and you can send me an email
[e-mail]. And ofcourse, you can visit a couple
of different websites. One isglobalbob.org, which is kind of
like my online resume presents.
Everything Globalbob is onthere. And the actual show is

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Globalbob show.com. So lots ofways to get a hold of your
fellow field commander Globalbobhere. And if I'm not cruising
the old cyber Caddy around withthe top drop, you can give me a
call on my cell phone. And if Ihear it rang, I'll pick it up.

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All right, so this is episodenumber 25. This is an important
episode, because they say that alot of podcasts don't even make
it to Episode 25. Actually, alot of them fade out well before
that. So we're pretty happyaccording to Buzzsprout This is

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a milestone. So episode 25. Herewe go. So whenever I was putting
this together, you know, usuallyI get things locked in for the
show. Probably the Friday beforethe show, try to record on
either Sundays or Mondays so Ican get this show out. A good

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time. On Tuesday, matter offact, I can tell you the best
time to get the show out isbefore my mom goes to the gym.
Now if I don't get this show,uploaded and published, where it
hits her, her phone and all theiPod feeds by the time she goes

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to the gym, well, I'm getting aphone call. And it's usually
something well, you must had abusy week didn't see any podcast
uploaded. So anyway, sometimeswe do get busy. And we've had to
skip weeks here either due toCOVID or are busy schedule. So
on this one here, I feel theneed the Need for Speed cache I

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was waiting a while to to movethat quote and to something in
the podcast. And if you haven'tbeen living under a rock, you
know that that is one of themost famous movie quotes.
Probably a movie famous moviequote of all time, but but that
one's from Top Gun, the need forspeed. And that's what we're

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going to talk about. This weekwe're going to talk about the
internet and how its speeds havebeen ever increasing. And how
a lot of times that people aretalking about other internet,
they talk about speed. But speedis really only relevant to what

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you're trying to use it for. Sowe're going to unpack all of
this. And hopefully at the endof this podcast, you'll
understand what is actuallyenter net speed. So it may not
be exactly what you think it is.
So stay tuned. Now we've coveredthe history of internet in
previous podcast and where theInternet came from and how it

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came to be. But we were onlytalking more or less about the
technologies that deliver theinternet, like the World Wide
Web, and file sharing and cloudresources and other services
like that. But what I want totalk about specifically during
this episode is internet speed.

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So let's just go ahead and throwa stake in the ground and talk a
little bit about 1989. Becauseto me, 1989 1990 is when Tim
Berners Lee invented the WorldWide Web. Now, before the World
Wide Web was invented, we'vetalked about there were tons of

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services that were out there,but they were kind of government
centric, and university centric,business centric. But when Tim
invented the World Wide Web,this was going to be something
that revolutionized the world bygetting consumers involved. So
that was in 1989 1990 1993. Wasthink I was about in 10th grade,

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then, yeah, had to be about 10thgrade, and all of the internet
traffic in the world for onemonth. How much traffic Do you
think that was in 1993? Well, ifyou said nine gigs, you're
right, in 1993, you take all theinternet traffic for one month,

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and that only equaled nine gigs.
So we're not transferring a lotof data. But then again, things
were slower back then. We didn'thave broadband, of which we'll
talk about the actual definitionof broadband. And not a lot of
people had internet at theirhouse. Now, thankfully, my
parents have always beensupportive of all of my

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endeavors, most of my endeavors,and at my house around that
time, actually, I know, beforethat time, I ran what they call
it a bulletin board system. Andso my cousin and I, he had his
bulletin board system, I had mybulletin board system. And if I
would have known what I've knownnow, I would have registered the

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domain matrix. Because waybefore the movie came out, I
actually ran Cyper matrix BBs.
That was the name of my BBs. AndI never knew they're going to
make a blockbuster hit calledthe matrix. So of course, you
know, I didn't know anythingabout registering domain names

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and, and stuff. So yeah, that'sone that I missed. But I ran
cyber matrix BBs my cousin heran.
Forgot. Oh, Comptons warlords.
That's right. So have you evermet this guy? He's definitely
not a competent warlord. But Iremember that he ran their
website competence warlords, butwhere I'm going with this is, is
that during these times, we rana little piece of intermediate

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software called World War four,or WWE IV. And with WWI V or
World War for one BBs could callanother BBs and pass message
traffic back and forth. And sothis you know, before this if I
wanted to send a message, say toGlobalbob and I knew that

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Globalbob was on the cybermatrix BBs are another big one
in my area was called crownjewel. Another one was
Shatterstar. I mean, I can thinkof a lot of these BBs 's that
are still stuck in my brain thatare occupying space to this day,
but you would have to log intothat particular BBs and send a
message to that person. And thenwhen that person finally decided

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to log in, then they couldretrieve their message. Well,
with WWI V. You can log into aBBS say, a crown jewel BBs and
send a message to global Bob.
And each BBs would call theother and replicate that
message. And so if I was amember of WWI V and, and my

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website was connected to andsomeone sent me a message, you
can log into other people'sbulletin board systems to get
that message. Now, it worked. Itwas kind of cool. And but very
archaic, but what it allowed meto do is make the case of why I
needed two to three phone linesat my house at that time. And so
basically what would happen isis that my BBs would use one

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phone line dedicated fordistributing messages. The other
one would be used for people tocall in, so would their modem.
So that was kind of cool, youknow, but if you think about how
archaic that system was, thatmeans every BBs stored a copy of
every other BBs as message. Sothat's back in the early 90s.

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And I like to thank my parents,as always, for being supportive
of my endeavors and being my mychief sponsor there, because I
went off to make a career out ofit. But back to the 1993, there
was only nine gigs of trafficthat went across the internet.
And then a couple years later,1994, it only jumps to 150 gigs.

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Now knowing what I know aboutISPs, I mean, you can get a via
sat link or some of the cellularlinks, and they allow 150 to 200
gigs of traffic per month. Soyou can take one user now and
they can transfer, no problem,all of the traffic that the

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internet had back in 1995. So atthis time, you know, 1995, we
got to talk about there wasn't alot of traffic. But then again,
we didn't have a medium totransfer traffic, a lot of
traffic really. So we had these56k modems. And that's what the
BBS ran off of was 56k modems.
And that was the hot modem tohave now leading up to the 56k

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modem. You know, you had the 28Eight modem which was 28.8 baud.
And then before that you had the14 for the 9600. And then the
2400 baud modem, the 1200 baudmodem and I think the the

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slowest one I ever had, it wasone that still had the cups on
it that you put it on the phoneto send and receive. And you had
to press the button when someonecalled to actually connect them
up. So I'd have this computerrunning in my room and someone
would go to call in on jump overthe desk and hit the button
before before they disconnectedbecause it was taken too long.

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And I think that was a 600 baudmodem. So point six, so we
jumped, you know, from point sixto 14 to 28, you know, all the
way up to 56 kilobits per secondon the modem, which is mere,
slow, I don't even know what youcould even get over 56k line

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these days. But at that time,that was the hot modem to have.
And you could actually listen tothese modems connect with each
other, and know what speed theyconnect that just by listening
to the sound that it made. Andyou hear this in movies to think
you got mail. There's a coupletimes you could hear the modem.

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And I'm like, Yeah, okay, I knowwhat that connected that. So we
didn't have, you know, thehardware or the pipes or
channels to really transfer alot of data, you know, 56k
it was I mean, at that time, itwas fast. But like I said, you
know, speed is relevant. I mean,it was fast at that time, but

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very slow during these times.
But something else too is duringthis time is that, you know, we
weren't doing file transfers ofa very large size, you wouldn't
downloading movies yet. Youweren't downloading songs. So a
lot of the information that wasgoing back and forth, if it was
chat, it was you know, textbase, which doesn't require a
lot of bandwidth. Or you werebringing down some images from

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the World Wide Web or cruisingsome sites. So all of that is
kind of, you know, not verybandwidth intensive. But that
was really kind of the fastestthing that the homes had
available was a 56k modem. Andif you lived in town and had
good clean phone lines, it wouldconnect at 56k. Where I was at
at the time, well, where myparents still live at and you

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know, we're out in the country,but not anymore. They're not out
in the country. But out there,sometimes I could get a 56k
connection. And other times Icouldn't so you know your home
users really topped out at 56k.
Now, during this time, westarted getting into what they
call the ISDN line, which wasstill a copper telephone type

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technology. But with the ISDNline. It was a it was a
dedicated line you had to bewithin a certain distance of
where it originated from andthere's a lot of things around
it. And so it was veryexpensive. So a lot of your home
users did not have the ISDNline. I think at one time the

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company the telco companiestried to compete with cable
broadband when it came came outby lowering ISDN. But it just
never to me it never really tookoff at the house. But at the
place of business, it was it wasphenomenal. And the ISDN line
when it first came out, it wouldthey were 128k lines, right. So

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128 kilobits per second, whichis moving some traffic, you
know, at that time. So if youcompare the two, the 56k modem
to download a one gig file,right, so, if we were to go way
on back to the 90s, and fire upthe old 56k modem, I wanted to
download a one gig file, itwould take about 60 hours. I

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mean, that's a long time, 60hours for one gig file, back
then well, when ISDN came along,you know, anytime you can make
something twice as fast, then itdoesn't matter. It's twice as
fast, even though it's stillreally slow. And the ISDN line
at 128k, you could download aone gig file in a whopping 30
hours. So still not not fastcompared to today's standards.

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Now, my dad's office with mehanging around, I always tried
to convince him that he neededto get this latest technology
for his business, when really,it was good for his business.
But sometimes, I felt like hewould say, yeah, we'll get that
installed, just so I'd havesomething to play with and maybe

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keep me out of his hair. So wedid have ISD in their 128k. And
that was pretty neat. Sosomething that I like to mention
too, is during this time, whenyou would have your 56k modems
and your ISDN lines, you didn'tnecessarily have like an always
on connection, it was always onif you stay dialed in, but even

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with ISDN being a special line,I remember and it may be
different in some people'sareas, but you will get the ISDN
line say from a company calledGT, which you know, now they've
all merged and split and allthat good stuff. But you would
get it from the phone company.
But that would just give you theconnectivity for that 128k to a
system, then you had to go offand get an Internet service

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provider on top of that, whichis totally different the way it
works today.
So you would order your ISDNline from the phone company,
they would come out. They woulddo the installation, but when
you hooked your computer to it,you had to go find internet
service. And so my internetservice was at home at that time

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was through prodigy and itreally wasn't internet then I
would probably say you know bythe time I got to using a
company called Delphi that waskind of real internet but
anyways prodigy so I would useprodigy AOL Delphi, whichever
mainly Delphi, at the house, andthen at my dad's office, we

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would use Earthlink. And so theT one line you would connect up
and then you would call intoEarthlink and you'd be good to
go. And that would get yourtraffic from your office or his
office at the time up into theinternet. Now. This was kind of
cool because you know as thespeeds increased at the business

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level, the houses kind of stayedthe same so I could go to his
office and download a one gigfile in two hours. So getting it
down a little bit but you knowthat's like I say when speeds
relevant, you know you would goto his office and it'd be one
gigabit file and two hours or todownload that same file at the
house it would take me 60 hours.
Now, the T one line was reallycool. And we found that off that

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T one line we were pulling about1.5 Meg's per second best case,
that's why we could download aone gigabyte file so fast. But
if you wanted a T three linethat was quite a bit of a jump
so I never talked him intogetting a T three line which
would have gave me 45 megabitsper second so I can download

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that one gig file and a whopping4.5 minutes so we never did make
the jump to the T three line butwhat we did do was get a T one
line another one installed so athis office at one time we had
two T one lines and we wouldbond them together to give us
that three mags per second andthat was a better bang for your

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buck at the time. And that'swhat we used and that was my
first once we got those T onelines that was really my first
four way or exploration of ipv4as we know it today. And we've
talked about in previous podcastyour IP v four is your or unique

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IP address out on the internet,you probably have one assigned
to your house and then you knowyou can listen to previous
podcast understand. But that waswhere I got my first block of IP
addresses and they gave mewhat's called a Class C. And
this is offered just a standardT one installation, they say,
Hey, how many IPS D Nina? Well,I don't know, I got 10 computers

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here. So give me 10. They said,Well, how about we give you a
Class C, another thing had Iknown what I know now would have
kept that class C. Because as weknow, ipv4 addresses are drying
up. And there is a huge market.
And a lot of money to be had ifyou still have IP blocks that
are portable, so I should haveshould have kept those IP

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blocks. But now, that was reallythe last of the copper
technology, what I call coppertwisted pair type technology,
from the phone company, whateveryou want to call it, you know
came in on the phone line. Nowin the 2000s to 2010 broadband
really starts to explode. Soduring this time I was in

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college. And we quickly replacedthe two T one lines that were
really expensive at my dad'soffice with a cable modem, which
was kind of cool. That was allduring the 2000 2010. And then
there was a company, I thinkthey're still around, but they
were called Road Runner. Andthey were using the existing

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cable lines to bring cablemodems to the home. So I would
say pretty quickly my parentshouse we got rid of the phone
lines, while the phone lines forinternet and replaced them with
cable modems. Now at this time,the FCC defined broadband as a
minimum download speed of fourmegabits per second. Now that is

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moving some traffic and also toit was cheap, right. So we'd
have to bond to T one lines tomake a three megabit per second
circuit. But you would never getthree Meg's off of that on a
single stream, right because itwas bonded. So the capacity was
good for three mags. And we'regoing to talk more about
capacity here in a bit. But youcan only get 1.5 mags on a

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single strain. But with thesecable modems, you could
actually, you know, connect atfour megabits per second. So
during this whole explosion ofbroadband and all of these cable
modems being deployed, that theysay that in 2010, two thirds of
adults have access to broadband.

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Now, when they say access, thatjust means exactly what it says
access, this doesn't mean atyour house, this doesn't mean
necessarily at your business, itjust means that two thirds of
adults can, you know, getregular access to broadband,
which was defined at fourmegabits per second. Now, we've
talked about some of the, youknow, a few of the changes that

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really made the internet startto explode. And we talked about
the first one being the WorldWide Web. And then we talked
about, you know, getting fasterspeeds. But here comes on the
scene about this time was the WiFi router. And I think to me,
the Wi Fi router has driveninternet speeds ever faster. For

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one reason. Now, if you thinkabout it, back in the day, you
would most houses would have acomputer a desktop computer set
up in you know a common area orlibrary or, or in the dining
room and everybody shared thatcomputer. And if you got a cable
modem at your house, or if youhad a regular modem in your

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computer, you would hook it upto it. And it was kind of a
shared resource. Now, sure, ifmom and dad were in business, or
if you were fortunate enoughlike me to have parents that
would buy me any new technologythat came out, you would have a
laptop, but even then if you hada phone line at your house, you

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had to share that phone line. Sowhen the cable modem came in got
paired with a Wi Fi router, nowyou could have that one line
come into your house andessentially be split amongst
multiple devices. So dad couldhave a Wi Fi card in his laptop,
and the kids could be on theinternet doing their schoolwork

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and everybody use that line.
So with that, you know youstarted seeing that there were
multiple laptops and multipledesktops in a house because of
the Wi Fi router. And when theWi Fi router first came out, the
only option you had was 2.4 Thatwas it. There was no such thing

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as the five gig router anddefinitely not none of the new
ones that are coming out. Withthe Wi Fi six, so you had your
2.4 router, which allowed you toessentially split that line. And
it was pretty cool. I rememberhaving my first one there at the
house. And what was neat was isthat no one else had them. So

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the range on them wereridiculously long, I don't know,
maybe at that time, they had thepower really cranked up or
something. But I remember Icould get on my laptop and be
way at the back of the property.
So anyways, the Wi Fi router, tome is what's really, you know,
drove the Internet to have allthese multiple devices connected
to it, and then of course, ledthe path for IoT. But in 2015,

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the FCC now says the broadbandis at a whopping 25 megabits per
second,which is, to me even in today's
standards, I mean, 25 Meg's, youcan do a lot with that, I would
say, pretty much go out on thelimb and say that that's really
about all someone would need ifthey're needing it for strictly

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business purposes. And we'lltalk a little bit about that.
But in 2016, the averageAmerican speed of broadband is
at 33 megabits per second. Soyou know, when you see these
commercials come on TV that saysyou know, gigabit speed and two
gigabit speed, I mean, in 2016,we really, you know, the average

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length, 33 megabits per second,that's point three, three, of
100. So that would be point 033of a gig. And now, you know,
companies want to try to sellyou the one gig and two gig
speed, and you may not needthat, and we're fixing to dive
into that. So anyways, in 2017,Comcast and others start their

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quote, unquote, gig speedconnection, when the average
household is only at 33 megabitsper second. So, and a lot of
this is coming because of cloudservices. So think about when
you would go to work before,you'd have an email server at
your work. And if the internetwent out, you could still email,

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you know, folks at work. Butnow, I would say most businesses
have their email stored up intothe cloud or cloud services. And
then of course, we got othercloud services that started to
layer on to that, say, GoogleDocs, Microsoft, SharePoint, all
of those. And so when you're notkeeping all that traffic

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locally, and you're having toconnect into those cloud
services, then that's puttingmore pressure on the internet to
have faster speeds. And so thatwas around 2017, when, you know,
cloud services really started tobe adopted. So from 2017 to
2018, you know, speeds jumpedfrom 100 to 200 megabits per

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second, on average. And if yougo back to what we're talking
about that one gig file, so in2017, we're able to download
that one gig file, and less thanfour minutes. And to me, that's,
that's really good. So fourminutes to 200. Meg's, of
course, you know, two minutes at100 megabits per second. And

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then we all know where we're at2022. You know, broadband is
available to about 90% ofAmericans with an average speed
of about 74 megabits per second.
Now, that is, I'm sure thatstatistic would get pushed up a
little further here in the nextpolling, but, you know, that's,

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that's still a lot of traffic.
So what are we talking about allof the speed? When you see the
advertisements on television,and they offer a one gig or two
gigabit per second speed? Youknow, do you really need that?
And when I hear folks say, hey,Commander, Bob, I'm going to
upgrade my package to the onegig package, and I'm going to

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pay X amount of dollars permonth. I asked, I said, What do
you really need a one gigpackage? And of course, at their
house, they say, Oh, yes, I dozoom and, and teams meetings,
and I do a lot of videoconferencing. So I need to have
fast internet. And instantly,what I tell them is, well, what

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do you call in fast? Like,what's your measure of fast? And
nine times out of 10? They'llsay, I actually, I believe 10
times out of 10. Unless there'ssomeone from industry, they'll
say, Well, I want the fastestdownload speed. Okay. Now you
realize that you're only as fastas the connection on the other

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end. So if I have a one gigabitper second line, and I'm
streaming Netflix, to my TV, I'mnot gonna it doesn't matter.
Netflix is not sending downtraffic that could get to that
one gigabit per second. It is astring means service. So when
you have a streaming service,it's only going to come down as

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fast as what it takes to deliverthat traffic. So if that's your
measure of speed, and for easycalculations, let's say a
Netflix stream, uses 10 megabitsper second, and you have a one
gig line, then great, you canhave approximately 100

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televisions at your housewatching Netflix at the same
time. Now, do you need 100televisions at your house
watching Netflix at the sametime? Because if not, then you
would be just as good off of a10 Meg, a bit per second line.
So when you think of that typespeed, think about the download

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speed, the upload speed as thevolume of traffic that can be
handled, it's not going to makeNetflix, you know, load any
faster, I mean, maybe a fractionof a second. And once it's
streaming, then it's buffering,right? And so if there's any
disruptions and things, thenit's fine. Now, if I talk to my

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fellow gamers out there, youknow who you are, y'all know my
position on games, I just don'tplay him. I don't know why. I've
tried to get into games a coupleof times, about the best game I
got into was Grand Theft Auto, Ibought an X box just for Grand
Theft Auto, and maybe GuitarHero or GarageBand, whatever one

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it is, but I'm not really biginto gaming. But if you ask
those folks, what what do youwant in an internet connection?
They'll tell you, I want a fastinternet connection, like, Okay,
what's fast to you? I want lowlatency. Now, that may be a
term, we haven't talked too muchabout low latency. And I know
that you all have probablycalled your ISP before

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complaining about your internetspeed. And they say, Well, let
us log in and run somediagnostics, or they have you
run the diagnostics. And theyhave you ping something. And a
lot of times they say, Hey, Ping8.8 dot 8.8, or ping quad,
eight, and 8.8 dot 8.8 isGoogle's DNS servers. And when

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you see the ping reply, right,and it says 15 milliseconds, 30
milliseconds, 100 milliseconds,when you're reading those
numbers off, that is thelatency. That is the how long it
takes for a packet to go fromyour computer. And nine times

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out of 10, people are doing thison a Wi Fi connection, which you
should never do speed test orping test on a Wi Fi connection.
Because that is usually wherethe bottleneck with speed. And
latency is is actually at yourWi Fi router. But anyway, so
you're pinging from there, thatis the time it takes for that

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packet to go from your computer,through your Wi Fi router
through your ISP router up toyour ISP, and then it makes its
way through all the variousnetworks and finally ends up at
Google. Google says I got it andit responds back. And when it
gets back to your place, you seethat milliseconds out that is

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the round trip time. So if youhave internet that is 50
milliseconds from Google, or oneof the Google servers, then that
means it is traveling the speedof light minus a little bit
because it's going through amedium, but for all intents and
purposes, the packet istraveling at the speed of light.

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And that is the round trip time.
So between you and Google, ittakes 50 milliseconds for that
packet to get to Google andGoogle to respond back. Now I
know that's kind of a lot butthink, but what I want to leave
you with this is is that speedis irrelevant. So my gamers,
they would rather coerce gamers,I mean, they want as much speed

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as low latency as possible. Butfor them, if they had to choose
one or the other, they would,they would classify their speed
as the speed of the packet toget to that server and back. So
they want the low latency, notnecessarily the high bandwidth.
And I'll give you an example ofa couple of different
technologies that have variousspeeds where one isn't

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necessarily comparable to theother. So you can have a high
speed high latency network. Ifyou mess around with some of the
satellite technologies now notElon, which we talked about his
being lower in orbit, but yourtraditional satellite
technologies you can get about100 megabits per second across

(34:50):
that. Well, that 100 megabitsper second will also have
789 100 milliseconds of latencyso slow lay under a second for
your laptop to go up through theWi Fi router up to the satellite
22,000 miles out in spaceturnaround come down, make his

(35:10):
way to Google servers. Now forsome of my folks that don't
understand, I mean, 900milliseconds of latency is an
eternity. I know it's less thana second to make that travel.
But that isn't an eternity. ButI can download it 100. Meg's per
socket, so I can have 10 TVscoming across that satellite
link on a good day, streamingNetflix. But if I were to switch

(35:34):
toa different connection, that had
lower bandwidth, right, so maybeit's only a 30 meg line, but it
also has low latency, well, Icould stream three TVs at the
same time. But without lowlatency the kids could play if I
had kids, kids could game allday long. And really enjoy that
low latency. So you can have lowbandwidth, low latency, high

(35:58):
bandwidth, high latency, and ofcourse, the combination of all
in between. Now, what I want totell you is is that you got all
this up in your head, you'relike, Alright, Globalbob, you've
talked me out of it, I don'tneed the one gig or the two gig
connection. But this is what Ido, What connection do I need?

(36:18):
So I would say if you're zoom,if you're you know, working from
home, those kinds of realbusiness purposes of the
internet. I mean, I think nowone of the cheapest connections
you can get from your cablemodem folks or your TV provider
is, I think around 100. Meg'sper second. And really, that's

(36:41):
good. So, you know, a family ofthree, you know, chances are,
you're only going to bestreaming three streams at the
same time. And you'll eat up 30,Meg's of your internet and have
plenty to spare. But if you'reif you're doing a lot of video
conferencing, not necessarilythe bandwidth, which I've had

(37:02):
this call before, I'm doing alot of video conferencing and I
need the fastest internetpossible know what you need is
the lowest latency internetpossible. Because we've all been
on those zoom calls where theperson their mouths moving, but
the audio is choppy, and they'rekind of like a robot type. Well,
those are networks that couldhave some latency in there. Now,

(37:24):
the latency a lot of times canbe coming from Wi Fi
interference, because that'swhat everybody has, I don't know
too many people that actuallyhave things hard connected. I
think I have my TV in the livingroom hard connected. But so a
lot of times when you're callingyour ISP and you're complaining,
hey, my Zoom calls are cuttingout and my stuffs buffering?

(37:44):
Well, if you think about the,where these calls are coming
from a lot of the neighborhoods,I mean, they're just saturated,
everybody has the 2.4 and thefive gig routers, and
everybody's kind of talking allover everybody else, because
there's a finite amount offrequency that's available. And

(38:05):
so when you want to do yourbusiness purposes, I would say I
know it's kind of going back alittle bit, but you know, run a
hard line connection to yourtelevision, because when your
television streaming over Wi Fi,then that could really bring the
whole network down. Becausewithout getting in too much of

(38:26):
the technicalities of it, whenyou have a Wi Fi router, it can
only transmit to one device at atime. And so if you got multiple
devices that are on there, theydo do a good job of what they do
is the time multiplexing, right,which as each device is going to
transmit at a certain time, butBut even then, a lot of devices

(38:48):
can can cause issues. So foryour business setup, just go
ahead and run a hardwire to youroffice and plugged directly in.
And then try to do what you canto get that latency down. And
like I said, you can ping Googleand, and others and kind of you
know, adjust your setup and seeif maybe you need to move closer

(39:10):
but but for the videoconferencing the real time
stuff, you want to have that lowlatency. Because what do you
care about bandwidth, right? Imean, if you're downloading a
one gig file, as we gave theanalogy, and it takes three
minutes instead of threeseconds, well, what does it
matter? And we see a lot of thistoo with cell phones, right? I
mean, the 5g Right, fifthgeneration is all the rage. We

(39:33):
did a podcast about that. Andthey you know, talk about three
400. Meg's right to your cellphone, but to me, I don't care,
right. I'm going to take andsnap a picture or I'm going to
send an email and we'll put thecell phone in my pocket. If it
takes five minutes to get therefive seconds, I don't care. So
what I want to leave you withhere is always a little bit of

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history of the internet. And inthis case history of the
delivery of the internet it andalso let you realize that you
don't need to have necessarilyone gig to gig connection you
can get by with far less, pleasetelecom companies don't come
after me. But just look at it bythe numbers and really what

(40:14):
you're looking for is that lowlatency, internet. So with that,
I will say, See you next week.
I appreciate everybody drivealong with me. And of course, if
you have any questions, commentsor concerns, please reach out
via the methods that we talkedabout, or give me a shout. Cell

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phones. Hope everybody has awonderful week and I will see
you all here next.
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