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Speaker 2 (00:09):
all right, all right,
here we go.
It is that time of the season,I guess we should say, for the
global bob show show.
Global Bob show.
We are the crossroads oftechnology and politics.
Now, if y'all notice, wheneverI opened the show, I said it's
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that time of the season for theglobal Bob show to all my avid
listeners out there, from backin 2022, you know that was when
the last show was.
That was episode 25.
And then life happens, right,and so, uh, given the uh changes
and everything that's beengoing on, I had to uh
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temporarily suspend the globalBob show for a few years.
But hey, we're back by populardemand.
So here we go.
All right, so the last show wasSeptember 20th 2022.
And, yeah, so we have a newaddition to the Global Bob show.
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Since then, I'll introduce youto Hello Shelly, is that how you
say?
Your handle, I'm Global Bob,you're Hello.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Shelley.
Yeah, hello, shelley, that's me.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
That's nice.
So when people call into theGlobal Bob show, do they say
hello, hello Shelley, or is itjust a hello Shelley?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Oh, it could be both
Hello, hello Shelley or just
hello Shelley it could be bothHello, hello Shelly or just
hello Shelly.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
All right, so we got
to get a few things straight
first.
Okay, this is my show, not thehello Shelly show.
But uh, I feel like I need togive you a rank.
You know, I mean the the themeof the show.
I kind of had that I was yourfield commander and I think now
I'm like up to a general orsomething like that so what?
What rank would you like tocome in as as the uh first
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co-host of the global bob show?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I'll just be like
cadet commander cadet, that's
pretty good yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I like the uh.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I like taking, I like
being the cadet, okay, so, so
I'm the green guy here.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
The green guy or girl
.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Girl Person.
Okay, person Could be personthis time, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, so that's kind
of cool because you're in the
Global Bob boot camp of whichyou've been in the Global Bob
boot camp.
So what do you do?
Where do you come from?
What's your name, age, locationIs that how we used to do it?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
back in the day.
Asl.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
ASL.
I like it, so tell us about.
Hello, shelly.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
All right.
So, born and raised in Florida,lived here my whole life.
Haven't moved anywhere else.
I am a front-end developer.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Front-end developer.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
That's pretty cool.
Why don't you tell the folkswhat a front-end developer
actually does?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
So a front-end
developer develops the front end
of applications develops thefront end of applications.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Okay, so mom gets out
her phone and she goes to
wwwwherearethevarnerboyscom totrack us down.
Yes, what part of that wouldyou be involved with with that
website if you're a front-enddeveloper?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
so everything that
the user sees in front of them,
so like that page, basicallyeverything that they're seeing
there, is what we develop so thefront-end developer, uh, the
buttons and yeah logins andstuff like that, that's really
cool.
That's really cool.
It.
That's really cool, it's veryfun.
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Okay, and rewarding.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Okay, so that's what
you do during the day, but what
do?
You do when you clock out of,and who do you work for?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
A company that
develops software for routers
coupled with AI.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Wow, that seems very
oversimplified.
I'm assuming I'moversimplifying this, correct?
Yes, of that fun stuff, uh, the.
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What your job is is to simplifythe visualizations that the
user is seeing and then, whenthey want to do something, it's
just a click of the button.
Is that kind of um?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
in a simplified way.
Yes, okay yeah, there's a lotthat goes to it, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
so I mean, this ai
revolution that we're in is kind
of nuts.
I mean, when the Global BobShow went off the air, you know,
back in 2022, it was juststarting to you know, ai was
there, but I felt like it wasbeing used by highly technical
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folks.
So, as a front end developer,what do you use AI for, like
daily?
I guess a lot of folks use AIand I'll give you a good story
here my dad.
He will claim to be like themaster of AI, right, and he'll
get his phone out and he willask chat GPT, because he thinks
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that's the only AI and we knowthat there's a lot more other AI
products out there but he'llsay chat GPT, what is the length
of the golden gate bridge?
And and and he'll get somethingback.
He's like so y'all use AI.
I'm like dad.
No, you're using like Google.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
It's like a Google
thing, right.
And so what I like to ask folks, when they, you know, really
know AI, is what do they use itfor in their day to day job
roles?
So what do you use as a frontend developer, now that we know
what a front end developer?
Is what does a front enddeveloper?
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How do you use AI for your job?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
So, basically, it
helps us speed up our coding
process.
So, instead of looking for aspecific function, let's say
we're trying to figure out howto write a function, and instead
of just typing it all out, itwill help us bring a whole
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function together that we canimplement into the front end.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Got it.
And so for my non-softwaredeveloper engineer folks out
there, when you're developingsoftware, functions is how you
break your code up.
And so what?
Shelly, hello.
Shelly is Hello, all right.
Every time I say hello, shellyyou.
Shelly is Hello, all right,every time I say hello, shelly
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you got to say hello back, no,okay.
So functions is how you organizespecific tasks inside your code
.
So what you're describing is,instead of having to do all of
this rudimentary work, AI helpsyou develop those out quicker,
Right, Right Are you?
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Are you afraid that AI is goingto uh eliminate your job?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
No.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Why, why is?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
that.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I mean, if if AI is
writing it, then why can't AI
just write it?
I mean, ai doesn't show up, uh,hungover.
Ai doesn't show up hungover Notthat Shelly shows up here.
Hungover by the way.
Hello Shelly, hello.
So you're not afraid of that.
I mean because AI can justwrite it all day long, right,
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all night long.
So why is AI not going to takeHello Shelly's job?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Because I strongly
believe that someone still has
to be behind the keyboard to askthose questions.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, I agree with
that somewhat.
You know, involved withsoftware development is actually
describing to folks like youand other people how I want
something done right, and to me,I think AI is going to need
human interaction, and part ofthe problem is is that with AI,
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you have to develop out theseprompts right, what?
And if you can't describe it toa human, then how can you
describe it better in textformat?
But hey, there we go.
We're looking to get us a soundboard, right?
And?
And instead of taking a shot ora drink every time a key word
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or definition said that we needto explain, maybe we'll have
some kind of sound.
So we learned what a front-enddeveloper is, we learned how
some AI can help with afront-end developer and now we
learned a prompt right.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I said prompt.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
So now I'm going to
quiz you.
Okay, what is a prompt exactly?
And you got to explain it to,not to me, but explain prompting
to your mom.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Okay, so AI prompting
.
Ai prompting is basically I'mtrying to think of the best way
to describe it, but it's notlike hey, hey, please give me a
pink background.
I'm just gonna use somethingbasic, okay, uh, ai is gonna
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reply back and say, okay, here'sa pink background, but it could
have clouds in it.
I mean, they ai will come upwith anything, but it does have
a pink background.
So with these prompts, youreally have to break it down to
exactly like, really describe.
Like hey, I would like abackground that is four by six
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size, with blue clouds that havea gradient to them and a ocean
with waves and a dolphin comingout of the wave.
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Are you tripping right now?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
No, but I mean, geez,
we just talked about a pink
background with dolphins andwaves jumping out of an ocean.
But no, what, what?
What uh hello, shelly hello isdescribing is exactly what
prompting is right.
My dad's got one and onlyprompt.
He asked it a question, itresponds back and and that's it.
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But what michelle is uh, shell,sorry is describing are prompts
that you have to feed into theAI.
Now what she was describing wasa picture's so many AIs coming
out, llms and all kinds of stuff.
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You know, I upload it and Iwould ask for legal advice on
the document.
Right, is it written in favorof the tenant, or is it written
in favor of the landlord, or isit written in favor of the
landlord?
And AI come back and say I'mnot a lawyer, I do not give
legal advice and all that fundisclaimer crap that they put in
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there.
But if I generate a nice promptand tell it exactly what I'm
wanting to know about thisdocument, then that's called
prompt engineering.
And so I, in the case of thedocument, I would say I know
you're not a lawyer.
I am the tenant in thisdocument.
I want to know what my tenantrights are.
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I would also like to know howcan I get out of this contract
early.
I would also like to addfavorable legal language in
there as the tenant, to give merights to terminate this
document if it's not there.
And then, you know, I basicallywith prompt engineering you're,
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you're kind of setting up apersona right Like who is the AI
supposed to act as Right, and Ithink that's a very important
thing.
Uh, I glad, by the way and.
I don't mean to crack onanybody that's only using AI to
ask the questions and get backsimple answers, but I like to
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explain to folks that there's somuch more that AI can do Hold
on, hold on.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Let me step in here.
Don't let Global Bob fool you.
He knows a lot about AI.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Allegedly.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You were at a chamber
event speaking about AI.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
That's correct.
Yeah, I was at a chamber eventI think it was just last week
sometime which, by the way, wasphenomenal.
We decided to put together afour-part series.
I didn't decide to put ittogether, the Chamber did, and I
was so graciously invited to bea part of the series, and the
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first one we did was like an AIQ&A Is that what you'd call it?
Yeah, yeah, it was great.
There was a lot of folks there.
I think it started like 9.30 ona Tuesday or Wednesday, whatever
day it was, and that's 9.30 amEastern Standard Time.
Yeah, and I was reallyimpressed by the questions that
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they were asking.
I think it ran for like an hourand a half, which was great.
I thought that I was going towalk in and within five or six
minutes we were going to have tokind of prod the crowd there,
but, man, the questions thatwere coming in were just
phenomenal, and part of thereason why we were doing this
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series is that we want toeducate people on AI and how to
use AI in the workplace, justhow you use AI in the workplace.
But you're a front-end developerworking for a company that
develops software for routersthat's coupled with AI, right,
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so we expect you to, of course,use AI in all of your business
dealings and practices and stuffand, of course, I've told you
how I use AI a lot of times onthe legal front.
But AI there's so much more thatcan be used for in every
workplace and we had folks therefrom a paving company, we had
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folks there from a mental healthcompany there or mental health
nonprofit organization, and sothey're interested in using AI.
I mean, every swath of industryI felt like was represented
there and there were some goodquestions that came up.
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Some of the ones I kind of feltlike I was that clown at the
fair and they're lobbing somesoftballs at me.
It actually came up not only atthat event, but another
conversation I was having aboutAI is what about all the energy
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that AI uses?
And if you guys remember theBitcoin mining craze and it's
still going on Bitcoin mining itneeded these GPUs, right, right
, and can you tell us what is aGPU?
There's?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
another term.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Ding, ding, ding.
Can you tell us what?
What is a GPU?
There's another term.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Ding, ding, ding ding
.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
All right.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
What's a GPU?
A processing unit or graphicalprocessing unit?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Right and they were
mostly used for like games and
stuff, yeah, for gaming.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Right, and so so like
the bigger the better, Faster
the faster.
Yeah, the better the graphicsof the game would be.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Right.
So you know, when you playvideo games, those things get
very hot.
Well, they also use graphicscards for Bitcoin mining.
They use them for AI and we'renot going to get into all the
details, but basically it's usedfor the vectorization and
things like that.
Well, those things getextremely hot and they use a lot
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of power.
And a couple questions came upis yeah, but aren't you worried
about the power consumption ofall of these massive AI data
centers and stuff?
And call it snarky or not, butwhen I get asked that question,
I immediately talk about well,the Bitcoin market's doing
pretty good, right, lots ofbillionaires have been made off
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of that, and now they have allthese other altcoins that are
being used.
And I said so if I'm going toput electricity into a computer
to do things, do I want it tomine a crypto token?
That's only value is the energythat it wasted to be mined and
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speculation.
Or would you like to put thatinto an AI engine?
The same graphics card and wecan go find a cure for cancer?
And that usually kind of turnsthe tide of the conversation
where oh, okay, I didn't.
I didn't realize that and I cantell you that, um, I would be
all for using it for ai.
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Now here's a uh little plug.
I think I did mention uh in onepodcast about bitcoin.
I talked about it and stuff.
So if y'all want to uh intothat one, you can just go to
globalbobshowcom, look throughthe episode list and you can see
that or listen to that show.
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But I'm not a huge fan ofBitcoin.
I like the idea of it.
Simply state I say it's a, it'sa lottery system with a Ponzi
scheme and uh, that's, that'sjust my thoughts.
So, but yeah, so I mean, if wecan use all this stuff for the
greater good, uh, I would ratherspend my electricity on that.
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Uh, we do have another uh series, not another series, but a
continuation of the series Uh,and we're actually going to
teach prompting.
So if anybody it's in thecentral Florida area or if you
would like to fly down here I'mnot going to pay for you to fly
down here, but if you would liketo come join us and see a real
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positive impact to the communityof uh education around AI, then
, uh, reach out.
Uh global Bob show at gmailcomand we'll make sure to give you
those dates and times.
All right, all right.
Here we are at the bottom ofthe half hour.
That means the show is almostover.
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Today's music was uh some musicthat uh hello shelly found that
is uh russian folk music.
I guess I told her to find somemusic that was in the public
domain, which means you can useit all right.
So, uh, shelly will join us onthe show from time to time as a
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co-host.
Shelly, is this your firstpodcast?
Yes, my dear.
So here we are at the RichardLowell Clark Broadcast Facility,
behind the silver microphonefor me and the black microphone
for you, and we can go out andtalk to the world.
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It's just amazing technology.
We'll probably talk about thattoo, you know, in later shows,
because the fact that everybodyhas these cell phones in their
pockets and can podcast andstream live, it's a really
amazing world.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It is.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
All right.
Well, so if y'all want to keepShelly on the show, can someone
please send me at least onecomment to Global Bob Show?
You can do that atglobalbobshow at gmailcom, or we
do have a new feature where youcan go to wwwglobalbobshowcom
and send us a text message.
Right, if you go to the show,you should be able to click on
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an episode or somewhere on thepage and send us a text message
and see if we want to keep HelloShelly on the Global Bob Show.
We're always looking for peoplethat like to come on the show,
so if there's anything that youthink may be of interest to the
listeners, then reach out to us.
Also, love to have you as aco-host also.
All right, everybody, untilnext time next week.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Everybody be safe and
we'll see you on the highways
and byways of cyberspace.