July 10, 2025 • 32 mins
Weather manipulation has long been a fascinating intersection of science, politics, and controversy. From the ambitious Project Storm Fury of the 1960s, which attempted to weaken hurricanes by seeding them with silver iodide, to modern cloud seeding operations across the American West, humans have persistently sought ways to control the skies above.
We dive deep into the science behind these weather modification technologies, exploring how Project Storm Fury spent $250 million before researchers concluded that their hurricane weakening attempts couldn't be distinguished from natural storm fluctuations. The concept was tantalizing – imagine reducing a Category 5 hurricane to a Category 3 – but nature proved more complex than anticipated.
Amidst our technical exploration, we pause to honor Coast Guard Petty Officer Scott Ruskan, whose heroic actions during the recent Camp Mystic flooding tragedy in Texas saved over 165 lives. His selfless courage reminds us that while we may attempt to control weather, we must always be prepared for its devastating potential.
Lightning rod networks offer another glimpse into weather manipulation, using tethered rockets to safely discharge lightning away from populated areas. Meanwhile, cloud seeding – practiced since 1947 in Australia and now common across Idaho, Texas, and California – continues despite studies showing its effectiveness ranges from zero to just 20% increased precipitation.
The ethics of weather modification loom large throughout our discussion. If we extract rain in California, what happens to Nevada's water supply? Are we wise to interfere with natural systems when our understanding remains limited? As hurricane season approaches, perhaps the most practical takeaway isn't about controlling weather but being prepared for it. Don't wait until storms are named – by then, it's already too late to gather supplies and make evacuation plans.
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
All right, all right, here we go.
It is that time of the week forthe Global Bob Show.
The Global Bob Show.
We are the crossroad oftechnology and politics.
I'm back again this week withmy co-host, hello Shelly.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
All right, so this is what number three for you.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
And you have a few more.
Two more, I think, is what wesaid until you get your official
co-host badge.
Yay.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, all right.
Do we get jackets too?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, we're going to get Letterman jackets.
That'd be really cool, right?
And then every time we talkabout a topic, maybe we'll put
another one on there, like alittle lightning bolt for this
one, since we want to talk aboutweather, and so maybe, yeah,
maybe, get your lightning bolt.
So each genre that we talkabout, or each subject, maybe
you'll get one.
And then that way, whenever Iget my other co-host because I'm
(01:09):
very confident, the show isjust going to blow up and it's
going to be syndicated worldwide, probably on Fox News, xm Radio
and all of that you never know.
Yeah, so you can say that youwere the first co-host of the
Global Bop Show, that you werethe first co-host of the Global
Bop Show.
Well, as I alluded to, this weekwe're going to talk about a
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topic that we've had on thedocket, that we wanted to do,
and it's around weather andweather manipulation.
Yeah, weather manipulation, andI know that you're a weather
bug yourself, and we thoughtthat this would be a great time
to do this show.
We already had this planned out, naturally, you and I, a few
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weeks ago, that we were going totalk about it, because we're
here in Polk County, florida,right here at the crossroads of
the state of Florida Actually, alot of people don't realize
this, but the geodesic center ofFlorida is only a couple miles
away from us and that's reallyneat.
So when we are here in centralFlorida, one of the things that
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are very keen to us ishurricanes, and so we were going
to do this show about weathermanipulation.
Just talk about hurricanes andstuff.
But unfortunately, the tragedythat happened in West Central
Texas at the camp there- CampMystic.
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Yeah, camp Mystic, that happened, I believe it was last week,
and so we were kind of on thefence.
Do we do the show about theweather or do we not?
But you know, as they say, theshow must go on and the event
that happened is very, verytragic, very sad.
More sad about that is thatpeople are trying to politicize
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this already.
And it doesn't matter what sideof the aisle that you're on,
there are folks that will useanything as a political
lightning rod.
No pun intended, but we didtalk to you about scams last
week on episode 27.
And this is something that youshould really think of, because
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all of us are wanting to donateto the folks out in West central
Texas, and it's not just campmystic, I mean that whole area,
the Guadalupe river that flooded, and you're already seeing
scammers.
Like we predicted and talkedabout the last show, there's
already folks that are settingup fake sites and stuff.
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So we really really want toencourage everybody that wants
to donate and we are in no wayaffiliated with the Red Cross
and other very reputableorganizations and make sure that
if you do donate to the tragedythat happened out in West
Central Texas or any tragedy,just make sure that you're
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sending your donations to theRed Cross and other
organizations that are reputable.
I think the last I heard isthat the death toll is up to 96.
That's so sad, and there's stillapproximately 161 people
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missing, but man just tragic.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
What is one of the most tragic things that you've
heard so far about that?
So I heard that they found twoyoung girls from Camp Mystic
deceased and they were stillholding hands.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
They found them, yeah , and I believe they were
holding the rosary beads as well.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Now, for those that aren't familiar with Camp Mystic
, it's a non-denominationalChristian camp for girls and to
me, I'm just amazed of just howmany people have been affected
by it.
A lot of celebrities andpoliticians and prominent
figures have been sending theirkids there for years and years
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and years.
And so one thing that you dolearn you're a native Floridian,
been through hurricanes, ohyeah Is that these tragedies
they do not discriminate andeverybody is pretty much in it
for themselves, that it doesn'tmatter rich, poor, creed, skin
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color, that when these thingsstrike, everybody is just as
vulnerable as the next Right.
But I will tell you thatsomething that is coming out of
this, just like with a lot ofthese tragedies, that there's
always these unsung heroes andeven heroes that are out in the
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spotlight, and one such hero outthere that I really think needs
to be decorated.
This person needs to be broughtin front of Congress that they
do like at the State of theUnion and really shine a light
on him, and he probably doesn'twant the limelight and that is
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Petty Officer Scott Ruskinlimelight.
And that is a petty officer,scott Ruskin.
Petty officer Scott Ruskin is arescue swimmer for the U S
coast guard and if you look atyeah, if you look at where camp
mystic is located in thatGuadalupe river, then you can
see that it's not near an ocean.
You know, close by an ocean,but these coast guard swimmers,
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they aren't just out in theocean.
He came in on a helicopter oneof the Coast Guard helicopters
and selfishly put his life outthere.
He probably wasn't eventhinking about his own life and
he is credited with saving over165 people.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Wow.
Now is that total or is thatfrom a specific area like Camp
Mystic?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
From what I understand, it was totally
around Camp Mystic area.
Wow, and some of the reportsthat I saw, that I guess it's
practice, common practice, whenyou're a Coast Guard swimmer to
ride up with the basket and staywith the folks.
But he sent the people up thebasket and then he stayed behind
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.
So, you know he stayed behindand he got the girls and other
people to higher ground.
Some of the folks actually wentto the second story.
You know, they left their campand they went up to the second
story of their dwelling and theriver continued to rise.
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I think it was like 27 feet.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
So quick too.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, very quickly, like in matter of like, less
than an hour, so in the middleof the night, and what they said
they did was is that they sangsongs and they held hands, just
like the two that were foundtragically holding hands 15
miles away.
Those two, those two girls,were 15 miles away and you know,
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thank God, that petty officer,that Petty Officer Scott Ruskin,
was there to help facilitatethat.
Now, having a brother who was acaptain in the fire rescue here
in Polk County, I can tell youthat these heroes are people too
.
Even though they go out andthey do all these heroic deeds
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and acts day in and day out,they're still people too.
So everybody, I feel, needs tothank Scott Ruskin, thank the
United States Coast Guard, andjust know that these service
members, they operate all over.
Whether you're in the army,they can be operating in the
ocean.
If you're a Coast Guard, youcan be operating on land.
They can be operating in theocean.
If you're a Coast Guard, youcan be operating on land.
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Those guys go through a heck ofa program.
I mean my dad, actually, whowas in the Coast Guard, and he's
a hero himself, just likeeverybody else in the military.
But my dad's job in the CoastGuard was to be a ship inspector
during the Cold War.
So his job at the Port of Tampawas to keep us safe from
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nuclear material being broughtin.
So he would get down into thebowels of the ship at all hours
of the night with a Geigercounter.
So so I just want to show anddisplay to everybody that you
know these folks are heroes.
And my dad says that the rescueswimmers are like the Navy
seals.
Uh, they go through a 22 weekprogram and these heroes are
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just amazing people.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Wow yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
So now we will go on to what we wanted to talk about
today, and this is really cooltopic, and it is where
technology and politics meet.
Really, technology andcontroversies meet as well, and
some of these that we're goingto talk about today they're
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highly controversial andeverything that we tell you is
based off of some research thatwe did and just you know from
our past of looking throughweather, because you know we're
all a bunch of weather nerdshere and especially if you're
not a weather nerd, you areduring hurricane season, that's
true.
In Florida right now is a greatpublic service announcement.
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When they name a storm out inthe Atlantic or the Gulf, that
means that you're too lategetting prepared.
So if you don't get anythingout of this broadcast today,
just please make sure thatyou're prepared and that you
have your minimum supplies thatyou need and know where to
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evacuate, just like in WestCentral Texas.
That's something that'sprobably going to come out of.
This is evacuation drills, justlike in Florida, when we all
know people that's been heavilyaffected by hurricanes.
I know one person in particularthat the water got in their
house so high that they weresitting on their washer or dryer
and they had to swim out andeverything, and they were in a
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community.
So, yes, please, everybody get,get ready.
So, without further ado, let'stalk about what was the first
one you said you wanted to talkabout.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I think project storm theory project storm theory.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
This one's one that my dad actually talked to me
about whenever I was little, andI don't know how we got on the
subject, but as soon as westarted talking about putting
together the podcast, I knewthat we needed to talk about
Project Storm Fury, and what mydad said was back before I was
born, the US was involved withweather manipulation and Fidel
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Castro, who was the dictator ofCuba, actually blamed the United
States for steering a hurricaneinto Cuba.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, I guess if you're a dictator you can just
say whatever, yeah, and ifsomebody doesn't like it, well
then you just off with theirhead.
But Project Storm Fury,basically what it was, it
started around 1962.
And it was a joint governmentprogram that attempted to weaken
hurricanes by flying aircraftinto storms and seeding them.
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And this is how a lot of thisworks, right?
The weather manipulation thatwe're talking about is that they
seed or they put stuff in thehurricane.
It could be anything from dryice to salt to silver oxide, and
we'll talk more about cloudseeding but basically they would
put the silver iodide insidethe hurricane and what would
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happen was that the super coldwater would freeze around it and
it would disrupt the structureand potentially reduce the
hurricane by like 30 percent.
Wow, so you know, for easy math,if you got a hundred mile an
hour wind and you can knock itdown to say 70 miles an hour,
well, that's, that's a bigdifference, right?
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Because we know, just withtornadoes and hurricanes, it
seems like every mile an hourfaster does more destruction.
You know more and more, moredestruction.
But but basically it's a way toartificially take the eye wall
and with the silver oxide, yeah,it would weaken it, and we've
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all seen those eye form.
What is it called?
Eye wall replacement?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yes, is that it?
Yeah, we've all seen that it'slike when it weakens and then it
strengthens again.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah.
It goes through that process,yeah, and we see it all the time
Like, hey, the eye wall isweakening, and people that are
non-Floridians are like, hey,look, it's weakening Us
Floridians are like, okay, it'sgetting ready for the big show
at that point.
But also too, when that eyewall weakens, the hurricane
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spreads out.
Remember when Hurricane?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Charlie came through.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
It wasn't a very big hurricane, but the winds were so
impactful it was like a buzzsaw.
So to me, whenever I look atthem, the bigger the hurricane
kind of the weaker it is.
Don't take my word for it.
I'm not a meteorologist, I justpretend one From our experience
.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, from our experience.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
So what what happened is is that the silver oxide in
this case when they startexperimenting, they were seeing
about 20% weaknesses throughthat, but they just didn't go
out and do it to every hurricane, and that's something I want to
stress, even though thisweather manipulation is highly
controversial.
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There were a lot of parametersthat it had to meet because they
didn't want bad things tohappen, and one of those had to
be 10% chance of approachinginhabited land, so if it was
coming right from Florida, theywouldn't go seed it because they
didn't know what would happen.
It had to be a well-formed eyeand there was a lot of stuff
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that made it a good target thatthose parameters weren't active
very long, and so what theywould do is that this was a
joint operation, and so the USAir Force would fly in these
AWACS planes, the WC-120s andthe WB-47s, and they would fly
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over and then drop them.
They did this on a coupledifferent hurricanes, one of
which was in 1969, which that'sprobably the one that Castro is
talking about.
I don't know.
I don't know what the stormtrack was, but it was Hurricane
Debbie in 1969, and it met allthe criteria.
So with Project Storm Fury theysent you know they've done a
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little bit of testing beforethat, but that was really the
one that they did the firstseeding on, and they claimed
that that one had about a 20%reduction, which is still a lot
right, they did a lot of thistrying to wait for the right
time, but, as you know, thehurricane season is kind of
finite, and so they only had afew hurricanes they can do this
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in, but it was later determinedthat most hurricanes didn't
contain enough super cold waterfor cloud seeding to be
effective.
Also, researchers found thatunseeded hurricanes often
undergo the same structuralchanges that cloud seeding did.
Right, and that's what youtalked about, that eyewall
replacement.
Also, too, there's a lot ofcontroversy that came around
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this, and so they wanted to moveit out to the Pacific ocean,
where it's bigger, and do itwith typhoons and stuff.
But basically in 1971, the Navystopped doing this, and after
they blew through $250 millionmillion dollars.
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That's a lot, yeah, that's alot even today.
But you can imagine what $250million in 1971 would be today.
That's just a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
It sounds like they just didn't see any reason to
continue doing the project.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, so that was us and our attempt to steer
hurricanes, which is really cool, really controversial, and we
don't do that anymore.
Now out west we've heard ofsome of the misinformation about
the cloud seeding and possiblythe storm over at Camp Mystic
was one of the ones that theyhad seeded.
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But right now I've done somelight research and I don't see
anything that would suggest thatthe one out in west it wasn't a
hurricane, the big storm outthere that it needed any cloud
seeding.
Nor would they do it.
I promise we're going to talkabout cloud seeding, but what
other weather manipulation doyou want to talk?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
about Lightning rod networks, lightning rod networks
, Lightning rod networks.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
This is actually really cool Now.
You have worked for an ISP.
Before that was in the usedradios and microwaves.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Is that it yes?
Microwave radios.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Right.
And so you know, during thesummer months, those are the
busy months.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Oh yeah, and why is that?
Lots of storms, especially herein Central Florida, and a lot
of lightning hits those radiosyeah.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
And I guess we probably should look this up.
Maybe one of my listeners canlook this up and send it to us.
But I've always heard thatFlorida is the lightning capital
of the world, but I thinkthere's a place down in Brazil
or in the Amazon or somethinglike that, that technically has
the lightning capital of theworld, and that's a really neat
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one too not to get off on a sidesubject here, but that one
there's methane gas that comesup from a lake and so when this
lightning strikes it makes thesebig booms.
But wow, I digress.
So the lightning rod network.
I believe that was being doneup in Ocala, probably probably
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in coordination with one of theuniversities.
But but the thought is is thatwe know that lightning opposites
attract.
So you have positive electronsthat build up and then, once it
builds up so much, it actuallymakes a spark down to the ground
and there is ground-to-cloudlightning, along with ground to
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cloud, cloud to ground lightning, so it goes both ways, even
cloud to cloud.
But what this tries to do isthey launch little rockets with
a tether on it, a little pieceof say like piano wire, and so
what they try to do is is thatas the lightning cloud moves
over, if it's in a safe area,say like in the middle of a
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pasture, they can launch one ofthese rockets up and the
discharge hits the piano wireand it goes to ground that way.
So that's one way that they domanipulate.
But you can imagine if this wasgoing to be done at scale.
Now we need a bunch of rockets,we need a bunch of rockets
going up, and these are littlerockets.
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I used to play around withthese whenever I was a kid, but
that's pretty cool and you couldimagine that if you had these
all around the city as the stormcloud moved over.
You could shoot a rocket up sothat cloud is discharged before
it moves over and it hits thetowers.
But that's the reason whylightning hits towers and trees
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is because the path to ground isfrom the top of the structure
and so it can hit that and makea better, better path to ground
instead of just hitting out inan open field.
I'll tell you a quick littlestory.
I had an uncle that was in thetower business and his house was
at the base of one of histowers.
Maybe a hundred yards, couplehundred yards from the base of
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the tower and he would actuallylet us kids swim in the pool.
I mean, he was very eccentric,very eccentric man.
And he would let us kids swimin the pool and my aunt would
come out and say my God, it'slightning, get them out of the
pool.
And he would explain thescience behind it and would
actually say that we were okayto swim in the pool because the
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chances of lightning hitting thepool was next to nothing,
because it would hit the towerbefore it hit the pool.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Now.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I know you don't have children, but if and when would
you let your kids swim in apool?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
at the base of it.
No.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Wow, I didn't even get the whole thing out.
She's like Nope, shut it down,so so that's.
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I mean you hear like people out in the ocean and
stuff and they get hit bylightning, and I mean the
lightning came, I mean far awaylike 20 miles.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, and that's what a lot of a lot of folks don't
understand that the, the, thelightning can jump, you know, 20
miles out and my dad used totake us fishing all the time out
in the ocean.
He had a fishing boat and itwas made out of aluminum and I
didn't realize, but you wereactually safer in that aluminum
boat because of the electrolysison the aluminum which you would
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be in a fiberglass boat.
So I don't quite understand alot of the science where I can
talk about it enough, but justknow that that's a common
knowledge to maritime folks thatyou're actually safer in that
aluminum boat or that metal boatthan what you are in.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, speaking of lightning, though, I've seen
some of the reports here inFlorida throughout the years
where fishing fishermen would beon the shore fishing and their
rod would get hit by lightning,because that just a few feet
closer to the reports here inFlorida throughout the years
where fishermen would be on theshore fishing and their rod
would get hit by lightningbecause just a few feet closer
to the cloud was enough for itto hit the rod.
I guess, technically that wouldbe a lightning rod.
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That's fun.
So what other ones would youlike to talk about?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I heard about urban heat island mitigation.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
What is urban heat island mitigation?
What is urban heat island?
That's what I haven't heard of.
Do you have any examples of it?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
or like disney would be a good example the mouse
house yeah, okay, because theythey have so much vegetation
around like the parks, rightthat it's.
It's like, hmm, does it everrain?
Right?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
So if you think about it.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
So, basically what it is, it's large urban planning
projects and surfacemodifications can alter local
temperature and precipitationpatterns.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, if I think about that, it's probably around
that it's warmer, and so withthat being warmer, you get these
convection currents and I cantell you, being a pilot myself,
you're flying along inside of anairplane at low altitudes,
right.
I mean, this is a single engineplane and it would get quite
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bumpy during the summer monthsand yeah, kind of like when you
get close to cities and stufflike that.
But I never remember that inthe pilot training.
But that does make sense andmaybe that's those can
convections, with the mitigatingof the heat that makes it to
where it doesn't rain, causedon't people say that it doesn't
rain that much at dizzy.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah, they say that a lot.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
They say, like the storm goes around the park.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So I don't know if that's a urban, would you say
that was called?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Urban heat island mitigation.
So I don't know if that's whatit is or if just the mouse house
has like a ray gun or somethinglike that.
Yeah, some kind of dome thatthey just Did something.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, now isn't there something around the?
What's that radar technologythat they were using to heat up
clouds?
There was something that wewere reading about that Was it
like HAARP or something.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, I think it was.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Oh yeah, it was.
It was the HAARP, and that'swhere they're blasting
microwaves into clouds to heatthem up and and get them to do
stuff.
But they, you know there's alot of stuff around heart.
We should actually do a wholepodcast on on heart because of
all.
I mean, that's got a lot ofcontroversy around it.
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So it really seems like withthe cloud manipulation whether
it's with the fog or or if it'swith harp or any of them it's
it's like they're putting thingsin there, either hot or cold,
or to get things attracted to,like salt or even dry ice that
we've heard of.
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But I guess, without furtherado, we should get to actually
talking about the cloud seeding.
So what is it that you want toknow about cloud seeding?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So I'm curious, like what it's all about.
It's been very popular in thenews as of recently.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
A lot of people are talking about it on social
medias and blaming some of theseyou know disasters and weather
patterns on cloud seeding yeah,well, we talked a little bit
about the cloud seeding, back uhproject storm fury a few
minutes ago and basically whatthe cloud seeding is that you
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know they can do use dry ice orthey can use salt, or they can
use this uh silver iodide andwhat it is.
If you look at the molecularstructure of salt, they're very
close to water and so the cloudseeding, the whole idea, is that
they drop it into a cloud,either by airplane or some of
the ones I've seen now, if theyknow the weather pattern is
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going over a mountain they canput these flares up on the
mountain and, when theconditions are perfectly right,
that it seeds into the cloud thesilver iodide or whatever it is
.
But one of the key takeaways Iwant folks to understand is is
that it's not like they throw itinto the air and here comes the
rain.
I think there's a song herecomes the rain.
(26:56):
Yeah okay well, I'm glad thatwe're podcasters and not singers
not singers, because we wouldprobably be more broke than what
we already are, but so, as itcomes over, it takes 45 minutes
to an hour and then they monitorit and you know things have to
be exactly right.
But they've been doing this forover 60 years it's a long time
and in some places they've saidthat it's increased the amount
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of rainfall by about 10%.
So you know, being a southernboy here makes you wonder if the
juice is worth the squeeze onthat.
But there are companies I thinkNWWX is a company or something
like that but there are peoplethat have commercial companies
that do cloud seeding.
And there's some controversythat if you get the rain to
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start falling earlier overCalifornia, how does that affect
Nevada?
But yes, there are very activecloud seeding operations going
on in Idaho and the rest.
There's actually ones in Texaslike we talked about with Camp
Mystic, and it's been going onsince about 1997 in Texas and
there's other ones in Californiaaround the Santa Ana River
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watershed.
It's a program out there wherethey have about four or five
mountain regions and they haveabout 15 to 20 ground seeding
locations that come over.
But, like I said, everythinghas to be extremely perfect for
that to happen.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
But it's not a new technology.
Yeah, See.
I didn't really know what itwas until you know seeing it in
the news and social media andpeople talking about it.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, but it's been going on since 1947 out in
Australia.
Believe it or not, there'scloud seeding going on there,
but you know.
So what's the effectiveness ofit?
Some of the studies say thatit's from zero, which that sucks
if you're a cloud seedingcompany?
Yeah, absolutely, and you'reinvested in it and it's zero,
but it can be up to 20% and youcan see that 20% more rainfall
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can be detrimental.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Right, exactly, but it's all about… Floods and all
of that.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, and it's all about getting the rain to drop
where it needs to drop at, butthey also do it say like in the
Reno area, and they do somewinter cloud seeding.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And they claim that they do enough seeding out there
in the Reno watershed area.
I guess that it's enough forabout 40,000 homes a year, wow
yeah.
So with all these technologiesso right now I think that
they're proven their hypothesisright that can we put stuff in
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the weather to manipulate it,and we've seen during this
podcast, or heard during thispodcast, they can do it via
lightning rods to attractlightning.
We learned about manipulatinghurricanes and we've also heard
about cloud seeding, and while Ithink it's something that can
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be done that, is it really worthit?
I mean, what are your thoughtson cloud seeding, whether
manipulation should.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I mean from the studies, from what they're
saying, it's a very lowpercentage if it does anything.
So I just don't see any valueto it.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah it's not like it's enough right.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
If they could send something up and say it's a even
60%, actually 51% would bebetter than this like zero to 20
, zero to 20.
So that means, if it's halfthat, zero to 10%, I just don't
think it's worth it.
I don't I think at some point,just like we talk about in a lot
of our shows, some things weshould probably just leave up to
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God whether it's my God orsomebody else's God or somebody
else's supreme being that Ithink we should probably just
leave the weather manipulationalone, all right?
Well, we're at the bottom ofthe half hour and you've been
riding along with the Global BobShow with my co-host, hello
Shelly.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And we hope that we've given you some information
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Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yes, text us a message.
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Speaker 1 (31:47):
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We'll put the logo on there,both for the Global Bob
Broadcast Network and also theGlobal Bob Show.
With that, we will seeeverybody next week.
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They will hear us all next weekif they want to.
But if you like what you hearcomments, suggestions are always
welcome and with that,everybody, stay safe, get your
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hurricane preps going and wewill talk to you next week.
Thank you.
All right, all right, here we go.
It is that time of the week forthe Global Bob Show.
The Global Bob Show.
We are the crossroad oftechnology and politics.
I'm back again this week withmy co-host, hello Shelly.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
All right, so this is what number three for you.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
And you have a few more.
Two more, I think, is what wesaid until you get your official
co-host badge.
Yay.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, all right.
Do we get jackets too?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, we're going to get Letterman jackets.
That'd be really cool, right?
And then every time we talkabout a topic, maybe we'll put
another one on there, like alittle lightning bolt for this
one, since we want to talk aboutweather, and so maybe, yeah,
maybe, get your lightning bolt.
So each genre that we talkabout, or each subject, maybe
you'll get one.
And then that way, whenever Iget my other co-host because I'm
(01:09):
very confident, the show isjust going to blow up and it's
going to be syndicated worldwide, probably on Fox News, xm Radio
and all of that you never know.
Yeah, so you can say that youwere the first co-host of the
Global Bop Show, that you werethe first co-host of the Global
Bop Show.
Well, as I alluded to, this weekwe're going to talk about a
(01:30):
topic that we've had on thedocket, that we wanted to do,
and it's around weather andweather manipulation.
Yeah, weather manipulation, andI know that you're a weather
bug yourself, and we thoughtthat this would be a great time
to do this show.
We already had this planned out, naturally, you and I, a few
(01:52):
weeks ago, that we were going totalk about it, because we're
here in Polk County, florida,right here at the crossroads of
the state of Florida Actually, alot of people don't realize
this, but the geodesic center ofFlorida is only a couple miles
away from us and that's reallyneat.
So when we are here in centralFlorida, one of the things that
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are very keen to us ishurricanes, and so we were going
to do this show about weathermanipulation.
Just talk about hurricanes andstuff.
But unfortunately, the tragedythat happened in West Central
Texas at the camp there- CampMystic.
(02:40):
Yeah, camp Mystic, that happened, I believe it was last week,
and so we were kind of on thefence.
Do we do the show about theweather or do we not?
But you know, as they say, theshow must go on and the event
that happened is very, verytragic, very sad.
More sad about that is thatpeople are trying to politicize
(03:04):
this already.
And it doesn't matter what sideof the aisle that you're on,
there are folks that will useanything as a political
lightning rod.
No pun intended, but we didtalk to you about scams last
week on episode 27.
And this is something that youshould really think of, because
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all of us are wanting to donateto the folks out in West central
Texas, and it's not just campmystic, I mean that whole area,
the Guadalupe river that flooded, and you're already seeing
scammers.
Like we predicted and talkedabout the last show, there's
already folks that are settingup fake sites and stuff.
(03:47):
So we really really want toencourage everybody that wants
to donate and we are in no wayaffiliated with the Red Cross
and other very reputableorganizations and make sure that
if you do donate to the tragedythat happened out in West
Central Texas or any tragedy,just make sure that you're
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sending your donations to theRed Cross and other
organizations that are reputable.
I think the last I heard isthat the death toll is up to 96.
That's so sad, and there's stillapproximately 161 people
(04:29):
missing, but man just tragic.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
What is one of the most tragic things that you've
heard so far about that?
So I heard that they found twoyoung girls from Camp Mystic
deceased and they were stillholding hands.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
They found them, yeah , and I believe they were
holding the rosary beads as well.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Now, for those that aren't familiar with Camp Mystic
, it's a non-denominationalChristian camp for girls and to
me, I'm just amazed of just howmany people have been affected
by it.
A lot of celebrities andpoliticians and prominent
figures have been sending theirkids there for years and years
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and years.
And so one thing that you dolearn you're a native Floridian,
been through hurricanes, ohyeah Is that these tragedies
they do not discriminate andeverybody is pretty much in it
for themselves, that it doesn'tmatter rich, poor, creed, skin
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color, that when these thingsstrike, everybody is just as
vulnerable as the next Right.
But I will tell you thatsomething that is coming out of
this, just like with a lot ofthese tragedies, that there's
always these unsung heroes andeven heroes that are out in the
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spotlight, and one such hero outthere that I really think needs
to be decorated.
This person needs to be broughtin front of Congress that they
do like at the State of theUnion and really shine a light
on him, and he probably doesn'twant the limelight and that is
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Petty Officer Scott Ruskinlimelight.
And that is a petty officer,scott Ruskin.
Petty officer Scott Ruskin is arescue swimmer for the U S
coast guard and if you look atyeah, if you look at where camp
mystic is located in thatGuadalupe river, then you can
see that it's not near an ocean.
You know, close by an ocean,but these coast guard swimmers,
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they aren't just out in theocean.
He came in on a helicopter oneof the Coast Guard helicopters
and selfishly put his life outthere.
He probably wasn't eventhinking about his own life and
he is credited with saving over165 people.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Wow.
Now is that total or is thatfrom a specific area like Camp
Mystic?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
From what I understand, it was totally
around Camp Mystic area.
Wow, and some of the reportsthat I saw, that I guess it's
practice, common practice, whenyou're a Coast Guard swimmer to
ride up with the basket and staywith the folks.
But he sent the people up thebasket and then he stayed behind
(07:31):
.
So, you know he stayed behindand he got the girls and other
people to higher ground.
Some of the folks actually wentto the second story.
You know, they left their campand they went up to the second
story of their dwelling and theriver continued to rise.
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I think it was like 27 feet.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
So quick too.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, very quickly, like in matter of like, less
than an hour, so in the middleof the night, and what they said
they did was is that they sangsongs and they held hands, just
like the two that were foundtragically holding hands 15
miles away.
Those two, those two girls,were 15 miles away and you know,
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thank God, that petty officer,that Petty Officer Scott Ruskin,
was there to help facilitatethat.
Now, having a brother who was acaptain in the fire rescue here
in Polk County, I can tell youthat these heroes are people too
.
Even though they go out andthey do all these heroic deeds
(08:43):
and acts day in and day out,they're still people too.
So everybody, I feel, needs tothank Scott Ruskin, thank the
United States Coast Guard, andjust know that these service
members, they operate all over.
Whether you're in the army,they can be operating in the
ocean.
If you're a Coast Guard, youcan be operating on land.
They can be operating in theocean.
If you're a Coast Guard, youcan be operating on land.
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Those guys go through a heck ofa program.
I mean my dad, actually, whowas in the Coast Guard, and he's
a hero himself, just likeeverybody else in the military.
But my dad's job in the CoastGuard was to be a ship inspector
during the Cold War.
So his job at the Port of Tampawas to keep us safe from
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nuclear material being broughtin.
So he would get down into thebowels of the ship at all hours
of the night with a Geigercounter.
So so I just want to show anddisplay to everybody that you
know these folks are heroes.
And my dad says that the rescueswimmers are like the Navy
seals.
Uh, they go through a 22 weekprogram and these heroes are
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just amazing people.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Wow yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
So now we will go on to what we wanted to talk about
today, and this is really cooltopic, and it is where
technology and politics meet.
Really, technology andcontroversies meet as well, and
some of these that we're goingto talk about today they're
(10:14):
highly controversial andeverything that we tell you is
based off of some research thatwe did and just you know from
our past of looking throughweather, because you know we're
all a bunch of weather nerdshere and especially if you're
not a weather nerd, you areduring hurricane season, that's
true.
In Florida right now is a greatpublic service announcement.
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When they name a storm out inthe Atlantic or the Gulf, that
means that you're too lategetting prepared.
So if you don't get anythingout of this broadcast today,
just please make sure thatyou're prepared and that you
have your minimum supplies thatyou need and know where to
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evacuate, just like in WestCentral Texas.
That's something that'sprobably going to come out of.
This is evacuation drills, justlike in Florida, when we all
know people that's been heavilyaffected by hurricanes.
I know one person in particularthat the water got in their
house so high that they weresitting on their washer or dryer
and they had to swim out andeverything, and they were in a
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community.
So, yes, please, everybody get,get ready.
So, without further ado, let'stalk about what was the first
one you said you wanted to talkabout.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I think project storm theory project storm theory.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
This one's one that my dad actually talked to me
about whenever I was little, andI don't know how we got on the
subject, but as soon as westarted talking about putting
together the podcast, I knewthat we needed to talk about
Project Storm Fury, and what mydad said was back before I was
born, the US was involved withweather manipulation and Fidel
(11:58):
Castro, who was the dictator ofCuba, actually blamed the United
States for steering a hurricaneinto Cuba.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, I guess if you're a dictator you can just
say whatever, yeah, and ifsomebody doesn't like it, well
then you just off with theirhead.
But Project Storm Fury,basically what it was, it
started around 1962.
And it was a joint governmentprogram that attempted to weaken
hurricanes by flying aircraftinto storms and seeding them.
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And this is how a lot of thisworks, right?
The weather manipulation thatwe're talking about is that they
seed or they put stuff in thehurricane.
It could be anything from dryice to salt to silver oxide, and
we'll talk more about cloudseeding but basically they would
put the silver iodide insidethe hurricane and what would
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happen was that the super coldwater would freeze around it and
it would disrupt the structureand potentially reduce the
hurricane by like 30 percent.
Wow, so you know, for easy math,if you got a hundred mile an
hour wind and you can knock itdown to say 70 miles an hour,
well, that's, that's a bigdifference, right?
(13:16):
Because we know, just withtornadoes and hurricanes, it
seems like every mile an hourfaster does more destruction.
You know more and more, moredestruction.
But but basically it's a way toartificially take the eye wall
and with the silver oxide, yeah,it would weaken it, and we've
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all seen those eye form.
What is it called?
Eye wall replacement?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yes, is that it?
Yeah, we've all seen that it'slike when it weakens and then it
strengthens again.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah.
It goes through that process,yeah, and we see it all the time
Like, hey, the eye wall isweakening, and people that are
non-Floridians are like, hey,look, it's weakening Us
Floridians are like, okay, it'sgetting ready for the big show
at that point.
But also too, when that eyewall weakens, the hurricane
(14:08):
spreads out.
Remember when Hurricane?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Charlie came through.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
It wasn't a very big hurricane, but the winds were so
impactful it was like a buzzsaw.
So to me, whenever I look atthem, the bigger the hurricane
kind of the weaker it is.
Don't take my word for it.
I'm not a meteorologist, I justpretend one From our experience
.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, from our experience.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
So what what happened is is that the silver oxide in
this case when they startexperimenting, they were seeing
about 20% weaknesses throughthat, but they just didn't go
out and do it to every hurricane, and that's something I want to
stress, even though thisweather manipulation is highly
controversial.
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There were a lot of parametersthat it had to meet because they
didn't want bad things tohappen, and one of those had to
be 10% chance of approachinginhabited land, so if it was
coming right from Florida, theywouldn't go seed it because they
didn't know what would happen.
It had to be a well-formed eyeand there was a lot of stuff
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that made it a good target thatthose parameters weren't active
very long, and so what theywould do is that this was a
joint operation, and so the USAir Force would fly in these
AWACS planes, the WC-120s andthe WB-47s, and they would fly
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over and then drop them.
They did this on a coupledifferent hurricanes, one of
which was in 1969, which that'sprobably the one that Castro is
talking about.
I don't know.
I don't know what the stormtrack was, but it was Hurricane
Debbie in 1969, and it met allthe criteria.
So with Project Storm Fury theysent you know they've done a
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little bit of testing beforethat, but that was really the
one that they did the firstseeding on, and they claimed
that that one had about a 20%reduction, which is still a lot
right, they did a lot of thistrying to wait for the right
time, but, as you know, thehurricane season is kind of
finite, and so they only had afew hurricanes they can do this
(16:15):
in, but it was later determinedthat most hurricanes didn't
contain enough super cold waterfor cloud seeding to be
effective.
Also, researchers found thatunseeded hurricanes often
undergo the same structuralchanges that cloud seeding did.
Right, and that's what youtalked about, that eyewall
replacement.
Also, too, there's a lot ofcontroversy that came around
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this, and so they wanted to moveit out to the Pacific ocean,
where it's bigger, and do itwith typhoons and stuff.
But basically in 1971, the Navystopped doing this, and after
they blew through $250 millionmillion dollars.
(17:00):
That's a lot, yeah, that's alot even today.
But you can imagine what $250million in 1971 would be today.
That's just a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
It sounds like they just didn't see any reason to
continue doing the project.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, so that was us and our attempt to steer
hurricanes, which is really cool, really controversial, and we
don't do that anymore.
Now out west we've heard ofsome of the misinformation about
the cloud seeding and possiblythe storm over at Camp Mystic
was one of the ones that theyhad seeded.
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But right now I've done somelight research and I don't see
anything that would suggest thatthe one out in west it wasn't a
hurricane, the big storm outthere that it needed any cloud
seeding.
Nor would they do it.
I promise we're going to talkabout cloud seeding, but what
other weather manipulation doyou want to talk?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
about Lightning rod networks, lightning rod networks
, Lightning rod networks.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
This is actually really cool Now.
You have worked for an ISP.
Before that was in the usedradios and microwaves.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Is that it yes?
Microwave radios.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Right.
And so you know, during thesummer months, those are the
busy months.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Oh yeah, and why is that?
Lots of storms, especially herein Central Florida, and a lot
of lightning hits those radiosyeah.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
And I guess we probably should look this up.
Maybe one of my listeners canlook this up and send it to us.
But I've always heard thatFlorida is the lightning capital
of the world, but I thinkthere's a place down in Brazil
or in the Amazon or somethinglike that, that technically has
the lightning capital of theworld, and that's a really neat
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one too not to get off on a sidesubject here, but that one
there's methane gas that comesup from a lake and so when this
lightning strikes it makes thesebig booms.
But wow, I digress.
So the lightning rod network.
I believe that was being doneup in Ocala, probably probably
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in coordination with one of theuniversities.
But but the thought is is thatwe know that lightning opposites
attract.
So you have positive electronsthat build up and then, once it
builds up so much, it actuallymakes a spark down to the ground
and there is ground-to-cloudlightning, along with ground to
(19:37):
cloud, cloud to ground lightning, so it goes both ways, even
cloud to cloud.
But what this tries to do isthey launch little rockets with
a tether on it, a little pieceof say like piano wire, and so
what they try to do is is thatas the lightning cloud moves
over, if it's in a safe area,say like in the middle of a
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pasture, they can launch one ofthese rockets up and the
discharge hits the piano wireand it goes to ground that way.
So that's one way that they domanipulate.
But you can imagine if this wasgoing to be done at scale.
Now we need a bunch of rockets,we need a bunch of rockets
going up, and these are littlerockets.
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I used to play around withthese whenever I was a kid, but
that's pretty cool and you couldimagine that if you had these
all around the city as the stormcloud moved over.
You could shoot a rocket up sothat cloud is discharged before
it moves over and it hits thetowers.
But that's the reason whylightning hits towers and trees
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is because the path to ground isfrom the top of the structure
and so it can hit that and makea better, better path to ground
instead of just hitting out inan open field.
I'll tell you a quick littlestory.
I had an uncle that was in thetower business and his house was
at the base of one of histowers.
Maybe a hundred yards, couplehundred yards from the base of
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the tower and he would actuallylet us kids swim in the pool.
I mean, he was very eccentric,very eccentric man.
And he would let us kids swimin the pool and my aunt would
come out and say my God, it'slightning, get them out of the
pool.
And he would explain thescience behind it and would
actually say that we were okayto swim in the pool because the
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chances of lightning hitting thepool was next to nothing,
because it would hit the towerbefore it hit the pool.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Now.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I know you don't have children, but if and when would
you let your kids swim in apool?
Speaker 1 (21:38):
at the base of it.
No.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Wow, I didn't even get the whole thing out.
She's like Nope, shut it down,so so that's.
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I mean you hear like people out in the ocean and
stuff and they get hit bylightning, and I mean the
lightning came, I mean far awaylike 20 miles.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, and that's what a lot of a lot of folks don't
understand that the, the, thelightning can jump, you know, 20
miles out and my dad used totake us fishing all the time out
in the ocean.
He had a fishing boat and itwas made out of aluminum and I
didn't realize, but you wereactually safer in that aluminum
boat because of the electrolysison the aluminum which you would
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be in a fiberglass boat.
So I don't quite understand alot of the science where I can
talk about it enough, but justknow that that's a common
knowledge to maritime folks thatyou're actually safer in that
aluminum boat or that metal boatthan what you are in.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, speaking of lightning, though, I've seen
some of the reports here inFlorida throughout the years
where fishing fishermen would beon the shore fishing and their
rod would get hit by lightning,because that just a few feet
closer to the reports here inFlorida throughout the years
where fishermen would be on theshore fishing and their rod
would get hit by lightningbecause just a few feet closer
to the cloud was enough for itto hit the rod.
I guess, technically that wouldbe a lightning rod.
(22:54):
That's fun.
So what other ones would youlike to talk about?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I heard about urban heat island mitigation.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
What is urban heat island mitigation?
What is urban heat island?
That's what I haven't heard of.
Do you have any examples of it?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
or like disney would be a good example the mouse
house yeah, okay, because theythey have so much vegetation
around like the parks, rightthat it's.
It's like, hmm, does it everrain?
Right?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
So if you think about it.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
So, basically what it is, it's large urban planning
projects and surfacemodifications can alter local
temperature and precipitationpatterns.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, if I think about that, it's probably around
that it's warmer, and so withthat being warmer, you get these
convection currents and I cantell you, being a pilot myself,
you're flying along inside of anairplane at low altitudes,
right.
I mean, this is a single engineplane and it would get quite
(23:56):
bumpy during the summer monthsand yeah, kind of like when you
get close to cities and stufflike that.
But I never remember that inthe pilot training.
But that does make sense andmaybe that's those can
convections, with the mitigatingof the heat that makes it to
where it doesn't rain, causedon't people say that it doesn't
rain that much at dizzy.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yeah, they say that a lot.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
They say, like the storm goes around the park.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So I don't know if that's a urban, would you say
that was called?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Urban heat island mitigation.
So I don't know if that's whatit is or if just the mouse house
has like a ray gun or somethinglike that.
Yeah, some kind of dome thatthey just Did something.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, now isn't there something around the?
What's that radar technologythat they were using to heat up
clouds?
There was something that wewere reading about that Was it
like HAARP or something.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, I think it was.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Oh yeah, it was.
It was the HAARP, and that'swhere they're blasting
microwaves into clouds to heatthem up and and get them to do
stuff.
But they, you know there's alot of stuff around heart.
We should actually do a wholepodcast on on heart because of
all.
I mean, that's got a lot ofcontroversy around it.
(25:12):
So it really seems like withthe cloud manipulation whether
it's with the fog or or if it'swith harp or any of them it's
it's like they're putting thingsin there, either hot or cold,
or to get things attracted to,like salt or even dry ice that
we've heard of.
(25:32):
But I guess, without furtherado, we should get to actually
talking about the cloud seeding.
So what is it that you want toknow about cloud seeding?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So I'm curious, like what it's all about.
It's been very popular in thenews as of recently.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
A lot of people are talking about it on social
medias and blaming some of theseyou know disasters and weather
patterns on cloud seeding yeah,well, we talked a little bit
about the cloud seeding, back uhproject storm fury a few
minutes ago and basically whatthe cloud seeding is that you
(26:13):
know they can do use dry ice orthey can use salt, or they can
use this uh silver iodide andwhat it is.
If you look at the molecularstructure of salt, they're very
close to water and so the cloudseeding, the whole idea, is that
they drop it into a cloud,either by airplane or some of
the ones I've seen now, if theyknow the weather pattern is
(26:34):
going over a mountain they canput these flares up on the
mountain and, when theconditions are perfectly right,
that it seeds into the cloud thesilver iodide or whatever it is
.
But one of the key takeaways Iwant folks to understand is is
that it's not like they throw itinto the air and here comes the
rain.
I think there's a song herecomes the rain.
(26:56):
Yeah okay well, I'm glad thatwe're podcasters and not singers
not singers, because we wouldprobably be more broke than what
we already are, but so, as itcomes over, it takes 45 minutes
to an hour and then they monitorit and you know things have to
be exactly right.
But they've been doing this forover 60 years it's a long time
and in some places they've saidthat it's increased the amount
(27:20):
of rainfall by about 10%.
So you know, being a southernboy here makes you wonder if the
juice is worth the squeeze onthat.
But there are companies I thinkNWWX is a company or something
like that but there are peoplethat have commercial companies
that do cloud seeding.
And there's some controversythat if you get the rain to
(27:42):
start falling earlier overCalifornia, how does that affect
Nevada?
But yes, there are very activecloud seeding operations going
on in Idaho and the rest.
There's actually ones in Texaslike we talked about with Camp
Mystic, and it's been going onsince about 1997 in Texas and
there's other ones in Californiaaround the Santa Ana River
(28:04):
watershed.
It's a program out there wherethey have about four or five
mountain regions and they haveabout 15 to 20 ground seeding
locations that come over.
But, like I said, everythinghas to be extremely perfect for
that to happen.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
But it's not a new technology.
Yeah, See.
I didn't really know what itwas until you know seeing it in
the news and social media andpeople talking about it.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, but it's been going on since 1947 out in
Australia.
Believe it or not, there'scloud seeding going on there,
but you know.
So what's the effectiveness ofit?
Some of the studies say thatit's from zero, which that sucks
if you're a cloud seedingcompany?
Yeah, absolutely, and you'reinvested in it and it's zero,
but it can be up to 20% and youcan see that 20% more rainfall
(28:57):
can be detrimental.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Right, exactly, but it's all about… Floods and all
of that.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, and it's all about getting the rain to drop
where it needs to drop at, butthey also do it say like in the
Reno area, and they do somewinter cloud seeding.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And they claim that they do enough seeding out there
in the Reno watershed area.
I guess that it's enough forabout 40,000 homes a year, wow
yeah.
So with all these technologiesso right now I think that
they're proven their hypothesisright that can we put stuff in
(29:34):
the weather to manipulate it,and we've seen during this
podcast, or heard during thispodcast, they can do it via
lightning rods to attractlightning.
We learned about manipulatinghurricanes and we've also heard
about cloud seeding, and while Ithink it's something that can
(29:55):
be done that, is it really worthit?
I mean, what are your thoughtson cloud seeding, whether
manipulation should.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I mean from the studies, from what they're
saying, it's a very lowpercentage if it does anything.
So I just don't see any valueto it.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah it's not like it's enough right.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
If they could send something up and say it's a even
60%, actually 51% would bebetter than this like zero to 20
, zero to 20.
So that means, if it's halfthat, zero to 10%, I just don't
think it's worth it.
I don't I think at some point,just like we talk about in a lot
of our shows, some things weshould probably just leave up to
(30:43):
God whether it's my God orsomebody else's God or somebody
else's supreme being that Ithink we should probably just
leave the weather manipulationalone, all right?
Well, we're at the bottom ofthe half hour and you've been
riding along with the Global BobShow with my co-host, hello
Shelly.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And we hope that we've given you some information
for you to go out and do yourown research, and I'd be very
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Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yes, text us a message.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
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weather manipulation and all ofthat?
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