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July 2, 2025 25 mins

In this episode of the Global Investors Podcast, Charles Carillo sits down with Andy Weiner, President of RockStep Capital, to explore how shopping center investments can outperform multifamily in today’s high-interest environment.

Andy shares his journey from operating 159 retail stores to building over 10 million sq ft of shopping centers across 11 states. You’ll learn how grocery-anchored assets, enclosed mall redevelopments, and positive leverage strategies offer outsized returns—especially in secondary and tertiary markets.

Topics covered:

  • Grocery-anchored shopping center investment strategy

  • Enclosed mall value-add deals and redevelopment

  • Positive leverage vs negative leverage in real estate

  • Underwriting retail assets for downside protection

  • The RockStep Coalition: community-backed investing

  • Tenant credit analysis and lease structuring

  • Retail construction cost trends and risk mitigation

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