June 25, 2025 • 43 mins
The Ladies Who Travel dive into hilarious and confusing ways English varies worldwide, demonstrating how even English speakers can struggle to understand each other when travelling between countries.
• Words like "thongs," "chips," and "restroom" have completely different meanings in the UK, Australia, and America
• Cultural communication beyond words includes queuing etiquette and personal space expectations
• Google Translate is essential for navigation, ordering food, and even handling emergencies abroad
• Download language packs before travelling to ensure translation access without internet
• Learning just three words—hello, please, and thank you—in the local language makes a significant difference
• Speaking slower and enunciating clearly helps when communicating across language barriers
• Reading the room and adjusting behaviour to match local customs shows respect when travelling
• Non-verbal communication varies significantly between cultures, including hand gestures and personal space
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What happens when three women from three countries
think they're speaking the samelanguage, but aren't.
In this episode, we're divinginto the everyday mix-ups, menu
fails and awkward travel momentscaused by English not always
meaning the same thing aroundthe world.
Let's just say not everythingmeans what you think it does.
Hi and welcome to the GlobalTravel Planning Podcast.
(00:20):
I'm your host, tracey Collins,who, with my expert guests, will
take you on a weekly journey todestinations around the globe,
providing travel inspiration,itinerary ideas, practical tips
and more to help you plan yournext travel adventure.
Welcome to episode 60 of theGlobal Travel Planner podcast.
(00:47):
This episode, the ladies whotravel are diving into all the
hilarious and sometimesconfusing ways English varies
around the world and how, evenwhen we think we're speaking the
same language, we're often noton the same page.
So we're going to be sharingsome of our top stories of
language mishaps when we travel,how we prepare to travel to
(01:07):
non-English speaking countries,and some tips and tech that can
help smooth things out.
So this chat actually came andwas inspired by a TikTok that
Melissa and Shelley, who arejoining me now, did and shared
recently on TikTok and Instagram.
So, hi guys, hello, hello onTikTok and Instagram.
So, hi guys, hello, hello.
So let's talk about your TikTok.
So what was it?
(01:27):
Let's talk about what is in theTikTok because I'm going to
share it in the show notes.
But let's talk about that andalso just say where we are at
the moment as well, because Iknow everybody likes to know
where we are in the world.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So I'm back in Brisbane.
Welcome home, tracey.
Thank you.
And Melissa, where are you atthe moment?
Um I'm in brisbane as well, umin my house in brisbane it's
very, very cold.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
It is I'm freezing and we've got shelly who's
sitting there in a t-shirt withthe aircon on, so obviously
you're not somewhere where it'scold no, I'm in sunny florida oh
lucky.
I wish I was to tell you.
So how long are you going to bein Florida?
For I know you've been doing abit of travel around the States.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yes, I'm not quite sure.
Probably maybe four or fiveweeks, I'm not sure yet.
Yeah, enjoying the heat.
Yes, actually I like the heat.
So it's been very sunny andI've been checking out a lot of
the beaches and some historicalsites.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Excellent.
Well, you do a really good jobof avoiding the cold while you
travel.
I haven't done such a good jobthese last 12 months.
I seem to have just gone cold,cold, cold, cold, a bit hot and
then cold again, and thenobviously going to Antarctica on
the air.
I'm not exactly going to go hotthere either.
Anyway, okay, so tell us aboutthe TikTok stroke Instagram reel
(02:48):
that you guys created.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So I was in Australia , spent several weeks in
Australia and Melissa and I metup a couple times and I was
really struggling with.
I thought I was going to anEnglish speaking country and I
was really struggling with.
I thought I was going to anEnglish speaking country and I
was really honestly strugglingwith the language and you know
(03:12):
there's slang for everything.
So I was like I would textMelissa or I text you, or I'd
ask one of your friends in thebuilding.
I'd be like what does this mean?
What does that mean?
Ask one of your friends in thebuilding.
I'd be like what does this mean, what does that mean?
Or I would say something that Ithought meant one thing and
(03:32):
somebody would give me like aweird look or I would get
something strange.
So Melissa and I took a trip toLady Elliot Island, one of the
off of the Great Barrier Reef,and we were just sitting around
the pool one day and I said, youknow she goes hey, how's your
language?
You know, go in.
I said, hey, what about if wejust like film this?
(03:52):
Because I know I am not theonly one struggling with this
and it was just purely improv.
I had no idea what she was goingto ask me and she gave me a pop
quiz.
I think I did pretty good andit just I mean there was like I
want to say close to 10,000views and keep counting, and it
(04:15):
just people really resonatedwith it because, honestly, tracy
, I'm going to say you just textme the other day and I had to
look up the word koft koft.
Koft it means please.
Yes, it means pleased.
I had no idea what that meant.
Oh, choft choft.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
You know, I have to say I know when you said that
when you came to Australia, youwere like you've got English
speaking country, but but, um,but I'm from England, which is
originally where English comesfrom, and when we go to the
States and Australia or anyother English-speaking country,
we kind of go the same.
We're like how did all thesewords, these slang words,
(04:57):
develop?
And I had the same, because Iemigrated to South Africa when I
was a teenager and I was likewhat, I don't know all these
things, what are kopis, copies,what are, what are tackies,
which I'll explain in a bit, butit was, it was a real thing.
So so you did you just come upwith some words then to to give
Shelly Melissa that you kind ofjust went how do you know these
words, what they mean?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I'd kind of remembereda couple that she'd asked me
over the last few days, and so Ikind of said them again and and
as I was saying one word, itmade me think of a different
word and yeah, so I tried to putsome easy ones in and I tried
to put some funny ones in aswell, and, yeah, it was a bit of
fun.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Oh, it's really.
It's a really good, it's areally fun reel, and I will
words that cause confusion, sobetween english-speaking
countries.
So we're thinking at the minute, if you're in the states or in
canada, or you're in new zealandor in australia or in south
africa, or all theenglish-speaking countries in
the world where you go, whatwords cause confusion?
Well, I'm gonna throw in theobvious one when you come to
(05:57):
australia, which is thongs yeah,yeah, you took my word.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
that was was what I was going to say, that has to be
the one.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Obviously, thongs in Australia are what we would call
flip-flops.
Do you call them flip-flops,shelley?
Yes, flip-flops, yes, andthey're called jangles in New
Zealand, which I can kind of gowith a bit weird.
Sorry New Zealanders out there,but it does sound a bit weird,
jan, because thongs in the UKare basically, you know, string
knickers, what?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
in the UK too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're juststring knickers, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
So any British person comes here and somebody says
I'm going to put on my thongs,we kind of go in and no, that's
not what we, we don't imagineyou're putting footwear on.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I didn't know, that was just an Aussie thing.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I thought, yeah, radio yeah, so we call them
flip-flops, because thongs areknickers, not footwear or yeah,
thongs are, yeah, like g-string,we would call it a g-string,
yeah yeah, um yeah, oh yeah itis a g-string.
I just couldn't think of theword of it.
I just call it knickers.
But you know what I mean stringknickers yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
(07:02):
.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
What?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
other words.
Come on, what other words arethings that cause, like you go
okay, confusion?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I think um, chips and crisps are another one that
confused me only because I hadheard the word crisp and then I
heard the word chips.
But what really threw me washot chips.
So like you go someplace andyou have to order hot chips, but
what's the difference betweenhot chips, crisp and chips?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
so there's like all well, because, like in australia
, you would just say chips orhot chips, wouldn't you?
It would chips, yeah, in the uk, crisps, crisps of the crisps
in a packet, and then it wouldbe um fries, which you will hear
more.
You'll, yeah, definitely hearfries, but chips, hot chips, as
opposed to and I think it's morein australia, because in the uk
(07:51):
you'd say crisps or you'd saychips or fries, but in australia
, I think the differentiationyou kind of need it, they're all
chips yes yeah, see, see, inthe uS you would say french
fries, or you would say potatochips or just chips.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, yeah, I do think it's funny when you're
like you know in the UK and youknow you'll get crisps, like
you'll get crisps with asandwich or something, and I'm
like what?
That's just weird.
That's just weird, like.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I don't know.
Yeah, I know I that it's a bitstrange when you're expecting to
get chips and they put crispson the plate and I've had that.
I'm trying to think where elseI've had that, not just in the
uk, and I'm like, okay, I wasn't, I was expecting it to be chips
in the us.
In the us, sometimes you'll getthat yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's really weird and it'slike sometimes, if it specifies
(08:46):
on the menu, just chips, you'renot sure, is that hot chips or
is that going to be like crisps?
So that's always a.
That's an interesting one.
Um, come on, think of someother words.
I'm going to mention one that Iscrewed up in australia and I
still have to be careful with.
I'm not going to say what itmeans, but it's, it's very rude.
Um, and in australia they wouldsay the word route, um, which
(09:08):
is not what we'd say in the uk.
We would say which route areyou going to take?
Well, that isn't a word thatyou would use in australia,
because it's quite rude and Ididn't know that I want to start
with.
So that's kind of my one way.
I went okay, right, I won't usethat word.
It's route.
I was wondering why everybodyin Australia was going the route
and I was like okay, uh but wewould say, we would still say
(09:30):
route um, but it just it couldmean.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It could mean which way are you going, or it could
mean something else, somethingI've heard route said in
Australia as well, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah maybe but yeah, which route would you go?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
yeah, yeah okay yeah, I think I got in trouble over
that one.
Oh, really while I was there.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yes, on the same line I was gonna say on that same
line, another word.
That's kind of interesting thatwhen I hear americans say it
I'm like, and that's fanny, yes.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yes, that you would not say that in England.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Of course not.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
It has a completely different meaning and I've said
that to quite a few of my NorthAmerican friends.
Like when you say fanny pack,it's like we just kind of go say
it.
I know, because that's morelike very private, private areas
(10:31):
, right, yes, yes, yes, use it.
And it's like and yeah, so it'snot a word that you would, you
would, we would never use thatword.
It's like, it's like one ofthose, like kind of original on
the roots that you just not rudeword, but just a word that you
wouldn't use in conversation.
No, no.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
But you guys call it a bum pack.
Yeah, yeah, bum bag, bum bag,yeah, bum bag.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, because bums are okay.
Bums are okay Not, and bearingin mind that, like 150, 200
years ago, women got that as aname, I mean like well, even I
remember that there was a veryfamous chef in the uk called
fanny craddock, which alwaysyeah, so I mean, that's it.
(11:14):
What about, um?
Can you think of any words,american words that you kind of
struggled with when you cameover, or people like if you use
them, they don't know whatyou're talking about?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
uh, well, one of them , I it's not so much just over
there, but when you go into aplace and I always would say, oh
, can you tell me where therestroom is?
And and they, they look at meso like if you're in one country
it's called a water closet andwhich always perplexed me
(11:46):
because I'm like I picture acloset just full of water.
But the other thing is mostcountries just call it a toilet.
So one time I asked somebodyI'm like why is restroom not
used?
Is restroom not used?
(12:09):
Well, they differentiate.
They told me a restroom or abathroom is considered someplace
with a shower in it, not just atoilet.
So I don't know.
Now I'm kind of used to askingfor a toilet.
But then when I come back tothe us I'm like where's the
toilet?
They look at me like I'm cringeor something.
They're're just like eww.
But you know, kind of crude.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I have to say it's one of Doug's pet peeves.
He really, really dislikes theterm restroom and he's like I'm
not going for a rest why wouldyou want a restroom?
He's not here Because I know hewould pop in at this point and
say why do you want a restroom?
Honestly, that's one of his.
He's like.
I don't get that.
I don't understand that.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah .
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I mean, where does water closet come from?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, that's really weird, hey, yeah, no, that's I
never.
You never hear that If youtranslate it into French, though
.
So if you were in Paris and youwant to go to a toilet, a
toilet you would say uh, whichis wc, where's the toilet?
Okay, um, I don't think you'dhear it so much in.
In english, we just say where's, where's the loo, where's the
bog, where's the toilet?
(13:14):
Do you know those?
Yeah, bog is another one.
It might, that's very slang.
Uh, where's the loo is, but notrestroom, because it just
sounds a bit, a bit odd yeah,yeah, but that's one that's very
common all around the world.
Those three you know.
So yeah, I've noticed a lot morecountries that are like.
(13:35):
I guess a lot of countries inasia were using the term
restroom as well.
We saw that far more in asiaand europe.
You'd probably get um WC,bathroom, toilet, rather than
restroom.
But that's definitely theinfluence of um American, the
American English um, on ondifferent places which you see
depending on, because obviouslydifferent countries in the world
(13:57):
value British English, AmericanEnglish, Australian.
It depends what they're closestto.
I guess it's because I know Iused to teach English as a
foreign language, so there'scertain accents and certain
because they want that languagebecause of the whatever business
they're going to do or whateverat school.
So I think that's, yeah, it'svery interesting.
But I mean, do you change yourvocabulary depending on who
(14:20):
you're talking to or do you justkeep like using your own
Australianisms, Britishisms?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I definitely change the way I speak.
I know I think you know we'relucky, if you want to call it,
in that we're brought up onAmerican TV and movies and stuff
.
So it's very easy for us or methat we know what the American
words are and so we change them.
And for me, I often haveinternational students stay with
(14:49):
me in my house Asian studentsand I do notice that when I
speak to them I'll try reallyhard not to use any slang and
speak in very clear, basicEnglish.
So yeah, I'm very mindful of it.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, Well, I think you have to be for us too, and
because everything ends with ano the fish show at the savo and
the I don't know we had.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
We had the abo and the abro and the agro and yeah,
we had that whole that wholewatch.
Watch the TikTok.
Yes, no, yeah.
What I find interesting is whenI go to other places as an
American I try to leave out alot of words Because for
(15:37):
grammar-wise, we add so manydifferent grammar words,
conjunctions that add, we add somuch where other countries, I
don't think they get to thepoint faster okay, okay and so
when I go someplace, I just tryto make my point, like you know,
(16:00):
like tell me or explain.
I just try to simplify it asquickly as I can with the fewest
words possible.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
And that segues really usefully into kind of the
next section, where we'retalking about that is that when
we go to countries where Englishisn't widely spoken and I mean
we have been incredibly spoiledand that majority of places
around the world you know thatyou can get by in English.
But I think that has translatedinto making us quite lazy when
it comes to learning otherlanguages and we kind of take it
(16:33):
for granted we're going to goto places that will at least be
able to get by in English, buthow do you prepare and like, how
do you deal with it?
Like?
So you say, shelley, you try tosimplify your English, because
I think that that's a good pointas well.
And you know, not using flowerylanguage or any slang, when you
were in any country wherepeople don't speak English, what
do you do, melissa, to?
(16:54):
I know you, particularly, arevery, very good at this yeah, I
just really like to try reallyhard to.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Um, you know, like you said, we're very lucky that
we speak English, but I don'twant to be one of those
travelers that just expect that.
Oh well, they're gonna, they'regoing to understand me.
So I always there's three wordsthat I always learn wherever I
go, and that's hello, please,and thank you.
A lot of the times I'm quitelucky because hello can be hello
or hi, but they're the threewords that I always learn and I
(17:25):
mean they're very simple, but Ifind if I learn those three
words and I can say hello tosomeone, I can say thank you,
and then I might just do a lotof pointing in them in between,
but then and always have areally big smile on my face and
I always find generally peopleare happy to communicate with me
and what about?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I know you, I've been with you to Thailand and you
were very good and also very um.
I guess there's one tip I'd saylater is also like, even if you
only would use a few words isto use them, because I think we
get a bit shy and about whathappens to say incorrectly or um
, and it's actually just.
You just have to go for it, Ithink you just have to learn
those phrases and the responseyou get is always so warm and
(18:05):
welcoming.
made that um, and I know, when Iwas with you in Puglia last
year Shelley, you're Italian Iwas like, wow, like you, you
could communicate really well inItalian.
So obviously you, you didItalian lessons.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yes, I was very fortunate that one of my dear
friends, fabiana, and I hadanother couple of friends.
I was very immersed witheveryone, but Fabiana and a
couple other friends actuallygave me some book lessons.
And then I did something that Idon't know some travelers might
(18:42):
want to try is, maybe a coupleweeks before you leave those
important words, like Melissasaid, and then maybe a few more,
I put sticky notes, I wrotethem down and I put the word it
doesn't matter what language, Iput the word and then the
meaning underneath and I putthem on my bathroom mirror, I
put them on the front door, Iput them where I cook, I put
(19:04):
them all over and then you'rekind of like looking at them
constantly.
So I don't know, subconsciously, you're kind of taking it in.
So it's not like you're sittingdown book studying.
So yeah, but I will say I donot have the accent or pronounce
the words.
I still massacre the language.
(19:26):
But I try, I try and I dounderstand them.
I understand so much more thanI could speak, so that's good.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And I think, as I say , it's having a go is kind of
important and the response youget.
What about kind of nonverbalcommunication?
Because in some places that isjust as important as
understanding the kind of verballanguage that's spoken.
Um, do you, do you look up kindof cultural etiquette around
communication or gestures,because I know there's some,
(19:56):
some gestures that we might usethat in some european countries.
I think no.
I think it's greece where it'sactually quite rude on
particular hand, which it mightbe okay in another country, but
it's actually rude there.
Um, and I know there's some.
There's some other countrieswhere you've got to like what we
would.
You know, if you go to France,for example, you'll kiss people
on either cheek Well, I wouldn'tgo to some countries and do
(20:19):
that and I'm thinking about,like you know, going to some
countries like South Korea orJapan where you take your shoes
off.
That again is kind of you know,you're communicating your kind
of respect and understanding theculture by doing that.
But is there any other onesthat you can kind of think of or
expand on?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I just kind of like, observe and um and follow suit
as much as I I can.
Um, yeah, like I'm a bigbeliever, I'm in their country
or I'm in their house and I wantto be respectful and, and, and
you know, do what what everyoneelse is doing and not just be
like, well, I'm in their countryor I'm in their house and I
want to be respectful and and,and, you know, do what what
everyone else is doing and notjust be like, well, I'm just
going to do my thing yeah, Iagree, I agree.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I was going to say another one for um, anybody
visiting the UK and this is a,this is a huge one for for us
Brits is that we are very, verygood at queuing or lining up oh,
yeah, so we take you.
You guys say lining up in thestates.
I know well if you, if you jumpa queue in the uk, we won't say
(21:18):
anything necessarily to you butyou will get the stare.
You know, if you watchpaddington bay you know when
paddington gives that stare,that's what you will get from
all the British people in thatqueue going.
They cannot believe that youhave jumped the line or you
jumped.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
That reminds me, do you remember, tracy, when we
went to India and our guide saidto us about queuing, and she
said that if there's a spacebetween you and the person in
front of it, then someone willtake that space?
Yes, it's true, you have tokind of go, yeah's true, yeah,
it was yeah and it's fine.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
it's like then you have to kind of not get annoyed
because in britain or inaustralia you wouldn't do that,
but then go to another cultureand it's like it's.
I remember actually being indisneyland, paris, with my mom
and we're queuing at the toiletsand and a lady walked in, just
walked straight into the nexttoilet.
My mother was absolutelyapoplectic.
I still remember it.
At the time she was like butI've been standing in this queue
(22:13):
, that person didn't care.
Wherever they come from, itdoesn't matter, there's a space,
you just go for it.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I found that really hard in India, the whole space
thing and people like right upclose to you and you're like
okay this is normal, melissa.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Okay, this is normal, melissa, this is normal.
It's like the personal spacething when it's like when you
used to have like a half a meterbetween you, go to a culture
where that that doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
It's kind of it's trying to adapt to that as well
for what you're used to well,and I'll say, in southeast asia
it's kind of the same thing,maybe not to the same extent,
but also in a lot of the Asiancountries.
Waving, like you know you seein the movies or I don't know
how it is in Australia, but tohail a cab or wave for a cab,
(23:02):
you know, you wave your hand.
Well, that, that thatdisrespectful, they don't do
that.
They hold their hand down andthey gesture down versus waving,
because they find the palm ofyour hand up as like a
disrespectful gesture.
(23:24):
And same with queuing in SouthKorea, same with queuing in
Thailand, korea, same withqueuing in Thailand and also on
the trains.
I don't know, I don't remember.
On the UK, I believe it may bethe same way, but eating or
drinking in you know Malaysia,you know other countries, they
(23:47):
don't really eat and drink.
They may bring food on there,but they don't eat or drink.
And it's not.
It's because of respect for theother person, because if
they're hungry or they'rethirsty, they don't want to eat
or drink in front of them.
You know, out of respect.
It's not so much.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
You know you can't, so it's things like that no,
it's really interesting to kindof think about those and be
aware of them, and I get asked alot um on the uk travel
planning site and about about alot from north americans coming
over to the uk.
Particularly what, what couldthey do not to stand out?
And it's and.
(24:27):
And the first thing that Iwould say and this is no
disrespect for any northamericans listening is that tend
to you tend to be able to heara north american accent voice
before you see the person,because they tend to be a little
bit like now I'm a pretty loudperson.
I won't say this, so I'm loud.
But um, north americans havegot a reputation, um, I shall
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say um, people from the USparticularly have a reputation
for being quite loud.
So I don't know, shelley, assomebody from the US, how do you
feel about that?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Actually, I will agree, I will agree, and it
really depends I won't sayeveryone, but I will agree, and
especially from certain states.
Ah, okay, well, I could justsay that From certain states.
You know, there's some southernstates that are extremely loud,
(25:21):
there's some eastern, northernstates that are very loud.
So yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I totally agree with that and is that I guess when
when you're at home in thestates and you're in that your
particular states that you'refrom and that's the kind of
cultural norm that it's you'requite loud, exuberant, then
that's just how you are.
I think it's then reading theroom, perhaps when you're on a
tube train in London orsomewhere else, that actually
people don't necessarily, you'llsee that people don't either
(25:54):
talk, don't even talk, won'tmake eye contact, so it's kind
of then keeping your voice down.
I know in Japan even talking onthe train is frowned upon.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
And that's what I mean where it goes state to
state, because a lot of thestates not all of them,
obviously, but a lot of thestates don't have a lot of mass
transportation.
So we're kind of a car culture,you know, similar to you go to
New York or you go to many, youknow eastern country, you know
states, or you go to the WestCoast or you know middle America
.
Some states have really goodtransportation.
(26:39):
Chicago they have greattransportation that you know,
where they're a little bitquieter, they're a little bit,
you know, more respectful.
You know they don't talk asloud, but then you may go to
other places that there are carculture and I think it comes
from that.
Uh, you know, going out,socializing, kind of competition
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type.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
You know, like you said, exuberuberance, you know
the thing that we all do andwe're all conscious of doing is
kind of is reading the room, ispreparing before you go, and
also when you're there, is kindof checking out what.
What are other people doing?
Because you, you know you don'twant to stand out, you want to,
you do want to fit in.
You, you know, nobody wants togo to a place and have everybody
(27:28):
looking at them because they'redoing the wrong thing.
So it's about kind of lookingaround, following that and being
aware of your environment, andI think you do that.
If you're in a place where youare genuinely kind of wanting to
learn about the culture andabout the people, you make that
effort, don't you?
Because that's what you want todo.
That's where you are Now.
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What about um tech?
When you travel, how do you?
I was recently in japan and incambodia and vietnam and I could
not have done, uh, withoutgoogle translate it was my go-to
, so is that?
is that something that you guysuse?
Yeah, I do Translate.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I just think it's amazing.
You know, for people who don'tknow like you can, you can talk
into it and then it will spitout in the language that you
need it to.
It's absolutely amazing and Ijust want to give you an example
of how I've used it.
Everyone who's listening knowsI've broken my foot a couple of
times.
Last time I was by myself and Iwas in a taxi and, um, and
(28:32):
trying to explain that I wantedto go to the hospital and I and
I couldn't do it, and you knowit was in Spain, he didn't speak
English.
I didn't speak any Spanish, soI used Google Translate and we
were like back and forth and itwas amazing.
And this taxi driver, so sweet,he actually went in and he, he
told the hospital what was goingon.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
So, um, but yeah, google translate for the win,
and not only that.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
But you can also take photos on it and it will uh
spit out a sign in your languageor a menu, or yeah, google
translate, it's so good yeah, Iuse it.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I use it constantly.
I like downloading thelanguages before I go to the
country or while I'm in thecountry so I can use it offline,
in case I don't have internet.
Also, I like using it in thegrocery stores because you can
use your camera and hold it upto the ingredients, because then
(29:31):
you can look in real time andsee oh, does this contain fish
nuts?
Whatever you know, so you knowwhat you're eating, because
sometimes you can't tell.
But, yeah, definitely I.
I have gotten out of manysituations with google Translate
.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I think it's absolute genius because I struggled, as
everybody knows, in Japan tofind things that I wanted to eat
and I found having that andjust holding it up and
translating the menu or in the7-Eleven, exactly what was in
the food Because I avoid fish itwas just really helpful.
And I, doug and I went to awedding in cambodia and, um,
(30:14):
having the ability to do theverbal talk into it and then it
it, then translate it andverbally then say it to the
people we're sharing the tablewith, was really useful.
And then it was going backwardsand forward.
It was so much fun because,like we would record it, then
play it and then they would saysomething.
Then it was going backwards andforwards.
It was so much fun because,like we would record it, then
play it and then they would saysomething and then it would play
it back to us in English.
I mean it's amazing and I canthink of when I first started
(30:36):
travelling on my own in the 80sand there was nothing like that.
There was nothing.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
We have a book, do you remember?
I used to always buy the book,the Planet Praise book, and I
can picture now you know you'dsit in the menu, sorry, sit in a
restaurant, and you'd be liketalking to the waiter and you'd
be like looking for black tea.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah, it's so much easier now, tracy let me ask you
, since, since you spent time inCambodia, let me ask you and
Melissa, what does when you handsomebody some money and they
say it's broken?
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Ah, it means that it's got.
So in Cambodia you've got tomake sure that there's no tear
or rip or fold in the in thenote or writ or fold in the in
the note.
Uh, because they can't acceptit.
And I asked I was in one shopand it won, it was a dollar note
because they accept dollars, usdollars.
(31:38):
And it had a little uh tear orlittle nick in it and and they
went oh, the bank won't acceptit, so they won't take it.
Because I was like what shemeans broken?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
that's.
That's what happened to me.
I landed and then they doaccept their currency and us
dollars.
So I I went to go pay and theperson handed me back the bill
and they said I'm sorry, this isbroken.
I was like what?
Like it's broken, and I'mlooking at it like what?
What are you talking?
(32:08):
What's broken?
But you're absolutely right, ithad like a little crease in it.
But fast forward, over a monthI found out that from a local
that they will accept it if theyknow you and it's not like
ripped or torn.
The funny part of it is, ifyou're in the us, I mean that
(32:31):
thing would have to bedemolished for somebody not to
take it.
It could be taped, it could bewhatever, and somebody is going
to take that bill.
So I thought it was funny.
Once I found out what thatmeant, I'm like really.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
So that's a really good, you know if anybody's
traveling there and they thatyou know, you, you don't know
what you mean is broken.
Exactly that's exactly what Imean about that different use of
language.
To describe something like well, broken would mean something
completely different to us.
But yeah, it's a, it's anunusable note.
But what about?
Have have either of you had anykind of funny fails when you've
(33:06):
tried you know've tried to usewhat you thought was appropriate
language and you've got itwrong?
Or have you generally found ithaving a go has worked and it's
generally been pretty smooth?
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I can't think of any real fat fails.
You know, I find you know, aslong as you say everything with
a smile and you give it a go,people are just really friendly
and you'll work it out.
I've never had a drama, I'vealways worked it out.
That's great.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
The one time I oh sorry, shelley, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
No, I haven't had like an epic fail, well not that
I can remember offhand, but inItaly they have.
I don't eat meat, so I wantedlike a veggie pizza.
So I said I would like peppersand this and that on it.
And so they were like, oh, okay, and then they brought out the
(34:03):
thing.
And they didn't bring it outyet, but they were saying, okay,
we give you pepperoni and this.
And that I'm like, no, no, no,I don't want pepperoni.
Well, evidently they callpeppers pepperoni and it was
this.
So it kind of was like back andforth Like I didn't know that,
like you know, peppers werepepperoni and it.
(34:25):
Yeah, it was kind of funny onceI figured it out.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
So I don't know.
And I remember um for me, um.
So I moved to France a longtime ago like 1988, I think it
was so quite a few years ago nowand I'd I'd done a little bit
of French, but um, and I learnedit very quick.
Within six months I was, I wascompletely fluent, which was
great.
But I remember when I first gotthere, the grandparent of the
(34:49):
family come on a visit and inFrance, to show respect to
somebody you don't know who'solder than you, use the word
vous rather than to for you, theword you, as in when you're
saying would you like a cup oftea, for example, and I use to,
which is the familiar term andquite disparate, like not
disrespectful, but it'ssomething I shouldn't have done,
(35:10):
and he was okay about it.
But I remember at the time Ithink cringing and thinking, oh,
I've just used to and I shoulduse view and I didn't want to be
disrespectful.
So I was like I'm really,really sorry about it, but it,
things like that, that just thatcan, can trip you up when you,
you know, I was like oh, and Imean I'm thinking in because I
speak french.
But I'll tell you what in parissometimes it's, it's pointless
(35:30):
me even speaking french, becauseas soon as they pick up that um
, I'm not a native frenchspeaker, they're just switching
english and kind of look downthe nose sometimes the way it is
that you're like okay, sosometimes I think you know what,
even though speak the language.
I'm not going to attempt itbecause the response I'm going
to get is not going to beparticularly friendly.
But I guess that's somewherelike Paris where they used to
(35:50):
lots of people massacring thelanguage a lot of the times and
maybe don't have as muchtolerance.
But generally I find, whereverI've been around the world,
having a few words just opens alot of doors and definitely gets
a friendly response.
Just opens a lot of doors anddefinitely gets a friendly
response.
But what would be your top tipsfor dealing with language
differences while travelling?
(36:10):
What would be the one thingthat you would suggest, melissa?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I would suggest making sure you've got Google
Translate on your phone.
My view is learning a couple ofwords like hello, please, and
thank you, and alwayscommunicating, um you know, with
a big smile and being friendlyto people, it gets you a long
way, absolutely.
What about you, shelly?
Speaker 3 (36:31):
uh, I agree with melissa.
Um, I would just piggyback offof that.
As far as google translate,it's imperative that you
download the language before youknow when you have Wi-Fi,
because so many places havespotty Wi-Fi and you don't want
to get stuck in a taxi or a busstation or something and not
(36:54):
have Google Translate.
And I would say, too, whatMelissa said earlier.
I would say, too, what Melissasaid earlier you know you are in
their country, you are a guestin their country, so you know,
if you notice a sign of respectis just, you know, kind of to
nod or let an elder go ahead infront of you or not eat on the
(37:19):
train, or, you know, be a littlebit more quiet.
It's something.
Just show respect.
And the last thing I would sayis speak slower.
Speak slower and enunciate yourwords, because, like myself, I
don't think I have an accent,but I do, I do.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I do I do.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
None of us.
None of us really think we havean accent.
But to the people that we'respeaking to, you know, in
different countries, not only dowe have another accent, but
we're speaking a differentlanguage and it's usually their
second language.
So I find people tell me thatthey could understand me better
(38:02):
if I, if I speak slower my tipis just to have a go.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Learn some other words and have a go just go for
it because I know, um, it can be.
You know, you have that littlebit of oh.
I don't want to make a mistakeand get it wrong.
Um, I have to say I'm going toshout out for Doug here, because
, doug, he went to do some workin Wales a couple years ago and
his Welsh is still excellent.
He still will speak, he stillknows the words of Welsh and
it's amazing.
I'm like, well, there you go,and he went and he spoke his
(38:30):
Welsh and it went down really,really well.
Um, I would say 99.9% of thetime, if you learn the phrases
and have a go, you'll get abrilliant response yeah well.
Thank you, ladies, for joiningme again for this episode of the
podcast.
It's been great to chat withyou, as always, and next episode
will be episode 65, becausethere's actually five Wednesdays
(38:51):
in July, so that means fiveepisodes of the Global Travel
Plan podcast and, as always, thelast one of the month is us
guys chatting, so that'll beepisode 65.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
We're going to talk about food.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yes, my favorite subject.
Well, it's gonna be aninteresting one because I I
struggle a little bit, as when Itravel.
So, um, and I will try lots offood, but I have lots of foods
that I don't like, so I that canbe an issue.
So we'll talk about that.
And we'll talk about how you'rea vegetarian shelly, how you
deal with that, and then melissaI think you're pretty
adventurous with what you'll try, so we'll talk about how you're
a vegetarian shelly, how youdeal with that, and then melissa
I think you're prettyadventurous with what you'll try
, so we'll talk about.
We'll talk about those things.
(39:29):
And also, when you used totravel with, with your daughter
as well, how you how you dealtwith that, because, um, you know
, travel with children as wellcan can come with its challenges
when it comes to food.
But anyway, so what do you guysgot planned for the next before
we meet again?
What?
What do you?
Are you any travel plans on thehorizons?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
yeah, I've got some travel plans, a couple of
exciting trips that I'm lookingforward to.
I'm going to magnetic islandwith my daughter, which is an
island in north queensland, andone.
Something really exciting I'vegot coming up is I'm going to
spend a couple of days sailingon a catamaran around the
Whitsundays Jealous, jealous.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I'm jealous.
I'm really excited about that.
Do you need somebody to comeand skip on the boat?
Speaker 3 (40:15):
I don't know if I can do that, but anyway, what about
you, shelly?
I am exploring some more ofFlorida beaches I just left
Daytona Beach and had awonderful time and historic St
Augustine and I may have acouple other magical things
(40:36):
coming up.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Okay, well, hopefully we'll hear about those in a
future episode.
Um great to always, as always,to chat with you guys and to
catch up yes and uh and, asalways, you can find information
about the apps and whateverplaces we talked about, and
obviously also the real, withshelly and melissa in it.
I'd go and check that out andthe show notes which are at
(40:58):
global travel planningcomforward slash episode 60.
But that leaves us to say untilnext week, from all of us,
happy global travel planning byedon't forget, guys, that you
can also get in touch withmyself, melissa and shelly via
speakpipe.
the link is in the show notesfor every episode.
Get in touch, tell us where youare going next on your travels,
(41:20):
or if you've had some languagefails or some packing fails, or
you want to make somesuggestions for future episodes,
get in touch.
We'd love to hear from you.
And before all you NewZealanders, jump on the episode
and get in touch via Speakpipeand let me know I do realize
that I said jangles instead ofjandals, so jandals are what New
Zealanders call flip-flops.
(41:41):
Yes, I did realize.
But yeah, as I say, get intouch via SpeakPipe.
We love to hear from you, guys.
Thank you for joining us onthis episode of the Global
Travel Planning Podcast.
For more details and links toeverything we discussed today,
check out the show notes atglobaltravelplanningcom.
Remember, if you enjoyed theshow, please consider leaving us
(42:02):
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you.
Anyway, that leaves me to say,as always happy global travel
planning.
What happens when three women from three countries
think they're speaking the samelanguage, but aren't.
In this episode, we're divinginto the everyday mix-ups, menu
fails and awkward travel momentscaused by English not always
meaning the same thing aroundthe world.
Let's just say not everythingmeans what you think it does.
Hi and welcome to the GlobalTravel Planning Podcast.
(00:20):
I'm your host, tracey Collins,who, with my expert guests, will
take you on a weekly journey todestinations around the globe,
providing travel inspiration,itinerary ideas, practical tips
and more to help you plan yournext travel adventure.
Welcome to episode 60 of theGlobal Travel Planner podcast.
(00:47):
This episode, the ladies whotravel are diving into all the
hilarious and sometimesconfusing ways English varies
around the world and how, evenwhen we think we're speaking the
same language, we're often noton the same page.
So we're going to be sharingsome of our top stories of
language mishaps when we travel,how we prepare to travel to
(01:07):
non-English speaking countries,and some tips and tech that can
help smooth things out.
So this chat actually came andwas inspired by a TikTok that
Melissa and Shelley, who arejoining me now, did and shared
recently on TikTok and Instagram.
So, hi guys, hello, hello onTikTok and Instagram.
So, hi guys, hello, hello.
So let's talk about your TikTok.
So what was it?
(01:27):
Let's talk about what is in theTikTok because I'm going to
share it in the show notes.
But let's talk about that andalso just say where we are at
the moment as well, because Iknow everybody likes to know
where we are in the world.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
So I'm back in Brisbane.
Welcome home, tracey.
Thank you.
And Melissa, where are you atthe moment?
Um I'm in brisbane as well, umin my house in brisbane it's
very, very cold.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
It is I'm freezing and we've got shelly who's
sitting there in a t-shirt withthe aircon on, so obviously
you're not somewhere where it'scold no, I'm in sunny florida oh
lucky.
I wish I was to tell you.
So how long are you going to bein Florida?
For I know you've been doing abit of travel around the States.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yes, I'm not quite sure.
Probably maybe four or fiveweeks, I'm not sure yet.
Yeah, enjoying the heat.
Yes, actually I like the heat.
So it's been very sunny andI've been checking out a lot of
the beaches and some historicalsites.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Excellent.
Well, you do a really good jobof avoiding the cold while you
travel.
I haven't done such a good jobthese last 12 months.
I seem to have just gone cold,cold, cold, cold, a bit hot and
then cold again, and thenobviously going to Antarctica on
the air.
I'm not exactly going to go hotthere either.
Anyway, okay, so tell us aboutthe TikTok stroke Instagram reel
(02:48):
that you guys created.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So I was in Australia , spent several weeks in
Australia and Melissa and I metup a couple times and I was
really struggling with.
I thought I was going to anEnglish speaking country and I
was really struggling with.
I thought I was going to anEnglish speaking country and I
was really honestly strugglingwith the language and you know
(03:12):
there's slang for everything.
So I was like I would textMelissa or I text you, or I'd
ask one of your friends in thebuilding.
I'd be like what does this mean?
What does that mean?
Ask one of your friends in thebuilding.
I'd be like what does this mean, what does that mean?
Or I would say something that Ithought meant one thing and
(03:32):
somebody would give me like aweird look or I would get
something strange.
So Melissa and I took a trip toLady Elliot Island, one of the
off of the Great Barrier Reef,and we were just sitting around
the pool one day and I said, youknow she goes hey, how's your
language?
You know, go in.
I said, hey, what about if wejust like film this?
(03:52):
Because I know I am not theonly one struggling with this
and it was just purely improv.
I had no idea what she was goingto ask me and she gave me a pop
quiz.
I think I did pretty good andit just I mean there was like I
want to say close to 10,000views and keep counting, and it
(04:15):
just people really resonatedwith it because, honestly, tracy
, I'm going to say you just textme the other day and I had to
look up the word koft koft.
Koft it means please.
Yes, it means pleased.
I had no idea what that meant.
Oh, choft choft.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
You know, I have to say I know when you said that
when you came to Australia, youwere like you've got English
speaking country, but but, um,but I'm from England, which is
originally where English comesfrom, and when we go to the
States and Australia or anyother English-speaking country,
we kind of go the same.
We're like how did all thesewords, these slang words,
(04:57):
develop?
And I had the same, because Iemigrated to South Africa when I
was a teenager and I was likewhat, I don't know all these
things, what are kopis, copies,what are, what are tackies,
which I'll explain in a bit, butit was, it was a real thing.
So so you did you just come upwith some words then to to give
Shelly Melissa that you kind ofjust went how do you know these
words, what they mean?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I'd kind of remembereda couple that she'd asked me
over the last few days, and so Ikind of said them again and and
as I was saying one word, itmade me think of a different
word and yeah, so I tried to putsome easy ones in and I tried
to put some funny ones in aswell, and, yeah, it was a bit of
fun.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Oh, it's really.
It's a really good, it's areally fun reel, and I will
words that cause confusion, sobetween english-speaking
countries.
So we're thinking at the minute, if you're in the states or in
canada, or you're in new zealandor in australia or in south
africa, or all theenglish-speaking countries in
the world where you go, whatwords cause confusion?
Well, I'm gonna throw in theobvious one when you come to
(05:57):
australia, which is thongs yeah,yeah, you took my word.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
that was was what I was going to say, that has to be
the one.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Obviously, thongs in Australia are what we would call
flip-flops.
Do you call them flip-flops,shelley?
Yes, flip-flops, yes, andthey're called jangles in New
Zealand, which I can kind of gowith a bit weird.
Sorry New Zealanders out there,but it does sound a bit weird,
jan, because thongs in the UKare basically, you know, string
knickers, what?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
in the UK too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're juststring knickers, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
So any British person comes here and somebody says
I'm going to put on my thongs,we kind of go in and no, that's
not what we, we don't imagineyou're putting footwear on.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I didn't know, that was just an Aussie thing.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
I thought, yeah, radio yeah, so we call them
flip-flops, because thongs areknickers, not footwear or yeah,
thongs are, yeah, like g-string,we would call it a g-string,
yeah yeah, um yeah, oh yeah itis a g-string.
I just couldn't think of theword of it.
I just call it knickers.
But you know what I mean stringknickers yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
(07:02):
.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
What?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
other words.
Come on, what other words arethings that cause, like you go
okay, confusion?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I think um, chips and crisps are another one that
confused me only because I hadheard the word crisp and then I
heard the word chips.
But what really threw me washot chips.
So like you go someplace andyou have to order hot chips, but
what's the difference betweenhot chips, crisp and chips?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
so there's like all well, because, like in australia
, you would just say chips orhot chips, wouldn't you?
It would chips, yeah, in the uk, crisps, crisps of the crisps
in a packet, and then it wouldbe um fries, which you will hear
more.
You'll, yeah, definitely hearfries, but chips, hot chips, as
opposed to and I think it's morein australia, because in the uk
(07:51):
you'd say crisps or you'd saychips or fries, but in australia
, I think the differentiationyou kind of need it, they're all
chips yes yeah, see, see, inthe uS you would say french
fries, or you would say potatochips or just chips.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, yeah, I do think it's funny when you're
like you know in the UK and youknow you'll get crisps, like
you'll get crisps with asandwich or something, and I'm
like what?
That's just weird.
That's just weird, like.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I don't know.
Yeah, I know I that it's a bitstrange when you're expecting to
get chips and they put crispson the plate and I've had that.
I'm trying to think where elseI've had that, not just in the
uk, and I'm like, okay, I wasn't, I was expecting it to be chips
in the us.
In the us, sometimes you'll getthat yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's really weird and it'slike sometimes, if it specifies
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on the menu, just chips, you'renot sure, is that hot chips or
is that going to be like crisps?
So that's always a.
That's an interesting one.
Um, come on, think of someother words.
I'm going to mention one that Iscrewed up in australia and I
still have to be careful with.
I'm not going to say what itmeans, but it's, it's very rude.
Um, and in australia they wouldsay the word route, um, which
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is not what we'd say in the uk.
We would say which route areyou going to take?
Well, that isn't a word thatyou would use in australia,
because it's quite rude and Ididn't know that I want to start
with.
So that's kind of my one way.
I went okay, right, I won't usethat word.
It's route.
I was wondering why everybodyin Australia was going the route
and I was like okay, uh but wewould say, we would still say
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route um, but it just it couldmean.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It could mean which way are you going, or it could
mean something else, somethingI've heard route said in
Australia as well, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah maybe but yeah, which route would you go?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
yeah, yeah okay yeah, I think I got in trouble over
that one.
Oh, really while I was there.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yes, on the same line I was gonna say on that same
line, another word.
That's kind of interesting thatwhen I hear americans say it
I'm like, and that's fanny, yes.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yes, that you would not say that in England.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Of course not.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
It has a completely different meaning and I've said
that to quite a few of my NorthAmerican friends.
Like when you say fanny pack,it's like we just kind of go say
it.
I know, because that's morelike very private, private areas
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, right, yes, yes, yes, use it.
And it's like and yeah, so it'snot a word that you would, you
would, we would never use thatword.
It's like, it's like one ofthose, like kind of original on
the roots that you just not rudeword, but just a word that you
wouldn't use in conversation.
No, no.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
But you guys call it a bum pack.
Yeah, yeah, bum bag, bum bag,yeah, bum bag.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, because bums are okay.
Bums are okay Not, and bearingin mind that, like 150, 200
years ago, women got that as aname, I mean like well, even I
remember that there was a veryfamous chef in the uk called
fanny craddock, which alwaysyeah, so I mean, that's it.
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What about, um?
Can you think of any words,american words that you kind of
struggled with when you cameover, or people like if you use
them, they don't know whatyou're talking about?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
uh, well, one of them , I it's not so much just over
there, but when you go into aplace and I always would say, oh
, can you tell me where therestroom is?
And and they, they look at meso like if you're in one country
it's called a water closet andwhich always perplexed me
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because I'm like I picture acloset just full of water.
But the other thing is mostcountries just call it a toilet.
So one time I asked somebodyI'm like why is restroom not
used?
Is restroom not used?
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Well, they differentiate.
They told me a restroom or abathroom is considered someplace
with a shower in it, not just atoilet.
So I don't know.
Now I'm kind of used to askingfor a toilet.
But then when I come back tothe us I'm like where's the
toilet?
They look at me like I'm cringeor something.
They're're just like eww.
But you know, kind of crude.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
I have to say it's one of Doug's pet peeves.
He really, really dislikes theterm restroom and he's like I'm
not going for a rest why wouldyou want a restroom?
He's not here Because I know hewould pop in at this point and
say why do you want a restroom?
Honestly, that's one of his.
He's like.
I don't get that.
I don't understand that.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah .
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I mean, where does water closet come from?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, that's really weird, hey, yeah, no, that's I
never.
You never hear that If youtranslate it into French, though
.
So if you were in Paris and youwant to go to a toilet, a
toilet you would say uh, whichis wc, where's the toilet?
Okay, um, I don't think you'dhear it so much in.
In english, we just say where's, where's the loo, where's the
bog, where's the toilet?
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Do you know those?
Yeah, bog is another one.
It might, that's very slang.
Uh, where's the loo is, but notrestroom, because it just
sounds a bit, a bit odd yeah,yeah, but that's one that's very
common all around the world.
Those three you know.
So yeah, I've noticed a lot morecountries that are like.
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I guess a lot of countries inasia were using the term
restroom as well.
We saw that far more in asiaand europe.
You'd probably get um WC,bathroom, toilet, rather than
restroom.
But that's definitely theinfluence of um American, the
American English um, on ondifferent places which you see
depending on, because obviouslydifferent countries in the world
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value British English, AmericanEnglish, Australian.
It depends what they're closestto.
I guess it's because I know Iused to teach English as a
foreign language, so there'scertain accents and certain
because they want that languagebecause of the whatever business
they're going to do or whateverat school.
So I think that's, yeah, it'svery interesting.
But I mean, do you change yourvocabulary depending on who
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you're talking to or do you justkeep like using your own
Australianisms, Britishisms?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I definitely change the way I speak.
I know I think you know we'relucky, if you want to call it,
in that we're brought up onAmerican TV and movies and stuff
.
So it's very easy for us or methat we know what the American
words are and so we change them.
And for me, I often haveinternational students stay with
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me in my house Asian studentsand I do notice that when I
speak to them I'll try reallyhard not to use any slang and
speak in very clear, basicEnglish.
So yeah, I'm very mindful of it.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, Well, I think you have to be for us too, and
because everything ends with ano the fish show at the savo and
the I don't know we had.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
We had the abo and the abro and the agro and yeah,
we had that whole that wholewatch.
Watch the TikTok.
Yes, no, yeah.
What I find interesting is whenI go to other places as an
American I try to leave out alot of words Because for
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grammar-wise, we add so manydifferent grammar words,
conjunctions that add, we add somuch where other countries, I
don't think they get to thepoint faster okay, okay and so
when I go someplace, I just tryto make my point, like you know,
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like tell me or explain.
I just try to simplify it asquickly as I can with the fewest
words possible.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
And that segues really usefully into kind of the
next section, where we'retalking about that is that when
we go to countries where Englishisn't widely spoken and I mean
we have been incredibly spoiledand that majority of places
around the world you know thatyou can get by in English.
But I think that has translatedinto making us quite lazy when
it comes to learning otherlanguages and we kind of take it
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for granted we're going to goto places that will at least be
able to get by in English, buthow do you prepare and like, how
do you deal with it?
Like?
So you say, shelley, you try tosimplify your English, because
I think that that's a good pointas well.
And you know, not using flowerylanguage or any slang, when you
were in any country wherepeople don't speak English, what
do you do, melissa, to?
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I know you, particularly, arevery, very good at this yeah, I
just really like to try reallyhard to.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Um, you know, like you said, we're very lucky that
we speak English, but I don'twant to be one of those
travelers that just expect that.
Oh well, they're gonna, they'regoing to understand me.
So I always there's three wordsthat I always learn wherever I
go, and that's hello, please,and thank you.
A lot of the times I'm quitelucky because hello can be hello
or hi, but they're the threewords that I always learn and I
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mean they're very simple, but Ifind if I learn those three
words and I can say hello tosomeone, I can say thank you,
and then I might just do a lotof pointing in them in between,
but then and always have areally big smile on my face and
I always find generally peopleare happy to communicate with me
and what about?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I know you, I've been with you to Thailand and you
were very good and also very um.
I guess there's one tip I'd saylater is also like, even if you
only would use a few words isto use them, because I think we
get a bit shy and about whathappens to say incorrectly or um
, and it's actually just.
You just have to go for it, Ithink you just have to learn
those phrases and the responseyou get is always so warm and
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welcoming.
made that um, and I know, when Iwas with you in Puglia last
year Shelley, you're Italian Iwas like, wow, like you, you
could communicate really well inItalian.
So obviously you, you didItalian lessons.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yes, I was very fortunate that one of my dear
friends, fabiana, and I hadanother couple of friends.
I was very immersed witheveryone, but Fabiana and a
couple other friends actuallygave me some book lessons.
And then I did something that Idon't know some travelers might
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want to try is, maybe a coupleweeks before you leave those
important words, like Melissasaid, and then maybe a few more,
I put sticky notes, I wrotethem down and I put the word it
doesn't matter what language, Iput the word and then the
meaning underneath and I putthem on my bathroom mirror, I
put them on the front door, Iput them where I cook, I put
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them all over and then you'rekind of like looking at them
constantly.
So I don't know, subconsciously, you're kind of taking it in.
So it's not like you're sittingdown book studying.
So yeah, but I will say I donot have the accent or pronounce
the words.
I still massacre the language.
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But I try, I try and I dounderstand them.
I understand so much more thanI could speak, so that's good.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And I think, as I say , it's having a go is kind of
important and the response youget.
What about kind of nonverbalcommunication?
Because in some places that isjust as important as
understanding the kind of verballanguage that's spoken.
Um, do you, do you look up kindof cultural etiquette around
communication or gestures,because I know there's some,
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some gestures that we might usethat in some european countries.
I think no.
I think it's greece where it'sactually quite rude on
particular hand, which it mightbe okay in another country, but
it's actually rude there.
Um, and I know there's some.
There's some other countrieswhere you've got to like what we
would.
You know, if you go to France,for example, you'll kiss people
on either cheek Well, I wouldn'tgo to some countries and do
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that and I'm thinking about,like you know, going to some
countries like South Korea orJapan where you take your shoes
off.
That again is kind of you know,you're communicating your kind
of respect and understanding theculture by doing that.
But is there any other onesthat you can kind of think of or
expand on?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I just kind of like, observe and um and follow suit
as much as I I can.
Um, yeah, like I'm a bigbeliever, I'm in their country
or I'm in their house and I wantto be respectful and, and, and
you know, do what what everyoneelse is doing and not just be
like, well, I'm in their countryor I'm in their house and I
want to be respectful and and,and, you know, do what what
everyone else is doing and notjust be like, well, I'm just
going to do my thing yeah, Iagree, I agree.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I was going to say another one for um, anybody
visiting the UK and this is a,this is a huge one for for us
Brits is that we are very, verygood at queuing or lining up oh,
yeah, so we take you.
You guys say lining up in thestates.
I know well if you, if you jumpa queue in the uk, we won't say
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anything necessarily to you butyou will get the stare.
You know, if you watchpaddington bay you know when
paddington gives that stare,that's what you will get from
all the British people in thatqueue going.
They cannot believe that youhave jumped the line or you
jumped.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
That reminds me, do you remember, tracy, when we
went to India and our guide saidto us about queuing, and she
said that if there's a spacebetween you and the person in
front of it, then someone willtake that space?
Yes, it's true, you have tokind of go, yeah's true, yeah,
it was yeah and it's fine.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
it's like then you have to kind of not get annoyed
because in britain or inaustralia you wouldn't do that,
but then go to another cultureand it's like it's.
I remember actually being indisneyland, paris, with my mom
and we're queuing at the toiletsand and a lady walked in, just
walked straight into the nexttoilet.
My mother was absolutelyapoplectic.
I still remember it.
At the time she was like butI've been standing in this queue
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, that person didn't care.
Wherever they come from, itdoesn't matter, there's a space,
you just go for it.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I found that really hard in India, the whole space
thing and people like right upclose to you and you're like
okay this is normal, melissa.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Okay, this is normal, melissa, this is normal.
It's like the personal spacething when it's like when you
used to have like a half a meterbetween you, go to a culture
where that that doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
It's kind of it's trying to adapt to that as well
for what you're used to well,and I'll say, in southeast asia
it's kind of the same thing,maybe not to the same extent,
but also in a lot of the Asiancountries.
Waving, like you know you seein the movies or I don't know
how it is in Australia, but tohail a cab or wave for a cab,
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you know, you wave your hand.
Well, that, that thatdisrespectful, they don't do
that.
They hold their hand down andthey gesture down versus waving,
because they find the palm ofyour hand up as like a
disrespectful gesture.
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And same with queuing in SouthKorea, same with queuing in
Thailand, korea, same withqueuing in Thailand and also on
the trains.
I don't know, I don't remember.
On the UK, I believe it may bethe same way, but eating or
drinking in you know Malaysia,you know other countries, they
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don't really eat and drink.
They may bring food on there,but they don't eat or drink.
And it's not.
It's because of respect for theother person, because if
they're hungry or they'rethirsty, they don't want to eat
or drink in front of them.
You know, out of respect.
It's not so much.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
You know you can't, so it's things like that no,
it's really interesting to kindof think about those and be
aware of them, and I get asked alot um on the uk travel
planning site and about about alot from north americans coming
over to the uk.
Particularly what, what couldthey do not to stand out?
And it's and.
(24:27):
And the first thing that Iwould say and this is no
disrespect for any northamericans listening is that tend
to you tend to be able to heara north american accent voice
before you see the person,because they tend to be a little
bit like now I'm a pretty loudperson.
I won't say this, so I'm loud.
But um, north americans havegot a reputation, um, I shall
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say um, people from the USparticularly have a reputation
for being quite loud.
So I don't know, shelley, assomebody from the US, how do you
feel about that?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Actually, I will agree, I will agree, and it
really depends I won't sayeveryone, but I will agree, and
especially from certain states.
Ah, okay, well, I could justsay that From certain states.
You know, there's some southernstates that are extremely loud,
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there's some eastern, northernstates that are very loud.
So yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I totally agree with that and is that I guess when
when you're at home in thestates and you're in that your
particular states that you'refrom and that's the kind of
cultural norm that it's you'requite loud, exuberant, then
that's just how you are.
I think it's then reading theroom, perhaps when you're on a
tube train in London orsomewhere else, that actually
people don't necessarily, you'llsee that people don't either
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talk, don't even talk, won'tmake eye contact, so it's kind
of then keeping your voice down.
I know in Japan even talking onthe train is frowned upon.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
And that's what I mean where it goes state to
state, because a lot of thestates not all of them,
obviously, but a lot of thestates don't have a lot of mass
transportation.
So we're kind of a car culture,you know, similar to you go to
New York or you go to many, youknow eastern country, you know
states, or you go to the WestCoast or you know middle America
.
Some states have really goodtransportation.
(26:39):
Chicago they have greattransportation that you know,
where they're a little bitquieter, they're a little bit,
you know, more respectful.
You know they don't talk asloud, but then you may go to
other places that there are carculture and I think it comes
from that.
Uh, you know, going out,socializing, kind of competition
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type.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
You know, like you said, exuberuberance, you know
the thing that we all do andwe're all conscious of doing is
kind of is reading the room, ispreparing before you go, and
also when you're there, is kindof checking out what.
What are other people doing?
Because you, you know you don'twant to stand out, you want to,
you do want to fit in.
You, you know, nobody wants togo to a place and have everybody
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looking at them because they'redoing the wrong thing.
So it's about kind of lookingaround, following that and being
aware of your environment, andI think you do that.
If you're in a place where youare genuinely kind of wanting to
learn about the culture andabout the people, you make that
effort, don't you?
Because that's what you want todo.
That's where you are Now.
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What about um tech?
When you travel, how do you?
I was recently in japan and incambodia and vietnam and I could
not have done, uh, withoutgoogle translate it was my go-to
, so is that?
is that something that you guysuse?
Yeah, I do Translate.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I just think it's amazing.
You know, for people who don'tknow like you can, you can talk
into it and then it will spitout in the language that you
need it to.
It's absolutely amazing and Ijust want to give you an example
of how I've used it.
Everyone who's listening knowsI've broken my foot a couple of
times.
Last time I was by myself and Iwas in a taxi and, um, and
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trying to explain that I wantedto go to the hospital and I and
I couldn't do it, and you knowit was in Spain, he didn't speak
English.
I didn't speak any Spanish, soI used Google Translate and we
were like back and forth and itwas amazing.
And this taxi driver, so sweet,he actually went in and he, he
told the hospital what was goingon.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
So, um, but yeah, google translate for the win,
and not only that.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
But you can also take photos on it and it will uh
spit out a sign in your languageor a menu, or yeah, google
translate, it's so good yeah, Iuse it.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I use it constantly.
I like downloading thelanguages before I go to the
country or while I'm in thecountry so I can use it offline,
in case I don't have internet.
Also, I like using it in thegrocery stores because you can
use your camera and hold it upto the ingredients, because then
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you can look in real time andsee oh, does this contain fish
nuts?
Whatever you know, so you knowwhat you're eating, because
sometimes you can't tell.
But, yeah, definitely I.
I have gotten out of manysituations with google Translate
.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
I think it's absolute genius because I struggled, as
everybody knows, in Japan tofind things that I wanted to eat
and I found having that andjust holding it up and
translating the menu or in the7-Eleven, exactly what was in
the food Because I avoid fish itwas just really helpful.
And I, doug and I went to awedding in cambodia and, um,
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having the ability to do theverbal talk into it and then it
it, then translate it andverbally then say it to the
people we're sharing the tablewith, was really useful.
And then it was going backwardsand forward.
It was so much fun because,like we would record it, then
play it and then they would saysomething.
Then it was going backwards andforwards.
It was so much fun because,like we would record it, then
play it and then they would saysomething and then it would play
it back to us in English.
I mean it's amazing and I canthink of when I first started
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travelling on my own in the 80sand there was nothing like that.
There was nothing.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
We have a book, do you remember?
I used to always buy the book,the Planet Praise book, and I
can picture now you know you'dsit in the menu, sorry, sit in a
restaurant, and you'd be liketalking to the waiter and you'd
be like looking for black tea.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah, it's so much easier now, tracy let me ask you
, since, since you spent time inCambodia, let me ask you and
Melissa, what does when you handsomebody some money and they
say it's broken?
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Ah, it means that it's got.
So in Cambodia you've got tomake sure that there's no tear
or rip or fold in the in thenote or writ or fold in the in
the note.
Uh, because they can't acceptit.
And I asked I was in one shopand it won, it was a dollar note
because they accept dollars, usdollars.
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And it had a little uh tear orlittle nick in it and and they
went oh, the bank won't acceptit, so they won't take it.
Because I was like what shemeans broken?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
that's.
That's what happened to me.
I landed and then they doaccept their currency and us
dollars.
So I I went to go pay and theperson handed me back the bill
and they said I'm sorry, this isbroken.
I was like what?
Like it's broken, and I'mlooking at it like what?
What are you talking?
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What's broken?
But you're absolutely right, ithad like a little crease in it.
But fast forward, over a monthI found out that from a local
that they will accept it if theyknow you and it's not like
ripped or torn.
The funny part of it is, ifyou're in the us, I mean that
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thing would have to bedemolished for somebody not to
take it.
It could be taped, it could bewhatever, and somebody is going
to take that bill.
So I thought it was funny.
Once I found out what thatmeant, I'm like really.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
So that's a really good, you know if anybody's
traveling there and they thatyou know, you, you don't know
what you mean is broken.
Exactly that's exactly what Imean about that different use of
language.
To describe something like well, broken would mean something
completely different to us.
But yeah, it's a, it's anunusable note.
But what about?
Have have either of you had anykind of funny fails when you've
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tried you know've tried to usewhat you thought was appropriate
language and you've got itwrong?
Or have you generally found ithaving a go has worked and it's
generally been pretty smooth?
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I can't think of any real fat fails.
You know, I find you know, aslong as you say everything with
a smile and you give it a go,people are just really friendly
and you'll work it out.
I've never had a drama, I'vealways worked it out.
That's great.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
The one time I oh sorry, shelley, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
No, I haven't had like an epic fail, well not that
I can remember offhand, but inItaly they have.
I don't eat meat, so I wantedlike a veggie pizza.
So I said I would like peppersand this and that on it.
And so they were like, oh, okay, and then they brought out the
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thing.
And they didn't bring it outyet, but they were saying, okay,
we give you pepperoni and this.
And that I'm like, no, no, no,I don't want pepperoni.
Well, evidently they callpeppers pepperoni and it was
this.
So it kind of was like back andforth Like I didn't know that,
like you know, peppers werepepperoni and it.
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Yeah, it was kind of funny onceI figured it out.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
So I don't know.
And I remember um for me, um.
So I moved to France a longtime ago like 1988, I think it
was so quite a few years ago nowand I'd I'd done a little bit
of French, but um, and I learnedit very quick.
Within six months I was, I wascompletely fluent, which was
great.
But I remember when I first gotthere, the grandparent of the
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family come on a visit and inFrance, to show respect to
somebody you don't know who'solder than you, use the word
vous rather than to for you, theword you, as in when you're
saying would you like a cup oftea, for example, and I use to,
which is the familiar term andquite disparate, like not
disrespectful, but it'ssomething I shouldn't have done,
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and he was okay about it.
But I remember at the time Ithink cringing and thinking, oh,
I've just used to and I shoulduse view and I didn't want to be
disrespectful.
So I was like I'm really,really sorry about it, but it,
things like that, that just thatcan, can trip you up when you,
you know, I was like oh, and Imean I'm thinking in because I
speak french.
But I'll tell you what in parissometimes it's, it's pointless
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me even speaking french, becauseas soon as they pick up that um
, I'm not a native frenchspeaker, they're just switching
english and kind of look downthe nose sometimes the way it is
that you're like okay, sosometimes I think you know what,
even though speak the language.
I'm not going to attempt itbecause the response I'm going
to get is not going to beparticularly friendly.
But I guess that's somewherelike Paris where they used to
(35:50):
lots of people massacring thelanguage a lot of the times and
maybe don't have as muchtolerance.
But generally I find, whereverI've been around the world,
having a few words just opens alot of doors and definitely gets
a friendly response.
Just opens a lot of doors anddefinitely gets a friendly
response.
But what would be your top tipsfor dealing with language
differences while travelling?
(36:10):
What would be the one thingthat you would suggest, melissa?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I would suggest making sure you've got Google
Translate on your phone.
My view is learning a couple ofwords like hello, please, and
thank you, and alwayscommunicating, um you know, with
a big smile and being friendlyto people, it gets you a long
way, absolutely.
What about you, shelly?
Speaker 3 (36:31):
uh, I agree with melissa.
Um, I would just piggyback offof that.
As far as google translate,it's imperative that you
download the language before youknow when you have Wi-Fi,
because so many places havespotty Wi-Fi and you don't want
to get stuck in a taxi or a busstation or something and not
(36:54):
have Google Translate.
And I would say, too, whatMelissa said earlier.
I would say, too, what Melissasaid earlier you know you are in
their country, you are a guestin their country, so you know,
if you notice a sign of respectis just, you know, kind of to
nod or let an elder go ahead infront of you or not eat on the
(37:19):
train, or, you know, be a littlebit more quiet.
It's something.
Just show respect.
And the last thing I would sayis speak slower.
Speak slower and enunciate yourwords, because, like myself, I
don't think I have an accent,but I do, I do.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I do I do.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
None of us.
None of us really think we havean accent.
But to the people that we'respeaking to, you know, in
different countries, not only dowe have another accent, but
we're speaking a differentlanguage and it's usually their
second language.
So I find people tell me thatthey could understand me better
(38:02):
if I, if I speak slower my tipis just to have a go.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Learn some other words and have a go just go for
it because I know, um, it can be.
You know, you have that littlebit of oh.
I don't want to make a mistakeand get it wrong.
Um, I have to say I'm going toshout out for Doug here, because
, doug, he went to do some workin Wales a couple years ago and
his Welsh is still excellent.
He still will speak, he stillknows the words of Welsh and
it's amazing.
I'm like, well, there you go,and he went and he spoke his
(38:30):
Welsh and it went down really,really well.
Um, I would say 99.9% of thetime, if you learn the phrases
and have a go, you'll get abrilliant response yeah well.
Thank you, ladies, for joiningme again for this episode of the
podcast.
It's been great to chat withyou, as always, and next episode
will be episode 65, becausethere's actually five Wednesdays
(38:51):
in July, so that means fiveepisodes of the Global Travel
Plan podcast and, as always, thelast one of the month is us
guys chatting, so that'll beepisode 65.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
We're going to talk about food.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yes, my favorite subject.
Well, it's gonna be aninteresting one because I I
struggle a little bit, as when Itravel.
So, um, and I will try lots offood, but I have lots of foods
that I don't like, so I that canbe an issue.
So we'll talk about that.
And we'll talk about how you'rea vegetarian shelly, how you
deal with that, and then melissaI think you're pretty
adventurous with what you'll try, so we'll talk about how you're
a vegetarian shelly, how youdeal with that, and then melissa
I think you're prettyadventurous with what you'll try
, so we'll talk about.
We'll talk about those things.
(39:29):
And also, when you used totravel with, with your daughter
as well, how you how you dealtwith that, because, um, you know
, travel with children as wellcan can come with its challenges
when it comes to food.
But anyway, so what do you guysgot planned for the next before
we meet again?
What?
What do you?
Are you any travel plans on thehorizons?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
yeah, I've got some travel plans, a couple of
exciting trips that I'm lookingforward to.
I'm going to magnetic islandwith my daughter, which is an
island in north queensland, andone.
Something really exciting I'vegot coming up is I'm going to
spend a couple of days sailingon a catamaran around the
Whitsundays Jealous, jealous.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I'm jealous.
I'm really excited about that.
Do you need somebody to comeand skip on the boat?
Speaker 3 (40:15):
I don't know if I can do that, but anyway, what about
you, shelly?
I am exploring some more ofFlorida beaches I just left
Daytona Beach and had awonderful time and historic St
Augustine and I may have acouple other magical things
(40:36):
coming up.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Okay, well, hopefully we'll hear about those in a
future episode.
Um great to always, as always,to chat with you guys and to
catch up yes and uh and, asalways, you can find information
about the apps and whateverplaces we talked about, and
obviously also the real, withshelly and melissa in it.
I'd go and check that out andthe show notes which are at
(40:58):
global travel planningcomforward slash episode 60.
But that leaves us to say untilnext week, from all of us,
happy global travel planning byedon't forget, guys, that you
can also get in touch withmyself, melissa and shelly via
speakpipe.
the link is in the show notesfor every episode.
Get in touch, tell us where youare going next on your travels,
(41:20):
or if you've had some languagefails or some packing fails, or
you want to make somesuggestions for future episodes,
get in touch.
We'd love to hear from you.
And before all you NewZealanders, jump on the episode
and get in touch via Speakpipeand let me know I do realize
that I said jangles instead ofjandals, so jandals are what New
Zealanders call flip-flops.
(41:41):
Yes, I did realize.
But yeah, as I say, get intouch via SpeakPipe.
We love to hear from you, guys.
Thank you for joining us onthis episode of the Global
Travel Planning Podcast.
For more details and links toeverything we discussed today,
check out the show notes atglobaltravelplanningcom.
Remember, if you enjoyed theshow, please consider leaving us
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a review on your favoritepodcast app, because your
feedback helps us reach moretravel enthusiasts, just like
you.
Anyway, that leaves me to say,as always happy global travel
planning.
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