July 17, 2024 • 50 mins
Can the American dream be revived? Esteemed author and social theorist Cynthia Elliott joins us to dissect how unchecked capitalism and corporate greed have unraveled the fabric of American society. From the golden years of post-World War II prosperity to the stark economic challenges faced by today's middle and lower classes, we navigate the disheartening realities of skyrocketing costs and diminishing opportunities. Cynthia's insights offer a critical lens on the alarming disparity in CEO and worker pay, the offshoring of jobs, and the pressing need for real, solution-focused dialogues to revitalize the American dream.
We delve into the erosion of corporate patriotism and how globalization has shifted priorities, often to the detriment of the American workforce. Cynthia and I discuss the urgent need for strategic use of technology and transparent conversations to address these issues head-on. From the struggles young people face in affording homes to the long-term impacts of corporate decisions driven by profit motives, this episode underscores the importance of recognizing these systemic problems and fostering a collective effort to revive a vision for America's future.
Finally, we explore the broader implications of economic inequality and political corruption, emphasizing uniting beyond partisan divides. As we discuss the rise of AI and its potential to either exacerbate inequality or foster a more inclusive society, Cynthia highlights the critical need for ethical technology integration. Reflect
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
I've always thought of the American dream as the
heart and soul of the country.
Boy has our soul taken abeating in recent years.
Things are a bit of a mess, youknow.
I thought after the closuresthat the corporations would step
up to take care of people, butwhat we've seen is a shocking
level of greed and corruption.
It's crushed the middle class,decimated the lower classes and
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brought people to their knees,and rightfully they're angry.
But you know what?
We stand on the edge of, theage of AI, an industrial
revolution that we can actuallyget in front of.
We can engineer and design anew America through intelligent
and strategic use of technology.
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I truly believe that is the wayforward.
It is the way to provide hopeto our younger generations and
to reignite the American dream.
The American Dream.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Hello, I'm Weta Duncan and I'm here with Cynthia
Elliott, author, philanthropistand AI advocate.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And we're here, to talk about her passion and her
purpose, and we hope you enjoythis conversation.
Hi Weta, so good to see you Allright.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
So when we talked about having this discussion, I
was really excited, becausethere are a couple of things
that I knew that you had on yourmind, that you wanted to talk
about, and one of them wasactually about the American
dream and how it's evading us ina significant way.
(01:45):
First of all, where did you getthis desire to really focus on
that issue and why is that issueso important to you?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Well, as an author and social theorist, I've been
writing for a few years nowabout the issues that we're
struggling with in America, inparticular, when they're global.
Many of them are global issues,but particularly here in
America and in my sharing withother people about the issues, I
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started to really see that thatnot only were a lot of people
not aware of what a lot of thefrustrations were leading to,
but that the issues weren'tbeing addressed in any any
serious and profound manner.
They were.
They had been turned, ourissues had been turned into
soundbites, and that was doingnothing but perpetuating a level
of fear in culture and insociety that isn't helping
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anybody.
And and so you know, I decidedthat it was important to share a
perspective that the Americandream is dead and that it needs
a revitalization, and that's atruth that we have to accept.
And for us to be able to createsolutions, we have to have an
honest conversation about how werevitalize the American dream
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especially for youngergenerations.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Say more about the obituary of the American dream,
more about the obituary of theAmerican Dream.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
So it's interesting.
You know the American Dream isreally rooted in post-World War
II America.
We came back from the war, wewere heroes and a lot of the
technology and progress that wemade because of the war and
that's sadly one of the effectsof war led to a lot of
prosperity in America.
You know, we were really on topof the world in the 1950s and
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60s, but as capitalism began toingrain itself in that same
system, we saw an increase incorporate greed and we have
consistently seen an increase incorporate greed since the 1970s
to the point where now they'rejust blatantly not caring about
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America in the way that we didin post-World War II America.
You know, the American dreamwas possible in the 50s and 60s
because corporations took somelevel of care with how they
treated people and what theirdecisions caused to happen in
this country, and because ourpoliticians are really on the
payroll of corporations, we'veled it's led us to a system
where we're now in 2024 and wehave uh generations of young
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people who do not have a ladderdecline because the cost of of
the hierarchy of needs is out ofcontrol.
And to to be able to addressall of that, as well as
seriously important issues likethe mental health crisis.
I think we have to be willingto have these conversations out
loud and fearlessly.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
When you talk about how America was seen in the 50s
and even the 60s, you know we'recoming back from post-World War
II.
You know the reconstruction ofEurope, the wealth that America
gained from selling arms and allof the things that America did
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to get themselves or ourselvesfully involved in freeing people
from Nazi determination andtrying to, you know, overtake
all of Europe.
What, where did we get lost?
And you talked about corporategreed.
What happened to the Americansoul?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, I'm glad that you brought it up like that,
because that's how I refer to itis that the American dream is
the soul of the country andwe've lost our soul.
It's been a slow death of thesoul, particularly since the
1970s.
So if you go back to the 1970s,you begin to see, particularly
on graphs, you begin to see thisseparation between how the
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workers of America were beingtreated versus how corporations
were paying their top levelexecutives, and the cost of
goods parallels with that.
And so over time, since the1970s, ceo pay and top executive
pay has increased 1,400, 1,600percent, while workers' pay has
not kept up even close.
And when you add to that thefact that the corporations
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really are running and makingthe decisions in the country,
they have consistently utilizedour political system to move the
pieces of puzzle around tobenefit the wealthiest in the
country and the most powerfulcompanies in the country.
Many of them are globalcompanies.
And so it's led us to a placewhere we shipped our jobs out of
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the country.
We shipped our manufacturingcapabilities out of the country,
we shipped our independence outof the country, we lost a lot
of our blue collar jobs, andthen we shipped a ton of our
white collar jobs out of thecountry when the tech boom
happened, and so now Americafinds itself in 2024 with almost
.
It's almost like a falseeconomy in a lot of ways,
because so much of what we hadbefore is now gone.
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And how do we get that back?
How do we create new jobs?
How do we stop the hemorrhagingand becomes a maker of things
again?
We have to be able to supportourselves as a country, and we
can't do that right now, as wesaw during the coronavirus.
It was very challenging, sothere's a lot of work to be done
, but I do believe there's hope.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
So hope.
That was the Obama campaign,right, Hope and change.
And you talked about howcorporate corporations have
basically not only taken thereins of the political structure
but they're not controllingthat structure and making
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decisions that are solely selfself, selffiting or
self-fulfilling.
Yeah, and something elsehappened right before the soul
kind of got pulled out ofAmerica with the Vietnam War and
the loss of trust in theAmerican government the loss of
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trust in the American government, and you talked about
corporations.
You know, and basically youknow the power that they have,
and I remember it was MittRomney that said corporations
are people, right, so whathappened?
What do you think happened tomake corporations so focused on
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profits versus people?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I think that goes back to to our uh stocks, the
way our stock system is done,and the fact that ceos job and
role and their ability to makemoney all became about pleasing
their stockholders, theirinvestors, and they stopped
caring about the customer.
Their number one goal was toplease people who had the
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biggest vested interest in them,and those people were telling
them basically what they wantedthem to do, which was make sure
I make more money and we have avery small.
Like a lot of people don'tunderstand this, because we hear
so much about stocks on thenews, but less than 10% of the
country owns over 90% of allstocks, so the majority of
people have almost no interestin the stock market at all,
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which means that a very smallpercentage of the country
actually controls a vastmajority of the companies that
have any influence in thiscountry.
And because our politicalsystem allows corporations to
basically sponsor politiciansand then tell them what they
want them to do.
Over time we've had this justcomplete destruction of a system
where patriotism post-World WarII there was a patriotism in
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corporations where they feltthat they needed to and also
they got called out if theyweren't supporting America and
the American dream and how topush America forward and, as
we've seen, you know,globalization.
These companies that are herearen't really just here, they're
all over the world.
So their interest really isn'tin being good, patriotic
companies, even if they startedhere in America.
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And so they, between the whothey're trying to please, the
influence they have overpolitics and and the fact that
their number one goal is to makeas much money as possible, they
are making decisions that arelong-term destructive, as we're
seeing right now.
You know, in two years,groceries have gone up 50% and
we're wondering why our youngpeople can't afford apartments,
they can't afford homes, theycan't afford cars, they can't
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get good full-time jobs,especially with any kind of
benefits or pay, because thoseall got got sent away in place
of the 401k that was supposed tomake everything awesome.
You know, there's just beenthis systematic destruction and
if you go back to say I thinkit's Reagan is when we really
see the disintegration, uh,there there's.
We began that and I I actuallylike Reaganagan as a president,
(10:23):
but he did bring usher in thisera of pleasing, um, the biggest
companies and, uh, the trickledown theory, yeah, and and so um
, over time, that that whole uh,um, hot mess if you will, I'd
like to call it something reallyformal but it's just really
been a hot mess of bad decisionsthat were made to please people
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who have the most power, moneyand control, and we know this on
a fundamental level.
But it's just really been a hotmess of bad decisions that were
made to please people who havethe most power, money and
control, and we know this on afundamental level.
But it's hard for us to sort ofpinpoint.
And at this point it's come tothe, to the place where
America's, we're sick, our soulis.
You know, we're experiencingthe death of the American dream,
which is the soul of thecountry, and for us to get our
soul back, we need to create anew American dream, and to do
that we have to be willing tojust say these are facts.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
That's such a great point you bring up.
Because when I think about thedifferent factors, whether it's
political, economic, social,technological, in the judicial
space excuse my tongue twistedversion of that that rebuilding
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the American dream and gettingpeople to really have a
conversation, a realconversation about what's wrong
with America, and I'm sensing assomeone who wasn't born here
right, and I'm sensing assomeone who wasn't born here
right, and coming here back inthe 70s with my family was kind
of an interesting experience andyou know we can talk about that
further if you would like, butas an outsider, looking in and
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looking at what made sense andthen things that just didn't
make sense right, living in oneof the richest countries in the
world, yet there was so muchpoverty.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, richest countries, it's like you mean
the 5%, 10% that own mosteverything.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
But in terms of the GDP, right.
And what?
The economy?
How many tens of trillions ofdollars that is circulating in
the economy, right?
So when you talk about the soulof America being sick and that
we have to come to the newAmerican dream, how do we open
up those conversations forpeople to hear?
People are so siloed right now.
Everyone is in their own mediasilo and the media buckets.
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They're not necessarily open tolistening to each other,
because the people in thepolitical class understand,
especially those who are tryingto manipulate certain segments
of the population and how theypress on those fears.
They press on the pluralisticsociety and the multi-racial
society that America is becoming.
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So how do you open up aconversation to people who
really don't feel the same waythat you do and don't want to
hear what you have to say?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I think it's about focusing on solutions, about
highlighting.
I think when I started an eventseries called Sound Bites to
Solutions, because this is soimportant to me, we have to get
away from sound bites.
Sound bites are being used tokeep people living in fear and
anxiety and stress, and thatallows people to take advantage
of large swaths of the country.
Um, I think it's by continuingto, to repeat repetition that's
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all that's education isrepeating that we need to be in
solution mode.
We have some pretty seriousissues.
I will say that I have a lot ofhope now.
Three years ago, um, I didn't,because I was trying to have
conversations with people about,about things that I was quite
shocked and appalled by.
Going back to about four yearsago, I was trying to have these
really important conversationsto say this is actually a
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serious issue, and I couldn'tget people to even have that
conversation at all.
But in the last two years, we'veseen a real shift in that,
particularly on social mediaplatforms, which is one of the
reasons why politicians want toget control of things like
Twitter and TikTok or X andTikTok, because they're
terrified of the honesty that'sactually happening on those
platforms.
I think that when you start toscrew with people.
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It's one thing when the world,when the country's doing pretty
good, but when the middle classis dying and it's it's dying
people can't afford luxuries.
That's the definition of middleclass.
When the middle class is dyingand the lower income classes are
getting crushed and you startto see a disintegration in
people's hierarchy of needsbeing met, you get people.
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That's French revolution kindof, uh of energy, and that is
actually where we're at.
So I think if we're going tohave this conversation now, is
the going to have thisconversation?
Now is the time to have thisconversation about revitalizing
the American dream.
I mean, just, you know we'rehaving honest conversations
about things like politics and,uh, corporate greed and the fact
that politicians can invest inthe stock market, something
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where they oversee thesecorporations.
These are major issues thatcontribute to all of this.
So I actually have a lot ofhope that there are a lot more
people who are willing to listenand say, look, I'm seeing a lot
of content to saying you knowwhat?
I don't care about being blueor red, we've got issues.
So it gives me hope.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Well, I'm glad and I want to come back to this in a
few minutes but I want to talkto you about going back to when
the middle class was created,when Henry Ford for all of his
faults, you know, because he wasa Nazi sympathizer and
supporter but he understood thatif he's going to manufacture
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cars, that his workers need tobe able to afford to buy those
cars, and that's how you kind ofkickstart the economy by having
people be able to afford yourproducts, right?
And we know that the federalminimum wage is about $7.25 an
hour.
This administration, the Bidenadministration, is trying to get
it up to $15 an hour, and thatthis administration is very
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pro-union and the unions arethose jobs, are the ones that
are a majority middle-class jobs, right?
So you talked about the socialmedia platforms and how we
control information.
So that's another economy thatwe need to talk about, and we
also are noticing that AI isactually playing a role in how
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information is disseminated andhow it's distributed and how
it's altered and how the truthis becoming a lie and the lies
becoming the truth.
Can you talk to to us about that?
And, you know, going back tobringing people to the table,
getting them to separate fromtheir their labels.
(16:41):
Right, the most powerful labelsare the left and right.
Right now that's left, right,red, blue.
They're like swords.
Right, they're becoming weapons.
How do you get people to hearyou when they're in a media echo
chamber?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, and I'm happy to say that mass media's numbers
have been dying for years nowbecause people have been awoken
to the manipulation.
The coronavirus really did thatfor a lot of people.
A lot of the repetition ofinaccurate information really
helped wake a lot of people up.
So I do think a lot of peopleare listening.
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I think it's important to avoidgetting into soundbites and
that is the you know, thosefence post issues and focusing
so much on triggeringconversations and triggering
angles that have been repeatedover and over and using fresh
new language, focusing onsolutions and getting that
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message repeated and out thereand showing people.
So, like when we did thesoundbites, the solutions event
here in New York city, we hadpoliticians from New York come
in and have an open conversationabout immigration, and it was
very important for for us asorganizers to to get everybody
on board with the idea ofspeaking about solutions, not
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falling into the habit ofrepeating language that fires
people up, and so I think a lotof people are ready for more of
that.
We got incredible feedback.
The turnout was like well, theplace was absolutely packed
People.
Really, I think people aredesperate for solutions at this
point and I and uh, I thinkmedia, uh, can get, mass media
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particularly, can get engineeredto get behind that.
If you look at what's happeningright now with Biden, um,
there's been a real disconnectfor a couple of years now, and
being able to have some honestconversations about some of the
things that have been have beenobvious and going on and um, the
fact that they're now, you know, seeing results because they're
attempting to speak about thetruth, I think is actually an
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opportunity, although you don'twant to get into politics about
that.
But it's those, the smallerrooms across the country, where
these conversations really needto take place, where actual
fundamental change takes placeIn regard to, you know I the
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fact you know people can talkabout.
Oh, the politicians are tryingThey've been trying to raise the
minimum wage to a decent amount.
It is nowhere near where itneeds to be.
It has barely increased in thelast 25 years.
It's killing the middle classand lower classes in this
country.
They can ban try to ban TikTokin four days.
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They can pass massive billsthat send billions of dollars to
foreign countries, billions ofdollars that we do not have.
I don't even know where we'regetting it, but we can do that
in four or five days but wecan't figure out how to raise
the minimum wage in months andyears.
That's because of the pressurethat's being put on them by
corporations who pay their bills, basically, or hire them when
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they're out of office to come beon their board.
Like that whole corrupt systemhas to collapse.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
So that means, in your, in your opinion, do we get
rid of lobbyists?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I don't think we can we'll be able to get rid of
lobbyists and special interestgroups.
I do think that we can get ridof their ability to put money in
the pockets of politicians, andif we make it impossible for
politicians to invest in thestock market which is something
I've been talking about foryears now and is finally getting
some traction in Washington,that would help tremendously,
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because when you deter peoplewho want to use the political
system to benefit financiallyfrom actually even running for
office, we're going to get morequality people that are actually
concerned with change, like aKatie Porter, who I think is an
incredible example of somebodywho's speaking the truth.
She's one of the few that areactually Bernie Sanders.
I, you know, I'm not necessarilya massive fan of him in terms
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of, you know, I'm not really afan of most politicians, but but
at least he's willing to saythings that other people are too
scared to say, because theycare more about their money.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
So when you talk about having these soundbite
conversations in New York, whichpeople you know?
So you have the polarized coast, you have the east and the west
.
How does that conversationsound?
In Iowa, in Michigan, in Idaho,in western Pennsylvania, in
Wisconsin?
How do those conversationswhere the media there is so
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skewed to the right and it's soread and propagandized, oh yeah,
oh yeah?
How do you break through thosesound barriers?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I think you don't use the language that media has
trained people to get fired upover.
You come at it from a solutionbase but you come bring in facts
.
When you come in showingexamples within their own area,
you're not talking to them justfrom a national perspective.
So as we travel the soundbitesand solutions events around, we
can come in with stories aboutwhat's actually going on in
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their real community, showingthem actual factual data that
shows what's actually happening,and have conversations about
how to address those real issuesthat are happening for them.
And when you get the trust ofthe people by not using the
language that they're used togetting fired up over, so you're
not triggering them by focusingon actual factual data and how
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we can utilize things liketechnology to create great
change in environments and howthey can actually address some
of the biggest challenges theyhave, then the conversation
becomes relatable and you'rethere trying to fix their
hierarchy of needs.
See, a lot of the issues thatkeep people really distracted
have nothing.
One of the reasons they choosethings like abortion and topics
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like that are because they don'tactually go to the heart of
everybody's real experience.
But when the majority of peoplein this country are really
struggling financially andthey're worried about their
housing, their food, theirclothing, their ability to just
function.
You've now got a whole lot ofpeople who are much more willing
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to listen to a differentperspective.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I'm so glad that you brought up the abortion issue
and Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
That was one of my favoritetopics.
I was talking, you know,studying business and marketing
in school.
When it comes to something assimple as January 6, 6th and we
have video footage of peoplebreaking into the capitol.
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We have people we have videofootage of people you know
beating up police officers andyou know law enforcement um
representatives, and fox newsdoesn't show the full scope of
what happens.
But you know you talk about.
You've got to bring them facts.
If people aren't going tobelieve their own eyes, how are
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you going to get them to listento data that doesn't align with
what they already believe?
And then there's a follow-upquestion to that.
Donald trump got into officebecause majority I think it was
a lot of white women voted forhim, voted against their own
interest.
And now we have the reversal ofroe versus wade, right, um,
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they knew his character, theyknew his personality,
personality, they, you know theythey were kind of high off of
his celebrity apprentice stinton NBC but didn't want to see
beyond the glitz and the glamor,didn't want to see beyond what
he said about himself.
You know, even though hisbusiness fell for bankruptcy six
times.
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How do you get people to seebeyond that?
And one more question, and thisis all tied together when we
look at how South Africa dealtwith the end of apartheid, or
legal apartheid.
And they set up a Truth andReconciliation Commission and
the purpose of that commissionwas for the parties that were
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injured to be heard and theparties that were the oppressors
to apologize, but also to beheard Right, they knew they
couldn't go forward until theyaddressed the elephant in the
room.
America seems to have a veryunique problem addressing the
elephant in the room.
America will dress up theelephant, will dance around the
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elephant, will burn fire aroundthe elephant, will put perfume
on the elephant, but will nottalk about the elephant.
What is up with that?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I think that goes back to the fear and I know we
talked about fear uh, beforehand.
Uh, I I think to get to.
To answer a couple of yourfirst questions um, I think it's
important to be apolitical, uhin in the soundbites to
solutions effort.
Um, in communities, you can'tcome in as a red or as a blue
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and have these conversations andbe financially supported by
political parties and behighlighting political local
politicians.
That, right there, already setsthe entire conversation up to
be a battle.
It has to be an independentconversation, it has to involve
people within that community.
You can come in and be thepeople who bring that
conversation around and helpguide that conversation and help
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showcase and highlightinformation that's factual.
But you, you need people withinthe community that are not
involved in politics to sharetheir stories that highlight the
factual information to be to betrue and to test to be
testimony, bare testimony, tothe truth of those conversations
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.
I think you know, in America weuse a lot of those triggering
and and I think abortion is agreat topic, but it's a whole
other kettle of fish.
We can cover it in anotherconversation, but I think those,
those issues are used to keepus distracted.
We have some seriouslyfundamental issues that are
affecting people's ability tofeed their children and to have
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jobs and homes, and that needsto be addressed.
And it's so easy for peoplethat are benefiting from the
current chaos to keep ustriggered using that hat full of
crap that they like to dig into, triggered, using those, that
hat full of crap that they liketo dig into every time.
They're just like they're justdigging their hands into crap
and just slapping it oneverybody and keeping people
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running.
What does that smell?
What does that smell?
And it's like, yeah, it's thepeople over there who keep
distracting us.
That's the smell.
Please, let's stop that.
You know.
And I think bringing up trumpactually highlights what I'm
talking about.
Like, the president of theunited states is clearly,
obviously a very important role,but a lot of the fundamental
issues that we have right noware things that don't involve.
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I mean, we can push thepresident, we can get, but these
are issues that go back to theseventies, that were not fixed
by any blue or red president and, and I think, when the American
people understand their powerin stepping away from being red
or blue and come togethercollectively to highlight those
core issues and say fix this nowand don't allow themselves to
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be distracted by talks of whatTrump did 20 years ago or
whether or not Biden.
I mean it's pretty clear bylooking at Biden that he's not
running the White House, or notBiden?
I mean it's pretty clear bylooking at Biden that he's not
running the White House.
So that, to me, just highlightsthe fact that you know that's a
whole other.
That's the next level problemwe need to address who's really
actually running the country.
But you know what?
Who is actually really runningthe country ultimately are the
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people who just allowed thereins to be taken from us and by
coming together in the purple,if you will, where the red and
the blue bleed together, andtaking those reins back and
making it about actual hierarchyof needs situations.
That's where we're at.
We're collapsing on theinternational stage right now.
The american dream is dead andto revitalize it we need we need
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enough people in this countrywho are sick and tired of what
has been going on to get behindfixing those core, fundamental
issues, and then we can tackleall the other things.
Um, but when you start to tocome together as people and
really command your power, wewill so startle the people
who've been having a good oldtime keeping everybody
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distracted while they pad theirpockets, uh, with money, lots of
millions of dollars.
How our politicians becomemulti-multi-millionaires
absolutely amazes me.
You know, then, what we'll dois we'll start forcing the
system to change, to adapt to us.
You know, trying to change theking doesn't really work that
way nowadays.
(29:34):
We have to change the fabricand then work our way up.
Speaking of kings.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
The Supreme Court just passed a ruling last Monday
that would essentially makeDonald Trump the next king, or
any president going forward whochooses to use the reins of
power with no repercussions,with no.
There's no way to hold themaccountable.
(30:01):
How do you?
For people who point to thedifferent metrics, the stock
market is the highest it's everbeen.
Unemployment is hovering at 4%.
Unemployment is hovering atfour percent.
(30:21):
The uh biden administration hascreated 15 million new jobs
good jobs.
They have a chips act thatbrought the, the manufacturing
of chips back to america.
They passed the infrastructurebill and you know there's all.
If you turn everywhere you turn, in new york state at least
there's construction going on.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
So when you have all these metrics that point to how
well things are going, I don'tbelieve they're going well at
all and I don't believe moststatistics, like in inflation,
is an absolute.
A lot of people don't know this.
Inflation is a manipulatedstatistic, that is, that is
dictated by people who benefitby actually making it look as
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good as possible.
So if they don't like the waythe numbers roll out, using the
system that they had the lasttime they did it, they can
actually switch the numbers outfor other categories to
manipulate it.
And this is why the data, thesource of the data, is so
important.
So when you're looking athistorically, what's actually
been happening with real jobsand those jobs, but jobs numbers
are so manipulated by companiesreporting jobs that they're
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they're hiring for.
But there's a whole that's awhole other can of worms.
Those jobs don't actually exist.
They're fake jobs because theybenefit from the system by
pretending that they're actuallyhiring people Almost.
There's been a lot of storieslately about this but a lot of
those jobs are actually fakebecause they're trying to give
the illusion that the country isin good hands.
The country is actually inserious in a serious state, it's
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in dire straits.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
So, knowing that, and you talked about manipulation
and, and you know, there's aedict that says numbers don't
lie, but if the person but theydo person behind the scenes is
pulling the strings, they, theycan lie, which brings me back to
the conversation of AI and thethreat of AI.
So many, so many people areafraid of artificial
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intelligence.
Is it artificial intelligenceor is it just intelligence?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Right, that's a good question.
You know, I, in my next book, ANew American Dream, or my new
book, A New American Dream I,the whole book is about the
death of the American dream.
And, uh, or my new book, a newAmerican dream I, uh, the whole
book is about the death of theAmerican dream and how we can
actually use technology to, tohelp re-engineer it.
Um, the the truth is, whetherwe like it or not, AI is is here
(32:30):
to stay.
It's been here for a long timenow and it's advancing rapidly.
Right now it's going tocompletely alter everything, and
we have this precious timeright now to actually uh
ethically engineer, design, uhimplement it in ways that can
actually benefit us, that willallow us to utilize its data
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capacity to engineer,re-engineer our systems so that
they benefit the average personand they stop benefiting a
handful of people at the top.
And so the premise of that bookis all around the fact that you
have to accept.
You know it's it's a lot ofpeople have said to me what do
you mean AI?
Aren't you scared yes, I am.
I'm not naive to what canhappen when we start mixing.
(33:15):
You know we're going to becyborgs in three years.
We're already cyborgs, it'sjust not in our bodies, but
we're all walking around with aphone in our hands all the time
Looking down.
Looking down, not in the worldor of the world.
We're in this phone that wethink of as being the world, and
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in a couple of years, we'regoing to be actual cyborgs.
People are going to bemanipulating their bodies like
they do with tattoos andpiercings, and so that AI is
here and it's extraordinarilypowerful and it's going to
completely transform everything.
And we have this time right now.
In this brief there's just abrief, like couple of years
right now that are so precious,where we can ethically have
conversations about all thestuff.
That's good.
It's small enough right nowthat we can still do this in
terms of how, what, how muchresearch and how much is
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actually rolling out the doorand being implemented, uh, into
the world, that we can actuallydo this right now.
But if we wait, if we juststand back, like we did with the
tech boom of 2000 and we justgo, oh, wow, which is what
everybody did, including thegovernment, we're going to find
ourselves in a situation thatcould actually happen, like
Terminator is actually kind ofrealistic in many ways.
(34:29):
Um, because you know, as we'veseen historically, our
scientists and our engineers andI have mad respect for them but
sometimes they get so caught upin their creation process that
they really don't.
They give themselves thisarrogance of assuming that
they'll be able to control theoutcome of everything, and we've
seen that that's not alwayspossible.
So so we can.
(34:49):
You know, right now is such animportant time where these
things that we can, it's justmanageable enough and we still
have that.
The door is still cracked.
We need to kick it in and behaving open and honest
conversations about the ethicsaround AI, about the ethics
around everything that's comingout right now the chat, gpts,
the NVIDIAs of the world and beable to not only foresee where
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it can lead, make sure that it'sbenefiting as many people as
possible, that it's ethicallydone, that it that its data is,
you know, is is respectful ofprivacy and all of that, and and
really push it to be benefitmost people.
Because one of the problems thatwe see when we go back to the
tech boom of 2000 is that thatbenefited a handful of of very
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powerful companies that have astranglehold on the world now,
like the Google and I have madrespect for Google, but Google
is way too powerful, the applesof the world.
They're massively powerfulcompanies and there should have
been more competition in there.
There should have been moreethics and if you look at what
Facebook did with CambridgeAnalytica, that should have
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never happened and there werepeople like myself who've been
screaming about the issues goingon there ethically for years
and no one was doing anythingabout it because we were making
too much money and it was toocool the new technology.
We can't have that happen again.
So I'm a I'm a big advocate forAI, but also AI safety and AI
ethics.
But but I believe that we havethis moment to engineer it.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I'm so glad that you said that.
Does America have the capacityand the willpower to have this
conversation?
Does America have the abilityto save itself from the death of
the American dream?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yes, I believe I'm a huge patriot.
I love America.
I believe that we can have anew American dream.
I believe that there are enoughAmericans in this country that
care about the country and thefuture generations and the
quality of their life experiencethat they will be willing to
(36:57):
have these conversations aboutsolutions versus sound bites,
and actually get behind pushingfor solutions.
I feel that's well happeningand that's why it's so important
that it's not a politicalconversation or movement.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Thank you for that.
How do we quiet the politicalvoices while raising the voices
of the people?
Speaker 3 (37:22):
You know, I think that's goes back to the, the
purple.
I mean, I was going to call ita purple movement at this point,
because when politicians youknow nobody's more chicken shit
than a politician that seeswhich way the wind is blowing
and when we have a movement, andthat's already happening,
you're already starting to seepoliticians seeing they're.
They're starting to eyeballbecause they also have Twitter
(37:43):
or X and Tik TOK.
I keep doing that, uh and TikTOK.
They are seeing how muchhonesty is actually starting to
happen and they can see thatthere's no way to actually stop
that.
Um, the biggest mistake that thehandful of people that are in
power made was getting toogreedy.
So they were getting away withit for decades by being just
greedy enough, just unpatrioticenough, just screw everybody
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over enough, and then they hadto go and mess with people's
food, and that was their hugemistake.
They messed with the medicine,they messed with the healthcare,
they messed with jobs and thenthey had to go and mess with
people's ability to feed theirchildren, and that's that, to me
, has been the turning point andit will continue to be the
turning point as people reallybegin to absorb and acknowledge.
(38:25):
In the last two years food hasgone up 50% because the
corporations that benefit themost in this country decided to
screw over the American peopleand that was their biggest
mistake and that the politicians.
They have to be smelling thatpeople have had it.
It's time for this conversation.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I think the American people are ready for it how do
we get the American people whoare distracted?
Years ago I read this bookcalled the bloodline of the holy
grail, which is the hiddenlineage of Christ, and in it it
talked about the caesars.
And during the time of thecaesars they used to have breads
and circuses, and the breadsand circuses were the coliseum
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with the gladiators and thelions and all that stuff, and
then they would toss bread intothe crowd to satiate the, the
hunger, the appetite of thecrowd, and the circuses was the
gladiators and the lines andpeople fighting to the death,
and all of this to distract themfrom what the senators were
doing.
Yes, it's so true.
(39:25):
So we're living in the time ofbreads and circuses.
And you know, so I call themedia conglomerate, whether it's
, you know, the sportsentertainment complex, the
political media complex.
You have all these differentcomplexes, the military
industrial complex, all thesecomplexes designed for control
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and for distraction.
How do we get people to opentheir eyes to see that this is
really happening and that theyneed to be?
You know, now, woke is a badword.
Now right, every term that wecome up with about enlightenment
or the you know the masses comeup with about enlightenment,
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gets turned into a bad word.
So how do we flip the scriptand make woke a good terminology
going forward?
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Uh, I don't think we can say that word at this point,
uh, uh, your language is soimportant.
I think that that, um, it wouldbe awesome to believe that you
can get people to listen whenthey're not ready, but I think
if we focus, it's just the truth.
You can't get people to hearsomething they're not ready to
hear yet.
You can't get people to changeif they're not, if they're not
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in that in the in enough pain tochange.
But there are enough people inthis country that are in enough
pain, if you will, that areready for change, and when you
get them collectively comingtogether to create a shared
voice and a shared power thatcan force change, just by sheer
numbers and volume and voice.
What will happen withrepetition is those people who
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weren't ready to hear willbecome more ready to hear, and
then they'll be able to opentheir ears and then they'll be
able to slowly shift in, andthen we create this sort of
groundswell that will sweep alot more people up and then we
can see a fundamental change.
I really believe that if therewas ever a time in the history
of humanity, particularly thehistory of America, where the
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average people would cometogether apolitically and force
some seriously importantconversations, that is now, and
there was never a more importanttime in which that needs to
happen, because AI, which I'm ahuge fan of, is so powerful and
is going to be so transformative.
(41:48):
We have two options right now,and that is a much more
dystopian future, where ahandful of companies and a
handful of people control themajority of the wealth in the
world, which they already do.
But we have time now to scrapeit back by creating more
equality within artificialintelligence and focusing on the
average person's lifeexperience.
Or we can actually have thismuch more beautiful, harmonious
(42:11):
world where we're utilizing thebeauty that AI can offer, the
abundance that AI can offer, tocreate a great life experience
and career experience for theaverage people and create a
ladder for our children to climbthat they're actually excited
about, because when we destroyedthat ladder in recent decades,
we haven't given them the hopethat they need.
(42:32):
People need hope.
That is what the American dreamis.
That's why it is the soul ofAmerica, because it is the
ladder that people are willingto climb to be a part of the
system, and our youngergenerations need a ladder.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Yeah, how do you envision the world raising its
own consciousness?
Speaker 3 (42:52):
I think the people who have already benefited from
the beauty, the beautifulexperience that is raising their
human consciousness likeyourself and myself and we're
both human consciousnessadvocates by openly talking
about sharing, about havingworkshops and events around
human consciousness andspreading the understanding that
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raising your humanconsciousness is not only a tool
for creating a beautiful lifeexperience and career experience
and family experience, but it'salso the answer to the mental
health crisis.
We have a massive global mentalhealth crisis and, as we
continue down the road with AI,that's actually going to get
worse if we don't do somethingnow.
So not only do I want toadvocate for utilizing AI in the
(43:36):
most conscious uh way for theaverage person's life experience
, but I really believe that, inparallel with that, by raising
human consciousness, uh andspreading the word and making it
a part of that same shift youknow, by educating people about
mindset and emotional and mentalmastery while we're educating
them about artificialintelligence we can raise human
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consciousness across the planetand raise the vibration across
the planet which sounds likehoey nonsense but, as you know,
this is science, this is quantumphysics, and uh and.
by handing people the tools toraise their human consciousness,
they'll be able to manage andhandle this extraordinary change
that the world is undergoingand is going to continue to
undergo.
For the next, you know it'sgoing to just keep going, but
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for the next five to 10 years isgoing to be mind blowing.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
What I think is really interesting.
When we talked aboutconsciousness and we talked
about mental health issues andthat globally there's a mental
health crisis, you reminded meof what happened during the
pandemic right, where there wasa really deep sense of isolation
, a tremendous amount of fear.
(44:44):
People didn't know what to do,where to go, who to trust.
And then you had conspiracytheories about the vaccine and
it didn't work.
Or it was put out by thispharmaceutical company and Dr
Fauci, blah, blah, blah, blah,right, but look what happened
post-pandemic, how people I'mpersonally witnessing there's a
(45:08):
sense of freedom that, becausepeople went through this
together, unfortunately,millions of people died around
the world, but there was a senseof let me let my hair down, let
me let my hair grow, let me letmy gray come in, let me you
know, I don't care what size Iam, who cares about body shame,
(45:30):
right?
And so you know that gives mehope.
Yeah, that me hope in in aplace where it looks hope looks
like it's a distant island, likeit's it's far, far away, it's
out of reach.
Um, so I'm going to keep and Iknow that you're going to keep
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raising awareness and talking topeople about their inner
journey and why it's importantto have that inner journey,
because you can't have the outerjourney, self-actualize, unless
you have that inner journey.
Yes, any final thoughts as weclose?
Speaker 3 (46:10):
you know, it was something I learned the hard way
.
I spent a lot of years chasing,chasing the american dream, in
an unhealthy way.
I was trying to succeed becauseI wanted other people to
approve of me.
I wanted to, uh, to win,because I was told that that was
how I would learn to be happy.
Uh, you get the house, the car,the 2.5 kids, all of that.
(46:33):
That, that, that that version ofthe American dream, didn't
actually work for most people,because life, joy, is an
internal experience.
It has absolutely nothing to dowith your external world, and
so the circumstances of yourlife can't dictate whether or
not you're happy.
That's a choice in what youallow to repeat in your mind and
(46:57):
what you allow, um, therepeating thoughts that you
allow, uh, to generate your lifeexperience.
So that you know, we, we, wehave our thought habits, which
are usually gifted to us by ourlife experience, but mostly by
our family, and by allowingunhealthy thoughts to repeat, we
create an unhealthy mentalstate, which creates an
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unhealthy emotional state, whichcreates an unhealthy energy in
motion, which is what emotion isand that creates your life
experience, their circumstances,and it can't be a reaction to
what's happening outside of them.
That is actually a choice thatthey make in every given day and
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every given moment, every givenhour.
They're making that decision bychoosing what thoughts to allow
to repeat and if they practicechoosing healthy thoughts that
create a great mental state,they create a great emotional
state which creates a greatenergy in motion.
Now they're high, they're in agreat vibration and frequency
and they're enjoying life.
And if they understood thatcycle was within the palm of
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their hand, they would be at thewheel driving their life
experience, and I think thatreally is the message that for
me is at the end of the day isthe American dream is really
important, but sharing withother people that by getting
command of that they canactually be blissful.
That's the most powerfulmessage I had to share and it's
a lesson I learned the hard way,and what I'm also hearing is
that we are in control of ourdestiny.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
It's up to us, it's our choice, and you didn't say
this, but if people don't go outand vote in their interests
instead of against theirinterests, they're going to be
putting politicians in place whowill continue to corrupt
society.
This is true.
It's up to you, it's up to usAll.
(48:45):
Right, thanks, lita, thank you.
I've always thought of the American dream as the
heart and soul of the country.
Boy has our soul taken abeating in recent years.
Things are a bit of a mess, youknow.
I thought after the closuresthat the corporations would step
up to take care of people, butwhat we've seen is a shocking
level of greed and corruption.
It's crushed the middle class,decimated the lower classes and
(00:30):
brought people to their knees,and rightfully they're angry.
But you know what?
We stand on the edge of, theage of AI, an industrial
revolution that we can actuallyget in front of.
We can engineer and design anew America through intelligent
and strategic use of technology.
(00:51):
I truly believe that is the wayforward.
It is the way to provide hopeto our younger generations and
to reignite the American dream.
The American Dream.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Hello, I'm Weta Duncan and I'm here with Cynthia
Elliott, author, philanthropistand AI advocate.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And we're here, to talk about her passion and her
purpose, and we hope you enjoythis conversation.
Hi Weta, so good to see you Allright.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
So when we talked about having this discussion, I
was really excited, becausethere are a couple of things
that I knew that you had on yourmind, that you wanted to talk
about, and one of them wasactually about the American
dream and how it's evading us ina significant way.
(01:45):
First of all, where did you getthis desire to really focus on
that issue and why is that issueso important to you?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Well, as an author and social theorist, I've been
writing for a few years nowabout the issues that we're
struggling with in America, inparticular, when they're global.
Many of them are global issues,but particularly here in
America and in my sharing withother people about the issues, I
(02:14):
started to really see that thatnot only were a lot of people
not aware of what a lot of thefrustrations were leading to,
but that the issues weren'tbeing addressed in any any
serious and profound manner.
They were.
They had been turned, ourissues had been turned into
soundbites, and that was doingnothing but perpetuating a level
of fear in culture and insociety that isn't helping
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anybody.
And and so you know, I decidedthat it was important to share a
perspective that the Americandream is dead and that it needs
a revitalization, and that's atruth that we have to accept.
And for us to be able to createsolutions, we have to have an
honest conversation about how werevitalize the American dream
(02:56):
especially for youngergenerations.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Say more about the obituary of the American dream,
more about the obituary of theAmerican Dream.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
So it's interesting.
You know the American Dream isreally rooted in post-World War
II America.
We came back from the war, wewere heroes and a lot of the
technology and progress that wemade because of the war and
that's sadly one of the effectsof war led to a lot of
prosperity in America.
You know, we were really on topof the world in the 1950s and
(03:27):
60s, but as capitalism began toingrain itself in that same
system, we saw an increase incorporate greed and we have
consistently seen an increase incorporate greed since the 1970s
to the point where now they'rejust blatantly not caring about
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America in the way that we didin post-World War II America.
You know, the American dreamwas possible in the 50s and 60s
because corporations took somelevel of care with how they
treated people and what theirdecisions caused to happen in
this country, and because ourpoliticians are really on the
payroll of corporations, we'veled it's led us to a system
where we're now in 2024 and wehave uh generations of young
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people who do not have a ladderdecline because the cost of of
the hierarchy of needs is out ofcontrol.
And to to be able to addressall of that, as well as
seriously important issues likethe mental health crisis.
I think we have to be willingto have these conversations out
loud and fearlessly.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
When you talk about how America was seen in the 50s
and even the 60s, you know we'recoming back from post-World War
II.
You know the reconstruction ofEurope, the wealth that America
gained from selling arms and allof the things that America did
(04:50):
to get themselves or ourselvesfully involved in freeing people
from Nazi determination andtrying to, you know, overtake
all of Europe.
What, where did we get lost?
And you talked about corporategreed.
What happened to the Americansoul?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, I'm glad that you brought it up like that,
because that's how I refer to itis that the American dream is
the soul of the country andwe've lost our soul.
It's been a slow death of thesoul, particularly since the
1970s.
So if you go back to the 1970s,you begin to see, particularly
on graphs, you begin to see thisseparation between how the
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workers of America were beingtreated versus how corporations
were paying their top levelexecutives, and the cost of
goods parallels with that.
And so over time, since the1970s, ceo pay and top executive
pay has increased 1,400, 1,600percent, while workers' pay has
not kept up even close.
And when you add to that thefact that the corporations
(05:57):
really are running and makingthe decisions in the country,
they have consistently utilizedour political system to move the
pieces of puzzle around tobenefit the wealthiest in the
country and the most powerfulcompanies in the country.
Many of them are globalcompanies.
And so it's led us to a placewhere we shipped our jobs out of
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the country.
We shipped our manufacturingcapabilities out of the country,
we shipped our independence outof the country, we lost a lot
of our blue collar jobs, andthen we shipped a ton of our
white collar jobs out of thecountry when the tech boom
happened, and so now Americafinds itself in 2024 with almost
.
It's almost like a falseeconomy in a lot of ways,
because so much of what we hadbefore is now gone.
(06:38):
And how do we get that back?
How do we create new jobs?
How do we stop the hemorrhagingand becomes a maker of things
again?
We have to be able to supportourselves as a country, and we
can't do that right now, as wesaw during the coronavirus.
It was very challenging, sothere's a lot of work to be done
, but I do believe there's hope.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
So hope.
That was the Obama campaign,right, Hope and change.
And you talked about howcorporate corporations have
basically not only taken thereins of the political structure
but they're not controllingthat structure and making
(07:21):
decisions that are solely selfself, selffiting or
self-fulfilling.
Yeah, and something elsehappened right before the soul
kind of got pulled out ofAmerica with the Vietnam War and
the loss of trust in theAmerican government the loss of
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trust in the American government, and you talked about
corporations.
You know, and basically youknow the power that they have,
and I remember it was MittRomney that said corporations
are people, right, so whathappened?
What do you think happened tomake corporations so focused on
(08:05):
profits versus people?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I think that goes back to to our uh stocks, the
way our stock system is done,and the fact that ceos job and
role and their ability to makemoney all became about pleasing
their stockholders, theirinvestors, and they stopped
caring about the customer.
Their number one goal was toplease people who had the
(08:31):
biggest vested interest in them,and those people were telling
them basically what they wantedthem to do, which was make sure
I make more money and we have avery small.
Like a lot of people don'tunderstand this, because we hear
so much about stocks on thenews, but less than 10% of the
country owns over 90% of allstocks, so the majority of
people have almost no interestin the stock market at all,
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which means that a very smallpercentage of the country
actually controls a vastmajority of the companies that
have any influence in thiscountry.
And because our politicalsystem allows corporations to
basically sponsor politiciansand then tell them what they
want them to do.
Over time we've had this justcomplete destruction of a system
where patriotism post-World WarII there was a patriotism in
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corporations where they feltthat they needed to and also
they got called out if theyweren't supporting America and
the American dream and how topush America forward and, as
we've seen, you know,globalization.
These companies that are herearen't really just here, they're
all over the world.
So their interest really isn'tin being good, patriotic
companies, even if they startedhere in America.
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And so they, between the whothey're trying to please, the
influence they have overpolitics and and the fact that
their number one goal is to makeas much money as possible, they
are making decisions that arelong-term destructive, as we're
seeing right now.
You know, in two years,groceries have gone up 50% and
we're wondering why our youngpeople can't afford apartments,
they can't afford homes, theycan't afford cars, they can't
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get good full-time jobs,especially with any kind of
benefits or pay, because thoseall got got sent away in place
of the 401k that was supposed tomake everything awesome.
You know, there's just beenthis systematic destruction and
if you go back to say I thinkit's Reagan is when we really
see the disintegration, uh,there there's.
We began that and I I actuallylike Reaganagan as a president,
(10:23):
but he did bring usher in thisera of pleasing, um, the biggest
companies and, uh, the trickledown theory, yeah, and and so um
, over time, that that whole uh,um, hot mess if you will, I'd
like to call it something reallyformal but it's just really
been a hot mess of bad decisionsthat were made to please people
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who have the most power, moneyand control, and we know this on
a fundamental level.
But it's just really been a hotmess of bad decisions that were
made to please people who havethe most power, money and
control, and we know this on afundamental level.
But it's hard for us to sort ofpinpoint.
And at this point it's come tothe, to the place where
America's, we're sick, our soulis.
You know, we're experiencingthe death of the American dream,
which is the soul of thecountry, and for us to get our
soul back, we need to create anew American dream, and to do
that we have to be willing tojust say these are facts.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
That's such a great point you bring up.
Because when I think about thedifferent factors, whether it's
political, economic, social,technological, in the judicial
space excuse my tongue twistedversion of that that rebuilding
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the American dream and gettingpeople to really have a
conversation, a realconversation about what's wrong
with America, and I'm sensing assomeone who wasn't born here
right, and I'm sensing assomeone who wasn't born here
right, and coming here back inthe 70s with my family was kind
of an interesting experience andyou know we can talk about that
further if you would like, butas an outsider, looking in and
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looking at what made sense andthen things that just didn't
make sense right, living in oneof the richest countries in the
world, yet there was so muchpoverty.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, richest countries, it's like you mean
the 5%, 10% that own mosteverything.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
But in terms of the GDP, right.
And what?
The economy?
How many tens of trillions ofdollars that is circulating in
the economy, right?
So when you talk about the soulof America being sick and that
we have to come to the newAmerican dream, how do we open
up those conversations forpeople to hear?
People are so siloed right now.
Everyone is in their own mediasilo and the media buckets.
(12:37):
They're not necessarily open tolistening to each other,
because the people in thepolitical class understand,
especially those who are tryingto manipulate certain segments
of the population and how theypress on those fears.
They press on the pluralisticsociety and the multi-racial
society that America is becoming.
(12:57):
So how do you open up aconversation to people who
really don't feel the same waythat you do and don't want to
hear what you have to say?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I think it's about focusing on solutions, about
highlighting.
I think when I started an eventseries called Sound Bites to
Solutions, because this is soimportant to me, we have to get
away from sound bites.
Sound bites are being used tokeep people living in fear and
anxiety and stress, and thatallows people to take advantage
of large swaths of the country.
Um, I think it's by continuingto, to repeat repetition that's
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all that's education isrepeating that we need to be in
solution mode.
We have some pretty seriousissues.
I will say that I have a lot ofhope now.
Three years ago, um, I didn't,because I was trying to have
conversations with people about,about things that I was quite
shocked and appalled by.
Going back to about four yearsago, I was trying to have these
really important conversationsto say this is actually a
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serious issue, and I couldn'tget people to even have that
conversation at all.
But in the last two years, we'veseen a real shift in that,
particularly on social mediaplatforms, which is one of the
reasons why politicians want toget control of things like
Twitter and TikTok or X andTikTok, because they're
terrified of the honesty that'sactually happening on those
platforms.
I think that when you start toscrew with people.
(14:13):
It's one thing when the world,when the country's doing pretty
good, but when the middle classis dying and it's it's dying
people can't afford luxuries.
That's the definition of middleclass.
When the middle class is dyingand the lower income classes are
getting crushed and you startto see a disintegration in
people's hierarchy of needsbeing met, you get people.
(14:33):
That's French revolution kindof, uh of energy, and that is
actually where we're at.
So I think if we're going tohave this conversation now, is
the going to have thisconversation?
Now is the time to have thisconversation about revitalizing
the American dream.
I mean, just, you know we'rehaving honest conversations
about things like politics and,uh, corporate greed and the fact
that politicians can invest inthe stock market, something
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where they oversee thesecorporations.
These are major issues thatcontribute to all of this.
So I actually have a lot ofhope that there are a lot more
people who are willing to listenand say, look, I'm seeing a lot
of content to saying you knowwhat?
I don't care about being blueor red, we've got issues.
So it gives me hope.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Well, I'm glad and I want to come back to this in a
few minutes but I want to talkto you about going back to when
the middle class was created,when Henry Ford for all of his
faults, you know, because he wasa Nazi sympathizer and
supporter but he understood thatif he's going to manufacture
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cars, that his workers need tobe able to afford to buy those
cars, and that's how you kind ofkickstart the economy by having
people be able to afford yourproducts, right?
And we know that the federalminimum wage is about $7.25 an
hour.
This administration, the Bidenadministration, is trying to get
it up to $15 an hour, and thatthis administration is very
(15:54):
pro-union and the unions arethose jobs, are the ones that
are a majority middle-class jobs, right?
So you talked about the socialmedia platforms and how we
control information.
So that's another economy thatwe need to talk about, and we
also are noticing that AI isactually playing a role in how
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information is disseminated andhow it's distributed and how
it's altered and how the truthis becoming a lie and the lies
becoming the truth.
Can you talk to to us about that?
And, you know, going back tobringing people to the table,
getting them to separate fromtheir their labels.
(16:41):
Right, the most powerful labelsare the left and right.
Right now that's left, right,red, blue.
They're like swords.
Right, they're becoming weapons.
How do you get people to hearyou when they're in a media echo
chamber?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, and I'm happy to say that mass media's numbers
have been dying for years nowbecause people have been awoken
to the manipulation.
The coronavirus really did thatfor a lot of people.
A lot of the repetition ofinaccurate information really
helped wake a lot of people up.
So I do think a lot of peopleare listening.
(17:21):
I think it's important to avoidgetting into soundbites and
that is the you know, thosefence post issues and focusing
so much on triggeringconversations and triggering
angles that have been repeatedover and over and using fresh
new language, focusing onsolutions and getting that
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message repeated and out thereand showing people.
So, like when we did thesoundbites, the solutions event
here in New York city, we hadpoliticians from New York come
in and have an open conversationabout immigration, and it was
very important for for us asorganizers to to get everybody
on board with the idea ofspeaking about solutions, not
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falling into the habit ofrepeating language that fires
people up, and so I think a lotof people are ready for more of
that.
We got incredible feedback.
The turnout was like well, theplace was absolutely packed
People.
Really, I think people aredesperate for solutions at this
point and I and uh, I thinkmedia, uh, can get, mass media
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particularly, can get engineeredto get behind that.
If you look at what's happeningright now with Biden, um,
there's been a real disconnectfor a couple of years now, and
being able to have some honestconversations about some of the
things that have been have beenobvious and going on and um, the
fact that they're now, you know, seeing results because they're
attempting to speak about thetruth, I think is actually an
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opportunity, although you don'twant to get into politics about
that.
But it's those, the smallerrooms across the country, where
these conversations really needto take place, where actual
fundamental change takes placeIn regard to, you know I the
(19:13):
fact you know people can talkabout.
Oh, the politicians are tryingThey've been trying to raise the
minimum wage to a decent amount.
It is nowhere near where itneeds to be.
It has barely increased in thelast 25 years.
It's killing the middle classand lower classes in this
country.
They can ban try to ban TikTokin four days.
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They can pass massive billsthat send billions of dollars to
foreign countries, billions ofdollars that we do not have.
I don't even know where we'regetting it, but we can do that
in four or five days but wecan't figure out how to raise
the minimum wage in months andyears.
That's because of the pressurethat's being put on them by
corporations who pay their bills, basically, or hire them when
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they're out of office to come beon their board.
Like that whole corrupt systemhas to collapse.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
So that means, in your, in your opinion, do we get
rid of lobbyists?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I don't think we can we'll be able to get rid of
lobbyists and special interestgroups.
I do think that we can get ridof their ability to put money in
the pockets of politicians, andif we make it impossible for
politicians to invest in thestock market which is something
I've been talking about foryears now and is finally getting
some traction in Washington,that would help tremendously,
(20:28):
because when you deter peoplewho want to use the political
system to benefit financiallyfrom actually even running for
office, we're going to get morequality people that are actually
concerned with change, like aKatie Porter, who I think is an
incredible example of somebodywho's speaking the truth.
She's one of the few that areactually Bernie Sanders.
I, you know, I'm not necessarilya massive fan of him in terms
(20:50):
of, you know, I'm not really afan of most politicians, but but
at least he's willing to saythings that other people are too
scared to say, because theycare more about their money.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
So when you talk about having these soundbite
conversations in New York, whichpeople you know?
So you have the polarized coast, you have the east and the west
.
How does that conversationsound?
In Iowa, in Michigan, in Idaho,in western Pennsylvania, in
Wisconsin?
How do those conversationswhere the media there is so
(21:22):
skewed to the right and it's soread and propagandized, oh yeah,
oh yeah?
How do you break through thosesound barriers?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I think you don't use the language that media has
trained people to get fired upover.
You come at it from a solutionbase but you come bring in facts
.
When you come in showingexamples within their own area,
you're not talking to them justfrom a national perspective.
So as we travel the soundbitesand solutions events around, we
can come in with stories aboutwhat's actually going on in
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their real community, showingthem actual factual data that
shows what's actually happening,and have conversations about
how to address those real issuesthat are happening for them.
And when you get the trust ofthe people by not using the
language that they're used togetting fired up over, so you're
not triggering them by focusingon actual factual data and how
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we can utilize things liketechnology to create great
change in environments and howthey can actually address some
of the biggest challenges theyhave, then the conversation
becomes relatable and you'rethere trying to fix their
hierarchy of needs.
See, a lot of the issues thatkeep people really distracted
have nothing.
One of the reasons they choosethings like abortion and topics
(22:43):
like that are because they don'tactually go to the heart of
everybody's real experience.
But when the majority of peoplein this country are really
struggling financially andthey're worried about their
housing, their food, theirclothing, their ability to just
function.
You've now got a whole lot ofpeople who are much more willing
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to listen to a differentperspective.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I'm so glad that you brought up the abortion issue
and Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
That was one of my favoritetopics.
I was talking, you know,studying business and marketing
in school.
When it comes to something assimple as January 6, 6th and we
have video footage of peoplebreaking into the capitol.
(23:28):
We have people we have videofootage of people you know
beating up police officers andyou know law enforcement um
representatives, and fox newsdoesn't show the full scope of
what happens.
But you know you talk about.
You've got to bring them facts.
If people aren't going tobelieve their own eyes, how are
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you going to get them to listento data that doesn't align with
what they already believe?
And then there's a follow-upquestion to that.
Donald trump got into officebecause majority I think it was
a lot of white women voted forhim, voted against their own
interest.
And now we have the reversal ofroe versus wade, right, um,
(24:20):
they knew his character, theyknew his personality,
personality, they, you know theythey were kind of high off of
his celebrity apprentice stinton NBC but didn't want to see
beyond the glitz and the glamor,didn't want to see beyond what
he said about himself.
You know, even though hisbusiness fell for bankruptcy six
times.
(24:40):
How do you get people to seebeyond that?
And one more question, and thisis all tied together when we
look at how South Africa dealtwith the end of apartheid, or
legal apartheid.
And they set up a Truth andReconciliation Commission and
the purpose of that commissionwas for the parties that were
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injured to be heard and theparties that were the oppressors
to apologize, but also to beheard Right, they knew they
couldn't go forward until theyaddressed the elephant in the
room.
America seems to have a veryunique problem addressing the
elephant in the room.
America will dress up theelephant, will dance around the
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elephant, will burn fire aroundthe elephant, will put perfume
on the elephant, but will nottalk about the elephant.
What is up with that?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I think that goes back to the fear and I know we
talked about fear uh, beforehand.
Uh, I I think to get to.
To answer a couple of yourfirst questions um, I think it's
important to be apolitical, uhin in the soundbites to
solutions effort.
Um, in communities, you can'tcome in as a red or as a blue
(25:57):
and have these conversations andbe financially supported by
political parties and behighlighting political local
politicians.
That, right there, already setsthe entire conversation up to
be a battle.
It has to be an independentconversation, it has to involve
people within that community.
You can come in and be thepeople who bring that
conversation around and helpguide that conversation and help
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showcase and highlightinformation that's factual.
But you, you need people withinthe community that are not
involved in politics to sharetheir stories that highlight the
factual information to be to betrue and to test to be
testimony, bare testimony, tothe truth of those conversations
(26:40):
.
I think you know, in America weuse a lot of those triggering
and and I think abortion is agreat topic, but it's a whole
other kettle of fish.
We can cover it in anotherconversation, but I think those,
those issues are used to keepus distracted.
We have some seriouslyfundamental issues that are
affecting people's ability tofeed their children and to have
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jobs and homes, and that needsto be addressed.
And it's so easy for peoplethat are benefiting from the
current chaos to keep ustriggered using that hat full of
crap that they like to dig into, triggered, using those, that
hat full of crap that they liketo dig into every time.
They're just like they're justdigging their hands into crap
and just slapping it oneverybody and keeping people
(27:21):
running.
What does that smell?
What does that smell?
And it's like, yeah, it's thepeople over there who keep
distracting us.
That's the smell.
Please, let's stop that.
You know.
And I think bringing up trumpactually highlights what I'm
talking about.
Like, the president of theunited states is clearly,
obviously a very important role,but a lot of the fundamental
issues that we have right noware things that don't involve.
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I mean, we can push thepresident, we can get, but these
are issues that go back to theseventies, that were not fixed
by any blue or red president and, and I think, when the American
people understand their powerin stepping away from being red
or blue and come togethercollectively to highlight those
core issues and say fix this nowand don't allow themselves to
(28:08):
be distracted by talks of whatTrump did 20 years ago or
whether or not Biden.
I mean it's pretty clear bylooking at Biden that he's not
running the White House, or notBiden?
I mean it's pretty clear bylooking at Biden that he's not
running the White House.
So that, to me, just highlightsthe fact that you know that's a
whole other.
That's the next level problemwe need to address who's really
actually running the country.
But you know what?
Who is actually really runningthe country ultimately are the
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people who just allowed thereins to be taken from us and by
coming together in the purple,if you will, where the red and
the blue bleed together, andtaking those reins back and
making it about actual hierarchyof needs situations.
That's where we're at.
We're collapsing on theinternational stage right now.
The american dream is dead andto revitalize it we need we need
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enough people in this countrywho are sick and tired of what
has been going on to get behindfixing those core, fundamental
issues, and then we can tackleall the other things.
Um, but when you start to tocome together as people and
really command your power, wewill so startle the people
who've been having a good oldtime keeping everybody
(29:14):
distracted while they pad theirpockets, uh, with money, lots of
millions of dollars.
How our politicians becomemulti-multi-millionaires
absolutely amazes me.
You know, then, what we'll dois we'll start forcing the
system to change, to adapt to us.
You know, trying to change theking doesn't really work that
way nowadays.
(29:34):
We have to change the fabricand then work our way up.
Speaking of kings.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
The Supreme Court just passed a ruling last Monday
that would essentially makeDonald Trump the next king, or
any president going forward whochooses to use the reins of
power with no repercussions,with no.
There's no way to hold themaccountable.
(30:01):
How do you?
For people who point to thedifferent metrics, the stock
market is the highest it's everbeen.
Unemployment is hovering at 4%.
Unemployment is hovering atfour percent.
(30:21):
The uh biden administration hascreated 15 million new jobs
good jobs.
They have a chips act thatbrought the, the manufacturing
of chips back to america.
They passed the infrastructurebill and you know there's all.
If you turn everywhere you turn, in new york state at least
there's construction going on.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
So when you have all these metrics that point to how
well things are going, I don'tbelieve they're going well at
all and I don't believe moststatistics, like in inflation,
is an absolute.
A lot of people don't know this.
Inflation is a manipulatedstatistic, that is, that is
dictated by people who benefitby actually making it look as
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good as possible.
So if they don't like the waythe numbers roll out, using the
system that they had the lasttime they did it, they can
actually switch the numbers outfor other categories to
manipulate it.
And this is why the data, thesource of the data, is so
important.
So when you're looking athistorically, what's actually
been happening with real jobsand those jobs, but jobs numbers
are so manipulated by companiesreporting jobs that they're
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they're hiring for.
But there's a whole that's awhole other can of worms.
Those jobs don't actually exist.
They're fake jobs because theybenefit from the system by
pretending that they're actuallyhiring people Almost.
There's been a lot of storieslately about this but a lot of
those jobs are actually fakebecause they're trying to give
the illusion that the country isin good hands.
The country is actually inserious in a serious state, it's
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in dire straits.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
So, knowing that, and you talked about manipulation
and, and you know, there's aedict that says numbers don't
lie, but if the person but theydo person behind the scenes is
pulling the strings, they, theycan lie, which brings me back to
the conversation of AI and thethreat of AI.
So many, so many people areafraid of artificial
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intelligence.
Is it artificial intelligenceor is it just intelligence?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Right, that's a good question.
You know, I, in my next book, ANew American Dream, or my new
book, A New American Dream I,the whole book is about the
death of the American dream.
And, uh, or my new book, a newAmerican dream I, uh, the whole
book is about the death of theAmerican dream and how we can
actually use technology to, tohelp re-engineer it.
Um, the the truth is, whetherwe like it or not, AI is is here
(32:30):
to stay.
It's been here for a long timenow and it's advancing rapidly.
Right now it's going tocompletely alter everything, and
we have this precious timeright now to actually uh
ethically engineer, design, uhimplement it in ways that can
actually benefit us, that willallow us to utilize its data
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capacity to engineer,re-engineer our systems so that
they benefit the average personand they stop benefiting a
handful of people at the top.
And so the premise of that bookis all around the fact that you
have to accept.
You know it's it's a lot ofpeople have said to me what do
you mean AI?
Aren't you scared yes, I am.
I'm not naive to what canhappen when we start mixing.
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You know we're going to becyborgs in three years.
We're already cyborgs, it'sjust not in our bodies, but
we're all walking around with aphone in our hands all the time
Looking down.
Looking down, not in the worldor of the world.
We're in this phone that wethink of as being the world, and
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in a couple of years, we'regoing to be actual cyborgs.
People are going to bemanipulating their bodies like
they do with tattoos andpiercings, and so that AI is
here and it's extraordinarilypowerful and it's going to
completely transform everything.
And we have this time right now.
In this brief there's just abrief, like couple of years
right now that are so precious,where we can ethically have
conversations about all thestuff.
That's good.
It's small enough right nowthat we can still do this in
terms of how, what, how muchresearch and how much is
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actually rolling out the doorand being implemented, uh, into
the world, that we can actuallydo this right now.
But if we wait, if we juststand back, like we did with the
tech boom of 2000 and we justgo, oh, wow, which is what
everybody did, including thegovernment, we're going to find
ourselves in a situation thatcould actually happen, like
Terminator is actually kind ofrealistic in many ways.
(34:29):
Um, because you know, as we'veseen historically, our
scientists and our engineers andI have mad respect for them but
sometimes they get so caught upin their creation process that
they really don't.
They give themselves thisarrogance of assuming that
they'll be able to control theoutcome of everything, and we've
seen that that's not alwayspossible.
So so we can.
(34:49):
You know, right now is such animportant time where these
things that we can, it's justmanageable enough and we still
have that.
The door is still cracked.
We need to kick it in and behaving open and honest
conversations about the ethicsaround AI, about the ethics
around everything that's comingout right now the chat, gpts,
the NVIDIAs of the world and beable to not only foresee where
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it can lead, make sure that it'sbenefiting as many people as
possible, that it's ethicallydone, that it that its data is,
you know, is is respectful ofprivacy and all of that, and and
really push it to be benefitmost people.
Because one of the problems thatwe see when we go back to the
tech boom of 2000 is that thatbenefited a handful of of very
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powerful companies that have astranglehold on the world now,
like the Google and I have madrespect for Google, but Google
is way too powerful, the applesof the world.
They're massively powerfulcompanies and there should have
been more competition in there.
There should have been moreethics and if you look at what
Facebook did with CambridgeAnalytica, that should have
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never happened and there werepeople like myself who've been
screaming about the issues goingon there ethically for years
and no one was doing anythingabout it because we were making
too much money and it was toocool the new technology.
We can't have that happen again.
So I'm a I'm a big advocate forAI, but also AI safety and AI
ethics.
But but I believe that we havethis moment to engineer it.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I'm so glad that you said that.
Does America have the capacityand the willpower to have this
conversation?
Does America have the abilityto save itself from the death of
the American dream?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yes, I believe I'm a huge patriot.
I love America.
I believe that we can have anew American dream.
I believe that there are enoughAmericans in this country that
care about the country and thefuture generations and the
quality of their life experiencethat they will be willing to
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have these conversations aboutsolutions versus sound bites,
and actually get behind pushingfor solutions.
I feel that's well happeningand that's why it's so important
that it's not a politicalconversation or movement.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Thank you for that.
How do we quiet the politicalvoices while raising the voices
of the people?
Speaker 3 (37:22):
You know, I think that's goes back to the, the
purple.
I mean, I was going to call ita purple movement at this point,
because when politicians youknow nobody's more chicken shit
than a politician that seeswhich way the wind is blowing
and when we have a movement, andthat's already happening,
you're already starting to seepoliticians seeing they're.
They're starting to eyeballbecause they also have Twitter
(37:43):
or X and Tik TOK.
I keep doing that, uh and TikTOK.
They are seeing how muchhonesty is actually starting to
happen and they can see thatthere's no way to actually stop
that.
Um, the biggest mistake that thehandful of people that are in
power made was getting toogreedy.
So they were getting away withit for decades by being just
greedy enough, just unpatrioticenough, just screw everybody
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over enough, and then they hadto go and mess with people's
food, and that was their hugemistake.
They messed with the medicine,they messed with the healthcare,
they messed with jobs and thenthey had to go and mess with
people's ability to feed theirchildren, and that's that, to me
, has been the turning point andit will continue to be the
turning point as people reallybegin to absorb and acknowledge.
(38:25):
In the last two years food hasgone up 50% because the
corporations that benefit themost in this country decided to
screw over the American peopleand that was their biggest
mistake and that the politicians.
They have to be smelling thatpeople have had it.
It's time for this conversation.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I think the American people are ready for it how do
we get the American people whoare distracted?
Years ago I read this bookcalled the bloodline of the holy
grail, which is the hiddenlineage of Christ, and in it it
talked about the caesars.
And during the time of thecaesars they used to have breads
and circuses, and the breadsand circuses were the coliseum
(39:05):
with the gladiators and thelions and all that stuff, and
then they would toss bread intothe crowd to satiate the, the
hunger, the appetite of thecrowd, and the circuses was the
gladiators and the lines andpeople fighting to the death,
and all of this to distract themfrom what the senators were
doing.
Yes, it's so true.
(39:25):
So we're living in the time ofbreads and circuses.
And you know, so I call themedia conglomerate, whether it's
, you know, the sportsentertainment complex, the
political media complex.
You have all these differentcomplexes, the military
industrial complex, all thesecomplexes designed for control
(39:49):
and for distraction.
How do we get people to opentheir eyes to see that this is
really happening and that theyneed to be?
You know, now, woke is a badword.
Now right, every term that wecome up with about enlightenment
or the you know the masses comeup with about enlightenment,
(40:10):
gets turned into a bad word.
So how do we flip the scriptand make woke a good terminology
going forward?
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Uh, I don't think we can say that word at this point,
uh, uh, your language is soimportant.
I think that that, um, it wouldbe awesome to believe that you
can get people to listen whenthey're not ready, but I think
if we focus, it's just the truth.
You can't get people to hearsomething they're not ready to
hear yet.
You can't get people to changeif they're not, if they're not
(40:41):
in that in the in enough pain tochange.
But there are enough people inthis country that are in enough
pain, if you will, that areready for change, and when you
get them collectively comingtogether to create a shared
voice and a shared power thatcan force change, just by sheer
numbers and volume and voice.
What will happen withrepetition is those people who
(41:05):
weren't ready to hear willbecome more ready to hear, and
then they'll be able to opentheir ears and then they'll be
able to slowly shift in, andthen we create this sort of
groundswell that will sweep alot more people up and then we
can see a fundamental change.
I really believe that if therewas ever a time in the history
of humanity, particularly thehistory of America, where the
(41:26):
average people would cometogether apolitically and force
some seriously importantconversations, that is now, and
there was never a more importanttime in which that needs to
happen, because AI, which I'm ahuge fan of, is so powerful and
is going to be so transformative.
(41:48):
We have two options right now,and that is a much more
dystopian future, where ahandful of companies and a
handful of people control themajority of the wealth in the
world, which they already do.
But we have time now to scrapeit back by creating more
equality within artificialintelligence and focusing on the
average person's lifeexperience.
Or we can actually have thismuch more beautiful, harmonious
(42:11):
world where we're utilizing thebeauty that AI can offer, the
abundance that AI can offer, tocreate a great life experience
and career experience for theaverage people and create a
ladder for our children to climbthat they're actually excited
about, because when we destroyedthat ladder in recent decades,
we haven't given them the hopethat they need.
(42:32):
People need hope.
That is what the American dreamis.
That's why it is the soul ofAmerica, because it is the
ladder that people are willingto climb to be a part of the
system, and our youngergenerations need a ladder.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Yeah, how do you envision the world raising its
own consciousness?
Speaker 3 (42:52):
I think the people who have already benefited from
the beauty, the beautifulexperience that is raising their
human consciousness likeyourself and myself and we're
both human consciousnessadvocates by openly talking
about sharing, about havingworkshops and events around
human consciousness andspreading the understanding that
(43:13):
raising your humanconsciousness is not only a tool
for creating a beautiful lifeexperience and career experience
and family experience, but it'salso the answer to the mental
health crisis.
We have a massive global mentalhealth crisis and, as we
continue down the road with AI,that's actually going to get
worse if we don't do somethingnow.
So not only do I want toadvocate for utilizing AI in the
(43:36):
most conscious uh way for theaverage person's life experience
, but I really believe that, inparallel with that, by raising
human consciousness, uh andspreading the word and making it
a part of that same shift youknow, by educating people about
mindset and emotional and mentalmastery while we're educating
them about artificialintelligence we can raise human
(43:58):
consciousness across the planetand raise the vibration across
the planet which sounds likehoey nonsense but, as you know,
this is science, this is quantumphysics, and uh and.
by handing people the tools toraise their human consciousness,
they'll be able to manage andhandle this extraordinary change
that the world is undergoingand is going to continue to
undergo.
For the next, you know it'sgoing to just keep going, but
(44:21):
for the next five to 10 years isgoing to be mind blowing.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
What I think is really interesting.
When we talked aboutconsciousness and we talked
about mental health issues andthat globally there's a mental
health crisis, you reminded meof what happened during the
pandemic right, where there wasa really deep sense of isolation
, a tremendous amount of fear.
(44:44):
People didn't know what to do,where to go, who to trust.
And then you had conspiracytheories about the vaccine and
it didn't work.
Or it was put out by thispharmaceutical company and Dr
Fauci, blah, blah, blah, blah,right, but look what happened
post-pandemic, how people I'mpersonally witnessing there's a
(45:08):
sense of freedom that, becausepeople went through this
together, unfortunately,millions of people died around
the world, but there was a senseof let me let my hair down, let
me let my hair grow, let me letmy gray come in, let me you
know, I don't care what size Iam, who cares about body shame,
(45:30):
right?
And so you know that gives mehope.
Yeah, that me hope in in aplace where it looks hope looks
like it's a distant island, likeit's it's far, far away, it's
out of reach.
Um, so I'm going to keep and Iknow that you're going to keep
(45:53):
raising awareness and talking topeople about their inner
journey and why it's importantto have that inner journey,
because you can't have the outerjourney, self-actualize, unless
you have that inner journey.
Yes, any final thoughts as weclose?
Speaker 3 (46:10):
you know, it was something I learned the hard way
.
I spent a lot of years chasing,chasing the american dream, in
an unhealthy way.
I was trying to succeed becauseI wanted other people to
approve of me.
I wanted to, uh, to win,because I was told that that was
how I would learn to be happy.
Uh, you get the house, the car,the 2.5 kids, all of that.
(46:33):
That, that, that that version ofthe American dream, didn't
actually work for most people,because life, joy, is an
internal experience.
It has absolutely nothing to dowith your external world, and
so the circumstances of yourlife can't dictate whether or
not you're happy.
That's a choice in what youallow to repeat in your mind and
(46:57):
what you allow, um, therepeating thoughts that you
allow, uh, to generate your lifeexperience.
So that you know, we, we, wehave our thought habits, which
are usually gifted to us by ourlife experience, but mostly by
our family, and by allowingunhealthy thoughts to repeat, we
create an unhealthy mentalstate, which creates an
(47:17):
unhealthy emotional state, whichcreates an unhealthy energy in
motion, which is what emotion isand that creates your life
experience, their circumstances,and it can't be a reaction to
what's happening outside of them.
That is actually a choice thatthey make in every given day and
(47:40):
every given moment, every givenhour.
They're making that decision bychoosing what thoughts to allow
to repeat and if they practicechoosing healthy thoughts that
create a great mental state,they create a great emotional
state which creates a greatenergy in motion.
Now they're high, they're in agreat vibration and frequency
and they're enjoying life.
And if they understood thatcycle was within the palm of
(48:04):
their hand, they would be at thewheel driving their life
experience, and I think thatreally is the message that for
me is at the end of the day isthe American dream is really
important, but sharing withother people that by getting
command of that they canactually be blissful.
That's the most powerfulmessage I had to share and it's
a lesson I learned the hard way,and what I'm also hearing is
that we are in control of ourdestiny.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
It's up to us, it's our choice, and you didn't say
this, but if people don't go outand vote in their interests
instead of against theirinterests, they're going to be
putting politicians in place whowill continue to corrupt
society.
This is true.
It's up to you, it's up to usAll.
(48:45):
Right, thanks, lita, thank you.
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