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May 31, 2025 54 mins

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In this episode, Goat and Glaze continue their "Grace" series, explaining that Grace, while temporarily absent, remains a crucial part of their therapeutic podcast journey. They highlight the importance of a support system, noting that some support is public (like the podcast) and some is private. Goat shares his personal connection to Grace's struggles, emphasizing his role in supporting her through difficulties he faced alone at her age. They discuss the evolution of their podcast from aimless "bullshitting" to a therapeutic outlet for processing real-life experiences, acknowledging the challenges of scheduling guests due to their fluid schedules.

The conversation then delves deeper into the concept of trauma, particularly parental trauma. Goat recounts his shocking discovery at age 12 that the man who raised him was not his biological father, and his subsequent relationships with his biological father (who was a drug addict and died from an overdose) and his stepfather (who passed away recently). He explains how he unknowingly compartmentalized these experiences, learning about "trauma boxes" only recently through therapy. Both hosts reflect on the lack of a "parenting playbook" and the unique challenges of raising children in today's world compared to their own vastly different upbringings. Goat also shares his personal struggle with providing for his child without spoiling him, particularly concerning an anecdote about buying expensive, rare sneakers.

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