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October 16, 2025 45 mins

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When can love—and even pain—become a form of revelation?

In this powerful dialogue, Dr. Jerry L. Martin and Dr. Abigail L. Rosenthal trace the mysterious link between romantic love, moral conscience, and divine communication. Abigail shares two defining experiences of spiritual discernment: a moral act that cost her a lifelong family bond, and the unexpected moment she realized she was falling in love. Both called for the same inner movement—trusting what had her name on it.

Jerry reflects on his own “Why me?” experience of revelation, exploring how trust bridges the human and divine, and how moral courage and love alike can summon the soul toward its destiny. Together, they ask: How do we recognize the voice of God when it speaks through ordinary life? When is trust not blind, but a sacred form of clarity?

Drawing on philosophy and lived experience—from Aristotle and Husserl to the dream world of conscience—Jerry and Abigail reveal that divine communication doesn’t always arrive in thunder. Sometimes, it whispers through the courage to act, or the surrender to love.

This episode invites you into a deeply human and spiritual conversation—where reason and revelation meet the heart.

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Other Series:

The podcast began with the Dramatic Adaptation of the book and now has several series:

The Life Wisdom Project – Spiritual insights on living a wiser, more meaningful life.

From God to Jerry to You – Divine messages and breakthroughs for seekers.

Two Philosophers Wrestle With God – A dialogue on God, truth, and reason.

Jerry & Abigail: An Intimate Dialogue – Love, faith, and divine presence in partnership.

What’s Your Spiritual Story – Real stories of people changed by encounters with God.

What’s On Our Mind – Reflections from Jerry and Scott on recent episodes.

What’s On Your Mind – Listener questions, divine answers, and open dialogue. 

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