October 12, 2024 • 29 mins
Esteemed author and man of faith, Robert Hunt, joins us to confront the pervasive victim mentality overshadowing personal accountability in our society. Through his thought-provoking book, "Nobody Cares," Robert guides us on a journey to embrace personal responsibility, sharing his own compelling life story of overcoming adversity. Reflecting on the contrast between being victimized and adopting a victim mindset, Robert reveals how accountability can become a powerful path to liberation and empowerment, encouraging us to recognize where we may unintentionally fall into the victim role.
Vulnerability takes center stage as we explore its crucial role in fostering personal growth and healing. By opening up about our struggles in areas like marriage, finances, or parenting, we can invite genuine support and encouragement from those we trust. However, in a social media-driven world that often celebrates irresponsibility, finding the right people to lean on becomes essential. Our conversation serves as a call to be intentional in forming relationships that promote accountability and growth, steering clear of superficial achievements heralded by societal norms.
Inspired by the insights from Richard Swenson's book "Margin," we discuss how recognizing life's limits allows room for divine guidance and meaningful connections. Robert shares his perspective on living a balanced and purposeful life, encouraging us to slow down and seek clarity in our financial, emotional, and physical well-being. As we draw our discussion to a close, we focus on contentment as a form of entrusting our efforts to a higher power, concluding with a heartfelt prayer for a life of richness and purpose as intended by God.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello, hello and welcome to God's Diamonds in the
Rough.
So glad to be before you onemore time.
Amen.
I hope all is well.
I hope you're having a greatday, amen.
I hope that you know thateverything is going the way you
expected it to go, amen.
And if not, we know that God'sway is always better than ours.
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Hallelujah, come on, somebody.
Y'all got me and we have aguest with us today.
Amen, michael is out busy doingthings.
Amen, y'all know that happenshere sometimes, amen, he's not
always able to be here, but inspirit he's here.
Hallelujah, amen.
So back to the subject at hand.
We are going to be talkingtoday about accountability, amen
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.
So back to the subject at hand.
We are going to be talkingtoday about accountability, amen
, something that in our societytoday a lot of folk lack.
They don't want it, don't wantto have nothing to do with
accountability because it'salways somebody else's fault,
but the reality is we God holdsus accountable at the end of the
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day, Amen.
And we need to know how tohandle accountability.
So his name is Robert Hunt, amen.
He is an author, but more thananything, he is a man of God,
ready, amen, to give us what Godhas given him.
So, before we go any further,let us go ahead and pray.
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Father, we thank you so muchfor your grace and your mercy.
Thank you, god, for allowing usthis day and this time to be
able to have a conversation withyou.
I pray, god, that you wouldspeak to us in such a way that
we cannot miss you.
I pray for every diamond, everyheart that is here, god, that
they are here on purpose, forpurpose, that they will get what
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it is you desire to give them.
Father, we glorify your nameand we lift your name on high.
We pray all blessings on yourpeople, god, and we pray that
you will bless your man servantand your woman servant as we go
forth to do your will.
We pray this prayer and we askit all in the precious name of
Jesus Christ.
We do pray Amen, amen and amen,hallelujah, amen, okay y'all.
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So Robert is here and I want toask him to say, I want to ask
you, robert, to say hello to ouraudience and introduce yourself
the way you desire.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Good morning, amen.
I'm married to Kathy for 25years.
She's my beautiful wife.
I have two adult children,james and Lauren.
I live in the DFW area and Ilead groups for business owners
and CEOs every month.
That's how I make a living.
I wrote this book called NobodyCares because I wanted to
challenge people to stop playingthe role of a victim in their
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lives, and I think a lot oftimes we're not even aware that
we're playing the role of victim.
So we outline the concepts ofaccountability in the book.
We tell our own story and I'dlove to share that with you
today.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
All right.
Well, tell us about your book.
How do we get to this place ofwriting?
Nobody cares.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, we understood the principles of accountability
through this accountabilityladder that's been published
many years ago, and I taughtthis to my clients who are
business owners.
And, at the end of the day, ifyou own your own business, you
understand what it's like to beaccountable, because, whether or
not you like this or that, itdoesn't matter, it's your
business, it's yourresponsibility, and so we who
own our own business, we get it.
But the rest of the world, Ithink, often is comfortable
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playing the role of a victim.
They don't think about it, andso we outline in the book these
principles.
We decided to write the bookbecause in 2020, we watched the
world just kind of divide in alot of ways.
If you voted for Trump, I hateyou.
If you didn't vote for Trump, Ihate you.
If you voted for Trump, I hateyou.
If you didn't vote for Trump, Ihate you.
If you wore a mask, I hate you.
If you didn't wear a mask, Ihate you.
It was just a lot of anger and,at the end of the day, it was
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evident that we've lost the ideaof accountability, and so we
wanted to teach the principlesof accountability.
Kathy and I, we lived this outin our own lives, we saw how the
freedom and power that comesfrom accountability, and and so
our hope is that this book willhelp change people's lives by
helping them see where they livelife as a victim and they're
not aware of it and the toolsand the benefit of being truly
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accountable.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
So, in your own words , how would you describe victim?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Great question.
Victim is someone who isstaying frozen in the injustice
of the situation.
I was a little kid.
I grew up with a very angryfather who beat all of us kids.
We were a very poor family,five kids.
My mom had four kids when shefound out that my her husband
had did not get a vasectomy andthat the fifth kid was now
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coming, and she decided to notabort me, which I'm very
thankful for.
But we grew up very poor.
He couldn't keep a job, so thatmade him feel like a loser.
He took out his anger on us andbeat my mom and beat me, and so
I've gone through all thesethings in my life that I could
look back and say, hey, I'vebeen victimized, but I'm not a
victim.
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I grow up, I get older, I getmarried.
I'm married 10 years, have atwo-year-old daughter and my
wife decides to leave and takemy daughter and go and start her
own journey, and so I feltwronged in that moment and in
the process I went through abankruptcy, lost everything, and
I would say I was victimized,but I'm not a victim.
And so there's lots of thingsyou can see in your life that
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happened to you, that are abummer or really downright
horrible, and if you choose to,you can stay mired in that
victim's mentality or you cansay, yeah, that was wrong and
evil.
However, that does not defineme.
I am not a victim, especiallythose of us who are in Christ.
We are victorious in Christ.
That's right.
Which is one of my frustrationswith the church today is that we
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spend an awful lot of timecomplaining about how God
doesn't do this or that, or howcome God doesn't give me a
better marriage.
How come God doesn't take careof this problem?
How come I don't get a betterjob?
How come God doesn't owe usanything?
He gave us his own life.
He died on the cross to forgiveus the sins that we could never
pay.
We've been given eternal lifein the spirit of God.
We have all the power in theworld and all we do is complain
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that we don't have this or thatWe've lost our perspective.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, yeah, I agree with that 100%, because it's a
real sad thing.
I mean and you just, I mean one, two punch.
You just said it because thereality is we're victorious, but
you know, you have a mindsetthat says victim and you'll
never get where, where the Lorddesires you to get, with that
type of mindset, right.
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So can you?
We're not even aware of it.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
The reality is, you're not even aware of it.
So you lose your job.
And then you tell your friendshey, I lost my job.
And what do you do?
You blame your boss, you blameyour coworkers, you blame the
economy.
You make excuses Well, Icouldn't keep up with that job,
it was really hard.
Or I didn't know that theyexpected this.
And you make excuses that makeyou feel better about it.
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Your friends go yeah, that'snot right.
And yeah, you're right, youwere wrong.
And then we're out of work for awhile.
So we get offers for jobs andwe say, well, I can't afford to
take that job that pays me lessthan I made at the last company.
And we say we can't.
But we really mean I won't.
And we're inhibiting God to dothings through us because we
don't like it.
It's not easy, it's notcomfortable, it's not what I
want, it's not what I deserve.
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And then, at the end of thatbook, kathy and I at one point
owed $90,000 in debt, notincluding the house or the cars.
And we did that to ourselves.
But every year we kept goingokay, lord, you got to get us
out of debt, you got to bring mebusiness.
Help me grow my business, letme have the blessings.
We used to say when is Godgoing to bless our business?
And the reality is he did blessme.
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He gave me an amazing wife wholoves me.
My kids don't are living inwheelchairs.
I live in texas it's thegreatest country in america.
I have all these great thingsgoing on and all I did was want
to complain and whine and andshake my fist at god going, hey,
come on, let's get it together.
And he wasn't impressed.
And so we had to really come togrips to say at some point look,
nobody cares.
If cares.
If you're fat, broke, unhappywith your marriage, can't keep a
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job.
Nobody cares unless you careenough to do something about it.
And that's the turning point.
That's why we call that in thebook when you decide I'm not
happy with this situation andI'm going to do something about
it.
That's when you begin thejourney towards accountability.
And the process we went throughwas very hard to get out of
$90,000 of debt.
But we outline it in the bookbecause we want to teach people
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that, although something is hard, it doesn't mean it's
impossible.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Amen, amen.
So talk about your framework inregard to these steps.
You said you have some steps totake.
Correct, correct yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
So the basic outline of the book is a structure for
accountability.
At the beginning, we're prettymuch unaware of what is truly
accountable in our lives.
When we finally become awarethat there's some level of
accountability, the first thingwe do is we blame.
If blame doesn't work, we makeexcuses.
And if that doesn't work, wejust say, well, I can't.
And if I can't and the blameand excuse don't work, then we
just wait.
We wait it out, thinking, okay,maybe it'll get better.
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Making minimum payments on yourcredit card is waiting and
hoping.
Not going to a counselor, eventhough you know your marriage is
on the rocks, is waiting andhoping.
Not giving up alcohol, eventhough it's ruining your life,
is waiting and hoping.
And so we kick it down the road.
And then at some point yourealize wait, wait, wait.
Nobody cares unless I careenough to do something.
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And you decided that momentokay, I'm going to own this, I'm
going to do something.
And it's at that point youcross into the part of the
journey where you're goingsomewhere, you're not huddled in
as a victim, you're movingtowards a victorious life.
And so then at that point youneed to acknowledge reality we
talked about, like standing infront of a mirror, naked in a
360-degree mirror.
There's no hiding it.
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When you're naked, you see whatis truth, and so it does that
kind of vulnerability where yougo okay, this is what's real.
And in our case, we had to hirea financial advisor to come in
and look at the way we spentmoney and go, wow, is that how
you want to spend money in yourlife?
Well, no, why do you do it?
I don't know, and we had tohave someone who would call us
out and ask us questions.
That was vulnerability, thatwas transparency, and without
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vulnerability, you'll never haveaccountability in your life.
So when we assess the situationand we realize we have $90,000
in equity in our home we havemore than that and we could go
ahead and sell our house andstart over you have to embrace
the suck.
That's the next chapter, that'sthe next step.
Once you assess what's reality,you might realize that it sucks
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, and that's okay, because lifesucks.
There's a lot of things thatare hard, but just because it's
hard doesn't mean we don't do it.
So we embrace the suck.
We created a plan and then youmake it happen.
And in that journey of doing allthat, it was hard, but it was
hard being a victim too, exceptI had no hope.
I felt miserable.
I woke up every morningthinking, if I work my butt off
all day, I'm still never goingto get out of debt.
And I felt hopeless.
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But it was because I wasn'twilling to do the hard things.
I wasn't willing to take thesteps that were required to make
the change I wanted.
And it's not like I wasn'taware of it, I just didn't want
it.
It's not like I couldn't, Ijust didn't want it Anyway.
So we walked that journey, soldthe house, started over and we
moved into this house.
Four years later we're stillhere renting this little lovely
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home.
And we paid off all our debtand we had zero.
And that's when COVID hit andshut down the world.
And it was okay because Ididn't know any money.
I could go to Walmart and makewhatever I, whatever I make per
hour, and I wouldn't carebecause I don't know any money.
It was beautiful right, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So, uh, I had a thought in my question in my
head.
I just lost it.
The devil is a liar.
But um, you said, and in themidst of you were talking, you
said vulnerability is important.
Um, vulnerability, yeah, wedon't have accountability,
that's right.
Yeah, I mean, it's important.
Vulnerability, yeah, we wantaccountability, we want to have
accountability.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, I mean that's powerful, because a whole lot of
times we ourselves don't wantto see what's wrong, and I
believe that when Jesus said forus to give our burdens to him,
that meant, in a sense, lettinggo of all of it and being
willing to walk through the hardstuff, walking through the pain
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, walking through the aftermathof whatever was wrong and
learning, because you had tolearn, you had to start over
again, learning how to do it hisway.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Would, you agree.
And he also says to confess yoursins to one another so that you
can be healed.
And the reality is that if Itell you, hey, I'm not doing a
great job in my marriage, thenat least I have the opportunity
to do something about it.
But if I hide it and I nevertalk about it, it still remains
a cancer inside of me that's notgetting any better.
But if I can have people aroundme who love me and care about
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me and I'm willing to be honestwith them, I now have people who
will support me and pray for me, encourage me.
But in our world we love tocommiserate with one another.
If you want to complain aboutyour spouse or your kids or your
job, the whole world's going toback you up.
Yeah, your kids are rotten,yeah, yeah.
Yeah, the whole world's goingto back you up.
Yeah, your kids are rottenStuff like that.
They want to join in thecommiserating.
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But instead, if you say, look,I feel like I'm not a good
parent, I feel like a lot oftimes I lose my cool with my
kids and I don't want to be thatway, will you pray with me?
Will you encourage me?
Will you ask me how I'm doing,I'm going to do this and this
and you lay it out to them, orwhat you're going to do.
And here's a really importantprinciple no one can hold anyone
accountable.
But we can create anenvironment where I want to be
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accountable If I am vulnerable,if I'm honest enough with
someone to say I got a problemand I don't do my money.
Well, and that's embarrassing.
But would you help me write abudget?
Would you come over to my houseand look at what I spend and
help me put on a piece of paperwhat I should spend and how much
I should save?
And if they look at yourcheckbook and they look at what
you spend, wow, that's humbling,that's embarrassing.
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But if you really want to gethelp, you'll invite people into
your journey and let themsupport you.
But at the end of the day, youcould lie to them and deceive
and change the numbers and dowhatever you want.
They're not going to make yoube accountable, but they are
going to encourage you if youinvite them in.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Right, and it sounds like that's exactly what the
enemy wants us to do, andeverything that you're saying is
a place of bondage or prison,because when you don't
acknowledge what's wrong, youkeep that door locked.
That is a prison where there'smoney in your marriage dealing
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with addictions and things ofthat sort.
Those are, I call them, selfself-inflicted prisons that we
tend to put ourselves in but youknow, through his word and
through this book, it'sdefinitely.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I'm picking up that it's a way out, you know, a way
out of where you are the realityis your friends are going to
not want to encourage you in thejourney to be accountable,
because then that makes themlook bad in their own junk,
right?
You know, if you say, hey, I'mgoing to stop spending so much
money, well then I'm looking atmy life going.
Well, maybe I should spend somuch money and I like the way I
live my life.
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Sort of I don't like that.
I'm broke but I like to party.
And so if you declare you'regoing to do something that's
responsible, then I look at like, well, are you?
Are you judging me?
You know, people get all boundup in their own junk so much
they can't even support you.
So sometimes we have to findother friends, because the same
friends who encourage you to befoolish and irresponsible are
probably not the ones you'regoing to encourage you to own it
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and do what's right.
And that's not to say you don't, you just leave all your
friends behind.
But sometimes you needdifferent friends who will help
you be better than what you areat.
And you bring them in, youinvite them in, you're really
transparent.
You let you tell them what yourplans are and you let them
encourage you.
You're necessarily abandoningall your other friends, but
they're probably not the ones tohelp you be your best yeah,
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yeah, I think that, um, socialmedia does that as well.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
It, it, it aids in that idea that you know I'm
right, even though I'm wrong.
You know what I mean.
I know I'm wrong, but they saythey champion the wrong, so I
feel like I'm justified and saneand doing whatever it is that
I'm doing.
Would you agree with that?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, it is, and it's socially acceptable to be
irresponsible.
If you talk about I just boughta new house and everyone knows
how much money you make, youwork at this job, how the heck
are you getting a house?
I got a new car.
Look at this new phone.
I got People know you didn'twant you to pay cash for that,
but we brag about it, yeah, andit's like yeah, cool, good job.
So this has become like thismindset of showing me how much
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money you can get into debt forright.
It's like crazy.
But we're not talking about theother side.
Look, when I'm heavy in debt, Idon't make good decisions.
I feel stressed, and then thewashing machine breaks down and
then I get really mad.
Because the washing machinebroke down, but because I have
so much debt.
I've got a real problem here.
It affects how I treat my kidsand my spouse and it affects how
I look at the whole world.
Can I tithe and give graciouslywhen I owe a bunch of money?
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No, it's hard to be availablefor God to move in our lives
when we put them in a box andsay, hey, there's no money,
therefore you can't use me inthis area.
But if I'm responsible for themoney he's given me and all the
money I have came from God, soif I take this money and I waste
it on me or doing whatever Iwant, and then he shows up and
says, hey, your neighbor needssome money for electricity this
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month and you can't help themout because you parted your
other money, that's not usingGod's money responsibly.
That 10% we give is anopportunity to recognize who God
is.
That's the bare minimum.
The other 90% still belongs toGod.
He just let us use it.
But he wants us to beresponsible with that money and
if we just use it and then we'renot available for what he wants
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to do in our lives, that's veryselfish.
God doesn't pour more into aperson who's selfish with their
resources.
Someone who gives graciously,god's like good.
You're doing good with that,let me give you more.
But if everything you get goesto you and you party and it's
all gone, why would God give youmore?
You're irresponsible.
You don't deserve more.
You've modeled that.
You don't deserve it.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Much is given, much is required, yeah, and so nobody
cares.
If you don't care aboutyourself, I get it.
I love it.
I love that word Amen.
It's absolutely a word for ourtime, and it's a timely word
because we live in a world whereeverybody's about themselves,
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even the men and the women thatare supposed to be representing
Christ about ourselvesoftentimes.
So what other encouragement doyou have you would like to share
with the audience?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
You know, one of the things that I teach my clients
is about this idea aboutcreating margin in your life.
It's a book written by RichardSwenson.
Richard Swenson was a doctorwho saw people living life on
overload and realized hecouldn't help them be any
healthier unless they werewilling to change the way they
lived their lives.
And he wrote this whole bookabout overload and what happens
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to us in overload.
And so I've been practicing theprinciples of margin for about
six years, and what it says,what it does for me, is that it
allows God to have room in yourlife to interrupt you.
And so every day this is in thebook we measure four buckets of
stuff, because everything inlife has limits.
There's 24 hours a day, sevendays a week.
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There's a limit, there's alimit in time.
There's a limit to everything,and so if you recognize that
there's a bucket of time, money,health and emotion, and you
look at how you create room forGod to interrupt in those areas
and you live a life where Godhas the freedom to interrupt
your day, then you're ready forGod to do something in your life
.
But if you spend everything youhave in your own world, god has
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no room to use you.
So if you're super maxed out inyour calendar and there's no
time for anything, you'reworking super long days, and
then your kid needs some time,or your spouse needs some time,
or your neighbor needs time.
This morning I had breakfastwith a guy who's unemployed,
been out of a job for almost ayear, and he asked me on
LinkedIn will you meet with me?
I'm like sure, and I could buyhim breakfast and just pray with
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him and encourage him because Imanage my time and I manage my
money, and so I was able to goand care for this guy who I
don't know I know now, but hedidn't know before I was able to
interrupt my life, said go meetwith this guy and love this guy
and help him.
So we want to make sure we livea life that creates room for
God to interrupt.
Otherwise, when something comesup, we go Lord, I don't have
time or I don't have money, ormy health is bad, I can't be
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used here because I've got allthese things.
We limit God's movement in ourlife by not creating room for
him to interrupt.
That's what margin's all about,and as I pursue the life I
really want, I take ownership ofmy situation about and as I
pursue the life I really want, Itake ownership of my situation.
I own it that's accountabilityand I make the changes I need to
make so that I can live thelife I really want.
So God can interrupt mewhenever he feels like it with
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my time, my money, my health, myemotions.
I give him the room to actuallyrule in my life, versus just
visiting him on Sunday and sayI'll be back here next Sunday,
I'll check in on you again.
Let's take him with us everyday to work so that God can say
go talk to that coworker.
Right now their life is fallingapart and they need somebody who
will care for them.
Take some of the money I gaveyou and go give it to this
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organization so they can blessthese other people.
Take some time in your in yourlife to slow down and rest so
that you're ready to be a kind,caring human.
That's why the Sabbath wascreated.
All these things.
That's about margin.
I would love for people tounderstand that there's more out
there if we create margin inour lives, and margin is that in
the book as well.
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No, I talk a little bit about it, but this is the book here.
It's Margin by Richard Swenson.
Okay, it's got a parking meteron the front of it, but those
are principles that I've appliedin my life.
You know, I didn't have marginbefore.
When I was broke, I had nofinancial margin.
Therefore I had no time marginbecause in order to make up for
the fact I didn't have the money, I would work a million hours.
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And then my emotions were maxedout because even if I worked a
million hours, I still wasn'tgoing to pay off $90,000.
So I had no emotional margin.
It kept me from sleeping well,so my health wasn't good.
So my solution to all thisstress was drink more bourbon
and eat more snacks late atnight and sit up and watch TV,
not go to bed at a decent hour.
So I'm tired, I'm fat and myhealth is falling apart.
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I'm stressed.
All that because I wasn'tmanaging my time and I wasn't
managing my money.
It's all connected.
But when I took ownership forit and I became accountable and
I said I'm not living the life Iwant and I'm not available for
God's life purpose in my life, Ihad to make a change and it was
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super hard, but it's way betterthan being a victim.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
That's a powerful word, a powerful, powerful word
Um cause.
A lot of times, we don't quiteunderstand things that are
happening in our lives, and Isay this because we oftentimes
pray and we ask God for you know, patience or whatever have you,
or we ask God to help us, um,manage time or whatever have you
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, and then it always goes backto something that we never put a
word to.
But it's actually happening forme.
That is what's happening.
The Lord is making me slow down.
So, because I've been talkingto him, asking him for clarity
and understanding what, becausemy life got to a point where it
was just going so fast that Idid not have time to understand
what was happening.
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I'm like I'm out of balance,out of alignment, something's
wrong.
Lord, help me to get where youneed me to be.
And this whole process justbeen slowing down and it's just
you put word.
Once again, you're not like thefirst guest that has done that
for me.
Put words to what is happeningin my life, because I don't
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understand it.
But I thank you for that wordand I know that it's somebody
else here that needed that word.
Margins, vulnerability,accountability, ownership.
They are all power words andyou know that's the desire, the
heart of God for us.
You have a final word, anythingelse you'd like to share?
How about where we get yourbook?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
One more time.
What'd you say I?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
said how about?
Where do we get your book?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Oh well, thank you.
You can go to nobody caresbookcom.
You can buy it there.
It's always.
It's also on Amazon and Barnesand Nobles and all that stuff.
But if you buy it from me, IAmazon and Barnes and Nobles and
all that stuff.
But if you buy it from me, I'llautograph it and I'll put a
bookmark in there and a stickeryou can tag somewhere.
But more than that, I want toget you involved in our
community so we can stay intouch.
I want to hear about yourjourney, I want to encourage you
and what you're doing.
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For your podcast I created aspecific domain which is nobody
cares P O Dcom.
Nobody cares Pod, potcomNobodycarespodcom.
And if they enter the code worddiamonds into the contact form,
I will mail out a book at mycost to the first two people who
send me a contact form and thatway I can give that book away
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to people who are listening toyour show as just a way of
encouraging them in theirprocess.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Wow, that's nice.
Okay, so I got nobodycarespod.
That's where we.
Okay, so I got nobodycarespod.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
That's where we get the no, nobodycarespod,
nobodycarespodcom.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Okay, nobodycarespodcom.
Nobodycarespodcom.
Okay, and then, alright,diamond is the code word for you
, said the first two, the peoplewho sign up for as a contact
for you.
They'll receive a copy of thebook.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, and I'm not using it as a marketing thing.
It's just that I don't want tohave to give away 100 copies of
my book, so I want to cap it outto two people I know that's
right.
I know that's right.
I mailed one to Kenya last weekfrom a guy who was on a
different podcast and I didn'teven know how to get a book to
Kenya.
It cost me $35 to send a $15book to Kenya, but the guy was
listening to the podcast and I'mgoing to honor my word.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Amen, amen.
That's awesome, all right, soif you would do me a favor, did
you have a final word?
One more final word, and then Iwant to ask you to pray.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
You know, something I've been dealing with lately is
this idea of what is a good dayat work and along the lines of
margin and living the life youreally want.
If you were to say today thatI'm going to work the best I can
, staying focused andprioritizing against the things
that are important, and thenleave the results to God, then
you can stop at the end of theday and be content.
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You know, contentment is notthe absence of drive or
excellence.
Contentment is when you want todo your best to move the
results to God.
And so if you just said everyday I'm going to do my best
today with what I've got and I'mgoing to stop at five o'clock
or six o'clock, whatever yourcutoff is, and go home and live
your life and enjoy friendshipsand invest in the world around
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you, I guarantee you you willhave a better life.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Hallelujah.
Would you do us a favor andpray as well?
Pray us out of our conversation.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I'd love that.
Thank you, lord Jesus.
Thank you for this time just toget together and talk about how
do we live a life that is goingto be full and rich, one that
you created for us.
You died so that we could knowyou and walk in the freedom of
knowing the God of the universe.
So, lord, I pray for thosepeople today who feel trapped.
They are not, but they feel thatway, and we've grown up being
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comfortable with these thingsthat hold us back, their lies,
and so I pray, in the name ofJesus, that they would find
freedom, which is what you cameto give us freedom and
confidence in you.
Or that they would look attheir life and say am I living
the life I want?
And, if not, what am I willingto do to pursue the life that
God has created for me?
A life of freedom and joy andblessings to ourselves as well
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as the world around us.
A life of freedom and joy andblessings to ourselves as well
as the world around us.
We pray you would open ourhearts to hear you stirring in
our hearts and be obedient toyou.
In the name of Jesus.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Amen, Amen.
Thank you so much, Robert, forbeing here.
I so appreciate everything thatGod gave you and I appreciate
just the work that you're doingfor the kingdom.
It is awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Thank you so much.
You've got a great podcast.
I'd love to be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
We appreciate that.
Amen, all right, y'all.
Y'all know what time it is.
Please remember until the nexttime we get together that you
are a diamond in the rough.
Amen, god bless you and we willsee you on the next time.
Amen, amen and amen.
Hello, hello and welcome to God's Diamonds in the
Rough.
So glad to be before you onemore time.
Amen.
I hope all is well.
I hope you're having a greatday, amen.
I hope that you know thateverything is going the way you
expected it to go, amen.
And if not, we know that God'sway is always better than ours.
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Hallelujah, come on, somebody.
Y'all got me and we have aguest with us today.
Amen, michael is out busy doingthings.
Amen, y'all know that happenshere sometimes, amen, he's not
always able to be here, but inspirit he's here.
Hallelujah, amen.
So back to the subject at hand.
We are going to be talkingtoday about accountability, amen
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.
So back to the subject at hand.
We are going to be talkingtoday about accountability, amen
, something that in our societytoday a lot of folk lack.
They don't want it, don't wantto have nothing to do with
accountability because it'salways somebody else's fault,
but the reality is we God holdsus accountable at the end of the
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day, Amen.
And we need to know how tohandle accountability.
So his name is Robert Hunt, amen.
He is an author, but more thananything, he is a man of God,
ready, amen, to give us what Godhas given him.
So, before we go any further,let us go ahead and pray.
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Father, we thank you so muchfor your grace and your mercy.
Thank you, god, for allowing usthis day and this time to be
able to have a conversation withyou.
I pray, god, that you wouldspeak to us in such a way that
we cannot miss you.
I pray for every diamond, everyheart that is here, god, that
they are here on purpose, forpurpose, that they will get what
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it is you desire to give them.
Father, we glorify your nameand we lift your name on high.
We pray all blessings on yourpeople, god, and we pray that
you will bless your man servantand your woman servant as we go
forth to do your will.
We pray this prayer and we askit all in the precious name of
Jesus Christ.
We do pray Amen, amen and amen,hallelujah, amen, okay y'all.
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So Robert is here and I want toask him to say, I want to ask
you, robert, to say hello to ouraudience and introduce yourself
the way you desire.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Good morning, amen.
I'm married to Kathy for 25years.
She's my beautiful wife.
I have two adult children,james and Lauren.
I live in the DFW area and Ilead groups for business owners
and CEOs every month.
That's how I make a living.
I wrote this book called NobodyCares because I wanted to
challenge people to stop playingthe role of a victim in their
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lives, and I think a lot oftimes we're not even aware that
we're playing the role of victim.
So we outline the concepts ofaccountability in the book.
We tell our own story and I'dlove to share that with you
today.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
All right.
Well, tell us about your book.
How do we get to this place ofwriting?
Nobody cares.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, we understood the principles of accountability
through this accountabilityladder that's been published
many years ago, and I taughtthis to my clients who are
business owners.
And, at the end of the day, ifyou own your own business, you
understand what it's like to beaccountable, because, whether or
not you like this or that, itdoesn't matter, it's your
business, it's yourresponsibility, and so we who
own our own business, we get it.
But the rest of the world, Ithink, often is comfortable
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playing the role of a victim.
They don't think about it, andso we outline in the book these
principles.
We decided to write the bookbecause in 2020, we watched the
world just kind of divide in alot of ways.
If you voted for Trump, I hateyou.
If you didn't vote for Trump, Ihate you.
If you voted for Trump, I hateyou.
If you didn't vote for Trump, Ihate you.
If you wore a mask, I hate you.
If you didn't wear a mask, Ihate you.
It was just a lot of anger and,at the end of the day, it was
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evident that we've lost the ideaof accountability, and so we
wanted to teach the principlesof accountability.
Kathy and I, we lived this outin our own lives, we saw how the
freedom and power that comesfrom accountability, and and so
our hope is that this book willhelp change people's lives by
helping them see where they livelife as a victim and they're
not aware of it and the toolsand the benefit of being truly
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accountable.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
So, in your own words , how would you describe victim?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Great question.
Victim is someone who isstaying frozen in the injustice
of the situation.
I was a little kid.
I grew up with a very angryfather who beat all of us kids.
We were a very poor family,five kids.
My mom had four kids when shefound out that my her husband
had did not get a vasectomy andthat the fifth kid was now
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coming, and she decided to notabort me, which I'm very
thankful for.
But we grew up very poor.
He couldn't keep a job, so thatmade him feel like a loser.
He took out his anger on us andbeat my mom and beat me, and so
I've gone through all thesethings in my life that I could
look back and say, hey, I'vebeen victimized, but I'm not a
victim.
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I grow up, I get older, I getmarried.
I'm married 10 years, have atwo-year-old daughter and my
wife decides to leave and takemy daughter and go and start her
own journey, and so I feltwronged in that moment and in
the process I went through abankruptcy, lost everything, and
I would say I was victimized,but I'm not a victim.
And so there's lots of thingsyou can see in your life that
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happened to you, that are abummer or really downright
horrible, and if you choose to,you can stay mired in that
victim's mentality or you cansay, yeah, that was wrong and
evil.
However, that does not defineme.
I am not a victim, especiallythose of us who are in Christ.
We are victorious in Christ.
That's right.
Which is one of my frustrationswith the church today is that we
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spend an awful lot of timecomplaining about how God
doesn't do this or that, or howcome God doesn't give me a
better marriage.
How come God doesn't take careof this problem?
How come I don't get a betterjob?
How come God doesn't owe usanything?
He gave us his own life.
He died on the cross to forgiveus the sins that we could never
pay.
We've been given eternal lifein the spirit of God.
We have all the power in theworld and all we do is complain
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that we don't have this or thatWe've lost our perspective.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, yeah, I agree with that 100%, because it's a
real sad thing.
I mean and you just, I mean one, two punch.
You just said it because thereality is we're victorious, but
you know, you have a mindsetthat says victim and you'll
never get where, where the Lorddesires you to get, with that
type of mindset, right.
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So can you?
We're not even aware of it.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
The reality is, you're not even aware of it.
So you lose your job.
And then you tell your friendshey, I lost my job.
And what do you do?
You blame your boss, you blameyour coworkers, you blame the
economy.
You make excuses Well, Icouldn't keep up with that job,
it was really hard.
Or I didn't know that theyexpected this.
And you make excuses that makeyou feel better about it.
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Your friends go yeah, that'snot right.
And yeah, you're right, youwere wrong.
And then we're out of work for awhile.
So we get offers for jobs andwe say, well, I can't afford to
take that job that pays me lessthan I made at the last company.
And we say we can't.
But we really mean I won't.
And we're inhibiting God to dothings through us because we
don't like it.
It's not easy, it's notcomfortable, it's not what I
want, it's not what I deserve.
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And then, at the end of thatbook, kathy and I at one point
owed $90,000 in debt, notincluding the house or the cars.
And we did that to ourselves.
But every year we kept goingokay, lord, you got to get us
out of debt, you got to bring mebusiness.
Help me grow my business, letme have the blessings.
We used to say when is Godgoing to bless our business?
And the reality is he did blessme.
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He gave me an amazing wife wholoves me.
My kids don't are living inwheelchairs.
I live in texas it's thegreatest country in america.
I have all these great thingsgoing on and all I did was want
to complain and whine and andshake my fist at god going, hey,
come on, let's get it together.
And he wasn't impressed.
And so we had to really come togrips to say at some point look,
nobody cares.
If cares.
If you're fat, broke, unhappywith your marriage, can't keep a
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job.
Nobody cares unless you careenough to do something about it.
And that's the turning point.
That's why we call that in thebook when you decide I'm not
happy with this situation andI'm going to do something about
it.
That's when you begin thejourney towards accountability.
And the process we went throughwas very hard to get out of
$90,000 of debt.
But we outline it in the bookbecause we want to teach people
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that, although something is hard, it doesn't mean it's
impossible.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Amen, amen.
So talk about your framework inregard to these steps.
You said you have some steps totake.
Correct, correct yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
So the basic outline of the book is a structure for
accountability.
At the beginning, we're prettymuch unaware of what is truly
accountable in our lives.
When we finally become awarethat there's some level of
accountability, the first thingwe do is we blame.
If blame doesn't work, we makeexcuses.
And if that doesn't work, wejust say, well, I can't.
And if I can't and the blameand excuse don't work, then we
just wait.
We wait it out, thinking, okay,maybe it'll get better.
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Making minimum payments on yourcredit card is waiting and
hoping.
Not going to a counselor, eventhough you know your marriage is
on the rocks, is waiting andhoping.
Not giving up alcohol, eventhough it's ruining your life,
is waiting and hoping.
And so we kick it down the road.
And then at some point yourealize wait, wait, wait.
Nobody cares unless I careenough to do something.
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And you decided that momentokay, I'm going to own this, I'm
going to do something.
And it's at that point youcross into the part of the
journey where you're goingsomewhere, you're not huddled in
as a victim, you're movingtowards a victorious life.
And so then at that point youneed to acknowledge reality we
talked about, like standing infront of a mirror, naked in a
360-degree mirror.
There's no hiding it.
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When you're naked, you see whatis truth, and so it does that
kind of vulnerability where yougo okay, this is what's real.
And in our case, we had to hirea financial advisor to come in
and look at the way we spentmoney and go, wow, is that how
you want to spend money in yourlife?
Well, no, why do you do it?
I don't know, and we had tohave someone who would call us
out and ask us questions.
That was vulnerability, thatwas transparency, and without
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vulnerability, you'll never haveaccountability in your life.
So when we assess the situationand we realize we have $90,000
in equity in our home we havemore than that and we could go
ahead and sell our house andstart over you have to embrace
the suck.
That's the next chapter, that'sthe next step.
Once you assess what's reality,you might realize that it sucks
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, and that's okay, because lifesucks.
There's a lot of things thatare hard, but just because it's
hard doesn't mean we don't do it.
So we embrace the suck.
We created a plan and then youmake it happen.
And in that journey of doing allthat, it was hard, but it was
hard being a victim too, exceptI had no hope.
I felt miserable.
I woke up every morningthinking, if I work my butt off
all day, I'm still never goingto get out of debt.
And I felt hopeless.
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But it was because I wasn'twilling to do the hard things.
I wasn't willing to take thesteps that were required to make
the change I wanted.
And it's not like I wasn'taware of it, I just didn't want
it.
It's not like I couldn't, Ijust didn't want it Anyway.
So we walked that journey, soldthe house, started over and we
moved into this house.
Four years later we're stillhere renting this little lovely
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home.
And we paid off all our debtand we had zero.
And that's when COVID hit andshut down the world.
And it was okay because Ididn't know any money.
I could go to Walmart and makewhatever I, whatever I make per
hour, and I wouldn't carebecause I don't know any money.
It was beautiful right, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So, uh, I had a thought in my question in my
head.
I just lost it.
The devil is a liar.
But um, you said, and in themidst of you were talking, you
said vulnerability is important.
Um, vulnerability, yeah, wedon't have accountability,
that's right.
Yeah, I mean, it's important.
Vulnerability, yeah, we wantaccountability, we want to have
accountability.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, I mean that's powerful, because a whole lot of
times we ourselves don't wantto see what's wrong, and I
believe that when Jesus said forus to give our burdens to him,
that meant, in a sense, lettinggo of all of it and being
willing to walk through the hardstuff, walking through the pain
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, walking through the aftermathof whatever was wrong and
learning, because you had tolearn, you had to start over
again, learning how to do it hisway.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Would, you agree.
And he also says to confess yoursins to one another so that you
can be healed.
And the reality is that if Itell you, hey, I'm not doing a
great job in my marriage, thenat least I have the opportunity
to do something about it.
But if I hide it and I nevertalk about it, it still remains
a cancer inside of me that's notgetting any better.
But if I can have people aroundme who love me and care about
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me and I'm willing to be honestwith them, I now have people who
will support me and pray for me, encourage me.
But in our world we love tocommiserate with one another.
If you want to complain aboutyour spouse or your kids or your
job, the whole world's going toback you up.
Yeah, your kids are rotten,yeah, yeah.
Yeah, the whole world's goingto back you up.
Yeah, your kids are rottenStuff like that.
They want to join in thecommiserating.
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But instead, if you say, look,I feel like I'm not a good
parent, I feel like a lot oftimes I lose my cool with my
kids and I don't want to be thatway, will you pray with me?
Will you encourage me?
Will you ask me how I'm doing,I'm going to do this and this
and you lay it out to them, orwhat you're going to do.
And here's a really importantprinciple no one can hold anyone
accountable.
But we can create anenvironment where I want to be
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accountable If I am vulnerable,if I'm honest enough with
someone to say I got a problemand I don't do my money.
Well, and that's embarrassing.
But would you help me write abudget?
Would you come over to my houseand look at what I spend and
help me put on a piece of paperwhat I should spend and how much
I should save?
And if they look at yourcheckbook and they look at what
you spend, wow, that's humbling,that's embarrassing.
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But if you really want to gethelp, you'll invite people into
your journey and let themsupport you.
But at the end of the day, youcould lie to them and deceive
and change the numbers and dowhatever you want.
They're not going to make yoube accountable, but they are
going to encourage you if youinvite them in.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Right, and it sounds like that's exactly what the
enemy wants us to do, andeverything that you're saying is
a place of bondage or prison,because when you don't
acknowledge what's wrong, youkeep that door locked.
That is a prison where there'smoney in your marriage dealing
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with addictions and things ofthat sort.
Those are, I call them, selfself-inflicted prisons that we
tend to put ourselves in but youknow, through his word and
through this book, it'sdefinitely.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I'm picking up that it's a way out, you know, a way
out of where you are the realityis your friends are going to
not want to encourage you in thejourney to be accountable,
because then that makes themlook bad in their own junk,
right?
You know, if you say, hey, I'mgoing to stop spending so much
money, well then I'm looking atmy life going.
Well, maybe I should spend somuch money and I like the way I
live my life.
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Sort of I don't like that.
I'm broke but I like to party.
And so if you declare you'regoing to do something that's
responsible, then I look at like, well, are you?
Are you judging me?
You know, people get all boundup in their own junk so much
they can't even support you.
So sometimes we have to findother friends, because the same
friends who encourage you to befoolish and irresponsible are
probably not the ones you'regoing to encourage you to own it
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and do what's right.
And that's not to say you don't, you just leave all your
friends behind.
But sometimes you needdifferent friends who will help
you be better than what you areat.
And you bring them in, youinvite them in, you're really
transparent.
You let you tell them what yourplans are and you let them
encourage you.
You're necessarily abandoningall your other friends, but
they're probably not the ones tohelp you be your best yeah,
(15:50):
yeah, I think that, um, socialmedia does that as well.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
It, it, it aids in that idea that you know I'm
right, even though I'm wrong.
You know what I mean.
I know I'm wrong, but they saythey champion the wrong, so I
feel like I'm justified and saneand doing whatever it is that
I'm doing.
Would you agree with that?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, it is, and it's socially acceptable to be
irresponsible.
If you talk about I just boughta new house and everyone knows
how much money you make, youwork at this job, how the heck
are you getting a house?
I got a new car.
Look at this new phone.
I got People know you didn'twant you to pay cash for that,
but we brag about it, yeah, andit's like yeah, cool, good job.
So this has become like thismindset of showing me how much
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money you can get into debt forright.
It's like crazy.
But we're not talking about theother side.
Look, when I'm heavy in debt, Idon't make good decisions.
I feel stressed, and then thewashing machine breaks down and
then I get really mad.
Because the washing machinebroke down, but because I have
so much debt.
I've got a real problem here.
It affects how I treat my kidsand my spouse and it affects how
I look at the whole world.
Can I tithe and give graciouslywhen I owe a bunch of money?
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No, it's hard to be availablefor God to move in our lives
when we put them in a box andsay, hey, there's no money,
therefore you can't use me inthis area.
But if I'm responsible for themoney he's given me and all the
money I have came from God, soif I take this money and I waste
it on me or doing whatever Iwant, and then he shows up and
says, hey, your neighbor needssome money for electricity this
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month and you can't help themout because you parted your
other money, that's not usingGod's money responsibly.
That 10% we give is anopportunity to recognize who God
is.
That's the bare minimum.
The other 90% still belongs toGod.
He just let us use it.
But he wants us to beresponsible with that money and
if we just use it and then we'renot available for what he wants
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to do in our lives, that's veryselfish.
God doesn't pour more into aperson who's selfish with their
resources.
Someone who gives graciously,god's like good.
You're doing good with that,let me give you more.
But if everything you get goesto you and you party and it's
all gone, why would God give youmore?
You're irresponsible.
You don't deserve more.
You've modeled that.
You don't deserve it.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Much is given, much is required, yeah, and so nobody
cares.
If you don't care aboutyourself, I get it.
I love it.
I love that word Amen.
It's absolutely a word for ourtime, and it's a timely word
because we live in a world whereeverybody's about themselves,
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even the men and the women thatare supposed to be representing
Christ about ourselvesoftentimes.
So what other encouragement doyou have you would like to share
with the audience?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
You know, one of the things that I teach my clients
is about this idea aboutcreating margin in your life.
It's a book written by RichardSwenson.
Richard Swenson was a doctorwho saw people living life on
overload and realized hecouldn't help them be any
healthier unless they werewilling to change the way they
lived their lives.
And he wrote this whole bookabout overload and what happens
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to us in overload.
And so I've been practicing theprinciples of margin for about
six years, and what it says,what it does for me, is that it
allows God to have room in yourlife to interrupt you.
And so every day this is in thebook we measure four buckets of
stuff, because everything inlife has limits.
There's 24 hours a day, sevendays a week.
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There's a limit, there's alimit in time.
There's a limit to everything,and so if you recognize that
there's a bucket of time, money,health and emotion, and you
look at how you create room forGod to interrupt in those areas
and you live a life where Godhas the freedom to interrupt
your day, then you're ready forGod to do something in your life
.
But if you spend everything youhave in your own world, god has
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no room to use you.
So if you're super maxed out inyour calendar and there's no
time for anything, you'reworking super long days, and
then your kid needs some time,or your spouse needs some time,
or your neighbor needs time.
This morning I had breakfastwith a guy who's unemployed,
been out of a job for almost ayear, and he asked me on
LinkedIn will you meet with me?
I'm like sure, and I could buyhim breakfast and just pray with
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him and encourage him because Imanage my time and I manage my
money, and so I was able to goand care for this guy who I
don't know I know now, but hedidn't know before I was able to
interrupt my life, said go meetwith this guy and love this guy
and help him.
So we want to make sure we livea life that creates room for
God to interrupt.
Otherwise, when something comesup, we go Lord, I don't have
time or I don't have money, ormy health is bad, I can't be
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used here because I've got allthese things.
We limit God's movement in ourlife by not creating room for
him to interrupt.
That's what margin's all about,and as I pursue the life I
really want, I take ownership ofmy situation about and as I
pursue the life I really want, Itake ownership of my situation.
I own it that's accountabilityand I make the changes I need to
make so that I can live thelife I really want.
So God can interrupt mewhenever he feels like it with
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my time, my money, my health, myemotions.
I give him the room to actuallyrule in my life, versus just
visiting him on Sunday and sayI'll be back here next Sunday,
I'll check in on you again.
Let's take him with us everyday to work so that God can say
go talk to that coworker.
Right now their life is fallingapart and they need somebody who
will care for them.
Take some of the money I gaveyou and go give it to this
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organization so they can blessthese other people.
Take some time in your in yourlife to slow down and rest so
that you're ready to be a kind,caring human.
That's why the Sabbath wascreated.
All these things.
That's about margin.
I would love for people tounderstand that there's more out
there if we create margin inour lives, and margin is that in
the book as well.
(21:34):
No, I talk a little bit about it, but this is the book here.
It's Margin by Richard Swenson.
Okay, it's got a parking meteron the front of it, but those
are principles that I've appliedin my life.
You know, I didn't have marginbefore.
When I was broke, I had nofinancial margin.
Therefore I had no time marginbecause in order to make up for
the fact I didn't have the money, I would work a million hours.
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And then my emotions were maxedout because even if I worked a
million hours, I still wasn'tgoing to pay off $90,000.
So I had no emotional margin.
It kept me from sleeping well,so my health wasn't good.
So my solution to all thisstress was drink more bourbon
and eat more snacks late atnight and sit up and watch TV,
not go to bed at a decent hour.
So I'm tired, I'm fat and myhealth is falling apart.
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I'm stressed.
All that because I wasn'tmanaging my time and I wasn't
managing my money.
It's all connected.
But when I took ownership forit and I became accountable and
I said I'm not living the life Iwant and I'm not available for
God's life purpose in my life, Ihad to make a change and it was
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super hard, but it's way betterthan being a victim.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
That's a powerful word, a powerful, powerful word
Um cause.
A lot of times, we don't quiteunderstand things that are
happening in our lives, and Isay this because we oftentimes
pray and we ask God for you know, patience or whatever have you,
or we ask God to help us, um,manage time or whatever have you
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, and then it always goes backto something that we never put a
word to.
But it's actually happening forme.
That is what's happening.
The Lord is making me slow down.
So, because I've been talkingto him, asking him for clarity
and understanding what, becausemy life got to a point where it
was just going so fast that Idid not have time to understand
what was happening.
(23:22):
I'm like I'm out of balance,out of alignment, something's
wrong.
Lord, help me to get where youneed me to be.
And this whole process justbeen slowing down and it's just
you put word.
Once again, you're not like thefirst guest that has done that
for me.
Put words to what is happeningin my life, because I don't
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understand it.
But I thank you for that wordand I know that it's somebody
else here that needed that word.
Margins, vulnerability,accountability, ownership.
They are all power words andyou know that's the desire, the
heart of God for us.
You have a final word, anythingelse you'd like to share?
How about where we get yourbook?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
One more time.
What'd you say I?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
said how about?
Where do we get your book?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Oh well, thank you.
You can go to nobody caresbookcom.
You can buy it there.
It's always.
It's also on Amazon and Barnesand Nobles and all that stuff.
But if you buy it from me, IAmazon and Barnes and Nobles and
all that stuff.
But if you buy it from me, I'llautograph it and I'll put a
bookmark in there and a stickeryou can tag somewhere.
But more than that, I want toget you involved in our
community so we can stay intouch.
I want to hear about yourjourney, I want to encourage you
and what you're doing.
(24:32):
For your podcast I created aspecific domain which is nobody
cares P O Dcom.
Nobody cares Pod, potcomNobodycarespodcom.
And if they enter the code worddiamonds into the contact form,
I will mail out a book at mycost to the first two people who
send me a contact form and thatway I can give that book away
(24:56):
to people who are listening toyour show as just a way of
encouraging them in theirprocess.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Wow, that's nice.
Okay, so I got nobodycarespod.
That's where we.
Okay, so I got nobodycarespod.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
That's where we get the no, nobodycarespod,
nobodycarespodcom.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Okay, nobodycarespodcom.
Nobodycarespodcom.
Okay, and then, alright,diamond is the code word for you
, said the first two, the peoplewho sign up for as a contact
for you.
They'll receive a copy of thebook.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, and I'm not using it as a marketing thing.
It's just that I don't want tohave to give away 100 copies of
my book, so I want to cap it outto two people I know that's
right.
I know that's right.
I mailed one to Kenya last weekfrom a guy who was on a
different podcast and I didn'teven know how to get a book to
Kenya.
It cost me $35 to send a $15book to Kenya, but the guy was
listening to the podcast and I'mgoing to honor my word.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Amen, amen.
That's awesome, all right, soif you would do me a favor, did
you have a final word?
One more final word, and then Iwant to ask you to pray.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
You know, something I've been dealing with lately is
this idea of what is a good dayat work and along the lines of
margin and living the life youreally want.
If you were to say today thatI'm going to work the best I can
, staying focused andprioritizing against the things
that are important, and thenleave the results to God, then
you can stop at the end of theday and be content.
(26:27):
You know, contentment is notthe absence of drive or
excellence.
Contentment is when you want todo your best to move the
results to God.
And so if you just said everyday I'm going to do my best
today with what I've got and I'mgoing to stop at five o'clock
or six o'clock, whatever yourcutoff is, and go home and live
your life and enjoy friendshipsand invest in the world around
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you, I guarantee you you willhave a better life.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Hallelujah.
Would you do us a favor andpray as well?
Pray us out of our conversation.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I'd love that.
Thank you, lord Jesus.
Thank you for this time just toget together and talk about how
do we live a life that is goingto be full and rich, one that
you created for us.
You died so that we could knowyou and walk in the freedom of
knowing the God of the universe.
So, lord, I pray for thosepeople today who feel trapped.
They are not, but they feel thatway, and we've grown up being
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comfortable with these thingsthat hold us back, their lies,
and so I pray, in the name ofJesus, that they would find
freedom, which is what you cameto give us freedom and
confidence in you.
Or that they would look attheir life and say am I living
the life I want?
And, if not, what am I willingto do to pursue the life that
God has created for me?
A life of freedom and joy andblessings to ourselves as well
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as the world around us.
A life of freedom and joy andblessings to ourselves as well
as the world around us.
We pray you would open ourhearts to hear you stirring in
our hearts and be obedient toyou.
In the name of Jesus.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Amen, Amen.
Thank you so much, Robert, forbeing here.
I so appreciate everything thatGod gave you and I appreciate
just the work that you're doingfor the kingdom.
It is awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Thank you so much.
You've got a great podcast.
I'd love to be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
We appreciate that.
Amen, all right, y'all.
Y'all know what time it is.
Please remember until the nexttime we get together that you
are a diamond in the rough.
Amen, god bless you and we willsee you on the next time.
Amen, amen and amen.
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