81: A Four-Step Prayer That Creates Miraculous Healing 90% of the Time with Beatty Carmichael

Did you know that pain, sickness, or even chronic illness could have a spiritual root? What if healing isn’t just about asking God, but stepping into the authority He’s already given you?

In this powerful episode, we sit down with Beatty Carmichael, a man who has witnessed hundreds of miraculous healings—from pain instantly vanishing to life-threatening diseases disappearing completely. But here’s the twist: Beatty’s journey into healing wasn’t just about prayer. God revealed that true healing often comes through breaking spiritual strongholds, confession, and reclaiming our authority in Christ.

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✔️ Why 90% of people Beatty prayed for experienced healing—and how you can too

✔️ A step-by-step healing prayer you can apply today for breakthroughIf you’ve ever wondered, “Does God still heal today?” or if you’re seeking healing for yourself or a loved one, this episode is for you. 🙌

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Episode Transcript

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Did you know that unhealed pain, sickness, or even chronic illness could be tied to something

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deeper, something spiritual? What if healing isn't just about asking God, but stepping into the
authority He's already giving you? Today we're talking with Beatty Carmichael, who has witnessed
hundreds of miraculous healings, from pain disappearing instantly to life-threatening
diseases being completely healed. But here's the twist. God shifted how He works through Him,

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showing that healing isn't just about prayer, it's about breaking spiritual strongholds,
confession, and reclaiming the authority we have in Christ. In this episode, Beatty shares
powerful testimonies of healing and walks us through a step-by-step healing prayer so you
can experience breakthrough. If you've been asking, does God still heal today? Or if you need healing

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for yourself or a loved one, this episode is for you. Get ready to learn, pray, and step into the
healing God has for you. Let's dive in. Hey there, welcome to the God's goodness podcast.
We are your hosts, Josh and Shelly Hankins, and we're here to share real stories of God's power,

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stories of hope, healing, and miracles that will strengthen your faith. No matter what you're
walking through, we want to remind you that God is good and He's still moving today. Let's dive in.
Before we dive into all of that, we'd love to start our episodes by inviting God into the
conversation. So, Beatty, would you mind opening us up with a quick prayer?

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I would love to. Oh, thank you for this time, and we ask that your message be clearly communicated
and that your will be clearly done through it, and that you would guide both me and Shelley and
Josh in this conversation so that you are glorified in all of it. And I'll list this in Jesus' name.
Amen. Amen. Thank you, Beatty. Now, we're really excited to have you on today because your story

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is so unique. You've seen God move incredible waves, especially in the area of healing. So,
let's start at the beginning. Can you tell us a little bit about the start of that journey,
that defining moment when you clearly saw God's hand leading you, especially into this healing
ministry? Well, the start of the journey, and when I first saw God's healing hand, are two

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different points. So, the start of the journey was almost 200 years ago because I come from a line of
seven generations of medical doctors, and these are guys who heal through the science of medicine.
I never went into medicine. I went into business, and then nine years ago is when I picked up on

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that. And I go back to the seven generations because it's real interesting, Shelley, when you
look at how God does things, there is a pattern. And the pattern for me is there is like this
mantle of healing that's been coming down through the generation. So, what's happened with me,

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and the story that the Lord has given me, wasn't something that just started a few years back for
me. It's actually a mantle that I've realized that my family lineage has been carrying for
generations, and I'm just carrying it on. The difference is I'm now doing it a little bit
differently. They did it through science of medicine, and in a very tongue-in-cheek way,

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you could say I'm now doing it through the science of prayer. But, yeah, so nine years ago, I was
going to a very legalistic church, a cessationist church. They don't believe in God doing anything
supernaturally through human hands anymore. That's sad. You know, the idea is, well, God can do it,
but he normally doesn't. That's kind of the concept. And I was pulled up a video on Netflix of all

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places. I don't think it's on Netflix anymore, but this video was basically a documentary. It was a
three-part series of documentaries of people going out and just praying for people at random
and today, you know, in this generation, and people getting healed. And I'd never seen that before.

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I was blown away, and there's something that caught me deep down in my heart that I couldn't get enough
of it. I watched all of the videos that were in that series. I think I went back and probably watched
them again. I started to pursue this because it was like, have you ever had something that maybe

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it was a dream you had and it just kind of died away because nothing ever really happened. And then
something popped up and all of a sudden that dream was awakened for you and you realized, oh, I can
do this now. That was sort of the thing, except my dream was never to go out and be anything on the

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healing side. But there was something that was awakened in me. And I can only say that this was
the mantle that's been coming down through my generations. And I was just gripped by this whole
idea of God supernaturally healing people. But where I grew up in church, it was never God's will

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necessarily that someone always be healed. And the way we would pray at church, when someone has all
kinds of sickness or anything, it would be, Lord, please heal this person if it be your will.
It's like, you know, it may be God's will that you stay sick because God may have brought this
cancer upon you to teach you something. That was the attitude and the idea. So I was raised in that

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environment. And when I started seeing people being healed, literally almost every time someone
prayed for them, I had a real challenge with that because the challenge was, well, I thought sometimes
God wanted them to be sick. That's what my church believed, because they leaned on that prayer. I
think it's somewhere in one of the John's, like 1st John, 2nd John. But it says, and we know that if

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we pray according to God's will that He hears us. And if He hears us, we know that we have that for
which we prayed for. So like fast forward real quick, I'm going to jump over one of my friends,
family friends, she was dying of cancer and her husband is a pastor. They've been
pastoring for like 20 years at this point. And the Lord had given me this thing called a gift

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of healing. I want to go pray for her. And the husband said, no. I said, why? He said, we've had
thousands and thousands of people pray for her. And if it was God's will for her to be healed, she
would have been healed. And I don't mean to laugh, but it was, from my perspective now,

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I've learned so much more that it's sad. Because we come to this conclusion,
that's what the scripture seems to say. And so we close off any idea that it could be
anything different but that. And what happens in man's interpretation of scripture is we
interpret it with our own paradigms and our own lenses. And we come to conclusions that are hard

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and fast and allow no room for mystery. And once we do that, then we close down all opportunity to
really press in and experience more of what God has for us because we determined it's impossible
and that's not what scripture says. So that's the perspective that I came from. And when I started

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to see these people being healed on these documentary videos, then the first thing I had to reckon
with was, is it really God's will to heal? Because if he only heals periodically, only when it's his
will, and if it's like my church, please heal this person, is it be your will and no one ever got

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healed, then when I saw these people going out and just praying for people wherever they were,
and they were getting out of wheelchairs or whatever the issue was that they were dealing with,
disappear, then something obviously was happening because it seemed like maybe it was God's will
for all of them to be healed. So now I was reconciling with what's the difference between what they're

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doing and what my church has been doing because there was a stark difference. So I started to take
a deep dive into scripture and understanding, is it God's will to heal? Because that was a big
impediment. I was told it's not always his will. But as I started to search the scriptures and

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started to look at every example, when someone comes up to Jesus and says, will you heal me?
Jesus never turned them away. Now he pushed back on some of them like the widow inside and I think
maybe not a widow but the mom whose daughter was demonized. And he said, only came for the children

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of Israel. She said, yeah, but even the dogs eat the bread that falls from the kids table.
And Jesus says, then let your daughter be healed according to your faith. So he never turned anyone
away. And when I started to connect some dots, then number one, Jesus healed everyone who asked

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him to heal them. Number two, Hebrew says that Jesus is the exact imprint of God the Father,
that he is the exact representation. And Jesus said, I only do my Father's will. So when I started
to connect all those dots, it became very clear to me that it was God's will to heal. And it wasn't

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any of this, you know, heal if it be your will. He's already stated in the clear in scripture
that it was his will. And that revolutionized me. It took me about six months to get to that point.
I wanted so deeply and passionately to go pray for people and just try this out. Try to do the

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same thing I saw in those videos and see if God would heal. But I knew that if I was going to
pray for healing, I had to pray by faith because only by faith does God do anything. And I
when I started that journey nine years ago, I didn't have faith that God would heal when I prayed

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because I had no faith that it was God's will to heal. Once I came to the conclusion,
it was absolutely God's will to heal. And I'm going to say anytime I say something that is
an absolute fact as it relates to God, I may not always verbalize this, but this is my intent.
Generally speaking, it's always God's will to heal. Because if you got someone that's at 120

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years old, the iron of cancer, I'm not sure it's really God's will to heal that person because
he says it'll be given to man 120 years and then he shall die. But if I've got a 20 year old
dying of cancer, then I can say I really believe it's God's will to heal that one
one because it's not his time yet. So anytime we deal with God, or at least for me, it's always

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like a generally speaking. So when I saw that he, it was his will to heal, it took about six months
and now I was ready. I was absolutely convinced it was God's will to heal. I was convinced that he
heals frequently. And I wanted what the Bible calls a gift of healing. And it was just like a

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passion. It's like something that the Lord was driving me into. So it was October 2016. I was at
a convention, a conference. I started going to some conferences to learn more about this because
my church, as I mentioned, they rejected all this. I went outside of my church area and started

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plugging into some of these conferences and trying to learn from these people that are doing it.
And it was at that one of those conferences that something hit me and we were at a break on Saturday
and I said, let's just go out to Walmart and places and let's start praying for people. I had
my two of my kids with me. We went out. I started praying for people and I saw a third of everyone

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I prayed for instantly and completely healed. It was all pain related stuff at that time. But I
remember one of them, she was writing, it was in Walmart and she was writing one of those electric
scooters that they give their customers for those who have disabilities. And she had this sort of
like a nurse assistant. She wasn't dressed. She wasn't like a nurse dressed in a white out. So you

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could tell that she was an assistant helping this little old lady get things off the shelf. So I
walked up to her and said, excuse me, I see that you're in a scooter. But you have pain. And she
said, yes. I said, tell me what's going on. I'd like to pray for you. And she said, I had degenerative
discs in my neck. And so she couldn't lift her head. She had degenerative discs in her back, lower

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back, so she couldn't bend over. She had arthritis. So she was aching all over and she had, I recall
correctly, she had lupus. So she was kind of wracking pain. And so I prayed for her like, you know,
maybe a 10 or 20 second prayer. And I said, so how does it feel now? She starts moving. I said, I
don't feel any pain. I'm kind of blown away. I had her stand up and do things that she wouldn't

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normally have been able to do. She was able to bend all the way over, move her head all the way around,
back and forward and up and down. And she said, I haven't been able to do this in years. And, you
know, for me, it was like, I just met this person. So was it really this bad? So I started asking the
nurse assistant that was with her. And she said, you know, her eyes were bugged open. She said,

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sort of like a young 20s woman. And she said, I've been helping her for a couple of years. I've never
seen her do this. And that started the process for me. So that was the beginning of what happened
with me. Wow. I don't know if I was that nurse's assistant. I might have been a little upset
that you took my job away. I know, really. Wow. Like, was there a moment you realized this was

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something God wanted you to step into fully? Well, you know, anything that God does, it's usually
gradual, sort of like you put that frog in the pot of water and you gradually turn up the heat.
Yeah. So he had much bigger plans for me than I understood. But this was the beginning. And,
you know, one of the things I've learned about how God does things, if he doesn't reveal everything

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right up front, he reveals that it's like, you know, you see the passage in Psalms that says,
God's word is a lamp to our feet and the light to our path. And what that means is the Hebrew
Hebrew words for lamp is like a candlelight. It's very dim. And on the pathway, it uses the same

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word that we would use for the sun. It's very bright. So the farther out in the future, God's
word is super, super clear. And you can see the path. But the closer it gets to your individual
steps, it's very dim. It was just the opposite with this. With this, God never lit the path. It's
like God was lighting my footstep, but the path was really dim. I didn't know where it was going,

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but I could tell right now what I needed to be doing, which is this burning desire to learn,
come to the conclusion of God's will, then the desire to start praying for people.
And then he kept revealing more as I continued to press in. So it wasn't until
really sometime last year after I wrote my book that I really started to get the bigger picture

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of where he was sending me. But it was a journey because there was a lot that I had to learn.
And a lot of, I call it testing God's spiritual laws, you know, the science of prayer and the
science of prayers, how you proving out the patterns of prayer that consistently work,
which sounds kind of crazy. A lot of times we think that prayers, we just were asking

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God and it's kind of up to him to then answer the prayer. But God tends to be very consistent.
He works in patterns. And just as we have physical laws that he's put in place, like gravity or
thermodynamics, things of that sort, I've been able to identify empirically through observation,

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spiritual laws that are in place. Because what I've started to see with this whole healing process is
they're very clear laws with very clear outcomes. And if we have a pain or sickness,
or we have an ailment like maybe a glaucoma or cataracts, or we have relationship struggles

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all the time in the family, or there's abuse or things, all of these are tied to these spiritual
laws. And all these spiritual laws, there's a source of the problem. That source is usually
some form of sin somewhere in our life or generationally. And the solution to it is repentance.
Because when you start to, when you identify that root and repent of it, I'm seeing, I see miracles

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all the time. And just kind of catch you up to date on a couple of things that I've been doing.
So when I started praying for people, one third were being healed, then within about a year, as I
continue to press in, 90% of the people I was praying for were healed. And I keep good records.
I'm a numbers guy in marketing. I'm always testing one thing versus another. So I was doing the same

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thing in my, in this timeframe when I had the gift of healing. And so I would go out on Saturdays,
and I want to say 90% of people here healed just to bring clarity of what I'm talking about. I'm not
going to the hospital and going to the cancer wards and praying for people. I'm going out to
Walmart. Yeah, I was wondering where you were going for all these, where you were trying this out.

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Yeah. So, right. So, you know, I have my full-time business is we help real estate agents generate
listings. And it's a company called agent dominator.com. And so I'm running my business during the
day and during the week. But on the weekends, I would go down to Walmart and just go out and pray
for people. Literally, I would just walk up two or three hours on a Saturday and I would just walk

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them say, Hey, I'm not praying for people is there anything you need prayer about? My thought was,
this is a great introduction to share the gospel because I knew that God would have the person
say, Yes, if God was working in their heart. And if it wasn't someone God was working with,
they would say no and never bothered me if they said, Yes or no. It's just to just walk up and

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pray for them on whatever they wanted prayer for. And then I would use it to ask that they
basically an evangelistic approach. You know, Hey, if you were to die tonight, you know, if you'd
go to heaven and if they said, Yes, you know, why do you think God would let you in? And that story
helps you understand what their understanding of scripture is. We call that the gospel winning

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secret. Yeah, exactly. I learned it in E evangelism, explosion is where I picked that one up.
So what was interesting, I thought God was giving me this gift so I could go win more people to
Christ. But like 90 or 95% of people I pray for were already Christians. And so I started realizing
God gave me this gift for other purposes. And a lot of it is to help his own children get free.

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So I started pressing, I saw 90% of the people I prayed for healed. When I was only seeing a third
of the people pray getting healed, it was usually just pain related stuff. So you have the lots of
degenerative this type of thing, lots of arthritis type of things, neuropathy related type of pains.

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And the normal back pain, knee pain, hip pain, ankle pain, a little joints and stuff.
But then as I started to move into getting into 90% healing, I started to see a lot more things.
Glaucoma, Daffy's a couple of times. The one thing I was having the most difficult with like it

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at a Walmart CLPD, you know, the guys going through with the little oxygen tank on there
carrying around. And I started to win on that until the Lord gave took away my gift. But I kept
pressing in because I knew that that something was blocking it, right? Because if Jesus had prayed
for those people, they would have been healed. So what's the difference? And then about the same

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time I was hitting 90% a year into praying for people, the Lord started taking me into
deliverance ministry, which is very simply casting out demons. And I started to see a pattern over the
years that the same healings I saw when I would take someone through deliverance and all their,

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all kinds of issues would disappear out of their lives. That was disappearing because a spirit
left. And the Lord started to reveal to me that when I was praying for people with my gift of
healing, and they were instantly healed, it was also a spirit leaving that it had something to do
with not just a physical issue, even though there was a true physical manifestation. I remember one

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guy, he torn all the ligaments in his left knee. And it was extremely painful. He was walking on
crutches. And just a couple of minutes, he was doing deep knee bends and it was completely healed.
So you say that that was, it was a physical issue. Yes. But there was a spiritual root behind it.
Because when the spiritual side of it was handled, then the miraculous side of the

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instant recovery occurred. And that's what I started seeing with my gift is as I prayed for people,
the Lord started to impress on me that it was the same thing with deliverance. It was a spirit.
And then one day this takes me now like three years ago, I went back out to Walmart, I was praying
for people. And I, in a two week period of time, I went from 90% success rate in healing to 10%.

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That's a shift. Sorry going, oh my, yeah. It was a, it was concerning.
Yeah. It's like, um, like you did something. I knew I hadn't done anything to anger God. Well,
there, but it was, how can I say, I knew something happened. So I learned to just go ask God.

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And by the way, some of the stuff that was happening during this time was understanding how do you
hear God clearly? Because when I began on this process, when I heard God, it was usually like
a little nudge in my heart. And by the time that I was pressing in and I started to get a lot higher

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healing rate, and especially when he took my gift away, it was, I would ask God and I would hear
complete sentences, you know, a totally different shift in the clarity of hearing God's voice in
your life. Because God speaks to all of us. The question is, have we learned to interpret it?
Have we learned to really hear what he says? Yeah. He speaks to everyone differently. So at that point,

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well, he does, but everyone can start to hear him as clearly as if he's speaking to, as clearly as
you and me, because it all has to do with intimacy and understanding the language.
And there's some, again, these are the spiritual laws that I started to recognize. And now I'll just
tell you the biggest spiritual law on all of this, not spiritual law, but the practice that ties into

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these spiritual laws. And that is fasting. When I went from roughly one third of the people I'd be
praying for were healed to 90% the one significant shift between those two, because it happened
like within a week or two. I mean, it was like, when it happened, I was like, oh my gosh, what

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just happened? You know, I've never seen this many people healed this quickly. But all of these,
I mean, everything was like multiplied. And I was asking the Lord what happened. And he said, well,
it was the fasting. Because on that particular Saturday, when I went out in business for years,
I'd been taking one day a month off on Friday to just spend with the Lord. And when I did that,

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I would fast for the day. It was my time to just have time with the Lord, give Him
part of my business and entrust it to Him and just spend time with Him. But he started directing me
too fast during that timeframe. So I would eat Thursday night, and then I would take my day of
prayer, is what I called it on Friday. And this particular Saturday, when I went out, when everything

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shifted, I went back and look and thought, oh, that's the key. I was fasting, because I was now 36
hours of fasting when I went and prayed for people. And that made all the difference. I tested it
a couple of times. I prayed for people without fasting. Then I prayed for people with fasting.
And the difference was like night and day. It was amazing. In fact, when I was doing a

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deliverance for this one guy, it would normally take me several hours of just quiet time and
focus on the Lord and just kind of settling my heart before I could come to the point that I
could ask them. I would always have a list of questions where I would could then start asking
questions and start to sense his answer to me. But on this one day, I was preparing to do a

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deliverance with a guy that I was really worried about, because he was out on demon infested.
It was just a really difficult time. And I was fasting for six days, six days, water only.
And then I started to ask the Lord on something a week later. And I had my list of questions.

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And even before I could settle my heart, he just started spouting off all these answers in long
sentences and paragraphs. I mean, literally, I was just taking dictation as fast as I could.
And it was so super, super clear. I heard everything he was telling me in very clear words.
And I said, Lord, what happened? I've never heard you this clear, nor this quickly.

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He said it was the fasting. And so fasting is an amazing thing that you can do to enhance the
overall growth in your spiritual life. And that's what happened with that 90%. That's also very
important in how deliverance is done. So there's a lot of these things that started to happen. So
when I maintain that fasting attitude for the next number of years, as I had the gift of healing,

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so when my healing rates went from 90% to 10%. And I was a little concerned, a little taken
questioning on that first thing I did, I just went to the Lord and he very clearly said,
I said, God, what just happened? And he said, Well, I took away your gift of healing.
I said, Why did you do that? Because he said, Now I want you to learn to do it by authority.

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And I understood what he meant by that. I know. What does that mean?
Yeah, that's what I'm going to share. So it means to take the legal rights away
from the tormenting spirit. So now let me back you up to bring you up to that point.

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In deliverance, the way that you do deliverance, and let me also be very careful because I don't
know your audience and stuff. I can kind of sugarcoat this and make it real simple or just
give you the raw facts. What level? How should I be on this? Because I want to start talking about
we want raw facts because this is God's heart as possible. You know, this is we're not we're at

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war. It's spiritual war. And this is just going to be one of the tools in the tool belt that is
going to help our audience grow spiritually. Perfect. The way you do deliverance, the way I
was taught and there are different methods. They all ultimately go to the same point.
But the Lord taught me this process because it was instrumental in what led into why we're

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doing this call. So there's four steps in doing a deliverance. Step one, you identify the demon
spirit. Step two, you identify its legal right. Step three, you repent of that legal right.
Step four, you command the spirit out and help you understand legal rights. If you look at the

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Bible, every time God is mentioned, not every time, but frequently when God is mentioned,
he's mentioned as a judge. You'll see him sitting on a throne. He has his robes. He's a king. He is
the sovereign ruler of all. And the way the process works is the highest legal person in the kingdom

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is the king. This is why, like when Paul was being falsely accused by the Jews and he was getting
nowhere, he said, well, I appeal to Caesar. What that means is the highest level you can go in the
Roman kingdom to have your case heard before the highest judge was Caesar himself. God is the same

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way. He is a judge and there are rules. If he's a judge, then there are rules and processes that he
judges through. This is, we see the concept of the law. Those are rules. There are spiritual laws that
are outside of all of that that govern everything. And one of the spiritual rules is this whole idea

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of how someone becomes demonized. When you open up the door in sin, you can allow a demon spirit
to come in and torment you. So let me connect some dots. First dot is Matthew 18. This is the,
I think it starts halfway through the chapter. And it's the parable of the unmerciful servant.

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It's talking about unforgiveness. Unforgiveness is simply a type of unrepentant sin. So the story
line on the parable on how this works is Peter comes up to Jesus and says, how many times should I
forgive my brother up to seven times? And Jesus says, no, not seven times, but 70 times seven.

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And Jesus then says, the kingdom of heaven is like, and he says, a king who has a servant who owes him
lots of money, the servant can't pay. So the king gets upset, is going to throw him in a prison. The
servant says, have mercy on me. And so in compassion, the king forgives him his debt. Then that servant

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goes to a little servant of his, says, give me my money. And it's only a trifle amount. He says,
I can't pay yet, but I will. He said, no, you go to prison. So he throws the guy into prison.
And all of his friends get upset. They go to the king and says, King, can you intervene? Look what
this guy's just did. So the king calls the big servant back into the room and says, you wicked

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servant, you unmerciful servant, I forgave you, you should have forgiven him. Therefore, I'm going
to throw you into the dungeon to be tortured until you repay everything you owe. Now, if you read
this in the ESB, it only says, I'll turn you over to the jailer. But if you look at the

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footnote on that, it will also say, in some manuscripts include torture. So what's happening
is the Greek word for jailer being used means one who elicits the truth through use of the rack.
So a torture device. And the word jailer comes from the Greek word bassaniso as a root word

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for jailer. And bassaniso means to torture. So this whole picture of the king turning this
unmerciful servant over to the jailer is entirely about torture and torment. That word
bassaniso is used 12 times in the New Testament. So it's not, but every time it's tied to pain,

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it's tied to mental anguish, it's tied to things like paralysis or being lain, all these things
that we would call torments. And how this connects into the demon world and our personal lives.
It is the last statement Jesus gives in this section. And he is speaking not to the Pharisees,

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not to the Jewish people that just naturally kind of the crowd that come around him,
but he's speaking to his personal disciples, the people you and I would call
born again believers. They weren't born again yet, but they were believers. They were
the disciples of Christ. And Jesus says, so too will my heavenly father do to you,

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meaning turn you over to the tormentors to be tortured if you do not forgive your brother
or sister from your heart. In other words, Jesus is making very clear that if we do not
forgive or repent of unforgiveness, so unforgiveness is a type of unrepentant sin.

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If we do that, then the consequences God himself turns this over to these tormentors.
And the way that that is turned over is anytime you go before a judge and you're found guilty,
the judge places a judgment against you and that judgment is now the legal authority
for you to be taken to prison. That's the same thing that's happening here. When we have an

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unrepentant sin, there is a legal authority given to the dark world, the demonic spirits,
to bring torment into our lives until that legal right is removed. So that's the premise
of how deliverance works. So when I would do deliverance with someone, then the first step

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I would do is I would say, Lord, I would ask that you bring up the first demon spirit you want me
to address. And then I would speak to that spirit through the person sitting there and usually the
spirit will speak to the person inside the person's mind. That's a demon spirit. Identify yourself

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because I want to know his name. If you don't know the name, then you can't do anything with it.
And this ties into how this whole process of healing with the prayer of freedom ultimately
works. But the spirit would identify itself and say his name is Seth. And then I would ask,
what is your legal right? So now I'm interrogating him. And with this one guy,

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sorry for the connection, it's just kind of funny. But this one guy whose demon's name was Seth was
actually the guy who was doing the deliverance on was a guy named Josh. And Seth said, playing with
the, I said, Seth, what is your legal right? And Seth was the key demon in Josh's life.
Josh was, his life was just all torn up. He was 32 years old. Everything he did fell apart. He

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kept losing job after job after job. He was in poverty, always under this heavy weight, mentally,
and just totally burdened. And he asked me to help him. So the first demon that the Lord brought up
is Seth. And Seth was what's called a gatekeeper demon, which is basically the one that opens the
door to let others in. He's a very significant demon in someone's life because he's usually the

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source of where all the other problems come from. And that's Seth. So Seth was the first one that
had come into Josh's life. And I said, what is your legal right? He said, playing with a Ouija
board at seven years old. And I said, Josh, what is he talking about? He said, Josh, I didn't do it.
I didn't want anything to do with that Ouija board. He knew exactly what happened in when. I mean,

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it was like clear as day. He, he ought, he knew it. And he said, my sister was playing with the Ouija
board and she communicated to me through it. And what that means, he was just kind of leaning
over and watching that thing to spelling out the words to see what it was saying to him.
That little bit of participation for probably one minute or less was the source of the rest of all

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of his challenges. So I had Josh repent of playing with the Ouija board. Then I went back to Seth.
I said, Seth, do you have any other legal right? And he said, no. So that was step three, repent.
Step four is command out. So now in Jesus' name, I can manage you out. And this was the process.

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Every time that you would do, I would do the deliverance. It was interrogate a demon,
find out the legal right. The legal right is always 100% of the time, an unrepentant sin.
So then I go and get the host, the person I'm ministering to, to repent of that sin. And then
you can get the spirit out. So when God took away my gift of healing and told me to do it through

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authority, what I clearly understood as authority is you remove the legal right for that tormenting
spirit to be there. And the way you remove the legal right is you repent of the sin.
And this created kind of a conundrum over the years as I started to teach on this,

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is people say, well, I'm already a Christian. I've already repented of my sins. Well, yes and no.
See, what happens is the general word is repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
So when we become believers, we say, Lord, I repent of my sins. Please forgive me. I believe in your

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son. And now I'm born again. Y'all recognize that process, right? So let me ask you a question,
because this gets into the conundrum that a lot of believers have. The question is this,
are all of your sins forgiven past, present and future, or just the ones that you ask to be forgiven

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at the time that you became a Christian? All of them. Right. All of them. So why then do we pray
in the Lord's prayer and Lord, forgive us our debts as we forgive those who have sinned against us?
If all of our sins are forgiven, why do we keep asking God to forgive us our debts? And why is

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there a statement that God will forgive our debts only as we forgive someone else? Does that mean
that our forgiveness is actually based on works? If we do this, then God will forgive us when we've
been taught that God's forgiveness is unconditional. What's the correlation there? How do you reconcile

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if we've been forgiven? Why do we keep asked to be forgiven, but only as we forgive others?
That's a good question. Interesting question. Right. Yeah. Thank you. I mean, I think a lot of
it has to tie back to what you said before. When you ask for forgiveness, you are, you need to
forgive others, right? And so that would allude that you constantly need to have forgiveness

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in your heart for other people. Otherwise, you're opening a door to the enemy to harm and harass
you. God's forgiveness of our sin that allows us to have eternal life. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Can we lose our salvation? If he's already forgiven our sins, will he withdraw his forgiveness?

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I don't believe so. Yeah. So why do we keep asking that he forgive? And why is it tied that you
forgive us as we forgive others? Does that mean that if I, if I have unforgiveness towards someone,
I've lost my salvation because now he no longer forgives me? No. I think it's like it reminds me
it keeps you with that freedom. It gives you a freedom because another part of that prayer

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is your will be done here on earth as in heaven. So you're calling in that third realm, that spiritual
realm into so we can see that in this heavenly realm on earth. So if we're constantly needing to
bring those, we just need to it's like a reminder and keeps you like like washing your face. You
don't just do it once and that's it. Right. So this is the conundrum that we start to fall into.

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And this is what I was talking about a little bit earlier. A lot of times when we read scripture,
we become emphatic and dogmatic that this has to be what it says. Because like in the John
books, first John, I think it is where he says, if you ask God for anything according to his will,

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then he promises to hear you and promises to do it. So if I ask God to heal me and I'm not healed,
then the simple conclusion is it must not be God's will. And we become so dogmatic on that
understanding, at least in my legalistic church we were, that all I had to do is pray for God's
will. And if it wasn't done, then it's obviously not God's will. But when you start to understand

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more how God works, there's so many mysteries that you can never be dogmatic about anything.
Just like the Jews were dogmatic that the gospel was only for the Jews. Why? Because it was Abraham
who was chosen. It was Israel who was chosen. All the promises, all the faith, all the prophecies,

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all the covenants were only to the Jews. This is Romans 9, what Paul is talking about.
So when Peter went and shared the gospel at Cornelius' house, a Gentile, he gets back to
Jerusalem and all of the legalistic Jewish Christians said, how dare you? And they rebuked him
for taking the gospel to the Gentiles because they said, it's only for the Jews. And then

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Peter said wisely, hey, I understand, I thought the same. But then I saw God do something different.
And so I guess it must be for the Gentiles as well, because I'm not going to let my doctrine dictate
what God can do. And so when you allow mystery and remove the dogmatism, then all kinds of

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truths start opening up that you never understood. And this concept, this understanding of why did
must we forgive to be forgiven if we've already been forgiven? Here's what I've come to understand.
The ultimate goal, Romans 8, 828, 829, somewhere in there says that we have been predestined to be

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conformed to the image of his son. Jesus came to restore all that was lost. Jesus is the image of
God, and he's trying to restore us back to that image. Adam was made in the image of God, and then
he lost the image of God when he said. And so now we're trying to be conformed back into the image

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of God to restore all that was lost. And what sin does is it does two things. This is my understanding.
Number one, it breaks our relationship with God. And it breaks our image of God.
So when we believe in Jesus and repent of our sins generally, it restores and reconciles our

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relationship back to God. So now we have a relationship with God the Father. We become born
again. This is Hebrews 2. And we are now brothers with Jesus, and we have a common Father. This is
why John 20, I think it is, that the resurrection Jesus says to Mary for the first time. He's been

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calling his disciples, his servants. And then I think in John 14 or 15, he calls them his friends.
But then in John 20, he changes the word one more time. And he says, go and tell my brothers
that I'm going to my Father and their Father, my God and their God. So something happens.

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And what happens is we have been in the spiritual side of things, supernaturally born again,
even though in our physical body, we're still the old man body. So we've been restored and
reconciled in relationship back to God the Father. But there's still the aspect of we're still not

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in the image of God. We're in relationship with God. But the image of God is to be without sin.
And the only way to be conformed back into the image of his son, the main difference between man
and Jesus, is Jesus was without sin in human terms, in earthly terms. So to be conformed

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back into his image, we have to repent of our sin. Repentance nullifies the sin. I'll give you an
example. Two years back, my middle son, probably 19, 20 years old, was taken up into heaven
into the heavenly court. The Lord said, I want to show you something. And so he takes my son

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into the courtroom in heaven. And my son's name is Bady, Jr. So Bady was saying that on his right,
up on the dios, was God the Father as the judge. To his left was a demon spirit. And that demon
spirit was accusing Bady of sin. All kinds of sins. So I paused my son and said, was he real?

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Was he truthful? Because I always thought demons always lie, right? That's what Satan is a liar.
He always lies. That's his nature. The demons always lie. And so I was wondering, are these really
sins or was he just lying to God? But my son said, no, they were every single one. Was 100%

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accurate. And then my son said, the Lord's told me to plead the blood of Jesus. So Jesus, so my son
in the courtroom said, I plead the blood of Jesus. He said instantly that demon spirit disappeared.
Because the blood of Jesus removes the sin. So watch this. Satan is called the accuser of the

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brethren. What that means is that he accuses us. If I were to accuse you of something,
you would, there needs to be something that I accuse you of about. So if we think in terms of a
legal setting, the accuser is the prosecutor. He accuses you of breaking the law. Does that make

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sense? So Satan, as the accuser of the brethren, he's the chief prosecutor. He's the attorney general
of God's kingdom. His role is to prosecute lawbreakers. The demons are assistant, you know,
they're district attorneys and they're other prosecuting attorneys. That's what this, this

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court of heaven saying that my son saw was that the demons accuse us of sin. But if we repent of
the sin, which is the form is, is how you plead the blood of Jesus, repentance is tied into the
blood of Jesus. So when we repent of that sin, then the blood of Jesus washes it. And it says

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in Colossians 3 that he disarmed the rulers and authorities, rulers, authorities, principalities,
and there's poor levels. But the rulers and authorities are that demonic realm that impacts
us individually. So the way that you disarm it is that you apply the blood of Jesus over the sins.

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Simply by saying at one point in our lives, I repent of my sins, resource relationship,
but we still have all of the sin indictments that we're being accused of. Now, this is my
understanding of how it works because when I applied this through prayer, it is like almost

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a hundred percent successful in getting rid of all kinds of things. I've seen diabetes healed.
I've seen sleep apnea healed. I've seen broken bones basically fully restored. I've seen blindness
go deafness go. I've seen all kinds of things. Everything that you would read about in Acts,

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other than raising the dead. But I've seen everything else. And I've seen it happen
simply by people repenting of sins. I saw it first by getting people to repent of sin and
casting the demons out. But now taking this approach that though we've been saved and our
sins are forgiven for relationship, we still have an obligation to repent of our sins individually.

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This is why the primary message Jesus came was to repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
So when we start to repent of our sins individually, what's happening is we're showing up in court
and we're defending ourselves. Most of us never show up in court. So when the demons
are accused us of unrepentance towards so and so or accused us of sleeping with so and so 20 years

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ago and we've never repented of that, we're continuing to be held in judgment with it in an
earthly standpoint and the demonic spirits have a right to torment us. But when we start to make a
list of those sins that the Lord brings to our mind and says repent of these, I've seen miraculous

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healing almost literally every single time. I teach in an addiction recovery center for women.
It houses over 500 women. And when you're dealing with addicts, you're dealing with
the probably the most traumatized and tormented people out there because usually they've had all

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of the sins. They've had abuse. They've had molestation. They've had lots and lots of sexual
sin. They're doing drugs. They've been in fights. They're just it's a cesspool of sin. And when I
take these ladies through the prayer of freedom and they go through this, they see 87% see literally

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everything in their life disappear. I've seen that's what they need because they're at the usually
when they get to a group for help, they're at the end of their rope looking for a way out.
Yeah. But it applies to us and that's where I'm going. It applies to us as well. Even those of us
who are righteous and live righteous lives. Just the other day, I torn the I pulled a ligament to

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my right thumb, just gripping a little glass would shoot and create shooting pains and it takes six
weeks to heal. And I was disappointed because I couldn't exercise and then the Lord prompted me to
follow my own medicine on this. So it's okay, Lord. And I want to show you the process anyone can do.
I said, Lord, if there's a spiritual root tied to my pain, would you reveal it? He revealed something

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that happened to me at seven years old with my grandmother. I forgave my grandmother and I woke
up the next morning and my hand was completely healed. I could grip anything as strong as I want
without any pain. So even me living a righteous life, something from years back was the source of that.
How can someone recognize if there's a spiritual stronghold blocking their healing?

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You know, like how we're, yeah, absolutely. So if you have arthritis, if you have any pain,
anywhere that's chronic, you have a spiritual blockage. If you have mental illness, anxiety,
depression, heaviness, bipolar disorder, if you have anything like sleep apnea or diabetes,

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you have at least 90, 95% chance it's a spiritual problem. If you have relationship conflicts and
you're always bickering with your spouse or with your child, or if there's always something going
on, anytime you see anything that's a pattern that's consistent, then it's almost, and it's a

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negative pattern. It's almost always a spiritual rig. That's what I'm finding. If you look through
the Bible, every single time it describes the source of someone's sickness, 100% of the time,
it's sin. And if you read through the Bible, you'll see that at least 40 or 50 times where sin is

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the source of the same. James 516, this is the passage in James where he says, if anyone is sick,
let them call for the elders. But here's how it ends it. James 516, confess your sins and you will
be healed. So literally, the reason I'm seeing so many healings from this process is we're just

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following God's word of confession and God's following his promise of healing. So literally
everything. What would you say about the passage where they ask Jesus to confront them and say,
who sinned? This man or his parents? And Jesus said, neither, just that the father's love be made
manifest. What would you say about that? He's basically saying that no sin is not involved in

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this specific one. Right. So that shows you also that Jews clear understanding that sin is usually
the source of a problem. Like the layman at the pool when Jesus heals him and finds him in the
temple, he says, go and sin no more, that nothing worse may happen to you. But for, so as I was

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teaching on this once before, I said, I was sharing that there's a difference between sickness and
when you're born disabled, that may not be tied to sin. But if you were born normal and then
something happened, it could frequently be tied. So not every issue is a sin issue. But the majority

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of issues that crop up in our lives, then the key motive is being cropping up, not that we were
born that way. The majority of those that I've seen are tied to sin. Would there be a way for you
to be born in a sin if your parents were sinners, a generational curse? Absolutely. You have two
types. You have generational iniquity. The sins of the father will be visited to the third and

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fourth generation. And then you have a sense of abomination. This is witchcraft and other things.
You see this in scripture as well. Biggest one is Adam. When he sinned, we inherit his sin.
He's our father. You see in the passage with Elisha and the Assyrian general who had leprosy

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and he was cleansed of his leprosy. He wanted to give Elisha money and gifts and Elisha said,
no, so get has he. Elisha's servant went out and lied and took money and gifts for himself.
And Elisha said, because you did that, you will receive Naaman's leprosy and all of your generations
forever. So that means that even his children were born into leprosy because of the sins of his

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father for generations forever. So you do see those patterns for sure. So what would you say to
someone who's prayed for healing but hasn't seen any results yet? Really great question.
This is the key. My book, the prayer of freedom and the easiest place to go is just that word book,

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the prayerfreedombook.com shows you how to do it because here's the issue. Most people pray for
freedom, but they don't understand how to get it. So there is a legal process. This is why I'm
sharing with what happened with my son up in the heavenly courtroom. He's in the courtroom and a
demon is accusing him of sin. And it wasn't until my son fled the blood of Jesus for those sins

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that the demon left. So what happens a lot of times is we're saying, Lord, heal me, heal me,
heal me. And what God wants you to do is repent, repent, repent. So until we follow God's pattern,
we don't get the healing. And once you follow the God's pattern, the healing is instantaneous.

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So what my book does is it helps you understand and it goes, walks you through scripted where this
comes from. But the second half of the book is actually a workbook where you can, with God's help,
make a list of the sins that he wants you to repent of in your life. A lot of things may be

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obvious, like, you know, sleeping around before you get married. But there are other sins that occur
that are less obvious. And there are 18 different categories of sin that I put in the book to help
you identify all these different sources. And once you do that, and then you pray strategically to

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repent of those things, then the sicknesses that you're trying to see disappear, 90% or more of
the time they disappear. Wow. Let's do a little recap of the steps that one would take to,
for your freedom prayer. So the first one is ask the Lord to reveal your sins, right? Well,

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and then to repent of whatever comes to mind. And then three break unholy soul ties with anyone
involved. And then four command unholy spirits to lead. That's a very simplified version for
a lot of simple things, right? So you've got, you know, you got a headache, got migraines,

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you've got this pain in the back that usually handles those things. When you get to deeper level
stuff, addictions, constant chronic issues in your life, you usually have to go a little bit
deeper. And that's where the book comes in. Awesome. Awesome. So for anyone listening who's
seeking healing, what encouragement would you give them today, baby? Number one, there is a solution.

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Number two, if you're seeking healing and you haven't gotten it, it's not because God doesn't
want you to have it. It's simply because you haven't followed the process he's put in place for you
to get it. The confess your sins and you shall be healed. The key on confession is to understand
how to do it right and thoroughly. And the best way to do that, not trying to promote the book,

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but I've been doing this for so long, is to get my book, The Prayer of Freedom at theprayerfreedombook.com.
And then follow that. And I keep using my website, theprayerfreedombook.com, because if you just
type in the prayer of freedom, there's so many things on prayer and freedom and books and stuff
that you'll never find it. But I put a website together that takes you straight to the Amazon

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page that you need to. That would be my big encouragement is it works, you know, once you
handle it God's way, it's almost instantaneous once you make that happen. And that would be my
big encouragement. Don't stop, but get the book and do it right. That's a lot. Can I lead your

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yeah, even though I know we're over time on your timeline, but if we have a moment, I would love
just to lead everyone in the especially for your audience, just this simplified version. So if
there are little things in their life right now, they can go and get free of it without. And also,
it's a great way to demonstrate how this general process works. If you're interested in doing

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that, I mean, I would love it if you would pray for me. I have ADHD that I would love to be rid of.
I've got all sorts of inflammation problems. I've got no doubt unrepented sin in my life. I mean,
I'm not I'm a first generation Christian. I didn't discover Jesus in my life until in my 30s.
And so I know that there's things in my closet. I know that there's red in my leg. Oh, you know

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that there's I know there's problems, but I don't know where they all are. I don't know what I know
a lot of them are sexual sin. I know that I know that, you know, I struggled with pornography. I've
struggled with lust. I've struggled with premarital sex, like my whole life. And so yeah, I know there's
I know there's issues that I am repentant of, but I don't know everything. Sure. So I've had
helped a lot of people in your situation. And most of those issues all go I've got one guy who's

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heavy with ADHD and other stuff. And he says going through this process, he's knocking that medicine
down over and over and over again, he's thinking clearer. He's on less medicine. The doctors is
almost ready to say just get off all of it and just test it because you're doing so well. So all
of that's tied to this. The role play I want to do is I want you to since you mentioned inflammation,

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let's just focus on one because it will take a longer time than what we have on this call to
handle the gamut. So do you have any pain anywhere in your body? You mentioned inflammation on the
semen you probably do. Yeah, my hips do my hips and my knees hurt the most my lower back hurts a
lot. Oftentimes my shoulders and neck. Alright, so let's look at your your lower back hips and

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knees because that's one that's hurting right now on a scale of zero to 10 10 pain highest.
What level of pain would you give those? About a five right now.
Okay, great. Alright, and if you were to move around, would it hurt more or moving around would
just keep it at a five. I'm moving around is where I get to the five. I'm just sitting still and not

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trying to move or anything. It's maybe a one, but any movement. Gotcha. Okay, so what I'm going to do
is I want to lead you in the prayer. I'm not going to pray for you. I'm going to have you pray for
yourself. I'm just going to guide you. And for my listening audience, I want you to do the same
thing. Here's what I want you to do. Whatever issue you can feel and measure anxiety, depression,

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glaucoma, pain, whatever it is, I want you to measure on a scale of zero to 10 10 being worse.
Alright, and now we're going to use whatever that is. That's the issue we're going to ask
God to reveal. So this is like a surgical process on this issue. So the step one is now we're going
to ask God to reveal any sin or unforgiveness that you need to handle. So I'm going to role play

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this with you, Josh. And I just want you to, by the way, the key with this is you need to speak it
out loud. So Josh, I want you to mute your mic by the time not now, but I'll tell you when we're
going in another room or whatever so that we're not airing out dirty laundry. And you can be free
to do this. There's only one spot that you're going to. It has to be out loud then. It has to be

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it. Now it can be whispered very softly. But keep in mind what we're doing is is the demon spirits
cannot hear your thoughts is my understanding. Okay, but they can hear very clearly audible. So
we have to speak it out. There's something about the spoken word anyway. We have to speak it out.
And that lets them know that you've repented of what's giving them the legal right. So now they

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can be evicted. It's essentially the process, but it can be whispered out. But so there's three
steps. Number one, we're going to pray to God asking the reveal. Number two, you're going to
repent. Number three, we're going to break soul ties. Number four, we're going to command that
step out. So it's number two, Josh, that you want to go somewhere else or turn off your mic,

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but all the other ones, you can keep it live. So let me guide you. And for my for the listeners on
this, just follow along and repeat after me as well. You ready, Josh? I'm ready.
Josh, I'm ready. Great. Lord Jesus, Lord Jesus, I want to get rid of my
I want to get rid of my pain, my inflammation, the things that cause my mobility to be

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compromised, the things that cause me to wake up and just hurt so much.
All right. Please reveal to me. Please reveal to me any sin I need to repent of any sin I need
to repent of or any person I need to forgive or any person I need to forgive that is tied to this

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issue that is tied to this issue. All right. So that's step one. Step two, you're about to repent.
This is where you'll go silent on the audio. But let me give you instructions. If not, I'm sorry.
It's not please forgive me. It's the specific words. Here's they are. I repent of blank.

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And if that blank had to do with any other person, then you include the person's name. I repent of
stealing money from John, or maybe you and John went and stole money from someone else.
I repent of stealing money with John. Okay. And then if it's unforgiveness, it's I forgive

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Susie for the words she said. Okay. So it's I repent of blank with blank. And then forgiveness is
I forgive blank for blank. Don't have to be long and drawn out. It's literally a statement.
It's nothing more. So you don't have to say I'm so sorry. I know I shouldn't leave all that out

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because that takes too long. I repent of blank for blank. I forgive blank for blank. Okay. So
go on mute and whisper it out. Go to another room and come back and say hello when you're finished.
And for the listening audience, you all do the same and y'all can probably just pause the audio
and play back while you do it in case you have a lot going on. I'll pause it here.

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Perfect. Okay. Now we're going to move into step three. And step three goes like this.
And I break all unholy soul ties with and I break all unholy soul ties with
and release all judgments against and release all judgments against

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and break all unholy blood contracts with and break all unholy blood contracts with
those people I have named those people I have named
and now Lord Jesus and now Lord Jesus we're now moving to the fourth step.
I ask that you remove all of my blank. I ask that you remove all of my inflammation,

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all of the pain related to my joints hurting, especially when I wake up in the morning.
And now in Jesus name and now in Jesus name,
I speak to my blank. I speak to my inflammation
and my back pain and my knee pain and my hip pain and my back pain and my knee pain and my hip pain.

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And I command you to leave me now and I command you to leave me now
for you since it was a five go from a five to a zero now go from a five to a zero now
in Jesus name be gone in Jesus name be gone.

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All right. So now what we're doing is we're asking God to remove it but now we're taking
authority in Jesus name and we're speaking to it as a person, right? Because it is a spirit
that's causing it. So when you command the back pain to leave, what we're really commanding is

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the spirit of that back pain to leave. Now, so that's the first time. So now check it out. It was a
five. Is it still a five or has it changed? He's testing it out. I'd say the only thing
that's bothering is the knees at the moment. So everything else has disappeared to a zero?

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Yes. Or has it just gone down to a lower number? I can't tell us there at all.
All right. So, so watch this. The only thing you did is you repented. Most people are saying,
please remove this. Please remove this. God is saying, confess your sin and you'll be healed. So

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now the only thing you can feel you said is your knees or was it your ankle? I forget my knees,
your knees and they went from a five to what? What's the pain level now? I'd say maybe a two, three.
Okay. Perfect. So now all you need to do is repeat number four again. Let me guide you.
At this point, once you see movement, then you're going to take it all the way to zero in almost

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every case. All you have to do is repeat number four a few more times. So it goes like this.
Lord Jesus. Lord Jesus. Always thank you for what's happened. Thank you for removing
most of my pain. Thank you for removing most of my pain.
I ask that you get all the pain out of my knees now. I ask that you get all the pain out of my

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knees now. And now I speak to the pain in my knees. And now I speak to the pain in my knees.
In Jesus name, I command you out. In Jesus name, I command you out.
Go from that one or two or three, whatever it was to a zero. Go from that two to a zero.

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Go now in Jesus name. Go now in Jesus name.
Now check it out.
No, it's a little bit of pain in the left knee for sure.
It's just a little bit in the left. It feels about the same.
Okay, still added two. Okay. So do that one more time. Pray that one more time. I'll let you do it

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on your own. Thank you, Jesus, for healing my pain and taking away the pain in my hips and my back.
Thank you for mitigating the pain in my knees. In Jesus name, I command this pain leave. I command
this pain to go from a two to a zero immediately. I command this pain to flee by the blood of Jesus.

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Amen.
Now check it out. He's doing the squats.
All right, that's it. Be about a one right now.
Yeah, okay. So what you would normally do, and I'll speed it up for you in just a moment. Let me

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ask you a few questions. How long has it been since you've been completely without pain in those
areas? I mean, is it normal that you're out of pain or you've had it all the time? I've had it for at
least a decade. Okay. Would you think that so all the pain disappearing except for that little bit
in the knee? Is that a miracle for you? Oh, absolutely. And how long have you been praying for healing?

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I kind of quit. I kind of thought, you know, as you said before, it clearly wasn't in the cards for me,
that God needed me to suffer with it. So I kind of quit trying to pray for things.
Right. So you are actually correct with it with your assessment. God
not so much needed you to suffer with it. He allowed you to suffer with it because

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so what I'm learning with all of this is these torments that we have, they manifest either in
pain or mental illness and anguish or some sort of ailment like paralysis or, you know, like
a something in part some part of your body not working. God allows us because this is his form
of discipline. He says that he will discipline every child is his. And what discipline is for

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is to bring about correction. God's goal is Romans eight that we be conformed to the image of the
son to be conformed to his image is to be without sin. When we repent of the sin, the sin disappears.
That's why the demon spirit could not accuse my son anymore when he played the blood of Jesus,

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because the sin disappeared. He was blameless in those areas. So what God is doing, and this is
why God doesn't just heal a lot of times because his higher purpose is not that you'd be out of pain,
but that you'd be without the sin. That is the source of that pain because he wants you to conform

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to his son's image. So now you have a pattern and this works for literally almost everything.
Let me pray for you. First off, check your knee real quick. Sometimes it some things are just
take a little bit longer to leave just a few minutes. Is it still a one or is it changed
anyway? Yeah, my one my left knee is definitely still a one, but only when I fully squat down.

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Perfect. So now put your right put your right hand on that knee.
And let me pray real quick. I'm ready. All right. Knee in Jesus name I command you to be healed.
Every spirit there I command you and the authority of Jesus get out now. Any legal right you claim,

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according to John 20 23 I break that legal right. I declare that sin forgiven and gone.
And now you must leave get out and do not return. Go. All right now check it out and see if it's
still there. While he's checking on that, I'm going to tell you I went to this miracle service once
with the Lisa and Justin buckles and they had a line of people coming up for prayer and every

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time someone would get prayed over and healed. There was so much Holy Spirit that I would get
filled up and I wouldn't be in tears and then the neck then they'd walk away and the tears
would subside and then the next person would come up and get healed and then I'd fill up with tears
again. And just in the last minute I filled up my eyes filled up with tears when you were saying

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that Matthew first and I can feel the Holy Spirit spreads. Oops. So it's really cool. I hope our
listeners can feel that too. That's the Holy Spirit confirming. Go ahead. I'm having definitely
less than one pain. It feels more fatigued than anything. All right. So let's let's work on

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that fatigue real quick on a scale of zero to 10 push the fatigue. I would say it's a hefty six or
seven. All right. So now let's see if it's a spiritual issue. Right. So this is what I do.
It's just testing. I don't know if it's spiritual or if it's something truly just physical but I

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have the authority in Christ to handle it if it's spiritual. So let's put your hand on the knee
and let's just pray on it real quick. Fatigues in that knee that six or seven in Jesus name I did
I declare and command all fatigue. This to leave go whatever it actually is I call you by the spirit

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of fatigue spirit of fatigue in Jesus name be gone right now leave take all your roots with you
all the fatigue feeling go from a six or seven to zero now. All right. Check it out and see what
happened. More tears. I have tissues. I told you this was going to be longer than a 30 minute call.

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Yeah. Sure. You can break it into two. I feel pretty good. No more fatigue. It's very slight
and I don't know if it's natural fatigue or if it's because I don't usually just squat up and down
up and down up and down up and down. Yeah. This is one of exercising. So let me dissect a little bit

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of just what happened. So here's the process. You were in pain. You repented because you asked
God specifically for that issue to reveal your sins for that. He did. There was only a few sins
because it only took a few moments. You came back. We broke any unholy soul types with anyone that
they were tied to. And then we commanded it out. You commanded out not me. You got everything out

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except that one last vistage of pain in the knee which was a one. I jumped in and I got it out.
The reason I got it out more than you is authority comes from being under authority.
I have fewer unrepented sins than you which means I walk in greater authority than you.

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So even your authority that you have you got it almost all the way out. With my book it would have
gone out all the way because it doesn't. It's the way the process is done in my prayer of freedom
book is it doesn't matter your level of authority. It just takes you more time. But when I said I was
going to speed this up for you and I got involved that's when it instantly left. That's the difference

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with authority. Once you start to get rid of the sin in your life you actually will walk in greater
authority spiritually. And with greater authority a lot more things happen in really cool ways.
Same thing with the fatigue. Once you mentioned you had fatigue that told me well that doesn't sound
normal but let's see if it was spiritual. The fact that it responded to me commanding it out

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means that it was a spirit of fatigue. So this is what I was saying. You were asking how does
someone know? Shelly was asking how does someone know if they've got some of these things? Well
if you have anything that's not the abundant life that Jesus promised you probably got some
of these things going on in your life. And they masquerade as things that we think are normal.

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But nothing's normal because God designed us to have abundance. He wants us to have abundance.
So anything that takes away abundance usually is going to have some root of an unrepentant sin.
Ask God what that is and whatever comes to mind repent of it. Go through this process. But if
you go through the book process you'll see so much clearer up in your life. It's unbelievable.

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I'm clearly going to need to get this book because of all the ailments that I have in my life from
an umbilical hernia to what all the other things ADHD is the one I want gone the most. It's the one
that causes me literally tears to God because of the poor impulse control that you have with it.
The things that I like. I'll just step into sin sometimes before I have to pull back and repent.

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And I don't like that. I don't like that. Any part of it. I don't like the rejection sensitivity
you get from it where I feel that I'm even rejected by God himself because of it. I don't
like the object permanence where people cease to exist when I don't see them. I like nothing of it
and I want it gone so bad that I would be willing. I am literally willing to suffer with all sorts of

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manner of things so long as it's gone. Well the cool thing is for it to get gone you won't have
to suffer. You'll actually get free of all kinds of things. That does sound pretty cool.
Yeah so um you can do the full prayer of freedom in one day. The typical process is 30 days.
Just a matter of how fast you want it all gone. And it is amazing what happened. You'll enjoy it

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and so will the rest of the audience listening to this. It's great for loved ones. What you'll also
find out, especially if you have children. This is cool. Or parents that you have issues with
or that are having issues. You can actually go through this process to a degree on their behalf
and see them get healed of things and restored in abundance without them even being a part of it.

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These spiritual laws that God has shown in his Bible, everything comes straight from Scripture,
is really powerful and you'll get a lot out of it. Wow thank you so much baby for taking us
through that journey. You mentioned the book the prayer offreedombook.com as one of the resources
and then one thing that you didn't mention is there's an app called Get Rad Faith. So there's a

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Get Radical Faith app and then there's resources in there as well. Yes so I'm a Bible teacher
by passion. Not simple Bible teaching but really deep. Under uncovering a lot of things that
you know how do you walk in faith like Jesus walked and understanding what these things are.
So all of my teaching is on my app. You can download it on any app store, Google Play.

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Just type in Get Radical Faith. It's a blue icon with a purple cross.
And if you get my book, I give you the app. There's a link to the QR code to get the app as well
because once you go through the process of the prayer of freedom, there's a lot of stuff that

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you might need to know to fully get free because with 18 different categories of different types
of sins, while I describe in brief in the book, every single one has a training video that ties
to my app. And then once you get free a lot of times, like I remember my friend who has a DHT
that's getting rid of things now, it's taking him a little bit longer because he's had a lot more

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issues in his life. I mean a lot of stuff. So it's a little bit more complex than just something
like getting rid of pain. And sometimes figuring out those the remaining hidden keys or how to
completely get through all kinds of things that seems to keep cropping up. There's additional
training that I've done that reference that ties into my app. So my book will show you where in the

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app to do it. So basically my app, I'm integrating with a book. So you'll get it with a book if you
just want to get the app directly. I highly encourage it. There's some great teaching. How do
you find God's calling in your life? How do you not worry about finances ever again? Because you're
pursuing what God said and he promises to give you all that you need. How do you walk by faith and

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all kinds of things that you'll find out in the app get radical faith. And there's basic intermediate
and advanced levels too. So it'll guide you through everything you could possibly think of,
which is really cool. I love it. Great. You've been through my app. I'm impressed. She sure has.
I love information. The thing is I've been calling on the wisdom of God to apply it,

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the right amount of things and the right amount of spaces in my life so I can create
movement in the right spots. Yes, but there are other issues people would be going through that I
could not get a spirit to identify itself. And the Lord started to impress on my heart that not
every spirit is a demon spirit. Some spirits, believe it or not, are actually holy spirits and

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serve unholy spirits. Their purpose is simply to bring discipline for repentance. So deliverance
will get rid of many things, but not all things. Right. But I've been uncovering with this process
is this will get rid of all things or at least a lot more things than just deliverance.

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Yeah, I mean, it's in the book of Job that the devil wasn't allowed to do anything. God did not
allow him to do so. God does allow spirits to harm her ass. And does it mean that necessarily
there are always evil spirits? I can totally agree with the logic on corrective spirits.
Right. If he loves us, he's going to correct us.

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Yep. Just wants us to be better. Yes. So I love the thing that the Lord is sending you guys on
for this year. And that's really cool. So y'all have a lot of fun with your the guy on the deliverance.
And as you go through this, a lot of this stuff, what he shares is going to make even more sense.
Hmm. Yes. Well, I hope this lists somebody today because there was a lot to unpack.

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I know it was at least one person for sure.
Oh, man. Thank you so much for being with us, baby. I appreciate your your knowledge and guiding
us through that process. And I can't wait to see all the freedoms that people find themselves
walking in because of this. Hey, I would encourage everyone that gets freedom,

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reach back out to Josh and Shelley, whatever the channels are, if there are with your podcast,
and let them know that'd be cool. Yes, definitely. Share it in the comments. It'll help people be
encouraged. Hmm. Would love to make a list of testimonies too. Just a list of how God has
showed up big in their lives, especially from doing things like repenting of the things that

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are making God separate from us. Yeah. And that little process is so simple.
Mm hmm. So if this episode is bless you, we ask that you pass it along,
and then maybe someone else can get freedom from praying this prayer of freedom.
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