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Ladies and gentlemen, may I haveyour attention please?
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Here, don't Call My Name. I'm not the one I was before.
If you want me now, it's much too late.
This was the last time. Nights I stayed awake, lost in

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your empty promises. I was the one you leaned upon,
but never the one you choose. And now I see it crystal clear.
You never knew how to love me. And don't come back here.

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Don't call my neighbor. I'm not going.
I was before if you want. Me now it's the last time.

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So easy to lie, so easy to hide when you've got nothing left to
lose. But I'm so done being your
shadow, picking you up when you fall.
And now I see a crystal clear you never knew how to love me.

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Don't come back here, don't CallMy Name.
I'm. Not the one I was before.

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Don't search for me in the dark.
I won't be. Yourself anymore, I lose myself

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in you. I tried so hard to pull you
through, but in the end I finally see you were never there
for me. Don't come back here, don't Call

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My Name. I'm not the one I was before.
This was the last time. Tongues of venom weaving lies

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spinning W beneath blood red skies to seek the crown.
The hearts of stone betrayers kneel on a self for throne.
No mercy waits, no truth to save.
Their twisted words dig their own grave.
Flames rise high, the judgement calls the liars and fire

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crumbles and falls burn in the fires of hell.
They scream Annihilation tears their dream.
No escape from the molten fire. They're so Sebastian to save us

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in their final land. Falsehoods caught in a world of
pain. Their silver tongues now bound
in chains. The ambitions it claims, their
fates. No lies can flee.
It's burning hate, soothing marks now with their soul.

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Flames rise high, the judgement calls the liars and fire
crumbles and fires and fire crumbles and fires In the fires
of hell they scream annihilationtears their dreams.
No escape from the mulch in fire.
Fire, fire, fire. Screams echo through the endless

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night. No saviour comes to grant them
light. Their words went sharp, now turn
to dust. Betrayalize their bones,
compass. From the light,

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annihilate, eradicate. No trees remains of their
deceitful fate. No mistakes from the bolts and
fire fire. There's such a nasty sense to

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see that. My God.

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Hello there everyone. Welcome back to GOD TV Radio.
I'm of course TTOR. And to my other side, there is
none other than the one, the only Brett Keene.
Say hello, Brett. Hey people, what's up?
I hope you're all having a blessed day out there.
As do I because it is the middleof summer and the temperatures,

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at least in my state, are finally summer appropriate.
Mid 80s to low 90s just about every day.
So lots of opportunities to stayindoors and work on video
projects. I am especially happy about that
part. But.
My area too, Mr. TTOR. I only have third degree burns,
but I'm still alive. Yeah.

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He's alive, guys. Of course I know your enemies
are like Boo, he's alive. That's OK though.
Anyhow, so last stream, Brett and I were going through a bunch
of questions that he had writtento Christians, questions that

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were mostly personal in nature. And yes, I do.
See you there, Adam. Hello.
Hi, all. Any who the questions in
particular we got through I think all but like 10 or 12 of
them. So we're going to finish that
list today and then we're going to go through or start to go

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through a whole new list of questions that Brett recently
put out and we're just going to see where the chips fall.
Some of these questions, I'll have quite a bit to say, some of
them I don't know what I'll haveto say, if anything at all.
Yeah, just like last time, if Brett wants to answer the
questions too, he is more than welcome to.

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And with that, I'm going to go ahead and screen share the rest
of that other that first post just got to do all that magic
stuff. And the question that we left
off with is the one I have highlighted here on screen, how
do you approach conversations with people who hold different

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beliefs or world views? Now, that's a very good question
because the way you approach those conversations is very, it
could be very different depending upon who you're
asking. Because if you're talking to an
atheist who claims to believe inlogic and reason and
rationality, you really need to get them to talk about what they

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mean by that. Because most of the time they
will tell on themselves. They often times are actually
diametrically opposed to what they claim to believe in.
Like they claim to be for logic and reason, but then they'll
hold positions that are against logic and reason.
Kind of like the people for Nature magazine back in 1999 who

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said that even if all the evidence and reality pointed
towards intelligent design beingtrue, such a hypothesis would be
excluded from science because it's not a naturalistic
explanation of origins. That is something where logic,
reason, rationality, evidence are being thrown out the window
entirely in order to uphold a faith position, a belief.

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So if you're dealing with someone like that, you're going
to talk to them very differentlythan say, like a Muslim, for
example. Like if you're going to talk
about talk to a Muslim, then you're going to have to know a
little bit of something about Islam, which includes knowing
about stuff that's written in the Quran, stuff that's written
in the most authentic hadifs. Because the hadifs are just as

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authoritative as the Quran is, especially the stronger what's
considered their most accurate hadifs.
Because if you quote like a weakhadif with someone like that,
they'll just dismiss you. But if you're quoting A hadif
that's considered authentic, then you have a much better
ground to stand on when you're conversing with them.

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It's also different than, say, if you're talking to a Mormon,
for example. So if you're talking to a
Mormon, you kind of got to know a little bit of something about
Joseph Smith and everything thathe was into and taught and did
and all that in order to converse with them.
So really when it comes to people, you kind of have to see

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what worldview they hold. And then when they tell you what
worldview they hold, you need toask them questions that get them
talking about what specifically they believe in terms of that
world view. Because as you know, Brett, not
every atheist believes the same thing on all topics.
Not every Muslim believes the same thing in terms of Islam,

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even though those who are against jihad stand in real
opposition to their own religion's teachings.
But that's a whole other can of worms.
The point is, you know, and I know that not every person under
a worldview umbrella is like a cookie cutter copy and paste of
the other. There are different people
within those camps. And so you got to see where

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they're at by asking them some questions and getting them to
talk before you can know exactlyhow do you attempt to convert
them? How do you attempt to
proselytize? In other words, What about you,
Brett? Well with 90% of atheists in my
personal experience and I agree with you, not everybody's the

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same. But when it does come to atheist
90% of them seem program scripted and their arguments
always fall to nihilism and emotionalism.
It's always why is God mean? Why did God do it this way?
If God loves us why don't he do that kind of thing?
As far as Muslims go, I was surprised because I've always

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been told all my life that Muslims study their from the get
go, but I ran into a lot of themthat seem illiterate, uneducated
and never even bothered to look at the book that they're willing
to die for. It's weird.
Yeah, well, the Prophet Muhammad, in their defense, was
an illiterate 7th century caravan robber, so their

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illiteracy actually lines up with Muhammad's illiteracy,
ironically enough. But I get what you're saying.
Next question is what's 1 area of your faith you're still
working to grow or understand better?
Well, I'd say when it comes to understanding end times, that's

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always a work in progress when it comes to the Bible, at least
for me, because I have some things you can understand just
by doing a straightforward contextual reading of the script
of the Scriptures when it comes to that topic.
But then even when you know whatthe straightforward contextual
reading is of something, sometimes that reading is still

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really hard to understand. And so that's something that
always is a work in progress in terms of trying to understand
that better. I know for a lot of people that
have families, they struggle to basically have a cohesive and

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close, you know, healthy family.And you know, there's there's
people like me who aren't in that boat.
So that's not a particular struggle that we have yet.
But I would say for me, in termsof my faith, it's understanding
end times because while some things are clear, and while we

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can look out in the world today and we can see what technology
exists that can make all of the end times prophecies happen in
terms of the beast system being global and how they, you know,
get people to only be able to buy and sell if they have this
mark in their hand or on their forehead.

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That kind of stuff is becoming more and more plausible as time
goes on. So even with that stuff going
on, though, there are some things that they're still not
very well understood in the scriptures about end times.
And so that's always something I'm working to understand
better. What about you, Brett?

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What area of your faith are you still working to grow or
understand better? Well the end times definitely a
a challenge but the most challenging for me is doing unto
others. I went down to myself and and
loving my enemy. I I didn't grow up like that.
It's not. It doesn't feel natural to let

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someone treat you like a punching bag and just stand
there and take it. I still have that desire to
stomp on someone like a bug if they anger me.
Yeah, I get that feeling entirely.
There's some people on the Internet who've made videos
criticizing me and some of the criticisms are so out there

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that's just like, what the heck.And I know there's some people
on the Internet who would consider me an enemy of theirs.
But yeah, that definitely being a turn the other cheek and not
having not basically not having that returning attitude towards
someone where like if they hate you intensely, you hate them

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intensely back and you basicallyjust feel each other's rage.
That kind of thing is it's definitely something that can be
hard to get out of when you're in.
It takes some takes time and some growth to really get out of
that or past that phase. The next question is how does
your faith influence your relationships with family and

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friends? Well, most of my family and a
lot of my friends are Christians.
So my faith and their faith, well, we just get along together
because we have so much common ground and a fundamental
worldview level. And because we have that common

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ground, a lot of our values are the same still here and there in
my friends circle. And then a couple areas of my
family, there's some non believers there, but they all
grew up in the same Christian home environment that the rest
of my family did. And so they've been influenced
by our world view and our valuestheir whole life.

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So even though one of them is anatheist and another one of them
is a couple of them I'm not sureabout.
They might be agnostic, they might be atheist, they might be
Christians. I don't really know what they
are, but they don't behave like Christians entirely.
They, they basically act the same as we do, at least when

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we're at our family gatherings. So I'd say that it's the faith
that I hold to has not been a negative influence on my
relationships with family and friends because we all basically
have the same faith for the mostpart.
And even the ones that don't share in our faith, they're

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they're welcomed, they're loved and they're not treated any
different ways in my family. So that's about it.
Where you want me to respond? You can, although I would say
that since I work at a church too, everyone I work with is

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also a Christian so our faiths kind of influence each other as
we work. I forgot to add that part, but
how is your faith Brett influenced your relationships
with family and friends? It hasn't because the majority
of my family is either passed away, live too far away, and the
ones outside of my wife and my kids don't really give a flying

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rat's ass about what I think of what my view is, no matter what
I believe. That is unfortunate, but I
understand that too. The next question is in what
ways does your Christian worldview shape your career or
work ethic? Now I work at a church as a full
time TV producer. So basically my faith in my job

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go hand in hand because I'm filming and live streaming
Sunday sermons. I'm turning those Sunday sermons
into hour long TV programs and I'm live streaming a prayer
service every week and creating an announcement videos for those
related services. And I'm usually at various
events that we do filming thingsto make highlight videos like

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our summer camps, like our upcoming car show at the end of
August, stuff like that. So it all goes hand in hand with
me, which is I think very fortunate.
But before I was working at my church, I was a caregiver for 11
years. So in terms of that job that I

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held, I would say that the way my Christian worldview shaped my
work ethic and career in that area was that my Christian
worldview enabled me to have thepatience that you need to be a
caregiver to individuals with developmental disabilities.
Helps with the patients, helps with the level of care that you

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give them in terms of giving them adequate care instead of
just being there, collecting a paycheck and just making sure
that you're catering to their needs as much as reasonable
while still following their plans.
So yeah, that's where I would stand on that particular

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subject. But yeah, so with the
caregiving, a lot of the biblical values influenced how I
took care of my clients. And if my current job, my
worldview and my career are basically on the same line.
So there's nothing to really have to work at to jive, they're
all they're all in line. So let's say you, Brett.

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About whether I'm doing music orwriting books or a website
designs or I can't, I don't wantto get into the more how shall I
say private things and all that because, well, we are live.
But I always try to make sure that God's involved in
everything because I feel like if you want things to succeed,

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you're going to have to do it the right way and it has to be
in a way that serves God. If you don't, it's just going to
fall flat. You are absolutely correct and I
just made a little faux pas right there visually, but that's
OK. We'll get right back into this
battle. A faux pas, a mistake.

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But next question is how do you try to reflect Christian values
in your interactions with strangers and Co workers?
Well, it's kind of the same thing as what I just said.
Having that patience and being considerate of their feelings
and being able to try and help them to do the things they want

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within reason. Like that's when I was a
caregiver who interacted with clients who I was just meeting
for the first time. In terms of Co workers, you try
to do the same thing. Although when I work as a
caregiver where I had to have Costaff with me and that was that
was hell on earth, that ended upbeing a whole cesspool where

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they were lying about me to get me fired even though they were
pathetic staff compared to me. So yeah, that can go really ugly
really fast. So working with Co workers in
that situation can be difficult if you have Christian values and
they're worldly people who don'thave a work ethic.

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But in terms of my regular job that I have now that I've had
for the last two years and some change, yeah, it's pretty easy
to reflect the Christian values because it's the values that
we're living by and it's the values we're promoting through
our content. So there's really nothing to you

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don't have to work to reflect those values in my current line
of work. It's just all there.
The next question is how does your faith guide your decisions
about money giving or material possessions?
Well, in terms of material possessions, when you believe in
the biblical worldview, you're generally not going to be a very

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materialistic person. I mean, you understand that you
need money to pay your bills andyou need certain kinds of
material possessions in order toget by and, you know, have a
decent enough life. But you're certainly not going
to seek to live an extravagant lifestyle where you have like
mansions and just really expensive material possessions

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whose possession of them is justa reflection of your wealth.
That kind of thing is not something that's promoted by the
biblical worldview. And so if you I believe in the
biblical worldview, the faith that I have, then material
possessions will be kind of indifferent to you.
Like you can acknowledge that they're nice, but you also not

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living for them. So they're kind of just there if
you have them. And in terms of how it affects
my decisions about giving, well,you're commanded by the Bible to
be a cheerful giver and to help support your local church body
with your finances because the workers worth their wages.

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And then my line of work, we need donations and ties because
we have a lot of different ministries that do a lot of
different outreaches for our community.
And in order to do all those things free of charge to the
community, we have to have a certain amount of resources to
be able to fund that operation and keep things going.

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So when it comes to giving, I try to give a reasonable amount
of money without, you know, being a detriment to myself.
And that kind of ties into my decisions about money when in
terms of my money, I really try to avoid spending money when I
can, especially if it's like software related stuff.

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It's like if I can get a game for free, I'm going to get it.
If I'm going to get, you know, new software for editing, making
videos, I'm generally going to look for something that's either
free and open source or as cheapas possible if I have to pay
anything for it. Basically being frugal with my
money and not spending it is something that I think has been

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influenced by my faith and also by just, you know, who I am
because there's some people out there that think if you spend a
lot of money, you'll end up getting more.
And that's never worked out thatway that I can see.
So that's how my faith guides mydecisions about money giving and
material possessions. Next question, What's an example

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of a time you felt God working through you to help someone
else? Now that is a good, good
question. Now, I don't remember specific
videos that I've done in the past, but I know there's been
videos in the past where people have like commented on the video
or they e-mail me in private andlet me know that, hey, this

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video you did back at this time was really helpful to me with my
faith and really helped me with the struggles I was having on
this topic. And so I just wanted to thank
you for doing this work that's happened a couple of times.
And I would say that that has been God working through me to
help someone else. And that always feels good

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because at the end of the day, someone like me is not putting
out this content, doing these kind of live streams in order to
benefit ourselves. My philosophy from day one, back
when I started writing blog posts in 2013, back when I
started making YouTube videos in2015 for TTOR.

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My goal since day one has alwaysbeen well, my standard since day
one has always been if my material, my content helps one
person strengthen their faith, then it's all good.
If my content ends up helping someone clear out the
intellectual obstacles in their way and accept a saving

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relationship with Jesus Christ through repentance, then it's
all good. And I can, I don't know if
anyone per SE has been saved from my content.
That's not something that I've been told explicitly by anyone.
But I have been told by people that my content has helped them
in big ways to them. So that always feels good when

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you are a Christian content creator and that's always
something you'd love to hear even if you don't hear it all
that often. Now the next question is how do
you teach or share your faith with younger generations like
children or nieces, nephews? Now, unfortunately, I don't have

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a lot of experience with sharingmy faith with children or young
relatives like nieces and nephews.
I don't have any nieces and nephews yet don't have children
of my own. I'm not really involved too much
with the children's ministry of my church, and I'm barely
involved with the youth ministry, only in the sense that

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I helped make their announcementvideos, but that's about it.
And then I go film some of theirevents.
But I don't really have any kindof great insight into how to
teach the younger generation. But I do know that the younger
generation especially, you know,middle school up, they spend a
lot of time on the Internet. So they spend a lot of time on

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social media. And so I've always felt that my
content, just based on the kindsof topics being covered, is
really targeted to people aged 13 and up, or maybe 12 and up,
because they're on the Internet all the time.
At that age, they're probably cognitively, cognitively
developed enough to understand at least some of my material.

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And if my videos can help that particular age group with
strengthening their faith and getting closer to the Lord, that
would be a humongous win. Absolutely would be because the
enemy of our souls is also battling with God for the souls
of the next generation. So we have all the culture war

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stuff going on, We have all the battles in our generation that
go on. But the next generation is
really important because they'rethe ones who are going to
influence and basically determine to an extent how the
world operates in about 3-4 decades.
So you really want to make sure that today's youth have a great

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foundation for their faith, a great foundation for the
biblical worldview, so that theycan hold strong to it and not be
swayed by anything that comes against it.
That way they can give themselves the best life
possible and potentially even make the world a slightly better
place going forward. That's how I see that issue.

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What does your faith or how doesyour faith influence your views
on marriage, parenting, or family life?
Well, basically the way that thebiblical worldview has
influenced my faith is that while there are some people who
God has called to be single and celibate their entire lives,

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those people are rare and they usually are enabled in some way
to not be tempted and, you know,more intimate ways like most of
us are. And so because very few people
are called to that, I understandbiblically that most people are
called to be married. So marriage is something that

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should be on the table if you'rea Bible believing Christian.
And it's not something that you should look down upon because
there are people out there who look at having kids.
They look at being married as a big negative, as something that
would be a drain on their life and would inhibit them from
doing the things they really want to do.

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And that's great and all for them, but we are called as
Christians to have families and have kids and to teach our kids
the way of the Lord. And so if I ever get to that
position where I'm married and I'm able to have children that I
can parent and have a family life of my own outside of, you

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know, the family I grew up in, I'm definitely going to hold
strong to what the Bible says about all of those things.
That's the influence my faith will have on those.
Basically, what the Bible says about being a parent, what the
Bible says about, you know, managing your family life, what
it says about marriage itself. That's what I'm going to go with

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when I get to that point. Next question, What role does
gratitude play in your life and how do you practice it?
Oh, that is a great question because there's lots of things
that I have gratitude about. Like for example, all the people
currently subscribe to my YouTube channel, to my Bit Shoot

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channel, to my Rumble channel, and all the other channels that
I have. I have lots of gratitude for
each and everyone of you becauseas much as I can put out videos,
make them as good as possible and share them as much as
possible by myself on social media.
You guys are the ones who actually interact with the
content and you're the ones who actually subscribe to the

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channel. You like the content so much and
your guys are the ones who actually help with spreading the
videos around so they get more views.
So I look at each and every one of you who subscribes and who
hits the like buttons and who leaves your comments.
I have lots of gratitude to you guys because you guys, I make
TTOR what it is and I'm just very limited in what I can

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actually do. You guys are the ones that make
this happen, and I have a lot ofgratitude for you guys.
I guess I also, to an extent, have some gratitude towards the
alt tech platforms that exist sothat I don't have to solely rely
on my YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, etcetera to put my
content out there. I got options, so that way if

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any of the options goes bad, I still got others that I'm on,
and I think I have a lot of gratitude for alt tech platforms
because of that. I'm not limited in that way and
therefore don't have to censor my speech nearly as much as
someone who relies entirely on those platforms.
So yeah, I have a lot of gratitude for those.

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And I definitely have a lot of gratitude for my current church
slash work situation because when I was growing up going to
other churches, I never even gotthe chance to be involved in my
church before. And that was really something
that was on my heart to do for areally long time, but I couldn't

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do it back then because, well, various reasons, reasons I don't
even know. And then over time, I've
eventually got to the place where I'm at, where I'm at now.
And I have a lot of gratitude tomy church for giving me the
opportunity to be involved in the role of ATV producer and to
be involved with the putting on of all the outreach events that

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we do. It's an honor to be part of that
and something I have a lot of gratitude for.
Another question, how do you find a balance between your
spiritual life and other responsibilities?
Well, it's kind of the thing that most Christians have to
struggle with sometimes and theyhave to figure out at others.

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Basically, you just find time toread your Bible, you find time
to pray, and you basically make it fit in with everything else
you have to do. So whatever hours your job makes
you work, whatever kind of job you have, you just got to
balance it out a bit. It's just a trial and error and
seeing what works best for you and when things change and if

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that needs to change, figuring out what needs to change in
order for you to maintain that balance.
So I know for me it's making time to read my Bible, which in
my job, since I work at a churchand since my office is just
across the way from our prayer room, I sometimes use the prayer

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room as a place to do my own Bible reading because I know
that it's a nice peaceful, quietenvironment and I have a lot of
time on my hands usually when I do that and then I don't have to
worry about doing it at home. But if I had a job where I
couldn't do that, then I would have to find time at home to
read the Bible and do all that stuff that I do currently at

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church sometimes. Now the last question on this
original list says, looking back, what's one way you've seen
God's presence or faithfulness in your life story?
Well, I would say where I'm working at is the big, it's a
big way. I've seen God's presence and

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faithfulness in my story becauseI've wanted to be in a media job
since I was in high school. And unfortunately, I didn't have
any luck with getting into like a local newspaper or local TV
station or anything like that. And I also wanted to be involved
in my church growing up, but I never had an opportunity to do

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that either. So, and when I look at how I was
able to not only get a job at mychurch and be able to help out
at my church full time, but I also got to be a full time TV
producer, which is the kind of media job I have been wanting to
do basically since since high school, since my early college

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years. And so I can look back on that
and go, wow, I had to go througha lot of years of being a
caregiver and a lot of time where I wasn't even able to go
to church at times because of myjob.
I can look back on all of that and say as sucky as that was to
go through, it was God getting me ready to give me the things

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that I wanted back when I was inhigh school, back when I was in
my early college years. You know, he gave me a job doing
media production and I do it full time for my church, which
means I get serving my church full time at the same time.
Just the way he was able to be faithful to me in that regard
and give me those things after all these years, I'd say that is

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a big example of his faithfulness and presence in my
life. Just the fact that he got me
through that season of time and got me to where I am now.
And that is the original list ofthe questions for Christians
that Brett Keene had. This list is from back.
And I want to say, I want to sayearly June or maybe mid June.

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But I do see you there, bubble gun.
And yes, I do see you there, Father Jido.
Glad to see you guys and I'm sure Brett is too.
Let's see if anyone's on Rumble.No, not right now.
That's OK though. But any who, I think we are
going to go into the next set ofquestions that Brett Keene more

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recently did. And these questions, according
to Brett, are theological questions.
Yeah, the first set of questionsshould let people get to know
the person who's answering them,understand where they're coming
from and some of their influences, and then get to the
more grittier stuff. Which we're doing right now.

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So this post is from five days ago.
You said I interviewed Smokey St. on his channel.
I will post the majority of the questions I asked him below and
if anyone would like to share their perspective, you're
welcome. Please don't bother me if your
opinion or dislike of him unlessit's positive I'm not
interested. Some questions were off the
cuff, and so now we have this whole theological section of 50

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questions, and we're going to start going through them and
we're going to see how far they go.
And I'm going to do a little bitof inception here.
OK? We're good on time.
Theological question #1 How do you reconcile the concept of a
loving God with the existence ofsuffering and evil in the world?

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This is one of the most popular questions that you can ever ask
a Christian or a Christian apologist.
It's one of the big ones. It's basically the issue of
suffering and evil in the world.A lot of people would argue that
because suffering and evil existin the world, that this somehow
proves that if there is a God that he can't possibly be loving

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because he allows all this stuffto go on.
And this is just simply not truewhen you examine the biblical
worldview and what it says. Because The thing is, there are
people out there may want to be evil, may want to do evil
things, especially to basically give God the middle finger.

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And so because there are people out there who are like that, in
order for God not to be a tyrant, He has to get them free
will and allow them to do what they want, even if that means
rejecting God and doing these evil things.
We also know biblically that diseases and physical death
entered the world when Adam and Eve sinned.
And so suffering of the various kinds of suffering that there

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is, exists because of that sin that entered the world.
So suffering and evil in the world do nothing to disprove
God's existence. And they don't prove that he is
not loving because there's multiple ways of looking at it.
You see, if God was truly an evil maniacal monster who was

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not loving, what he could rightfully do at this point is
he could decide to kill all of us.
Because when you look at the book of Job, I believe it is Job
chapter. I want to say 34.
Actually, I'm going to look thisup.
Give me one second here because there's a passage in Job that

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talks about how God's breath andspirit is holding all of reality
together and that if he were to withdraw that spirit and
withdraw his breath that everyone would die.
But I need to actually look the post up in order to make sure I
got the reference right. For those of you watching this

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stream to look at later so you can see it for yourself.
Why is Bible Gateway down? That cannot possibly be not even
having Internet issues. That's weird.
That literally cannot be true. Hold on, let's try again.

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Oh wow, that's really weird, Brett.
It's not letting me pull up the website on that browser and
let's try it on another. What's going on, guy?
When I try to open up biblegateway.com on my web
browser that I was on, it says that I have no Internet and yet

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here we are doing this live stream.
Let me try bible.com. That might just work better.

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Well, I've been weird. I've been checking the live
stream from time to time and it's been doing all right.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too.
Seems to be doing OK on my end. Yeah, see, hold on, I'm going to
try something else. Let's see, we're on Google, so
let's just Google Bible. Now, while you're looking it up,

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I can tell you something I'd sayto someone who asked that kind
of question. Yeah, go ahead.
Well you're absolutely right, itis a very popular question by
atheist. It was a question I had to ask
all the time when I was a non believer.
But then I sat back and got to thinking to myself, if I'm going

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to agree and endorse the idea that objective evil truly
exists, then I also have to be lost, logical and rational and
intellectually honest and say that objective good must be real
as well. And in order for either one to
exist, there has to be an objective designer or God behind
it. So any atheist out there that

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ever brings up evil suffering orobjective good, they're they're
falling into their own intellectual trap.
They're basically implying that there's a God.
Yep, that is totally true, Brett.
Well, I'm just going to forego bringing it up on screen because
my Internet is being my computer's being weird.

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My Internet connection's strong,our stream is strong, yet for
some reason, anytime I try to look up any of the Bible
websites, I get the no Internet screen on my browser.
It's really weird stuff. Well, do you need the?
Questions to you, Are you havingproblems?
No, it's not the questions. It's me trying to look up a
verse on a Bible website. That's where I'm having the

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problems. Let's get back into the
application here, Blake. All right, so basically, if God
was truly evil, he wouldn't giveany one of us a chance at
redemption. Basically, once we sin against
him, he would wipe us out and that'd be it.

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But the fact that God gives us achance to get redeemed, the fact
that he gives us an opportunity to get out of what we got coming
to us by repenting of our sins and entering into a personal
relationship with Him by bowing the knee to Jesus.
The fact that God does that in spite of the fact that we are

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all evil criminals who have committed crimes against God and
against each other, and any goodworks that guilty criminals do
is just nothing but a bribe to God according to Isaiah, I think
it's Isaiah 60. Despite all of that stuff that
we have going against us and allthat stuff that rightly condemns
us before God, He loves us enough to give us a chance of

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what we got gain out of what we got coming to us.
And that's what the cross was all about.
The cross was about giving us redemption, salvation,
basically. We have a sin Ledger and God
himself paid for those sins by coming down in the 1st century

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as a man, Jesus of Nazareth, going to the cross, paying that
penalty for all sins, past, present and future.
And so now in order for that payment to apply to us, all we
have to do is repent of our sinsand bow the knee to Jesus and
enter into a personal relationship with Him.
And when we do those things, then Jesus's sacrifice on the

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cross is applied to our sin Ledger, it is wiped clean, and
then we are in good standing before God and we can spend
eternity with Him. That is something that we do not
deserve because of all the crimes we have committed against
God and his laws and against each other.
Because when you sin against another being, you're human

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being, you're sinning against someone who was made in the
image of God, which basically isyou sinning against God direct,
indirectly. So the fact that God gives us a
chance to get out of what we have coming to us, even though
there's no one holding a gun to his head, making him do this,
that proves that God is not justloving, He is the most loving.

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I could not do that. I could not give that kind of
opportunity of redemption like He does because it's just not in
my character. So that's how I reconcile the
concept of a loving God, the existence of suffering and evil
in the world. Suffering and evil in the world,
while horrible, do absolutely nothing to disprove God's

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existence or His loving nature. Because the fact that He even
gives us a chance to get out of what we have coming to us in
light of our crimes against Him.The fact that He even gives us a
chance to get out of what we gotcoming to us and to get right
with Him before it's too late, That is a level of love that no
human being, I'm convinced, is capable of having.

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So that's how I reconcile the issue question #2 What does it
mean to you personally to take up your cross and follow Jesus
in daily life? Well, what that means is that
you, well, at least in my life and the way I go through life,
that means to me that I have to adhere to everything that the

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Bible teaches and records. And if anything I come across in
life contradicts those things, even if it's coming from people
who are on my side, quote, UN quote, Well, I have to follow
what the Bible says, teaches andrecords and I have to reject the
thing in front of me that contradicts that.

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And that causes a lot of inconvenience that can cause
some uncomfortableness that can cause offense in other people,
that can cause all kinds of divisive problems.
But as Jesus said in the Gospels, he did not come.
He did not come to basically unite the world.

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He came to divide people to the point where families are divided
against each other over Jesus. So when it comes to taking up my
cross and following Jesus in daily life, to me that means you
have to be ready to take the hits that come with submitting
to Jesus and rejecting the worldly way of doing things.

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Number 30. I love this one because I talk
about this one all the time. How do you interpret the Bible's
creation account in light of modern scientific discoveries?
But now the way that the question is framed is done on
the premise that the modern scientific community, you know,

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the majority opinion of the scientific academic community is
more authoritative than the Bible on origins.
And so therefore, in order to adhere to the Bible and not be
an idiot, you have to figure outhow to interpret the Bible in
light of modern scientific discoveries or the modern

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scientific academic communities consensus.
That's what the question makes me think of as I read it.
So it's already flawed and biased just in the way it's
framed. Because if you're a Bible
believing Christian, you have toread the Bible in a
straightforward and contextual manner.

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And when you do that, you will realize that the Bible says and
teaches certain things, and thenyour job is to interpret the
world through that lens. The way that the question is
framed is the other way. It's framed in the way that you
have to look at what the modern scientific academic community
says on whatever issues they touch on.

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And then you have to interpret the Bible through that lens.
So the Bible and how it tells you to interpret the world is
completely at odds with the kindof way of viewing the world
that's outlined in behind this question.
And what happens when I do the interpreting the world through

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the lens of the Bible is I see the Bible teaching a 6100 year
old earth and universe. And I get that number from the
genealogies and time spans provided by Genesis, Exodus and
1st Kings chapter 6 verse one, which covers the entire time
between Adam and Eve being created and the fourth year of

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King Solomon's reign, which was like 900 some years before Jesus
was born. And of course our modern
calendar starts at Jesus's birth, so it's been 2025 years
since Jesus was born. You Add all that together and
you get a 6100 year old Earth and universe, and the human race

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is basically the same age, just five days younger.
So that's what you get when you read the Bible.
And so then you go into what thescientific and academic
community says and you discover that much of what they say is
completely backwards to what theBible says, like Big Bang

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cosmology for example. If you look up the order of
creation events in Big Bang cosmology, you discover that
they're actually the opposite ofwhat the Bible teaches in terms
of the order of creation events like animals and land and humans
and all that sun and moon and all that.
Completely opposite. You look at evolution and it is

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a godless, naturalistic process that no one has ever actually
seen occur in real space-time history.
But it's also the opposite of what God's, what God's word
says. Because when you read Genesis,
you read that God made the universe, the earth, the sea,
and everything that is in them over the course of three days

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over. Well, hold on, I got to rephrase
that. Exodus 28 through 11
specifically teaches that God created the universe, the earth,
the sea, and everything that is in those three things over the
course of six ordinary days by the speech of his mouth.
Because when you read the creation account, God speaks and

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then The thing is created immediately.
There's no delay. Evolution has you believe that
there was no God, there was no intelligent mind behind the
whole process, and also wants you to believe that instead of
things coming into existence almost instantaneously if not
instantaneously, they generally want you to believe that it

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takes long indefinite periods oftime for these things to come
into existence through this naturalistic process.
Even punctuated equilibrium, which is like the fast speedy
version of evolution, even something like that still takes
thousands upon thousands of years for evolution to occur,

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much longer than the pre flood people in the Bible who were
living to be almost 1000 years old on average.
So yeah, when I look at that's kind of stuff through the lens
of the Bible, I see that in mostcases, the evolution narrative,
the evolution paradigm of history completely contradicts

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what the Bible says on almost every point.
Which ironically enough, if you go back and look at the guys who
created the concept of deep time, like James Hutton, Charles
Lyell, those kind of guys, they actually stated that it was
their goal to get people to reject mosaic geology and to

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believe in this concept of deep time.
Because back when they said thatmost people believed in young
earth creationism in one form oranother.
You go look at the earliest versions of the Encyclopedia of
Britannica, and it said at the time that the Earth was roughly,

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roughly 5000, we think. Yeah, they the Earth was
roughly, you know, like 5800 years old at the time of that
encyclopedia. And it also said that the
geologic formations that we saw on the planet Earth were the
result of the flood of Noah. So in Cyclopedia of Britannica,

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most of the world believed in young Earth creationism in one
form or another at the time thatthe concept of deep time was
created, at the time that Charles Darwin basically came
out with his evolution narrativewith Origin of the Species and
all of his other works. All that stuff was done in order
to get people to reject young earth creationism, to reject

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what the Bible says on origins, to reject the flood of Noah that
is recorded in the Bible, which is responsible for the earth
being in the shape that it's in today.
By and large, that's why evolution and deep time
specifically were created, was to get people to reject the
Bible. And this is according to the
people who came up with the concept of deep time.

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So when you look at things and you understand that and you're a
Bible believing Christian, you just cannot ever reinterpret the
Bible in light of those things because you know that those
things were created to get you to reject what the Bible says.
That's literally why they were made.
And that's why whenever you see the age of the earth and
universe get revised, they nevermake it younger and then older

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and then younger and older because that's what you would
expect to see. If they were honest, genuine
people who are just trying to figure out how old the Earth is,
they would find stuff that wouldmake them think the Earth is
younger until they find something that makes them think
it's older, until they find something that makes it think
it's younger again. You'd see it back and forth on
the age of the Earth and universe every time that it's

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the age of it is revised, but weactually see instead in real
life, every time they revise theage of the Earth and universe,
they always make it older. I know one thing Brett and I
have talked about in recent years is about how they're now
trying to convince us that the universe is 30 to 40 billion
years old instead of being 1314 billion years old.

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They're basically almost tripling the age of the Earth
and universe at this point. And the way that that works for
them is that it hides evolution and Big Bang cosmology into this
eternal past that you can't see.And so basically, as long as you
believe that deep time is a realthing, then evolution will

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always seem plausible, no matterhow ridiculous and
counterintuitive it is. Because that's what happens with
a lot of people. They look at evolutionary
concepts, they look at what you see in reality, and they go,
well, I don't see that occurringin reality today.
But I mean, the universe and Earth are billions of years old.
So I guess with all that time totraverse, I guess evolution

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happened at some point in the past.
I mean, it must have. It's just mathematically
impossible. I've seen that a lot of times on
the Internet. And that's what happens when you
you go through all this stuff and you go through it from a
worldly perspective, and you don't let the Bible be your
authority on origins. You don't interpret what you see

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in the world and in science through the lens of the Bible.
You end up believing in evolution in billions of years,
and then you constantly revise the age of the Earth and
universe to be even older, to make evolution seem more
plausible. And basically to save the
theory, because that's how it's going to work out if things

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don't change, is every time theyrevise the age of the earth and
universe, they'll always make the earth and universe even
older. And every time they make it
older, they create more of this unseeable, unobservable past
where evolution supposedly happened but no human being was
around for to record it or to perform an experiment to verify
it. Not even possible in principle

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according to the evolutionary worldview.
And yet we're supposed to believe them because they say
so. Like there's some kind of high
priests that we're supposed to just believe.
I thought we weren't supposed tobe in that kind of religion, if
you know what I mean. Now #4 is also a good question.

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In what ways do you think the church has strayed from the
teachings of Jesus and how can it return to them?
Well, that is an excellent question because when we talk
about the teachings of Jesus, I would say it's not limited just
to the Gospels, because according to the Gospels,
according to the Bible, Jesus isGod.

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He's not a prophet from God, although he did fulfill prophecy
regarding a prophet that was listed in the Torah.
Jesus was not just a messenger, He's not some kind of a creation
of God. He actually is God himself.
He called himself Yahweh in John858, and so Jesus is God.

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And because God used the old test, used the writers of the
Old Testament as pens to write His written word to humanity,
just like He did for the writersof the New Testament, then it
stands to reason that Jesus is ultimately the author of the
entire Bible. Which means that the teachings

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of the entire Bible are Jesus's.Which is why it says in
Colossians chapter 2 that all the treasures of wisdom and
knowledge are found in Christ Jesus.
Because Jesus is God. God is the source of all truth.
And so therefore, when you're talking about the teachings of
Jesus, you're really talking about the entirety of the Bible.

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And so when you talk about how the church is strayed from the
teachings of Jesus and how can it return to them, origins is
one of those big issues where the church has strayed far from
what the Bible says. But this isn't surprising
because when you read the New Testament, you see that almost
immediately after Jesus ascendedto heaven following his

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resurrection, they had heretics and follow ways popping up all
over the place in the Christian world, even back then when the
New Testament documents were being written down and recorded
and put together. So people's churches and
Christians straying from the teachings of Jesus in the Bible

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is nothing new goes back to the beginning of our faith.
But in terms of the modern age, we've strayed from what the
Bible says on origins, which in turn has allowed us to stray on
other things, like whether or not Jesus is God, whether or not
the Jews are still God's chosen people and Israel still his
chosen nation. Whether or not Christians have

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replaced Jews as those things, or whether or not the church has
replaced Israel as God's chosen nation.
That kind of stuff occurs because people are straying from
the teachings of Jesus. They're straying from the
teachings of the Bible. They ignore stuff that blatantly
contradicts what they believe inorder to maintain their false

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beliefs. And so the way to return to
those teachings of Jesus in the Bible is simply to not just read
them and know what they say, butto accept them and reject the
lies. And that's something that people
have a much harder time doing. I have this concept I did a
video on called the Young Earth Creationism Triangle.

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But really it can apply to any true thing that the Bible says,
'cause there's, oh, there's knowledge and there's a, Oh
yeah, that's how the triangle goes.
Basically. There's knowing what the
biblical worldview says, there'sbeing willing to be obedient to

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what it says. And you know what?
I'm going to look up the triangle on my end.
Just give me one second. Hopefully bit shoot comes up.
Well, apparently not. Look at that.
Might have to pull out my phone for this one.
I'm going to actually do that right now.

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Just give me a second. Tell him a story, Brett, so we
don't have dead air. What kind of story you want to
hear? Whatever 1 you want.
All right, well, let's see. I just got done watching the

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Happy Gilmore 2 with Adam Sandler.
I thought it was going to be a bust, but it actually turned out
to be even better than the firstone, which is a shocker.
Usually the original movies and films are better than sequels.
You know, sequels are usually a a cash grab.
But they Adam Sandler was fantastic and it was really

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funny. There's a lot more intense, more
dramatic, a great deal of the storyline.
Wow. Yeah, that's extremely unusual.
You ever seen Happy Gilmore one before?
Oh yeah, many times. Love it.
So I might actually have to get a Netflix account for a month

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just so I can watch it. You are triangle.
Yeah, it's really, really good. It blows the first one out of
the water. All right, I found the triangle
I was thinking about earlier. The triangle, yeah, there's
three sides to this triangle. Belief, obedience, and

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knowledge. Now, the triangle that I am
looking at in particular is for young Earth creationism and the
context of Young Earth creationism.
The three sides of the triangle are as follows. 1 You have to
believe in the biblical worldview because if you don't
believe in what the biblical worldview says, it doesn't
matter if you have the other sides or not.

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As if you don't believe in the biblical worldview, you could be
the kind of person who knows what the Bible says and you
could be the kind of person who would obey what it says if you
believed in it. But if you don't believe in it,
then you can't be a young earth creationist.
Or if you believe in the biblical worldview and you're
the kind of person who would be willing to obey its teachings of

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younger of creationism, but you don't know that the Bible
teaches younger of creationism. Well, then you'll never be a
younger of creationist, which iswhat I used to be.
But then there's the kind of people where they could believe
in the biblical worldview and they could know what the Bible
says, primarily that it teaches younger of creationism.

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But if they're not willing to obey that teaching and adhere to
it, then they won't be a youngercreationist, which a lot of
older creationists fall into this camp.
But the same thing can apply to other topics like Jesus being
God. You know, let's just do that as
an example. If you're the kind of person who
believes in the biblical worldview, and you're the kind

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of person who would obey what the world biblical worldview
says when it says that Jesus is God, but you don't know that
Jesus is God according to the Bible, well then you're not
going to believe that Jesus is God.
Or if you know that Jesus is Godaccording to the Bible, and
you're the kind of person who'd be willing to obey that, if you

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believed in the biblical worldview, but you don't
actually believe in the biblicalworldview, well, then you're not
going to believe that Jesus is God.
And of course, if you believe inthe biblical worldview and you
know that the Bible teaches thatJesus is God, but you refuse to
accept that, well, then you're not going to accept the teaching
that Jesus is God. So belief, knowledge, and

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obedience, you have to have those three factors.
We're all in play at the same time in order to believe
whatever is in the middle of that triangle, whether it be
young earth creationism, whetherit be Jesus being God.
There's all kinds of things thatcould fit into that triangle

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that the Bible teaches. But you have to have all three
of those sides in order to adhere and believe in those
things. So that's what the point of the
triangle was. And now that I've gone through
the concept of the triangle, let's get back to the list of
questions. So we just did, OK, That one,

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number 5, how do you discern when a prompting is from the
Holy Spirit versus your own thoughts or desires?
Now, this is a very, very good question, Brett.
I'm glad you put it in this listbecause biblical illiteracy is
the problem at play here when we're talking about this

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question, and it is biblical literacy that is the solution to
the problem. Because you see, most people
call themselves Christians are what we call biblically
illiterates. They may know a couple of things
that the Bible teaches, but in general they don't know anything
else that the Bible teaches or records, and so they're very

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ignorant regarding what their own Bible says.
And this is a huge problem because if you don't know what
the Bible says and a lying spirit comes to you and puts
thoughts or desires in your headthat sound good or sound true
but may really not be, well, then you're more likely to be
LED astray because you don't know any better.

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Because you don't know what the Word of God says.
And because you don't know what the Word of God says, you won't
know whether the Holy Spirit's talking to you or not.
But if you do know, generally speaking, what the Bible says,
teaches, and records, and that will allow you to know when the
Holy Spirit is actually speakingto you versus a lying spirit.

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Because as you know, objective truth is a real thing.
There is an objective truth thatbasically is encompasses all of
reality. And the thing about truth is
that truth can never contradict itself.
So the Holy Spirit, for example,is never ever going to tell you

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anything that contradicts what the Bible says.
And so if you got a spirit coming to you putting thoughts
or desires in your head that contradict what the Bible says,
and you know it, you are free todismiss those thoughts and those
desires because you know what the Bible says.
And therefore you know what the Holy Spirit's voice sounds like.

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And when it tells you what to doin regards to these thoughts and
desires that are coming up in your head, well then at that
point, you know what to do. Otherwise you're being willfully
disobedient if you don't. So biblical literacy is the key
to that question because it is the lack of knowing what the
Bible says that creates the problem that the question

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describes. And it's knowing what the Bible
says that is going to help solvethe problem.
Because when you know what the Bible says, it will be very easy
to tell when your own thoughts or desires are entering your
head versus what the Holy Spiritsays.
Hopefully I was fluent enough inanswering that particular
question. Number six is another good one.

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What role does doubt play in your faith journey and how do
you address it? Well, doubt comes to everyone at
one point or another when it comes to their faith.
Doubts are what keep people fromembracing the faith in the first
place in some cases. And then there's some people who
they convert to the faith, but then they start to have doubts

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about it. And when their doubts aren't
adequately addressed or dealt with, they end up deconverting
from the faith and doing something else.
So addressing doubts is very important because you have to
consider what you're being sold.And I think this is actually
dealing with the general conceptof being deconverted from the

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faith. Like if you're a Christian, for
example, and you got an atheist telling you that the biblical
world is not true, God doesn't exist, Jesus doesn't exist, or
at least is not existing in the way the Bible describes.
And he's trying to sell you atheism as an alternative
worldview to believe in. What you have to do is you have

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to look at what they're trying to sell you.
But what worldview narrative arethey asking you to believe in to
replace your belief in the biblical worldview?
Now, when I do that kind of comparison, I find that the
paradigm of history, the evolutionists and atheists are
trying to sell me is so much weaker than the biblical

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worldview in terms of logic, reason, evidence, all that jazz.
Basically, they're trying to sell me damaged goods.
They're trying to sell me a big fat lie is what I come to the
conclusion of when I look at what they're trying to sell me.
But that can be true of Islam, that can be true of Mormonism,

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That can be true of anyone who has a contradictory worldview to
yours. And they're trying to make you
doubt your faith by making arguments against it and making
arguments in favor of their own worldview.
So I would say to anyone, the most important thing to think
about when you have doubts and you have people who are
introducing these doubts into your head and try to convince

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you to embrace an alternative worldview.
You always look at the object, the world view that they're
trying to sell you. Because when you get right down
to it, if you know what they're trying to sell you and you
realize what they're trying to sell you is a far worse and
false alternative to what you currently believe, well, then

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your doubts won't seem so bad because, you know, Well, yeah, I
have doubts about this in my faith, but I looked at what that
other guy's trying to sell me on, and it is way worse.
There's no way I can embrace that.
Well, then you'll be OK with your doubts.
I think that's the way to deal with any doubts that you have.
Because there are some things the Bible talks about pretty

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clearly, and then there's some things that the Bible doesn't
really talk about that people have doubts and questions on.
And so the important thing when dealing with doubt in your faith
journey is you need to, you know, just accept what the Bible
says on certain things that you may doubt the truthfulness of.

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If the Bible has things that it doesn't address but that you
have doubts on, well then don't worry about things that it
doesn't address. And then when people are trying
to de convert you into another worldview and you have your
doubts about your worldview being true, always look at what
the alternative they're trying to sell you on is.
Always do that question #7 though how should Christians

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respond to cultural trends that conflict with biblical values?
Now this may sound like a hard question to some, but to me this
is an easy question. If the cultural trend conflicts
with the biblical value, you throw out the cultural trend.
Easy. Of course, the problem is that
most people can't do that. Most people love cultural

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trends. They love conforming to the
world because God is not the ultimate authority of their
hearts and their minds. They want to have their cake and
eat it too, at best, and at worst, they really don't care
about what God says. They just want to fit in with
the world. So with people like that, it
could be very hard for them to set aside cultural trends that

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conflict with biblical values. So either they will reject what
the Bible teaches the biblical value and accept the cultural
trend, or they will try to reinterpret the Bible in light
of the cultural trend in order to make it seem like in their
head that they don't conflict. And therefore this allows them
to embrace the cultural trend without feeling like they're

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rejecting their biblical worldview.
That's what I think about that particular question #8 is it
possible to fully love your neighbor as yourself?
And what does that look like in practice?
Well, I need to go use the bathroom really quick.

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Brett, why don't you go ahead and give your thoughts on that
question for a SEC and then whenI get back, I'll answer it.
Well, it depends. I've got some neighbors that are
actually really good and kind and sweetheart, so they make it
fairly easy to be able to give because they give back.

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Some of them obviously are selfish, greedy and have all the
bad traits. What are you going to do with
that? You know, hold on a second.
Oof, that's an issue with my arm.
There we go. Well, hopefully TT Wire will

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make it back soon. Oh, boy.
How's everybody doing out there?Hope everybody's doing all
right. I'm a little tired today.
The heat's been kind of rough. Now.
Let's see what we got here. Goodness gracious.

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Hey, buddy. All right, I am back.
Good deal. Oops, did someone just enter the
room or? No, you did.
OK, as I play my headphones on it here, I hear, yay, buddy, I'm

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like, who's joining the room? All right, got some Sprite on my
hands to help with that. OK, so we just talked about that
faith journey, cultural trends, love your neighbor as yourself.
And what does that look like in practice?
Right. So loving your neighbor as

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yourself, part of that is the golden rule, as Jesus outlined,
You know, you treat others the way you want to be treated.
That's part of loving your neighbor as yourself.
And then love, well, love can mean different things to
different people. And that's where we can come
into something like enabling people.

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Like if people have destructive habits and you're not doing
anything to deter them from that, and instead you're
accommodating them as they engage in those practices, well
then you're just enabling them and you're not really being
loving because you're basically enabling them to continue their
destructive life. And that's kind of where
evangelism is similar, because people who reject the biblical

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worldview are, in effect, givingGod the middle finger and going
the other way. And going the other way often
leads them into, at some point or another, living a destructive
lifestyle that is detrimental totheir mental health, their
spiritual health, their emotional health, and in many

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cases, their physical health. Basically, they destroy
themselves in slow motion over the course of the rest of their
lives if they reject God every step of the way to the grave.
And so in order to not be an enabler of that, sometimes the
loving thing is to tell people, hey, you're living and believing

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a lie. This is the truth according to
God in His Word. And if you adhere to this truth
and you accept it and you rejectthe lies you believe, you will
be better off even if your life doesn't necessarily get easier.
That is a form of love that we need to display to our
neighbors. Because it's one thing to play

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nice and get along, but there are times where you will have a
neighbor of sorts who is engaging in self destructing
lifestyles and if you don't say something to them, it is highly
possible nobody will and they'llbe even worse off in the end.
So sometimes loving your neighbor as yourself involves
tough love, which simply means telling them inconvenient truths

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they may not necessarily want tohear, but that is beneficial to
their long term well-being. That's kind of how I look at
loving your neighbor as yourselfin terms of how it works out in
practice #9 though says how do you balance grace and truth when
addressing sin in your own life or others lives?

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Yeah, that can be really tricky depending upon what the sin is.
In the case of people like ChrisJones, yeah, that's that's hard
to have a balance of grace and truth there when the truth is so
horrendously ugly. But, you know, when people's

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sins are relatively minor, at least in our eyes, it's easier
to give them a lot of grace on that, especially if you can tell
that their remorse and their sorrow and their repentance over
it is genuine. It's generally easier to have
grace for people like that because, you know, they know

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they messed up, they know they did wrong and they, they don't
want to do it anymore. They want to be better.
They want to change. Well, it's easy to have grace
for people like that. But when you're dealing with
someone who's not repentant, they're not sorry about what
they've done, they have no regrets whatsoever.
Well, and they want to keep living that way.

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And yeah, it's, it's hard to, it's hard to give them grace in
that circumstance because it's obvious that they don't want to
be any better or different. But then again, you also aren't
their judge. So like God says in the New

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Testament through the apostle Paul that basically God is the
one judging the world. So Christians should only focus
on judging ourselves and our communities in terms of being
really strict judges. So when it comes to the world,
there's a certain amount of grace we have to have for non
believers because after all, they're non believers.

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They're doing what non believersdo.
You shouldn't expect them to behave any differently until
they become believers. And so there's a certain amount
of grace you have to have for people like that.
But when you're dealing with so-called Christians who are
engaging in some very heretical teachings and practices, or
they're engaging in some really destructive evil behaviors,

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well, then you need to be a lot stricter and a lot harsher in
some cases. Which is why when you have screw
ups in Christian communities, like having convicted pedos be
among you and having access to children, well, yeah, it's going

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to be really hard to have grace in that scenario because of that
kind of thing is unacceptable. Or if there is people teaching
outright heresy in relation to fundamental core Christian
doctrines. The Bible says that we're
supposed to have nothing to do with such people as Christians
in terms of heretics and false teachers within our faith.

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But yet so many times you see Christians giving that
fellowship and time and energy and focus to these people being
in complete disobedience from that.
So that's why sometimes you see in the world that Christians,
while they do criticize worldly unbelievers, they seem to be

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friendlier to them than they areto Christians who teach heresy
or who have false teachings thatcontradict what the Bible says.
Because the Bible says we're notsupposed to have fellowship with
false teachers and heretics. So that's why you see that kind
of behavior going on in the world and that's where the

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balance of grace and truth can get a little murky because it's
hard to balance in all the commands.
OK, excuse me now. The next question is what are
the implications of Jesus statement?
I am the way, the truth and the life in a pluralistic society.

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Oh, that's another popular 1 Brett, that you and I have come
across way too many times in ourlife.
The universalist approach where all religions lead to God, all
religions lead to heaven, all religions are true in a way.
They're all really saying the same thing.
So don't be exclusive, be inclusive.

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Well, as you pointed out in the question, Jesus said in John
chapter 14 verse 6, I am the way, the truth and the life.
No one goes to the Father exceptthrough me.
So Jesus was the ultimate exclusive when it comes to this
line of thought. And so when we look at that,

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when you say that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life, and
no one gets to God except through him, the pluralistic
society that basically says all religions are the same or
they're all equally valid, they're going to have a real
problem with you being so exclusive.
They'll accuse you of being intolerant, but then when they
do that, they become intolerant themselves and thus become

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hypocrites, and their whole worldview falls apart.
But, but don't ask it to make sense, because that's the way
that people are. But yeah, what do you think,
Brett, about Jesus's claim of exclusivity in the pluralistic
society that we've been living in most of our lives?
Well, you have to elaborate on that the way you said that.

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A pluralistic society or what Jesus said.
Well, Arne, I mean, go ahead andput it in a different way for
me. I'm a little my brains help me
all right now because of the heat.
OK that makes sense. Well Jesus said he was the way,
the truth and the life and the only way to God was through him

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in John 14-6 and the world we live in today.
If they do embrace religion, they basically are pluralistic.
They say that all religions are valid or all religions are the
same or, you know, as long as you have some kind of religion
that you adhere to, it's all good and we should just embrace
each other's religions as all being equally true.

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So how do you so how do you lookat that issue?
Well it's weird because majorityof the religions that exist
today actually endorse Jesus Christ, but they don't endorse
each other. Christianity is definitely
exclusive. Like if you look at Islam, they

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endorse Jesus Christ. They just have a couple
different stories. And what's different from the
Bible? There's a lot of pagans I've
talked to that actually believe Jesus exists and that he did
miracles. There's even theistic Satanists
who believe in Jesus and believeGod is real.
He just happened to believe God's the bad guy in the picture

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and the weird. Yeah, and I know what you mean
too. Like when you look at Islam,
yes, they endorse Jesus, but he's only a prophet akin to like
Moses or Abraham. He's not God in human form
according to Islam. And so that's that.
And many other things they teachabout Jesus is where they run
into problems with the Bible andcontradicting it.

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But you are right that they giveJesus a special place in their
religion. He's not a mere human being.
He's not some lowlife in their religion.
He's a prophet. Then you got Mormonism, which
teaches that Jesus is our spiritbrother and so is Satan, and

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they're spirit brothers of each other.
That basically Jesus was a humanjust like us at some point who
got elevated by going through the Mormon way of doing things.
So even though he is elevated inthe Mormon religion, they
ultimately de, they ultimately demean him.
They ultimately devalue him by making him just like us, at

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least at one point, because thatreligion teaches that we can all
become like God if we adhere to all the tenants of Mormonism and
make it to that ultimate tear ofheaven.
They teach that you basically become your own God and you get
your own worlds and universes tocreate and do all the fun stuff
that God does, which sounds goodfor people in the Garden of

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Eden, but it's not reality. Well, I, I hear you.
And I've actually, I enjoy having discussions with them
about the other worlds and all that.
And apparently they don't have that, that doctrine completely
straightened out in their head because I said, does that mean
that my wife has to live on the same world as me?

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Do my kids get the separate planets?
I mean, how does this work? And why would anybody enjoy
themselves living on a planet all by themselves?
But as far as becoming like gods, doesn't the Bible have a
couple passages where it says like they have become like gods?
Their eyes have been opened. You hear what this from the

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Bible. Yeah, I know that Jesus referred
in the Gospels to a passage fromthe Old Testament where there
was a particular group of kings that God called gods in one
context. So when people were going after
Jesus for claiming to be Yahweh in human form, Jesus pointed out
that, hey, you know, God called these people gods.

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So why do you have a problem with me claiming to be God in
any sense? Well, don't, I mean, don't you
believe that if we, I, I don't know what your thoughts are in
heaven, are the glorified bodiesthat it speaks of in Revelation?
But don't we get some kind of inner knowledge and wisdom and
power and authority ourselves, but not, of course, anything

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close to God. But we'll be powerful, won't we?
Yeah, the resurrection bodies which are going to be huge
because if you go in younger creationism circles and you look
at what their thoughts are on what the pre flood world is like
and why people were living to beover 900 years old on average.

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And why you see people in Bible times who were like really
freaky tall, just to put it white lightly.
The common theory I've seen in creationism circles is that
prior to the flood of NOAA occurring 4544 hundred years
ago, there was a layer of water in some form around Earth's

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atmosphere which not only blocked out the harmful rays of
the sun and outer space, but it also increased the oxygen level
of the planet from 21 to 30%. And this increase in oxygen,
combined with the other factors and other factors I'm not
listing, would allow people to become a lot bigger and taller

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and stronger. And they'd be smarter too,
because they'd have more brain capacity.
And the aging process would be so slowed down that they could
easily live to be 1000 years oldon average.
Which would also explain why in the Bible you saw that some guys
were having children at like 500years old.
Because I believe the aging process pre flood was slowed

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down so much that people who were 500 years old would have
the body of someone who could, you know, get pregnant and have
children. And that's why it says in the
New Testament that when the Kingdom comes and we have our
resurrection bodies and the world is restored to the way it
was prior to the flood of Noah, someone who dies at 100 years

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old will be considered an infant, will be considered a
babe. Because in the pre flood world,
living to 100 years old was nothing.
Living to 1000 years old roughlywas normal.
So I think our resurrection bodies are going to be very
similar to the pre flood bodies that we once had as a human

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species. I think those bodies are going
to be a lot bigger, stronger, faster.
We're going to be smarter. And plus, even without these
bodies in play, even if you don't factor them in it at all,
we're going to have 24/7, 365 access to God himself, and we'll
be in relationship with Him, literally the fount of all

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wisdom and knowledge we will have direct access to.
And so we'll get smarter just from talking to God.
We won't know as much as Him, but we will be way smarter than
we can ever be in this life. Because at that point in time,
those of us who are in God's Kingdom will be able to talk
with Him directly, and He will tell us whatever we want to

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know, because He knows everything.
That's what I mean by we'll become almost like God, like
physically. The Bible says that there won't
be no suffering or pain and havethe rights be joy.
And if that's the case, then no one can actually hurt us.
Nothing can physically hurt us. So in a sense we'd be like them.

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I I suppose smaller like gods, but not in the sense like the
Supreme. I've heard people ask questions.
Can God make a God like himself?That's an illogical question
because God is the original creator and if he creates
something then it can't have thesame origin story that God did.

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Does that make sense? Yeah, it makes sense, but I just
saw a comment. Oops, somebody stopped sharing.
Gonna go for it, said. I recall you giving Jackson
Wheat your word that you'd come on his channel if he'd come on
yours first. Will you be keeping your word as
a man of God? Yes.

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I actually did get an e-mail from him during fireworks season
asking if I'd do that. I haven't responded to his
e-mail yet, but I do plan on keeping my word and going on to
his channel. I just need to do other things
first. But I do intend to follow up
with him on that. Who's this person?

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Jackson Wheat. Yeah, the person you're going
online with them, are they Christian?
Atheist. What's the deal?
Jackson leads an atheist. I believe you actually moderated
our first discussion that we had.
OK. It was almost a year ago, but it
happened and I believe you were the moderator and I did promise

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him I would go on to his channeltoo, so I need to get in touch
with him to figure that out. Well, he behaved.
He behaved on our stream, so we'll see how his goes.
But anywho, I will get in touch with him later and when we have
an actual date for when I'll be on his channel, I'll let

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everybody know on the YouTube community page of my channel and
on my social medias, Twitter, Gab, Getter, true social,
etcetera. So don't worry guys, that is
something I intend to do and I will keep my word on that.
And you can go tell Jackson thatif you're watching this, going

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to go for it. Anyhoo, let's get back into
share screen and we got some time for a few more questions
and let's go into it. So we were at OK, so there's the
pluralistic. All right, here we go.

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How do you understand the concept of predestination versus
free will in your theology? Now, Brett, when you say the
word predestination, are we talking about like the Calvinism
way of things, where God's already decided before you even
born whether or not you're goingto be saved or condemned to
hell, and therefore it makes your whole life feel

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predetermined? According to my AI, because I
made sure to look it up, predestination is used nine
times throughout the entirety ofthe Bible. 9 times and free will
as mentioned a few times in the New Testament.
As you know, I myself call myself a compatibilist so I I

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don't know what your view is on it though.
You don't. Ask.
Go ahead. I was just asking what
predestination means in the context of the question.
Well basically predestination would be that God understands.
Some people believe it means that your your fate is set in
stone because God knows from beginning to end.

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Others believe that you know Godopens it up and sets the
parameters for there to be free will.
That's pretty much where I'm at in the compatibilism area.
OK, well when you look at the Bible, it teaches that God is
all knowing. So basically he knows what

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everyone is going to end up doing.
He knows who's going to end up saved, who's going to end up
not. And so when people hear that,
they automatically think, well, God's predetermined our destiny
and our lives, and nothing we can do changes that and
therefore we don't have free will.
But the truth of the matter is that you do have free will.

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The thing is that because God isall knowing, he knows what the
outcome will be to any decision you make, no matter what choice
you make in that decision. So if you choose to get saved
and try being a Christian, God knows how that's going to go.
If you choose to reject that offer of forgiveness that God

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gives us through the gospel and go your own way and go the way
of the world, well, God knows how your life is going to go in
that regard. Or if you are, you know, getting
in your car and you're going down the road and you have an
opportunity where you can eitherchoose to do something risky on
the road to get somewhere faster, or you can choose to

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stay in your lane and be a safe driver.
Well, God knows what's going to happen to you if you choose to
take that risk. And he knows what's going to
happen to you if you choose to stay in the safe lane.
The thing is, no matter what, nomatter what happens to us in our
life, whenever we come into a situation where we have to make

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a choice, make a decision on anything, God knows what's going
to happen when we pick one option.
He knows what's going to happen if we pick the other option.
So he's not forcing us to chooseone thing or another.
He just knows what will happen to us regardless of which choice
we choose. So we do have free will to

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choose what we want to do in ourlives and with our lives.
And God knows what will happen to us no matter what choice we
make. And so that's where a lot of
people, that's where people are into problems.
Yeah. That's where people have a lot
of issues because they don't understand the difference
between God knowing something versus God making something

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happen. Right, because God's not making
you choose those things. You're choosing them.
He just knows what the outcome of your choice will be no matter
what. You're just what you choose, and
it's like that for every decision you make.
And it's like that for every human being that has ever
existed, exists today, and will ever exist.

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And when you start thinking on that scale, that's where you
realize, wow, God is so much smarter than we are because of
all that stuff He could see. That's a level of knowledge that
we will never attain ever, not even in our resurrection bodies.

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But the next question is, what does it mean to be in the world,
but not of the world, in today'ssociety?
Now, that's a good question because in my head in
particular, I immediately think of modern technology.
There's a lot of people out there in the atheist
evolutionist community who wouldlook at a Christian like me, you

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know, using modern laptops of all this streaming software,
editing software built in, you know, using smartphones and
taking advantage of modern medicine for, you know, healing
sicknesses and whatnot with the human body.
They would look at all that and claim that, oh, you Christians
reject science. And yet here you are using

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science and using technology to,you know, better your life.
And that just goes completely against your worldview.
So when it comes to being in theworld, but not of the world, in
that context, I think it's important to make use of the
technology that we have available to us today.

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But we don't need to do all the things the world does.
We don't need to think like them.
We don't need to talk like them.We don't need to do the things
they do with this technology. We can use the technology to do
what God calls us to do, mainly to preach and teach, to
evangelize, and to attempt to help people get right with God

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before their time comes so they can have a chance to get out of
what's coming to them, be in right relationship with God, and
ultimately spend eternity with Him in a resurrection body in
the Kingdom. That should be the goal of
Christians using modern technology in today's society.
That's a good example, I think, of being in the world but not of

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the world. You're making use of the world's
technology, but you're not, you know, falling into their trap,
basically. That's kind of how I view the
topic. What do you think, Brett, about
the idea of being in the world, but not of the world in today's
society? Well tell you the truth, the

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world never seemed to want to bevery accepting of myself anyway,
so luckily for me that's been a pretty easy ride.
As far as I I think what it's basically saying though is we we
need not to get so used to things.
I noticed when you go further into the passages it says don't

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get connected or obsessed with materialistic things.
Don't get attached to stuff. You know you'll get greater
rewards in heaven. Exactly.
Yeah. The next question, how do you
approach the tension between OldTestament laws and New Testament
teachings on grace? Now this question is a little

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bit misleading because a lot of the teachings on grace that come
in the Bible actually come from the Old Testament, and some of
the teachings on God's wrath andjudgement come from the New
Testament, not the Old Testament.
You can find both in both Testaments.
For example, Ezekiel chapter 18 I believe it is.

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There's a whole passage and likeverses 21 through the end of the
chapter where it talks about howGod wants people to repent and
get right with him because he doesn't want to punish them for
their sins. And so he desperately pleads
with them to get in right relationship with him so that
they can be forgiven and they can be given a new heart and

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they could have their desires tosin, you know, taken away from
them and all the stuff that it says.
But it's like a very New Testament teaching found
directly in the Old Testament. And then you go to the New
Testament, you find passages from Jesus condemning people to
hell and telling them that they're all going to go to hell

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and talking about God's wrath and judgment coming upon them,
which a lot of people assume only comes from the Old
Testament when it comes to God dealing with like the Canaanites
and all of the related people groups that fall under that
umbrella. So the idea that there's any
tension at all between Old and New Testament teachings on grace

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is not true. Both testaments teach the same
thing regarding grace, repentance, forgiveness, God's
love for people, wrath, judgment.
Both testaments, they teach the same thing.
They do not contradict each other at all, and anyone who

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believes that they do, they either don't know this stuff or
just ignorant, or they do know this stuff and they're
deliberately misleading people. So when it comes to grace, there
is no tension between Old and New Testament on grace.
The teachings are the same. Now, the next question we have

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is what is the role of the church in addressing social
issues like poverty, racism or injustice?
Now this Brett, as you know, canbe a lot trickier.
Some of these more than others, like poverty, for example, is
something that my church addresses in a form through some

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of our outreach ministries. Sunday mornings, we offer free
breakfasts that are open to everyone in the community.
So they can literally come through our church doors and
they can have, we usually serve like eggs, bacon, hash Browns,
biscuits and gravy. That's normally what we serve at
a Sunday breakfast. And then sometimes we have to

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mix it up a little when suppliesare low.
But generally speaking, on Sunday mornings, we serve eggs,
bacon, hash Browns, and biscuitsand gravy to anyone in our
community who comes through our doors for free.
So they can get a free meal and they can also sit in our
services if they want to, which a lot of them end up doing.

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And then on Wednesday nights andwe have our men and women's
Bible study at the church as well as our Wednesday night
youth groups. We also have a dinners that we
serve to the community. Anyone in the community can come
in, they can have dinner, and they can participate in any of
the groups. Well, if they're an adult, they
can participate in any of the Bible study groups.

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And if they're a youth, they canparticipate in the youth group.
So yeah. But the point is, the
community's open to that. They're given free food on
Sunday mornings and Wednesday nights.
And then three weeks a month, wehave a food box drive where
anyone in the community can comethrough our church parking lot
and get a food box that has a week's worth of food in it.

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And they can actually have theirfood needs met during the week
by coming through our drive through, which is really
important for people who are notnecessarily broke, but they're
like stuck in a a rut in their life.
And their inability to get theirown food is stopping them from

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moving up in life. Like for example, right after
fireworks season was over, I went and got a haircut in my
local Barber shop. And the guy giving me my haircut
is someone who a few years back was in a much lower status in
his life in terms of his finances and whatnot.
And he actually had to rely on my church's food box drive every

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month in order to get food and not have to use his money on
that until he got to the point where he didn't need the food
boxes anymore. But, you know, people like him
needed those food boxes for a season in order to get where
they needed to go in life. And then once they got where
they needed to go, they didn't need to use that anymore.
But that's the kind of communityoutreach that my church does to

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fight poverty in a, in a sense. So we're literally feeding
people. We're literally meeting a need
for them if they're struggling in life and just trying to get
by. And then we do other outreach
stuff here and there to try and help people with their poverty

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issues or poverty related issues.
So the church has a big role in dealing with stuff like that and
my church lives it out all the time.
Racism, however, is a little trickier because it depends on
what you're talking about, because there's some people who
use and abuse racism as a word so much that it loses all

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meaning. But then there are people who
actually are bigoted against people on the basis of their
skin color. Like there are people who are
bigoted against black people simply because of the color of
their skin. There are people who are bigoted
against Jews because of the color of their skin or because
of the nation that they inhabit,you know, stuff like that.

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So when it comes to racism, the role of the church in addressing
these issues is to condemn it. The Bible makes it clear that
all human beings go all the way back to the eight people who
were on the ark during the floodof Noah.
And those eight people trace allthe way back to Adam and Eve.
So really all human beings in various very distant ways are

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related. So this whole idea that there's
different races of human beings and you can tell that they're
different because of their skin color.
Biblically speaking, that's donebecause we all have the same
ancestors ultimately. And so therefore, skin color
should not be an issue in the biblical worldview, especially

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if you look at passages like Galatians 326 through 29 where
it says that there's neither Jewnor Gentile in Christ will then
race shouldn't be an issue at all with churches other than to
condemn people who are bigoted against others on the basis of
skin color. And that injustice is another

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term that's really tricky because the term injustice means
different things to different people, you know, like social
justice issues. Yeah, that stuff gets really
ugly really quick, because a lotof that stuff is actually
unjust. And there's a lot of churches
that got on board of social justice stuff, and it takes them

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down a really dark path and it gets really ugly for them in the
long run. But if you're dealing with
actual issues of injustice, the role of the church in addressing
that is just to preach the word on what it says about unjust
things. Now, if you read the Bible, you
know that unjust things happen all the time, and you know that

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even if it never gets addressed or dealt with in this life, you
know that God is going to deal with it in the judgment in the
next life. So the evil in the world that
goes on, the injustice will be dealt with by God at one point
or another in his own timing andhis own will.
And the church needs to make that known.

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So that's how the church can address the issue of injustice.
Now #15 and I think #15 is probably going to be our last
question here for the live stream.
Let me go ahead and put it back.I just didn't want to give the

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inception look on the screen forpeople.
All right, so question 15 is howdo you interpret the Book of
Revelation and how does it influence your view of the
future? Now, Revelation is a tricky book
to interpret in some ways, but it's not so tricky in other

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ways. For example, when it comes to
the issue of the Great White Throne Judgment, Revelation is
actually pretty clear because there are multiple passages in
the Book of Revelation, as well as Jesus saying it in the
Gospels that talk about people experiencing a second death.

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And then you get into Revelation, I believe it's
chapter 20 or 21 or it talks about the Great White Throne
Judgment, and it talks about howwhen Satan and his demons are
thrown into the Lake of Fire, they experience eternal
conscious torment. But when human beings whose
names are not found in the Book of Life are tossed into the Lake

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of fire, they experience the second death.
Those are two very different things that happen to different
groups of people that are throwninto the Lake of fire.
And so Revelation, I believe, isteaching pretty clearly that
human beings who are tossed intothe Lake of fire, their souls
are killed and they no longer exist.

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And the reason why I think that is because if the idea of hell
being eternal conscious torment is true, then what ultimately
happens is nobody's souls are ever actually killed, and there
is no second death because that soul is being tortured and kept
alive for eternity. And yet when you read the Bible,

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the only people being tortured eternally and consciously are
Satan and his demons. It's very explicit in the Book
of Revelation. And so the hell being eternal
conscious torment, people have areal problem biblically on their
hands, because the passage they appeal to to justify their

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belief only talks about it happening to Satan and his
demons and then it later on it explicitly says that everyone
else who's a human being presumably experiences a second
death. Which a second death does not
mean eternal conscious torment, because death cannot be eternal.

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Death is the end. So like when we die physically,
our physical bodies come to an end, they rot, they fade away,
but our souls are still alive because we are more than just
our bodies. We have souls too.
So when it comes to our afterlife, when it comes to the

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great, the great White Throne judgment and being thrown to the
lake of fire, and second death, second death, biblically
speaking, has to mean that our souls are killed and we no
longer exist. It has to mean that.
So those are things that Revelation is clear on.
But then there's other things it's not exactly clear on
necessarily with regard to trumpet judgments and with

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regard to exactly what things will look like in terms of the
world right before Jesus comes back or what everything will
look like when all the, all the,what's it called?
Not the trumpet judgments when all the seals are going down.

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Because the Bible says when it says about the seals, but it
doesn't give great detail. It's up to interpretation.
So there's stuff in Revelation that's up to interpretation that
is not clear because of just howit's written.
But Revelation definitely influences my view the future

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because it tells me that ultimately the devil is going to
get complete control of this world through the beast system,
the prison planet, and for a short period of time he's going
to have his way. Christians are going to be
killed, but then Jesus will comeback and the trumpet judgments
will happen after the Christianshave been raptured off.

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And when those trumpet judgmentsare done, Jesus comes back on
his White Horse with his army ofangels.
They destroy the beast system. They destroy and conquer the
Antichrist's army. And then the 1000 years of peace
happens. And then Satan and his demons
and all of the enemies of God are allowed to be free, and they

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have one last rebellion and thatgets crushed.
And then? They are destroyed and defeated
forever. And then we have eternity where
those whose names are found in the Book of Life spend eternity
of God the Father and Jesus and the Holy Spirit in the Kingdom
of God. Those whose names aren't found
in the Book of Life, they cease to exist all together.

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Satan and his demons suffer eternal conscious torment in the
lake of fire. And that's it.
Because that's the end game. That's how it's all going to
end. That gives me a lot of comfort
as things get worse and worse inour world today, especially when
it comes to all the satanic evilstuff that happens.

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But anyway, we're going to stop there because we're right at the
2 hour mark and I definitely need to go bake some chicken for
myself and have dinner. But I appreciate all of you guys
who tuned in and watched the stream.
I appreciate those who watched on Brett's YouTube channel, who
watched on my YouTube channel, and those who watched on Rumble,

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and those of you who weren't watching us live, but you're
watching us after the fact. I appreciate all of you if you
got to this point in the live stream.
And so with that being said, love you all.
Hope to see you in the next video or the next live stream
and I look forward to seeing theother questions on this post

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that we were going through. Have a good night everybody.
God bless.

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