ProverbsGuys Ministries | Interview with Mr. Brett Keane | GodTVRADIO

ProverbsGuys Ministries | Interview with Mr. Brett Keane | GodTVRADIO

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None. None.

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None. All right, welcome to Proverbs

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Guys Ministries. I am one of your hosts, Steven
Andrew. I'm glad you guys came out for
this really cool episode. I'm getting to interview a very
good friend of mine and I want to just, I'm about to play a
song for you guys from his album.
It's a really cool song. I listen to it a couple times.
I think you guys will dig it too.

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And that's going to be his bat call to come on to the show.
But I wanted to just give you a brief history first of Proverbs
Guy's ministries. We, as some of you know who have
been with us for a long time, we're not always Proverbs Guy's
ministries. We didn't always have 9 hosts
with 9 different shows going on through the week.

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Originally it was just Stephen Andrew with Proverbs 2717 and I
was very new to YouTube and I was very bad at YouTube and none
of the major Christians in my life who were on YouTube had a
lot of time to spend with me. So they taught me virtually

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nothing, whereas Mr. Brett Kane took me under his wing and
taught me virtually everything Iever knew about YouTube and
podcasting and running live openpanels, the entire lion's dens
that we have that we do or we encourage the atheist to come

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engage with us all modeled afterthe way Brett Kane did his show.
So I just want to give a specialthanks to Brett for taking that
time and showing me what I know and allowing me to be able to
grow into what Proverbs Guys Ministries is today.

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I can honestly say if it wasn't for Brett's help early on,
Proverbs guys would not look anything like it does today.
It would be a really poor production.
So thank you Brett. I want to go ahead and play this
song that he produced. It's one of the songs on his

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album. So I want you guys to go check
out all the songs on the album. I have it posted in the
description of this interview episode.
But without further ado, I am going to step backstage and play
this song and I hope you guys all really enjoy it.

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I watch you walk these empty halls, talking to the barren
walls. You wear the paper crown, so
proud, speaking to an absent crowd.
Your eyes don't see what's real anymore.

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Drifting further from the shore.I see you slipping through my
head, making castles in the sand.
You're dancing with the morning lights, chasing visions in the
night. La La.

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You tell me stories of your throne, of kingdoms that you
rule alone, but all I see is an empty chair and bitter words
that fill the air. I see you slipping through my

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head, making castles in the sand.
You're dancing with the morning light, chasing visions in the
night. Can't you hear me calling out?
Can't you see beyond your doubt everything you think you are?

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It's just a lie you've always known.

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See you slipping through my hands, making castles in the
sand. You're dancing with the morning
light, chasing vision in the night.
Oh, fading away. The crowd is falling from your
head. The Kingdom.

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It's only in your head. I wish that you could
understand. It's time to leave.
The snow will land. All right, was that not an

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awesome song or what? Hey, what you up to mate?
Hey, how have you been, Mr. Brett Keane?
Been doing pretty good, tired today, had to do a lot of work
on graphic design and dealing with some nonsense, but besides
that I'm happy to be here. What's up?

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Are you are you utilizing Canva?Canva.
Canva. It is an all in one multi
purpose tool and there's a free version that you can try out.
You really need to give it a go I'll.
Have to check it out. Some kind of I think I heard of
something, some kind of paint program.

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Well, it does a lot more than that.
It's it's a fascinating multi tool, but you can even do video
editing on it, but we'll check that out later.
First of all, let's dig into your music, man.
So you have 20 songs posted on the GOD TV Radio YouTube
channel. How many songs do you have on

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all the albums? What?
How much music's out there? Well, if you check out my
website, which is that one of the first links that you put in
your description, there's almostI'd say practically 40 tracks.
There's the other 20 are waitingto be put on CD.
The one you just heard is recently on a jewel case CD and

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a sleeve case. Oh OK, I'm pulling this up now
so we can share it with the audience and help plug it.
Is this the correct link you were talking about?
Yeah. That's all right.
Let me share this, all right, OK, so this is where you can buy

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the CD, guys. You can buy it on Amazon.
You can buy the shirts. YouTube channel, all the links
here posted. We'll accept all a lot of
albums. Now, music's not new to you
though, Brett, right? You've been doing music for
what, 15 years or more? I was doing music a lot whenever

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I was a younger man. And then I slowed down, got out
of it for a little bit, started writing books and such.
I even got one of my books selling on the side as well.
And yeah, and took a took a break from it, got tired of
dealing with musicians. And then is that when you
decided to jump into the world of YouTube with all their mini

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trolls? Yeah, yeah.
It was actually a pretty rough time in the moment whenever I
decided to start up YouTube. But I I used to use like Yahoo
Chat and AOL. I can't believe that stuff even
existed as long as it did. All right.

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Well, just for some of the people who are going to watch
this and they don't maybe know who Brett Keene is.
Brett Keene was one of the most influential atheists on all of
YouTube. Before there was ever an Aaron
Raw, it was Brett Keene. Brett Keene was the atheist
vindicator and Brett Keene had aroad to Damascus type of

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experience and is very much trying to live for the Lord now.
So we won over one of the biggest tools that Satan ever
had on YouTube and we are extremely underutilizing him.
What else would you go over, Brett?
Well, yeah, yeah, I was saying that because I was doing those

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chats and talking to religious folks and non believers.
A lot of people said, Brett, yougot a pretty cool voice and
personality, why don't you do YouTube?
And I remember checking out YouTube 20 years ago.
It was just cat videos and gerbils on wheels that I was
like, why do they want me to do this thing for?
But I did. It blew up pretty quickly.

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Well, my only competition was kittens and puppies, so you
know, what are you going to? Do that's true and you kind of
laid the pavement for all of YouTube podcast shows today.
All the live panels that you seeare almost brainchildren of the
way you did your show the GOD TVRadio.
Is that right? Yeah, yeah, a lot of non

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believers even nowadays, I've noticed because every once in a
while I get bored and feel like a masochist and go visit an
atheist channel, see what they're saying.
And they're not saying anything new or interesting that I
haven't already said. And better, you know, so it, it
doesn't impress me. Right.
Well, OK. And with YouTube, they seem to

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have a pattern. Anytime somebody goes young
Earth creation or even Christianperiod, they definitely start
shadow banding your channel. It's happened to my channel.
It's happened to multiple channels for you.
Are you afraid at all that that will happen to this channel
again? As far as I know, it could have
already happened the moment I, you know, restarted up the

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YouTube channel. I don't know.
I know a lot of Christian Youtubers who are making great
looking videos. And I mean, some of the imagery
that you use and thumbnails, you're really working hard to
make it right. And I think that you should be a
lot farther on YouTube than whatyou are.
You should be like 10,000 Subs in with the kind of time you put

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into your work here. So something's wrong.
Yeah. Well, I mean, you had the same
experience, the channel you had when I met you, I think it was
over 10,000, right? Yeah, yeah, I've went through a
lot of channels. Yeah, for some reason, atheists
can sit up there and do nasty, weird stuff on video.

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But if a religious person gets alittle feisty, uh oh.
OK. Yep, exactly.
All right. So is YouTube your main platform
right now or is it more or less a backup platform for you?
Where are you putting most of your aches?
Well, I'm mostly dealing with the website and everything and
working on that and the music and YouTube's.

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This I, I think one of the reasons why I even returned as I
like some of the people aren't here.
I dig folks like you and being able to talk to people on social
media. But I got to be honest, as far
as the religion versus atheist thing, that that started getting
boring because like I said, theysay the same thing over and over
like a scripted robot. We can't get them to come on our

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show anymore. I don't know if they're just
totally repulsed by us or if they got tired of getting kicked
around, but you know, besides like 3 trolls who are
permanently banned, we cannot. I don't think we could pay an
atheist to come on our show. Well, I wouldn't doubt it.
It's atheists aren't the same way they used to be a long time

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ago. They were more, how shall I say,
beholden I, I don't know if it'sright to say this on the screen
and stuff, but they, they seem to have more courage and guts
back in the day. And it was maybe because there
were people like me around thereto, you know, give them some
good arguments or something. But nowadays they're weak.

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Yay, yes, yes, yes, blah blah. Weak is the best way to describe
it. But not as weak, Brett as their
arguments for evolution, right? Yep.
You know, you, you were saying earlier that a link got
reverted. I actually went and checked out
that person's channel and it's an atheist and he's got the same

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sob story. You know, something sad
happened. So he had a sad so therefore God
doesn't exist argument. You've heard that a million
times. It's always the same deal.
It's never for scientific reasons.
Well, yeah, it that's another reason why we say, and
rightfully so, that evolution and that type of science, the

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pseudoscience, it is a belief, it is a religion.
It goes hand in hand. But now.
I don't know if you grabbed a copy of this off of my TikTok
but I still have that clip of you when you were debating that
atheist something. I'm I'm not going to advertise
him but you said so. You think you're a damn banana?

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Yeah, I know the one you're talking about.
You added to it, right? Well, I got the clip.
If you don't have a copy of it, people would laugh if they seen
that. Yeah, send that over to me, man.
I'll share it. I'll share it on my socials.
You have a live show coming up tomorrow, right?
Yeah. What are you going to do for the

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trolls? Are you just going to put them
backstage and kind of vet them and see what they're about
before you put them on? Well, tell you the truth, I can
understand why you're using EV mucks now.
I went over to stream yards likeI usually used and it says I can
do live streaming up to two hours and that's it per month.

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And I looked at the price plan and I was like 50 bucks.
What the hell? These people become burglars.
Look, it got bad Brett. We I was still using Stream
Yard, but we got up to 8 hosts and when we got up to 8 hosts,
the plan on Stream Yard would have cost us $300.00 a month.
The plan I have right now on Evemux is only costing me $100 a

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month, but even that is a steep bill.
I hear you, I don't understand why they think that it's worth
that much money and I'm surprised Google hasn't went
ahead and just bought the thing already and made it into their
new Google plus or Google subtraction, whatever stupid
symbols you want to put behind it.

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Now, do you have a theme or an idea, a general direction you're
wanting your show to go tomorrow?
Well, usually I try to keep things open for people to come
in and have discussions and all that.
I know it's probably an intelligent idea to come up with
some topics, but I figure while I'm waiting there's plenty of
things going on. Been watching the news a lot and

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Oh my goodness, I could go on all day about politics.
I could go on all day about spirituality.
I mean, you name it, while I'm waiting for people to come in
and, you know, throw some questions at me.
You you've been pretty busy since we talked last.
You've got a slew of music out. You're working on all your

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different social media platforms.
I've been pretty busy too. I I produced a documentary on
Kent Hovind. Have you seen that yet?
No, I haven't. How long is it?
So it's 5 episodes that are about 40 minutes long each.
So it's kind of set as a Netflixseries type of documentary and

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you can find it at the unmaskingKent Hovind YouTube channel.
So go check that out When? You have Am I able to get it on
CD or anything? Yeah, yeah.
If you go through the Doctor Dino website, it's listed at the
store. You can get a DVD copy of it.
Oh, that's awesome then. Yep, but it's also available on

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YouTube so you can check it out while you're waiting.
But good stuff. Now, what are your plans for the
near future, Brett? Well, still working on the music
and also I've been working on a a book about my life and so far
I've gotten like, I don't know, to the point where I'm like 80%
done with it, but it's kind of hard to finish the 20% of life

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when I'm still actually living. Yeah.
I mean, that's a good point. So are you saying pretty much
you're done up to right now current events?
Yeah, I'm, I'm pretty much to that point, but there's a
concern about releasing it because I talk about a lot of

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family members and actually mention names and all that.
And some of my family members, they ain't passed the idea of a
lawsuit. Well, why don't you just change
some of the names? Well, it'd be kind of hard
because even if I change something to, you know, this
person's name is Zipper or whatever, they're going to know

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who I'm talking about. And plus, it's Brett Keene
writing Brett Keene's life story, right?
OK, but what's wrong with that? Well, even if they didn't want
to sue me, there's going to be family members popping around
the door wanting whoops. And that's you understand.
No, I I get that. All right.
So it's pretty much a waiting game.

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Are you waiting for some people to die?
And if so, as morbid as it is, do you think they'll outlast
you? Well, some of the people are
already gone in life, unfortunately, sadly for them,
but there are there are a couplepeople left where they they got
roasted pretty hard in the butt.OK, and this is not your first

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book. You also have the afterlife
simulation, right? Yeah, the other stuff is
fantasy, sci-fi, that kind of stuff.
And one of my first novels was ahorror novel.
This is actually based upon, youknow, an actual person meet.
True. Yeah, I guess it would be hard
to write a book about your own life and to be totally

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vulnerable and completely honestabout all the details, you know,
because often we'd like to keep those skeletons in the closet.
So how much scar have you, you know, exposed during this
process? Oh.
I, I put all of my stuff out there and all that.
That's another thing. I know that if I released my
book, there'd probably be like tons of documentaries made about

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me. So it's that's another thing
too, to concern. Truth matters out here says I
can't wait to read Brett's biography.
Is it short? I wish.
No. The thing at this point is
around 456 pages. And by the way, I did give you a
wrench, Brett, so if you see anytrolls out there that I'm

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missing, feel free to block them.
I don't see anybody cause any trouble out there.
You got all the nice people on your channel.
Oh, it took a lot of work to getrid of the certain Canadians and
some various others. Oh, Canadians, them and
Liberals. What are you going to do with
them? How come we haven't bought their

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country already and ran that place right?
Well, you know, I gave you credit at the beginning of the
show for teaching so much about podcasting and running live
panels. And all of that's true.
But I didn't give you the discredit for some of the trolls
I inherited from from your platforms.
They found me and they stuck like glue.

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Well, unfortunately that is whatthey do.
I've always warned people beforeI go on shows or podcasts, I
say, look, if I come over here, you're going to get, you might
make a few friends and all that,but you're also going to run
into a lot of turd burglars and unfortunately you have
experienced that. Yay.
Oh, I've been bombed and everything.

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Yeah, I have been like fully christened in the YouTube
community. What do you plan to do?
Are you going to keep doing someshows?
You got any interesting things coming up?
Yeah, so we have a biblical archaeologist coming up, and
then we have a big interview with the family that produces a

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line of Christian movies, the movie Courageous and Fireproof.
In that series, we're going to be interviewing those producers.
So we've got some big things lined up, but right now it's
more about developing our website and we're really trying
to push our our alternative platform Rumble.

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So I think that's going to be our future Rumble, TikTok and X
because let's be honest, YouTubeis not Christian friendly.
Well, I'll tell you what, the next time you run into some non
believer debaters and they claimup and down that there's no
evidence, tell them. Well, the abundance of evidence

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we have for the Bible and geology and the figures in the
Bible compared to you claiming that we come from rocks is quite
overwhelming. You know you can say that.
You know, you said earlier that you were tired of the whole
evolution versus creation argument, and I could understand
why you took that battle on fromboth sides for a really long

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time. But you had some of the classic
arguments, man, almost on the same scale as as Kent Hovind,
whereas you would spin it on them.
I remember your famous 1 the snot on a rock and explain the
variables in the environment like.
Great questions man. Well, it's, it's not so much

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having an issue talking about evolution or science or anything
like that. I, I admire science.
I think that we both have a great deal of admiration.
I know Kent Hovind loves scienceas well.
And he especially uses that the,you know, whip the uneducated
out there, which I admire and respect as well.
The issue is, is the type of people we're talking to.

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We get these folks that come in and they're narcissistic and
they act like they know everything, but it only takes 5
minutes to realize they didn't even make it to high school, you
know what I mean? Yeah, actually I do.
It's a lot of YouTube professors.
They've watched a lot of YouTubevideos and they've learned to
parrot the information on the YouTube videos, and they will

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continue propagating it further as science, knowing that we have
no observable, testable evidencefor any of their claims.
Oh look at that out there missing mods.
Those were awesome and that makes me flush.
Yeah, there's been nothing really but good, favorable stuff

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that I see out in the comments section, which I'm glad we have
nine people watching. I'm not going to open up the
panel because I guess last time I let somebody in that was
trolling, so I don't want to make a mistake of doing that
again. Otherwise, I'd open up the panel
and let people ask you some questions.

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Well, I don't know. If you start doing that then
other people start bugging you. I am paying attention to the
comments if anyone. Everybody's been saying nice
things about both of us the whole time, almost making me
blush over here. But if anybody has any questions
I'll be more than happy to answer.
Oh, you know what? I'm really glad that you and

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TTORI guess it looks like you guys have made-up.
Yeah, me and him had one of the same type of problems that you
and I ran into a while back where you brought somebody in,
they decided to take over your show.
Well, he did the same thing. And I told him before we went in
there, I said, look, I'm thinking about quitting YouTube

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for a year or two and getting out of here.
And he's like, oh, that's, that's it's rough.
And I said this whole politics, it was right before Trump was
getting in and I was really concerned the election was going
to get screwed over. And I was just stressed out.
And I said, man, I just want to chill.
I want to hang out with my friends and have a good time.

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I don't want any argument or fighting.
Within 5 minutes he had some wild feral animal up in there
screaming and yelling directly at me.
I was like, OK, I'm out. Yeah, and what blows my mind
about it, Brett, is if I quit YouTube tomorrow and never came
back, my name would be totally forgotten within a couple of

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years if it took that long. But you, on the other hand,
you've quit YouTube multiple times.
And just up to the other day, I was scrolling through YouTube
and for some reason it was advertising the Drunken
Peasants. And they are still obsessed with
you. Like what makes you so special?
Well, it's weird, isn't it, how people, they make video saying

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that you're, they're telling youthat your garbage is a person
and you're irrelevant and all this.
And it's like, well, if I'm irrelevant, what the hell you
making a video for? You know somebody's actually
garbage and not worth your time,Then why spend an hour or two
talking about a person That's dumb?

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Well, yeah, it it seems like it's obsession that or as I've
accused others of doing with ourchannel, they don't produce any
good content. So we are the content.
Yeah, that's exactly the way a lot of these podcasts do it.
They play other people's contentand then talk.
Trash me and you could do that, Steven.

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We can put some eyes, video up, mute them so we can't actually
hear what they're saying, and call them names all day.
That seems to help the atheist. I mean, I'm pretty sure that
Atheist Junior is making a wholeliving out of doing that against
Kent Hovind. Like his entire channel is
nothing about declaring war on Kent Hovind's legacy.

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Well, you do realize that no matter what Junior does, Kent
Hovind has already imprinted himself from the universe many
years before that guy got out ofdiapers.
So he can try as he might, but it ain't going to do nothing.
Even with all, even with Kent's flaws and stuff, he's a way
better person than that Junior ever could be.

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Oh, by the way, that's the banana guy that you're talking
about. Oh, that was him.
You're right. Yeah.
Man, I wish you would. I wish you would make a trip to
Noah's Ark in Kentucky with us. We're trying to get a bunch of
creationists to go there and protest the atheist protest, and
Atheist Junior is one of many people you know that'll be

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there, and I can't wait to be able to engage him in debate
face to face. That'd be difficult for me, you
know, My patience levels very low.
Have a hard time not having flashbacks of WWE wrestling?
But it would be really funny because Aaron Raw is going to be
there too, and he would almost have to pay you homage because

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if it wasn't for you, he would be a nobody.
He basically mimicked your everymove to get where he is.
I ain't doing a very good job ofit.
The Gothic Fabio is what I referto him as, but he's the only
poster child they have right now.
Mark Reed has fallen off. Grayson base theories fallen

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off. All the big ones are falling
off. Grayson took off.
He seemed like he had a little bit more charisma than the usual
baboon. What happened to him?
Well because he came to dinosauradventure land on a visit and
said nice things while he was here and then as soon as he left

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he did a trash talking video basically calling it a cult.
And I guess even atheists have some sort of moral code because
nobody thought it was in good taste.
Oh so he went there and while hewas in front of Kent he treated
him with love and respect but then he comes back and turn
video runs his mouth. Typical daily atheist.

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Yep. Yes.
However, there are exceptions tothe rule.
For instance, Jackson Rowe. I've met him a couple times at
Dinosaur Adventureland and he's a salt of the earth kind of guy.
Really is. Why you say that?
He's a really respectable guy. He's been here multiple times.

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And even though he, you know, holds to the belief of
evolution, he's open to being shown evidence.
And even if he disagrees with you, he's just a generally
sincere nice guy. Are you talking about a non
believer or Yeah. Yeah, he's an atheist.
He's met an atheist that knows how to listen, have a

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conversation. What kind of miracles are you
weaving on me? Not only that, ma'am, but he
loves this place. He comes here and visits like,
you know, once every couple of years, you know, it might do you
some good to come visit. I Kent has repeatedly asked me
in the past to come down there. Unfortunately, although I've

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gotten a little bit better with this, I still have the
agoraphobia issue. Yeah.
I've gotten a lot better at it though and my wife from time to
time will actually Take Me Out on a highway and I try to adapt
to it, but I do from time to time have the anxiety attack so
I got to be careful with that. If there were back roads all the

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way there, that would work. I mean, you wouldn't be leaving
the South, you would just be driving deeper into the South.
So yeah, I think we could find aroute that was all back roads
and maybe we could find some kind of van where we could black
out the windows and set you up with a computer and mobile Wi-Fi
in the back. I don't know, man.

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I've seen those videos of those mountain believers saying people
get put in cans and buried on the compound and all that.
I don't know. You know, The thing is, is I've
been here so many times and I'venever come across any of the
bizarre things that are claimed to have been here.
Well, I hear you there. I've seen a lot of videos of the

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place and also seen videos wherepeople visited and it looks
very, very peaceful and beautiful and all that.
So I don't know, I don't know where people get that.
Maybe it's at night time everybody turns into vampires or
something. Well, we do have an atheist
who's commenting, so we'll go ahead and give it some shout

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out. It's Zachary and we are not all
jerks, guys just like you. If you start treating us poorly,
it's fair game how is different from your end.
So I'll let Brett answer this first, and then I'll go give it
a whack too. Well I I feel like his comment
was actually fair if he is goingto be decent and respectful

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right off the bat unless he's pushed or something.
That sounds fair. That's the way I am.
I'll be respectful until somebody pushes, so I am.
I'm impressed with that. Usually the atheist starts off
with the insults and initiates the fire.
All right, So I'll have to agreethat that is a fair comment.
However, I would point out one thing just to chew on maybe

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Zachary, and that is the the statistics for atheists who
troll Christian channels versus Christians who troll atheist
channels is way disproportionate.
There are a lot more nasty trolls on your side
unfortunately that that make YouTube heck for us.

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Well, not just for. Not just for questions, but also
for I, I don't know if you've seen a while back, the Satanist
and the atheists were getting into it for a while there for
about a year. It was bad, real bad.
And then the Muslims and atheists have had a lot of
trouble. But I, I don't know what it is.
Most atheists usually try to treat Muslims nice.

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It's probably because they're concerned about the whole
beheading thing. But besides that, they usually
give everybody trouble. All right, yeah, good fairpoint
there. That's an interesting point.
You know, not too long ago you had those shows where you were
engaging with the Satanist. Whatever happened to that?

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Well, the, the guy, he was interesting enough and I thought
Christians would like the opportunity to be on a neutral
show where they could try to bring them over to Christ and
all that and sow seeds. But unfortunately, the head guy
of the Satanic group, he kept onover and over trying to
encourage me to join his, you know, Satanic club or whatever.

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And I said, dude, I am totally for Jesus.
I'm totally for God. I know I come off friendly and
I'm a nice guy and all that, butdon't get it twisted.
I am never going to join your, your satanic shiznit.
I said it in a little bit more rougher way than that, that he
could understand, but he basically stated, well, if

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you're not going to join it, then I don't see why I should
talk to you. And I said, no, wait a minute,
you can't just hang out, talk, chill out.
I got to join your cult in orderfor you to be friendly to me.
That's that's kind of dumb. And he goes, yeah, that's the
way it is. And I said, and here you are
telling Christians that they push things on to people, and

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you're doing that to me. That's not very nice.
True. Yeah.
Well, man, that kind of stinks. But now that you've patched
things up with TTOR, you know he's one of our hosts here.
Now, are you guys going to startcollaborating again together?
Well, he's already emailed me back and forth a couple times

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asking me if he could use some of my music for his church and
all that, and I told him he could use my music for pretty
much anything. And it goes for you as well.
I don't really consider what happened with me and TTOR and
even the incident with you. It was an aggravating day, but
it wasn't something like I turned off my computer and I

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said I hate those shun of the biscuits, I'm never going to
talk to them again kind of thing.
Yeah, I think the reason why TTOR might think that I'm
angrier than what he imagined was because I literally left
YouTube come back for a while. OK, True.
Yeah, well, you should definitely invite him onto your

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live panel. And I'm thinking about coming by
and seeing your live panel show too, because it's been a long
time since I've been on one withyou.
Well, I don't know if we're going to get very many views
over there. Unfortunately.
The channel just started. I've got some subscribers and
all that, but I don't know who'sgoing to join.

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I have the same problem as you where non believers don't want
to come in. They don't want to have a
discussion. If they do come in, they usually
scream the N word or you know, that they want to do something
to my face or something. But I can't seem to get them to
stick around for 5 minutes no matter how nice I am.
Yeah, that does make it hard to do YouTube sometimes.

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Well, we've got a pretty decent following and our traction with
our followers is picking up now,so that's all good.
And our shorts are starting to get attention, so hopefully
we're on an uphill climb. And you know, we can definitely
do more interviews with you and try to help plug all your stuff
and try to get your YouTube going again.

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Well, I'd definitely be interested in working with you.
It is nice to see that there. You've got some nice atheist out
there and definitely a lot of decent religious folks.
Oof. It's hard to find in social
media man Oof. Would you ever consider doing
like a moderated debate? Well, I thought about it in the

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past. I actually contacted that
standing for truth and I thoughthe and I got along pretty good
and I said, hey man, I wouldn't mind debating some of these non
believers and all that. And he goes, oh that's cool man.
I'll get set up sometime. So two months go by, I e-mail
him back. I'm like, hey man, you got

(40:48):
something set up for me. Oh man, I forgot.
I'm sorry. So I pretty much got the the
Blues clues that he wasn't really all that interested.
There was another group out there called Modern Day Debate.
Have you ever heard of that? I have.
Well, they actually reached out to me.
They invited me. So I went over to their channel

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to look at what they got and I noticed that they, how shall I
say, the kind of tag teamed against the Christians.
And I realize, oh, I see how they're doing this, this they're
playing a game here for the atheist.
So I don't. If it's not a neutral
playground, I'm not going to it.OK, so I'll tell you what, I

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have connections with Donnie from Standing for Truth, one of
my favorite YouTube channels on all of YouTube.
So you guys be sure to check outStanding for Truth and he has a
lot of atheists that do debates on his channel.
So I'll reach out to Donnie and ask if he knows any atheists
that would be willing to do a debate with you if you want.

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And I'll moderate it on Proverbsguys.
Well, it's fine with me, but youknow how I am with the way I do
my podcast and all that. I usually like to just try to
because if you say the word debate, it'll scare the hell out
of the atheists. They'll be like, oh, because
they don't like that whole that whole time thing and all this.

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But if you say, look, if you want to come in and have a open
discussion, things like that, more than welcome to come in.
All you got to do is be friendly.
And we have kind of like a back and forth and all this.
That's cool. But just if you say debate, I
guarantee it's going to be rightout the window.
And you want to do more of a one-on-one type of deal, right?

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You don't want to open panel. No, I don't mind there being non
believers in if you know who they are, you've talked to them
before and you feel like they'llbe respectful and friendly, then
I'll go along with what you're saying.
But if you bring in random people and they start screaming
the obscenities and all that, then, well, the patience level

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and the tension deficit goes right out the window.
No, I mean, yeah, that's fair. Well, especially with some of
the ones you've attracted, you've had some of the nastiest
of the nasty. I can't count how many times
you've been pee bombed or how many times people have come on
and called you the N word. Oh yeah, I've seen so much

(43:19):
nudity and stuff, you'd think mychannel should be called
Pornhub. It's horrible.
I mean, I don't know if it's that bad, but it you have been
bombed quite a bit, yeah. Well, not just bombed.
You got to understand that. It's like what we're doing in
here when people are backstage and stream yards.
The other guests can't see what's happening whenever

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they're down below until you putthem up on the screen.
Well, it used to be like that, Iguess, and people would do all
kinds of nasty things down there.
I guess they thought they were being broadcasted.
But that's why I kicked a lot ofpeople as they were showing off
their, you know, their goods. Yeah, well, one of the nastiest

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trolls we ever picked up was AL from Canada.
You know who I'm talking about. And Al from Canada.
Well, his initials are AL and hewas from Canada and he used to
hang around your channel a lot. And L from Canada.

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I don't know, I had a lot of weirdos in my room then.
First name Aiden. Oh that guy, No, I would never
talk to that fellow. He's garbage.
What Grayson did to Ken Toven, that's basically what Aiden did
to me. And I treated him good.
I got him, sent a bunch of moneyto help him not get evicted from

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his home and saved him and his girlfriend's life and the next
thing I know he's trolling me. So screw that guy.
Yeah, you and I are pretty much on the same page brother.
I never helped him out like thator anything.
But no, he just, he became a nasty YouTube troll.
I think he is an actual troll. Well, he, he was friendly at

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first. I almost felt like he was almost
like a bro, you know, there was a, a close conversation going on
there. And this was before the whole,
I'm not going to mention full names, but the Mark thing and
all that stuff with Kent, me andhim are getting along fine.
It seemed like. Well, what happens is is you

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know, I, he starts telling me, man, I'm having it bad.
He says I'm disabled. And I don't know what to do
about money to save my house andall this.
And my girlfriend and I, I basically did an entire video
just for him, a show where I asked for people to donate money
to this guy. I made it clear he's an atheist
and they donated tons of money to him and saved his ass.

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And then he turns around, goes over to Mark's channel and
starts rapping on me. It's hateful.
Yeah. And it's really uncalled for
because it sounds like you were really good to him and you guys
were really close for a long time.
So that was really bizarre. I cared about him, I cared about
him like a little brother and all that.

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When he did that it, it did bring a tear to to my eye and
stuff to see such animosity and disgusting this.
That's why I just can't be around him anymore.
It's not because he's smart and clever and can say some zingers.
It's sad to see somebody that you care about just stick the
blade in. You get what I'm saying?

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Yeah, I do. What about Adam Lord?
Do you still talk to Adam, Lord?I don't know if Adam Laura is
still alive or if he even existsanymore.
I was gone for a while and didn't receive any emails for
him. But I remember the last time I
talked to him, he told me several times he was having some
serious health issues. So I don't know.

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I said, are they really? Are they?
I mean, I'll be talking life or death serious.
And he said yeah. So I haven't seen him since I've
been back. I hope he's OK.
Are you still close with any of the people that you had
relationships with from YouTube back from like 2020?

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I, I don't, it's more of a with a lot of people, it's more of an
association type of thing. It's like they'll talk to you
when you do a live show or whatever, but they're not over
here having BBQ or anything withme.
Yeah, true. Yeah.
But do you think it's all of their faults or do you think

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some of them just caught you on bad days?
I think some people caught me ona bad day, some I I think that
there are times where I make it clear when I'm talking about my
personal life. I deal with severe depression
and I also, some days I'm feeling really good and I can
take on the world, Other days just looking at me wrong.

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The bad move. It is what it is.
I try to warn people about it, especially people I care about.
Yeah. Amen to that.
Well, Brett, do you want to go ahead and as we start wrapping
this up, do you want to plug your channels and tell people
where to find you, where to access you on your website, the

(48:28):
albums you have, albums you're working on?
Go ahead and plug your stuff. All right, well, if you look up
there, you'll see X, you know, Brett Keene show right there.
That's my my Twitter. They call it X now.
And you see yt.com/god TV radio.I only have one single channel

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that is actually me, and that's the official one.
If you see any other channels where they're claiming to be
Brett Keene, it's most likely anatheist who's got some kind of
aquatic fetish. OK.
All right. And as far as the album you have
now, you said you have about 40 singles.

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So are you going to be? Drawing 40 tracks that are up
there, people are able to actually buy digital copied
copies, but I got 20 songs actually on ACD that people can
get nowadays. Now is are all of these songs
coming from the mind of Brett Keene, or are you doing what a

(49:33):
lot of artists are doing now andincorporating the AI into it?
I've used some AI in order to clean up noise and use reduction
and all that. And also AI is very useful if
you perform the music and then you run it through an AI and
say, hey, I want it pumped up, Iwant it stronger.
And sometimes you could actuallytry to see what it would sound

(49:55):
like if it were to change the instrument to something else,
see if it's more clear. I have played around with AI.
It is neat. Need some more advancement
though in technology. Yeah, especially all the free
versions out there right now arepretty still shoddy, but some of
the paid versions that especially Christian YouTube

(50:16):
channels are taking advantage ofis awesome stuff.
See that right there? That's the the CD case and shows
the desk and all that. That's all the imagery.
Just starting one CD alone. It's pretty nice, ain't it?
Yeah, it is. How long do you think it'll be
before AI puts musicians and artists, digital creators out of

(50:39):
business, out of jobs? Well, I think that AI is a is a
danger for humanity. Actually I watched a video
recently where some Asians were working on a robot and they
basically tried to give it feelings and emotion.
Well the thing realized that it was chained around the neck, it

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didn't like it and it began trying to RIP itself from their
thing that was holding it and started swinging at the
scientist. So I think it's a a bad idea.
But it's not just dangerous to put AI into a robot or a machine
where it actually is a physical body to beat you up with.
It's also dangerous because of the thing connects to the

(51:21):
Internet like rock over an X andthe thing starts getting into
all the knowledge bases. It could lock up people's
computers, it could activate weaponry, do a lot of stuff.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I am talking Skynet here.
Terminator Business. That is scary stuff, and that's

(51:41):
my fear too. So that's probably where we're
headed. Well, all right, I want all of
you guys to go show some Love toGOD TV Radio.
Go check out some of Brett's music and support his content.
If you haven't ever heard him talk before, he has the voice of
a podcasting Angel. His voice was made for YouTube

(52:01):
podcasting and that's probably because every YouTube podcaster,
whether they know it or not, came from the inspiration of
Brett King. So even though you may not have
ever heard of him, or maybe you have, he deserves a bigger place
in YouTube history than what he currently got.
Same for you there, guy. Yeah.

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I appreciate it. Well, I'm going to wrap this up,
but I'm going to put us backstage, Brett, and we're
going to play your song again while we're backstage.
And if you look just where you see the screen in the top left
corner, there's a little speaker.
And if you push that, you and I won't hear the music.

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And we can talk backstage while I'm playing this song.
Oh, I see a speaker up there. Sure.

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I watch you walk these empty halls, talking to the barren
walls. You wear the paper crown.
So proud speaking to an absent crowd.

(53:30):
Your eyes don't see what's real anymore.
You're drifting further from theshow.
I see you slipping through my head, making castles in the

(53:51):
sand. You're dancing with the morning
lights, facing fishes in the night.
You tell me stories of your throne of kingdoms that you rule
alone, but all I see is an emptychair and bitter words that fill

(54:17):
the. Air.
I see you slipping through my head, making castles in the
sand. You're dancing with the morning

(54:39):
light, chasing visions in the night.
Can't you hear me calling out? Can't you see beyond your doubt
everything you think you are? It's just a lie you've always
known. See you slipping through my

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hands, making castles in the sand you're dancing with.
Come on in your life Chasing visions in the night.

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The crowd is falling from your head.
The kingdom's only in your head.I wish that you could understand
some leave the snow well and.