Middle school science teacher and basketball coach Nick Lanas joins us to share his journey from the bustling city of Chicago to the heart of the amateur golf scene. Balancing his roles in education and sports, Nick offers a unique perspective on guiding young minds while also stepping up as the new senior tour director. We touch on his experiences transitioning from a B flight player to champion status, highlighting the dedication and passion that have fueled his journey in the highly competitive golf world.
We also dive into the mechanics of building a thriving golf tour, focusing on recognition and community engagement. Celebrating victories, sharing personal stories, and ensuring fair play are pillars of our approach, drawing parallels with coaching fundamentals in sports. The upcoming Southern Icebreakers Tournament and the leadership of the Atlanta Golfweek Amateur Tour are on the horizon, promising to bring together golfers from different walks of life and foster a sense of camaraderie and competitive spirit.
In a heartfelt conversation, we reflect on the memorable experiences and connections formed through golf. From a cherished round of golf with a sheriff deputy from Alabama to recounting a national championship win in football, the power of sports to forge lasting relationships is undeniable. As we prepare for the new year and upcoming tournaments, we embrace the enduring qualities of sportsmanship and community, ready to tackle new challenges and celebrate new achievements.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, Chris and everybody, welcome back to the
Golf Week Amateur Tour, thepodcast and, Chris, you know,
you and I we talked about somebig changes we've got coming for
the podcast for the year and Idon't know about you, but I'm
really super excited to sharethis big news today with
everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Yeah, completely correct.
You know we've been growing.
It's been a great journey andwe want to invite you and your
businesses to join us on thisamazing journey we've been on.
So, as of this episode, youknow, we're officially opening
up sponsorship opportunities forthe podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Chris, exactly.
You know we've got an amazingcommunity of listeners and
members and golfers, you know,that are passionate about
amateur golf and the tour.
So, whether you're a golf brand, a local business or just
somebody who loves the game,this would be a perfect chance
to connect with an engaged andenthusiastic audience.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
And it's not just about reaching our audience.
By partnering with us, yourbrand becomes part of the story
we're building here, one thatcelebrates the players, the
courses and the incredibleenergy of the Golf Week, amtour.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, and we could tailor any sponsorship packages
to meet your goals, you know,whether shout outs on the show,
mentions on social media or evencustom segments where we
highlight your brand.
And, Chris, you know, the firstone I'm thinking about is
Roger's Rules.
Roger needs a sponsor.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
He sure does.
So.
If you're interested inpartnering with us and getting
your name of of your businessout to the amateur golfers
across the country, reach outtoday.
Just email us at d mac that's dm a c at amateur golf tour dot
net yeah, let's team up to makethis podcast and golfing amateur
(01:42):
tour community even stronger.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
And and just remember , you know, the sponsorships is
what allows you know, chris, youand I to travel to the
regionals, to be able to go outand see everybody.
So, you know, we can't wait tohear from you.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, I mean thanks for tuning in and, as always,
keep hitting them straight.
All right, let's go ahead andget the show started.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Let's go.
All right, let's go ahead andget the show started.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Let's go, ladies and gentlemen.
Golf Week Amateur Tour proudlypresents Golf Week Amateur Tour,
the podcast Talking about allthings Golf Week Amateur Tour,
including interviews with tourdirectors, players and course
professionals.
Now here are your hosts TimNewman and El Paso Las Cruces.
Tour directors, players andcourse professionals.
Now here are your hosts, timNewman and El Paso Las Cruces.
Tour director, chris Rocha.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Welcome back everybody.
Hope everybody had a MerryChristmas and you're ready for
the new year.
Chris, it's good to see you,bud.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Likewise, the holidays were great.
Pretty sure they were great foryou as well.
But yeah, the new year'salready here and Jesus, man,
this thing is.
We need to have time to slowdown a little bit, my kids are
about to be in high school, andI don't even know where that
started.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I don't want to upset anybody but Icebreakers this
weekend.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So we're rolling.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, we are rolling, I know, and once you start
traveling, it's going to benonstop.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, so we'll wrap up this episode with how
Icebreaker is going to work withus.
But just essentially, I'llprobably just do the interviews
and record them and go fromthere, because you'll be, you'll
be in in.
Is it above 60 there?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
No, it's still cold, shut up.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
It's still cold.
We're just going to leave it atthat, All right?
Well, let's go ahead and getthis episode started Again.
I hope everybody had a happyMerry Christmas and is looking
forward to a new year.
I think it's only fitting tostart this episode off with a
new senior tour director out ofChicago.
He's been on tour for a goodlong while and I'm glad that we
(04:16):
had somebody step up to take theplace there.
So let's go ahead and welcomein Nick Linas from Chicago.
Nick, welcome to the show, bud,How's it going?
I'm doing great.
I'm more concerned about you.
I've known you for a few years,but I did not know that you
(04:37):
were a middle school teacher.
What's up with that?
I am Bless your heart.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yeah, so I teach middle school science, sixth
grade to be exact.
So, yeah, we just got done withmiddle school basketball, so I
coach eighth grade basketball aswell, and kids had a great
season.
I'm glad it's over with becausethat makes my life real busy.
Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
God bless you, coach.
I mean teaching middle schooland coaching little ones like
that.
I think coaching little ones isfun, but to teach in class, I
don't know how you do it.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know, I guess it's a special.
It takes a special breed ofperson.
You have to be patient, likeobviously right now I'm very
patient with my three-year-old.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Oh, that's awesome, though.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
No, you have to be very patient.
Hey, jess come on.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Sorry, give me one second, don't even worry about
it.
That's not the first time we'vehad kids on the podcast.
It won't be the last.
It won't be the last.
It won't be the last.
I absolutely love it.
I do, but I couldn't teachmiddle school.
There's just no way.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
No way Before you guys were talking about the cold
up here it's cold right now.
I mean negative 13 with thewind chill.
So I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Texas is not.
You don't have to live up there, you don't have to live up
there.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
This is true, this is true, oh gosh.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I just remember and before we get into this, that
when I was up there when we hadCOVID, we were playing at
Harborside and it had been likethe first week of June and it
was windy and it was cold, andit was like hadn't been like the
first week of June and it waswindy and it was cold and it was
rainy and all I had on was Ithink it was this actual shirt
and shorts and we couldn't goinside and it was like 40
(06:35):
degrees, it, miserable.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Yeah, I'm sure I was there, man.
I've been on the regular golfweek tour as a participant for
12, 13 years, so it's been awhile.
I remember times at Harborsideyou had 30, 40 mile per hour
winds in the face on a par three, you know, instead of having a
200 yard hole, I mean it'splaying like 250.
(07:02):
It's amazing.
Just like the Windy City, youknow.
That's why it gets thatnickname.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, actually you were there.
It was June 13th of 2020.
Oh wow, and so it was themiddle of June.
It was miserable, Miserable.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Again, you don't have to live there.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
No, but I was there in shorts and a shirt.
Good god I mean.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
It's amazing, though, how some players can still play
that great under extremeconditions.
I remember two years ago wasprobably the worst conditions
that we've ever experienced.
Um, it was at a place calledThunderhawk Really beautiful.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, it is, I like Thunderhawk yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
And it was probably 40, 50 degrees with rain, and
we're talking early in the year.
You know, here in Chicago wetry to get tournaments in April
or May but sometimes it can bereally, really cold.
We had probably 30 mile perhour winds.
It was raining, and a young kidfrom one of those I think he
was an E3 collegiate golfer andhe went out there in the rain
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and I think he shot.
I mean it was 40 degrees windyrain and he shot like a couple
over par at Thunderhawk.
I was like how, how do youcompete against him?
God bless it, man.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
But I love seeing that stuff.
Like that too, though, becauseyou know, for me, I'd, I'd fold,
I mean I would literally fold,I don't.
I mean, if it's cold, I'm done,I don't play.
If it's raining, I'm notplaying.
I you know, chris lives intexas and I get on him a lot.
He says if it's 60 degrees,it's cold, cold.
Chris likes it between 70 and80 degrees.
That's his sweet spot.
(08:45):
If it's over 80, it's too hot.
Under 70, it's too cold.
But you know, I got to a pointand I don't play much anymore.
But I got to a point where, ifI didn't like the weather, I
just wasn't going to play.
Because I played so much Ididn't have to play.
And no, if it's cold like that,I'm just going to go aside, I'm
(09:07):
going to go aside.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I mean, it's not a matter of it being cold, I just
don't want to be in a jacket allday trying to swing a golf ball
.
That's not a problem, chrisstop lying.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
You might swing better that way.
I don't know.
I've never played golf with you, chris, but you you know,
sometimes it can make our swingsbetter, us amateurs yeah,
you're probably not wrong?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
yeah, because you're.
I mean you, you.
You shorten it up a little bit,probably slow it down a little
bit and and take out some of thesome of the error there.
But uh, but, but you're a,you're a champ flight player.
I'm looking at your index rightnow 2.3.
You know we had Bill on acouple episodes ago.
You know who took over for theregular golf week side also a
(09:53):
champ flight player and I toldhim you know Chicago champ
flight players.
I put them up against some ofthe best across the country.
I mean you guys got a ton ofgood players.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Oh, absolutely.
You mean you guys got a ton ofgood players.
Oh, absolutely.
Um, you know it's funny, Istarted in the B flight.
Back when I started, I mean Iwas still in my twenties.
I was actually probably morephysically fit than I am now.
But just being in golf weekplaying those competitive rounds
and you know, along with peoplethat you actually enjoy playing
golf with as well, I feel likeit's just um, it really just
(10:26):
steps your game up a little bit.
You're in more competitiverounds, um, and I think, to be
honest, starting in the B flightand going up to champ flight
just over the years it'sactually helped me in like
amateur events outside of golfweek as well.
Yeah, um, I played in theIllinois open two years and just
(10:46):
quality qualifying for that wasone of my goals and it's just
like the best amateurs and prosin the state of Illinois.
But I mean you don't get likePGA tour professionals but you
got guys on there who play PGAtour Latin America webcom events
.
Um, I know there was one year.
Uh, what's his name?
Nick hardy.
(11:06):
Uh played over at.
He played at u of I.
Um, they have a greatcollegiate golf program.
Um, he played in the illinoisopen in place third.
And then this same guy, I think, was top 10 in a us open four
or five years later.
So it just shows that, like youknow, on any given weekend if
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you are just hot with the putter, you know things can happen.
And once you get to that tierwhere it's single digit, it's so
hard to get like one stroke offyour handicap.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
And that's one thing I've experienced playing so long
.
But golf week has definitelyhelped me and I enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
So Well, you know, I'm not going to say this number
to, you know, to embarrassanybody, but you know,
understand that this foreverybody out there.
Understand that.
You know, even the best playersdon't have good days.
Your very first round you shota one, or Very first round you
shot a 102.
And your index now, like I said,is a 2.3.
(12:10):
So you know it's about comingin, competing and getting better
and taking on those challenges,and so you know, looking at
your so I'm just looking at yourscores used in your index yeah,
with the 102, that was probablywhat the triple bogey max rule
to in effect, so I'm glad thatit was a 102.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Who knows that?
Could have been a lot worse.
And then you know, years later,this was man, this was probably
2017, maybe two thoughts.
So I know we played an event atCantini.
Then that's, you know, I thinkI was in the eight flight at the
time and then I go and shoot 72under and I shoot like a 32 on
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the back.
I think I had like 12 putts andit's just.
It just goes to show you thatyou know, it's kind of that's.
What makes it fun is becauseyou have that competition every
single weekend or every otherweekend, depending on how often
you have the events.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
And again, when you've got a good champ flight
group right, so it's not justlike one or two guys that you're
going head to head with everyweek.
You've got a bunch of guys andyou've got to bring your A game
every week to really be in themix.
That, to me, is something thatis important to understand, not
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only from the champ flight, butwe talk about the champ flight
in that sense all the time.
But the same thing goes for theA flight, same thing goes for
the B flight and C flight, Dflight.
Understand that when you're inthose other flights, you're
going to have 7, 8, 10 guys thatare going to have good rounds
and you have to have your bestround as well to be able to
(13:58):
compete and win, and it justdrives you.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Let me ask you this because you're taking over as
seniors.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
You don't look like a senior to me, so yeah, I'm only
35, so part of the reason why Idecided seniors would be better
is obviously I'm competitiveand if I know that I'm not
playing on the regular tour, Imean I could play and be a
director.
But I just feel like my focusisn't where it needs to be if I
(14:32):
want to play, at least in thefirst few years, so I can still
have, I can do both, and then Ican just focus just on the
senior tour, which I think issomething like if I'm going to
invest time in it, I don't wantto have to worry about being on
the course and then taking oversome of those responsibilities.
It's not to say that you can'tdo it, you just would need more
(14:55):
help and more support from otherplayers.
But I'm I can't play in seniors, so it's kind of a nice gig in
my eyes yeah, you're absolutelyright.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
It's very difficult to play, to run the event and
play, and play well and run theevent well and do the things
that need to be done.
You know the customer serviceaspect taking care of the things
that have to be taken care ofand play and compete and be
where you want to be.
It's not easy.
Yeah, and it can be done bewhere you want, it's not easy.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Yeah, and it it can be done, but as far as like
competing at like one, likebeing in there at the end.
You know, sometimes one puttyou miss, you know, but you also
have to answer a text messageto something going on on the
course or clubhouse.
Like I can't focus that way,other people might be able to.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I can't, I can't, I can't focus that Other people
might be able to.
I can't, I can't, I couldn't doit.
It is the toughest thing, youwill ever do, trust me.
Yeah, it is tough, but you justdo it and you figure it out.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah, well, you know the good thing is I'm glad you
stepped up to take over theseniors, because you know we
need to get them back to wherethey were a few years ago and
you got pretty much a cleanslate.
So what types of things are youlooking to do this coming year?
Speaker 5 (16:16):
The first year, like right now, I'm just focused on
the schedule.
I think that's priority one.
It's a little bit moredifficult than I thought it was
going to be.
I'll be completely honest.
Um, I think the hardest thingis trying to get the prices down
on certain courses and, youknow, because guys don't want to
pay crazy astronomical prices,so trying to balance that um
(16:41):
sponsors would be nice.
I think in my first year I'mgoing to try and just have a
successful tournament Like inthe past.
What I remember when I reallyenjoyed golf week was, you know,
having trophies at every events, making sure that there's an
announcement at the end of everyround, so like congratulating
the winner, I think, just likeeven just saying their names out
(17:05):
loud, not instead of likehere's your gift card, great job
.
Second place.
Like, just so the other playersthat the let's say, there's 15,
20 other players in that sameflight, you know they can clap
and congratulate.
I think that's a good feeling,that it puts inside the winner.
I also want to I know a lot oftours do this but just posting
pictures on the website of youknow a little snippet of their
(17:30):
story and how their round went.
I think some of those justgetting back to it almost sounds
like the like I tell mybasketball players like the
fundamentals, right, you juststart with the basics, you can
have a successful, successfultour.
I mean, the guys just want togo out there, compete and have
fun and you know, I think thatyou need to get back to that.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
start with the basics to have a successful tour yeah,
you know, I could go, chris,and I'll just say it's funny
because, uh, you mentioned youknow, like the basketball team I
used to coach in Texas.
The high school teams have tohave an off-season travel team,
but their coach can't coach, soI still didn't coach.
(18:15):
You say it all the time, evenat the high school level you've
got to get back to basics.
Basics is what's going to getyou to be a champion, and you
said it perfectly.
If we, as directors, take itback to the basics, um, then
everyone falls in love with itand they come back for more yeah
, and I think you know gettingplayers on the tour.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
You know everyone.
There's guys that don't playevery single tournament right
now, but I just want as manymembers as possible.
Um, I play a lot of casual golfso I think I'm a great person
to be out there.
And just you know, sometimes Iplay golf by myself and I have
tee times and I get paired upwith people.
I have no idea who they are.
They're awesome people.
(18:55):
They hear about the tour.
They never sign up because Iwas just hey, like I play on the
golf week tour.
You should try it.
It's a lot of fun.
But they don't have theinformation.
So I think just having thosebrochures and just the
communication and collaborationwith golfers on an everyday
basis, I think is huge and Ithink I can add and bring people
to the tour just by doing that.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, absolutely.
That's the best, really thebest way to grow the tour is
through that word of mouth andfrom from you and from the
individual members.
You know again whether you're,whether you're at driving range
or whether, like you said,you're out there just playing a
casual round and you're pairedup with people.
You know that's that's how thetour really grows, and for sure
(19:39):
you know.
And the the other piece is isif everybody, if every player
for each tournament, justbrought one person Right, so
you've got a member, I may look,I'm playing in this tournament
next week at Thunderhawk, comewith me and somebody else brings
(19:59):
somebody, once you get themthere, once they're going to be
hooked, that's how it's going togrow.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Absolutely.
I mean, I have people in mindalready Obviously not as many
senior friends, because I'm only35, but, my dad's on the senior
tour and I mean I golf with thesame group of seniors every
sunday with my dad and a fewbuddies, and I'm always telling
them like why don't you guysjoin?
I think now that I'm a directorI'm not saying they don't have
(20:34):
a choice, but it's like whatother.
Like I think some guys getnervous.
I'll be honest you know, theythink of it as highly
competitive and you have casualleagues all the time on
different golf courses and to meI don't like leagues because
(20:57):
you know how sometimes you havean index and then one guy shoots
well, and then it's like, ohwell, they shot a net 61.
Right.
So that's why I've never been afan of leagues.
I feel like this puts you on aneven playing field.
More You're with the guys thathave the same handicap as you If
they play a little bit betterthat day.
There's no discrepancy in thescore.
There's no confusion.
(21:18):
I feel like it's just all rightthere in front of you, which I
love.
The live scoring is huge.
I like the up-to-date scoringthat the guys get now with the
technology we have.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, it's awesome, you know you again, you can see
it.
Indexes are posted online foreverybody to see.
And no, as as we continue tomonitor the indexes and and and
(21:49):
tweak how we are enforcing theindexes, moving people up, I
mean, I just think that'ssomething special that we do,
because we're taking only whatwe record so yeah, I guess
(22:09):
monitoring, I guess, is theright word, um, but I mean it's,
it's just great because it'sjust the tournaments that that
we provide.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
So there's no way of of manipulating the score,
because we're only taking whatyou do.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Right, right.
And so you know, nick, I'm oneof the people that watches these
scores every weekend and haveto, you know, as part of the
committee, help make thosedisqualification decisions.
And so you know, when I seesome of these things that go on,
you know, all over the country,and of these things that go on
(22:46):
all over the country, first off,we understand that the majority
of people that play this gameare honest and good guys.
Every once in a while you'regoing to have somebody who's
going to come in new.
I think they can game thesystem.
Those guys are relatively easyto ferret out pretty quick.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Yeah, I mean the number of rounds, I think is
just the sign of.
I mean it's so obvious, youknow, if you've had a guy on
tour for three, four years, he'snever won.
He's not, you know, changing uphis index or you know,
sandbagging is the term thatthey like to use but, um, you
know, sometimes guys do get not.
(23:32):
They have a great round and youknow, I know that's one thing
that you know.
We have the handbook right andthey have a set handicap and if
they score too low then you knowthere is disqualification.
So I know there's other factorsthat go into it such as like
years on tour and yeah, you knowhow many rounds have they had
(23:55):
and x amount of you know what isit, is it?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
20 rounds now still right I mean 16, 16 is 16, um,
and you know we also look atcourse conditions.
Let's just say that two guys inthe same flight had really good
rounds, or you know there's lowscores across the entire field.
You know the course is justplain easy as opposed to the
(24:19):
course is plain hard, and thenthere's one guy who's really low
and then there's one guy who'sreally low.
I wouldn't say that'snecessarily automatic, but it
does make you kind of raise youreyebrow a little bit and look a
little bit further into it.
But the majority of the guysthat are out here playing honest
handicaps are legit and it'snot like we're playing for
(24:43):
millions of dollars either.
Right, Even though some peoplefeel that way, so do you have
any courses already booked onschedule?
Speaker 5 (24:55):
So I have Thunderhawk .
I don't have any actuallyonline or on the website.
I mean, I'll just share withyou who I've talked to and who
I'm in communication with Umcause until I have something on
paper and I you know, obviouslycontracts, you have to be
careful.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
I don't want to say there's a course and then we
don't get that course.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Yep, so I live in Northern Illinois, I live just
like right on the border.
Um, I'm trying to get coursesSouth, trying to get courses
courses north, trying to spreadit out a little bit, because I
know I'm a chicago senior, uhtour director.
Um, so far I've had a couplegeneva courses, lake geneva.
Um, yeah, I have thunderhawk,which we're good to go on.
(25:37):
That I just have to finalizethings, trying to get a two-day
event with's Crook.
I haven't heard back from them,um, so I mean that would just
make sense because I'm trying toget a two day for that weekend.
Um, shepard's Crook andThunderhawk.
Thunderhawk, we're good to goand that's a great course.
So I'm happy with that one, um,cause normally we do Chicago uh
(26:00):
, chicago golf week andMilwaukee.
Sometimes they do a combo event.
It's a popular course and theguys love it.
I like going back to coursesthat most of the players enjoy.
Playing.
Absolutely.
I have another fun one.
It's actually in Lake Geneva.
(26:20):
It's called Hawksview.
Have you ever played that?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
No.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
They have a couple par threes.
They are like from the backtees, I want to say like the
elevation change.
I don't know if it's like 100,150 feet.
It's insane.
I know from the back tees Ithink it plays like 210 to 20
maybe, or that's the actualyardage, but it plays probably
(26:49):
like 175, 180.
It's that far downhill.
That's awesome.
So it's a fun course to play inthere.
I don't recommend anyone walkthe course, though.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Obviously not with that elevation, no way.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Yeah, you're going up and down steep hills,
especially on those par threes.
That's crazy.
That's crazy, because I knowthere's guys on the golf week I
mean, I don't know about seniorsbecause I'm never around for
seniors, but on the regular tourthere's guys who walk all the
time.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
At that course.
There's maybe one course intown that I'll walk.
Yeah, it really depends coursein town that I'll walk.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Yeah, it really depends.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Maybe yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Well, everything's flat in El.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Paso.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Right.
That's why I walk that onecourse because it's flat and
everything's close by.
Oh, Chris.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I just like giving you a hard time.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I know Well, nick, thank you so much for for for
joining us.
I really do appreciate it.
What one more?
One more question for you.
If you could tell, tell peopleone reason to join the tour,
what would it be?
Speaker 5 (27:59):
I would just say how much fun I have, the camaraderie
, the people you meet um you.
A lot of times guys leave theirhouse.
They're like, hey, I'm going togolf with the guys and
sometimes some of those otherbuddies.
They're going to be busy oneweekend, but if you I mean if
you meet the golf week crew youalways have someone that you can
call, hang out with, say, hey,do you want to hit up 18 holes?
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I mean, there's always someonein my phone I can call just for
that very reason.
So it's not just about thecompetition, it's about the
people you meet.
Um, I am a very competitiveperson at nature so that's why
I've been hooked to it, um, so Ifeel like it's gonna draw a lot
more of those people that havethat competitive edge to them
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that you know are craving that,especially, you know, in your
50s and 60s.
Whatever it is like on thesenior tour, a lot of those guys
can't hit the ball as far asright.
You know some of the youngercrew so they start to feel like
they can't compete, especiallywith the lower indexes.
So then on the senior tour itgives them that opportunity
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where yardages don't matteranymore, so you're not facing
the big hitters all the time.
Everyone, you know, normallyhits the ball the same distance.
So I like how it kind of.
You know you can compete withanyone out here.
It's not, you know, some peoplemight think, oh, tournaments,
it's, it's kind of it's acombination, it's competitive,
but it's kind of a league at thesame time.
(29:24):
It's.
It's something that's just fun,that I enjoy doing and I'm sure
other people would too if theyjoin absolutely absolutely,
absolutely well.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Again, nick, thanks so much for joining us.
I appreciate it and I knowyou're going to do well and, uh,
hopefully we'll see youthroughout the year.
All right, thanks for having me.
All right, let's take a breakfrom the show to hear about
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Speaker 3 (30:03):
Tim Nick.
We wish them the best startingoff this new tour.
I always say all the time Iknow how it is to be a new
director, but especially withthe seniors I'm going to say
this the senior tour, they dohave a lot of fun.
They do have a lot of fun afterthe round.
I've been a young guy trying tohave a senior tour.
(30:24):
It's not easy, but hopefullyhe's able to bring that tour to
one of the best ones we got.
I think he has the capabilityof doing it.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, he does, and I think he's really kind of right
on from his perspective of justbeing a player on the golf week
side and not have to worry aboutdoing those types of things and
, you know, being a tourdirector on the senior side, um,
cause he can just go andcompete and uh, um then take
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care of the seniors the way theyneed to be taken care of.
He's going to do a great job.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
And I mean being able to have that time is is is nice
cause you.
You can then relax, maybe hitthe putting and chipping green
while they're playing for alittle bit, let that pace kind
of build up and then if you haveto go out there and take care
of the pace, then you can.
If not, I would use it at timesfor practice.
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That'd be my practice time,because I've got to be out there
anyways times for practice.
That'd be my practice time,because I've got to be out there
anyways.
But you get to know these guysand hear their stories, their
life stories, because for somereason the seniors like to tell
you everything that they've gonethrough.
And, yeah, it's a good time.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
It is.
And if he can teach middleschool science, sixth grade
science, he'll be fine.
He'll be just fine with theseniors, yeah, he'll be all
right.
And you know the other thingwith seniors it's a completely
different vibe, right?
It's not that they're notcompetitive because they are,
it's just they're a little bitmore laid back competitive, at
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least from my experience right,right, right.
It's a lot different than whathe's probably used to in the
champs like yeah For sure,experience, right, right, right.
It's a lot different than whathe's probably used to in the
champs, like yeah for sure, okay, so well, anyway, I know he's
gonna do well and, um, god blesshim.
And and again, love seeing hiskids.
You know, last episode, lastepisode we had armand's kids in
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and uh, it's great and we're afamily show at times maybe that
that's going to be our new thing.
We've got to have some kidsflash across.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
It's perfectly fine with me.
I'm not upset about it, me too.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Love it, love it, love it.
Well, so let's transition intoour next new tour director.
But he's not really new.
He's been with us for he's beenwith me for a while.
He's been my assistant foreight years, and now we just
kind of made it official andwe'll talk about a few things,
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so let's just go ahead andwelcome Alan.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
Al welcome to the show bud.
Thank you, guys.
Before we get started, I justwant to Al.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Welcome to the show bud.
Thank you guys.
Great Thanks for having me.
Before we get started, I justwant to say a couple words.
You know, you and I met througha mutual connection of Cephas
Franklin.
You know our friend, the DCtour director.
And we met like right after thenational championship in 2016.
And I can't number one thankhim enough for that.
Introduction.
No-transcript, and you've heardme say this over and over again
(33:45):
and I don't just say this, thisis the actual truth.
I really don't do a whole lot.
You know, jen does a lot of thebackroom stuff.
You take care of a lot of stuffon tournament day and my job is
really to walk around, talk toguys, shake hands, give out the
awards and those types of things.
So tour would not be nearly whatit is without you.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
Yeah, I appreciate that.
I appreciate that, tim.
It's more of you know all theguys is coming out enjoying
their day of golf and enjoyingthe game, and when Cephas
brought me in I just had retiredfrom the county DeKalb County
for after 30 years I think.
I was retired about a year orso and Cephas brought me in,
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introduced me to yourself andJen and it's been uphill from
there.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
And I appreciate our relationship and providing golf
here in Atlanta.
Yeah, I was talking to Chrisjust before we had you in.
He said, you know it may bekind of a culture shock.
I said, well, you need to holdon a second.
Al has so much experience inevent management and the things
that he's done in his previouscareer and some of the other
things that he's doing right now.
So why don't you tell everybodywhat you did for DeKalb County
(34:59):
and you know kind of some of theother things that you do with
your football league?
Speaker 7 (35:02):
Yeah, I currently.
I retired from DeKalb in 2014and I headed up all the
athletics there.
Actually, I moved up to deputydirector, but that was a little
on managing more behind the desk.
(35:23):
But I was the athletic andaquatics manager so I ran
day-to-day youth sports, adultsports, senior sports, senior
Olympics the whole nine yards ofany sports that you can name in
dekalb for youth sports and andteens.
So, um, I did that for 17, 18years and went up to deputy and
then did management or budgetsand things of that nature.
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But, uh, retired after 30 yearsand and when I was there, I
started a youth football leaguethat's flourishing right now in
Atlanta.
It's called AYU Atlanta YouthFootball League.
That's doing real well rightnow and they're actual guys with
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teams in Florida all around thecountry that's playing right
now.
That's finished up the footballseason.
We've got some teams in Floridaall around the country that's
playing right now.
That's finished up the footballseason.
But Golf Week has been a joy tome to provide golf for adults
and seniors here in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Go ahead, chris.
No, I was just going to saythat's a lot of work that you've
gotten under your belt, so I'mgonna take my statement back
that I told Tim and uh.
I think, you're gonna be allright where you're gonna be.
But uh, you know, tim, you kindof make me feel bad when you
say you don't do anything outthere because you got everybody
else doing everything.
I need to start getting moreassistance to do the back end
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work and all this other stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Well, you know and Chris, you may not have heard me
say this before, but I'm one ofthe best at getting out of the
things that I don't want to do.
You know, I'm one of the bestat that.
I find other people do all thestuff that I don't want to do,
and one of the things that Imean you talked about this To me
, the best day of the week istournament day, hanging out with
the guys, you know, shakinghands and cutting up and doing
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those types of things.
That's the stuff that I reallylove doing.
You know, giving out the awards, al.
I mean, you've seen us with theawards, especially when we've
got shotguns and all the guyshang out and it's a really big
deal to give out trophies andthe gift cards and those types
of things.
Speaker 7 (37:32):
Yeah, it's about you know when you finish a.
I'm more favorable for shotgunsbecause it brings everybody in
at the same time.
When you're doing just, youknow, first tees and coming off
the first different teetops,it's different than the shotgun.
The shotguns when we can getthose, it's a jewel for us to
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sit around when it finishes up.
You know, guys talking, gettingawards, talking about their
rounds, it's all thatcamaraderie that you have
throughout the day.
Spending four or five hourssupposed to be four hours, but
four or five hours, sometimesfive and a half hours with guys
is a long day and what you doout on the course, you build
relationships and that's whatit's allowed.
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We build a lot of relationshipswith guys that you didn't know
and after five rounds you get toknow them and you see them next
week and week after week after,after eight, nine weeks of golf
season.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
It them and you see them next week and week after
week after, after eight, nineweeks of golf season, it's, it's
, it's, it's really enjoyable.
Yeah, it, it is.
And and again.
You've been around for eightyears, um, and you know you've
seen a little bit of growth thatwe've had in atlanta.
You know when we first started,you know actually when I got
there so I'd been there for twoyears before you came on and the
growth that we've seen sinceyou've been there in the
recruiting, you know we wentfrom I think we had like 80 guys
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, 90 guys, yep, and this year Ithink we finished at 147.
Last year we were at150-something.
That's pretty good growth.
Again, obviously we'd like toget up to the 175 area, but
getting to that number andgetting 60 to 75 guys out for a
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tournament it takes a lot ofwork.
Speaker 7 (39:27):
Hey, we're looking to grow like Tidewater.
We want to be where you openregistration and you got 200
guys waiting, 220, whatever thenumber is and trying to jump to
that level.
So Atlanta, we'll grow andwe'll get there.
Like Tim said, we're 80 to 125,145, 150.
I'm expecting 170, 180.
(39:49):
Hopefully we can get to thatnumber this year and have more
golfers out, and I think we cando that.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah, I think so too.
Just so everybody understandsyou're really going to be the
guy.
You're going to be the point ofcontact in Atlanta.
I'm still going to be around,but you're really going to be
the guy.
I mean, you're going to be thepoint of contact in Atlanta.
I'm still going to be around,but you're really going to be
the point of contact in terms ofall the tournaments, answering
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all the questions and the textmessages and the course stuff
and all that.
There's other things.
So, to our Atlanta members, I'mnot going anywhere, but you're
really going to be the face.
You're going to be the onethat's running around on
tournament day shaking hands andgiving out the award.
Speaker 7 (40:37):
Yeah, we're looking at some different courses or
some semi-private courses thatwe're trying to bring in some
new courses in and get somedifferent looks at play during
this year and I think that withthe members we have reaching out
to their friends and you knowmore friends coming in that they
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have and Atlanta has differentgroups of golfers that play
within golf week so they play.
You know, if we're not playinga weekend, they'll go out and
play in their groups and comeback.
So we're looking to increaseour numbers and increase our
different play.
We have some courses on ourradar that we're trying to put
on our list of schedule for thisupcoming 25 season.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yeah, yeah, we're going to do a combo event with
Alabama and Nashville, which isgoing to be a really good course
.
I don't think they want us toannounce what course that is yet
.
That's going to be a reallygood event.
Yeah, hopefully we're going toget back to to what was the
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place in McCormick it was Terraand Monticello.
Down at Savannah Lakes.
Yeah, savannah Lakes.
Tell you what that place is ahidden gem it is For anybody who
wants to do a two-day.
Come join us down there atSavannah Lakes, the Terra course
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and the Monticello courseHidden Gems.
They treated us really, reallynice there.
Speaker 7 (42:17):
Yeah, corners Augusta Us.
I mean we'll cut you off, butCorners Augusta Us in South
Carolina.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (42:33):
So what other courses are you looking at?
This year we reached out to theUniversity of Georgia, which is
one of the good courses, sowe're trying to you know what
you got another chance.
We have another chance comingup this weekend Texas and
Georgia let's don't go there onthe football side.
You know what happened lasttime I forgot what course we
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were playing and I had to findyou.
I had to find you.
I lost you to him.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
He made sure to tell Jen, your Jen Tim, that he's
looking for me.
Speaker 7 (43:09):
Yeah, but University of Georgia, the Tero course and
we're trying to.
It's a course down in Griffin.
I don't know if you've heard ofSun City, so we've got some
contacts with those.
So it's not definite yet, butwe've got some courses that
we're trying to put on theschedule that we can enjoy.
Golf is our joy is here inAtlanta.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
So of all the courses that you've played being on
Golf Week, oh, let me even askyou this question.
What everybody needs tounderstand.
Okay is Al, you got ahole-in-one at Whistling Straits
.
Speaker 7 (43:49):
Was the hole number 16?
No seven by the ocean.
Tell everybody about that.
Seven.
Had a nine iron on number sevenon the ocean side.
It rained that day.
It snowed, I mean, it rainedwind, sun.
I had three seasons on thathole and I holed out on it.
(44:10):
That's pretty awesome and Ilook for history of somebody
holding out.
I don't know there's no historyof a PGA nobody holding out on
that hold.
Yep.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
And what I was trying to do and I told you this what
I was trying to do was findsomebody who would hold out and
get a flag and have them sign itcongratulating you, who would
hold out and get a flag and havethem sign it congratulating you
.
But there wasn't any.
There wasn't any pg or pjplayers or lpga players that had
done that.
So sorry, bud, you're out ofluck well, I'm alone, I think
(44:41):
I'll take, I'll take golf aloneon that hole so, outside of
whistling straights becausebecause that one doesn't count
what what's been your, yourfavorite course that you've
played on tour, because you'vedone a little bit of traveling
with it as well.
So what's been your favoritecourse?
Speaker 7 (45:00):
uh, I can say Hilton Head.
I like Dillman's courses.
Okay, yeah, I like Dillman'scourses.
(45:22):
They are challenging andenjoyable at the same time.
Hampton Hall let me back upHampton Hall.
I think Chris and I playHampton Hall.
Let me back up Hampton Hall.
I think Chris and I playHampton Hall.
If I'm not mistaken, hamptonHall is a jewel in that.
Hampton Hall is probably thebest on golf week.
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Hampton Hall would be thenumber one.
And then the Jones course.
See Chris is.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
What's Chris at Hampton Hall all the way.
Speaker 7 (45:57):
Hampton Hall is a great course, I would say.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
But see, chris, it's not just me.
I can't really decide which isa favorite course here on the
island.
I mean when you look at it,okay, because I would say I
would agree with you.
Hampton Hall is one of my tops,jones Course is one of my tops.
Country Club of Hilton Head isone of my tops.
I mean, at least for me comingdown here.
Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
Well, no, I was just going to say like, when you for
me, when I get down there, Iwant to have fun, but also not
be, but also not be, but also bechallenged.
Right, I don't want to.
I don't want to have a headacheon every hole, and it seems
like the jones courses give me aheadache on every hole and
hampton hall gives you enoughleeway to have fun and have a
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have a shot, but but still bechallenging at that point
that's's right.
That's right.
I would say I can agree to that,chris, especially on Sunday
pins that they have there for anational championship oh my God,
there's some of those holeswhere it's like a turtle back,
but it's still fun.
It's not like circus, puttingyou know what I mean.
(47:08):
You still got to be challengedat it, but it's not a headache
once you're walking back to yourcart.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yeah, Speaking of headache, okay.
And everybody thinks that.
You know, atlanta is hot allthe time.
What's the weather there likeright now?
Speaker 7 (47:33):
Weather.
Here now it will be 22 degreesin the morning.
In Atlanta it's cold.
I mean, you know, sometimes wecan hit the mess.
It's supposed to warm back uptowards the end of the week, but
we have almost.
We can play golf all the waythrough November sometimes here.
Right, it just depends on howthat belt line goes and how that
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weather jet stream comesthrough here.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
You know we were talking offline and you told us
it's going to be really cold inthe 20s and Chris said well, the
cold stuff isn't really cominghere until next week for us.
We said what's cold and he said60 degrees.
Speaker 7 (48:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
He can't play golf, I'll be living in this hoodie
for the next three months.
Speaker 7 (48:21):
Oh wow, that's 60?
T-shirts.
If I had 60 here, I'd be in at-shirt.
That'd be nice wouldn't it.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
We're out here Even still, though out in Atlanta, I
mean.
So we do get those, you know,those cold temperatures every
once in a while, but even still,it doesn't stay like that for
very long, and my guess is a lotof courses will be packed, even
at 20-something degrees,Because it'll be maybe 20 in the
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morning, but by noontime it'llwarm up to 30, 40 degrees and
it'll be fine.
Speaker 7 (48:54):
Yeah, you can wake up and play early.
It'll be 40-something degrees.
By the time you finish it'll be65, something like 20 degrees
difference.
We just kind of watch theweather and see when we can get
out, based on tee time andfinishing the roundup.
When you finishing the roundup,when you finish roundup, you
can be in 60 to 65 degreeweather.
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So it changes like that.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
It just warms up like that see, I'll put it this way
if, if your professionalfootball team has a dome, I am
playing golf in the winter inyour area, because even they
know it's too cold.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
Yeah, oh man.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Yeah, actually that wouldn't make sense, because
Arizona is also a dome.
Yeah so scratch that I guessthey get through.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
They get through.
Yeah, all right, I want to putyou on the spot here too.
Okay, because we didn't talkabout this question at all.
What's been your most memorableround and you can't say the
whole in one?
Now what's?
Been your most memorable roundon tour because you've been
around for a long time andyou've got the experience of
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playing.
You've got experience of ofplaying, just playing.
You've got experience ofplaying and helping run the
thing.
So all around you've beeninvolved in what's been your
most memorable.
Speaker 7 (50:24):
I think it's about.
I can't remember the guy's name.
He was a sheriff deputy out of.
I have to look back.
I got it written down he was asheriff deputy out of Alabama.
I can't think of this guy'sname right off the top and it
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was from four differentlocations when we played.
But I remember.
I didn't even remember playingthe golf, I just remember having
conversations about him, hiskids, his family.
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We talked more about that andthat foursome than we did golf
itself.
So my memory doesn't serve mecorrectly right here and now.
But that's what Golf Week isabout.
It's about relationships.
Guys you play golf with.
Guys you spend four or fivehours with playing.
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So that's my memorable golfthat I would have in golf week,
besides the guys that I knowevery day that I play with.
That will be one of them.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
Yeah, yeah, I remember that round that you're
talking about, and I think hiswife plays as well, if I'm not
mistaken.
Yes, yes, and because we did.
Speaker 7 (52:03):
He's a sheriff deputy in Alabama.
I cannot think of his name.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
He might have seen his and and send you something
on it, but we talk the wholeround, but but that's but again,
that's really what it's abouttoo, right?
I mean, yeah, you know when andwe and we tell our actually you
specifically tell our membersthat on a regular basis.
Yes, I do.
You know at what.
You know when we're justhanging out talking, you know at
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the end of, at end oftournament round, especially
when we have shotguns, youspecifically say these things to
our players and I think we havea really good culture in
Atlanta that really kind ofembraces that.
Speaker 7 (52:45):
Yeah, and the emphasis put on.
I'll say this all the time, butthe emphasis put on you know
that's not golf, it's nature howthe course is put together.
You have deer running through,you have, and every time we have
, I look for fish.
I'm a fisherman as well as faras golfers.
I look for fish in the ponds,in the lakes.
That's right around us and it'sthe nature of it.
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And then you know, when youplay golf, you've got to
consider the elements, wind, ifit's sunny, if it's rainy, if
it's downwind, upwind, math,calculating All those things are
challenging things.
Elements that you have to putforth when you're playing golf.
It's a mental game as well asenjoying the environment when
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you're playing, and all that.
A lot of people know you'rejust going to hit the ball.
You're playing against thepressure.
No, you're playing againstyourself.
Elements that's put forthExactly.
Well again.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
I'm going to put you on the spot again Because I
think it's important peopleunderstand who we are as tour
directors and tour members.
You won a national championshipin football.
You scored a winning touchdown.
Yep, Tell Chris about that,yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 7 (54:09):
I don't put too much emphasis on that.
You know that was a while ago,1982.
Um, we were short, we hadopportunity.
It was strike year.
The year before that, I thinkthe same year, was a strike in
nfl and we had opportunity toplay on tv about two or three
times and we, uh, the previousyear, in 81, we made it to
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quarterfinals and we lost to, Ithink, maybe Winder, winder
College up in Pennsylvania,somewhere up that area, and then
we 82, we won against maybeWinder in 82, and then we played
(54:52):
against another team in 81.
But, long story short, we didhave an opportunity to win the
championship on national TV.
But it was about that point.
At West Georgia we learned Ilearned myself.
It's about team.
It's about again, it was cold Ithink it was probably like 30
(55:14):
something degrees when we playedthat year.
Uh, but, um, um, winning thatchampionship.
You look back on yourrelationships, not that you want
it, but the relationship thatgot you to that championship.
Right, and that's that's what Itake from experience of winning
championships.
Anything about any guy that'scarrying a ring from a football
(55:35):
or basketball or baseball orwhatever it'll, they'll tell you
.
It's about how we got there.
How we got there, and the samething with golf and people
enjoying golf is that, um,you're winning, you're winning
scores, I mean your scores.
Your scores are what you'rewinning against.
So if I'm shooting 80, 85, ifI'm trying to push my scores
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down, it's against me myself andnot the opponent that you have.
It's a little bit different inteam sports and individual
sports, but West Georgia was agreat experience for me in the
years I was there, 81 to 84, butthat 82 year was very special
and I don't talk much about it,tim, I always bring it up.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
It's important because, again, not only do you
have that history in the sportindustry and business and
running these types of events,but you're also an athlete,
right.
I mean you're not an athletelike you were in 82 or 83, but
you're still an athlete, right.
I mean you still have thosecharacters those qualities,
(56:46):
those things that got you to beat that level.
Speaker 7 (56:52):
Yeah, right now my back wouldn't say that I was
some sort of athlete.
It's telling on you after youplayed the sport and it's
telling on you and it's a totalon you.
But again, I tell everybody,you know, after coming out of an
(57:15):
active sport like that, tennis,golf, hiking, biking,
pickleball now are sports thatyou want to pick up for
long-time sports, for, I guess,the elderly but your later lives
, because that'll keep youactive, keep you moving, keep
you healthy.
All those things are veryimportant in the sport.
(57:37):
In the industry I come from thepark to rec and the sports
administration part you have tokeep your body moving, keep it
energized, keep it healthy, eatthe right foods, those type of
things.
Speaker 1 (57:54):
Made me feel bad about myself.
Speaker 7 (57:55):
I'm sorry, I'm just, I'm, just, you know I'm, I'm
spending facts, though I knowI'm guilty of it sometimes too
well, let me do.
Speaker 1 (58:09):
You wear that detroit Lions hat around town or just
at home.
Speaker 7 (58:12):
No, I wear it all around town.
I got a nephew that's adefensive coordinator for one of
the defensive linebackers forthe Lions and hopefully next
year, depending on where theyend up this year they end up in
the divisional chapters SuperBowl.
Whatever he'll get a defensivecoordinator job he will.
(58:36):
Kelvin Shepard, which is mynephew, will have a job either
for somebody's defensive,because he does a very good job.
I don't brag about much.
I know football.
I don't brag about much but heis a great coach.
He's very personal to thoseguys.
Watch those linebackers howthey fly around and he will be a
(58:57):
.
I'm predicting now, if you lookback two or three years ago,
he'll be an NFL defensecoordinator and someday a head
coach.
They actually did an article onthat Good.
Speaker 1 (59:08):
If you Google it, it's an article that came out.
I mean, he's in a goodsituation right now.
Dan Campbell is a yes, he cameout of nowhere, I think, and his
style, the way he coaches, theway he deals with players, is
kind of the new way to do it,and so he's learning from one of
(59:30):
the best, I think.
Yep.
Speaker 7 (59:31):
Dan Campbell is changing with the best.
I think, yep, dan Campbell ischanging with the times, being
able to relate to those players.
Speaker 1 (59:40):
Well, al, again I can't thank you enough for all
that you've done for us in thetour, looking forward to
continue this year, but we are.
Speaker 2 (59:54):
I'm looking forward to continue this year, but you
can answer that.
Speaker 7 (59:57):
I'm excited.
I'm excited for Atlanta.
I'm excited for the coursesthat we'll play this year.
I'm excited and look forward tothe relationships we'll develop
, the new players that's comingon, the new players that will
sign up with us, and weguarantee you'll have a great
time with us.
I don't know if I'll play muchmyself, but I'm going to make
(01:00:18):
sure that the guys that sign uphave an enjoyable time when they
come and sign up to play withus in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Al, when you do play, I want you to text me and tell
me how fun it was to have toworry while you're playing and
making sure everybody's on timeand everything like that.
Speaker 7 (01:00:37):
Hey bud, hey bud.
I already been through that.
Tim will tell you.
I already been through that.
I did the seniors here.
I would play and try to playand come back and get the scores
together.
It's not pretty.
Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
It's not, but when we win it's it's.
It's not pretty, it's not, butwhen we win, it's like okay,
that was yeah, it was two jobsin one hey, I won one.
Speaker 7 (01:00:56):
I think I did one one time and I had to present a
trophy to myself, so it was.
Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
That's the most awkward part, that's the that's
the part I try to skip is whenit's like all right, and the
beef flight winner is yeah, yeah, we're just gonna skip that one
skip it over.
Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Yeah, I don't even want to talk about it, yeah All
right, my friend, you take careof yourself and we'll talk to
you soon All right, I appreciateit guys.
Speaker 7 (01:01:19):
Thank you All right.
Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Let's take a break from the show to hear about
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I was gonna have a blast withthe atlanta tour, but uh, I mean
, don't get mad when he getsmore members than you've had.
Okay, oh, I'm.
Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
I'm not going to get mad one bit, because I'm pretty
sure that's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
I hope it happens.
Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
I really do.
You know, he's been around longenough to know.
He knows the ins and outs, heknows the guys really well, he
knows the pockets of playersthat are around and you know and
he touched on something reallyimportant you know, in Atlanta
(01:02:16):
we've got what Al and I callpods pods of players.
You know where.
They have their own groups, solike we got 10 or 15 guys that
play with this group, or 10 or15 guys play with that group,
and so forth, and Havana is anarea that has a lot of different
(01:02:37):
groups or leagues all over theplace and that's kind of how
they, that's everywhere.
Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
I mean, we have that too here.
Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
No, chris, this is different, trust me.
Okay, it's yes, mean we havethat too here.
No, no, chris, this is different, trust me.
Okay, yes, other places havethat, but this is number one.
It's way more organized, waymore.
It's bigger.
It's bigger than I mean.
(01:03:10):
It's kind of like its own Idon't even like using this word,
but it's kind of like its ownecosystem within its Okay, okay.
And so what ends up happeningis you get one or two guys that
will go and this is kind of howwe grew it.
One or two guys from, let'sjust say, this pod over here
(01:03:32):
would come and try it out andthey liked it, and they would
then, like I told Nick, bringone or two guys, and then they
would bring one or two guys, andthen they would bring one or
two guys.
And so, and even within thesepods, like some of the guys will
play in like one or twodifferent pods as well, and so
(01:03:56):
it's very well defined and I'mnot going to say clicky at all.
But if you say you know, I knowI'm playing with this group, I
mean the groups have their ownnames, have their own.
It's a pretty big deal.
So he knows the infrastructureof them, he knows the contacts
(01:04:20):
of the guys who run these thingsand we actually have a lot of
those guys that are on the floornow.
But to be able to bring more ofthose guys in, because he's
there and he can focus on doingthat, I'm sure he's going to be
bigger than when I was in chargeof it and it's great.
Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
Good for him.
Yeah, awesome Again being ableto talk to him in depth about
what his plans are and what hesees.
I just can't wait to see whatcomes of this year and be able
to talk about it at the directormeeting next year.
Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
I'm looking forward to seeing that and with some of
the things we've got going on,I'll still be around in Atlanta,
but I won't be able to be doingthe day-to-day and all the
tournament day stuff, just withwhat we're doing with the
podcast and that's just thegrowth.
(01:05:22):
It is what it is.
It's all good things.
It's all good things for thetour and we'll see what happens.
I'll miss the guys day to daybecause, again, horn of the Day
for me is the best day of theweek, so we'll still have it for
regionals.
And best day of the week, sowe'll still have it for
(01:05:43):
regionals and those types ofthings.
Yeah, for sure.
And then when I'm still in town,we Anyway, that's that, so you
know.
You guys have a good Christmas.
Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
We did Good relaxing time.
I mean, you know I still workretail so I only get it for a
couple days.
I don't know, I still got toget back out there for the
return season of it.
Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Yeah, so do you work the day after Christmas?
Oh yeah, oh yeah, god bless youman.
Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
God bless you and people bring their gifts that
they just got to return becausethey don't like them.
It's like.
Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Well, you work at Apple.
Who's returned something thatApple puts?
Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
out.
You would be surprised.
Are you serious?
No, I mean, it's one of thosethings.
I don't like this color.
I want a different color.
It's just crazy.
I can't.
Chris, you should have said no,nobody returns it.
You should have just humor me.
Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
I'm not going to lie about it.
I got to work.
I wish you should have said no,nobody returns it.
You should have just just humorme.
Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
I'm not going to lie about it, I got to work.
Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
I'm not going to lie about it.
You know, I actually need to goto the, to the Apple store.
I need to to change the batteryin what I'm going to pull up it
.
Should it's just old, Just buya new one.
Well, Can't Just?
Trade it in and buy a new one.
Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
That's a conversation for another day Is that what I
should do.
This is a conversation foranother day.
Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Sorry, man, I can't help, but I also have to buy an
iPad, maybe if I didn't likeApple stuff so much.
But I also have to buy an iPad,maybe if I didn't like Apple
stuff so much.
Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Anyway, the Christmas is good.
Kids are happy.
Christmas is good.
Yep, they're happy New year and, yeah, I mean, I'm already
looking forward to it.
So can't wait to see whathappens this year.
Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Well, last episode came out right before Christmas
and we we have a number ofreasons why you and I are going
to hell.
By the way, happy Mother's Day.
We don't want to forget that.
But we did forget one why youand I are going to hell.
By the way, happy Mother's Day.
Yep, we don't want to forgetthat, but we did forget one.
Actually, we forgot two things.
Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
Well, we didn't forget one, because it hasn't
started yet, so we're still good, we just got reminded about it.
Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
It's not over yet.
It started on Christmas andthat's happy Hanukkah.
Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
This is coming before Christmas.
Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
No, this is December 30th oh never mind, I'm going
twice.
So, yeah, we're going to hell,but Jen's birthday was on the
18th and we missed her birthday.
Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
I'm going to hell, Uh it you know, we, we as a
podcast.
Mr you as a person did not knowas a as a person.
Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
I did not.
I did not miss it.
Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
I did, I didn't, we, we, we had a good time.
Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
But you know we we had a good time.
But you know all that she doesfor the tour.
You know the training of thetour directors, this handicap
stuff, all the time that sheputs in so don't even get me
(01:09:19):
started.
And what she puts up with me, Iwould say one of the positives I
guess for Jen is with me notnecessarily being at ornaments
this coming year is that willfree up some time for her.
(01:09:42):
I'm pretty sure Of her notsitting at the registration desk
, check-in desk and all thosetypes of things all day.
Trust me, I know.
Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
If I'm late to her registration, she's going to
have it at nationals.
And I thought I'd get a passand I didn't.
And it was a good thing.
Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
I made it, because, imagine, if I didn't make it
this year how depressing thatwould have been, with how well I
played.
Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
I know you wouldn't be a Directors' Cup winner.
No, no, you wouldn't beDirector's Cup winner.
No.
Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
I mean, I literally rolled up and she had her mic in
her hand ready to doannouncements.
He's on it, man, he's on it.
I'm surprised she didn't callme and yell at me while I was
driving.
Well, she texted me.
Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
She texted me.
She said where's Chris?
Well, first off, I don't know.
I mean where's Chris?
Well, first off, I don't know.
I mean we're not together.
He's not even in the flightthat I'm in.
He didn't call me, you know,check in and said well, he's not
(01:10:55):
here.
He said all he wants is nothere.
I said what do you want from me?
I get it.
Everything's not here.
I don't know what you want fromme.
I mean I was just I get itEverything's.
I get it.
Everything's my fault and I ownit, but I don't know what you
want me to do.
Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
That's a story to tell forever.
Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
She started yelling at me before she even started
yelling.
Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
I.
I heard it when I walked in.
Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
I'll be late next year I think she's going to
request to be at your course.
She probably will.
Anyway, when Jen's atregistration, you better be on
top of it, you better.
Well, no, not really.
I think she's just like thatwith tour directors, the regular
(01:11:43):
members for the most part theregular members.
She's nice, calm, soothingvoice.
We should know better.
Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Yeah, you don't have your $40 for skins, then we'll
take care of it and I do, I do,I'll take care of it, but anyway
.
But yeah, I mean she's, soshe'll have some free time on a
(01:12:14):
couple of sets.
Happy birthday, jen, and happyHanukkah to everybody, everybody
that's out there, and happyMother's Day, yes.
Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
I think we're good so far.
We're good.
Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
I think we got that now.
You know we, we, we get allkinds of of data, you know, with
being the podcast and stuff andI've subscribed to, to
newsletters and this, that andthe other thing, just to kind of
see what's going on out thereand, um, what are the news
(01:12:56):
outlets?
You know they, they send us adaily type of thing and we got
some data on the most searchedgolfers, most Googled golfers
and for the last 20 years thenumber one golfer.
it shouldn't be surprising, buthe's been tight, of course.
(01:13:16):
So Google's been around for 20plus years and he's been longer
than that, yeah, and this yearhe was not the number one Google
golf.
Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
Which I'm not surprised.
I mean, he played what twoevents maybe Didn't get in
trouble?
No car accidents, no caraccidents, a couple surgeries,
yeah, but even then nobody knowsabout those, right.
If anything.
Nobody knows about those, right.
If anything, I'd be surprised,I don't know.
Maybe I would if Charlie wasmore Googled than he was.
Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Well, he wasn't on the list and it doesn't say
professional golfers, it justsays most Googled golfers.
Right, right and honestly, thismust be professional male
golfers, because I mean, if youthink, think about some of the
high profile female golfers andI get, so don't get me wrong
here.
Okay, Nothing, that's RickyFowler.
(01:14:14):
I mean I obviously charismatic,but he did have a great year.
But we're going to say GraysonMurray.
Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
He's still a fan favorite he is.
Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
But what about Nellie Korda?
What about?
I mean, yeah, you know what I'msaying.
I'm sure that maybe I'll lookinto it, but this has.
Oh, actually, nellie Cordy ison the list.
I thought she's number seven.
Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
See, you only went to top five.
Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Well, Ricky was 10.
Can't read.
Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
And Nellie's the only girl on there too.
Yeah, good for her.
Yes, and I'm only.
And we got some live golfers onthere.
Yeah, good for her.
Yeah, it's an anomaly, and wegot some live golfers on there.
Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
But I guess the way to get to number one is to get
arrested.
Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
Yeah, I mean that would get you up there.
I mean, I saw, so I did aHalloween Greenskeeper Revenge
tournament, okay, and it wasencouraged to wear a costume.
It was two-man scramble, so meand one of my members went to
play.
(01:15:30):
We didn't wear a costume, butthe two guys we got paired with
had costumes.
Guess what the costume was?
What was it?
It was a Scheffler orangejumpsuit and a John Daly orange
jumpsuit.
Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Oh my, that's funny, that's funny it was great.
Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
I think they won costume of the year.
I don't care what anybody elsewore.
Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
That's funny.
I mean, you could have wornCould have worn what Could have
worn your costume.
Could have worn what Could haveworn your costume.
Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
Could have worn your costume.
Nah, nah, don't even I knowwhere you're starting.
Don't even you need to put itback up again.
If they missed the last episode, they missed it, they gotta go
back and watch it yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
I can see what you're trying to do With your little
eyes.
Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
That's funny, though If they didn't, if they didn't
watch the last one, they yourlittle eyes.
That's funny, though If theydidn't watch the last one, they
got to go back and watch it.
Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
Well, that's up there for forever so they can go pull
it down.
Yeah, but anyway, all goodthings, make sure that you guys
are registering for the tour.
You know we're, and I know someearly bird specials are running
out over the next couple days.
Yep, you know, I think.
I think we're going to keep itgoing until probably the middle
(01:17:08):
of the month.
Just made an executive decision.
Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
And you know what's great about it Like even with me
, if I see a good tick of theearly bird price helping out,
then I'll keep going on, Maybeto the first event or the second
event.
You know, if it keeps bringingpeople in, it doesn't hurt.
Right, but you got a firstevent in February, right no,
(01:17:33):
last week in January, when westarted it up.
Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
We go yeah, so you're 30 days out.
Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
Yep, get it.
I'm excited, I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
I'm excited for it, are you?
Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
going out to Vegas.
I haven't decided yet.
We'll see what the boss tellsme.
What the big boss tells me, notDennis.
Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
I, not Dennis.
I understand you know SouthernIcebreakers this coming weekend,
man, yep, it's already aroundthe corner and so you know, I'll
probably I'll probably just doyou know record the interviews
and and upload them as part ofthe next episode.
(01:18:22):
Yep, I think, open there, we'lltalk about it.
But if you go up to Vegas,maybe do the same thing.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
Well, we'll make it work somewhere or another, we'll
figure it out.
Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
All right, my friend, that's all we got.
Better get some rest, becausewe have four or five days.
Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
What's that?
What's rest?
I'm already used to it.
Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
I don't even know, don't even know.
Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
All right, man Well again.
Like you said, happy HanukkahHappy.
Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Hanukkah.
Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Happy holidays.
Happy Hanukkah.
Happy holidays, happy new year,happy Mother's.
Day.
And.
Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
Happy birthday Jen.
Happy birthday, jen.
So Get ready, because in Fouror five days you're rolling.
Yes, sir, all the best to thefamily, family.
We'll talk to you soon likewise, likewise be safe.
Thank you.
Hey, Chris and everybody, welcome back to the
Golf Week Amateur Tour, thepodcast and, Chris, you know,
you and I we talked about somebig changes we've got coming for
the podcast for the year and Idon't know about you, but I'm
really super excited to sharethis big news today with
everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Yeah, completely correct.
You know we've been growing.
It's been a great journey andwe want to invite you and your
businesses to join us on thisamazing journey we've been on.
So, as of this episode, youknow, we're officially opening
up sponsorship opportunities forthe podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Chris, exactly.
You know we've got an amazingcommunity of listeners and
members and golfers, you know,that are passionate about
amateur golf and the tour.
So, whether you're a golf brand, a local business or just
somebody who loves the game,this would be a perfect chance
to connect with an engaged andenthusiastic audience.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
And it's not just about reaching our audience.
By partnering with us, yourbrand becomes part of the story
we're building here, one thatcelebrates the players, the
courses and the incredibleenergy of the Golf Week, amtour.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, and we could tailor any sponsorship packages
to meet your goals, you know,whether shout outs on the show,
mentions on social media or evencustom segments where we
highlight your brand.
And, Chris, you know, the firstone I'm thinking about is
Roger's Rules.
Roger needs a sponsor.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
He sure does.
So.
If you're interested inpartnering with us and getting
your name of of your businessout to the amateur golfers
across the country, reach outtoday.
Just email us at d mac that's dm a c at amateur golf tour dot
net yeah, let's team up to makethis podcast and golfing amateur
(01:42):
tour community even stronger.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
And and just remember , you know, the sponsorships is
what allows you know, chris, youand I to travel to the
regionals, to be able to go outand see everybody.
So, you know, we can't wait tohear from you.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, I mean thanks for tuning in and, as always,
keep hitting them straight.
All right, let's go ahead andget the show started.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Let's go.
All right, let's go ahead andget the show started.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
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Speaker 1 (02:36):
Welcome back everybody.
Hope everybody had a MerryChristmas and you're ready for
the new year.
Chris, it's good to see you,bud.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Likewise, the holidays were great.
Pretty sure they were great foryou as well.
But yeah, the new year'salready here and Jesus, man,
this thing is.
We need to have time to slowdown a little bit, my kids are
about to be in high school, andI don't even know where that
started.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I don't want to upset anybody but Icebreakers this
weekend.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So we're rolling.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, we are rolling, I know, and once you start
traveling, it's going to benonstop.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, so we'll wrap up this episode with how
Icebreaker is going to work withus.
But just essentially, I'llprobably just do the interviews
and record them and go fromthere, because you'll be, you'll
be in in.
Is it above 60 there?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
No, it's still cold, shut up.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
It's still cold.
We're just going to leave it atthat, All right?
Well, let's go ahead and getthis episode started Again.
I hope everybody had a happyMerry Christmas and is looking
forward to a new year.
I think it's only fitting tostart this episode off with a
new senior tour director out ofChicago.
He's been on tour for a goodlong while and I'm glad that we
(04:16):
had somebody step up to take theplace there.
So let's go ahead and welcomein Nick Linas from Chicago.
Nick, welcome to the show, bud,How's it going?
I'm doing great.
I'm more concerned about you.
I've known you for a few years,but I did not know that you
(04:37):
were a middle school teacher.
What's up with that?
I am Bless your heart.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yeah, so I teach middle school science, sixth
grade to be exact.
So, yeah, we just got done withmiddle school basketball, so I
coach eighth grade basketball aswell, and kids had a great
season.
I'm glad it's over with becausethat makes my life real busy.
Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
God bless you, coach.
I mean teaching middle schooland coaching little ones like
that.
I think coaching little ones isfun, but to teach in class, I
don't know how you do it.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know, I guess it's a special.
It takes a special breed ofperson.
You have to be patient, likeobviously right now I'm very
patient with my three-year-old.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Oh, that's awesome, though.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
No, you have to be very patient.
Hey, jess come on.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Sorry, give me one second, don't even worry about
it.
That's not the first time we'vehad kids on the podcast.
It won't be the last.
It won't be the last.
It won't be the last.
I absolutely love it.
I do, but I couldn't teachmiddle school.
There's just no way.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
No way Before you guys were talking about the cold
up here it's cold right now.
I mean negative 13 with thewind chill.
So I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Texas is not.
You don't have to live up there, you don't have to live up
there.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
This is true, this is true, oh gosh.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I just remember and before we get into this, that
when I was up there when we hadCOVID, we were playing at
Harborside and it had been likethe first week of June and it
was windy and it was cold, andit was like hadn't been like the
first week of June and it waswindy and it was cold and it was
rainy and all I had on was Ithink it was this actual shirt
and shorts and we couldn't goinside and it was like 40
(06:35):
degrees, it, miserable.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Yeah, I'm sure I was there, man.
I've been on the regular golfweek tour as a participant for
12, 13 years, so it's been awhile.
I remember times at Harborsideyou had 30, 40 mile per hour
winds in the face on a par three, you know, instead of having a
200 yard hole, I mean it'splaying like 250.
(07:02):
It's amazing.
Just like the Windy City, youknow.
That's why it gets thatnickname.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, actually you were there.
It was June 13th of 2020.
Oh wow, and so it was themiddle of June.
It was miserable, Miserable.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Again, you don't have to live there.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
No, but I was there in shorts and a shirt.
Good god I mean.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
It's amazing, though, how some players can still play
that great under extremeconditions.
I remember two years ago wasprobably the worst conditions
that we've ever experienced.
Um, it was at a place calledThunderhawk Really beautiful.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, it is, I like Thunderhawk yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
And it was probably 40, 50 degrees with rain, and
we're talking early in the year.
You know, here in Chicago wetry to get tournaments in April
or May but sometimes it can bereally, really cold.
We had probably 30 mile perhour winds.
It was raining, and a young kidfrom one of those I think he
was an E3 collegiate golfer andhe went out there in the rain
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and I think he shot.
I mean it was 40 degrees windyrain and he shot like a couple
over par at Thunderhawk.
I was like how, how do youcompete against him?
God bless it, man.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
But I love seeing that stuff.
Like that too, though, becauseyou know, for me, I'd, I'd fold,
I mean I would literally fold,I don't.
I mean, if it's cold, I'm done,I don't play.
If it's raining, I'm notplaying.
I you know, chris lives intexas and I get on him a lot.
He says if it's 60 degrees,it's cold, cold.
Chris likes it between 70 and80 degrees.
That's his sweet spot.
(08:45):
If it's over 80, it's too hot.
Under 70, it's too cold.
But you know, I got to a pointand I don't play much anymore.
But I got to a point where, ifI didn't like the weather, I
just wasn't going to play.
Because I played so much Ididn't have to play.
And no, if it's cold like that,I'm just going to go aside, I'm
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going to go aside.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I mean, it's not a matter of it being cold, I just
don't want to be in a jacket allday trying to swing a golf ball
.
That's not a problem, chrisstop lying.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
You might swing better that way.
I don't know.
I've never played golf with you, chris, but you you know,
sometimes it can make our swingsbetter, us amateurs yeah,
you're probably not wrong?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
yeah, because you're.
I mean you, you.
You shorten it up a little bit,probably slow it down a little
bit and and take out some of thesome of the error there.
But uh, but, but you're a,you're a champ flight player.
I'm looking at your index rightnow 2.3.
You know we had Bill on acouple episodes ago.
You know who took over for theregular golf week side also a
(09:53):
champ flight player and I toldhim you know Chicago champ
flight players.
I put them up against some ofthe best across the country.
I mean you guys got a ton ofgood players.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Oh, absolutely.
You mean you guys got a ton ofgood players.
Oh, absolutely.
Um, you know it's funny, Istarted in the B flight.
Back when I started, I mean Iwas still in my twenties.
I was actually probably morephysically fit than I am now.
But just being in golf weekplaying those competitive rounds
and you know, along with peoplethat you actually enjoy playing
golf with as well, I feel likeit's just um, it really just
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steps your game up a little bit.
You're in more competitiverounds, um, and I think, to be
honest, starting in the B flightand going up to champ flight
just over the years it'sactually helped me in like
amateur events outside of golfweek as well.
Yeah, um, I played in theIllinois open two years and just
(10:46):
quality qualifying for that wasone of my goals and it's just
like the best amateurs and prosin the state of Illinois.
But I mean you don't get likePGA tour professionals but you
got guys on there who play PGAtour Latin America webcom events
.
Um, I know there was one year.
Uh, what's his name?
Nick hardy.
(11:06):
Uh played over at.
He played at u of I.
Um, they have a greatcollegiate golf program.
Um, he played in the illinoisopen in place third.
And then this same guy, I think, was top 10 in a us open four
or five years later.
So it just shows that, like youknow, on any given weekend if
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you are just hot with the putter, you know things can happen.
And once you get to that tierwhere it's single digit, it's so
hard to get like one stroke offyour handicap.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
And that's one thing I've experienced playing so long
.
But golf week has definitelyhelped me and I enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
So Well, you know, I'm not going to say this number
to, you know, to embarrassanybody, but you know,
understand that this foreverybody out there.
Understand that.
You know, even the best playersdon't have good days.
Your very first round you shota one, or Very first round you
shot a 102.
And your index now, like I said,is a 2.3.
(12:10):
So you know it's about comingin, competing and getting better
and taking on those challenges,and so you know, looking at
your so I'm just looking at yourscores used in your index yeah,
with the 102, that was probablywhat the triple bogey max rule
to in effect, so I'm glad thatit was a 102.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Who knows that?
Could have been a lot worse.
And then you know, years later,this was man, this was probably
2017, maybe two thoughts.
So I know we played an event atCantini.
Then that's, you know, I thinkI was in the eight flight at the
time and then I go and shoot 72under and I shoot like a 32 on
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the back.
I think I had like 12 putts andit's just.
It just goes to show you thatyou know, it's kind of that's.
What makes it fun is becauseyou have that competition every
single weekend or every otherweekend, depending on how often
you have the events.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
And again, when you've got a good champ flight
group right, so it's not justlike one or two guys that you're
going head to head with everyweek.
You've got a bunch of guys andyou've got to bring your A game
every week to really be in themix.
That, to me, is something thatis important to understand, not
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only from the champ flight, butwe talk about the champ flight
in that sense all the time.
But the same thing goes for theA flight, same thing goes for
the B flight and C flight, Dflight.
Understand that when you're inthose other flights, you're
going to have 7, 8, 10 guys thatare going to have good rounds
and you have to have your bestround as well to be able to
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compete and win, and it justdrives you.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Let me ask you this because you're taking over as
seniors.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
You don't look like a senior to me, so yeah, I'm only
35, so part of the reason why Idecided seniors would be better
is obviously I'm competitiveand if I know that I'm not
playing on the regular tour, Imean I could play and be a
director.
But I just feel like my focusisn't where it needs to be if I
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want to play, at least in thefirst few years, so I can still
have, I can do both, and then Ican just focus just on the
senior tour, which I think issomething like if I'm going to
invest time in it, I don't wantto have to worry about being on
the course and then taking oversome of those responsibilities.
It's not to say that you can'tdo it, you just would need more
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help and more support from otherplayers.
But I'm I can't play in seniors, so it's kind of a nice gig in
my eyes yeah, you're absolutelyright.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
It's very difficult to play, to run the event and
play, and play well and run theevent well and do the things
that need to be done.
You know the customer serviceaspect taking care of the things
that have to be taken care ofand play and compete and be
where you want to be.
It's not easy.
Yeah, and it can be done bewhere you want, it's not easy.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Yeah, and it it can be done, but as far as like
competing at like one, likebeing in there at the end.
You know, sometimes one puttyou miss, you know, but you also
have to answer a text messageto something going on on the
course or clubhouse.
Like I can't focus that way,other people might be able to.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I can't, I can't, I can't focus that Other people
might be able to.
I can't, I can't, I couldn't doit.
It is the toughest thing, youwill ever do, trust me.
Yeah, it is tough, but you justdo it and you figure it out.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah, well, you know the good thing is I'm glad you
stepped up to take over theseniors, because you know we
need to get them back to wherethey were a few years ago and
you got pretty much a cleanslate.
So what types of things are youlooking to do this coming year?
Speaker 5 (16:16):
The first year, like right now, I'm just focused on
the schedule.
I think that's priority one.
It's a little bit moredifficult than I thought it was
going to be.
I'll be completely honest.
Um, I think the hardest thingis trying to get the prices down
on certain courses and, youknow, because guys don't want to
pay crazy astronomical prices,so trying to balance that um
(16:41):
sponsors would be nice.
I think in my first year I'mgoing to try and just have a
successful tournament Like inthe past.
What I remember when I reallyenjoyed golf week was, you know,
having trophies at every events, making sure that there's an
announcement at the end of everyround, so like congratulating
the winner, I think, just likeeven just saying their names out
(17:05):
loud, not instead of likehere's your gift card, great job
.
Second place.
Like, just so the other playersthat the let's say, there's 15,
20 other players in that sameflight, you know they can clap
and congratulate.
I think that's a good feeling,that it puts inside the winner.
I also want to I know a lot oftours do this but just posting
pictures on the website of youknow a little snippet of their
(17:30):
story and how their round went.
I think some of those justgetting back to it almost sounds
like the like I tell mybasketball players like the
fundamentals, right, you juststart with the basics, you can
have a successful, successfultour.
I mean, the guys just want togo out there, compete and have
fun and you know, I think thatyou need to get back to that.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
start with the basics to have a successful tour yeah,
you know, I could go, chris,and I'll just say it's funny
because, uh, you mentioned youknow, like the basketball team I
used to coach in Texas.
The high school teams have tohave an off-season travel team,
but their coach can't coach, soI still didn't coach.
(18:15):
You say it all the time, evenat the high school level you've
got to get back to basics.
Basics is what's going to getyou to be a champion, and you
said it perfectly.
If we, as directors, take itback to the basics, um, then
everyone falls in love with itand they come back for more yeah
, and I think you know gettingplayers on the tour.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
You know everyone.
There's guys that don't playevery single tournament right
now, but I just want as manymembers as possible.
Um, I play a lot of casual golfso I think I'm a great person
to be out there.
And just you know, sometimes Iplay golf by myself and I have
tee times and I get paired upwith people.
I have no idea who they are.
They're awesome people.
(18:55):
They hear about the tour.
They never sign up because Iwas just hey, like I play on the
golf week tour.
You should try it.
It's a lot of fun.
But they don't have theinformation.
So I think just having thosebrochures and just the
communication and collaborationwith golfers on an everyday
basis, I think is huge and Ithink I can add and bring people
to the tour just by doing that.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, absolutely.
That's the best, really thebest way to grow the tour is
through that word of mouth andfrom from you and from the
individual members.
You know again whether you're,whether you're at driving range
or whether, like you said,you're out there just playing a
casual round and you're pairedup with people.
You know that's that's how thetour really grows, and for sure
(19:39):
you know.
And the the other piece is isif everybody, if every player
for each tournament, justbrought one person Right, so
you've got a member, I may look,I'm playing in this tournament
next week at Thunderhawk, comewith me and somebody else brings
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somebody, once you get themthere, once they're going to be
hooked, that's how it's going togrow.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Absolutely.
I mean, I have people in mindalready Obviously not as many
senior friends, because I'm only35, but, my dad's on the senior
tour and I mean I golf with thesame group of seniors every
sunday with my dad and a fewbuddies, and I'm always telling
them like why don't you guysjoin?
I think now that I'm a directorI'm not saying they don't have
(20:34):
a choice, but it's like whatother.
Like I think some guys getnervous.
I'll be honest you know, theythink of it as highly
competitive and you have casualleagues all the time on
different golf courses and to meI don't like leagues because
(20:57):
you know how sometimes you havean index and then one guy shoots
well, and then it's like, ohwell, they shot a net 61.
Right.
So that's why I've never been afan of leagues.
I feel like this puts you on aneven playing field.
More You're with the guys thathave the same handicap as you If
they play a little bit betterthat day.
There's no discrepancy in thescore.
There's no confusion.
(21:18):
I feel like it's just all rightthere in front of you, which I
love.
The live scoring is huge.
I like the up-to-date scoringthat the guys get now with the
technology we have.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, it's awesome, you know you again, you can see
it.
Indexes are posted online foreverybody to see.
And no, as as we continue tomonitor the indexes and and and
(21:49):
tweak how we are enforcing theindexes, moving people up, I
mean, I just think that'ssomething special that we do,
because we're taking only whatwe record so yeah, I guess
(22:09):
monitoring, I guess, is theright word, um, but I mean it's,
it's just great because it'sjust the tournaments that that
we provide.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
So there's no way of of manipulating the score,
because we're only taking whatyou do.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Right, right.
And so you know, nick, I'm oneof the people that watches these
scores every weekend and haveto, you know, as part of the
committee, help make thosedisqualification decisions.
And so you know, when I seesome of these things that go on,
you know, all over the country,and of these things that go on
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all over the country, first off,we understand that the majority
of people that play this gameare honest and good guys.
Every once in a while you'regoing to have somebody who's
going to come in new.
I think they can game thesystem.
Those guys are relatively easyto ferret out pretty quick.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Yeah, I mean the number of rounds, I think is
just the sign of.
I mean it's so obvious, youknow, if you've had a guy on
tour for three, four years, he'snever won.
He's not, you know, changing uphis index or you know,
sandbagging is the term thatthey like to use but, um, you
know, sometimes guys do get not.
(23:32):
They have a great round and youknow, I know that's one thing
that you know.
We have the handbook right andthey have a set handicap and if
they score too low then you knowthere is disqualification.
So I know there's other factorsthat go into it such as like
years on tour and yeah, you knowhow many rounds have they had
(23:55):
and x amount of you know what isit, is it?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
20 rounds now still right I mean 16, 16 is 16, um,
and you know we also look atcourse conditions.
Let's just say that two guys inthe same flight had really good
rounds, or you know there's lowscores across the entire field.
You know the course is justplain easy as opposed to the
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course is plain hard, and thenthere's one guy who's really low
and then there's one guy who'sreally low.
I wouldn't say that'snecessarily automatic, but it
does make you kind of raise youreyebrow a little bit and look a
little bit further into it.
But the majority of the guysthat are out here playing honest
handicaps are legit and it'snot like we're playing for
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millions of dollars either.
Right, Even though some peoplefeel that way, so do you have
any courses already booked onschedule?
Speaker 5 (24:55):
So I have Thunderhawk .
I don't have any actuallyonline or on the website.
I mean, I'll just share withyou who I've talked to and who
I'm in communication with Umcause until I have something on
paper and I you know, obviouslycontracts, you have to be
careful.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
I don't want to say there's a course and then we
don't get that course.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Yep, so I live in Northern Illinois, I live just
like right on the border.
Um, I'm trying to get coursesSouth, trying to get courses
courses north, trying to spreadit out a little bit, because I
know I'm a chicago senior, uhtour director.
Um, so far I've had a couplegeneva courses, lake geneva.
Um, yeah, I have thunderhawk,which we're good to go on.
(25:37):
That I just have to finalizethings, trying to get a two-day
event with's Crook.
I haven't heard back from them,um, so I mean that would just
make sense because I'm trying toget a two day for that weekend.
Um, shepard's Crook andThunderhawk.
Thunderhawk, we're good to goand that's a great course.
So I'm happy with that one, um,cause normally we do Chicago uh
(26:00):
, chicago golf week andMilwaukee.
Sometimes they do a combo event.
It's a popular course and theguys love it.
I like going back to coursesthat most of the players enjoy.
Playing.
Absolutely.
I have another fun one.
It's actually in Lake Geneva.
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It's called Hawksview.
Have you ever played that?
Speaker 1 (26:23):
No.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
They have a couple par threes.
They are like from the backtees, I want to say like the
elevation change.
I don't know if it's like 100,150 feet.
It's insane.
I know from the back tees Ithink it plays like 210 to 20
maybe, or that's the actualyardage, but it plays probably
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like 175, 180.
It's that far downhill.
That's awesome.
So it's a fun course to play inthere.
I don't recommend anyone walkthe course, though.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Obviously not with that elevation, no way.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Yeah, you're going up and down steep hills,
especially on those par threes.
That's crazy.
That's crazy, because I knowthere's guys on the golf week I
mean, I don't know about seniorsbecause I'm never around for
seniors, but on the regular tourthere's guys who walk all the
time.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
At that course.
There's maybe one course intown that I'll walk.
Yeah, it really depends coursein town that I'll walk.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Yeah, it really depends.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Maybe yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Well, everything's flat in El.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Paso.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Right.
That's why I walk that onecourse because it's flat and
everything's close by.
Oh, Chris.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I just like giving you a hard time.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I know Well, nick, thank you so much for for for
joining us.
I really do appreciate it.
What one more?
One more question for you.
If you could tell, tell peopleone reason to join the tour,
what would it be?
Speaker 5 (27:59):
I would just say how much fun I have, the camaraderie
, the people you meet um you.
A lot of times guys leave theirhouse.
They're like, hey, I'm going togolf with the guys and
sometimes some of those otherbuddies.
They're going to be busy oneweekend, but if you I mean if
you meet the golf week crew youalways have someone that you can
call, hang out with, say, hey,do you want to hit up 18 holes?
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I mean, there's always someonein my phone I can call just for
that very reason.
So it's not just about thecompetition, it's about the
people you meet.
Um, I am a very competitiveperson at nature so that's why
I've been hooked to it, um, so Ifeel like it's gonna draw a lot
more of those people that havethat competitive edge to them
(28:43):
that you know are craving that,especially, you know, in your
50s and 60s.
Whatever it is like on thesenior tour, a lot of those guys
can't hit the ball as far asright.
You know some of the youngercrew so they start to feel like
they can't compete, especiallywith the lower indexes.
So then on the senior tour itgives them that opportunity
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where yardages don't matteranymore, so you're not facing
the big hitters all the time.
Everyone, you know, normallyhits the ball the same distance.
So I like how it kind of.
You know you can compete withanyone out here.
It's not, you know, some peoplemight think, oh, tournaments,
it's, it's kind of it's acombination, it's competitive,
but it's kind of a league at thesame time.
(29:24):
It's.
It's something that's just fun,that I enjoy doing and I'm sure
other people would too if theyjoin absolutely absolutely,
absolutely well.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Again, nick, thanks so much for joining us.
I appreciate it and I knowyou're going to do well and, uh,
hopefully we'll see youthroughout the year.
All right, thanks for having me.
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Speaker 3 (30:03):
Tim Nick.
We wish them the best startingoff this new tour.
I always say all the time Iknow how it is to be a new
director, but especially withthe seniors I'm going to say
this the senior tour, they dohave a lot of fun.
They do have a lot of fun afterthe round.
I've been a young guy trying tohave a senior tour.
(30:24):
It's not easy, but hopefullyhe's able to bring that tour to
one of the best ones we got.
I think he has the capabilityof doing it.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, he does, and I think he's really kind of right
on from his perspective of justbeing a player on the golf week
side and not have to worry aboutdoing those types of things and
, you know, being a tourdirector on the senior side, um,
cause he can just go andcompete and uh, um then take
(31:00):
care of the seniors the way theyneed to be taken care of.
He's going to do a great job.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
And I mean being able to have that time is is is nice
cause you.
You can then relax, maybe hitthe putting and chipping green
while they're playing for alittle bit, let that pace kind
of build up and then if you haveto go out there and take care
of the pace, then you can.
If not, I would use it at timesfor practice.
(31:27):
That'd be my practice time,because I've got to be out there
anyways times for practice.
That'd be my practice time,because I've got to be out there
anyways.
But you get to know these guysand hear their stories, their
life stories, because for somereason the seniors like to tell
you everything that they've gonethrough.
And, yeah, it's a good time.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
It is.
And if he can teach middleschool science, sixth grade
science, he'll be fine.
He'll be just fine with theseniors, yeah, he'll be all
right.
And you know the other thingwith seniors it's a completely
different vibe, right?
It's not that they're notcompetitive because they are,
it's just they're a little bitmore laid back competitive, at
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least from my experience right,right, right.
It's a lot different than whathe's probably used to in the
champs like yeah For sure,experience, right, right, right.
It's a lot different than whathe's probably used to in the
champs, like yeah for sure, okay, so well, anyway, I know he's
gonna do well and, um, god blesshim.
And and again, love seeing hiskids.
You know, last episode, lastepisode we had armand's kids in
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and uh, it's great and we're afamily show at times maybe that
that's going to be our new thing.
We've got to have some kidsflash across.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
It's perfectly fine with me.
I'm not upset about it, me too.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Love it, love it, love it.
Well, so let's transition intoour next new tour director.
But he's not really new.
He's been with us for he's beenwith me for a while.
He's been my assistant foreight years, and now we just
kind of made it official andwe'll talk about a few things,
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so let's just go ahead andwelcome Alan.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
Al welcome to the show bud.
Thank you, guys.
Before we get started, I justwant to Al.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Welcome to the show bud.
Thank you guys.
Great Thanks for having me.
Before we get started, I justwant to say a couple words.
You know, you and I met througha mutual connection of Cephas
Franklin.
You know our friend, the DCtour director.
And we met like right after thenational championship in 2016.
And I can't number one thankhim enough for that.
Introduction.
No-transcript, and you've heardme say this over and over again
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and I don't just say this, thisis the actual truth.
I really don't do a whole lot.
You know, jen does a lot of thebackroom stuff.
You take care of a lot of stuffon tournament day and my job is
really to walk around, talk toguys, shake hands, give out the
awards and those types of things.
So tour would not be nearly whatit is without you.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
Yeah, I appreciate that.
I appreciate that, tim.
It's more of you know all theguys is coming out enjoying
their day of golf and enjoyingthe game, and when Cephas
brought me in I just had retiredfrom the county DeKalb County
for after 30 years I think.
I was retired about a year orso and Cephas brought me in,
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introduced me to yourself andJen and it's been uphill from
there.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
And I appreciate our relationship and providing golf
here in Atlanta.
Yeah, I was talking to Chrisjust before we had you in.
He said, you know it may bekind of a culture shock.
I said, well, you need to holdon a second.
Al has so much experience inevent management and the things
that he's done in his previouscareer and some of the other
things that he's doing right now.
So why don't you tell everybodywhat you did for DeKalb County
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and you know kind of some of theother things that you do with
your football league?
Speaker 7 (35:02):
Yeah, I currently.
I retired from DeKalb in 2014and I headed up all the
athletics there.
Actually, I moved up to deputydirector, but that was a little
on managing more behind the desk.
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But I was the athletic andaquatics manager so I ran
day-to-day youth sports, adultsports, senior sports, senior
Olympics the whole nine yards ofany sports that you can name in
dekalb for youth sports and andteens.
So, um, I did that for 17, 18years and went up to deputy and
then did management or budgetsand things of that nature.
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But, uh, retired after 30 yearsand and when I was there, I
started a youth football leaguethat's flourishing right now in
Atlanta.
It's called AYU Atlanta YouthFootball League.
That's doing real well rightnow and they're actual guys with
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teams in Florida all around thecountry that's playing right
now.
That's finished up the footballseason.
We've got some teams in Floridaall around the country that's
playing right now.
That's finished up the footballseason.
But Golf Week has been a joy tome to provide golf for adults
and seniors here in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Go ahead, chris.
No, I was just going to saythat's a lot of work that you've
gotten under your belt, so I'mgonna take my statement back
that I told Tim and uh.
I think, you're gonna be allright where you're gonna be.
But uh, you know, tim, you kindof make me feel bad when you
say you don't do anything outthere because you got everybody
else doing everything.
I need to start getting moreassistance to do the back end
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work and all this other stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Well, you know and Chris, you may not have heard me
say this before, but I'm one ofthe best at getting out of the
things that I don't want to do.
You know, I'm one of the bestat that.
I find other people do all thestuff that I don't want to do,
and one of the things that Imean you talked about this To me
, the best day of the week istournament day, hanging out with
the guys, you know, shakinghands and cutting up and doing
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those types of things.
That's the stuff that I reallylove doing.
You know, giving out the awards, al.
I mean, you've seen us with theawards, especially when we've
got shotguns and all the guyshang out and it's a really big
deal to give out trophies andthe gift cards and those types
of things.
Speaker 7 (37:32):
Yeah, it's about you know when you finish a.
I'm more favorable for shotgunsbecause it brings everybody in
at the same time.
When you're doing just, youknow, first tees and coming off
the first different teetops,it's different than the shotgun.
The shotguns when we can getthose, it's a jewel for us to
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sit around when it finishes up.
You know, guys talking, gettingawards, talking about their
rounds, it's all thatcamaraderie that you have
throughout the day.
Spending four or five hourssupposed to be four hours, but
four or five hours, sometimesfive and a half hours with guys
is a long day and what you doout on the course, you build
relationships and that's whatit's allowed.
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We build a lot of relationshipswith guys that you didn't know
and after five rounds you get toknow them and you see them next
week and week after week after,after eight, nine weeks of golf
season.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
It them and you see them next week and week after
week after, after eight, nineweeks of golf season, it's, it's
, it's, it's really enjoyable.
Yeah, it, it is.
And and again.
You've been around for eightyears, um, and you know you've
seen a little bit of growth thatwe've had in atlanta.
You know when we first started,you know actually when I got
there so I'd been there for twoyears before you came on and the
growth that we've seen sinceyou've been there in the
recruiting, you know we wentfrom I think we had like 80 guys
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, 90 guys, yep, and this year Ithink we finished at 147.
Last year we were at150-something.
That's pretty good growth.
Again, obviously we'd like toget up to the 175 area, but
getting to that number andgetting 60 to 75 guys out for a
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tournament it takes a lot ofwork.
Speaker 7 (39:27):
Hey, we're looking to grow like Tidewater.
We want to be where you openregistration and you got 200
guys waiting, 220, whatever thenumber is and trying to jump to
that level.
So Atlanta, we'll grow andwe'll get there.
Like Tim said, we're 80 to 125,145, 150.
I'm expecting 170, 180.
(39:49):
Hopefully we can get to thatnumber this year and have more
golfers out, and I think we cando that.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah, I think so too.
Just so everybody understandsyou're really going to be the
guy.
You're going to be the point ofcontact in Atlanta.
I'm still going to be around,but you're really going to be
the guy.
I mean, you're going to be thepoint of contact in Atlanta.
I'm still going to be around,but you're really going to be
the point of contact in terms ofall the tournaments, answering
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all the questions and the textmessages and the course stuff
and all that.
There's other things.
So, to our Atlanta members, I'mnot going anywhere, but you're
really going to be the face.
You're going to be the onethat's running around on
tournament day shaking hands andgiving out the award.
Speaker 7 (40:37):
Yeah, we're looking at some different courses or
some semi-private courses thatwe're trying to bring in some
new courses in and get somedifferent looks at play during
this year and I think that withthe members we have reaching out
to their friends and you knowmore friends coming in that they
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have and Atlanta has differentgroups of golfers that play
within golf week so they play.
You know, if we're not playinga weekend, they'll go out and
play in their groups and comeback.
So we're looking to increaseour numbers and increase our
different play.
We have some courses on ourradar that we're trying to put
on our list of schedule for thisupcoming 25 season.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yeah, yeah, we're going to do a combo event with
Alabama and Nashville, which isgoing to be a really good course
.
I don't think they want us toannounce what course that is yet
.
That's going to be a reallygood event.
Yeah, hopefully we're going toget back to to what was the
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place in McCormick it was Terraand Monticello.
Down at Savannah Lakes.
Yeah, savannah Lakes.
Tell you what that place is ahidden gem it is For anybody who
wants to do a two-day.
Come join us down there atSavannah Lakes, the Terra course
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and the Monticello courseHidden Gems.
They treated us really, reallynice there.
Speaker 7 (42:17):
Yeah, corners Augusta Us.
I mean we'll cut you off, butCorners Augusta Us in South
Carolina.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (42:33):
So what other courses are you looking at?
This year we reached out to theUniversity of Georgia, which is
one of the good courses, sowe're trying to you know what
you got another chance.
We have another chance comingup this weekend Texas and
Georgia let's don't go there onthe football side.
You know what happened lasttime I forgot what course we
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were playing and I had to findyou.
I had to find you.
I lost you to him.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
He made sure to tell Jen, your Jen Tim, that he's
looking for me.
Speaker 7 (43:09):
Yeah, but University of Georgia, the Tero course and
we're trying to.
It's a course down in Griffin.
I don't know if you've heard ofSun City, so we've got some
contacts with those.
So it's not definite yet, butwe've got some courses that
we're trying to put on theschedule that we can enjoy.
Golf is our joy is here inAtlanta.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
So of all the courses that you've played being on
Golf Week, oh, let me even askyou this question.
What everybody needs tounderstand.
Okay is Al, you got ahole-in-one at Whistling Straits
.
Speaker 7 (43:49):
Was the hole number 16?
No seven by the ocean.
Tell everybody about that.
Seven.
Had a nine iron on number sevenon the ocean side.
It rained that day.
It snowed, I mean, it rainedwind, sun.
I had three seasons on thathole and I holed out on it.
(44:10):
That's pretty awesome and Ilook for history of somebody
holding out.
I don't know there's no historyof a PGA nobody holding out on
that hold.
Yep.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
And what I was trying to do and I told you this what
I was trying to do was findsomebody who would hold out and
get a flag and have them sign itcongratulating you, who would
hold out and get a flag and havethem sign it congratulating you
.
But there wasn't any.
There wasn't any pg or pjplayers or lpga players that had
done that.
So sorry, bud, you're out ofluck well, I'm alone, I think
(44:41):
I'll take, I'll take golf aloneon that hole so, outside of
whistling straights becausebecause that one doesn't count
what what's been your, yourfavorite course that you've
played on tour, because you'vedone a little bit of traveling
with it as well.
So what's been your favoritecourse?
Speaker 7 (45:00):
uh, I can say Hilton Head.
I like Dillman's courses.
Okay, yeah, I like Dillman'scourses.
(45:22):
They are challenging andenjoyable at the same time.
Hampton Hall let me back upHampton Hall.
I think Chris and I playHampton Hall.
Let me back up Hampton Hall.
I think Chris and I playHampton Hall.
If I'm not mistaken, hamptonHall is a jewel in that.
Hampton Hall is probably thebest on golf week.
(45:43):
Hampton Hall would be thenumber one.
And then the Jones course.
See Chris is.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
What's Chris at Hampton Hall all the way.
Speaker 7 (45:57):
Hampton Hall is a great course, I would say.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
But see, chris, it's not just me.
I can't really decide which isa favorite course here on the
island.
I mean when you look at it,okay, because I would say I
would agree with you.
Hampton Hall is one of my tops,jones Course is one of my tops.
Country Club of Hilton Head isone of my tops.
I mean, at least for me comingdown here.
Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
Well, no, I was just going to say like, when you for
me, when I get down there, Iwant to have fun, but also not
be, but also not be, but also bechallenged.
Right, I don't want to.
I don't want to have a headacheon every hole, and it seems
like the jones courses give me aheadache on every hole and
hampton hall gives you enoughleeway to have fun and have a
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have a shot, but but still bechallenging at that point
that's's right.
That's right.
I would say I can agree to that,chris, especially on Sunday
pins that they have there for anational championship oh my God,
there's some of those holeswhere it's like a turtle back,
but it's still fun.
It's not like circus, puttingyou know what I mean.
(47:08):
You still got to be challengedat it, but it's not a headache
once you're walking back to yourcart.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Yeah, Speaking of headache, okay.
And everybody thinks that.
You know, atlanta is hot allthe time.
What's the weather there likeright now?
Speaker 7 (47:33):
Weather.
Here now it will be 22 degreesin the morning.
In Atlanta it's cold.
I mean, you know, sometimes wecan hit the mess.
It's supposed to warm back uptowards the end of the week, but
we have almost.
We can play golf all the waythrough November sometimes here.
Right, it just depends on howthat belt line goes and how that
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weather jet stream comesthrough here.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
You know we were talking offline and you told us
it's going to be really cold inthe 20s and Chris said well, the
cold stuff isn't really cominghere until next week for us.
We said what's cold and he said60 degrees.
Speaker 7 (48:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
He can't play golf, I'll be living in this hoodie
for the next three months.
Speaker 7 (48:21):
Oh wow, that's 60?
T-shirts.
If I had 60 here, I'd be in at-shirt.
That'd be nice wouldn't it.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
We're out here Even still, though out in Atlanta, I
mean.
So we do get those, you know,those cold temperatures every
once in a while, but even still,it doesn't stay like that for
very long, and my guess is a lotof courses will be packed, even
at 20-something degrees,Because it'll be maybe 20 in the
(48:48):
morning, but by noontime it'llwarm up to 30, 40 degrees and
it'll be fine.
Speaker 7 (48:54):
Yeah, you can wake up and play early.
It'll be 40-something degrees.
By the time you finish it'll be65, something like 20 degrees
difference.
We just kind of watch theweather and see when we can get
out, based on tee time andfinishing the roundup.
When you finishing the roundup,when you finish roundup, you
can be in 60 to 65 degreeweather.
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So it changes like that.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
It just warms up like that see, I'll put it this way
if, if your professionalfootball team has a dome, I am
playing golf in the winter inyour area, because even they
know it's too cold.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
Yeah, oh man.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Yeah, actually that wouldn't make sense, because
Arizona is also a dome.
Yeah so scratch that I guessthey get through.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
They get through.
Yeah, all right, I want to putyou on the spot here too.
Okay, because we didn't talkabout this question at all.
What's been your most memorableround and you can't say the
whole in one?
Now what's?
Been your most memorable roundon tour because you've been
around for a long time andyou've got the experience of
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playing.
You've got experience of ofplaying, just playing.
You've got experience ofplaying and helping run the
thing.
So all around you've beeninvolved in what's been your
most memorable.
Speaker 7 (50:24):
I think it's about.
I can't remember the guy's name.
He was a sheriff deputy out of.
I have to look back.
I got it written down he was asheriff deputy out of Alabama.
I can't think of this guy'sname right off the top and it
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was from four differentlocations when we played.
But I remember.
I didn't even remember playingthe golf, I just remember having
conversations about him, hiskids, his family.
(51:14):
We talked more about that andthat foursome than we did golf
itself.
So my memory doesn't serve mecorrectly right here and now.
But that's what Golf Week isabout.
It's about relationships.
Guys you play golf with.
Guys you spend four or fivehours with playing.
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So that's my memorable golfthat I would have in golf week,
besides the guys that I knowevery day that I play with.
That will be one of them.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
Yeah, yeah, I remember that round that you're
talking about, and I think hiswife plays as well, if I'm not
mistaken.
Yes, yes, and because we did.
Speaker 7 (52:03):
He's a sheriff deputy in Alabama.
I cannot think of his name.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
He might have seen his and and send you something
on it, but we talk the wholeround, but but that's but again,
that's really what it's abouttoo, right?
I mean, yeah, you know when andwe and we tell our actually you
specifically tell our membersthat on a regular basis.
Yes, I do.
You know at what.
You know when we're justhanging out talking, you know at
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the end of, at end oftournament round, especially
when we have shotguns, youspecifically say these things to
our players and I think we havea really good culture in
Atlanta that really kind ofembraces that.
Speaker 7 (52:45):
Yeah, and the emphasis put on.
I'll say this all the time, butthe emphasis put on you know
that's not golf, it's nature howthe course is put together.
You have deer running through,you have, and every time we have
, I look for fish.
I'm a fisherman as well as faras golfers.
I look for fish in the ponds,in the lakes.
That's right around us and it'sthe nature of it.
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And then you know, when youplay golf, you've got to
consider the elements, wind, ifit's sunny, if it's rainy, if
it's downwind, upwind, math,calculating All those things are
challenging things.
Elements that you have to putforth when you're playing golf.
It's a mental game as well asenjoying the environment when
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you're playing, and all that.
A lot of people know you'rejust going to hit the ball.
You're playing against thepressure.
No, you're playing againstyourself.
Elements that's put forthExactly.
Well again.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
I'm going to put you on the spot again Because I
think it's important peopleunderstand who we are as tour
directors and tour members.
You won a national championshipin football.
You scored a winning touchdown.
Yep, Tell Chris about that,yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 7 (54:09):
I don't put too much emphasis on that.
You know that was a while ago,1982.
Um, we were short, we hadopportunity.
It was strike year.
The year before that, I thinkthe same year, was a strike in
nfl and we had opportunity toplay on tv about two or three
times and we, uh, the previousyear, in 81, we made it to
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quarterfinals and we lost to, Ithink, maybe Winder, winder
College up in Pennsylvania,somewhere up that area, and then
we 82, we won against maybeWinder in 82, and then we played
(54:52):
against another team in 81.
But, long story short, we didhave an opportunity to win the
championship on national TV.
But it was about that point.
At West Georgia we learned Ilearned myself.
It's about team.
It's about again, it was cold Ithink it was probably like 30
(55:14):
something degrees when we playedthat year.
Uh, but, um, um, winning thatchampionship.
You look back on yourrelationships, not that you want
it, but the relationship thatgot you to that championship.
Right, and that's that's what Itake from experience of winning
championships.
Anything about any guy that'scarrying a ring from a football
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or basketball or baseball orwhatever it'll, they'll tell you
.
It's about how we got there.
How we got there, and the samething with golf and people
enjoying golf is that, um,you're winning, you're winning
scores, I mean your scores.
Your scores are what you'rewinning against.
So if I'm shooting 80, 85, ifI'm trying to push my scores
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down, it's against me myself andnot the opponent that you have.
It's a little bit different inteam sports and individual
sports, but West Georgia was agreat experience for me in the
years I was there, 81 to 84, butthat 82 year was very special
and I don't talk much about it,tim, I always bring it up.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
It's important because, again, not only do you
have that history in the sportindustry and business and
running these types of events,but you're also an athlete,
right.
I mean you're not an athletelike you were in 82 or 83, but
you're still an athlete, right.
I mean you still have thosecharacters those qualities,
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those things that got you to beat that level.
Speaker 7 (56:52):
Yeah, right now my back wouldn't say that I was
some sort of athlete.
It's telling on you after youplayed the sport and it's
telling on you and it's a totalon you.
But again, I tell everybody,you know, after coming out of an
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active sport like that, tennis,golf, hiking, biking,
pickleball now are sports thatyou want to pick up for
long-time sports, for, I guess,the elderly but your later lives
, because that'll keep youactive, keep you moving, keep
you healthy.
All those things are veryimportant in the sport.
(57:37):
In the industry I come from thepark to rec and the sports
administration part you have tokeep your body moving, keep it
energized, keep it healthy, eatthe right foods, those type of
things.
Speaker 1 (57:54):
Made me feel bad about myself.
Speaker 7 (57:55):
I'm sorry, I'm just, I'm, just, you know I'm, I'm
spending facts, though I knowI'm guilty of it sometimes too
well, let me do.
Speaker 1 (58:09):
You wear that detroit Lions hat around town or just
at home.
Speaker 7 (58:12):
No, I wear it all around town.
I got a nephew that's adefensive coordinator for one of
the defensive linebackers forthe Lions and hopefully next
year, depending on where theyend up this year they end up in
the divisional chapters SuperBowl.
Whatever he'll get a defensivecoordinator job he will.
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Kelvin Shepard, which is mynephew, will have a job either
for somebody's defensive,because he does a very good job.
I don't brag about much.
I know football.
I don't brag about much but heis a great coach.
He's very personal to thoseguys.
Watch those linebackers howthey fly around and he will be a
(58:57):
.
I'm predicting now, if you lookback two or three years ago,
he'll be an NFL defensecoordinator and someday a head
coach.
They actually did an article onthat Good.
Speaker 1 (59:08):
If you Google it, it's an article that came out.
I mean, he's in a goodsituation right now.
Dan Campbell is a yes, he cameout of nowhere, I think, and his
style, the way he coaches, theway he deals with players, is
kind of the new way to do it,and so he's learning from one of
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the best, I think.
Yep.
Speaker 7 (59:31):
Dan Campbell is changing with the best.
I think, yep, dan Campbell ischanging with the times, being
able to relate to those players.
Speaker 1 (59:40):
Well, al, again I can't thank you enough for all
that you've done for us in thetour, looking forward to
continue this year, but we are.
Speaker 2 (59:54):
I'm looking forward to continue this year, but you
can answer that.
Speaker 7 (59:57):
I'm excited.
I'm excited for Atlanta.
I'm excited for the coursesthat we'll play this year.
I'm excited and look forward tothe relationships we'll develop
, the new players that's comingon, the new players that will
sign up with us, and weguarantee you'll have a great
time with us.
I don't know if I'll play muchmyself, but I'm going to make
(01:00:18):
sure that the guys that sign uphave an enjoyable time when they
come and sign up to play withus in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Al, when you do play, I want you to text me and tell
me how fun it was to have toworry while you're playing and
making sure everybody's on timeand everything like that.
Speaker 7 (01:00:37):
Hey bud, hey bud.
I already been through that.
Tim will tell you.
I already been through that.
I did the seniors here.
I would play and try to playand come back and get the scores
together.
It's not pretty.
Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
It's not, but when we win it's it's.
It's not pretty, it's not, butwhen we win, it's like okay,
that was yeah, it was two jobsin one hey, I won one.
Speaker 7 (01:00:56):
I think I did one one time and I had to present a
trophy to myself, so it was.
Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
That's the most awkward part, that's the that's
the part I try to skip is whenit's like all right, and the
beef flight winner is yeah, yeah, we're just gonna skip that one
skip it over.
Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Yeah, I don't even want to talk about it, yeah All
right, my friend, you take careof yourself and we'll talk to
you soon All right, I appreciateit guys.
Speaker 7 (01:01:19):
Thank you All right.
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I was gonna have a blast withthe atlanta tour, but uh, I mean
, don't get mad when he getsmore members than you've had.
Okay, oh, I'm.
Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
I'm not going to get mad one bit, because I'm pretty
sure that's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
I hope it happens.
Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
I really do.
You know, he's been around longenough to know.
He knows the ins and outs, heknows the guys really well, he
knows the pockets of playersthat are around and you know and
he touched on something reallyimportant you know, in Atlanta
(01:02:16):
we've got what Al and I callpods pods of players.
You know where.
They have their own groups, solike we got 10 or 15 guys that
play with this group, or 10 or15 guys play with that group,
and so forth, and Havana is anarea that has a lot of different
(01:02:37):
groups or leagues all over theplace and that's kind of how
they, that's everywhere.
Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
I mean, we have that too here.
Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
No, chris, this is different, trust me.
Okay, it's yes, mean we havethat too here.
No, no, chris, this is different, trust me.
Okay, yes, other places havethat, but this is number one.
It's way more organized, waymore.
It's bigger.
It's bigger than I mean.
(01:03:10):
It's kind of like its own Idon't even like using this word,
but it's kind of like its ownecosystem within its Okay, okay.
And so what ends up happeningis you get one or two guys that
will go and this is kind of howwe grew it.
One or two guys from, let'sjust say, this pod over here
(01:03:32):
would come and try it out andthey liked it, and they would
then, like I told Nick, bringone or two guys, and then they
would bring one or two guys, andthen they would bring one or
two guys.
And so, and even within thesepods, like some of the guys will
play in like one or twodifferent pods as well, and so
(01:03:56):
it's very well defined and I'mnot going to say clicky at all.
But if you say you know, I knowI'm playing with this group, I
mean the groups have their ownnames, have their own.
It's a pretty big deal.
So he knows the infrastructureof them, he knows the contacts
(01:04:20):
of the guys who run these thingsand we actually have a lot of
those guys that are on the floornow.
But to be able to bring more ofthose guys in, because he's
there and he can focus on doingthat, I'm sure he's going to be
bigger than when I was in chargeof it and it's great.
Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
Good for him.
Yeah, awesome Again being ableto talk to him in depth about
what his plans are and what hesees.
I just can't wait to see whatcomes of this year and be able
to talk about it at the directormeeting next year.
Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
I'm looking forward to seeing that and with some of
the things we've got going on,I'll still be around in Atlanta,
but I won't be able to be doingthe day-to-day and all the
tournament day stuff, just withwhat we're doing with the
podcast and that's just thegrowth.
(01:05:22):
It is what it is.
It's all good things.
It's all good things for thetour and we'll see what happens.
I'll miss the guys day to daybecause, again, horn of the Day
for me is the best day of theweek, so we'll still have it for
regionals.
And best day of the week, sowe'll still have it for
(01:05:43):
regionals and those types ofthings.
Yeah, for sure.
And then when I'm still in town,we Anyway, that's that, so you
know.
You guys have a good Christmas.
Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
We did Good relaxing time.
I mean, you know I still workretail so I only get it for a
couple days.
I don't know, I still got toget back out there for the
return season of it.
Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Yeah, so do you work the day after Christmas?
Oh yeah, oh yeah, god bless youman.
Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
God bless you and people bring their gifts that
they just got to return becausethey don't like them.
It's like.
Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Well, you work at Apple.
Who's returned something thatApple puts?
Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
out.
You would be surprised.
Are you serious?
No, I mean, it's one of thosethings.
I don't like this color.
I want a different color.
It's just crazy.
I can't.
Chris, you should have said no,nobody returns it.
You should have just humor me.
Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
I'm not going to lie about it.
I got to work.
I wish you should have said no,nobody returns it.
You should have just just humorme.
Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
I'm not going to lie about it, I got to work.
Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
I'm not going to lie about it.
You know, I actually need to goto the, to the Apple store.
I need to to change the batteryin what I'm going to pull up it
.
Should it's just old, Just buya new one.
Well, Can't Just?
Trade it in and buy a new one.
Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
That's a conversation for another day Is that what I
should do.
This is a conversation foranother day.
Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Sorry, man, I can't help, but I also have to buy an
iPad, maybe if I didn't likeApple stuff so much.
But I also have to buy an iPad,maybe if I didn't like Apple
stuff so much.
Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Anyway, the Christmas is good.
Kids are happy.
Christmas is good.
Yep, they're happy New year and, yeah, I mean, I'm already
looking forward to it.
So can't wait to see whathappens this year.
Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Well, last episode came out right before Christmas
and we we have a number ofreasons why you and I are going
to hell.
By the way, happy Mother's Day.
We don't want to forget that.
But we did forget one why youand I are going to hell.
By the way, happy Mother's Day.
Yep, we don't want to forgetthat, but we did forget one.
Actually, we forgot two things.
Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
Well, we didn't forget one, because it hasn't
started yet, so we're still good, we just got reminded about it.
Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
It's not over yet.
It started on Christmas andthat's happy Hanukkah.
Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
This is coming before Christmas.
Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
No, this is December 30th oh never mind, I'm going
twice.
So, yeah, we're going to hell,but Jen's birthday was on the
18th and we missed her birthday.
Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
I'm going to hell, Uh it you know, we, we as a
podcast.
Mr you as a person did not knowas a as a person.
Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
I did not.
I did not miss it.
Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
I did, I didn't, we, we, we had a good time.
Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
But you know we we had a good time.
But you know all that she doesfor the tour.
You know the training of thetour directors, this handicap
stuff, all the time that sheputs in so don't even get me
(01:09:19):
started.
And what she puts up with me, Iwould say one of the positives I
guess for Jen is with me notnecessarily being at ornaments
this coming year is that willfree up some time for her.
(01:09:42):
I'm pretty sure Of her notsitting at the registration desk
, check-in desk and all thosetypes of things all day.
Trust me, I know.
Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
If I'm late to her registration, she's going to
have it at nationals.
And I thought I'd get a passand I didn't.
And it was a good thing.
Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
I made it, because, imagine, if I didn't make it
this year how depressing thatwould have been, with how well I
played.
Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
I know you wouldn't be a Directors' Cup winner.
No, no, you wouldn't beDirector's Cup winner.
No.
Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
I mean, I literally rolled up and she had her mic in
her hand ready to doannouncements.
He's on it, man, he's on it.
I'm surprised she didn't callme and yell at me while I was
driving.
Well, she texted me.
Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
She texted me.
She said where's Chris?
Well, first off, I don't know.
I mean where's Chris?
Well, first off, I don't know.
I mean we're not together.
He's not even in the flightthat I'm in.
He didn't call me, you know,check in and said well, he's not
(01:10:55):
here.
He said all he wants is nothere.
I said what do you want from me?
I get it.
Everything's not here.
I don't know what you want fromme.
I mean I was just I get itEverything's.
I get it.
Everything's my fault and I ownit, but I don't know what you
want me to do.
Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
That's a story to tell forever.
Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
She started yelling at me before she even started
yelling.
Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
I.
I heard it when I walked in.
Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
I'll be late next year I think she's going to
request to be at your course.
She probably will.
Anyway, when Jen's atregistration, you better be on
top of it, you better.
Well, no, not really.
I think she's just like thatwith tour directors, the regular
(01:11:43):
members for the most part theregular members.
She's nice, calm, soothingvoice.
We should know better.
Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Yeah, you don't have your $40 for skins, then we'll
take care of it and I do, I do,I'll take care of it, but anyway
.
But yeah, I mean she's, soshe'll have some free time on a
(01:12:14):
couple of sets.
Happy birthday, jen, and happyHanukkah to everybody, everybody
that's out there, and happyMother's Day, yes.
Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
I think we're good so far.
We're good.
Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
I think we got that now.
You know we, we, we get allkinds of of data, you know, with
being the podcast and stuff andI've subscribed to, to
newsletters and this, that andthe other thing, just to kind of
see what's going on out thereand, um, what are the news
(01:12:56):
outlets?
You know they, they send us adaily type of thing and we got
some data on the most searchedgolfers, most Googled golfers
and for the last 20 years thenumber one golfer.
it shouldn't be surprising, buthe's been tight, of course.
(01:13:16):
So Google's been around for 20plus years and he's been longer
than that, yeah, and this yearhe was not the number one Google
golf.
Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
Which I'm not surprised.
I mean, he played what twoevents maybe Didn't get in
trouble?
No car accidents, no caraccidents, a couple surgeries,
yeah, but even then nobody knowsabout those, right.
If anything.
Nobody knows about those, right.
If anything, I'd be surprised,I don't know.
Maybe I would if Charlie wasmore Googled than he was.
Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Well, he wasn't on the list and it doesn't say
professional golfers, it justsays most Googled golfers.
Right, right and honestly, thismust be professional male
golfers, because I mean, if youthink, think about some of the
high profile female golfers andI get, so don't get me wrong
here.
Okay, Nothing, that's RickyFowler.
(01:14:14):
I mean I obviously charismatic,but he did have a great year.
But we're going to say GraysonMurray.
Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
He's still a fan favorite he is.
Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
But what about Nellie Korda?
What about?
I mean, yeah, you know what I'msaying.
I'm sure that maybe I'll lookinto it, but this has.
Oh, actually, nellie Cordy ison the list.
I thought she's number seven.
Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
See, you only went to top five.
Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Well, Ricky was 10.
Can't read.
Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
And Nellie's the only girl on there too.
Yeah, good for her.
Yes, and I'm only.
And we got some live golfers onthere.
Yeah, good for her.
Yeah, it's an anomaly, and wegot some live golfers on there.
Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
But I guess the way to get to number one is to get
arrested.
Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
Yeah, I mean that would get you up there.
I mean, I saw, so I did aHalloween Greenskeeper Revenge
tournament, okay, and it wasencouraged to wear a costume.
It was two-man scramble, so meand one of my members went to
play.
(01:15:30):
We didn't wear a costume, butthe two guys we got paired with
had costumes.
Guess what the costume was?
What was it?
It was a Scheffler orangejumpsuit and a John Daly orange
jumpsuit.
Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Oh my, that's funny, that's funny it was great.
Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
I think they won costume of the year.
I don't care what anybody elsewore.
Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
That's funny.
I mean, you could have wornCould have worn what Could have
worn your costume.
Could have worn what Could haveworn your costume.
Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
Could have worn your costume.
Nah, nah, don't even I knowwhere you're starting.
Don't even you need to put itback up again.
If they missed the last episode, they missed it, they gotta go
back and watch it yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
I can see what you're trying to do With your little
eyes.
Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
That's funny, though If they didn't, if they didn't
watch the last one, they yourlittle eyes.
That's funny, though If theydidn't watch the last one, they
got to go back and watch it.
Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
Well, that's up there for forever so they can go pull
it down.
Yeah, but anyway, all goodthings, make sure that you guys
are registering for the tour.
You know we're, and I know someearly bird specials are running
out over the next couple days.
Yep, you know, I think.
I think we're going to keep itgoing until probably the middle
(01:17:08):
of the month.
Just made an executive decision.
Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
And you know what's great about it Like even with me
, if I see a good tick of theearly bird price helping out,
then I'll keep going on, Maybeto the first event or the second
event.
You know, if it keeps bringingpeople in, it doesn't hurt.
Right, but you got a firstevent in February, right no,
(01:17:33):
last week in January, when westarted it up.
Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
We go yeah, so you're 30 days out.
Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
Yep, get it.
I'm excited, I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
I'm excited for it, are you?
Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
going out to Vegas.
I haven't decided yet.
We'll see what the boss tellsme.
What the big boss tells me, notDennis.
Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
I, not Dennis.
I understand you know SouthernIcebreakers this coming weekend,
man, yep, it's already aroundthe corner and so you know, I'll
probably I'll probably just doyou know record the interviews
and and upload them as part ofthe next episode.
(01:18:22):
Yep, I think, open there, we'lltalk about it.
But if you go up to Vegas,maybe do the same thing.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
Well, we'll make it work somewhere or another, we'll
figure it out.
Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
All right, my friend, that's all we got.
Better get some rest, becausewe have four or five days.
Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
What's that?
What's rest?
I'm already used to it.
Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
I don't even know, don't even know.
Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
All right, man Well again.
Like you said, happy HanukkahHappy.
Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Hanukkah.
Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Happy holidays.
Happy Hanukkah.
Happy holidays, happy new year,happy Mother's.
Day.
And.
Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
Happy birthday Jen.
Happy birthday, jen.
So Get ready, because in Fouror five days you're rolling.
Yes, sir, all the best to thefamily, family.
We'll talk to you soon likewise, likewise be safe.
Thank you.
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