Kimberly Norwood Part 2: Sightings, Letters, & Psychics

When The Shreveport Times released verbatim portions of troubling letters Kimberly Norwood had written months before her disappearance, it was the first time her parents, Bobby and Janice Norwood, had read them. It was another blow, they said, like the many they felt they’d been hit with at the hands of Harrison County Sheriff Bill Oldham. Out of desperation, the family brought in a Dallas psychic, but what she had to say, which included information that had been previously released in the local newspaper, led absolutely nowhere. But when Janice Norwood found out a neighbor had seen a motorcycle leaving the Caney Creek addition in Hallsville at the same time Kimberly is thought to have vanished, an employee of the family becomes a potential suspect. Part 2 of 3.

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Episode Transcript

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Before we get started, I'd liketo direct y'all to Ed Densil's interview with
Kimberly Norwood's mother Janis on his podcastUnfound. You won't find a more comprehensive
talk with Janis anywhere else on theInternet or your preferred podcast player. In
fact, I used Unfound as asource for this episode, so I recommend

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you give Unfound episode one ten alisten. It's titled Kimberly Norwood a Country
Mile. Will provide a link tothe YouTube in the show notes. While
you're at it. Subscribe and listento Unfound's entire catalog. There are hundreds
of episodes. The Gone Cold podcastsmay contain violent or graphics subject matter.

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Listener discretion is advised. After twelveyear old Kimberly Norwood vanished on Saturday May
twentieth, nineteen eighty nine from Hallsville, Texas, ten were high between the
missing girl's family and the Harrison CountySheriff's Office, particularly the sheriff himself,
Bill Oldham. Authorities had only conductedtwo official searches in the span of a

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month, leaving the Norwoods solely responsiblefor looking for Kimberly and pleading for the
public's help through the press a majorityof that time. It didn't go without
notice. Marshall, the county seatof Harrison County, is just over a
dozen miles northeast of Hallsville, andboth the area's newspaper, the Marshall News

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Messenger, and the residents became vocalproponents of the Norwood family. In fact,
in mid July nineteen eighty nine,around twenty Harrison County residents or radicals,
as Sheriff Oldham called them, gatheredoutside the courthouse to protest the good
Sheriff's refusal to allow outside help tocome to town. Said no to plenty,

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no outside search and recovery organizations,no Texas Rangers, no FBI.
The county was his, Sheriff BillOldham told the Norwoods at a meeting.
They recorded letters to the editor ofthe Marshall News Messenger, reflected area residence
frustration with law enforcement, and offeredscathing indictments of Sheriff Oldham. They considered

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Kimberly Norwood a runaway, and theywere conducting their investigation accordingly to the Norwoods.
It seemed the theory that she wasa runaway kept the department from realizing
the gravity of the situation. Afterall, runaways too are all in potential
grave danger. Say what they mayabout Sheriff Oldham and Chief Deputy Tom Finley,

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there was a deputy going above andbeyond, who was pouring his heart
and soul into the case and whowas readily willing to work with outsiders like
International Association for Stolen Children's Greg mnguel. Harrison County Sheriff's Deputy Clay Madrano was
invested in the case and even performedsome of his investigation while off the clock.

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His reports were meticulously detailed, unlikethe initial report filed by Chief Deputy
Finley, who didn't even bother todocument Kimberly's description or witness details such as
addresses, phone numbers, and evennames. While visiting Kimberly's school, Hallsville,

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Intermediate Deputy Madrano came upon letters inKimberly's locker that suggested she was struggling
with her home life. But thenotes were written months before she disappeared,
and according to Kimberly's school counselor,the problems the letters detailed had been worked
out between the twelve year old andher mother, Janie The letters fueled the

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sheriff's office opinion that Kimberly Norwood wasa runaway, in an act that can
be easily interpreted as passive aggression onthe part of the Harrison County Sheriff's Office.
Newspaper, the Shreveport Times, gottheir hands on copies of Kimberly's locker
letters and printed portions of the evidenceverbatim. I've been having some family problems,

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an October nineteen eighty eight letter obtainedby a deputy from Kimberly Norwood's locker
read when the letters were printed forthe first time in a mid July Shreeveport
Times newspaper article. It was alsothe first time Janie and Bobby Norwood,
her parents, had heard anything aboutletters. My mom hates me and I

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hate her. Promised not to tell. The October nineteen eighty eight letter continued.
Others were quoted as saying, thisweek has been the worst ever.
I feel like crud. My momtold me she was going to send me
to a stupid penitentiary. She treatsme like crud. And another I feel
like killing myself or either running away. PS, don't tell anyone. These

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letters were signed kay Kim or Kimberly. Deputy Claimadrano's report indicates that one of
Kimberly's classmates said that another classmate whodidn't like Kimberly, wrote the notes and
put them in her locker. Twomore children also reported this, adding that
the letters were purposefully written in Kimberly'shandwriting. However, others confirmed that the

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handwriting was Kimberly's. Rather than consideringthem relatively normal writings of a twelve year
old going through the physical and emotionalchanges that come with age, the Sheriff's
department appeared to have taken the lettersas hard evidence that Kimberly ran away,
a theory they'd been working since theget go. The last three friends who'd

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seen her had mentioned that Kimberly didn'twant to go home that day because she
didn't want to get in trouble fornot cleaning her room, and that was
the seed for the theory. Butas far as her daughter running away from
home was concerned, Janis Norwood beggedto differ. Her daughter's home life was
normal, as many attested to,and Kimberly was looking forward to some upcoming

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horse shows and a road trip toMissouri, the Norwoods had planned. The
days and weeks continued with no signof the missing girl. The disappearance of
Kimberly Norwood caught the attention of amajor television host, Oprah Winfrey. On

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Monday, August fourteenth, nineteen eightynine, kimberly story and the plight of
her parents gained national attention when theywere interviewed on Winfrey's daytime talk show.
The episode was a special about missingchildren, and on it, Janis made
a plea, we miss her,we need her, we love her.

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Please take care of her, Pleaselet us know, let her come home.
They hoped someone out there watching wouldsee Kimberly's photograph and call in reporting
they'd seen her. Twenty six newleads were obtained by the Harrison County Sheriff's
office as a direct result of theshow, though the department kept the details

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to themselves. By September nineteen eightynine, the cops were continuing to adhere
to the runaway theory. There hadbeen plenty of unconfirmed sightings of Kimberly Norwood
reported to authorities by this time,but on the second week of September,
someone who knew the twelve year oldcame forward. The missing girl's ex sister

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in law. Amy had told HarrisonCounty Chief Deputy Clay Madrano that should he
find Kimberly, to keep her fromgoing back home. She later walked back
that statement when Anne McAdams of theMarshall News Messenger interviewed her, saying what
she meant was the girl and herparents needed to undergo counseling first. Then,

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on Sunday, September tenth, nineteeneighty nine, Amy came forward and
told police that at one thirty thatafternoon, she'd seen Kimberly at a convenience
store called Jr's Food Mart in WhiteOak, Texas, a small town in
Greg County and not twenty miles westof the missing girls home in Hallsville.

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There'd been an unspecified number of othersupposed sidings in Greg County by folks who
didn't know her. According to Gregmnguel, an investigator for the International Association
for Children, Amy said her exsister in law had cut her hair and
gained a little weight. She wassitting in the passenger seat of a gray

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Primer colored sports car, perhaps aTransam or Camaro, and when Amy called
out to this girl, who wasabout fifteen feet away from her. She
said, a twenty six to thirtyyear old white male jumped in the driver's
seat, started the engine, andsped off in a hurry, heading west
down Highway eighty. Amy told policeshe attempted to tail the Primer gray sports

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car, but couldn't keep up asit continued to accelerate. The man,
Amy told police, was about sixfeet tall, with long, dirty hair,
and had a tattoo on his bigarms. When Harrison County Sheriff's Deputy
Vicky Stanfield questioned the clerks working atJr's Food Mart, they told the law

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woman they'd not seen the gray Primersports car, nor anyone fitting the description
of the two people within. Alsoin September of nineteen eighty nine, a
self proclaimed psychic from the Dallas FortWorth area offered her clairvoyant services to the
Norwood family. Though Gone Cold rarelydetails the often predatory dealings the families of

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missing persons and unsolved murders have withpsychics. In the case of Kimberly Norwood,
it is something virtually impossible to omitfor reasons that hopefully will become clear
as Kimberly's classmates and friends headed intotheir first days of junior high. The
Norwood family enlisted the help of socalled psychic Sharon cape Hart from the Dallas

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Fort Worth area when their desperation dickedhated they try something different, anything different.
Kape Part, who described Kimberly's disappearanceas her toughest case ever, determined
or whatever you call it, thatKimberly had been approached by two males driving

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a dark colored, perhaps blue,late model car with out of state license
plates. At that time. KPart said she was abducted. One of
these people, the twelve year oldknew. Kp Part asserted through their association
or friendship with her brother. Therewere two locations in the area where she

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found Kimberly and the strangers had been. K Part said one of those locations
was on Lake of the Pines ata camp off Farm to Market Road four
point fifty. In fact, katePart said she believed Kimberly to be in
that area at the present time.She did not believe the girl was a

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runaway like police did. She wenton and instead believes Kimberly cannot return of
her own free will. What kapePart called a lot of people were involved
in the disappearance, the abduction,which involved drugs and Satanism. It just
so happens a cult awareness seminar wastouring Texas psychiatric hospitals, churches, and

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hotel conference halls at the time,at the height of the Satanic panic era.
Anyway, you would have had outstandingodds placing a bet that the psychic
working a missing person's case was goingto get around to mentioning devil worship at
some point. But it's hardly theonly laughable claim. Kpe Art made the

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blue vehicle with out of town platesshe supposedly saw in a vision, Well,
that was information published in the newspapersin the days following the disappear Spearance.
A deputy, presumably Chief Deputy TomFinley, told the Marshall News Messenger
within days that he saw a bluevehicle with Colorado plates leaving the area around

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the time Kimberly was last seen.Interestingly, self proclaimed psychic Sharon Capehart commented
about how much cooperation she was gettingfrom Harrison County authorities. This was hardly
the last time a psychic entered thecase. On Friday, October sixth,

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nineteen eighty nine, the short livedtelevision show Missing Reward, hosted by Stacy
Keach, aired a segment about Kimberly'scase, which they'd come to Caney Creek
and filmed in August, and acouple days later there was more activity.
The country music singer, perhaps bestknown for his song The Gambler, was

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related to Janis Norwood. After Sharoncape Hart was retained to help the Norwoods,
Jennis and her son Ricky drove toNashville, Tennessee, hoping to meet
with her distant cousin, Kenny Rogersto see if he could help somehow.
They arrived in Music City on Octoberthe eighth, but because he was preparing

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to mc the Country Music Awards,Janis and Ricky were unable to meet with
Kenny himself. It was unfortunate timing. The CMAS were the next day,
but they did speak with the singer'sbrother, Leland. He told them he
would personally come to Marshall, twelvemiles from Hallsville after the awards were over.

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Leland didn't know how he could help, but he was willing to try
and would go on to discuss hisfindings with his brother. After he learned
all he could about Kimberly's case.After becoming up to date, Leland Rogers
talked to Kenny, who sent outCA Keryl Kennedy. Carol Kennedy was a

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radio talk show host and lecturer.Her most notable lecture, The Psychic Detective,
all about how law enforcement works withpsychics, all the time, behind
the scenes and out of the earshotof the public. When Kennedy arrived in
Hallsville, she met Leland and HarrisonCounty Sheriff's Office Deputy Vicky Stanfield at the

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Caney Creek Edition. Together they walkedthe roads and explored the pines. It's
unclear what was discussed or if anythingcame of the psychics visit, but it
isn't difficult to guess. In thelast publicized lead of nineteen eighty nine,
investigators were looking over a tip thatcame all the way from Lee County,

(15:48):
Florida. In December, an anonymouscall came into the National Center for Missing
and Exploited Children after a two minuteTV segment broadcasted on Monday, December eleventh.
The caller said they'd seen a kidmatching Kimberly Norwood's description at a grade
school. There Upon hearing the news, Harrison County Sheriff's Office Deputy Claire Howell

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wasted no time sending information about themissing person's case and photographs of Kimberly to
authorities. There nothing came of it. By December, the Norwoods had a
toll free tip line up and running, listed in directories as the Kimberly Norwood
tip Line. Several leads came through, but not a one panned out.

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On May second, nineteen ninety,the Marshall News Messenger reported that the Sheriff's
department was releasing the files in theKimberly Norwood investigation. Lieutenant Frank Garrett said
the files, which would be releasedin two weeks, did not indicate Kimberly
was abducted. Janis Norwood said thatthe files had been withheld from the family

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and accused the Sheriff's office of portrayingthem as child molesters. If you lived
in Hallsville or Marshall, or perhapsanywhere in Harrison County and had your ear
to the ground, that last linefrom the newspaper article would have come as
no surprise. Rumors about the casewere rampant on the other hand. If

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you'd been hanging out under a rockor were not from the area, the
article was shocking. Janis told theNews Messenger that she heard that letters and
drawings were turned over to the Sheriff'soffice by a girlfriend of Kimberly, who
said the missing girl had penned anddrew them, and that they depicted sexual

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abuse. Sheriff's Lieutenant Garrett commented thatpsychiatrists antaalized drawings from Kim's room submitted by
different friends. Sheriff Bill Oldham saidin a press conference that those professionals had
determined there was a possibility the missingtwelve year old was abused, and that
the letters and drawings were proven tohave been created at the hands of Kimberly

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Norwood. The truth will come out, but they are planting doubt in people's
minds and accusing us of sexual abuse, Janis said of both sheriff's deputies and
the rumors going around. Private investigatorTim Mullis, who the Norwoods hired out
of Houston, wouldn't comment on anyallegations of sexual abuse, but he did

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have one thing to say about thesubject. If I find out anything indicating
this is true, I will doeverything to see that the responsible party goes
to jail. Meanwhile, Mullis hadbeen following a lead that led to trouble.
A seventeen year old boy apparently hadbeen going around telling folks that Kimberly
was pregnant, had run off witha boyfriend and was living with him in

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Longview. When Mullins was able tolocate and question the teenager at his place
of employment, Janis said deputies showedup and threatened to arrest him on harassment
charges. The boy's parents didn't wantanyone interviewing him. Lieutenant Garrett denied that

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claim, however, and said theysimply showed up and told the persistent PI
to move along. Mullus claimed acouple weeks later that kim would resurface within
a short period of time, apretty bold statement that obviously did not happen.
And while the PIS and the HarrisonCounty Sheriff's Office continually but at heads,

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it's important to note that Tim Mullisand his brother Buck Mullis, with
whom he shared a private investigation firm, said the Sheriff's office got one thing
right. Kimberly was not happy athome. He spoke with all her peers,
Mullus said, and every one ofthem reported that, plus some evidence

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the PIS collected, suggested that Kimberlywas upset the day she disappeared and was
afraid to do something she had planned. Nothing, of course, can be
discounted, but it's also important toremember that the twelve year old had taken
none of her possessions and none ofher money. Kimberly had asked if one

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of her friends could spend the night, while her mother said no. The
three friends she was walking with thatday said they were planning to walk with
Kimberly all the way home and hangout for a bit, all of which
seems at odds with her having plansto go through with something like running away
on the way there. The friends, it's reported, only turned around because

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they got hot and decided they didn'twant to walk another mile. At this
point. Tipsters from across the LoneStar State and in California, Utah,
Florida, and South Carolina, toname a few you had reported seeing Kimberly
Norwood, but it appears none actuallyhad. As the one year anniversary of

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Kimberly Norwood's disappearance came and went,tensions between the Norwood family and the Harrison
County Sheriff's Office were at a feverpitch. While according to some Harrison County

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Sheriff Bill Oldham referred to the Norwoodsas suspects who were guilty of possibly destroying
evidence and not reporting leads which couldlead to the discovery or whereabouts of Kimberly
Norwood. They saw him as unreasonable, stubborn, and unempathetic. Again,

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the Sheriff's office considered Kimberly a runaway, possibly because she suffered abuse at home,
and the Norwoods considered her disappearance anabduction. Gregmnguel of the International Association
for Stolen Children seemed to be somewherein the middle. He believed Kimberly was

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offered a ride from someone she knewand accepted whomever this person was then ran
off with her. It wasn't clearwhat Mengel meant when he said he believed
Kimberly is concerned and possibly thinks shewon't be welcome back home because of things
that have happened to her since herabduction. Greg Minguel too wrote a few

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letters to the Marshall News Messenger.In an attempt to steer the focus back
on Kimberly and away from the dramaand perhaps egos that fueled a lack of
cooperation. The Norwoods had many justifiablereasons not to trust law enforcement, and
although nothing has ever been publicly releasedor proven, it's certainly possible the Sheriff's

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office had valid reasons not to trustthem. While it's unclear exactly where Sheriff
Bill Oldham's heart was in the grandscheme of the investigation, it is abundantly
clear that his ego and pride gotin the way in Kimberly's case. In
nineteen ninety, Hallsville had a populationof just over two thousand, while not

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totally discounting the number of residents innearby Marshall and Longview around twenty three thousand
and seventy thousand residents, respectively.The sheriff was likely exaggerating when he claimed
the department had interviewed more than onethousand witnesses. That's a lot. Then,

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after publicizing that he would release Kimberly'sfile, Oldham walked it back,
explaining that investigation of possible criminal conductis being pursued, notublicly releasing Kimberly's file
was, without a doubt the rightcall, but the back and forth,
and certainly the public insinuations seemed likea series of orchestrated moves that most lawmen

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would consider unprofessional and beneath them.It's important to note that no charges were
ever brought against a member of theNorwood family for any kind of abuse,
and to be fair to the HarrisonCounty Sheriff's Office of the time, Deputy
Clay Madrano was working the case diligently, going above and beyond what was his

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duty. All of Caney Creek,particularly the Norwood properties, were extensively searched.
Again when the National Center for Missingand Exploited Children and the International and
Texas Associations for Stolen Children came aboardin the late summer of nineteen eighty nine,

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a cadaver dog picked up absolutely nosign of human decomposition, as was
the case with another such canine theprevious month. Neither beast nor man in
fact, had found even a clueat or around the area where Kimberly Norwood
disappeared. Some time before, officialswith the International Association for Stolen Children and

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a man named Greg Monroe who helpedto build Caney Creek's roads and who knew
the Norwoods all expressed concern that asthe Norwood case receives wider publicity, the
vultures will begin to circle. TheNorwoods have already received calls from experts in
finding lost people who for a fee, will be glad to look. Monroe

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told the Marshall News Messenger. Whatthey'll do is drink beer on the money
the Norwoods are able to raise.The baffling disappearance had drawn in a lot
of outside attention as the first anniversaryapproached and the Sheriff's office could no longer
refuse the help. Texas Ranger RonnieGriffith had long been aware of the case,

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as Harrison County Sheriff's Deputy Clay Madranooften sought the council of other law
enforcement professionals, including him. RangerGriffith later told Janis Norwood. She told
Unfound podcast host ed Denzil that awoman who lives in the Caney Creek subdivision
saw two people leaving the area ona motorcycle and the girl riding on the

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back. She swore was Kimberly,a man who had worked for the family
and was living in a small traileron the Norwood property at the time.
Twenty six year old Jay Bailey rodea motorcycle and of course knew Kimberly.
On the day Kimberly vanished, andjust after she spoke with her on the
phone, her mother, Janice andsister Pam headed into Marshall to do some

(26:56):
quick shopping and pick up dinner.Earlier, Jay had called Janis and asked
for twenty bucks. She often kepthis money at his request so he wouldn't
carelessly spend it. Jay needed themoney, he told Janis because his dad
was in town and they were goingto a fish fry. Before heading out

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to Marshall, Janis gave her husbandand Kimberly's father, Bobby, the twenty
dollars to give to Jay. Later, however, the Norwoods discovered Jay Bailey's
father was not in town, andinstead he needed the money for a party
he was going to, presumably forbooze. Maybe it was a strange thing
to lie about, and maybe not. It definitely doesn't have to be taken

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as nefarious as it's possible. Hesimply didn't want them to know he was
going out to get drunk or highor whatever. We could find no details
about this party or the possibility thatKimberly was seen there, but it appears
Texas Ranger Ronnie Griffith was quite interestedin this lead, as he rightfully should

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have been anyway, As Janis andPam were just about to the Marshall City
limits, they passed Jay Bailey onhis motorcycle heading back toward Hallsville, which
would have placed him at Caney Creekbetween five twenty and five thirty PM.
The woman who saw the motorcycle leavingthe Caney Creek subdivision was hypnotized, and

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while under hypnosis, Ranger Griffith apparentlytold Janis Norwood she came up with three
or four of the characters in thelicense plate number. It's unknown if this
lead went anywhere, but Janis atthe time didn't think Jay had anything to
do with Kimberly's disappearance. Jay Bailey, to be fair, never inserted himself

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into the case, and he continuedto work for the Norwoods for quite some
time after. In fact, hewas one of their most trusted employees.
And all that Jay's criminal record showsis that he doesn't like wearing his seat
belt. While Jay didn't insert himselfinto the case, others certainly did.

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It wasn't only the self proclaimed psychicswe spoke of in this episode, but
also another kind of rock star psychic, particularly in Texas. While he did
plenty of further damage to Kimberly Norwood'scase, a case that was already in
sort of a shambles, it wasnothing compared to the further damage caused by

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a so called missing person's advocate that'snext time on Gone Cold. Kimberly Norwood
would be forty seven years old today. She's a white female with brown eyes
and brown hair that can appear tohave a red tint in light. She
stood approximately five feet five inches talland weighed about one hundred pounds. She

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has a two inch scar on herabdomen from kidney surgery. When she was
last seen, Kimberly was wearing awhite T shirt with either a Teddy bear
or red and black cows on thefront, dark blue jeans, and black
Kead's tennis shoes. She was alsowearing a black bow in her hair,
a Swatch watch, and a goldring with an aquamarine stone. If you

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have any information about the disappearance ofKimberly Rochelle Norwood Police call the Harrison County
Sheriff's Office at nine zero three ninethree five for eight. Michelle Lee Richardson,
whose case we talked about at thetop of the episode, is a
white female and was sixteen years oldwhen she went missing from Palestine, Texas.

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She stood five feet six inches tall, weighed about one hundred and fifty
pounds, had reddish blonde hair,and blue eyes. Michelle occasionally wore glasses
and has a U shaped scar onher left arm. Michelle was last seen
wearing a pink and white pullover sweatshirt, pink jogging pants, and black sneakers.

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contact the Anderson County Sheriff's Department atnine zero three seven two nine six zero
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