The Disappearance of Elisa Roberson Part 4: Debacle

In 2016, Elisa Roberson’s case saw the most activity it had since 1989. First, Texas Equusearch came to Aransas Pass to search property once owned by original detectives’ prime suspect. But nothing was found. Then, police took a different approach and used ground penetrating radar and jackhammers, presumably, to break up concrete in the garage under the former Roberson home. Although it was reported in the press that nothing was found a few years later, one person – the prime suspect’s daughter – continued to perpetuate the rumor that Elisa’s body was found. Was it to protect her father, whether or not she knew something?

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Episode Transcript

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The Gone Cold podcasts may contain violentor graphics subject matter. Listener discretion is
advised. In the summer of twentysixteen, when the Search and Recovery Organization
Texas ECUSEARCH came to Aransas Pass,Texas, they used ground penetrating radar and
cleared brush on properties owned by RobertEarl Green, or Bob as he was

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better known. He's the father ofDebbie Green, the ten year old girl
who Alisa Roberson was supposed to havemet halfway between their homes the day she
vanished. Fifty nine years old.At the time of Alisa Roberson's disappearance in
August of nineteen eighty nine, Bobbecame the prime suspect in the case in

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the eyes of Aransas Pass Police LieutenantLinda Thompson and Captain of Detectives Mike Thompson.
But twenty seven years after Elisa waslast seen on her way to meet
Debbie at Key Burger Elementary School,there was a new detective in town,
Captain Kyle Rhodes, and a newTexas ranger working alongside him, Antonio or

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Tony Deluna. Early that summer,their focus was on properties owned by Bob
Green, but when Texas exusearch returned, the focus shifted. In August of
twenty sixteen, both Elisa's sister Rubyand her mother Marina, traveled to Aransas
Pass to memorialize her years earlier intwo thousand and nine, a tree was

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planted on the front lawn of KeyBurger Elementary and under it a plaque that
reads, in memory of Alisa Robersonand for all the lost children, may
they find their way back home.When Ruby posted on Facebook that she was
coming back to Aransas Pass from Idahoto visit the memorial, she was contacted

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by a friend who worked at aLoewe's home improvement store. The company wanted
to Controy tribe, and upon Marinaand Ruby's journey back to the bayside city
that held so much pain for them, the organization Lowe's Heroes placed a red
ornate bench facing the plaque, araised flower bed with red flowers and red

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mulch, and hung hummingbird feeders andpotted flowers on shepherd hooks. The upgrade
took place on the morning of Augustsixth, twenty sixteen, during a small
ceremony of about twenty or so localfolks, including friends and even some of
Elisa's teachers. The event was emotional, a somber reminder that they knew virtually

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nothing about what happened to the thirteenyear old girl. Immediately after the almost
funereal event, things took a darkturn and an old friend's years long vendetta
came to its culmination. The onlyone that knows what happened is the doer,

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and all I can prove is twothings. I can prove that he's
a pedophile by court record, andI can prove he as a liar.
Most pedophiles don't kill, and Idon't think he intended to kill Alisa.
I believe he accidentally killed her.During the initial investigation, former Araansis Pass

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Police Lieutenant Linda Thompson told us BobGreen quickly came on the radar as a
person of interest. Bob had knownMarina and their kids for years, and
in fact was once their landlord.Marina told us about their long friendship.
We used to live at mister Green'shouse I rented, he have a rent

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a rental at eleven before that,and my daughter hang around a loud at
his house, just spend the night. And then when I moved from that
house from his house to the otherhouse at the witness treat Then he and

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David used to come and pick upmy daughters to take them to his house,
and then when they finished playing,he used to bring them back.
Was sometimes that daughter Ruby and Elissaspend the night at their house with Devi.
She will always ask you, youcall ma plu with my dolls.

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Can you come and play with mydolls? You'll know. For about two
years, they'd rented out the downstairsof the Green family home. Bob sometimes
helped out the Robersons, and evenafter they moved out of his house on
Eleventh Street and into the above garageapartment on South Whitney, Alisa and Ruby

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played with his daughter Debbie. Bobwould give the kids rides to and from
home often, but according to Marinaand Ruby, his own family implicated him
and Alisa's disappearance. Your wife toldme Bob is not the man everybody thinks
he is. But that day afterLisa went missing, whether it was the

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day after or a few days after, I don't know exact timing, but
Debbie, both Debbie and her momtold my mom and me I was there.
I was always with, you know, my mom after this happened,
but because she was so scared ofletting her kids out of her sight,
so she had us like we werestuck to her like glue. We weren't
allowed to go like we used togo. And so I remember being there,

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and I remember mister Debbie and Terryboth saying, we think Bob had
something to do with it, becausehe's been acting really strange. According to
both Olinda and Mike Thompson, ransispast captain of detectives. At the time,
complaints against Bob Green had been madeon a couple occasions, accusing him
of indecency with a child and molestation. I weren't chases on him. Regarding

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another friend in the community, Debbie'solder sisters half sisters, the guy was
a pedophile. Ulessa would not havethought anything about Hoffman car with him.
No one had reported screaming, andthere were no signs of a struggle at
or near the area where the bloodhoundClement Time lost Elisa sent to the day

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following her disappearance, Elisa, bynearly every indication, got into a vehicle
with someone she knew and trusted.Considering those unignorable circumstances and the fact that
Alisa was to have met his daughterthe day she went missing, Lieutenant Thompson
decided Bob had better be scrutinized closely. Bob, of course, didn't like

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that. Bob hated me, absolutelydespised me. And it was obvious from
the time I first met him,which was on Elisa's case, that he
damasured him like a woman and aphysician authority period. And when that woman
kept coming back and coming back andcoming back, wanted to talk to his
daughter, wanted to talk to him, wanted to talk to Terry, it

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just made him extremely hostile. ThenI arrest him for another little girl's outcry
and that child's and says, no, no, no, we're not going
to do this. I'm not goingto push it. I can't. Everybody's
got the right to be confronted bytheir accuser, and if your accuser we
can't, then they can't. AndI got where I wouldn't talk to Debbie

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with Bob ran I would make Terrybe the parent. He said, well,
you can't do that. I said, no, I have to have
his parents permission, and I said, she's a witness. I can get
a court order if you want todo it that way, and if I
get a court order, then youignored, Terry will be in the room
when I talk to her, Andso he would give a little bit.

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As far as Bob's alibi, bothLinda and Mike Thompson told us the man
did himself no favors. He hada shop two blocks up south from where
he actually lived. According to him, he'd been working in the shop and
fell asleep in his car. Therewas to mention that he was a smother

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property buying the law or whatever hewas doing. It's August in South Texas.
You're talking ninety five degrees. Mikewas able with the help of a
climatologist to come up with it wouldhave been around one hundred and thirty five
one hundred and forty degrees in thatcar, in that shed at that time

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on a Sunday afternoon. I don'tthink he's all asleep in no car.
Though online calculators and controlled studies veryslightly. The temperature fluctuated between ninety and
ninety six degrees fahrenheit during this period, and at the low end it was
one hundred and thirty three degrees inthat car. After sixty minutes, Bob

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in other words, we never wokeup. It would have just cooked his
brain. So that's the two thingsI can prove about him is that he's
a liar and he's a pedophile.Bob Green was prosecuted on another case,
the charge in decency with a childwild. According to court records and the
Texas Department of Public Safety, hetook a plea deal and got six years

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probation. Debbie Green told us thatthis was the case in which the little
girl recanted and that her father's sentencewas vacated. However, we've been unable
to find any documents suggesting he wasexonerated. Marina Roberson didn't know much of
what occurred concerning Bob Green, thecharges and allegations, and she didn't believe

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his wife and daughter's accusations. Afterall, he'd always been good to her
and the kids. No, No, he saw friends, he saw friends.
My friend would never hold Lisa andI remember hearing rumors about mister.
But of course my mom thought hewas the nicest guy because he would bring

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her groceries and help her out asshe needed a bride, and he would
take us kids, you know,to get ice cream. You know,
he would take us to the beachand he would have us drive his smart
like but he would sit us onhis lap and then looking. You know
when I see think back like that, that's just stuff you just don't do
with someone else's kids, like littlegirls. You just don't do that.

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But I guess nobody was. Everyonejust thought it was nice, Oh,
mister Green. You know. Fordecades, Marina continued to believe her abusive
ex boyfriend, Ralph Gonzales was responsiblefor Elisa's disappearance. We found out even
more details about Bob green disturbing allegations. In fact, we spoke with Debbie

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Green back in October and then againshortly before the release of the last episode.
She vehemently espouses the theory that Marinakilled Alisa during a fight, that
she went to hit Elisa as shewas rebelliously leaving the apartment. Alisa fell
down the stairs, and Debbie toldme, brok herneck and died. That's

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what I think happened, and Ithink she's still in that house. It's
a specific, though entirely speculative scenario, and it omits the witness accounts of
several wildly credible folks who saw Elisawalking toward Key Burger Elementary School that day.
Debbie was not able to provide prooffor anything she claims to be true,

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and answers every challenge with a refusalto investigate. She employs the conspiracy
theorist's tactic of bombardment of unprovable informationin her attempts to reverse the challenge.
Every time she was asked to proveacclaim, the evidence, all of which
she says she has, is justout of reach. No matter what fact

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or differing corroborating account I gave Debbie, it was never right, only she
was correct. Normally, I'd ignoredDebbie Green completely, but her year's long
harassment campaign against Ruby, Marina andLinda Thompson has had a negative effect on
them, so it's necessary we breakdown just a few more claims that Debbie

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likes to repeat on rapid fire whenshe gets started. Bob had been mowing
a customer's grass during the time Elisadisappeared, Debbie said, but she'd forgotten
these people's names, the only namesshe seems to have forgotten. It's unclear
if she believes he was mowing duringthe time she says Alisa disappeared between three

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thirty and four, or the timecorroborated by virtually everyone else, and facts
between five thirty and six. It'salso unclear how or why these witnesses to
Bob Mowing are more credible and correctthan the several others Debbie dismisses, you
know, the high school secretary andthe decorated World War Two veteran. She

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also continually dismisses the memory of folksaround the time, everyone who doesn't subscribe
to her version anyway. The managingeditor of the ransis past progress. Mary
Molina Cole, along with several otherfolks, must have been mistaken when she
remembered Marina and Ruby coming into thenewspaper's office the day following Elisa's disappearance,

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distraught and frantic. They were thereto get Elisa's photograph in the paper.
But Debbie's theory anyway didn't materialize outof thin air. At least that's what
I've been told. The theory thatI have, and that Christine has,
and that many people have, isthat indeed Marina was mad at Lisa that

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day, and that somehow, tryingto discipline her or whatever, by accident,
she hit her too hard. Shefell down the stairs and she's buried
underneath that cement in that garage.And that's what I think. That's kind
of what the sonar showed when theysearched. At least that's what I was
told. And from the person Iknow who poured the concrete, that's what

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they suspect too. And they admittedto pouring that concrete because Marina asked them
to. Two weeks after, likeAugust fifteenth, Alisa disappeared August sixth.
This this person had lots of concretebecause of their job, they didn't have
to pay for it. And itwasn't a whole lot of concrete. It

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wasn't the whole garage. It waslike a six by six or six x
ten little area, just enough toset a washer and dryer on, if
you get what I'm saying, Likeit's not the whole dirt for garage,
just one spot in that garage thatis where this concrete was poured. Okay,
that's the story. And I knowthis person personally, And if you

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weren't recording this, Like if Iknew this part wasn't going to go on
air, I would tell you whothat person is. But I don't want
to put that part on air,because I don't know if I'll get in
trouble for it. This person isstill alive. They can't prosecute him because
the statute limitations has ran out foraccessory. This person is elderly, very

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sick. Forget it. I'll justsay it because Linda's already got it all
over her Facebook. It's fine,it's my dad, Okay, it was
my dad who helped her. Itwas the spot this story goes where Marina
buried Elisa, right under the nosesof trained cadavergogs who were still in town
at the time. She explained tome the role Lieutenant Linda Thompson played and

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why. I don't know the wholecircumstance and the whole situation, but basically,
the theory was for this person wasthat she had three other kids that
she needed to take care of andit was an accident, and so they
felt bad for her and they helpedher out. Linda Thompson has always had

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a vendetta against my dad for whateverreason. I'm not sure. We all
went to church together. My daddid not go to church, but my
mom did. We all went tothe LDS Church, the Mormon Church,
and We also went to sembly aGod sometimes too, but that was our
main church. But she's had avendetta against my dad since day one.
Okay. Debbie could not, however, offer any explanation as to why Linda

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would be so obsessed with persecuting herfather, and told me Bob had no
idea why either. In the caseof the little girl that recanted her story
about Bob Green's sexual abuse, Debbieoffered up, this, that's all bullshit.
All of that is bullshit. Itwas all unfounded because Linda Thompson paid
her five thousand dollars to say mydad molested her when me and my mom

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were in Virginia visiting my aunt andwe come back, my dad's in jail.
Well he did it whatever they madehim do. Me and my mom
had left and came to Iowa.A couple of years later. This girl
goes back to court and says,yeah, I was paid by Linda Thompson
to say this and recanted, andeverything was dropped on my dad at that

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point, like wiped out because shewas able to prove that she lied and
that wasn't actually what happened. AfterPart three of Elisa's story aired, Debbie
began texting me, at first furiousas we texted back and forth. However,
she calmed down and we discussed againwhat Gone Cold had found out through

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our research and interviews, and howthat was in stark contrast to what she
believed. Apparently, Captain Kyle Rhodeshas been very forthcoming with the information he
is collected and investigation with Both Debbieand the person were calling Sharon. It's
because, Debbie said in a text, they and a woman, Christine,

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were the only ones keeping Elisa's casealive. Many of the details that Debbie
told me about the current investigation shegot straight from the captain himself. She
said she saw police files during thesupposed current investigation. Debbie says, anyway,
our text conversations were about as productiveas our phone calls. Again,

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I found myself agreeing with a fewof Debbie's perspectives and she could offer no
proof for any But when she shareda text conversation between her and a close
family member, things took a differentturn. This person was telling Debbie about
the sexual abuse they suffered at thehands of her father, Bob. This

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person said likes girls and boys.He touched me, They said further down
in the conversation. I know youwon't believe me, because you believe what
you want. I never told anyoneuntil now, they added, and went
on to say they never let theirchildren or grandchildren around him, something Debbie

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acknowledges in the text chain to betrue. I know what he's capable of
doing, this family member said.Though she loved the close family member that
had just opened up about Bob sexuallyabusing them, she wasn't sure she believed
them. Debbie told me, I'mparaphrasing there only to omit this person's identity.

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This is verbatim. He has neverliked my dad and was jealous of
the way I grew up. Thatwas the point I began trying to end
my correspondence with Debbie. She is, however, very persistent. I was,
and still am, appalled at Debbie'scontinual belief of the many accusations against

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her father, and this particular instancehappening in real time was especially difficult to
swallow. All of this aside.It is possible Bob Green is not responsible
for the disappearance of Alisa Roberson,But before we get into any of that,
the preceding was the seed for thetactics and line of investigation. Aransas

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Pass Police Captain Kyle Rhodes and TexasRanger Tony Deluna would eventually employ. Although
Ruby and Marina had maintained a relativelyfriendly, albeit distant relationship with Debbie Green
over the years, in the latetwo thousands, everything changed abruptly. In

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two thousand and nine, after thetree was planted and memorial plaque placed outside
Key Burger Elementary School and everyone wenttheir separate ways, Debbie began harassing Ruby
and Marina. I prayer, andI her god and praying and as her
god. You know everything. Youknow when Alisa left? Who who took

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her? What happened? What didthey take her her? She said?
And was shown me and showed me, I said. And then David Green
start doing some crazy things. DavidGreen starts saying that that I did that
Elisa never left the house that evening, and that Ruby and all my kill

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knows that I did it, thatI have something to do with her disappearance,
and that Elisa got killed in myhome, and that Ruby was covering
from me, and oh my god, oh my god, what is she
saying that? And that's just myanswer, meaning it was the moment,

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it seemed obvious to Marina that LieutenantThompson might have been onto something with Bob.
Why else would Debbie Green act thisway? She thought, It's almost
like it's so just so weird howit started to happen, And I think,
I can't Okay, So I rememberDebbie. I can't remember if this
was a conversation with her, herand I both direct or if it was

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that somebody told me what she saidthat And now I can't remember because things
were pretty chaotic at that time.But from what I understand, she said
that after she went missing, shecame to our house. Supposed she came
to our house and found a sawa bat in the basement that had blood
on it. I think that's whereit started. I think she was talking

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to some people, either the detectivesor someone, and said I saw this
bloody bat in the house, becauseI kept hearing something about a bloody bat,
and I thought, well, Debbie, I don't even remember her coming,
you know, back to the house. It was the beginning. Ruby
told us of a year's long harassmentcampaign, and one that would lee the

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Aransas Pass Police to change course.When Ruby and Marina arrived in Aransas Pass
in August of twenty sixteen for thetwenty seventh anniversary ceremony. Police Captain Kyle

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Rhodes and Texas Ranger Tony Deluna requestedto speak with them at the station.
They agreed, of course, andRhodes and Doluna grilled them both on their
memories of the day. Alisa vanished. Ruby remembers it well, and when
they found out we were coming,the police decided the Texas Ranger and the

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captain that's over the case asked ifwe'd be willing to do an interview and
talk to them and kind of revisita lot of the facts, and so
that's when they questioned us. Andwell, at some point they'd ask her,
would you be willing to take apolygraphic? She said yes. Revisiting
Elisa's nineteen eighty nine disappearance was hard, but she and Marina came out the

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other end of the five hour interviewrelatively unscathed. The next day, August
sixth, the memorial ceremony for Elisatook place. It was early in the
day, but the emotional impact ofthe event drained Marina and Ruby. They
were undoubtedly vulnerable, which was theperfect storm of circumstances for ramsis past Police

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Captain Kyle Rhodes and Texas Ranger TonyDeluna to swoop in and seize the opportunity.
Marina is still traumatized by that morning. So okay, okay, so
we'll leave it. We are aswe are, unsuspected of what was about
to happen. At eight thirty,we can put the memorial. And there

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was a lot of people on theplanted some flowers and put a pretty pretty
bench, you know, and wegot together over there right after, like
like at nine o'clock or before nine. Listen, we have not even had

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breakfast. I have not even hada coup of coffee. That morning,
right about probably before nine, therangers colored Ruby and said we're coming over.
We're taking you, bringing your guyto the police station. They said,
and said okay. Then they showup and they told me and now

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we was that we'll start. Therewas our friends and one took me in
in his pickup and the other onetook Ruby in another car and he went
next to me, take us tothe police station, and they take room.
They took rubyfore and my god,and it was taking me. It

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was taking a long long time,or should I said, I wonder what's
happening in there? It took,it took. It felt it felt like
like three hours that they have Rubyin there. That's how it felt.
You know, I'm not saying thatit was three hours, but that how

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it felt. And we have nothad any breakfast or anything. And then
finally Ruby come over and and theysaid, okay, you're next, and
they took me in there and theykept me for about three hours. It
felt a long, long long time. And then they asked me about Green,

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about mister Green, and then theyasked me about Ralph. But there
are a few questions that was notto interest about Ralph. Uh, and
then the way and then you knowwhat what they have in mind. They
neither mister Green, neither Ralph.They thought that I did it. It

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was like an unfal gassion. Whenthey were over, they went on and
at this point they was like,give the polygraph and corpus the other one.
They took my mom. Then straightfrom there, my mom hadn't eating
breakfast. My mom was tired,and they just says, will take her.

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You go do something, you know, go eat or something, and
we'll call you when your Mom's done, which looking back, we should have
never should I felt like I handedmy mom over to the lines then,
you know, but you're just notthinking. You're thinking they're there to help
you. And so somewhere around andthat twisted whatever rumor whatever it was,
it just turned on my mom.It's like then it was like my mom

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was under investigation. And she saidthey were being really rude to her.
They were yelling at her, andthey're like, you need to tell us
the truth, you know what happenedto your daughter. And she's like,
wait a minute, like what isgoing on here? When he was so
with me, he started hitting onthis sable, he went through the window.

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Then he came back and he said, and I when I saw you,
I thought you weren't going to passwith flying Callorus, he said,
and you failed. You failed.These say Naptain, Rhodes himself and Ranger
de Luna. They're the ones thattold me my mom's the results of her
polygraph tested the day she took it. They're the ones that came out and

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told me everything. Neither Ruby norMarina no for sure if what do Luna
said about the polygraph was true ornot. We've never been able to get
a straight answer, and we thinkmaybe they were just be asking us just
to kind of, you know,you know how investing gators will think to
kind of shake things up and makepeople turn on each other, and then

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that's how they get someone to convince. I think that's what was going on,
but we don't know for sure,so we'll never have a straight answer.
A couple years later, Captain Rhodestold the local news there were some
challenges with how the investigation started,meaning the original investigation, the family wasn't
initially interviewed for a long time.Now we also have a lot of technological

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differences. While he was at leastpartially mistaken about the first claim, she
was interviewed by some of these hotTexas rangers back when we started this whole
darn thing. I can't tell youhow many times we were at that house
inside outside, pick up Marina bringersand ZD doctor blah blah blah. He

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utilized the latter. In August twentysixteen, on the twenty fourth of that
monthis ECHU search came back to town, acting on second hand information. This
time, however, it wasn't theproperty of Bob Green. They were after
Rather, it was the property whereElisa's family lived at the time of her

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disappearance, in the above garage apartmentat four thirty one South Whitney Street.
Debbie Green told us she was broughtin to show law enforcement and officials for
the Search and Recovery group where herfather had supposedly poured concrete atop Elisa's grave
using ground penetrating radar and then somesort of machinery to break up the concrete

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they began their work. Debbie toldus she was there the whole time,
just outside the dig. If that'strue, it's another investigative misstep by Rhodes,
a big one. Although Debbie saysa skeleton was found, she also
admitted to me that she didn't seeit, but only her EXCUSEARCH officials say

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they'd found something. So for sevenyears now, according to Debbie Green,
the Aransas Pass Police have not onlymanaged to keep a secret that they'd found
Elisa's body, but have also failedto bring forth charges against anyone. I
reached out to Texas Ecusearch for comment, but like the Aransas Pass Police,

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they have not replied to my requests. Captain Rhodes was confident, perhaps overly
so when he said the following year, I think we're getting close. I
am pretty confident we will reach asuccessful conclusion to it and find out what
happened to this girl. In Augustof this year, twenty twenty three,

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Corpus Christie's Channel three News reported thatafter testing, interviews and searches, nothing
new was discovered and nothing was foundin the garage under the former Roberson home.
In a social media comment, afamily member of the current homeowners said
the dig turned up nothing. Debbiethen shared with me a private message conversation

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she had with this person, usingthe person's claim that they feel Elisa's spirit
as proof she was there. Thehomeowner's family member told me by direct message
that nothing was found. Some haveposited that if the ground penetrating radar picked
up something, there must be somethingthere, even if nothing was found.

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However, it seems clear these folkshave never researched the limitations and fallibilities of
ground penetrating radar technology, or GPR. In the two thousand and nine study
utilizing ground penetrating radar for the locationof a potential human burial under concrete by

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the University of Alberta's Michael Ballinger.The author discusses a homicide investigation where the
GPR picked up on Ann under aconcrete slab where investigators had been tipped off
to examine, but after jackhammering theconcrete to escavate for bones, nothing was
found. Although the GPR had identifiedan anomaly, there was no body or

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even body fragments to be found.Nothing was there, just empty space.
And this case itself is hardly theonly one of its kind. Debbie Green
continues to push her grand conspiracy theoryonline to the detriment of the missing thirteen
year old's family. She tells meshe's the one keeping the case alive,

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but in the same breath says shewon't do interviews because no one likes what
she has to say. Debbie maintainsthat Ruby and Marina tried to keep Elisa's
case out of the public's attention untilwhat Linda Thompson calls the equ sarch debacle
in twenty sixteen. That's when theyre emerged, only to confuse the narrative

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and continue the cover up. Nexttime, on Gone Cold, we'll meet
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