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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Good
Neighbor Podcast, the place
where local businesses andneighbors come together.
Here's your host, Benjamin John.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Welcome back to the
Good Neighbor Podcast.
Thanks for coming back.
Hey, have you ever thoughtabout getting some traditional
Chinese healing?
Well, today I got the pleasureof having a conversation with Dr
Stuart Scheip, who actuallyspecializes in that.
How are you doing today?
Very good, thank you very much.
Good, yeah, you bet.
Well, I'm excited.
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So I don't know much abouttraditional Chinese healing, so
I particularly am excited tolearn more about that and to
hear what you're going to sharewith the local community here.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
So tell us a little
bit about your company local
community here, so tell us alittle bit about your company.
Wow, I'm very humbled actuallyto be part of a premier natural
medical clinic here on theTreasure Coast.
We offer integrated approach topatient care that really
promotes healing and wellness,and we do use the ancient arts
of traditional Chinese medicineto do that, and that includes
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things like acupuncture, herbalmedicine, nutritional
consultations To the Chinese.
Nutrition is always afoundation of all healing.
We use Chinese mind bodyexercise You've probably seen
some people doing Tai Chi orthere's another movement called
Qigong which is very, veryancient in bringing back balance
.
We use Chinese massage therapycalled Tui Na, and we also use
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modern advances in today'stechnology for the best in
natural healthcare.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Okay, this is
actually really cool.
I'm interested how you got intothe business, like did you go
to China to learn this stuff?
Or like, how did you getinvolved with this?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, kind of a very
how do I say that?
Interesting way that I gotinvolved.
I've been in medicine since Iwas a kid, since a teenager,
working at a drugstore inChicago, illinois, but my
journey into natural medicinereally occurred about 30 years
ago.
I was a consultant pharmacistin nursing homes for over 20
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years and, unfortunately,despite my efforts, you know,
making recommendations I prettymuch seen the outcasts of
Western medicine, folks thatwere taking multiple drugs, no
improvement in their health,robbing them of their life force
, of their health.
And I've always loved medicine,herbal medicine.
I applied to pharmacy school tostudy pharmacognosy, which is
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the study of plants, and thatafter 20 years of seeing these
individuals continuallydegenerate in long-term care, I
thought there's got to be abetter way to help than this.
So, other than using surgery,therapy and drugs.
Fortunately, a friend of minehad recommended that I visit
this Taiwanese physician in hismedical office in Florida here
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to observe a differentphilosophy of health.
He told me that I was like oh,what am I getting myself into?
You know they turn me into aBuddhist or a Taoist, or you
know, I have no idea.
Like you, I had no idea what Iwas getting into, but but he was
gracious enough to allow me toobserve him in his office and I
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shadowed him for one day.
So the very first patient thatwalked in was an elderly woman
using a cane because of severeback pain that was excruciating.
Obviously, I could see it onher face.
After he applied acupuncture,he left.
Well, 20 minutes later Ifollowed him back into the room.
He removed the needles from herand I stayed behind, trying to
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be like a gentleman, helping heroff the table and making sure
she was okay.
And upon rising he had alreadyleft the room.
Upon rising, she started to cryand I thought to myself holy
cow, like did he hurt her?
Like is this?
Like I don't know what's goingon here?
And she actually looked at meand she goes son, I haven't been
out of pain in 15 years.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
And I was like wow.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I was like I don't
know what just happened in here
and I have no idea how thathappened, but I was like that's
miraculous to me.
So the rest of the day was justlike a miracle day.
I seen people coming in,seizure disorders and other pain
syndromes and cancers and stuffI couldn't explain from a
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Western model as a pharmacist.
I didn't know what was going on.
From a Western point of view itmade no sense whatsoever.
But from that day on I knewthat there was no going back,
that this was what I wouldconsider a better way to help,
and I had.
He had a small school and Ienrolled that next day as a
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student and I pursued a degreein traditional Chinese medicine.
That led me all the way todoing my residencies and in
Beijing, shanghai, and Iultimately got my doctorate in
traditional Chinese medicine.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Wow, that is an
interesting, unique story.
You weren't kidding, and, um,as a person who, who really has
an appreciation for naturalhealing methods, um, I just
think that's actually abeautiful story.
To hear that woman's journey tothat so really cool.
Uh, what are some?
I'm so interested to know this,like what are some?
Because in every industry thereare myths and misconceptions.
What is a myth or misconceptionthat you have ran into in your
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industry?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Oh my gosh, there's
so, so many.
Because no one you know.
If you say gastroenterology ordermatology or cardiology,
everyone pretty much knows whatthat is, because we've grown up
indoctrinated with Westernmedical philosophy and
principles for our whole lives.
But when you say Chinesemedicine, nobody really kind of
knows what that is and they'relike no, I don't want to get
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stuck with needles.
And you know, I've seen thatyou know, like pinhead and these
crazy stuff on the internet.
You know where you got needlesall over the body.
That's probably thebiggestcture.
Well, we can hit the first one.
Acupuncture needles are solid,filiform, stainless surgical
steel and they're like wiresalmost.
They're very thin as a cat'swhisker and the misconception is
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that they're very painful andactually the vast majority of
acupuncture insertion is almostpainless.
You don't even feel it when youbring sometimes that energy the
Chinese have called it qi tothe needle.
Sometimes you might feel alittle bit of warmth or a little
bit of pressure or a littletingling in the area, but for
the most part it's nothing likegetting speared by a beveled
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Western hypodermic needle thatactually cuts the skin.
Acupuncture needles justseparate the skin.
They don't cut anything andwhen you take them out there's
no bleeding.
There's not like a hypodermicthat's going in.
So that's a big misconception.
And there's a lot of othertherapies other than acupuncture
.
If people are really needlephobic, I just usually say would
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you allow me at least to justdo one.
And when I put, I said turnyour head and let me know when
it's in, and they're like okay,I'm still waiting, I'm still
waiting.
I was like, oh, it's been infor 30 seconds already.
So they have no concept of that.
So that's a huge misconception.
The other thing is a lot ofindividuals say I heard that you
got to see a Chinese doctorforever and I was like well,
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actually that's not too much ofa misconception in ancient China
that is correct.
A Chinese doctor, my name, laoShuo, means teacher and I'm
supposed to be teaching you howto maintain wellness, lifestyle,
nutrition, exercise, so thatyou can keep your body in top
shape.
So you never need me on a on arelief care basis.
You know to constantly betreating some sort of problem
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Like Western medicine.
I can't believe people say,well, I told them, how long do
you have to be on that antihypertensive medication for
blood pressure?
And they're like well, I guessforever.
I was like well, that's apretty long therapy, don't you
think?
All right, yeah, so it's awhole different philosophy.
Traditional Chinese medicineabout treating wellness, not
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treating sickness.
It's not a reactive care, it'sa preventative care.
And yes, we do have to getthrough, we have to muddle
through all of that diseasestate to get what we want, which
I really want to be like aMaytag repairman, where you know
you're just kind of sittingaround waiting for the machine
to break down which it neverdoes but that's because you're
doing a good job right with thepatient and you're spending the
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time too that's needed with thepatient to talk about
relationships and theirlifestyle and their hopes and
their visions and what they'regoing to do and what they're not
going to do.
That's the beauty thattraditional Chinese medicine is
very individualized.
It takes care of the person,not the disease state.
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And when you really take care ofthe person, you get holistic
healing.
You know mind, body and spirit,and that's what is really
anathema to Americans is theyreally can't conceive of that.
We go to the doctor because wehave an illness or we have some
kind of problem.
They give us drugs and we goback into our normal lifestyle.
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But in Chinese medicine theChinese already know that you
have to use nutrition andexercise to stay healthy.
They only see a Chinese doctorwhen they can no longer take
care of the problem bythemselves.
That's what's so unique aboutit.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, I mean you said
a lot there and there's a lot
to it.
It sounds like I really have anappreciation for the proactive
healthcare concept thattraditional Chinese healing
embodies.
So I definitely align with thatand I'm super fascinated.
So I know, I know the company'scalled Women's Traditional
Chinese Healing who.
So I guess this might answerthe question who are your target
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customers and how do youattract them?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
So my doctorate was
in women's health and when I
started practicing in the late1990s I seen anyone that could
breathe because I was on fire.
I wanted to make sure that thismedicine got to as many people
as possible and I was on ahealing journey with as many of
them as I could possibly be, andup and about until I would say
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about five years, six years agomaybe.
My doctorate is in women'shealth.
That's where I had a specialty,and so I just decided with
another physician when they cameinto the practice she was from
California and seen mostlyfemale patients.
I was like why don't we focuson just treating what we love
best treating women's health?
And she agreed.
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So we pretty much changed upthe practice and focused on that
.
I thought 50% of my population,my patient population, were
males and I had.
I said, well, we're going tolose 50% of the practice if we
just focus on women.
But we did and my practiceexploded.
Why?
Because women love to have apractice that focuses
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specifically on women'sdisorders.
We treat women's health very,very well.
And not saying that, I left myguys, my guys all were
grandfathered in and about sixmonths later I had no guys in my
practice.
For some reason there's adifferent philosophy, I think,
between a lot of ladies and alot of men, and the ladies, I
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think, really are very focusedon wellness, not only for
themselves but for their family.
So just recently, asking thatquestion is who's a target
marketer?
Who are my target customers?
My ladies have pleaded with meplease help my husband, please
help my child, my male child.
I was like all right, so waslike we're going to carve out
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kind of a special care programfor for the guys related to my
ladies that are in the practice,and so we're bringing back in
guys back into the practice forsure, and it's working out okay
to begin with, so we'll see howthat that all filters out.
So that was that's kind of my,my, my difference.
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I think women are a little bitmore aware of their health and
and definitely are verynaturally pulled or gravitated
toward natural medicine.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah, I think you're
right, you're onto something and
I'm happy to know that there'sa spot for me if I, you know,
refer my wife and she's like,yeah, let's go check it out.
Yeah, I'm kind of interestedtoo, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Well, isn't that
about what it really should be?
About family health, right,yeah, the whole family.
I, even when I went to I, wasin pharmacy school.
Like I said, when Itransitioned, before I even got
in natural medicine man, inpharmacy school, I used to live
off of Pepsi and and Snickersbars, you know, to get my energy
.
We didn't have 200 of theseenergy drinks.
You know 200 different types ofthose.
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At that point, you know back inthe 80s.
But you know, when I looked atthe family model, women really
most of the time kind of controlthe health.
They make the appointments fortheir husbands, their kids.
They kind of control thefamily's health and I was like
they are the ones that usuallygo down first, unfortunately.
You know, they're so concernedabout taking care of their
family, taking care of theirhusband.
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Oh, please help him, pleasehelp them.
And I was like you know what?
You know we've ever been in aplane and you're flying along
and then all of a sudden theydrop the oxygen bags.
What do they tell you?
Who should put on the oxygenbag first, the child or the
mother?
And everybody says, oh, put iton the child Actually.
No, it actually should go onthe mother.
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So we kind of take that sameconcept and say, if the whole
family's health is going down,who should we probably take care
of first is the one that holdsthe whole family's health up,
and that's the lady of the house.
I like that approach, that'sreally cool.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
And that's the lady
of the house, the way I like.
Yeah, I like that approach.
That's really cool and you madea lot of good points there, all
right.
So, yeah, what outside of work?
I'm curious to know what youlike to do for fun.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I'm an active cyclist
and I ride a touring motorcycle
routinely with my life groupfrom church and I exercise at a
gym routinely.
My two small dogs walk me a fewtimes a day.
I stay very, very active.
I feel it's a lot of anecessity that the physician
model their lifestyle, theirnutritional habits, their
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exercise habits for the patientsthat they were.
The patient should reallydemand that of a physician.
It's like, if you want me toget well, you better be a good
example for me, right?
And so I've always said thatthat the physician should always
model what they want for theirpatients first.
Physicians should provide theirtheir not being hypocrites.
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You know, do what you expectyour patients to do, so you know
literally what they have to gothrough.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I like that.
That's fascinating.
All right, I'm going to switchgears a little bit here and ask
you a personal question.
Can you describe a hardship ora life challenge that you had to
overcome and that made youstronger?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Wow, I'd say the
biggest one was when I was about
oh my gosh 20, 21 years old.
My mom and dad dropped me offin Fargo, north Dakota, with all
my belongings in the back of apickup truck to begin pharmacy
school at North Dakota StateUniversity and I had the first
quarter of school paid.
My mom and my dad weredefinitely not rich and really
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were struggling.
I had the first quarter ofschool paid and the first three
months of rent paid.
That was it.
I had only my motorcycle and nomoney.
So I see my patients, I knowwhat hardship is and I work very
, very hard with them inplanning their care.
So it's both affordable andefficacious.
Because I've been there, I'vebeen down in the rocks bouncing
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at a redneck country and Westernpickup bar at two o'clock in
the morning roughing basketballanything I could do to make a
dollar to get me through schoolWow.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah, that's powerful
.
Well, this has been a really.
We dropped a lot of value in avery short period of time.
So what should the listeners?
What's one thing they shouldremember about traditional
women's, traditional Chinesehealing.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I would wish that
they don't give up hope for
healing, because a lot of peopledon't know what traditional
Chinese medicine is.
Hopefully you got a little bitmore of an explanation today.
I just want you to keep yourminds open to another way to
heal, you know, to eliminatedisease without the use of drugs
, therapy or surgery.
This medicine has been aroundfor thousands of years and it
really supports the body'sability to heal itself.
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We've really been brainwashedto think that we need to take
drugs, therapy and surgery inorder to heal, but actually that
power of healing is alreadyinstilled in each one of us.
It's just my wishes that don'tgive up hope.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
That's a beautiful
message.
I like that, and how can ourlisteners learn more about
women's traditional Chinesehealing?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, we, just you
can call our office 772-398-4550
.
We're online too, a website.
You can find out a ton ofinformation, including blogs and
so forth, atwwwtraditionalchinesehealingcom.
And we also have a Facebookpage.
Don't ask me, I'm not aFacebook guru, but I think it's
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Dr Scheipp.
If you put that in there, Ithink you'll.
You'll pull up our Facebookpage.
And we also have a Facebookpage.
Don't ask me, I'm not aFacebook guru, but I think it's
Dr Scheipp.
If you put that in there, Ithink you'll.
You'll pull up our Facebookpage.
And we just moved.
We're in Port St Lucie, on PortSt Lucie Boulevard, just a
little bit west of Morningside.
You can stop in the office.
We'll be happy to give you atour and sit you down and listen
to your story.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Perfect.
Well, Dr Stewart, it's reallybeen a great conversation and I
really appreciate you being onthe show and sharing your story
and what your company is allabout.
We wish you and your businessthe best moving forward, hey
thank you very much for theinvite.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I really do
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Absolutely.
You bet, take care, all right.
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