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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Good
Neighbor Podcast, the place
where local businesses andneighbors come together.
Here's your host, Skip Monty.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Well, hello everyone
and welcome to the Good Neighbor
Podcast.
So I am super excited todaybecause I have two special
guests in the studio and veryanxious to learn all about them
and what they do and what theydo for the community.
And I'm sure you'll be just asexcited because today I have the
pleasure of introducing yourgood neighbors, ms Kim Broshar
(00:33):
and Michelle Nalen, who are theowner operators of Hello
Gorgeous Professional BraFitting and More.
Welcome to the show.
Glad to have you.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Thank you Thanks,
Skip more.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Welcome to the show.
Glad to have you, thank you,thanks, skip, absolutely Now,
like I said, we're super excitedto learn all about what you
guys do and what you do for thecommunity.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So if you don't mind,
why don't you kick us off by
telling us about your business?
So we are, fortunate enough, wehave a, like the name says, a
professional bra fitting andmore studio.
So we do complimentary brafittings professional bra
fittings to help people find theright bras and the right sizes
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for their lifestyles not onlyfor their bodies, but for their
lifestyles, because everybodywants something different and
everybody is made a littledifferently.
Because everybody wantssomething different and
everybody is made a littledifferently and bras can be
really confusing and bra sizingcan be really confusing, and so
we want to help take away thatconfusion, welcome people into a
safe space and give them,literally and figuratively, the
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support that they need to findthe right items for them.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Pun intended.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Pun intended.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Support the support
needed.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I got to tell you
guys, I don't know a lot about
bras.
I know that my wife doesn'tdoesn't like them very much.
I do know that.
But so maybe she's she is apotential client for you guys.
So how did?
How did you ladies get intothis business?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
So Michelle and I
have been friends and we were
colleagues for years at a schoolwe both worked at an elementary
school for about 25 years andyou know, we hit our mid-50s and
kind of thought, well you know,is there something else in the
world that we might like to do?
And Michelle, her sister-in-law, has a business partner and
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they own a shop much like HelloGorgeous in Vermont, and so they
became our mentors.
Michelle was on vacation withher sister-in-law and heard the
story about how much they lovewhat they do.
They love the industry.
The lingerie bra fittingindustry is a really supportive,
kind, nurturing industry forwomen.
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They want women to feel goodand to feel supported and
comfortable in their bras, butmost women aren't wearing a bra
that fits.
So, coming from education, whichwe felt like was a head and a
heart endeavor, you have to, youcare about children and you
love them, but you better knowwhat you're doing to be a good
teacher, this kind of fit, thatsame bill, and we both wanted to
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be purposeful in what we do inthis world and be contributing
members of our community and wethought, well, this might be a
really great way to pivot, dosomething different, exciting
and a little bit challenging forus and we launched Hello,
gorgeous about what?
Through four years ago now,maybe just almost right at four
years ago now.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Oh, wow.
Well, congratulations, that's.
That's awesome.
Obviously, something's workingif you've been around for four
years, so yeah you mentioned, alot of women don't wear the
right size bra.
I had a friend who finally hadsomebody at a shoe store check
his what size shoe he shouldwear and he's been wearing the
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wrong size shoe his entire life.
I guess it's pretty similar,huh.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It can be similar and
you know I think a lot of
people understand the idea thatyou know clothing doesn't fit
the same with different brandsor even within the same brand.
But you know, that whole ideaof like a good running shoe or a
hiking shoe and finding theright one that fits your foot
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and the right size is kind ofthe way that a lot of people who
don't wear bras can relate tothe whole bra buying piece
because it's not a clear cutthing.
So you know we often will sayyou know we're looking to find
your best average starting sizeto help us get started, because
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you can be very different sizesin different bras.
We can have women come in whosay they get five bras.
Not everybody gets five bras,but let's just, we're just
playing around.
Some women can come in and havefive of the same bra size in
different brands and other womencan buy five bras and have a
different size in each differentbra that they buy.
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So you know we're just here tohelp them kind of take that
mystery away, take thefrustration away and help them
find a bra that really fits themin the way that they want it to
.
That's going take thefrustration away and help them
find a bra that really fits themin the way that they want it to
.
That's going to achieve thegoals that they want.
Just like with a shoe right.
Like who knew you were wearingthe wrong shoe size for years.
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Very similar, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah Well, what are
some myths or misconceptions in
the fitting industry?
Speaker 4 (05:30):
I think there's a
misconception that bras are just
inherently uncomfortable.
That is usually a product of abra that doesn't fit very well.
So that might be number one.
I think of one of the thingsthat we try to help women
understand.
Another misconception wouldjust be about how they should
fit.
I think women sometimes thinkwe think that they think, you
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know, like a double D is areally large, voluptuous shape
for a woman and the truth is,you know, bras come from an A
cup up to an R or an S or a T.
So there's a much wider rangeof bra sizes and band sizes than
you might find at a typicaldepartment store or a Target, a
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big box store.
They typically are just, youknow, have the inventory for
that median middle of the roadand sometimes that's an outdated
we think it's an outdated ideaof the size of a woman currently
.
So those are the two I canthink of off the top of my head.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, for sure.
I think those are the bigmisconceptions, because a lot of
people come in and they thinkthat a double or triple D is
Dolly Parton.
Dolly Parton is off the charts.
She is fantastic and wonderful.
Yes, and we love her, but sheshould not be your cultural
measure for bra sizing andactually for most women a D or a
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double D is actually a verypetite bra size and there are
very few.
You know, we often have womencome in and saying I'm an A cup.
It's rare Probably of all thepeople who come in saying that
maybe a 10, maybe 10% of themare actually A cups, if that,
because kind of along with whatKim was saying, for most
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American women they wear toolarge of a band and too small of
a cup, because again, when theygo to the big box store it ends
in a double D, maybe a triple D, so they have to go up in the
van to get a bigger cup and thenthey think it's going to be
more comfortable, when actuallyit's usually less comfortable
because it's not holding themtogether and it's falling off
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their body or riding up theirback and making the straps fall
down.
So you know, there aredefinitely women who don't want
a bra that fits the way that weshare that with them or the way
that we recommend.
But they, you know, at least ifwe can get them a little
snugger on the band so that itstays on their body, and that's
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another thing you know that wedo.
Skip, is that we really wantwomen to feel comfortable.
So there are definitely, youknow, bra fitters who are like
no, you have to wear this braand it must be this size.
Well, we also know that ifthey're not going to wear it and
it's sitting in a drawer andthey're cursing us and not
feeling good about themselves,it's not doing anybody any good.
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So we really try to work withwomen to help them get to the
place where they feelcomfortable.
They're achieving the goalsthat they want to achieve from
how they want to look and feelin the way that they want to
look and feel, not the way thatwe want them to.
So we're very open to workingwith people to say what's best
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for you.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
You know, and here's
some consequences that may come
from that- so well, my, my wifeis definitely a candidate and
she would kill me for tellingyou guys on a podcast.
But when she gets home, I meanshe literally only owns maybe
two or three bras, and thesecond she gets in she's a
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teacher as well.
And the second she gets inshe's a teacher as well.
And the second she gets home atthree o'clock, that thing's
coming off, you know, she's likeit's just so uncomfortable.
So I think she could definitelybenefit from from what you guys
do well and skip kim and I werewhat?
Speaker 3 (09:24):
52 years old the
first time we had a real, true
bra fitting to find bras thatreally fit us.
So we're so fortunate to behonored by women who walk
through our doors and allow usto do this with them.
We understand it's a veryintimate and vulnerable
experience and we want to bethere for women in a safe space
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during this time.
So we have women who come to uswho are 75 or 80 years old,
who've never had a fittingbefore a real fitting and gotten
a real.
But then we're so happy whenthey're younger and they come in
and we're like you're ahead ofthe game.
You get to know this now.
Whether that's for their veryfirst bra or whether that's, you
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know, their first real fittingat 25 or even 35, you know we're
like let's go.
This is fantastic.
You're figuring this out now.
You're already ahead of thegame.
So it makes us really honoredto do that and also very happy
for them.
And what we see is when theyget a bra that really fits,
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everything changes.
Their facial expression changes, their posture changes.
They just feel better aboutthemselves and we love that.
That.
We love that.
We just love it.
Well, my wife's 55.
She desperately needs to comesee you guys.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
I'm sure, I'm sure
Well outside of work, ladies
what do you, what do you guyslike to do for fun If there is
time for fun like to do for funif there is time for fun?
Um, let's see, I'm a walker.
I love to be out walking.
Um, do a little bit of yoga.
I'm in a couple of book clubs,love the movies.
I don't go as often as I usedto since the pandemic, but I do
love a good movie and being withmy family and friends.
Just cooking is one of my otherfavorite things to do with
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family and friends.
Get together and cook togetherand have a lovely meal.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, very very, very
similar Love to read, love to
be outdoors and I've got a big80 pound dog who loves to be
outside and walk and play andswim and garden and you know um
and cook and be with family andfriends.
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And especially I have fivegrandbabies so whenever I can I
want to get my hands on them.
They they live in the moreEastern part of the state but um
, yeah, so love to get my handson those cuties A little jealous
of that Not going to lie.
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
My kids aren't ready
to have kids, but when they are
man, I'm ready to be agrandmother.
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You said you have
four.
You have four grandkids Five.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Five grandkids.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Yeah, so kind of two.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
My daughter has three
and my son has two, and
daughters are older, like olderand like 11 and a half and 10.
And then I've got babies twoand seven months.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
So Wow, Now where?
Where do they live?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
My daughter and her
family live in Fayetteville.
In the Fayetteville area, myson-in-law's in the army, so
they're stationed there and, butthey're loving life there.
And then they're just an houraway from my son and his wife,
who are in the Durham area, sothey're close enough, you know,
they're not so far away.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Well, let's switch
gears for just a second.
Can one of you describe ahardship or a life challenge,
either professionally orpersonally, that you've overcome
and how it made you stronger inthe end?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Let's see, I would
say the career change was a
pretty big obstacle and, youknow, a shift for both of us to
move away from.
You know, being at the sameschool for 25 years and having
that familiarity, that community, all of that and just embarking
on starting a small business.
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We started just as the pandemichit and so we decided to start
mobile and not invest in a brickand mortar to start and just
bought inventory and would setup open houses in our own homes
or like if there was a book clubor a prayer group or something
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like that, and they would likefor us to come and do a fitting
as a part of a party for them.
We could do that.
So we did that for a while andand it just all went so well, we
had such a good time doing it.
We saw the need for ourcommunity for women to have, you
know, good fitting bras andlingerie and, yeah, I think that
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our sort of calculated,measured approach to starting a
small business and our eagernessto learn and be open to mentors
and people in our community,other women who have started
businesses and who were generouswith their time and their
advice for us, we reallyappreciate that.
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So that's the thing that comesto mind right now.
We both are quite fortunate.
Our children are well, ourfamilies are good, you know.
So I would say that, just youknow, taking that leap of faith
and starting a small business,we've loved it.
We really have enjoyed it.
We've been here now about fourand a half years and feel like
we're doing a nice jobsupporting our community.
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We have connections tocommunity groups such as Our
Voice or the Buncombe CountySchools or Helpmates, and we do
some volunteer work with themand we offer up gently used bras
to them.
So we just kind of feel like wefound that new head and a heart
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adventure and we're just sograteful that it's worked out.
You know, there's a lot tolearn and starting a small
business during such uncertaintimes was not easy, but we stuck
with it.
We had a game plan, we werepatient, stuck to that game plan
and we really feel fortunateabout where we are today.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Well, no doubt it is
not easy, regardless of what's
going on in the world Forget apandemic but it's not easy to
start a small business at all,especially, you know, this is my
small business and I mean it'svery rewarding in the end.
You know, I love working formyself and enjoy it Scary, but
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it's also, again, very rewarding, so I totally get it.
Yeah Well, kim, if you couldthink of one thing you would
like our listeners to rememberabout, hello, gorgeous,
professional bra fitting andmore what would that be?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
That we really are
here to serve anyone who would
like to wear a bra, wear a verysafe, open, welcoming
environment.
You are in charge of yourfitting when you come to see us
and we are as involved as youare comfortable with us being
involved, meaning we can stay inthe room with you and do the
fitting.
We can step out if that feels alittle too vulnerable.
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But we really are here just tohelp women and anyone who wears
a bra to feel comfortable andsupported and just be a part of
our community, Even if you justwant to come by and see who we
are and check out what we'redoing.
We would love to have that.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Awesome, awesome.
Well, for those of us who youknow and I specifically have my
wife in mind that are interestedand have a need and would like
to come check it out, how can,how can we learn more?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
So we are.
We have a website at HelloGorgeous.
I mean info at Hello Gorgeous.
Braopcom is our website, Ourphone number is 828-484-8878 and
our email is info athellogorgeousbrashopcom.
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Don't do all that.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yes, and we're also
on Facebook and Instagram.
There you go, hello, gorgeousBrashop.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Hello, gorgeous
Brashop.
We will definitely get my wifeto check it out.
Her name is Angie, I will tellher to tell you guys.
I said her so well, awesome.
Well, I, ladies, I can't tellyou how much I appreciate your
time and joining us and talkingto our listeners about what you
do and how you serve thecommunity, and wish you guys,
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and your families and yourbusiness, all the best moving
forward.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Well, thank you, and
we're not sure who nominated us,
but whoever that is, thank youso much.
This really helps us grow ourbusiness and be a bigger
presence in our community.
So thank you so much.
We appreciate it.
It was an honor to spend sometime with you, skip.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Absolutely Well, the
honor was mine and maybe in the
future, maybe after your fifthyear anniversary, we could have
you back.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
We would love that
We'll be in touch.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Sounds good, thank
y'all.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Y'all have a great
rest of the day.
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