March 27, 2025 • 41 mins
Kris Duncan doesn't just inspect homes—he examines life through a lens few could imagine. As owner of Absolute Inspection Services in Northern Kentucky, Chris brings extraordinary perspective to his work, shaped by a journey that defies medical probability and showcases remarkable human resilience.
The path to becoming a home inspector wasn't straightforward for Kris. After years as a master electrician and time in the corporate world, his life took a dramatic turn when he fell down an elevator shaft while working in a commercial building. This accident led to the discovery of a brain tumor nestled between his brain stem and spinal cord. Six years of monitoring culminated in brain surgery, followed by a challenging recovery that would later serve as preparation for even greater challenges.
During the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, Kris faced cascading health crises: liver failure requiring a transplant, followed by kidney failure necessitating dialysis. When searching for a kidney donor, the most unlikely match emerged—his wife Claudia, born and raised in Nicaragua, proved to be the perfect donor. This miracle, as Kris describes it, "proves we're all the same on the inside." His medical journey continued recently with surgery to remove a tumor wrapped around his spinal cord.
Throughout these extraordinary challenges, Kris maintained an unwavering faith that transformed his perspective. "Stop telling God how big your problems are and start telling your problems how big your God is," he shares, revealing the spiritual foundation of his resilience. Rather than asking "why me," Kris views each challenge as preparation for what lies ahead and focuses on finding purpose through adversity.
This profound life experience shapes how Kris approaches home inspection. He rejects the "deal killer" label sometimes applied to inspectors, focusing instead on providing objective information about safety and functionality. His goal is to help buyers and sellers make informed decisions while planning for future maintenance and repairs.
Listen to Kris's powerful story of survival, faith, and finding purpose through seemingly insurmountable obstacles. His journey reminds us that with the right mindset, anything is achievable—whether facing health crises or tackling life's everyday challenges.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Good Neighbor Podcast, the place
where local businesses andneighbors come together.
Here's your host, Mike Murphy.
Thank you, Charlie.
Yes, I am Mike Murphy, host ofthe Good Neighbor Podcast.
We are a podcast that bringslocal business owners here in
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Northern Kentucky to theresidents so that you can get to
know them as human beings,people rather than just a logo
on a business card or the sideof a truck.
And so I've got somebody with metoday, Chris Duncan from
Absolute Inspection Services.
He's a home inspector and youknow, often these podcasts are
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about the business side ofsomebody and we dabble a little
bit in the personal side.
But in the pre-interview, Itell you Chris has such a
powerful, compelling story.
We'll spend some time on thebusiness, but I got to tell you
the personal stuff is just kindof mind-blowing and it's a story
(01:08):
that needs to be told.
And it's not just a story, it'smultiple stories that I find
quite amazing, and so if you'relistening to this right now, I
want you to listen to the wholething.
Okay, that's my ask of youright now, because it's a story
worth listening to.
So, having said all that, and apeaking interest, Chris,
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welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Thank you, yeah, thanks for that.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You're welcome.
You've got quite a story.
I mean, there's a lot ofpersonal stuff that the more I
have learned about you, the moreI want to know about you.
The respect level has justskyrocketed and you and I have a
few things in common.
But I tell you, what you'veshared with me in the
pre-interview has been justamazing.
(02:02):
So we'll spend a lot of time onthat.
We'll take as much time as weneed to tell the story, because
you've got a lot to say.
But okay, let's set thepersonal stuff aside, Now that
we've piqued that interest.
Your business, AbsoluteInspection Services.
Tell me how did you getinvolved in home inspection?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Okay, so I've been in business, started Absolute Home
Inspection Services three years.
It's coming up on three yearsin May.
We'll get more into kind oflike the compelling story on how
this is going to flow.
But one of the reasons I am ahome instructor now is because
of previous health issues.
Like I said, we'll get more onthat personal side later Right,
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but my background was a masterelectrician.
I grew up my father was anelectrician and had his own
company.
So I swore you know I happenedto do summers and weekends with
my father I was never going tobe an electrician.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
That's not it.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
So by 24, I was a master electrician, right,
that's the way it goes, that'show it happens.
So anyway, I did that for 11,12 years and I was doing
commercial electric downtownCincinnati and I enjoyed it
quite a bit.
But that led to other thingsmeeting some corporate people in
Cincinnati, which led to atransition into the corporate
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world where I took off the jeansand put on a suit and tie, okay
, and got into the corporateworld and had a couple of
departments and I really enjoyedthe corporate world as well.
But then once again, timeschanged.
Covid hits, you know, my kindof jobs go away and so I'm no
longer there.
And then health issues cameinto play and then I kind of had
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to do a reset a few years agoand decided to become a home
inspector.
Ok, so I don't know if you wantto dive into that part now or
we can touch on it later.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Tell you what let's, let's, let's put a pin in the
why and everything, but youbecame a home inspector.
So here you are.
You're a home inspector thing,but you became a home inspector.
So here you are, you're a homeinspector, and a lot of the
people that I know know you as ahome inspector.
You've helped them immensely.
Let's just talk about how youdo that.
So, from the standpoint of youprofessionally, what is your,
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your methodology, your viewpointon home inspect, home
inspection and how you helppeople your viewpoint on home
inspection and how you helppeople.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, so to me, first off, I think sometimes home
inspections, as we talked aboutpreviously, gets kind of a bad
rap.
Sometimes a home inspector canget labeled as a deal killer,
and it's a completemisconception.
I believe that the role of thehome inspector is to try to help
people get into home and to becompletely objective on an
inspection.
So instead of, uh, completelyfocusing, I guess, as the home
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inspector, trying not to focusjust on deficiencies and prove
my worth of why I'm there andyou know, fail, fail, fail,
because it's not like that atall.
Um, a first of a homeinspection does not pass fail,
so that can take some of thepressure off for a first-time
home buyer.
A home inspection is not passfail, so that can take some of
the pressure off for a firsttime home buyer.
A home inspection is based onthe transaction and what I'm
focusing on is safety andfunctionality.
(05:11):
Okay, because you're trying toprotect the client on their
purchase.
Now we refer to code andbuilding codes and certain
things like that, but it is nota code pass fail test.
A home inspection is not passfail.
It is completely up to thehomeowner whether they want to
pursue purchasing the propertyor not after getting a report
back from a home inspector.
So I look at it as a job of thehome inspector is to inform the
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client of the issues with thehome, but also to look at it
like, okay, this is an issue,but you can do this to remediate
this is okay.
And it's also to age systemsand let them know like this
system is this old and theexpected lifespan is this many
years.
So now you can at least say,okay, I can budget for repairs
in the future, rather than just.
The whole idea is to inform myclient of what they're
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purchasing, okay.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Okay, good, so you're , you're striving to present a
picture of reality.
Yeah, okay, and people do withthat information what they will.
You're just there to give thatunbiased perspective of what
somebody is buying or selling.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
That's exactly it, with the focus of safety and
functionality.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Okay.
So once upon a time I was oneof those people that looked at
home inspectors as the devil.
People that looked at homeinspectors as the devil.
You're sent to screw up thedeal that we're all hoping we
can put together as quickly aspossible, get to the closing
table with no problems.
However, it really truly is ineverybody's best interest to
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know the reality.
Interest to know the reality,and I had kind of a shift in
perspective happened to me a fewyears ago.
That was, I kind of understoodI can't remember who it was that
explained to me how I couldlook at home inspection services
through a different lens, andthat is rather than just have a
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home inspector come in when I'mdoing a real estate transaction
and I'm laying in bed at nightworried that they're going to
come screw up the deal.
I realized it was in my bestinterest, before I put my home
on the market, to go to a homeinspector that I trusted and say
, okay, I'm going to sell thishome this spring, put together a
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full, detailed report on whatit is I'm putting on the market,
what am I selling.
And when I did that, I hadsomebody, I had a home inspector
come to me and say, man, oh man, this is a beautiful home, well
put together, well built.
However, here are some things.
Here are some things that youneed to be aware of, and it was,
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you know, boom, boom, boom, andI was grateful in that moment,
like, okay, I get to addressthis before I put the home on
the market so that when I dosell it, it's not a surprise to
me at that moment, it's not asurprise to the buyer.
I have a much higher likelihoodof selling this home than if I
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had waited until an inspectorlooked at it while we were all
trying to get to the closingtable.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
You're exactly right, mike, you hit the nail on the
head.
A pre-listing inspection,majority of people don't get
them and I don't know if they'renot informed to get up, I don't
think they think about it ormaybe, yeah, just not even aware
.
And I have found too that themajority of homeowners you know
they, especially if they've beena homeowner and they've made
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this home they think they'reselling the best home, they
think there's nothing wrong withit and of well, and they made
this time.
They think they're selling thebest home, they think there's
nothing wrong with it, right,and of course, they're going to
list it.
They're going to want the topballot for that home.
Yeah, and oftentimes, when aninspection report comes back
from the potential buyer,they're devastated by the amount
of work that's done and they'relike, oh, I'm not going to take
this much off, I don't want tomake these concessions.
Yeah.
So I do think it's wise.
If you're wanting to get topdollar you you know at the
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market value for your home, youneed to go to the table with a
seller knowing exactly whatyou're selling, because the
buyer's going to come preparedfor exactly what they're buying.
So why should you be surprisedas well Sometimes if you have a
pre-inspection done, the buyermay accept your inspection
report and waive getting theirown.
They may still get their own andcompare notes.
(09:23):
I've had some where I've justtaken the inspection report
because I know who the inspectorwas.
I reviewed it and then I justmade sure that the requested
changes were made.
So I think it's just afantastic idea.
If you're going to sell yourhome and you want to get to the
top of the market value whichyou think it's worth, you need
to have an inspector get throughit.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, and I know to some people it might seem like
you know why would I do that?
I'm going to have to pay forthat inspection out of pocket,
Correct, but think of it You'reabout to engage in one of the
biggest transactions of yourlife.
What you're going to pay thatinspector to help you get to the
closing table quicker is a dropin the bucket.
(10:05):
It really shouldn't evenregister on the scale of of
overall cost, because it's so,it's so valuable.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
It's a low percentage .
I think a lot of the drawbackis it's out of pocket money, but
a lot of times everything'sfinanced, and sometimes it hurts
when it comes directly out ofyour pocket.
Your average home inspection,though, is only five hundred
dollars, and when I say onlyyour average home is what?
A quarter million plus so fivehundred dollars compared to
protect them, you know a quartermillion dollar investment at
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least, even if you don't makeconcessions or that doesn't do
anything to the purchase.
You're getting report of thestory of the home, so that,
after you move in, you know, youknow.
You know the age of yourappliances, you know the age of
all your systems.
You know, like, what potentialhazards could come to a home
down the road.
Not just, hey, worrying about apass fail, which it's not, it's
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also a book of information that, three years in, you know your
hot water heater stops working.
Well, oh yeah, we knew that.
We can still refer back to thereport and like, oh yeah, he
said it had that.
Three years in, you know yourhot water heater stops working.
Well, oh yeah, we knew that youcan still refer back to the
report and like, oh yeah, hesaid it had about three years
left.
You can budget for repairs.
You can be more.
I guess knowledge is power,whether you're buying or selling
, the more everybody knows aboutthe home, the happier
everybody's going to be.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
It's reality, it's information.
It's information that you need.
You shouldn't bury your head inthe sand, whether you're
selling or buying.
Yeah, it's in everybody's bestinterest to embrace the home
inspection process Treat it.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, I would advise you treat it for what it should
be and the idea is to informeverybody involved with the
house.
It's not to find deficienciesand try to tear a house down or
scare somebody from buying ahome.
It's to inform somebody likehere's a home, here's
observations we found.
Here's some things you can dofor it.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Have you ever found something that's like way better
than code and you're like, damn, this is great.
Oh, it happens quite a bit Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, and you can tell, and you know you can tell
just good craftsmanship, goodworkmanship, versus there's a
lot of flips now and you see alot of things that are not up to
code.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
They're just trying to get through it so they can
get their money yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And that's big, big business right now Well, it has
been over the last few years isthe flips, and a lot of the
flips come in.
They hit a good target marketfor pricing for first-time
homebuyers.
A lot of first-time homebuyersare in that market or that price
range of flips, and so they'rethe ones that need protected the
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most, because they are the mostscared.
This is their first purchase,this is one of the biggest
things of their life, and now alot of the homes that they're
being looked at are ones thatcould they were flipped.
Now there's great flips.
I'm not putting a bad mark onmany flips.
However, there's bad ones, andwe know a lot of times the
intention of the flip is to getthrough things, so it's to
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protect a first-time home buyeron things of that nature as well
.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
So you're helping people that are vulnerable.
You know that can least affordto make a mistake, a misstep.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, and particularly I know to focus on
first time homebuyers, but thoseare the ones that need the home
inspection the most, becausethose are the ones that are.
They're just so nervous aboutthe entire process and you know
they have a great real estateagent.
They're walking them throughthe whole thing.
But if you can at least holdtheir hand through the what they
know that they're purchasingwhether good made or indifferent
, if they just know what they'repurchasing you can help take
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some of that anxiety away fromthem okay.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
So I think we've done a good job of kind of
explaining, you know, thebenefits of a home inspection
service.
Uh, I want to kind of touchbriefly before we get into
another part of your story thatI find so intriguing.
Let's talk about family.
So I've not met anyone in yourfamily.
(13:53):
I've not met your spouse.
I don't know much about them.
So I'm learning along with thelisteners.
Tell me about your family.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Oh, our family is amazing.
So my wife, claudia we've beenmarried back in August was five
years, so a little over fiveyears now.
Children-wise, like I said,empty nesters kind of in a way.
They're still at that age wherethey come and go, but we have
four children.
I've got three stepchildren anddaughters.
(14:22):
Ernesto is our oldest, he is 26.
Let me make sure I get it.
No, I think he turned 27.
I've got three stepchildren anddaughter.
So Ernesto is our oldest, he is26.
Okay, and let me make sure, no,I think about he turned 27.
I got to get ages, right, he's27 now.
So Ernesto is 27.
And he's a electrician as well,like me.
So, yeah, of course, right, youjust can't escape it, you cannot
.
So what a beautiful thing aboutit is working together thing
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about it is working together.
Now he's a, you know, he's ajourneyman, looking to get his
masters and working with himside by side on work.
I get now that's you can't beat, that, you just really can't
right.
And then, uh, monica is uh, themiddle daughter and she got
engaged, uh, last week.
Oh, congratulations, yeah,monica, her and matt.
So, yes, she's 25, justrecently engaged.
And then we have the youngestboy, rg RGO.
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He's 23, and he's still kind offiguring out things, doing his
thing, working.
He lives in Indiana.
I don't get to see him as much,but he hangs out.
Then we have the youngest,autumn, my daughter.
She's 22, getting returned 23in May, okay, and so, yeah, she
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just got her first what I callbig girl job.
She finished up college lastyear and just recently got hired
Digital marketing.
That was her major in businessmanagement.
She just recentlycongratulations to her too
started her job.
So yes, four children in thetwenties, I would imagine we're
going to have a lot ofgrandbabies coming years.
So, yeah, no, that's a familyand it's yeah, I guess I love it
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okay.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Well, you seem very proud of them.
I am because, yeah, your faceshines when you talk about them
smiling the whole time.
That's a good thing yeah, wellit's.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yes, they haven't families important?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
yes, well, you know, you've, you've got this uh
wonderful family supporting you,and it's a good thing because,
um, the part of the story thatI've alluded to earlier, uh,
multiple stories I don't knowhow we really approach it, but
there's a lot to talk about, alot to unpack, and it's all
around your personal health andI don't really even know where
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to start.
But I just want to make surethat we get to talk about it.
Okay, we can't tell all of it,because we'd be here, you know,
all evening, but, however, Iwant to make sure that we give
people, um an understanding ofeverything you've gone through
and how it relates to um, your,your faith, you're, you know,
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appreciative of everyone that'skind of supported you and, um,
yeah, so let's, let's get intothat.
Um, I, I know there's anelevator shaft involved yes
because, as we talked, you knowthe the story keep it kept going
backwards and backwards.
You know you kept stepping meback and that started this way,
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and that started because of this.
Yes, but the elevator shaft iskind of where I'm starting, so
let's start there.
What happened?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Okay, so I guess that kind of started the well, I
would say, like where my firsthealth issue started, the first
time I found out that I had ahealth issue and the first time
I found out that I had a healthissue and the first time I
realized god was protecting me.
Okay, um.
So yeah, I forget the year Ifell into the elevator shaft
because I had the surgery.
(17:40):
I had the surgery in 2006, sothis must have been right around
2000.
Okay, um, I fell into anelevator shift the electrician.
I was in a commercial building.
Uh, we had a dark outage.
Whole building was out, okay,and we had a freight elevator.
Hit the door in to find thedoor.
We thought the freight was onthis floor.
Apparently it wasn't.
Yeah, so you have to pull thedoor in.
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I went to take a half step into step in the elevator.
When I realized the elevatorwas not there, I couldn't catch
myself.
I fell.
Good thing it was only twofloors down.
Um, I landed on top of theelevator shaft, I busted some
ribs open, hit my head and Isevered a couple ribs.
That was really painful becausefalling into an elevator shaft
only happens in the movies itreally does and in the dark and
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landing on top of it, right, notknowing where you're going to
land.
I mean, dude, I don't think Ihad time to think about if I was
going to hit it.
Just I felt the hit, yeah, andthen I pulled out of it.
I climbed up a condo, I pulledmyself up, I was yanking me up,
pulled back out and I dressed inred.
That's incredible and I'm like,well, don't tell nobody, it's
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embarrassing.
So I stayed for another threehours at work because I wasn't
bleeding.
I said I'm up on my head andI'm just kind of can't breathe.
Then I went to the hospital.
All right, I was yeah.
Anyway, three hours later, yeah,so long story short on that,
because I'd hit my head.
They got, they did a CAT scanand they told me that they said
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they thought I had a brainaneurysm and it's more testing
to happen.
Couldn't find out.
They're like no, no brainaneurysm.
But that's the good news.
The bad news is you have abrain tumor.
So what they found at that timeis I had a floating mass right
between my brain stem and myspinal cord Now non-cancerous.
However, they're like it's avery delicate area.
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It's small enough.
It's about the size of a tip ofa eraser or a pencil.
Okay, very small, but if itmoves or attaches it's used.
Now I wasn't having symptomseither.
So they found this because Ifelt I had no idea.
Yeah Well, for six years I hadto get an MRI Just to monitor
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Every quarter, two of them.
You had to slide through, pullthe cage of your head.
They're intimidating, but youget used to them because they're
really.
They land there and they pullthe cage of your head and then
they pull you out and they giveyou a shot of the contrast back
in.
So I had to do that everyquarter for like six years and
that's when I'm.
During that period I startedhaving anxiety issues because
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I'm walking around with theunknown of this floating tumor
in the back of my head and itled to some anxiety issues,
which led to some panic attacksunderstandably so, by the way.
It's just the unknowns, it justwore me.
It really did um, but anyway,after six years did um without
symptoms.
One of the mris come back andthey're like hey, we got to do
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surgery.
It attached to your brainstem.
Once again like no symptoms.
I didn't know.
I'm like, well, good, let's dothis, because I just it was an
answer.
You know it was an answer.
So I had a surgery done and Iwas in the sixth.
It was successful.
There were some hiccups afterthe surgery, got meningitis in
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my spinal cord fluid.
It almost wiped me out.
I had to get back to thehospital.
That was another few monthsstay.
I got through all that.
It was a really, really roughrecovery Getting back on my feet
, learning to do everything,motor skills, a lot of different
things.
I was able to do it.
I didn't know at the time toprepare me for other things.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
That was just the beginning yeah, because there's
more to come yes, yes, that wasthe beginning.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
That was me at the time, not knowing you know you
always.
What am I going through this?
Why am I going through this?
yeah well now, I know it waspreparing me for what was coming
up later.
Okay, so the beauty of afterthat surgery, too, is it
eliminated the anxiety.
So, because of you know, Iwasn't walking around thinking I
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was just going to fall over.
I survived the surgery, I gotthrough the surgery, I'm back,
I'm healthy and no more pendingattacks.
So that's great.
Everything is going well Then,I guess.
So that's great, everything isgoing well.
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Um then, I guess, I guess wejust refer to that because that
was in 06 not just prepared me,so I stayed healthy since.
But then, you know, 2020, hitsgo with hits.
Everything's going crazy.
Um, I just left my job in thecorporate world because the
whole world's shutting down,yeah, and I got really sick.
I went to the urgent care and Iwas coughing blood and coming
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out my nose and little things.
I felt horrible for a fewmonths.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
So you took yourself to urgent care.
You're just like hey, what'sgoing on?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, and I felt bad and I was gaining a lot of
weight.
I was gaining a lot of weight.
I'd gone my normal weight backthen.
I was a little heavier.
My normal weight back then wasprobably 220.
I'd swell up to about 240.
I was gaining water weight, notrealizing it because my liver
was failing.
(22:45):
Anyway, when I get an urgentcare, that's when I go your
liver's failing it's really,really bad.
I was there, like I said, andthree days before I went home,
so they found out what the liverfailing I'm at St E's for five
weeks and they're just trying toget everything in order and I'm
in and out, in and out, and itcomes down to like, if I don't
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get a liver, you know I'mexpiring, and so, and it comes
down to like, if I don't get aliver, you know my I'm expiring
and so you know the miracle, god.
So I end up getting.
I end up getting a liver within48 hours and you know that
right in itself is the first,another miracle amongst the many
that I've been through, and sowhen that happens, I go through
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the surgery.
Surgery of that is.
That is success.
So now we're in October.
I'm sorry, we're in November of2020.
Oh, let me backpedal again.
I know there's another littlecaveat to part of this story too
.
So when COVID hit and all that,and one of the reasons I kind
of stepped away from work wasthat's when I took my father and
mom into my house because mydad was in the hospice.
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He was passing away from cancer, and so I moved them into my
house in the hospice, so I'djust done that.
They'd been at the house andthen all of a sudden, I'd get
sick during the same period, soI ended up going to the hospital
in September.
I'm in the hospital for a monthand my dad passed away, so I
missed all of that during COVID,and then that was.
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He passed October to November.
I had to have my transplant.
I got lucky and got atransplant and so that
transplant was in November and Icome out of transplant and it
worked and you know I just feelbetter it worked.
But then comes the other news,like okay, success, but now your
kidneys are failing.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Okay, so right there you've.
You've woken up.
You've had the issue with theliver, yes, and what's the next
thing that hits you?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
so, yeah, so I go, I wake up, um, this is november
from the liver transplant andit's okay, it's a success and I
already feel better because thelast few days monthly up to the
liver transplant, it's a success.
I already feel better becausethe last few days monthly up to
the liver transplant, they'reputting fentanyl patches on me
and I drugged up.
I don't remember a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Did you have the jaundice?
Were you yellow and stuff?
Oh yes.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I looked like a lizard.
I had yellow eyes, I picked upa lot of weight from the water
and everything.
You didn't look like you.
Not one bit.
It was bad.
I got pictures of it.
I got some pictures before andafter, right, yeah, okay.
But so now I have, yeah, soliver's fine, but my kidneys,
(25:24):
because of the damage that done,from the liver failing and the
surgery of getting a new one,and now my kidneys are not
functioning properly.
All right, so I'm on dialysis.
At this point I wake up.
I'm on dialysis Now, I'm stillin the hospital and this is
COVID, rampant Now as I'mdealing with all this, that was
the first five weeks.
Was that sin?
Then the surgery was done at UCand then I'm in recovery there.
(25:46):
Now, you have to imagine,during COVID, there's no
visitors, right, the rooms are,you're not.
You don't get your own room,you're shared with other people,
they're understaffed, the placeis full.
I mean, nobody knows what to do.
It's COVID and I'm goingthrough these transplants.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, people were kind of making it up as they
went and nobody really knew andit and the whole world's being
shut down by unknowns.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
It's just a bunch of creatures.
And I'm just laying in there inthe middle of it, right?
So, anyway, so it kind of madeit a lot different.
I guess a lot of thinking,because you lay there the whole
time recovering without talkingto nobody.
Yeah, no TVs, no, nothingAnyway beyond that.
So I'm on dialysis andeverything.
(26:30):
At that point I start to getbetter.
They send me to anotherhospital called Encompass.
That's more of a recoveryhospital, because I have to
learn better skills anddifferent things.
I'd learn to walk again.
I don't think I told you aboutthat point either.
When I get out, they send mehome.
(26:50):
It's 103 days Now I go home andit's Christmas Eve.
Really, yeah, it's Christmas Eve.
Oh man, it's a part of thestory too.
I get home, it's blustery,snowing a little bit, super cold
.
I'm in a wheelchair, or no, thewheelchair's not there.
I'm on a walker thewheelchair's not there.
I ordered one.
It's just inside the door.
(27:10):
I didn't know that, but I hadone step to get into the front
door and I got my walker and Igot to take that first step and
I go down.
It's me and my wife and mystepfather.
Well, I can't get up.
So they put a blanket on me,cover me up and they're trying
to get me into the house.
So I tell the joke.
It's like I just spent 100 plusdays in the hospital and it's
like I'm in the desert lookingat an oasis.
(27:31):
I'm sitting on my front porchwith a blanket on me, trying to
get into my house.
I'm so close, I'm so close.
And so they realized that thewheelchair had arrived
previously coming home and theywere able to put the wheelchair
together real quick and slide meinto the wheelchair and get me
into the house.
Okay, but anyway, I justthought that was part of the
(27:53):
little struggle to get into thehouse.
I made it home and then thephysical therapy and all that
starts.
Now I have these zero kidneys,so to speak, and I'm on dialysis
four days a week that I have togo to.
While I'm in all my physicaltherapy I'm learning to walk
again.
I'm going to dialysis in awheelchair, in a walker.
You know it's a lot, but duringit the kidneys go to end-stage
(28:19):
renal.
So at this point it's eight anda half months in that I've been
on dialysis and I've removedfrom my liver transplant.
I have to have a kidneytransplant.
They're just not.
They're dead.
So I was because of the livertransplant I was able to go up
the list for transplanteligibility calls some safety
net program because onetransplant caused the other one.
(28:40):
But they're like you know, know, for the longevity of your life
it would be much better to geta live donor versus your
deceased donor.
It's just a lot better for you.
So at that point we talked aboutyou know how do we find a donor
?
Let's get some people swabbed.
You know, you look at, look atwhat's the website look like,
setting up.
You know we would put a wholetogether.
(29:00):
So the first step is you startlooking for a live daughter.
So, you know, I'd asked acouple of family members, my
daughter.
And this is where, once again,the story just takes a turn.
And this is why you know thefaith in God and everything,
just some things you can'texplain.
This is God's will, right?
So my wife, claudia I talkedabout earlier she's born and
raised in Nicaragua.
(29:20):
I tell her she's having to getswabbed and I'm like there's no
sense.
Family members are swabbed.
She insists on it andeverything comes back.
Well, she's the perfect match,mike, that's incredible, yeah,
born and raised in Nicaragua.
You're right, and who would haveever thought.
No, it proves we're all thesame on the inside, no matter
(29:42):
what.
And so, yes, I have her kidney.
It's right in front here andit's a champion kidney.
It's amazing.
The best part of you it is, itis, yeah, she's got me with that
one.
So you know, just getting that,you know, I'm just so blessed
(30:04):
you to be here, to have her.
That her first, the willingnessof her yeah, that's not talked
about enough.
The willingness of her, hersacrifice to give her kidney to
me, yeah, but anyway, so youknow, now I have her kidney and
I'm on the recovery path.
Then there's a hiccup after thatwhen I get organ rejection.
(30:26):
Now, my body's a chemistry lab.
I've been through a lot.
At this point, organ rejectionis kind of crazy.
They had to put many weirdmedicines to try to combat it.
I ballooned to 290 pounds, wow,yeah, in like 11 days, right.
And then they had to givethat's crazy.
(30:49):
Well, then they had to give methese water pills and water
medicine that pulled all off thewater, to pull it all off, and
then I ended up losing thatwhole 90 pounds in like seven
days.
My skin was so tight it feltlike like you stretch a balloon.
Yeah, you couldn't touch me.
It felt like my skin wasburning, it was just so bizarre.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
It doesn't seem like the human body would be able to
withstand that drastic of achange over such a short period
oh, double X clothes wasn'tgetting on me.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
They know shoes fit, come, put socks on.
I mean, it was only for thattwo week period while my body
was going through this organrejection and the medicines they
were giving me, yeah, and thenit was.
At that time I decided to becoming home and specter.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Right yeah, why wouldn't you?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
You know, that's like you know an awful joke with you
know, my wife.
It's you know I'm like, okay,it's like you know I've been
through all this but I'm goingto be okay.
I just, you know, I've gonethrough so much and the fact
that we're still living, it'slike it'll be okay.
I mean, what can you take fromme now?
Right, I got this.
So I'm like what can I do that?
(31:57):
I had some criteria of like youknow, like what am I going to
be when I grow up?
Now I was like you know, I'm amaster electrician by trade.
I got a dozen years in thecorporate world with business
and I need to have somethingwhere I have scheduled
flexibility, because now I havea liver team, now I have a
kidney team, now I have multipledoctor's appointments.
There's a lot there.
So I landed on home inspectorthat checked all the boxes.
If I start my own company, youknow I had that scheduling
(32:20):
freedom and I can apply thisskill.
So I was able to complete allthe needed training for the hem
inspector online, becauseusually it's in person.
Because of COVID finishing up,they were still allowing online.
So I'm still sick.
I'm finishing up online.
I'm not physically able to doinspections.
So I did all that for the lineahead of time time.
As soon as they allow you to goto the physical part, I'm
(32:42):
physically able, I go down hereand finish up, and then I got to
do, wow, okay.
So I was like I was ready to dothis before.
I was even physically ready todo this.
Yeah, and I think part of myhealing through that was knowing
I was starting a company and itgave me something to do, okay,
something to strive for.
And that's why with thiscompany, that's why it means so
much to me now, because ithelped me heal like it gave me
(33:04):
something to work for and nowthat it's working, it's just
really passionate about it.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
yeah, so it speaks to the human condition, human will
, speaks to god's hand in things, because, just in terms of the
timing of things, I mean, thestory overall is incredible, and
it's a story still beingwritten.
By the way, now let's pray thatyou know the hospital bed days
(33:32):
are behind you.
Well, we just finished one up.
Yeah, because there was anotherspinal surgery, I mean the that
you know.
When I came to know you, youwere weeks away from this most
recent surgery, so let's talkabout that.
So what?
What did that entail?
Speaker 2 (33:53):
well then, that one was two.
It fell back from the previousone being found.
Once again, these things arefound.
There's a reason why they'refound, you know, uh.
So when I was getting worked upfor the kidney transplant and
after the liver transplant to doa full body, they found the
tumor on my uh, on my spinalcord then.
But it was small and I didn'thave any symptoms and I just
(34:14):
wanted to live at the time.
So we're like we'll deal withthat at a later date, right,
well, you know, for get, I'mfinally healthy, I'm finally
doing great.
And then back in August, youknow, that sucker reared up his
nasty head and all of a sudden Igot arms going numb right arm,
then left arm, then I'm droppingthings.
I know what's wrong.
I go back to MRIs.
They're like okay, this tumorhas wrapped around your spinal
(34:36):
cord, we're going to remove partof your spine and we're going
to get it out.
That was tomorrow will be sixweeks when I had that done.
So one of the things I do wantto mention because you talk
about faith and I think it'simportant I want to point out
you know, faith is what hasgotten me through everything,
faith and family, and the quoteI use and I mentioned to you
earlier and I like to tellpeople is when you go through
(34:58):
things like this, you knowthere's different mentalities
and ways you can take it andsometimes you beat yourself up
like why is this happening to me?
You know why me, why me and Iheard this along the way and I
just started practicing andusing it and it changed.
Everything to me is stoptelling God how big your
(35:19):
problems are and start tellingyour problems how big your god
is.
And when you do that, you justgive it all to him and all you
gotta do is worry about you,gotta worry about your stress
level goes down, your anxietygoes down.
You know he's gonna handle itfor you and you do your part.
You know you don't just sitaround.
You gotta heal, you gotta doyour part.
You know you don't just sitaround.
(35:41):
You got to heal, you got to doyour part.
But if you just, you know,don't, everything that happens
happens for a reason andanything that has happened
through me that has been anytype of negative impact has had
a positive impact on the otherside.
There's reasons we go throughthings, impact on the other side
.
There's reasons we go throughthings and there's preparation
(36:02):
in which you know I saidprevious to you, mike, is, had I
not gone through the brainsurgeries, the brain surgery and
that health issues back then in2006, I would not have been
mentally prepared to go througheverything I've gone through
recently.
So that was a step and at thetime I didn't know what that was
.
This is hindsight, looking back, and that prepped me for the
(36:25):
transplants.
And then going through all thatand now just having, you know,
tumor of my spinal cord.
To me that was like okay, let'sjust go and get this knocked
out, be laid up for a few weeksand move on, like it's just,
we're okay, we got momentum, youknow, and it's just.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
that gives me that positive perspective and
positive attitude just go ahead,god's got this yeah, sometimes
through what seems to be atragic event, occurrence in our
life, um, as bad as it seems inthat moment, um, as you move
through time and you haveperspective and you look back,
(37:02):
you realize that born of thatmoment has been tons and tons of
blessings, of course, and thereare blessings that will be born
of that, that are ahead of youstill, that you have no idea
what they are, that they'recoming, but they're out there,
of course.
And through time bringsperspective and understanding,
(37:23):
and so all I can say is, from myperspective, looking at you,
it's amazing that you look asgood as you look and that you
have the attitude that you have.
Because I'm sure, not all of thedays have been sunny and rosy.
(37:45):
You're a human and you haveyour human moments, and so it
couldn't have been easy, butI've never known you to complain
or just you've always had agood attitude and, having heard
the story that you just told, um, I have a lot of respect for
you and thank you.
(38:06):
I think that, uh, you know,just having people hear what
you've gone through, everybodyhas their own stories, but they
can kind of relate to whetherit's a medical thing or just
some sort of uh challenge hurdlethat they have to overcome.
They see, gosh, okay, if he canget through that, then there's
(38:29):
hope for me too.
So I appreciate you sharingwith me and with the listeners a
bit of your story.
Yeah, there's a lot more thatyou and I could talk about.
Relative to that and I say thisa lot to my guests it's like we
need to have another podcast totalk about dot dot, dot.
Well, we need to have anotherpodcast to just kind of talk
(38:52):
about, kind of some of ourshared experiences, okay, and
how, uh, they could be used tohelp others who are going
through something tough in theirlife in the moment.
There's people out therelistening to this, whether it's
this week or three or fourmonths from now, because this
(39:15):
podcast is going to live a long,long life.
People will be hearing thismany, many months or years from
now.
Even You're giving hope tosomebody out there.
You just don't know who thatperson is or what the situation
is.
So thank you for doing that.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Thank you for the kind words.
I appreciate it and I do wantto give hope because, yeah, it
sounds like I've been through alot.
Yeah, I've been through a lot.
Okay, cool.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
You have been so admit it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah, but everybody's story is different.
Everybody goes through it.
I'd like to say that you know,I'm a cautionary tale and I
don't mind talking about it,because I think, at the end of
the day, anything is achievablewith the right mindset, and
that's business.
That's getting through health,that's getting through
relationships, that's gettingthrough anything.
I mean, if you just you know,have faith and have a good
(40:09):
attitude, that can fix anything.
Yeah, I believe that.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah Well, thank you for sharing.
I think with that message we'llend things on that beautiful
note.
Fair enough, yeah, I'm proud tobe your friend and I'm proud to
have you here today to helptell your story.
I appreciate that.
(40:35):
Mike, everybody, there you go.
There's a one man's um kind ofperspective on on life and
overcoming, uh, some of thestuff that happens to people.
Um, you know, chris has hadmore than his share of human
things happen to him, but, um,when you reach out, uh and share
(40:57):
your experience with others,they can kind of see themselves
in you a little bit.
You never know who you'rehelping when you're sharing and
when you're being vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
So, thanks, for doing that.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Yeah, absolutely All right.
Everybody Well ends thisedition of the Good Neighbor
podcast.
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for listening, untilnext time.
Everybody be good to yourneighbor.
So long, thanks for listeningto the Good Neighbor Podcast
Union.
To nominate your favorite localbusinesses to be featured on
(41:32):
the show, go to GNPUnioncom.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
That's GNPUnioncom, that's gmpunioncom, or call us
at 859-651-8330.
This is the Good Neighbor Podcast, the place
where local businesses andneighbors come together.
Here's your host, Mike Murphy.
Thank you, Charlie.
Yes, I am Mike Murphy, host ofthe Good Neighbor Podcast.
We are a podcast that bringslocal business owners here in
(00:22):
Northern Kentucky to theresidents so that you can get to
know them as human beings,people rather than just a logo
on a business card or the sideof a truck.
And so I've got somebody with metoday, Chris Duncan from
Absolute Inspection Services.
He's a home inspector and youknow, often these podcasts are
(00:47):
about the business side ofsomebody and we dabble a little
bit in the personal side.
But in the pre-interview, Itell you Chris has such a
powerful, compelling story.
We'll spend some time on thebusiness, but I got to tell you
the personal stuff is just kindof mind-blowing and it's a story
(01:08):
that needs to be told.
And it's not just a story, it'smultiple stories that I find
quite amazing, and so if you'relistening to this right now, I
want you to listen to the wholething.
Okay, that's my ask of youright now, because it's a story
worth listening to.
So, having said all that, and apeaking interest, Chris,
(01:33):
welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Thank you, yeah, thanks for that.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You're welcome.
You've got quite a story.
I mean, there's a lot ofpersonal stuff that the more I
have learned about you, the moreI want to know about you.
The respect level has justskyrocketed and you and I have a
few things in common.
But I tell you, what you'veshared with me in the
pre-interview has been justamazing.
(02:02):
So we'll spend a lot of time onthat.
We'll take as much time as weneed to tell the story, because
you've got a lot to say.
But okay, let's set thepersonal stuff aside, Now that
we've piqued that interest.
Your business, AbsoluteInspection Services.
Tell me how did you getinvolved in home inspection?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Okay, so I've been in business, started Absolute Home
Inspection Services three years.
It's coming up on three yearsin May.
We'll get more into kind oflike the compelling story on how
this is going to flow.
But one of the reasons I am ahome instructor now is because
of previous health issues.
Like I said, we'll get more onthat personal side later Right,
(02:48):
but my background was a masterelectrician.
I grew up my father was anelectrician and had his own
company.
So I swore you know I happenedto do summers and weekends with
my father I was never going tobe an electrician.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
That's not it.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
So by 24, I was a master electrician, right,
that's the way it goes, that'show it happens.
So anyway, I did that for 11,12 years and I was doing
commercial electric downtownCincinnati and I enjoyed it
quite a bit.
But that led to other thingsmeeting some corporate people in
Cincinnati, which led to atransition into the corporate
(03:24):
world where I took off the jeansand put on a suit and tie, okay
, and got into the corporateworld and had a couple of
departments and I really enjoyedthe corporate world as well.
But then once again, timeschanged.
Covid hits, you know, my kindof jobs go away and so I'm no
longer there.
And then health issues cameinto play and then I kind of had
(03:46):
to do a reset a few years agoand decided to become a home
inspector.
Ok, so I don't know if you wantto dive into that part now or
we can touch on it later.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Tell you what let's, let's, let's put a pin in the
why and everything, but youbecame a home inspector.
So here you are.
You're a home inspector thing,but you became a home inspector.
So here you are, you're a homeinspector, and a lot of the
people that I know know you as ahome inspector.
You've helped them immensely.
Let's just talk about how youdo that.
So, from the standpoint of youprofessionally, what is your,
(04:18):
your methodology, your viewpointon home inspect, home
inspection and how you helppeople your viewpoint on home
inspection and how you helppeople.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, so to me, first off, I think sometimes home
inspections, as we talked aboutpreviously, gets kind of a bad
rap.
Sometimes a home inspector canget labeled as a deal killer,
and it's a completemisconception.
I believe that the role of thehome inspector is to try to help
people get into home and to becompletely objective on an
inspection.
So instead of, uh, completelyfocusing, I guess, as the home
(04:51):
inspector, trying not to focusjust on deficiencies and prove
my worth of why I'm there andyou know, fail, fail, fail,
because it's not like that atall.
Um, a first of a homeinspection does not pass fail,
so that can take some of thepressure off for a first-time
home buyer.
A home inspection is not passfail, so that can take some of
the pressure off for a firsttime home buyer.
A home inspection is based onthe transaction and what I'm
focusing on is safety andfunctionality.
(05:11):
Okay, because you're trying toprotect the client on their
purchase.
Now we refer to code andbuilding codes and certain
things like that, but it is nota code pass fail test.
A home inspection is not passfail.
It is completely up to thehomeowner whether they want to
pursue purchasing the propertyor not after getting a report
back from a home inspector.
So I look at it as a job of thehome inspector is to inform the
(05:32):
client of the issues with thehome, but also to look at it
like, okay, this is an issue,but you can do this to remediate
this is okay.
And it's also to age systemsand let them know like this
system is this old and theexpected lifespan is this many
years.
So now you can at least say,okay, I can budget for repairs
in the future, rather than just.
The whole idea is to inform myclient of what they're
(05:55):
purchasing, okay.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Okay, good, so you're , you're striving to present a
picture of reality.
Yeah, okay, and people do withthat information what they will.
You're just there to give thatunbiased perspective of what
somebody is buying or selling.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
That's exactly it, with the focus of safety and
functionality.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Okay.
So once upon a time I was oneof those people that looked at
home inspectors as the devil.
People that looked at homeinspectors as the devil.
You're sent to screw up thedeal that we're all hoping we
can put together as quickly aspossible, get to the closing
table with no problems.
However, it really truly is ineverybody's best interest to
(06:41):
know the reality.
Interest to know the reality,and I had kind of a shift in
perspective happened to me a fewyears ago.
That was, I kind of understoodI can't remember who it was that
explained to me how I couldlook at home inspection services
through a different lens, andthat is rather than just have a
(07:05):
home inspector come in when I'mdoing a real estate transaction
and I'm laying in bed at nightworried that they're going to
come screw up the deal.
I realized it was in my bestinterest, before I put my home
on the market, to go to a homeinspector that I trusted and say
, okay, I'm going to sell thishome this spring, put together a
(07:29):
full, detailed report on whatit is I'm putting on the market,
what am I selling.
And when I did that, I hadsomebody, I had a home inspector
come to me and say, man, oh man, this is a beautiful home, well
put together, well built.
However, here are some things.
Here are some things that youneed to be aware of, and it was,
(07:53):
you know, boom, boom, boom, andI was grateful in that moment,
like, okay, I get to addressthis before I put the home on
the market so that when I dosell it, it's not a surprise to
me at that moment, it's not asurprise to the buyer.
I have a much higher likelihoodof selling this home than if I
(08:15):
had waited until an inspectorlooked at it while we were all
trying to get to the closingtable.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
You're exactly right, mike, you hit the nail on the
head.
A pre-listing inspection,majority of people don't get
them and I don't know if they'renot informed to get up, I don't
think they think about it ormaybe, yeah, just not even aware
.
And I have found too that themajority of homeowners you know
they, especially if they've beena homeowner and they've made
(08:40):
this home they think they'reselling the best home, they
think there's nothing wrong withit and of well, and they made
this time.
They think they're selling thebest home, they think there's
nothing wrong with it, right,and of course, they're going to
list it.
They're going to want the topballot for that home.
Yeah, and oftentimes, when aninspection report comes back
from the potential buyer,they're devastated by the amount
of work that's done and they'relike, oh, I'm not going to take
this much off, I don't want tomake these concessions.
Yeah.
So I do think it's wise.
If you're wanting to get topdollar you you know at the
(09:02):
market value for your home, youneed to go to the table with a
seller knowing exactly whatyou're selling, because the
buyer's going to come preparedfor exactly what they're buying.
So why should you be surprisedas well Sometimes if you have a
pre-inspection done, the buyermay accept your inspection
report and waive getting theirown.
They may still get their own andcompare notes.
(09:23):
I've had some where I've justtaken the inspection report
because I know who the inspectorwas.
I reviewed it and then I justmade sure that the requested
changes were made.
So I think it's just afantastic idea.
If you're going to sell yourhome and you want to get to the
top of the market value whichyou think it's worth, you need
to have an inspector get throughit.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, and I know to some people it might seem like
you know why would I do that?
I'm going to have to pay forthat inspection out of pocket,
Correct, but think of it You'reabout to engage in one of the
biggest transactions of yourlife.
What you're going to pay thatinspector to help you get to the
closing table quicker is a dropin the bucket.
(10:05):
It really shouldn't evenregister on the scale of of
overall cost, because it's so,it's so valuable.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
It's a low percentage .
I think a lot of the drawbackis it's out of pocket money, but
a lot of times everything'sfinanced, and sometimes it hurts
when it comes directly out ofyour pocket.
Your average home inspection,though, is only five hundred
dollars, and when I say onlyyour average home is what?
A quarter million plus so fivehundred dollars compared to
protect them, you know a quartermillion dollar investment at
(10:37):
least, even if you don't makeconcessions or that doesn't do
anything to the purchase.
You're getting report of thestory of the home, so that,
after you move in, you know, youknow.
You know the age of yourappliances, you know the age of
all your systems.
You know, like, what potentialhazards could come to a home
down the road.
Not just, hey, worrying about apass fail, which it's not, it's
(10:59):
also a book of information that, three years in, you know your
hot water heater stops working.
Well, oh yeah, we knew that.
We can still refer back to thereport and like, oh yeah, he
said it had that.
Three years in, you know yourhot water heater stops working.
Well, oh yeah, we knew that youcan still refer back to the
report and like, oh yeah, hesaid it had about three years
left.
You can budget for repairs.
You can be more.
I guess knowledge is power,whether you're buying or selling
, the more everybody knows aboutthe home, the happier
everybody's going to be.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
It's reality, it's information.
It's information that you need.
You shouldn't bury your head inthe sand, whether you're
selling or buying.
Yeah, it's in everybody's bestinterest to embrace the home
inspection process Treat it.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, I would advise you treat it for what it should
be and the idea is to informeverybody involved with the
house.
It's not to find deficienciesand try to tear a house down or
scare somebody from buying ahome.
It's to inform somebody likehere's a home, here's
observations we found.
Here's some things you can dofor it.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Have you ever found something that's like way better
than code and you're like, damn, this is great.
Oh, it happens quite a bit Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, and you can tell, and you know you can tell
just good craftsmanship, goodworkmanship, versus there's a
lot of flips now and you see alot of things that are not up to
code.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
They're just trying to get through it so they can
get their money yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And that's big, big business right now Well, it has
been over the last few years isthe flips, and a lot of the
flips come in.
They hit a good target marketfor pricing for first-time
homebuyers.
A lot of first-time homebuyersare in that market or that price
range of flips, and so they'rethe ones that need protected the
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most, because they are the mostscared.
This is their first purchase,this is one of the biggest
things of their life, and now alot of the homes that they're
being looked at are ones thatcould they were flipped.
Now there's great flips.
I'm not putting a bad mark onmany flips.
However, there's bad ones, andwe know a lot of times the
intention of the flip is to getthrough things, so it's to
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protect a first-time home buyeron things of that nature as well
.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
So you're helping people that are vulnerable.
You know that can least affordto make a mistake, a misstep.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, and particularly I know to focus on
first time homebuyers, but thoseare the ones that need the home
inspection the most, becausethose are the ones that are.
They're just so nervous aboutthe entire process and you know
they have a great real estateagent.
They're walking them throughthe whole thing.
But if you can at least holdtheir hand through the what they
know that they're purchasingwhether good made or indifferent
, if they just know what they'repurchasing you can help take
(13:27):
some of that anxiety away fromthem okay.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
So I think we've done a good job of kind of
explaining, you know, thebenefits of a home inspection
service.
Uh, I want to kind of touchbriefly before we get into
another part of your story thatI find so intriguing.
Let's talk about family.
So I've not met anyone in yourfamily.
(13:53):
I've not met your spouse.
I don't know much about them.
So I'm learning along with thelisteners.
Tell me about your family.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Oh, our family is amazing.
So my wife, claudia we've beenmarried back in August was five
years, so a little over fiveyears now.
Children-wise, like I said,empty nesters kind of in a way.
They're still at that age wherethey come and go, but we have
four children.
I've got three stepchildren anddaughters.
(14:22):
Ernesto is our oldest, he is 26.
Let me make sure I get it.
No, I think he turned 27.
I've got three stepchildren anddaughter.
So Ernesto is our oldest, he is26.
Okay, and let me make sure, no,I think about he turned 27.
I got to get ages, right, he's27 now.
So Ernesto is 27.
And he's a electrician as well,like me.
So, yeah, of course, right, youjust can't escape it, you cannot
.
So what a beautiful thing aboutit is working together thing
(14:44):
about it is working together.
Now he's a, you know, he's ajourneyman, looking to get his
masters and working with himside by side on work.
I get now that's you can't beat, that, you just really can't
right.
And then, uh, monica is uh, themiddle daughter and she got
engaged, uh, last week.
Oh, congratulations, yeah,monica, her and matt.
So, yes, she's 25, justrecently engaged.
And then we have the youngestboy, rg RGO.
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He's 23, and he's still kind offiguring out things, doing his
thing, working.
He lives in Indiana.
I don't get to see him as much,but he hangs out.
Then we have the youngest,autumn, my daughter.
She's 22, getting returned 23in May, okay, and so, yeah, she
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just got her first what I callbig girl job.
She finished up college lastyear and just recently got hired
Digital marketing.
That was her major in businessmanagement.
She just recentlycongratulations to her too
started her job.
So yes, four children in thetwenties, I would imagine we're
going to have a lot ofgrandbabies coming years.
So, yeah, no, that's a familyand it's yeah, I guess I love it
(15:52):
okay.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Well, you seem very proud of them.
I am because, yeah, your faceshines when you talk about them
smiling the whole time.
That's a good thing yeah, wellit's.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yes, they haven't families important?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
yes, well, you know, you've, you've got this uh
wonderful family supporting you,and it's a good thing because,
um, the part of the story thatI've alluded to earlier, uh,
multiple stories I don't knowhow we really approach it, but
there's a lot to talk about, alot to unpack, and it's all
around your personal health andI don't really even know where
(16:25):
to start.
But I just want to make surethat we get to talk about it.
Okay, we can't tell all of it,because we'd be here, you know,
all evening, but, however, Iwant to make sure that we give
people, um an understanding ofeverything you've gone through
and how it relates to um, your,your faith, you're, you know,
(16:49):
appreciative of everyone that'skind of supported you and, um,
yeah, so let's, let's get intothat.
Um, I, I know there's anelevator shaft involved yes
because, as we talked, you knowthe the story keep it kept going
backwards and backwards.
You know you kept stepping meback and that started this way,
(17:10):
and that started because of this.
Yes, but the elevator shaft iskind of where I'm starting, so
let's start there.
What happened?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Okay, so I guess that kind of started the well, I
would say, like where my firsthealth issue started, the first
time I found out that I had ahealth issue and the first time
I found out that I had a healthissue and the first time I
realized god was protecting me.
Okay, um.
So yeah, I forget the year Ifell into the elevator shaft
because I had the surgery.
(17:40):
I had the surgery in 2006, sothis must have been right around
2000.
Okay, um, I fell into anelevator shift the electrician.
I was in a commercial building.
Uh, we had a dark outage.
Whole building was out, okay,and we had a freight elevator.
Hit the door in to find thedoor.
We thought the freight was onthis floor.
Apparently it wasn't.
Yeah, so you have to pull thedoor in.
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I went to take a half step into step in the elevator.
When I realized the elevatorwas not there, I couldn't catch
myself.
I fell.
Good thing it was only twofloors down.
Um, I landed on top of theelevator shaft, I busted some
ribs open, hit my head and Isevered a couple ribs.
That was really painful becausefalling into an elevator shaft
only happens in the movies itreally does and in the dark and
(18:24):
landing on top of it, right, notknowing where you're going to
land.
I mean, dude, I don't think Ihad time to think about if I was
going to hit it.
Just I felt the hit, yeah, andthen I pulled out of it.
I climbed up a condo, I pulledmyself up, I was yanking me up,
pulled back out and I dressed inred.
That's incredible and I'm like,well, don't tell nobody, it's
(18:44):
embarrassing.
So I stayed for another threehours at work because I wasn't
bleeding.
I said I'm up on my head andI'm just kind of can't breathe.
Then I went to the hospital.
All right, I was yeah.
Anyway, three hours later, yeah,so long story short on that,
because I'd hit my head.
They got, they did a CAT scanand they told me that they said
(19:05):
they thought I had a brainaneurysm and it's more testing
to happen.
Couldn't find out.
They're like no, no brainaneurysm.
But that's the good news.
The bad news is you have abrain tumor.
So what they found at that timeis I had a floating mass right
between my brain stem and myspinal cord Now non-cancerous.
However, they're like it's avery delicate area.
(19:27):
It's small enough.
It's about the size of a tip ofa eraser or a pencil.
Okay, very small, but if itmoves or attaches it's used.
Now I wasn't having symptomseither.
So they found this because Ifelt I had no idea.
Yeah Well, for six years I hadto get an MRI Just to monitor
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Every quarter, two of them.
You had to slide through, pullthe cage of your head.
They're intimidating, but youget used to them because they're
really.
They land there and they pullthe cage of your head and then
they pull you out and they giveyou a shot of the contrast back
in.
So I had to do that everyquarter for like six years and
that's when I'm.
During that period I startedhaving anxiety issues because
(20:10):
I'm walking around with theunknown of this floating tumor
in the back of my head and itled to some anxiety issues,
which led to some panic attacksunderstandably so, by the way.
It's just the unknowns, it justwore me.
It really did um, but anyway,after six years did um without
symptoms.
One of the mris come back andthey're like hey, we got to do
(20:30):
surgery.
It attached to your brainstem.
Once again like no symptoms.
I didn't know.
I'm like, well, good, let's dothis, because I just it was an
answer.
You know it was an answer.
So I had a surgery done and Iwas in the sixth.
It was successful.
There were some hiccups afterthe surgery, got meningitis in
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my spinal cord fluid.
It almost wiped me out.
I had to get back to thehospital.
That was another few monthsstay.
I got through all that.
It was a really, really roughrecovery Getting back on my feet
, learning to do everything,motor skills, a lot of different
things.
I was able to do it.
I didn't know at the time toprepare me for other things.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
That was just the beginning yeah, because there's
more to come yes, yes, that wasthe beginning.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
That was me at the time, not knowing you know you
always.
What am I going through this?
Why am I going through this?
yeah well now, I know it waspreparing me for what was coming
up later.
Okay, so the beauty of afterthat surgery, too, is it
eliminated the anxiety.
So, because of you know, Iwasn't walking around thinking I
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was just going to fall over.
I survived the surgery, I gotthrough the surgery, I'm back,
I'm healthy and no more pendingattacks.
So that's great.
Everything is going well Then,I guess.
So that's great, everything isgoing well.
(21:58):
Um then, I guess, I guess wejust refer to that because that
was in 06 not just prepared me,so I stayed healthy since.
But then, you know, 2020, hitsgo with hits.
Everything's going crazy.
Um, I just left my job in thecorporate world because the
whole world's shutting down,yeah, and I got really sick.
I went to the urgent care and Iwas coughing blood and coming
(22:19):
out my nose and little things.
I felt horrible for a fewmonths.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
So you took yourself to urgent care.
You're just like hey, what'sgoing on?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, and I felt bad and I was gaining a lot of
weight.
I was gaining a lot of weight.
I'd gone my normal weight backthen.
I was a little heavier.
My normal weight back then wasprobably 220.
I'd swell up to about 240.
I was gaining water weight, notrealizing it because my liver
was failing.
(22:45):
Anyway, when I get an urgentcare, that's when I go your
liver's failing it's really,really bad.
I was there, like I said, andthree days before I went home,
so they found out what the liverfailing I'm at St E's for five
weeks and they're just trying toget everything in order and I'm
in and out, in and out, and itcomes down to like, if I don't
(23:06):
get a liver, you know I'mexpiring, and so, and it comes
down to like, if I don't get aliver, you know my I'm expiring
and so you know the miracle, god.
So I end up getting.
I end up getting a liver within48 hours and you know that
right in itself is the first,another miracle amongst the many
that I've been through, and sowhen that happens, I go through
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the surgery.
Surgery of that is.
That is success.
So now we're in October.
I'm sorry, we're in November of2020.
Oh, let me backpedal again.
I know there's another littlecaveat to part of this story too
.
So when COVID hit and all that,and one of the reasons I kind
of stepped away from work wasthat's when I took my father and
mom into my house because mydad was in the hospice.
(23:48):
He was passing away from cancer, and so I moved them into my
house in the hospice, so I'djust done that.
They'd been at the house andthen all of a sudden, I'd get
sick during the same period, soI ended up going to the hospital
in September.
I'm in the hospital for a monthand my dad passed away, so I
missed all of that during COVID,and then that was.
(24:11):
He passed October to November.
I had to have my transplant.
I got lucky and got atransplant and so that
transplant was in November and Icome out of transplant and it
worked and you know I just feelbetter it worked.
But then comes the other news,like okay, success, but now your
kidneys are failing.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Okay, so right there you've.
You've woken up.
You've had the issue with theliver, yes, and what's the next
thing that hits you?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
so, yeah, so I go, I wake up, um, this is november
from the liver transplant andit's okay, it's a success and I
already feel better because thelast few days monthly up to the
liver transplant, it's a success.
I already feel better becausethe last few days monthly up to
the liver transplant, they'reputting fentanyl patches on me
and I drugged up.
I don't remember a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Did you have the jaundice?
Were you yellow and stuff?
Oh yes.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I looked like a lizard.
I had yellow eyes, I picked upa lot of weight from the water
and everything.
You didn't look like you.
Not one bit.
It was bad.
I got pictures of it.
I got some pictures before andafter, right, yeah, okay.
But so now I have, yeah, soliver's fine, but my kidneys,
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because of the damage that done,from the liver failing and the
surgery of getting a new one,and now my kidneys are not
functioning properly.
All right, so I'm on dialysis.
At this point I wake up.
I'm on dialysis Now, I'm stillin the hospital and this is
COVID, rampant Now as I'mdealing with all this, that was
the first five weeks.
Was that sin?
Then the surgery was done at UCand then I'm in recovery there.
(25:46):
Now, you have to imagine,during COVID, there's no
visitors, right, the rooms are,you're not.
You don't get your own room,you're shared with other people,
they're understaffed, the placeis full.
I mean, nobody knows what to do.
It's COVID and I'm goingthrough these transplants.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, people were kind of making it up as they
went and nobody really knew andit and the whole world's being
shut down by unknowns.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
It's just a bunch of creatures.
And I'm just laying in there inthe middle of it, right?
So, anyway, so it kind of madeit a lot different.
I guess a lot of thinking,because you lay there the whole
time recovering without talkingto nobody.
Yeah, no TVs, no, nothingAnyway beyond that.
So I'm on dialysis andeverything.
(26:30):
At that point I start to getbetter.
They send me to anotherhospital called Encompass.
That's more of a recoveryhospital, because I have to
learn better skills anddifferent things.
I'd learn to walk again.
I don't think I told you aboutthat point either.
When I get out, they send mehome.
(26:50):
It's 103 days Now I go home andit's Christmas Eve.
Really, yeah, it's Christmas Eve.
Oh man, it's a part of thestory too.
I get home, it's blustery,snowing a little bit, super cold
.
I'm in a wheelchair, or no, thewheelchair's not there.
I'm on a walker thewheelchair's not there.
I ordered one.
It's just inside the door.
(27:10):
I didn't know that, but I hadone step to get into the front
door and I got my walker and Igot to take that first step and
I go down.
It's me and my wife and mystepfather.
Well, I can't get up.
So they put a blanket on me,cover me up and they're trying
to get me into the house.
So I tell the joke.
It's like I just spent 100 plusdays in the hospital and it's
like I'm in the desert lookingat an oasis.
(27:31):
I'm sitting on my front porchwith a blanket on me, trying to
get into my house.
I'm so close, I'm so close.
And so they realized that thewheelchair had arrived
previously coming home and theywere able to put the wheelchair
together real quick and slide meinto the wheelchair and get me
into the house.
Okay, but anyway, I justthought that was part of the
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little struggle to get into thehouse.
I made it home and then thephysical therapy and all that
starts.
Now I have these zero kidneys,so to speak, and I'm on dialysis
four days a week that I have togo to.
While I'm in all my physicaltherapy I'm learning to walk
again.
I'm going to dialysis in awheelchair, in a walker.
You know it's a lot, but duringit the kidneys go to end-stage
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renal.
So at this point it's eight anda half months in that I've been
on dialysis and I've removedfrom my liver transplant.
I have to have a kidneytransplant.
They're just not.
They're dead.
So I was because of the livertransplant I was able to go up
the list for transplanteligibility calls some safety
net program because onetransplant caused the other one.
(28:40):
But they're like you know, know, for the longevity of your life
it would be much better to geta live donor versus your
deceased donor.
It's just a lot better for you.
So at that point we talked aboutyou know how do we find a donor
?
Let's get some people swabbed.
You know, you look at, look atwhat's the website look like,
setting up.
You know we would put a wholetogether.
(29:00):
So the first step is you startlooking for a live daughter.
So, you know, I'd asked acouple of family members, my
daughter.
And this is where, once again,the story just takes a turn.
And this is why you know thefaith in God and everything,
just some things you can'texplain.
This is God's will, right?
So my wife, claudia I talkedabout earlier she's born and
raised in Nicaragua.
(29:20):
I tell her she's having to getswabbed and I'm like there's no
sense.
Family members are swabbed.
She insists on it andeverything comes back.
Well, she's the perfect match,mike, that's incredible, yeah,
born and raised in Nicaragua.
You're right, and who would haveever thought.
No, it proves we're all thesame on the inside, no matter
(29:42):
what.
And so, yes, I have her kidney.
It's right in front here andit's a champion kidney.
It's amazing.
The best part of you it is, itis, yeah, she's got me with that
one.
So you know, just getting that,you know, I'm just so blessed
(30:04):
you to be here, to have her.
That her first, the willingnessof her yeah, that's not talked
about enough.
The willingness of her, hersacrifice to give her kidney to
me, yeah, but anyway, so youknow, now I have her kidney and
I'm on the recovery path.
Then there's a hiccup after thatwhen I get organ rejection.
(30:26):
Now, my body's a chemistry lab.
I've been through a lot.
At this point, organ rejectionis kind of crazy.
They had to put many weirdmedicines to try to combat it.
I ballooned to 290 pounds, wow,yeah, in like 11 days, right.
And then they had to givethat's crazy.
(30:49):
Well, then they had to give methese water pills and water
medicine that pulled all off thewater, to pull it all off, and
then I ended up losing thatwhole 90 pounds in like seven
days.
My skin was so tight it feltlike like you stretch a balloon.
Yeah, you couldn't touch me.
It felt like my skin wasburning, it was just so bizarre.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
It doesn't seem like the human body would be able to
withstand that drastic of achange over such a short period
oh, double X clothes wasn'tgetting on me.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
They know shoes fit, come, put socks on.
I mean, it was only for thattwo week period while my body
was going through this organrejection and the medicines they
were giving me, yeah, and thenit was.
At that time I decided to becoming home and specter.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Right yeah, why wouldn't you?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
You know, that's like you know an awful joke with you
know, my wife.
It's you know I'm like, okay,it's like you know I've been
through all this but I'm goingto be okay.
I just, you know, I've gonethrough so much and the fact
that we're still living, it'slike it'll be okay.
I mean, what can you take fromme now?
Right, I got this.
So I'm like what can I do that?
(31:57):
I had some criteria of like youknow, like what am I going to
be when I grow up?
Now I was like you know, I'm amaster electrician by trade.
I got a dozen years in thecorporate world with business
and I need to have somethingwhere I have scheduled
flexibility, because now I havea liver team, now I have a
kidney team, now I have multipledoctor's appointments.
There's a lot there.
So I landed on home inspectorthat checked all the boxes.
If I start my own company, youknow I had that scheduling
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freedom and I can apply thisskill.
So I was able to complete allthe needed training for the hem
inspector online, becauseusually it's in person.
Because of COVID finishing up,they were still allowing online.
So I'm still sick.
I'm finishing up online.
I'm not physically able to doinspections.
So I did all that for the lineahead of time time.
As soon as they allow you to goto the physical part, I'm
(32:42):
physically able, I go down hereand finish up, and then I got to
do, wow, okay.
So I was like I was ready to dothis before.
I was even physically ready todo this.
Yeah, and I think part of myhealing through that was knowing
I was starting a company and itgave me something to do, okay,
something to strive for.
And that's why with thiscompany, that's why it means so
much to me now, because ithelped me heal like it gave me
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something to work for and nowthat it's working, it's just
really passionate about it.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
yeah, so it speaks to the human condition, human will
, speaks to god's hand in things, because, just in terms of the
timing of things, I mean, thestory overall is incredible, and
it's a story still beingwritten.
By the way, now let's pray thatyou know the hospital bed days
(33:32):
are behind you.
Well, we just finished one up.
Yeah, because there was anotherspinal surgery, I mean the that
you know.
When I came to know you, youwere weeks away from this most
recent surgery, so let's talkabout that.
So what?
What did that entail?
Speaker 2 (33:53):
well then, that one was two.
It fell back from the previousone being found.
Once again, these things arefound.
There's a reason why they'refound, you know, uh.
So when I was getting worked upfor the kidney transplant and
after the liver transplant to doa full body, they found the
tumor on my uh, on my spinalcord then.
But it was small and I didn'thave any symptoms and I just
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wanted to live at the time.
So we're like we'll deal withthat at a later date, right,
well, you know, for get, I'mfinally healthy, I'm finally
doing great.
And then back in August, youknow, that sucker reared up his
nasty head and all of a sudden Igot arms going numb right arm,
then left arm, then I'm droppingthings.
I know what's wrong.
I go back to MRIs.
They're like okay, this tumorhas wrapped around your spinal
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cord, we're going to remove partof your spine and we're going
to get it out.
That was tomorrow will be sixweeks when I had that done.
So one of the things I do wantto mention because you talk
about faith and I think it'simportant I want to point out
you know, faith is what hasgotten me through everything,
faith and family, and the quoteI use and I mentioned to you
earlier and I like to tellpeople is when you go through
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things like this, you knowthere's different mentalities
and ways you can take it andsometimes you beat yourself up
like why is this happening to me?
You know why me, why me and Iheard this along the way and I
just started practicing andusing it and it changed.
Everything to me is stoptelling God how big your
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problems are and start tellingyour problems how big your god
is.
And when you do that, you justgive it all to him and all you
gotta do is worry about you,gotta worry about your stress
level goes down, your anxietygoes down.
You know he's gonna handle itfor you and you do your part.
You know you don't just sitaround.
You gotta heal, you gotta doyour part.
You know you don't just sitaround.
(35:41):
You got to heal, you got to doyour part.
But if you just, you know,don't, everything that happens
happens for a reason andanything that has happened
through me that has been anytype of negative impact has had
a positive impact on the otherside.
There's reasons we go throughthings, impact on the other side
.
There's reasons we go throughthings and there's preparation
(36:02):
in which you know I saidprevious to you, mike, is, had I
not gone through the brainsurgeries, the brain surgery and
that health issues back then in2006, I would not have been
mentally prepared to go througheverything I've gone through
recently.
So that was a step and at thetime I didn't know what that was
.
This is hindsight, looking back, and that prepped me for the
(36:25):
transplants.
And then going through all thatand now just having, you know,
tumor of my spinal cord.
To me that was like okay, let'sjust go and get this knocked
out, be laid up for a few weeksand move on, like it's just,
we're okay, we got momentum, youknow, and it's just.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
that gives me that positive perspective and
positive attitude just go ahead,god's got this yeah, sometimes
through what seems to be atragic event, occurrence in our
life, um, as bad as it seems inthat moment, um, as you move
through time and you haveperspective and you look back,
(37:02):
you realize that born of thatmoment has been tons and tons of
blessings, of course, and thereare blessings that will be born
of that, that are ahead of youstill, that you have no idea
what they are, that they'recoming, but they're out there,
of course.
And through time bringsperspective and understanding,
(37:23):
and so all I can say is, from myperspective, looking at you,
it's amazing that you look asgood as you look and that you
have the attitude that you have.
Because I'm sure, not all of thedays have been sunny and rosy.
(37:45):
You're a human and you haveyour human moments, and so it
couldn't have been easy, butI've never known you to complain
or just you've always had agood attitude and, having heard
the story that you just told, um, I have a lot of respect for
you and thank you.
(38:06):
I think that, uh, you know,just having people hear what
you've gone through, everybodyhas their own stories, but they
can kind of relate to whetherit's a medical thing or just
some sort of uh challenge hurdlethat they have to overcome.
They see, gosh, okay, if he canget through that, then there's
(38:29):
hope for me too.
So I appreciate you sharingwith me and with the listeners a
bit of your story.
Yeah, there's a lot more thatyou and I could talk about.
Relative to that and I say thisa lot to my guests it's like we
need to have another podcast totalk about dot dot, dot.
Well, we need to have anotherpodcast to just kind of talk
(38:52):
about, kind of some of ourshared experiences, okay, and
how, uh, they could be used tohelp others who are going
through something tough in theirlife in the moment.
There's people out therelistening to this, whether it's
this week or three or fourmonths from now, because this
(39:15):
podcast is going to live a long,long life.
People will be hearing thismany, many months or years from
now.
Even You're giving hope tosomebody out there.
You just don't know who thatperson is or what the situation
is.
So thank you for doing that.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Thank you for the kind words.
I appreciate it and I do wantto give hope because, yeah, it
sounds like I've been through alot.
Yeah, I've been through a lot.
Okay, cool.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
You have been so admit it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah, but everybody's story is different.
Everybody goes through it.
I'd like to say that you know,I'm a cautionary tale and I
don't mind talking about it,because I think, at the end of
the day, anything is achievablewith the right mindset, and
that's business.
That's getting through health,that's getting through
relationships, that's gettingthrough anything.
I mean, if you just you know,have faith and have a good
(40:09):
attitude, that can fix anything.
Yeah, I believe that.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah Well, thank you for sharing.
I think with that message we'llend things on that beautiful
note.
Fair enough, yeah, I'm proud tobe your friend and I'm proud to
have you here today to helptell your story.
I appreciate that.
(40:35):
Mike, everybody, there you go.
There's a one man's um kind ofperspective on on life and
overcoming, uh, some of thestuff that happens to people.
Um, you know, chris has hadmore than his share of human
things happen to him, but, um,when you reach out, uh and share
(40:57):
your experience with others,they can kind of see themselves
in you a little bit.
You never know who you'rehelping when you're sharing and
when you're being vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
So, thanks, for doing that.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Yeah, absolutely All right.
Everybody Well ends thisedition of the Good Neighbor
podcast.
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for listening, untilnext time.
Everybody be good to yourneighbor.
So long, thanks for listeningto the Good Neighbor Podcast
Union.
To nominate your favorite localbusinesses to be featured on
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the show, go to GNPUnioncom.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
That's GNPUnioncom, that's gmpunioncom, or call us
at 859-651-8330.
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