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Sonic’s Friendly Nemesis Knuckles #1
00:00 Intro
06:02 Rites of Passage! Part 1
42:47 Outro
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Got to talk fast. Got to talk fast.
Got to talk faster, faster faster.
Got to talk fast. I legitimately do get gayer
around you and it's not because people do and it's like I don't
want to fuck you at all. Most people don't.
Also, trust me, it's a bad problem to have.
It's so nice to do this in person.
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You're. Going to break that.
I, I it's a paper, I can put thepieces together.
Unless you think I'm going to tear it so hard 'cause you're
tearing into like 1000 pieces. 'Cause you're strong.
Welcome to an oral review of Archie Comics Sonic the Hedgehog
reminding you that prepping for the apocalypse is a total red
herring. It gives the act of prepping a
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bad name. Prepping for prolonged periods
of inclement weather. Utility, outlet outage, economic
instability, or pandemics is a legitimately good use of your
time and resources. Don't go all in, collect
resources from knowledgeable people who aren't insane or
trying to push a product in a biased way.
It can be expensive, so plan ahead based on your environment
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and siphon off a little bit of your paycheck.
Cost effective food, no fluff medical supplies, home
reinforcement, car tools, pet preparedness, even a basic
review of your surrounding area.There's probably something you
can be doing to prepare for a disaster like a flood, tornado,
extended power outage, or worse.I'm Nick and except for this
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intro, I wrote the script. And I'm Dominic, and except for
this intro, I haven't read any of today's.
Script. That's great.
How are you, Dominic? It's been so long since we've
done this in person. I don't even.
It's so nice to see your actual face.
It's it's actually, do you have a piece of glass I can put
between us? That way I can be like hey this
is how I feel about this, feels much better.
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My my eyes are just so much moreintoxicating in person than
something our audience will never get to see.
Or do you want? Do you want to?
I don't have any like fun littlestories or anything.
OK, really. No, I mean I think I got
depressed in Indiana. And that's everyone in Indiana.
Well, yeah. I was really just taking in the
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culture, I think. What culture of depression?
That's Ohio. 'S thing.
No, I mean, definitely felt likeit in Indiana.
I, I realized I was probably notin a great place mentally
because I, I, I'm fine, obviously now because I was
working so much and I literally like sat in a parking lot and
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ate an entire bag of Cheetos while listening to the song
green light by Lord for on like for an hour repeated.
And I was just like, this is something healthy people do,
right? You know what's funny is that I
was also in my car kind of down and.
It's because we weren't podcasting and we were on the
same wavelength. Yeah, I, I I was eating a bag of
Cheetos. Hell yeah.
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What kind of Cheetos do you do? The puffs.
So it really depends on my mood.Yeah, so happy, happy.
His puffs. So I was lucky that I I, I went
healthy here because I did eat awhole bag of Cheetos, but so it
wasn't Cheeto Cheetos. It was like healthy Cheetos that
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I don't know, it's some brand that put tries pushing
themselves is like, oh, we, you can have as much as us as you
want. We're healthy.
And that's not true. But it is probably better than,
you know, regular Cheetos. There are still like serving
sizes. Hey man I I do everything by the
bag so as long as it says serving size 1 bag I'm good to
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go. Of course this was a family size
bag so and it didn't have that warning.
You don't have a family? Yeah.
Well, that that's the annoying thing is I was promised enough
to feed a family, but here I am by myself with an empty bag
sitting in a parking lot, sad listening to.
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Small, crunchy. It was small, crunchy, Yeah.
It sounded the same way. The same way.
It is a mood thing because the puff, it melts, it melts in a
way where it sticks to your teeth.
And sometimes I'm just like, I don't want to fucking deal with
this. But at the same time, and I'm
going, I guess we're podcasting now because I'm going on the
record. So you have to include this now.
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White cheddar Cheeto puffs are the best Cheeto.
That's not what on the record means, by the way.
I do need to point that out. On the record means you can use
it if you want to. Off the record.
On the record means you're forced to print what I say.
Got it. OK, so white cheddar Cheetos
pipes. I've had white cheddar cheez its
and those are great. I'm not Cheez, its guy.
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Fair enough, but oh you know what?
I'm not either until I had the white cheddar ones.
I'll have to try them. I will.
And so welcome to our podcast where we talk about cheese and
cheese related podcast. This is our Processed food
episode where we're going to start talking about Cheetos
cheeses. I do go off on snacks for like
at least 1/2 hour. Hey.
Man, this is going to be a shortepisode.
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I think so. Time stamps in the description.
Let's front load this with cheese talk cheese.
It's I don't it has like almost like a burnt cheddar taste to
it. I don't like that.
Do you know what I'm talking? About I do know what you're
talking again. Again, I I exclusively do the
white because of that. Because of that I exclusively do
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the white cheddar ones. Not a goldfish guy either.
I have moved away from it myself, yes.
And I I think I've realized I'm not a huge cooked cheese kind of
flavour guy like I don't want. You've had better.
You've had good cheese before inyour life.
Oh. Yeah, man, come on.
I don't. I don't mess with this American
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cheese. American cheese is legitimately
one of the worst cheeses. Yeah, but nothing melts like it.
The I I don't remember what I was going to say.
I. Melts like you're 4 O 1K like
America climate change. OK, so.
What are we reading today, Dominic?
We are reading Sonic's friendly nemesis Knuckles, released in
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May of 1996, and this is the first of a three-part
miniseries. It's just called Knuckles
miniseries I think. No, Go back up.
Sorry. You're right.
You're right. Go back up.
Oh, Rites. Of rites of passage I.
Missed that, I apologize. Written by Ken Penders and Mike
Kanternovich. I'm realizing right now that I
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tried copying and pasting the that was APDF I was reading for
the intro and I'm realizing I didn't double check it to see if
it copied correctly. I might just read it from here.
I know for a fact it starts withO instead of of, so I'm not
confident in this. Yeah, you're right.
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Written by Ken Penders and Mike Antonovich, penciled by Art
Mohini and shout out to cover artists Patrick Spaziante and
Harvey Mercadocasio. Mercadocasio.
OK, OK, so this is some interesting typeface.
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This looks like medieval to me. Well, I feel like they're trying
to do like a mix. So for the record, this is an
intro page, so it's like a the first page of a storybook.
And they've done this, they've done this multiple times.
I think with Knuckles specifically, I don't know, just
special, just mini series and specials where they'll have a
whole page dedicated to like a preview.
For Princess Sally. Also, yeah.
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And it's a, it's a, it's just like a, hey, here's where we are
in the whole grand story. But this, this typeface is very
unique. It looks it, it's you.
It was going for what you were saying.
Well, no, I think medieval not. The more I sit with it, the more
I think you're right. I think it is.
I was originally thinking like fairy tale, kind of just.
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Ancient, just old in general. It's not literally medieval.
Like that's not what they're going for.
Well, I mean, it was literally medieval.
I wouldn't be able to. Read it.
Yeah, that's true. So, OK, how do we how do we read
this? Like Monique, do you know what a
hurdy gurdy is? No.
So it's a medieval instrument I believe.
Oh yes, I do know it. Oh, keep on.
Going and it drones and it makeslike it just literally make I
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mean you can make multiple sounds or multiple pitches, but
it's most like most instruments,but this one is known for being
a droning instrument that really, really goes on and on
and then like a typical hurdy gurdy song.
So I I've never played it. I just read up on this.
It it goes on for like 30 verses, which is like the
average because it's like medieval storytelling or
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whatever of that time. Yeah, it.
Felt like you're trying to do Halo there.
Of the countless natural wonderson the planet Mobius Nunskin
compare to the on majesty of theFable Floating Island.
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Its secrets, including those of the legendary Chaos Emerald, are
preserved and protected by the Knuckles, the Enchidna.
He is the most current Sentinel in the long line of guardians.
Though forever apart from the affairs of those who dwell
below, the island has its own unique tales of true triumph and
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tragedy. Raised to lofty heights by the
power of science technology, there's a comma there.
Raised by the heights of the lofty power of science,
technology would eventually prove a double edged sword and a
culture's ultimate downfall. Once home to the most advanced
society in living memory, the land has since reverted back to
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wilderness. But buried deep beneath the
shadow of Mount Fate lies signpost to a checkered past and
the artifacts of days perhaps best forgotten.
Still, history has a knack for refreshing the memories of those
who failed to heed its lessons, and that is where our story be.
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So I've got exciting news for you.
I've wrote the entire script like that, so have fun our.
Story begins deep within the bowels of the fabled floating
island above the planet of Mobius.
A vast underground complex is about to be invaded by Knuckles.
These are the ruins of a once ancient city that is buried
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under Mount Fate. Knuckles arrives at a room full
of trap doors, complex infrared arrays, motion sensors, trip
wires, and pressure plates. One would expect a Catherine's
Hated Jones from the movie Entrapment kind of finesse.
However, Knuckles doesn't have that kind of control over his
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body, so he just runs through the room, activating every trap
that comes his way. Using the traps to destroy other
traps. He successfully makes it to the
next room. However, he hears a noise above
him. Knuckles looks up and sees a
boulder rolling towards an Indiana Jones style.
He successfully outruns the boulder.
We cut to the exterior slash above ground.
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Mount Fate explodes and a silhouette of a predator ask man
with a spear stands on the now exploded cap.
Knuckles keeps wandering the ruins of the ancient city when
he comes across a concussive blaster.
He uses it on a door he found that is welded shut.
Knuckles keeps wandering when hehears a voice come over an
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intercom. What did we say?
Archimedes's voice was. We, we are at that point where
we need to have like a file of just like the voices you've
done. Yeah, I have.
I don't remember he, I mean he'sAustralian little.
I was calling him a cricket. I don't know if that.
Yeah, some kind of insect. Yeah, but I don't, I don't
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remember. He's a fire Ant.
I know he's a. Fire Ant now they we're getting
there. How many Australians have we
done? At least three.
Right. I mean every, every single
fucking thing Ken Penders does is like Australia adjacent so.
British, Yeah. Yeah, and he.
Can't get out of. He can't escape the
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Commonwealth, it seems. Was this the guy?
They were like you're you shoulddo Crocodile Dundee or
something. I think so, but it was like not
it was. And then we put another spin on
it. Yeah, I, I don't remember.
This is what happens when we don't record for like three
weeks in a row. Because he's an Ant.
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What do ants sound like? And then we made, I feel like we
made a joke about the the movie ants.
Did you just do your Stallone? No, I didn't do Stallone.
I did not do Stallone. Did you do a Woody Allen with
Aussie? Can I do a Woody Allen?
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Can I do a Woody Allen without being like super racist?
I could, but if it's an accurateWoody Allen it'd be super
sexist, no? Yeah, you would just sound like
a pedophile. Which is more important?
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Side note, I bought ants becauseI haven't seen ants in forever
and we started talking about ants and it was like I should
probably rewatch. Ants.
It's probably not as good as youremember, but as I remember but.
I mean, I still quote it all thetime, OK?
Which is more important? Your friends are the threat to
the floating island had you fought.
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This is a bad idea. It's it's up to you whether you
can you're. Putting this on me.
Yeah, OK. Just remember when we canceled
Dominic, I said. I just sat there and I did not
participate. All right, we'll we'll do
Aussie. Which is more important.
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That's not. I was like, yeah, I'm just going
to stumble through this your your friends or the threat to
your floating island. Had you fight together instead
of separately, you wouldn't be here.
Still, intelligence aside, your performance has been adequate,
turning the conservatories defences against themselves
elegant and it's simplicity through a although A trifle
melodramatic. Still, you correctly reason that
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the key to the present lies in the past, that the path best got
it holds both the most peril andthe brightest promise.
Knuckles walks into a room whereSPL, Mighty, Charmy, and Vector
are all sitting, enjoying lunch with Archimedes and his robot
friends. Knuckles is offered some spare
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ribs from Vector. I don't want your lunch, Vector.
I want answers. So you're the big Mamma Jamba
Archimedes. I've been thinking, wise guy,
and my train of thought led me here to the Grand Conservatory.
Obviously you've got hold of my ancestors, abandoned technology,
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hot wired these robots and made them do your dirty work.
What I don't understand is how you disappeared last time in the
Chaos Chamber and carved your initials into a solid hunk of
solid granite. You're small, but hardly
invisible. Just then, Archimedes vanishes
in a puff of smoke and reappearsbehind Knuckles.
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Blue spoken mirrors the magician's eye.
A little misdirection goes a long way.
And for the rest, Archimedes shoots fire out of his tiny
insect mouth and Knuckles. Think your hot stuff, huh?
As a matter of fact, I do. My people have pulled in kidna
fat out of the fire more times than I can count as far back as
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the origin in this island. A voice boom from behind
everyone and a hand that is glowing green appears.
OK, what's the voice for this character?
He's a surfer bro. Oh.
It's Dimitri. Yeah, but it's not.
I know that, but it's not going to change.
It's not. We're not going to change it.
I mean that is AI guess now is the time to decide.
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Because this feels like it's going to be a permanent
character. Yeah, I agree, but also last
time we saw him he had a surfer voice.
That's true, That's true. But.
He hasn't done anything since. Different now, though.
He's got like, he's like the Predator.
So do a Predator surfer. Yeah, do a bunch of clicks in
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there, you know? Yeah, OK, here we go.
Just like that. A voice boomed from behind
everyone and a hand that is glowing green appears.
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The fire run is corrupt. The fire run is correct.
This kind once thwarted during will.
But but what was We're going to fucking like Foley this shit,
the two of us. But what was long, long ago?
Does he talk? Can he do that while talking?
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Why not? Because he's got like multiple
manuals. I have grown, learned, evolved
during my imprisonment been imprisonment beneath Mount Fate.
The Ankita scientist Dimitri is no more Energeac.
Enerjack. Reign Supreme Enerjack now
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appears in full frame. He has the vibes of Predator
from the hit film Predator. Shut the fuck up in.
That case people don't know whatI'm talking about.
You have to explain. You should explain commando
before it. No, but with a golden mask and
armor that has ancient Egyptian vibes.
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The Chaotic's crew all gang up and charge Enerjac.
But Enerjac sends out an energy wave and all the crew are now
floating inside an energy wave, unable to move.
Now that now that your unexpected show of resistance
has been extinguished, events may proceed in an orderly
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fashion. Though in Kinopolis as long
since fallen bro, my dreams of conquest yet endure.
These chaotics could prove useful to me in the world that
is coming. But you, the descendants of
those who arranged my defeat, deserve a better fate.
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I hope all that was audible. Archimedes and Knuckles go
flying and disappear. They awake on a sand dune in the
middle of the desert. There is a skeleton of a beast
with three eyes next to them andsome horns.
Having no idea where they are, they begin their long journey
home, wherever that is. End of the first of three.
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Yeah, so the the like this was mainly just like running through
traps and stuff. So unfortunately.
A lot of action, the establishment, you know, the
rising action and just kind of OK by the end of it.
The last panel of them just in the deserts and just, you know,
like, OK, here's our actual story, which now we're going to
spend two of the three resolving.
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So I want to open yes with the most interesting question I
think is so this means fire antsare intelligent and knew what
they were doing and destroyed. I I guess.
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I in in the last story In the last story fire ants saved
Knuckles ancestor by freeing himfrom the shackles to the wall
and by the fire ants burrowed through the wall.
So are they sentient or not that?
They have to because he knows about it.
Now here's the thing. Here's the thing.
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Either either there are three options, either they're not
sentient or likely no, there's only two actually.
Now either they're, they were fully sentient the whole time,
or they became sentient between now and then.
Because remember, 500 years giveor take have passed.
Assuming I did the math, assuming each of those
descendants in in that one frame, you know that one panel,
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I did the math assuming on an average that they had kids at
the age of 35, about 500 years that would have passed.
I So is that enough? For an Ant to gain sentience,
full sentience? I don't think so.
And intelligence speaking. Well, but on top of it, because
like, Archimedes knew about the event and said that like, we've
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saved your butts before. And so to me that means that
either they were sentient or like there is like the
beginnings of sentience and likethat's their like Bible.
I I think it yeah, that could bethat.
That's their lore, That's their culture as well.
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Now, in, in those frames, I'm not going to show it because I
don't want to look through it, but those, those panels where it
showed the ants from previous, it's they were not wearing
clothing, No. So it did not immediately
signify that they had civilization or sentience.
Which is, yeah. Which then brings me to a bigger
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problem with this comic, which is just.
I feel like everything is sentient, yeah.
I don't know. And everyone's eating these
animals, man, these sentient animals.
Everyone's eating these sentientanimals.
Like, where does a chili dog come from?
You know that classic question. Yeah.
And also. Plato said that first, right?
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Oh, you're serious? I thought you were making a
joke. No.
No, no, that is obviously a joke.
OK, I don't think Plato had processed meats to make AI
thought there was a. Character.
I thought there was a character named Plato.
Oh no, I'm talking. The Plato OK, The Plato that we
know, OK Was Plato a hedgehog? No.
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I can make him one with Plato. Oh my God, I don't know.
I don't know. I I, I think we just have to
assume that they've always been sentient.
I I agree that just makes everything insane, but I think
this is actually maybe even low on the totem pole for insanity
that we're about to witness because we're already off at
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like 100. This guy, Enerjack is his name
now. Dimitri is now Enerjack.
That's I don't like the name. It's a bad name, the.
Bad, bad name. I will always say shout out.
I will. We need to shout out the art
more. The panels where it's it cuts to
Ener Jack just no words and he'sjust going through shit.
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He's going where Knuckles had just gone through in complete
silhouette. That's cool.
I think that's cool. That did add some tension where
it's like, whoa, who's this character?
What's going on? I mean I could kind of tell
because of the green outline, but like still.
I mean, did you not realize right away that who it was?
No, I mean once he announced himself and it's like I, I am
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Dmitri no more. Yes.
Oh, I knew. Yeah, no, I'm saying I I figured
that because of the green outline, I said that.
But in terms of like, it's stillit it within the store, it's
like, oh, this fucker's back. I mean, we knew he was going to
be back. I didn't think he'd be back so
soon. I thought they were going to
fucking build up Archimedes morelike what?
So, so now, OK, now we're going to get into the plot pacing of
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this thing again, which is that it's sloppy.
It's so sloppy. It's like you just entered.
Well, you didn't introduce him, but like you just revealed
Archimedes and now he's Knuckleshis ally at the last panel.
I mean I I feel like that was always.
I got the vibe that Archimedes wasn't an enemy the entire time,
so I assumed this is exactly what was going to happen.
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That's The thing is that Nick has good instincts in terms of
predicting because he watches somany movies.
He actually has very good instinct on, like predicting a
plot. Yeah.
Or it's because I've got ADD andreally good pattern recognition?
That too. That too I I am very easy to
manipulate. I mean, I got him onto this
podcast. Exactly.
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He would have never done this willingly.
Oh boy. This.
Is just this is just this is. Just dumb man.
You just keep throwing animals at the fucking wall.
I have. No, I have.
I'm not into this. So I'm going to talk about one
of my broader complaints is I, Ithink who, whoever, who, who
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designed this one? I let me say this, I am into
this in the sense that I do wantto get through it and like find
out what happens, but I'm not enjoying myself.
I think that's going to be the majority of your time with
Archie Comics. If I if I had one guess it's
going to be I want to know, but I don't want to do this.
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And we're going to slowly grow to hate ourselves.
But we're going to make money off of it.
I don't think we will. In fact, it's going to be a
money sink, which makes it even worse.
Hell yeah. One of the things that really
annoys me is I feel like they'retrying to have their cake and
eat it too. In terms of the design of
everything they're doing this ancient temple kind of thing
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vibe for, Obviously that's exactly what they're doing.
You're going to a room full of traps, like pressure plates, all
that stuff. You literally have the Indiana
Jones esque. Boulder.
So they're going for this vibe of ancient civilization, but and
and it looks like a temple. All of the designs in this area
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is a temple, right? But every single like photo
we've seen of. Into into.
Cop the old city, it's been likesuper advanced tech.
It doesn't look ancient in any way shape or form.
If anything it looks it has thatlike future ancient kind of vibe
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if that makes sense. Yeah, you could.
You could argue that this was like, oh, it's like a vault and
this is where they stored things.
And they decided to just dress it up like Aztec temple.
Yep, like the old ways that. 'D be a really dumb argument to
make. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no. Where are we?
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So that's why I was lying down. I knew.
So by the end of the ancient, the history lesson we got from
Knuckles, right, by the end of it, the people of Inkanopolis,
they rejected technology and they went back to the land.
So they're like, hey, this is our society now.
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That no, I'm pushing back because where they're at right
now is in what existed. This is the vault that they put
all their ancient weapons and stuff in.
And they were like, hey, screw all this.
But this existed is what I'm saying.
Screw all this glass, right? Screw all this glass and and
modernism and shit. We're going to do ancient
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carvings because that's how we roll now.
Reject technology. Embrace the past.
Follow my podcast. OK, I do follow your podcast
every episode I listen to Man the Mix.
Of old and new technology is is cool.
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I think it it gives me it gives me Star Wars Knights of the Old
Republic vibes because it's StarWars so everything has to be
future. But they also do ancient stuff
as well. I mean how could everything in
Star Wars takes place in the past dude.
Sure, you know what I mean. I'm, I'm just saying you kind of
sounded like a dumb ass right now.
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You're like, Oh yeah, Star Wars of the future.
Like, bitch, did you read the prologue, the scroll a long time
ago? No.
One reads the scroll. They just let they close their
eyes, listen to the John Williams.
They're like, yeah. Yep.
Oh man, I like, I like vector eating spare of ribs that I I, I
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wasn't gonna include that originally, but I was like,
that's absurd in a way that I feel like I need to put it in
the. Script.
He's a crocodile, yeah. No, it's more just the fact that
they're in this like ancient temple eating spare of ribs.
I just realized this Archimedes is wearing a a necklace of
teeth. Where do those teeth come from
'cause they're Ant sized? I mean, technically, yeah.
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Oh, you think he does big game hunting with other insects?
Oh, 1000. Percent he's.
A he Yeah, dude. And he's working on hunting the
most dangerous game. Which is.
For him, at least, not us. I just the chaotics are are
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captured again. Yeah, another dude shows up and
recaptures the chaotics. That you are.
That didn't even cross my mind. We just spent how many fucking
issues trying to get the chaotics back and we get the
chaotics back and literally for like not, not even a whole
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issue, not even half an issue. It's like 3 frames.
One of them's just eating fucking spare ribs and then and
then they get captured again immediately.
This is so fucking bad. What the fuck are we doing?
This is why I hate big teams. This is legitimately why I hate
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big teams because it's like brahjust stop.
If it's one person, fine, I'll still complain but at least it's
whatever. You're distributing all this
attention over like 5 different dudes that keep getting captured
and it's not engaging. Well, that and it's like we
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haven't grown to care for any ofthese characters.
No, yeah, there was like one story and then the next they
played tag. Yeah, and then Archimedes showed
up in that too for some fucking reason.
I still don't understand why he showed up.
He was like stalking them. He was so like meta wise he was
like, I was like oh to tease thevillain and like.
Well, yeah, I know. I understood that aspect.
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But it just doesn't make sense as to why he was sick.
Yeah, that was. You know how I feel bad for?
I feel, I feel, scroll up. I feel bad for that child who's
like, yeah, I'm Knuckles, I'm cool.
I'm the coolest guy around, man.You get lame stories.
I mean so he saws the video games.
That's true. Knuckles hasn't done a laugh
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like in the games. He gets tricked, that's his
whole thing, yeah. But he doesn't.
He didn't do a laugh where he like crosses his arms and like
ha ha ha. Ha, oh we didn't play Sonic and
Knuckles yet he does that. No, sorry in the game.
I know he does that in the games, but he hasn't done that
in the comic. I should have specified, sorry.
Oh yeah, yeah. Because nothing funny has
happened yet. Yeah, what bullshit.
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Why? Why is he he should be crossing
his arms all the time and laughing at everyone.
How do you like the Oh, that wasthe other thing is I hate the
design of Enerjack. Also not not I I actually kind
of dig this like predator vibe that they are going for.
I don't actually know if they'regoing for a predator vibe, but
that is. The vibe.
That I get, but I hate the fact that they're like, let's throw
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in like ancient Egypt with it and they're mixing.
I just don't like. It's, it's exoticism for the
sake of exoticism, which is veryproblematic.
Those are big words. Those are big woke sounding
words. But what I'm trying to say is
that you're just tossing a bunchof.
Those are normal sized words by the way.
They are no but for like for theInternet.
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They're big dumb gay words, but like for for I sound too smart
is my problem, which is funny because I'm not.
But anyway, the he's just penders and conservatives are
just throwing in cultures for the sake of throwing in cultures
like you were saying with the ancient Aztec temple looking
thing. And it's like nothing's
cohesive. Nothing is cohesive.
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It's just ancient for the sake of ancient and it's not gelling
at all. I understand that 'cause I do
get annoyed every now and then. Or it's like, oh, this whole set
of people are just space France,or they're just, oh, ancient,
you know, ancient, yeah, like ancient Egypt, the faction,
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right. That's the thing.
Some sometimes it works like Warhammer 40K, the Necrons, but
other times it's like, no, you're just trying too hard and
it's too whatever. In this case, it not only
doesn't work, it's because you're throwing in so much shit
and not blending it together into one.
It it's it's just weird and it doesn't it or not.
Well, yes, we are, but also justnot gelling at all.
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And it doesn't feel cohesive because all we're all we're
thinking is Egypt, as opposed towhat Ken really wants us to
think about, Penders and Katarovic want to think about
which is an actual culture. Yep.
I do think that the most interesting about thing about
this whole issue thus far is thecanonical map we get of the
floating island. I feel like this is a canonical
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and this is going to change. I agree.
I concur, but it's there. So it gives us a scale.
Oh. Every 10 miles is 1 inch.
So this is. Not very big.
Well, No 10 miles every one inch, so well, it's probably
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like 80 miles across long wise. That's decent.
OK. No, you're right.
You're right. It is.
But also like, I don't know, man.
Lake Nessie. I just feel like they kind of
just threw shit at the wall and they're like, oh, these were the
cities in the game. So we got, we got to put Marble
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Zone here, we got to put Ice CapZone here.
Yes. There's the zoot shoot.
I find it interesting that the chaos chamber is apparently not
in the center of the island. I truly just assumed it was.
Did they? Why wouldn't the thing that
powers the island be in the middle of?
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I don't know, I'm sorry, is yourfucking car engine in the middle
of your car? It can be.
But is it? If it's electric, yes.
Oh, you're fucking? Lib Elon Musk.
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Yeah, The other interesting thing is how tiny the city was.
Yeah, I looked way bigger. Because that means the city is
only 10 miles. Yeah.
What the fuck is this map? Every single image we've seen
has been like the whole island was.
I don't think this is cannon. I think we need to just assume
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this is just like pretend there's no scale and just know
that there's a river that goes across the whole.
Island. It's a vibes thing, yeah.
We we can't. We can't trust this.
So what? Do you think's going to happen
next? Well, that's the interesting
thing is Penders is so like off the wall with where he's going
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with this. I, I legitimately let me, let me
think for a second. I would love to know that the
dynamic between Penders and Ken Turnovich, like like who, who,
who goes all in, who pulls back?Because right now we're assuming
it Penders goes all in and Ken Turnovich is just there or.
No, I think, I think, I think he's holding him back.
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Yeah, yeah, that's what I that'smy assumption based off of
nothing, just the vibes of what how the community talks about
Ken Penders. It comes down to, I'm not sure
if I understand his powers yet. We have all these guys in a
force field, right? The chaotics crew, obviously he
can teleport people. I don't know if he's got like a
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mind control. He's talking about the chaotics
crew being useful. I don't know how they could be
useful but if giving the abilities of the chaotics crew I
would think he they he's going to use them to steal something.
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Probably the energy siphon of the the thing that broke.
Did it break? Did they destroy it?
I don't remember seeing that. The the weird looking thing that
he. They destroyed the city that I
remember. I don't know if they destroyed
that machine or not, but I wouldthink he's like I need.
I want to get that last cast emerald to siphon it off, and I
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would think he's got a real destroy the world kind of vibe
and he hates this island, so he's going to try to crash it
into Mobius, I think. Yeah, I think that there's going
to be some sort of heist and he's going to try to colony drop
Angel Island, that is. I enjoy that plot anytime they.
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They do a colony. Drop yeah, on from Angel Island.
That's cool. I just think that's fun.
I agree, Colony drop is always good writing.
Always I don't have any ideas onit's got to be Archimedes.
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There's going to be push and pull.
Knuckles is like I got to go save my friends.
Archimedes is probably like no, we need to go get this ancient
weapon that the ancients made tofight against Ener Jack because
they knew he'd come back and it is a thing.
Oh you want to be more interesting is if they both have
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the same goal of getting the siphon and he needs to use a
siphon to siphon off ener Jack and.
To defeat him? Yeah, you.
Suck him, suck him off, get thatchaos energy off of him and.
Ener Jack him off. That was good too.
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That was good A plus. Thank you.
And then, yeah, so OK, I'm back.What what what the plot is is
they're both looking for the energy siphon.
Knuckles and Archimedes lose, hegets the energy siphon and then
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the Catix crew team up with Knuckles and Archimedes.
They somehow get something to that's going to be just so you
know, Deus Ex machina kind of thing when.
And then they're going to take the energy that Enerjack has,
siphon it into the Chaos Emerald, and make the Master
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Emerald. OK, OK.
And then that's how he bring, that's how.
That's how the master Enerols introduced.
And that's how Penders and Katrina, which brings us back to
the games, but unifies it. I like that.
I like that. I.
Don't know if the Master Emeraldexists yet canonically.
I don't know. Even in the games, I don't, I
don't know. I think it's adventure.
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I don't know if adventure's the first time it's introduced.
Here. That's the first knowledge I
have. 96 is when this comes out.That means that the story of
Sonic Adventure has been being written.
They are canceling it on the Sega Saturn and bringing it over
to the Dreamcast. So there probably is a vague
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story and they probably told I, I, I think that's where this is
going. They're going to make a Master
Emerald. That's that's my call.
If there's ever a time to do it,it's this.
It's this mini series. Yeah, I like it.
I like that. I like it a lot.
Will they do it? I'm not.
Have no fucking clue but. Well, I mean, I don't even know
if that's good writing. That's just where I predict this
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is going. I could be way off.
Characters. Are there any other than
Knuckles? Like any real characters here.
No, I mean no one has a personality yet, so.
Yeah. I don't know if I've got overall
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thoughts. Do you like where this is going?
Are you? Excited.
I I I really don't have much investment into this because,
yeah, no one is a character except Knuckles, and that's only
because he's been monologuing. Shout out to What do you think
about those pages where he's walking across the comics?
I hate it. You hate it.
It's too meta. It's too.
Yeah, it's too. Meta.
I mean I think design wise it looks cool but.
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For a different for a different context, it'd be cool.
Yeah, I just don't like it for this.
Yeah, I I agree. I agree.
It takes me out of it. For for context for the audio
listeners only, they do a like flashback to the earlier comics,
but they put it like on the floor of Knuckles and so he like
he's literally like standing on the issues of the comics looking
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at them so. Explain like, yeah, catching you
up, Yeah. Exactly.
In better detail than the originally like debuted.
I don't think I've got really anything else I want to cover
unless you do. No, because it's just the start.
And yeah. And that's the issue.
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(43:35):
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So. In case you haven't gathered, we
can't bring up the the script and you'd think by now we would
nail it and we kind of did, I think.
We're doing OK. We're.
Doing OK actually. First time off book, yeah.
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So yeah, anyway, when left keepsgoing fast.
We got to talk fast. And just get through it.
I love you. Gotta Talk, Gotta Toss, Gotta
Talk Fast was written by Nick Folkerts and edited by Dominic
Guanzon. Intro and outro themes recorded
by Dominic Guanzon Gotta Go Fast.
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Originally composed by Norman J Grossfeld, Joseph Garrity and
Russell Velazquez. Gotta talk, gotta talk fast.
(45:23):
Gotta talk fast. Gotta talk fast.
Gotta talk fast.
Got to talk fast. Got to talk fast.
Got to talk faster, faster faster.
Got to talk fast. I legitimately do get gayer
around you and it's not because people do and it's like I don't
want to fuck you at all. Most people don't.
Also, trust me, it's a bad problem to have.
It's so nice to do this in person.
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You're. Going to break that.
I, I it's a paper, I can put thepieces together.
Unless you think I'm going to tear it so hard 'cause you're
tearing into like 1000 pieces. 'Cause you're strong.
Welcome to an oral review of Archie Comics Sonic the Hedgehog
reminding you that prepping for the apocalypse is a total red
herring. It gives the act of prepping a
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bad name. Prepping for prolonged periods
of inclement weather. Utility, outlet outage, economic
instability, or pandemics is a legitimately good use of your
time and resources. Don't go all in, collect
resources from knowledgeable people who aren't insane or
trying to push a product in a biased way.
It can be expensive, so plan ahead based on your environment
(01:07):
and siphon off a little bit of your paycheck.
Cost effective food, no fluff medical supplies, home
reinforcement, car tools, pet preparedness, even a basic
review of your surrounding area.There's probably something you
can be doing to prepare for a disaster like a flood, tornado,
extended power outage, or worse.I'm Nick and except for this
(01:29):
intro, I wrote the script. And I'm Dominic, and except for
this intro, I haven't read any of today's.
Script. That's great.
How are you, Dominic? It's been so long since we've
done this in person. I don't even.
It's so nice to see your actual face.
It's it's actually, do you have a piece of glass I can put
between us? That way I can be like hey this
is how I feel about this, feels much better.
(01:49):
My my eyes are just so much moreintoxicating in person than
something our audience will never get to see.
Or do you want? Do you want to?
I don't have any like fun littlestories or anything.
OK, really. No, I mean I think I got
depressed in Indiana. And that's everyone in Indiana.
Well, yeah. I was really just taking in the
(02:10):
culture, I think. What culture of depression?
That's Ohio. 'S thing.
No, I mean, definitely felt likeit in Indiana.
I, I realized I was probably notin a great place mentally
because I, I, I'm fine, obviously now because I was
working so much and I literally like sat in a parking lot and
(02:31):
ate an entire bag of Cheetos while listening to the song
green light by Lord for on like for an hour repeated.
And I was just like, this is something healthy people do,
right? You know what's funny is that I
was also in my car kind of down and.
It's because we weren't podcasting and we were on the
same wavelength. Yeah, I, I I was eating a bag of
Cheetos. Hell yeah.
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What kind of Cheetos do you do? The puffs.
So it really depends on my mood.Yeah, so happy, happy.
His puffs. So I was lucky that I I, I went
healthy here because I did eat awhole bag of Cheetos, but so it
wasn't Cheeto Cheetos. It was like healthy Cheetos that
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I don't know, it's some brand that put tries pushing
themselves is like, oh, we, you can have as much as us as you
want. We're healthy.
And that's not true. But it is probably better than,
you know, regular Cheetos. There are still like serving
sizes. Hey man I I do everything by the
bag so as long as it says serving size 1 bag I'm good to
(03:35):
go. Of course this was a family size
bag so and it didn't have that warning.
You don't have a family? Yeah.
Well, that that's the annoying thing is I was promised enough
to feed a family, but here I am by myself with an empty bag
sitting in a parking lot, sad listening to.
(03:55):
Small, crunchy. It was small, crunchy, Yeah.
It sounded the same way. The same way.
It is a mood thing because the puff, it melts, it melts in a
way where it sticks to your teeth.
And sometimes I'm just like, I don't want to fucking deal with
this. But at the same time, and I'm
going, I guess we're podcasting now because I'm going on the
record. So you have to include this now.
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White cheddar Cheeto puffs are the best Cheeto.
That's not what on the record means, by the way.
I do need to point that out. On the record means you can use
it if you want to. Off the record.
On the record means you're forced to print what I say.
Got it. OK, so white cheddar Cheetos
pipes. I've had white cheddar cheez its
and those are great. I'm not Cheez, its guy.
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Fair enough, but oh you know what?
I'm not either until I had the white cheddar ones.
I'll have to try them. I will.
And so welcome to our podcast where we talk about cheese and
cheese related podcast. This is our Processed food
episode where we're going to start talking about Cheetos
cheeses. I do go off on snacks for like
at least 1/2 hour. Hey.
Man, this is going to be a shortepisode.
(04:59):
I think so. Time stamps in the description.
Let's front load this with cheese talk cheese.
It's I don't it has like almost like a burnt cheddar taste to
it. I don't like that.
Do you know what I'm talking? About I do know what you're
talking again. Again, I I exclusively do the
white because of that. Because of that I exclusively do
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the white cheddar ones. Not a goldfish guy either.
I have moved away from it myself, yes.
And I I think I've realized I'm not a huge cooked cheese kind of
flavour guy like I don't want. You've had better.
You've had good cheese before inyour life.
Oh. Yeah, man, come on.
I don't. I don't mess with this American
(05:43):
cheese. American cheese is legitimately
one of the worst cheeses. Yeah, but nothing melts like it.
The I I don't remember what I was going to say.
I. Melts like you're 4 O 1K like
America climate change. OK, so.
What are we reading today, Dominic?
We are reading Sonic's friendly nemesis Knuckles, released in
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May of 1996, and this is the first of a three-part
miniseries. It's just called Knuckles
miniseries I think. No, Go back up.
Sorry. You're right.
You're right. Go back up.
Oh, Rites. Of rites of passage I.
Missed that, I apologize. Written by Ken Penders and Mike
Kanternovich. I'm realizing right now that I
(06:31):
tried copying and pasting the that was APDF I was reading for
the intro and I'm realizing I didn't double check it to see if
it copied correctly. I might just read it from here.
I know for a fact it starts withO instead of of, so I'm not
confident in this. Yeah, you're right.
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Written by Ken Penders and Mike Antonovich, penciled by Art
Mohini and shout out to cover artists Patrick Spaziante and
Harvey Mercadocasio. Mercadocasio.
OK, OK, so this is some interesting typeface.
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This looks like medieval to me. Well, I feel like they're trying
to do like a mix. So for the record, this is an
intro page, so it's like a the first page of a storybook.
And they've done this, they've done this multiple times.
I think with Knuckles specifically, I don't know, just
special, just mini series and specials where they'll have a
whole page dedicated to like a preview.
For Princess Sally. Also, yeah.
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And it's a, it's a, it's just like a, hey, here's where we are
in the whole grand story. But this, this typeface is very
unique. It looks it, it's you.
It was going for what you were saying.
Well, no, I think medieval not. The more I sit with it, the more
I think you're right. I think it is.
I was originally thinking like fairy tale, kind of just.
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Ancient, just old in general. It's not literally medieval.
Like that's not what they're going for.
Well, I mean, it was literally medieval.
I wouldn't be able to. Read it.
Yeah, that's true. So, OK, how do we how do we read
this? Like Monique, do you know what a
hurdy gurdy is? No.
So it's a medieval instrument I believe.
Oh yes, I do know it. Oh, keep on.
Going and it drones and it makeslike it just literally make I
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mean you can make multiple sounds or multiple pitches, but
it's most like most instruments,but this one is known for being
a droning instrument that really, really goes on and on
and then like a typical hurdy gurdy song.
So I I've never played it. I just read up on this.
It it goes on for like 30 verses, which is like the
average because it's like medieval storytelling or
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whatever of that time. Yeah, it.
Felt like you're trying to do Halo there.
Of the countless natural wonderson the planet Mobius Nunskin
compare to the on majesty of theFable Floating Island.
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Its secrets, including those of the legendary Chaos Emerald, are
preserved and protected by the Knuckles, the Enchidna.
He is the most current Sentinel in the long line of guardians.
Though forever apart from the affairs of those who dwell
below, the island has its own unique tales of true triumph and
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tragedy. Raised to lofty heights by the
power of science technology, there's a comma there.
Raised by the heights of the lofty power of science,
technology would eventually prove a double edged sword and a
culture's ultimate downfall. Once home to the most advanced
society in living memory, the land has since reverted back to
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wilderness. But buried deep beneath the
shadow of Mount Fate lies signpost to a checkered past and
the artifacts of days perhaps best forgotten.
Still, history has a knack for refreshing the memories of those
who failed to heed its lessons, and that is where our story be.
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So I've got exciting news for you.
I've wrote the entire script like that, so have fun our.
Story begins deep within the bowels of the fabled floating
island above the planet of Mobius.
A vast underground complex is about to be invaded by Knuckles.
These are the ruins of a once ancient city that is buried
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under Mount Fate. Knuckles arrives at a room full
of trap doors, complex infrared arrays, motion sensors, trip
wires, and pressure plates. One would expect a Catherine's
Hated Jones from the movie Entrapment kind of finesse.
However, Knuckles doesn't have that kind of control over his
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body, so he just runs through the room, activating every trap
that comes his way. Using the traps to destroy other
traps. He successfully makes it to the
next room. However, he hears a noise above
him. Knuckles looks up and sees a
boulder rolling towards an Indiana Jones style.
He successfully outruns the boulder.
We cut to the exterior slash above ground.
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Mount Fate explodes and a silhouette of a predator ask man
with a spear stands on the now exploded cap.
Knuckles keeps wandering the ruins of the ancient city when
he comes across a concussive blaster.
He uses it on a door he found that is welded shut.
Knuckles keeps wandering when hehears a voice come over an
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intercom. What did we say?
Archimedes's voice was. We, we are at that point where
we need to have like a file of just like the voices you've
done. Yeah, I have.
I don't remember he, I mean he'sAustralian little.
I was calling him a cricket. I don't know if that.
Yeah, some kind of insect. Yeah, but I don't, I don't
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remember. He's a fire Ant.
I know he's a. Fire Ant now they we're getting
there. How many Australians have we
done? At least three.
Right. I mean every, every single
fucking thing Ken Penders does is like Australia adjacent so.
British, Yeah. Yeah, and he.
Can't get out of. He can't escape the
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Commonwealth, it seems. Was this the guy?
They were like you're you shoulddo Crocodile Dundee or
something. I think so, but it was like not
it was. And then we put another spin on
it. Yeah, I, I don't remember.
This is what happens when we don't record for like three
weeks in a row. Because he's an Ant.
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What do ants sound like? And then we made, I feel like we
made a joke about the the movie ants.
Did you just do your Stallone? No, I didn't do Stallone.
I did not do Stallone. Did you do a Woody Allen with
Aussie? Can I do a Woody Allen?
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Can I do a Woody Allen without being like super racist?
I could, but if it's an accurateWoody Allen it'd be super
sexist, no? Yeah, you would just sound like
a pedophile. Which is more important?
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Side note, I bought ants becauseI haven't seen ants in forever
and we started talking about ants and it was like I should
probably rewatch. Ants.
It's probably not as good as youremember, but as I remember but.
I mean, I still quote it all thetime, OK?
Which is more important? Your friends are the threat to
the floating island had you fought.
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This is a bad idea. It's it's up to you whether you
can you're. Putting this on me.
Yeah, OK. Just remember when we canceled
Dominic, I said. I just sat there and I did not
participate. All right, we'll we'll do
Aussie. Which is more important.
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That's not. I was like, yeah, I'm just going
to stumble through this your your friends or the threat to
your floating island. Had you fight together instead
of separately, you wouldn't be here.
Still, intelligence aside, your performance has been adequate,
turning the conservatories defences against themselves
elegant and it's simplicity through a although A trifle
melodramatic. Still, you correctly reason that
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the key to the present lies in the past, that the path best got
it holds both the most peril andthe brightest promise.
Knuckles walks into a room whereSPL, Mighty, Charmy, and Vector
are all sitting, enjoying lunch with Archimedes and his robot
friends. Knuckles is offered some spare
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ribs from Vector. I don't want your lunch, Vector.
I want answers. So you're the big Mamma Jamba
Archimedes. I've been thinking, wise guy,
and my train of thought led me here to the Grand Conservatory.
Obviously you've got hold of my ancestors, abandoned technology,
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hot wired these robots and made them do your dirty work.
What I don't understand is how you disappeared last time in the
Chaos Chamber and carved your initials into a solid hunk of
solid granite. You're small, but hardly
invisible. Just then, Archimedes vanishes
in a puff of smoke and reappearsbehind Knuckles.
(15:40):
Blue spoken mirrors the magician's eye.
A little misdirection goes a long way.
And for the rest, Archimedes shoots fire out of his tiny
insect mouth and Knuckles. Think your hot stuff, huh?
As a matter of fact, I do. My people have pulled in kidna
fat out of the fire more times than I can count as far back as
(16:03):
the origin in this island. A voice boom from behind
everyone and a hand that is glowing green appears.
OK, what's the voice for this character?
He's a surfer bro. Oh.
It's Dimitri. Yeah, but it's not.
I know that, but it's not going to change.
It's not. We're not going to change it.
I mean that is AI guess now is the time to decide.
(16:26):
Because this feels like it's going to be a permanent
character. Yeah, I agree, but also last
time we saw him he had a surfer voice.
That's true, That's true. But.
He hasn't done anything since. Different now, though.
He's got like, he's like the Predator.
So do a Predator surfer. Yeah, do a bunch of clicks in
(16:50):
there, you know? Yeah, OK, here we go.
Just like that. A voice boomed from behind
everyone and a hand that is glowing green appears.
(17:17):
The fire run is corrupt. The fire run is correct.
This kind once thwarted during will.
But but what was We're going to fucking like Foley this shit,
the two of us. But what was long, long ago?
Does he talk? Can he do that while talking?
(17:37):
Why not? Because he's got like multiple
manuals. I have grown, learned, evolved
during my imprisonment been imprisonment beneath Mount Fate.
The Ankita scientist Dimitri is no more Energeac.
Enerjack. Reign Supreme Enerjack now
(18:03):
appears in full frame. He has the vibes of Predator
from the hit film Predator. Shut the fuck up in.
That case people don't know whatI'm talking about.
You have to explain. You should explain commando
before it. No, but with a golden mask and
armor that has ancient Egyptian vibes.
(18:24):
The Chaotic's crew all gang up and charge Enerjac.
But Enerjac sends out an energy wave and all the crew are now
floating inside an energy wave, unable to move.
Now that now that your unexpected show of resistance
has been extinguished, events may proceed in an orderly
(18:44):
fashion. Though in Kinopolis as long
since fallen bro, my dreams of conquest yet endure.
These chaotics could prove useful to me in the world that
is coming. But you, the descendants of
those who arranged my defeat, deserve a better fate.
(19:07):
I hope all that was audible. Archimedes and Knuckles go
flying and disappear. They awake on a sand dune in the
middle of the desert. There is a skeleton of a beast
with three eyes next to them andsome horns.
Having no idea where they are, they begin their long journey
home, wherever that is. End of the first of three.
(19:31):
Yeah, so the the like this was mainly just like running through
traps and stuff. So unfortunately.
A lot of action, the establishment, you know, the
rising action and just kind of OK by the end of it.
The last panel of them just in the deserts and just, you know,
like, OK, here's our actual story, which now we're going to
spend two of the three resolving.
(19:52):
So I want to open yes with the most interesting question I
think is so this means fire antsare intelligent and knew what
they were doing and destroyed. I I guess.
(20:17):
I in in the last story In the last story fire ants saved
Knuckles ancestor by freeing himfrom the shackles to the wall
and by the fire ants burrowed through the wall.
So are they sentient or not that?
They have to because he knows about it.
Now here's the thing. Here's the thing.
(20:37):
Either either there are three options, either they're not
sentient or likely no, there's only two actually.
Now either they're, they were fully sentient the whole time,
or they became sentient between now and then.
Because remember, 500 years giveor take have passed.
Assuming I did the math, assuming each of those
descendants in in that one frame, you know that one panel,
(20:59):
I did the math assuming on an average that they had kids at
the age of 35, about 500 years that would have passed.
I So is that enough? For an Ant to gain sentience,
full sentience? I don't think so.
And intelligence speaking. Well, but on top of it, because
like, Archimedes knew about the event and said that like, we've
(21:21):
saved your butts before. And so to me that means that
either they were sentient or like there is like the
beginnings of sentience and likethat's their like Bible.
I I think it yeah, that could bethat.
That's their lore, That's their culture as well.
(21:43):
Now, in, in those frames, I'm not going to show it because I
don't want to look through it, but those, those panels where it
showed the ants from previous, it's they were not wearing
clothing, No. So it did not immediately
signify that they had civilization or sentience.
Which is, yeah. Which then brings me to a bigger
(22:05):
problem with this comic, which is just.
I feel like everything is sentient, yeah.
I don't know. And everyone's eating these
animals, man, these sentient animals.
Everyone's eating these sentientanimals.
Like, where does a chili dog come from?
You know that classic question. Yeah.
And also. Plato said that first, right?
(22:25):
Oh, you're serious? I thought you were making a
joke. No.
No, no, that is obviously a joke.
OK, I don't think Plato had processed meats to make AI
thought there was a. Character.
I thought there was a character named Plato.
Oh no, I'm talking. The Plato OK, The Plato that we
know, OK Was Plato a hedgehog? No.
(22:46):
I can make him one with Plato. Oh my God, I don't know.
I don't know. I I, I think we just have to
assume that they've always been sentient.
I I agree that just makes everything insane, but I think
this is actually maybe even low on the totem pole for insanity
that we're about to witness because we're already off at
(23:09):
like 100. This guy, Enerjack is his name
now. Dimitri is now Enerjack.
That's I don't like the name. It's a bad name, the.
Bad, bad name. I will always say shout out.
I will. We need to shout out the art
more. The panels where it's it cuts to
Ener Jack just no words and he'sjust going through shit.
(23:30):
He's going where Knuckles had just gone through in complete
silhouette. That's cool.
I think that's cool. That did add some tension where
it's like, whoa, who's this character?
What's going on? I mean I could kind of tell
because of the green outline, but like still.
I mean, did you not realize right away that who it was?
No, I mean once he announced himself and it's like I, I am
(23:50):
Dmitri no more. Yes.
Oh, I knew. Yeah, no, I'm saying I I figured
that because of the green outline, I said that.
But in terms of like, it's stillit it within the store, it's
like, oh, this fucker's back. I mean, we knew he was going to
be back. I didn't think he'd be back so
soon. I thought they were going to
fucking build up Archimedes morelike what?
So, so now, OK, now we're going to get into the plot pacing of
(24:12):
this thing again, which is that it's sloppy.
It's so sloppy. It's like you just entered.
Well, you didn't introduce him, but like you just revealed
Archimedes and now he's Knuckleshis ally at the last panel.
I mean I I feel like that was always.
I got the vibe that Archimedes wasn't an enemy the entire time,
so I assumed this is exactly what was going to happen.
(24:37):
That's The thing is that Nick has good instincts in terms of
predicting because he watches somany movies.
He actually has very good instinct on, like predicting a
plot. Yeah.
Or it's because I've got ADD andreally good pattern recognition?
That too. That too I I am very easy to
manipulate. I mean, I got him onto this
podcast. Exactly.
(24:57):
He would have never done this willingly.
Oh boy. This.
Is just this is just this is. Just dumb man.
You just keep throwing animals at the fucking wall.
I have. No, I have.
I'm not into this. So I'm going to talk about one
of my broader complaints is I, Ithink who, whoever, who, who
(25:23):
designed this one? I let me say this, I am into
this in the sense that I do wantto get through it and like find
out what happens, but I'm not enjoying myself.
I think that's going to be the majority of your time with
Archie Comics. If I if I had one guess it's
going to be I want to know, but I don't want to do this.
(25:44):
And we're going to slowly grow to hate ourselves.
But we're going to make money off of it.
I don't think we will. In fact, it's going to be a
money sink, which makes it even worse.
Hell yeah. One of the things that really
annoys me is I feel like they'retrying to have their cake and
eat it too. In terms of the design of
everything they're doing this ancient temple kind of thing
(26:09):
vibe for, Obviously that's exactly what they're doing.
You're going to a room full of traps, like pressure plates, all
that stuff. You literally have the Indiana
Jones esque. Boulder.
So they're going for this vibe of ancient civilization, but and
and it looks like a temple. All of the designs in this area
(26:31):
is a temple, right? But every single like photo
we've seen of. Into into.
Cop the old city, it's been likesuper advanced tech.
It doesn't look ancient in any way shape or form.
If anything it looks it has thatlike future ancient kind of vibe
(26:53):
if that makes sense. Yeah, you could.
You could argue that this was like, oh, it's like a vault and
this is where they stored things.
And they decided to just dress it up like Aztec temple.
Yep, like the old ways that. 'D be a really dumb argument to
make. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no. Where are we?
(27:14):
So that's why I was lying down. I knew.
So by the end of the ancient, the history lesson we got from
Knuckles, right, by the end of it, the people of Inkanopolis,
they rejected technology and they went back to the land.
So they're like, hey, this is our society now.
(27:35):
That no, I'm pushing back because where they're at right
now is in what existed. This is the vault that they put
all their ancient weapons and stuff in.
And they were like, hey, screw all this.
But this existed is what I'm saying.
Screw all this glass, right? Screw all this glass and and
modernism and shit. We're going to do ancient
(27:57):
carvings because that's how we roll now.
Reject technology. Embrace the past.
Follow my podcast. OK, I do follow your podcast
every episode I listen to Man the Mix.
Of old and new technology is is cool.
(28:20):
I think it it gives me it gives me Star Wars Knights of the Old
Republic vibes because it's StarWars so everything has to be
future. But they also do ancient stuff
as well. I mean how could everything in
Star Wars takes place in the past dude.
Sure, you know what I mean. I'm, I'm just saying you kind of
sounded like a dumb ass right now.
(28:40):
You're like, Oh yeah, Star Wars of the future.
Like, bitch, did you read the prologue, the scroll a long time
ago? No.
One reads the scroll. They just let they close their
eyes, listen to the John Williams.
They're like, yeah. Yep.
Oh man, I like, I like vector eating spare of ribs that I I, I
(29:06):
wasn't gonna include that originally, but I was like,
that's absurd in a way that I feel like I need to put it in
the. Script.
He's a crocodile, yeah. No, it's more just the fact that
they're in this like ancient temple eating spare of ribs.
I just realized this Archimedes is wearing a a necklace of
teeth. Where do those teeth come from
'cause they're Ant sized? I mean, technically, yeah.
(29:28):
Oh, you think he does big game hunting with other insects?
Oh, 1000. Percent he's.
A he Yeah, dude. And he's working on hunting the
most dangerous game. Which is.
For him, at least, not us. I just the chaotics are are
(29:50):
captured again. Yeah, another dude shows up and
recaptures the chaotics. That you are.
That didn't even cross my mind. We just spent how many fucking
issues trying to get the chaotics back and we get the
chaotics back and literally for like not, not even a whole
(30:15):
issue, not even half an issue. It's like 3 frames.
One of them's just eating fucking spare ribs and then and
then they get captured again immediately.
This is so fucking bad. What the fuck are we doing?
This is why I hate big teams. This is legitimately why I hate
(30:36):
big teams because it's like brahjust stop.
If it's one person, fine, I'll still complain but at least it's
whatever. You're distributing all this
attention over like 5 different dudes that keep getting captured
and it's not engaging. Well, that and it's like we
(30:57):
haven't grown to care for any ofthese characters.
No, yeah, there was like one story and then the next they
played tag. Yeah, and then Archimedes showed
up in that too for some fucking reason.
I still don't understand why he showed up.
He was like stalking them. He was so like meta wise he was
like, I was like oh to tease thevillain and like.
Well, yeah, I know. I understood that aspect.
(31:19):
But it just doesn't make sense as to why he was sick.
Yeah, that was. You know how I feel bad for?
I feel, I feel, scroll up. I feel bad for that child who's
like, yeah, I'm Knuckles, I'm cool.
I'm the coolest guy around, man.You get lame stories.
I mean so he saws the video games.
That's true. Knuckles hasn't done a laugh
(31:43):
like in the games. He gets tricked, that's his
whole thing, yeah. But he doesn't.
He didn't do a laugh where he like crosses his arms and like
ha ha ha. Ha, oh we didn't play Sonic and
Knuckles yet he does that. No, sorry in the game.
I know he does that in the games, but he hasn't done that
in the comic. I should have specified, sorry.
Oh yeah, yeah. Because nothing funny has
happened yet. Yeah, what bullshit.
(32:06):
Why? Why is he he should be crossing
his arms all the time and laughing at everyone.
How do you like the Oh, that wasthe other thing is I hate the
design of Enerjack. Also not not I I actually kind
of dig this like predator vibe that they are going for.
I don't actually know if they'regoing for a predator vibe, but
that is. The vibe.
That I get, but I hate the fact that they're like, let's throw
(32:27):
in like ancient Egypt with it and they're mixing.
I just don't like. It's, it's exoticism for the
sake of exoticism, which is veryproblematic.
Those are big words. Those are big woke sounding
words. But what I'm trying to say is
that you're just tossing a bunchof.
Those are normal sized words by the way.
They are no but for like for theInternet.
(32:49):
They're big dumb gay words, but like for for I sound too smart
is my problem, which is funny because I'm not.
But anyway, the he's just penders and conservatives are
just throwing in cultures for the sake of throwing in cultures
like you were saying with the ancient Aztec temple looking
thing. And it's like nothing's
cohesive. Nothing is cohesive.
(33:11):
It's just ancient for the sake of ancient and it's not gelling
at all. I understand that 'cause I do
get annoyed every now and then. Or it's like, oh, this whole set
of people are just space France,or they're just, oh, ancient,
you know, ancient, yeah, like ancient Egypt, the faction,
(33:34):
right. That's the thing.
Some sometimes it works like Warhammer 40K, the Necrons, but
other times it's like, no, you're just trying too hard and
it's too whatever. In this case, it not only
doesn't work, it's because you're throwing in so much shit
and not blending it together into one.
It it's it's just weird and it doesn't it or not.
Well, yes, we are, but also justnot gelling at all.
(33:57):
And it doesn't feel cohesive because all we're all we're
thinking is Egypt, as opposed towhat Ken really wants us to
think about, Penders and Katarovic want to think about
which is an actual culture. Yep.
I do think that the most interesting about thing about
this whole issue thus far is thecanonical map we get of the
floating island. I feel like this is a canonical
(34:21):
and this is going to change. I agree.
I concur, but it's there. So it gives us a scale.
Oh. Every 10 miles is 1 inch.
So this is. Not very big.
Well, No 10 miles every one inch, so well, it's probably
(34:45):
like 80 miles across long wise. That's decent.
OK. No, you're right.
You're right. It is.
But also like, I don't know, man.
Lake Nessie. I just feel like they kind of
just threw shit at the wall and they're like, oh, these were the
cities in the game. So we got, we got to put Marble
(35:07):
Zone here, we got to put Ice CapZone here.
Yes. There's the zoot shoot.
I find it interesting that the chaos chamber is apparently not
in the center of the island. I truly just assumed it was.
Did they? Why wouldn't the thing that
powers the island be in the middle of?
(35:31):
I don't know, I'm sorry, is yourfucking car engine in the middle
of your car? It can be.
But is it? If it's electric, yes.
Oh, you're fucking? Lib Elon Musk.
(35:51):
Yeah, The other interesting thing is how tiny the city was.
Yeah, I looked way bigger. Because that means the city is
only 10 miles. Yeah.
What the fuck is this map? Every single image we've seen
has been like the whole island was.
I don't think this is cannon. I think we need to just assume
(36:14):
this is just like pretend there's no scale and just know
that there's a river that goes across the whole.
Island. It's a vibes thing, yeah.
We we can't. We can't trust this.
So what? Do you think's going to happen
next? Well, that's the interesting
thing is Penders is so like off the wall with where he's going
(36:37):
with this. I, I legitimately let me, let me
think for a second. I would love to know that the
dynamic between Penders and Ken Turnovich, like like who, who,
who goes all in, who pulls back?Because right now we're assuming
it Penders goes all in and Ken Turnovich is just there or.
No, I think, I think, I think he's holding him back.
(36:59):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I that'smy assumption based off of
nothing, just the vibes of what how the community talks about
Ken Penders. It comes down to, I'm not sure
if I understand his powers yet. We have all these guys in a
force field, right? The chaotics crew, obviously he
can teleport people. I don't know if he's got like a
(37:21):
mind control. He's talking about the chaotics
crew being useful. I don't know how they could be
useful but if giving the abilities of the chaotics crew I
would think he they he's going to use them to steal something.
(37:41):
Probably the energy siphon of the the thing that broke.
Did it break? Did they destroy it?
I don't remember seeing that. The the weird looking thing that
he. They destroyed the city that I
remember. I don't know if they destroyed
that machine or not, but I wouldthink he's like I need.
I want to get that last cast emerald to siphon it off, and I
(38:05):
would think he's got a real destroy the world kind of vibe
and he hates this island, so he's going to try to crash it
into Mobius, I think. Yeah, I think that there's going
to be some sort of heist and he's going to try to colony drop
Angel Island, that is. I enjoy that plot anytime they.
(38:28):
They do a colony. Drop yeah, on from Angel Island.
That's cool. I just think that's fun.
I agree, Colony drop is always good writing.
Always I don't have any ideas onit's got to be Archimedes.
(38:49):
There's going to be push and pull.
Knuckles is like I got to go save my friends.
Archimedes is probably like no, we need to go get this ancient
weapon that the ancients made tofight against Ener Jack because
they knew he'd come back and it is a thing.
Oh you want to be more interesting is if they both have
(39:10):
the same goal of getting the siphon and he needs to use a
siphon to siphon off ener Jack and.
To defeat him? Yeah, you.
Suck him, suck him off, get thatchaos energy off of him and.
Ener Jack him off. That was good too.
(39:30):
That was good A plus. Thank you.
And then, yeah, so OK, I'm back.What what what the plot is is
they're both looking for the energy siphon.
Knuckles and Archimedes lose, hegets the energy siphon and then
(39:54):
the Catix crew team up with Knuckles and Archimedes.
They somehow get something to that's going to be just so you
know, Deus Ex machina kind of thing when.
And then they're going to take the energy that Enerjack has,
siphon it into the Chaos Emerald, and make the Master
(40:15):
Emerald. OK, OK.
And then that's how he bring, that's how.
That's how the master Enerols introduced.
And that's how Penders and Katrina, which brings us back to
the games, but unifies it. I like that.
I like that. I.
Don't know if the Master Emeraldexists yet canonically.
I don't know. Even in the games, I don't, I
don't know. I think it's adventure.
(40:35):
I don't know if adventure's the first time it's introduced.
Here. That's the first knowledge I
have. 96 is when this comes out.That means that the story of
Sonic Adventure has been being written.
They are canceling it on the Sega Saturn and bringing it over
to the Dreamcast. So there probably is a vague
(41:00):
story and they probably told I, I, I think that's where this is
going. They're going to make a Master
Emerald. That's that's my call.
If there's ever a time to do it,it's this.
It's this mini series. Yeah, I like it.
I like that. I like it a lot.
Will they do it? I'm not.
Have no fucking clue but. Well, I mean, I don't even know
if that's good writing. That's just where I predict this
(41:22):
is going. I could be way off.
Characters. Are there any other than
Knuckles? Like any real characters here.
No, I mean no one has a personality yet, so.
Yeah. I don't know if I've got overall
(41:43):
thoughts. Do you like where this is going?
Are you? Excited.
I I I really don't have much investment into this because,
yeah, no one is a character except Knuckles, and that's only
because he's been monologuing. Shout out to What do you think
about those pages where he's walking across the comics?
I hate it. You hate it.
It's too meta. It's too.
Yeah, it's too. Meta.
I mean I think design wise it looks cool but.
(42:06):
For a different for a different context, it'd be cool.
Yeah, I just don't like it for this.
Yeah, I I agree. I agree.
It takes me out of it. For for context for the audio
listeners only, they do a like flashback to the earlier comics,
but they put it like on the floor of Knuckles and so he like
he's literally like standing on the issues of the comics looking
(42:30):
at them so. Explain like, yeah, catching you
up, Yeah. Exactly.
In better detail than the originally like debuted.
I don't think I've got really anything else I want to cover
unless you do. No, because it's just the start.
And yeah. And that's the issue.
(42:50):
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(43:35):
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