EP130: Wish Dave Smith Was A Libertarian On Immigration - Gracearchy with Jim Babka

Dave Smith is a rising star, and he’s usually right. But in a recent debate with Alex Nowrasteh, his case for immigration restrictions raises big questions about what it really means to be a voluntaryist. In this episode, Jim Babka explores where property rights analysis usually works, and where it breaks down. He also **corrects himself!** on a point he made in a recent episode, and he explains why he now sees it differently. Along the way, you’ll hear Dave’s best argument, Alex’s most powerful line, and a fresh perspective on what principled liberty looks like. REFERENCES It was not episode 2, as said in the show. It was... EP5: World Population with Stephen Barrows on Gracearchy with Jim Babka (AHO Network) https://youtu.be/IT2TsDljMnU The Debate Resolution: "Government restrictions on the immigration of peaceful and healthy people make sense from a libertarian standpoint, especially in present-day America." 0:00 Theme 0:25 Is Dave Smith a libertarian 2:42 Libertarianism in the Resolution 5:12 Dave Smith Opening Statement 5:44 Strange definition of Voluntaryism 10:27 Borders are not the issue 12:08 Ellis Island is not libertarian 15:41 Okay, let's discuss government schools 23:17 Extreme hypothetical 24:18 First principles, freedom of people 25:40 Immigration is beneficial 28:38 The path to tyranny 32:06 Forced association solved by democracy? 32:45 Pragmatism 34:43 States don't have rights 36:36 You cannot vote away human rights 38:09 Capitalism proves Americans want immigrants 40:25 Anarcho-capitalist is not voluntaryist? 41:53 Real job-stealers and welfare recipients CREDITS Bill Protzmann is your moderator. This episode is sponsored by Zero Aggression Project. https://zeroaggressionproject.org/ Thank you to Randy Garbin for our amazing episode thumbnails: http://randygarbin.com/ ChatGPT was used to help write the show description. We are grateful to Sergio at https://www.youtube.com/@KeysofMoonMusic for our intro theme. ► https://www.patreon.com/user?u=10500501 or you can purchase his music on BandCamp: ► https://keysofmoon.bandcamp.com/ ► If you have any questions please feel free to write to Sergio at: [e-mail] Be grace-full to each other.