EP62: Faith, Vaccination, Consideration, and Coercion with Dave Brisbin - Gracearchy with Jim Babka

Must future outbreaks be brother vs brother? Bill Protzmann took the lead in this discussion and interviewed Dave Brisbin and me (Jim Babka) about our response to the shot, to mandates, and how that stuff affected us. Our responses are different. Our decisions about the shot were the opposite. So… How could they both be the "right response" from a shared faith perspective? How could brother agree with brother? Viewers and listeners will learn how and why the answer is found in something called the macro and the micro. Amazingly, this episode was recorded in May. Now, the Do Not Consent movement helps make it timely. As you know quite well, principles are timeless. We also address an issue that nagged at me during 2020: Why were "church people" so scared of death? This is a "bonus episode" to the series we've already done with Pastor Dave Brisbin of "theeffect." They're all quite short. The Weakness of Orthodoxy with Dave Brisbin - EP 57 (23 minutes), Reconsidering the Kingdom of God with Dave Brisbin - EP 58 (14 minutes), and Explaining the Trinity with Dave Brisbin - EP 59 (36 minutes). Timeline 1:10 - Vaccination and faith: the setup 3:10 - How the definition of "anti-vaxx" changed to impugn free will 4:10 - Why this is not a vaccination 6:20 - Two grace-centered, libertarian responses to the shot 6:36 - Dave: pastor and chaplain 9:33 - Jim: prophet and advocate for liberty and human respect 17:40 - What would Jesus have done with the shot? What's the Christian response? 20:17 - Why were church people so scared of death? 21:26 - Why wasn't death discussed more widely in church? 24:17 - Contemplative; practicing the little death Bill Protzmann is your moderator. ZeroAggressionProject.org is the sponsor. Be grace-full to each other. Thank you to Randy Garbin for our amazing thumbnails: http://randygarbin.com/ We are grateful to Sergio at https://www.youtube.com/@KeysofMoonMusic for our intro theme. ► https://www.patreon.com/user?u=10500501 or you can purchase his music on BandCamp: ► https://keysofmoon.bandcamp.com/ ► If you have any questions please feel free to write to Segio at: [e-mail]