A Badass' Guide to Practicing Gratitude with Roice

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The first time I saw you live was at the Underground show at
Manchester. It was like 2 years ago.
The Chelsea. The Chelsea sorry yes, because I
think they're right next door right yes.
Once again, I'm not trying to pull smoke up your ass, but when
I saw you two years ago, I, I have videos on my phone that I
have saved that I will be posting come on the week that
your episode comes up because I have them on my phone from that

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night. And I that's amazing.
And you did, you did just that. Welcome to another episode of

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Graphic Content, the podcast where we talk all things who,
why and what the fuck. Now today my guest is a DJ, is a
designer, a Twitch streamer, A producer, and a member of Sounds
of the Collective. Royce, Hello.
Hi everyone. Hello.
OK, so actually I want to say that I'm not yet a producer, I'm

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an aspiring producer. So I've been doing some research
and like watching some videos, reading some books and I plan to
get started as soon as possible.But if you're in it and you're,
are you dabbling? I am dabbling as much as I can.
Then you're doing it. What?
That's true. This disclaimer.

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I like, I, I'm joking when I saythis, like, I want to cut that
out because I, you know, when people are like, well, I'm not
there yet. I'm like, are you doing it?
Are you trying it? Are you, you know, getting your
fingers or your toes wet or whatever, then you're doing it.
That is so true. That's a really great point.
I I always think in my head thatyou aren't something unless it's

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like public, but that's, but that's not true.
Like, it's all about how you feel and what you're doing and
what you're putting out there. Like, in your own terms.
Yeah. So yeah, you're so right.
Thank you. You're welcome.
No, but the the reason I say that is because even OK, so I'm
not this is like I'm in like a month and six weeks of doing

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this like out publicly. I've been doing it for longer,
but for sure, and I know that some, because because I'm not
big people probably won't take it seriously, right, 'cause
like, oh, his little, his littlething, right?
But it's like to me, I'm like, no, no, I envision this as going
somewhere. So I'm not gonna be like, yeah,
it's like I have a podcast. Not like, oh, I'm doing this
little show and whenever, like it's like just what I'm trying

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to say to you is own it. 100% you gotta dress for the job you
want. You have to talk about the job
that you have and flaunted and feel really good about it.
That's the only way that you'll be successful as if you're
confident in what you're currently doing and you see a
path, you know it's going to go so well.
Like you, you really have to speak things into existence.
And that's essentially what I'vedone my entire life.

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But now that I'm a DJ and I'm a musician, I'm an artist, these
things are really coming to life.
It's it's crazy. Like I was younger and I said, I
want to start playing music. I want a DJI might.
I've been in grade like 8 and I had peers, family members who

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are DJs and I'm like, I'm gonna do that.
I'm gonna be so good at that when I do it.
Yeah. And here we are.
It's a 2 1/2 years later and we're feeling good about it
every day. So.
It's honestly crazy to me because as an outsider, so you
know, I don't know every detail of your, your life path, but at
the same time I've been seeing you out in the world for a few

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years now. Like I think the first time I
saw you live was at the Underground show at Manchester.
It was like 2 years ago. The Chelsea.
The Chelsea, sorry, yes, that's because I think they're right
next door, right? Yes.
And I went with my sister, who Ithink we've crossed paths
together as well. Yes, yes.
And I remember like I, and I'm just going to say this, I love

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I'm a house head to begin with, but like I love female DJs.
Like to me, when a woman is owning the room in a way,
because like, there's so many men, like, it's just the like
that world is like full of men. But like, for sure when, when
you see these like that, like a hot bitch.
And I say that with the utmost respect.
Oh, yeah. Like up at the front, just doing

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your thing and the way that you put yourself together for these
shows, Like you're not just likeslapping, slapping something
together. Like you're a whole like a
production like I. And to me, I'm like, I respect
the showmanship, you know what Imean?
Like that to me is like next level.
And I I just want to say like, you know, I'm going to blow
smoke up your ass to start off and then we can.
But like, I love that so much. Goosebumps I'm getting.

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Goosebumps. Thank you so much.
It's something that I hold really near and dear, my whole
persona and like the outfits andthe nails and the hair and the
makeup. It's something that I've always
loved. And I think making that a part
of the aspect and a part of the production, like you said, it's

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everything together. So it's down to the fingertips,
to the music, to the lighting, to the sound, to the outfit,
like it's all part of an experience.
And I think that I need to continue to do that and heighten
it even more and more and more so that it can get better and

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better. You know, like this is only the
start. And what can I do to like make
such a great production? So I think at the least, showing
up and putting the crazy boots on and doing The thing is like,
that's the least you could do. After that, you perform, you
play the show, you enlighten thepeople about what's possible in
this industry and you keep keep learning and you keep putting it

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out there and you fucking do this good as you can.
So thank you for bringing that up.
Honestly, it means so much to meto hear those words come from
somebody who's I've been at one of my first ever shows.
Really. That was one of my first ever
performances. And you were there and you
brought it up. So like, it's kind of like a
full circle moment. Yeah.
So thank you so much. My God.

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And it's you're like cuz we havenot really interacted a ton like
I've seen you in passing at events like we've said, hello,
whatever. For sure.
Those are really our first time truly like chatting together,
which once again, like the fact that you said yes, like I, I'm
nothing like I I literally just started this thing and I asked
you, I think, before even anything went public and you

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were like, yeah, sure, I'll do it.
I'm like, Oh my God. And once again, like chatting to
you now and getting a sense of your energy, like you're very,
you seem like so sweet, so nice.And your persona is like this
hard woman, like in, in, in the best way possible.
Like I love so to see the dichotomy and like I'm like, oh,
OK, so when you're doing your thing, I love this.

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Like it's kind of like honestly,like the lights behind me, like
hot and cold. Like, I kind of love it.
Honestly, and that's essentiallywho I am and who I've always
been in my life. I've been this like really Hard
Rock of a person that has a hardouter shell.
But if you get to know me, I will be your best friend and
like anything I can to you. But that's a part of Royce, you

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know, like not being so approachable and putting out
there all these crazy thoughts, all this crazy music in this
crazy performance. But then you kind of will start
to understand a little bit more once you dig a little bit deeper
and do some research. It's just a part of my

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personality. So I I'm happy that that
translates also through Royce and through my music and through
my performances. So.
Oh yeah. Yeah, thank you.
Oh, please. Thank you once again.
Of course. My pleasure, really.
Are you kidding? This is.
I just feel like, I feel so likemy God this is so cool.

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It is. Talk to me, of course.
You're doing it so good and I'm so proud of you.
Thank you. Honestly, like I said to myself,
like I wanna make this like good.
Like I don't wanna half ass it, you know what I mean?
I wanna just to make it like a afun thing that I I love talking
to people about what they do. And I, I've been a distant
admirer of you for since I saw you live like and I knew I knew

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of you before through because you've been part of sounds of
the collective for how long now?So the company is about 3 years
old and I've just been kind of like a silent designer and a
little bit of like a director for events, I'd say always
giving my input. And I think we work really well

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together as a team because we could see the path of how we
want to present ourselves. And I think as a designer and
somebody in the industry, as an artist, I kind of can understand
the vibe that we're trying to portray as a company.
So it's not my company, but I'm proud to be a part of the

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collective and to educate peopleabout dance music and about
production and what is possible out there.
Because it's so often that you go to a show and like the music
so loud that your ears are hurting.
That's something that you would never understand, right?
That's important to the health of your of your hearing and the

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health of your audience. You know, like we want to have
everyone have a good time and that's kind of a part of it.
So just little things like that where you would never understand
or never even know think about. So yeah, I think we want to
start a few things in the futurewhere it's not Just Dance music
events, but it's more about having open discussions and
topics with people in the community, in the music

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community, artists, music lovers, producers, anybody under
the sun who wants to talk about it.
So I think we're gonna start doing cool stuff like that.
OK. I wanna ask one thing of you.
Can you just hold the mic up just a little bit more?
Yes, sorry. No, no, don't apologize.
It's more just like the more like lower it gets, the more Eck
under the. Room, that's true.
You also don't have to hide yourface like if you.

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Yeah, just below is perfect. OK, cool.
That's perfect. That's better.
Yeah, don't worry, editing this,none of this will show like I,
if you've seen any of the videosI've posted, like I make sure
that everyone looks good. I'm on your, I'm on your side.
Don't. Worry, yes.
I'm not doing this to like. I want this.
I want everyone to look the bestthat they can. 100% and I know

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and that's what I love so much. That's why I'm, it's so hard for
me to work with people like photographers, designers or like
anywhere where my image is gonnabe because I know the potential
and how I want to brand myself. So I don't always say yes to
people. And that's how it should be,
right? Like even shows, even DJ gigs,
like I won't say yes to something that I can't, my brand

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can't stand behind because it's also a reflection of the
decision making as an artist. And, and that's, you can't
settle just because I'm not being booked at every gig.
I'm OK with that. I, I want to keep my integrity,
even if I'm a small DJ, you know, because the shows will
come eventually. So I would like them to be

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better productions and you know,something I'd rather put my foot
behind. Yeah, and like, imagine if
there's like a great you're going somewhere and you're like,
I know the sound system is shit.I don't want to play there
because it's gonna, it's not gonna be a reflection of like
the true level that I can on my output, you know what I mean?
And you're like, OK, well, what are we doing here?
Exactly. A sound system actually really

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has such an effect on the sound of your performance and your
set. So if you have music that you
know you really want the crowd to hear this the way it's
supposed to sound, they will never unless it's on a system
that's tuned properly. So I've just been lucky that
I've been able to work with SOTCProductions and they've been

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able to book me and mentor me. And so I'd say that I'm a little
bit spoiled. But it's not even spoiled.
It's just that that's the path that you're on.
That's these are the steps that your trajectory is on to get you
to where you need to be. Right.
So tell me a little bit about sounds of the collective because
and how you got involved and howit's helped you because you're,

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you're saying I've been spoiled.But like, tell me a little bit
about the back story of that as to why, why you think you've
been spoiled. But you know, to me I'm like,
it's just part of your path. Yes, that is so true.
So the company is a sound and lighting company and they do
installs, they do rentals and they throw events.

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So essentially they're just trying to educate the community
on what's possible, throw reallycool parties, book really cool
artists and kind of explore the electronic music scene in
Windsor and expand it. So we've been working with
different collectives in the city, throwing events and that's
been really fun. But how this has affected my

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career as a DJ, as an artist, isbeing able to see a production
from start to finish and start is planning.
So you go to a venue, you choosea venue, you plan the room, you
sound design the room, which is such a cool thing in itself so

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that it sounds the best to the viewer into the DJ because the
DJ is a really important part ofthe production as well.
We want our DJ's to feel important and it even if you're
a local small DJ who's never played to anybody or you're a
big DJ who plays for thousands of people, we, we book these

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artists and we want everyone to feel the same being booked.
So you 2 in the room, you set upall the lighting and you play
the set and through that set yousee the ambience of the room and
the audience. That experience has done
something for me that I've neverwould have understood just going

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into this industry. Like, I don't think I would have
actually jumped into this industry if I didn't have that
platform. Another thing.
Both sides. Exactly.
Thank you so much. Another thing is streaming on
Twitch. So it's one thing to practice
music in your home alone, which is great, but streaming live

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streaming to hundreds of people kind of helps you practice,
gauge the music that you like. And I think without Twitch, I
wouldn't be so confident in the really interesting sounds and
musics that I'm hearing. So adding those two aspects
together, from the knowledge I've learned from SOTC, from Tim

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and Tyler, they were also both Twitch streamers and streaming
music and DJing. Tim and Tyler, the owners Co
owners of SOTC, they've just taught me so much about start to
finish of an experience with music.
So forever thankful to them and that's why I try to help as much

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as possible with what they're doing because they've helped me
so much. And I think it's, it was such a
great foundation and it continues to be such a great
learning experience for them from them all the time.
I'm just going to hang on to what they got going on for as
long as possible and then see where our two paths go because
it's really on the come up rightnow for everybody.
So. I love it.

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Yeah, it's really great. I'm so proud of them and I feel
so proud to be a part of a greatgroup of people who, you know,
know what they're doing, do it well, and are really, really
kind about it all. They're very welcoming and it's
OK to make mistakes, but you're better and you'll do better, and

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the best is always what you should always be.
The fact that this, you guys have started this collective in
Windsor, I'm obsessed with because I moved to Toronto when
I was 19. I did the whole like circuit
there. Like I was always out at the
clubs, like I was, you know, government circa, back in the
day, which I don't know. Did you ever get a chance to go
there? Actually, I feel like I might

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have been to government, but I was like very underage.
I mean, hey, we all, we all did it.
We. All came from somewhere.
Let me tell you, the streets were my best friend.
Oh my God. Like how?
How old are you if you don't mind me asking?
We can. Cut this if you want.
No, that's OK. I'm 26.

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Oh my God, you're so. You're 10 years younger than me.
Come on. Stop it.
Gotta hear. Stop it.
That's. Nuts.
I was gonna be like, oh, like, have you been to like all the
old clubs in Windsor? I'm like, there's no way they've
been closed before. You're legal.
But I've been clubbing for a long time.
I couldn't tell ya. But listen, that was research.

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On some level, you're doing research and you might not have
known it. And I really didn't know.
I've gone to festivals and I I'dnever even looked up at the DJI,
was just too busy getting lost in the sauce that I never
stopped to look around at my surroundings and how this would
impact my life essentially 10 years later or however long ago

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that was. Yeah, 16 get it.
That's honestly you were starting early.
I love it. I.
Really was, I was. What, what festivals were you
going to at the time? I was going to movement every
year. I've never been isn't that crazy
to the actual like I've been to the after parties but never to
the actual festival. OK, well you're so cool because

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after parties are cool as fuck. I love that.
Way cooler than the actual event.
They're also way cheaper. They're also way cheaper.
I'm sorry I can't spend $300.00 US on a ticket for a day, that's
crazy. Yeah, 100%.
But anyway, especially with. The exchange rate right now,
it's insane. It's insane.

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So like that's why even last year I went to I went and saw
inner city at was this is it Starlight?
No. What's the speaker box?
I don't think that's it. I can't remember box.
Is it OK it? Looks like a library and has big
windows. Yes, and there's like an.
Upstairs and there's a downstairs.
OK, yes, yeah, yeah. And so and going there, I was

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like the fucking vibes were Immaculate because for sure
every type of person age range from literally seniors to like,
you know, 20 to 21 year olds, whatever and whoever's you know,
legally getting in. No, we know, yeah, legally
everyone was there to have a good time to me.

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So going back to what you were saying about, you know, getting
lost in the sauce at festivals when you're younger, that's so
normal. Like I was the same, like I went
to every, I could pick anything every weekend.
I could go to whatever party I wanted to for sure in the last
over the last, like I want to say like 8-7 years.
Like I and you've seen me, you've seen me, my sister out at
events, my partner, like our friends, whatever.

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To me, when I go out now, I am 100% about the music.
I don't care about the social. I'm not there.
Like, yeah, I'll chat and you know, be friendly, but like I'm
there to dance. I want to vibe, I want to go on
a journey. I want to be taken care of by
whoever's playing. And once again, I'm not trying
to pull smoke up your ass. But when I saw you two years

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ago, I, I have videos on my phone that I have saved that I
will be posting come on the weekthat your episode comes up
because I have them on my phone from that night.
And I that's amazing. And you did, you did just that.
The fact that I love a lady DJ and then you're just, you can
back it up. The whole 360 experience.
I'm like. Yes, bitch, look.

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For sure, for sure. I love it like.
It definitely helps being a female in the industry.
I feel like you can kind of kickyour foot in a little bit more
because in the door, because there's not so many female DJs.
I mean, locally, even in Toronto, even in Detroit.
So I feel like you got to use all the cards you got, you know,

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and that's another thing that I want to talk about is to never
devalue anything that you are oranything you've done in your
life. Because you will realize when
the time comes how important those things are about you and
the lessons you've learned or anything, anything that you've
ever learned in your life is going to come to you in another

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way to benefit whatever you're doing.
So. 100% I feel like now and maybe this, I don't know if this
is going to be like a controversial statement, but I
feel like we live in a world where everybody is not
everybody. Sorry, take that back.
A lot of people will use the things that make them different
as like a crutch or like a bad thing.
Like, oh, if this is against me versus I'm like, or use it for

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yourself. Like in a way to say like look
at my difference. You know what I mean?
Exactly versus saying like, oh, woe is me.
Like I could, I know I'm a whiteguy.
So like, obviously, you know, whoever wants to talk shit about
me being white, it's fine, but it's the thing of like, yes, I'm
gay, but I'm like, I'm not I I wouldn't say it like that's it
doesn't hold me back. You know what I mean?
I'm like, it's something that makes it makes me me.

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It's it's what makes Jio an individual.
And so I'm like, just own it. What's the issue?
Why are we all like victimizing ourselves?
You know, I'm like, who cares? Own that shit.
Like to me, I love that. I, I, I respect it.
I I value it. So if you're going to be you're
a woman, you're a person of color like you're doing and
you're and you're I'm good at what you do.
Once again, I'm not sorry. This has become the like ass

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kissing show. No, it's not point.
Yeah, yes. Yeah, you're right.
Right now, because you are, you know, you're on Twitch, you're
you have your YouTube channel, you're on SoundCloud, you have
like you're kind of doing, you're starting to like expand
your brand. Let's say who right now, and I
know this is a cheesy question, but like, who are you like

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listening to? I want to know like, who's who's
in your ear right now? This was a question I've been
asked a few times to be on podcasts and like live streams
talking about music and my journey and that this is a
question that I has popped in mymind every time I'm asked
because I can't answer it like. That's fair.

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I'm like, I'm a DJ, I'm supposedto know all these artists and
all these genres and all these things.
But The thing is, is that I am listening to everything under
the sun. Like I will be on my way to the
gym. I'll be listening to to deep
house kind of wake up a little bit.
And then I'll get to the gym. I'll listen to bangin trance,

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like even side trance something crazy.
And then maybe some techno. But then I'll get on the
Stairmaster and listen to classical music, sometimes jazz,
so and when I'm reading my book,so I really am always listening
to different sounds. Sometimes it's goth music,
sometimes it's, I don't know, hard techno, like it's really

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all over the place. And I think that's what is gets
me inspired, hearing so many different sounds.
I want to play these things all the time.
That's why having Twitch is great because I could play some
really soft, airy organic house one day, like a down tempo vibe,
and then the next time play somereally hard style, like really

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scary and dark techno and like that.
You can't always do that at a show, you know.
So the answer to that question is I'm listening to everything
all the time and I'm always listening to music just because
I I love the experience. I think that it adds to the
ambience of any situation, whether it be driving or at the
gym or going for a walk. Like I just feel like music is

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so essential for me all the time.
I'm the same, honestly. Like I always have music going
non-stop. I'm working, I'm in the car, I'm
at the gym, like whatever, I can't stop listening.
And I'm like you where I as somebody who is A and enjoy,
like a lover of music and likes going to shows to hear somebody
who is on the opposite end, who's going to be, who performs

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saying I listen to everything under the sun.
That to me is a good sign because I'm like, yes, of course
you need to have a wide range ofinfluences that can allow you.
Because to me the, and I said this in a previous episode,
talking to another friend of mine who's a DJ, I was like, to
me, the best sign of like, like a good DJ is somebody who takes

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you on a journey, who there's highs and lows.
There's it's not this, I can't handle this.
Like I call it, OK, this is going to sound awful, but like
there's like dance music and like, there's like straight
people dance music, which I jokingly say like where it's
like the like marshmallows of the world.
You know what I mean? Where I'm like, Oh my God.
Like it's things I just find like it's the same beat over and

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over again. It's very like rinse and repeat.
And I don't really vibe with that.
Whereas like if there's like a journey, like like there's some
more to it. And I, I say like you honestly
did that. Like I, I love the fact that
it's like heavy, there's melodic, like you mix it all
together and to me that is you're doing the damn thing for.
Sure, thank you so much for noticing that.
I, I think when I started to DJIthought that I should play music

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that like would be dancing like,you know, I would expect people
would be dancing to this. But then as I kind of grasped
into the scene a little bit, I started to realize that the
performance isn't about the crowd.
It's more about hearing what I'mplaying and playing it for
people. So like, I have to kind of

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impress myself before I can impress the crowd.
And I like to kind of slow it down a little bit so that you're
not necessarily dancing and you're kind of thinking about
what's going on in front of you instead of like losing yourself.
Like I want there to be thoughtscoming out of the performance of
like, wow, what's going on rightnow?
This is interesting. This is different and like the

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dancing is great. Obviously we.
Want the? Dancer to fucking go off, but we
also want to educate the crowd on like what is possible to be
heard. I like to kind of slow it down
and have breaks that are longer than you would expect at a live
show with so many people there, because it kind of gives people
a moment to relax and really feel what's going on right now.

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And then when the drop goes off,that's the best part.
Get back into it. Exactly, exactly.
But yeah, thank you for noticing.
I'm not coming at this to be like, well, I have a refined
ear, but I have spent so many hours on dance floors in my life
and I've gone to like so many clubs, so many parties.

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I've seen so many DJs live and like this is something I love.
Like I always joke. I'm like, I missed my calling as
a DJI should have done it. I'm the kid that was like I
always made playlists. I've made mixtapes as a kid.
Me too. Always every party I I would
host parties, just being like, I'm going to create a vibe.
You go to like house parties andyou're like, OK, so we're just

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playing YouTube Music videos. Like, are we really doing this?
Like, you know what I mean? Right.
Like, let's elevate the experience even though it's just
at home. Let's make it.
I don't know. 100% I know I that's so funny that you bring
it up because this is something that I wanted to bring up to you
and I did put it in the questionnaire you sent me when
I'm. Just doing my job.
Yes, you sure are. I'm so good at it.

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I'm like I have all the points of like.
How do I string the topics together?
Oh. My God, look at you.
Anyways, sorry, I just had to say that.
I'm just, I'm loving it. You're so good at this.
So when I was, I was telling youearlier, when I was younger,
probably around grade 8 or something, so my sister, she was

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dating this guy who was a DJ andthey would throw parties.
And I obviously lived in the same house as them because they
lived with my parents. And I thought it was so cool
that he DJD and so I I threw this party, actually it was a
grade 9 and invited as many people as I could.

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When the people showed up, we charged $5 at the door for every
entry. I love it.
We hired ADJ which was my sister's boyfriend at the time.
We used all that money to pay for the sound system and the DJ
equipment, which it covered all of the cause.
So there I was, 14 years old throwing a party, and here I am

(29:07):
26, also doing the same thing. It's actually kind of crazy that
yeah, it's, I started so young and I never knew this would be
something that I would enjoy so much.
But end up we ended up having tostop the party at like 11:30
because my mom was like there's too many kids here.
Oh, your mom was home? Yeah, my mom was the fact that.
OK. Are your parents immigrant?

(29:29):
Yeah. OK, so same.
There's something about immigrant parents like mine or
Italian, they're they were so such sticklers on certain
things. But when it came to like, you
know, have friends over, drink illegally and you have a fake
ID, as long as I can drive you, you're good.
You know what I mean? But like, God forbid you sleep
at someone's house and you don'tsleep over anywhere.

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You sleep in your own bed. But you can drink illegally with
a fake ID downtown. I'll pick you up.
You know what I mean? Like, it's for sure the fact
that they're like, yeah, have a party.
It's fine. I love that.
Mom, I'm gonna have a party. And she's like, OK, but there's
so many kids. There was grade twelves at my
party. I was like, Oh my goodness.
How did you guys find out about this party?

(30:10):
Hey, if there's a DJ party, a house party that's that's at
that age, I've never had that. So at 141516 that's cool, isn't?
That crazy. I can't believe we did something
like that. Like you said, unbeknownst to
you that was part, it kind of led to where you are today.
You're hosting party, you're throwing parties.
So what is do you have any upcoming events?

(30:32):
And so this this episode will come out I think in June.
You have the pier coming up. I will be there.
Yeah, and I think you're really gonna love it.
The guys have booked Newman. I saw that.
Yeah, and he's a tree. I saw him in Los Angeles and
he's just such a nice guy. Like he's beautiful and his

(30:55):
music is beautiful. So I think it's gonna be a hoot.
I'm just so sad. I'm gonna be out of town that
weekend. My.
Heart just sunk. You too, tell me about it,
friends flying out from all these places, coming from all
these places to come play music and to spend the weekend with
us. And I won't be here.
It's it's my best friend's batch.

(31:17):
That's yeah, I understand that. Yeah, it's essential that I'm
there. Yeah, you, you can't not be
there. For sure, but it's gonna be
great. So the peer June 6th or 7th I'm
not. Sure, I got to you're better
than me, you Holy shit, no 'cause I like live by my

(31:38):
calendar and so I already have. I'm like, oh, it's the 7th is I
remember. So talk to me about the hanger
'cause I have not actually attended.
I've seen videos you've and likeseen like the thing online but
like talk to me about the hangerparties because that is fucking
cool. OK.
So the hanger, I must say, it's a little more commercial than
the other events, just because it's such a bigger event for

(32:00):
SOTC that we need to advertise alot more and it's like a bigger
booking and more than one big booking.
So there's a lot of a lot going around that event.
But essentially the hangar is atWindsor Airport and an airplane
hangar and it's such a cool vibethere.

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I got to say it's something that's a must see in Windsor and
it's great for whoever you wannabring.
I mean it's 19 plus, so anybody above, but I think it's for
young people, older people, anybody who loves music and a
good time. We have like vendors and a bar
and all that good stuff. So it's like really interesting

(32:45):
to see the whole production in the airplane hangar with the
airplanes all around. They still keep them in there
and they take some of them out. It's really cool.
It's really cool. I've yet to attend 1 and I we
keep saying like our group of friends like we're like we have
to go. I want to attend it at some
point and I've started saying this earlier and we switched
gears but I want to go back to it cuz now I'm can finish.

(33:06):
My point is that I when I was talking about having moved to
Toronto and gone to every party,blah, blah, blah, going there
and then coming back to Windsor at that time.
So we're talking, you know, I moved, I moved to Toronto in O 7
and the difference in what the nightlife scene was like was as
somebody who loves dance music, I'm like, this is it's not the
same. You know what I mean?

(33:27):
Like I so seeing that there are more events happening in
Windsor, There are destinations,there's spots that like people
can come together and actually like just let it out on the
dance floor. To me is so such progress from
what it used to be growing up and not just at clubs.
To me, that's so special. And I like I said, like I love
the fact that you guys are doingthat.

(33:48):
Right. And it's, it's also online too.
And during COVID, we were throwing raves like on Twitch,
there's these things called raidtrains.
And like there's a start to finish.
Like let's say it starts at 2:00PM.
We've had these and then you raid into another streamer and
this can go on for like days. So we've just had virtual dance

(34:10):
floors even on Twitch and that was so great because you are
meeting a community of like minded people who love the same
thing as you. So you're kind of building a
community that way too, not justin Windsor.
So we've been able to go to so many place places and meet
lifetime friends from Twitch connected to music.

(34:31):
So I think that's been a really interesting thing too.
But also what I thought was really interesting is that
people in the music community asthe audience have been inspired
to start creating their own productions and so have started
to DJ and ask us questions aboutwhich controller should I start

(34:52):
with and how do you download music and look at my my lighting
in my home studio. Like these are people who come
to the events, who've been coming to our events and now
they want to start doing like minded things as us.
So it's been great to see the community's response and it's
always so positive all the time.Everyone is so kind and we're

(35:13):
thankful that we have this community to share with.
And then also bounce off ideas, you know, because it's not just
about throwing these cool parties, it's about the
community and making something interesting happen.
Not to sound cheese, but you know music does bring people
together. Yeah, for sure.
It really. Really does.
It's honestly like the amount ofmoments that I can, you know,

(35:36):
remember and not remember so well on the dance floor over the
years, they really have shaped me to who I am today.
Like I honestly, there's a part of me that I feel like a good
percentage of the people that I'm going to talk to you through
this podcast are going to be musicians in some way, shape or
form. And the fact that you guys are
Windsor based, as somebody from Windsor, I'm like, I love it.

(35:58):
I Rep it. That's why I reached out to you.
I was like, I want to talk to somebody who is a local queen
who's doing her thing and like fucking kicking ass and like, I
just, I think it's really cool what you guys are doing.
Thank you, I appreciate that. I know a lot of people shit on
Windsor and they'll say like, it's so shit.
Here. And like, there's a lot of other
places in the world that are so much more exciting.

(36:19):
I understand that. But I just feel like I don't
hate the place that's raised me and it continues to raise me and
help me grow. It doesn't matter where you are
in the world. Like you will take what you can
from the situation that you're in and make the best of it.
And I feel like there's so much opportunity here in Windsor.

(36:39):
Like I think even as an artist, there isn't so many places to
play perform. But I think it helps kind of
being a little bit of a big fishin a small city because you're
able to be more on a platform where other big cities can kind
of see me on a big stage performing with a great with
great production. So I'm really fortunate for the

(37:03):
situation that I'm in and I'm just taking advantage of it.
I'm running with it, playing with all the cards that I got
and trying to do it the best that I can so.
And good on you honestly cuz that's exactly my approach.
Like when I lived in Toronto, like I was like you know, fuck
Windsor. It sucks.
Like cuz I was young, I was 19 when I left and coming back I

(37:23):
was like, I can do more here faster than if I was in Toronto.
There's way more competition, especially as a designer.
I feel like, you know, there's so many more people.
And to me, the people that say like Windsor sucks, at this
point I'm like, OK, whatever, that's your opinion.

(37:44):
For. Sure, but I'm like have that
opinion because I look at peoplewho are taking the opportunity
that they can. I'm like think about it here.
I have firm like for my like thebranding that I do branding
primarily, and I think about like I have the art lab shred
shop. I had elevate, like all these
brands that like I can drive by and see a business.

(38:06):
That's my design up on the street.
I'm not going to see that as often in a bigger city with more
people, you know what I mean? And so you get out of it what
you put into it. So you saying like I can carve
out my dream here. Let's be real, with what you
guys are doing, there's there's not a lot of you.
So you have free reign to kind of create the world that you
want. And that to me is like, go

(38:27):
fucking go for it. Exactly.
And that's what I've thought these last three years, like
kind of before that I, I was wandering aimlessly through the
town and I realized that I need to take all of this fire.
Like I got to take my fiery personality and all these
emotions and passions that I have and put them into something

(38:50):
that's worthy of my potential. And I never truly understood
what that was until I started tolisten to electronic music and
go to shows and be with my partner.
And he really has taught me so much about the industry and
about myself and about music. And from there it was like a
fire was just lit and now we can't stop it.

(39:14):
Good, and I don't want you to. For sure, for sure.
I, I've just been, so I've been,I've been feeling so good and so
motivated. I've been going to the gyms in
the morning so I can make more time for like music production
in the evening and streaming in the evenings and all that good
stuff. So actually I was reading this

(39:35):
book and it was saying that you have the potential, but you
don't have the right habits. And I thought that was such an
interesting, interesting topic because I agree with it
completely. I was like, I have all these
things I want to do and I'm like, oh, I don't have time, but
I you really have time so. You have time.

(39:56):
What's going to help you prioritize is moving.
Your schedule around so you can make time for it.
And I mean having passion for what you want to do too.
Like you won't do it unless you unless you really fucking want
it. Yeah.
And The thing is like as creatives, like we, you have to
carve out that time period because life it normal life, it
will steamroll everything else. You know, like, Oh well, I have

(40:19):
to do this, I have to do that. I have I have other engagements
or, and like the minute that youstart to put your like, I don't
sound so cheesy like your art first, I'm making time for this.
I don't care. Like that was one thing that
really shifted things for me within the last like year it has
been I started letting like social shit get in the way and I

(40:40):
was like, what am I doing? Like this is I'm feeling guilty
over the fact that I'm not actually sitting down and saying
no like this day or these these hours.
I need time now, especially withthe podcast, like I have to do
it. I'm the one doing it all.
So I'm like, I have to sit down and do it.
I don't have a choice. For sure.
The rewards have been so plentiful because I'm like, I'm
actually sitting down and I'm, I'm carving out time to expand

(41:02):
my brand, work on my content. Like, as cheesy as that is, but
it's the truth that I'm like, I'm happy to put out.
I'm actually like, I like what I'm doing.
And you're probably in the same boat.
Oh yeah, 100% I'm in the same boat.
I think it's an interesting thing about being a creative is
that you also need to give your creative flow some, some fire,

(41:24):
you know, like some gas so it can keep going.
And like, you can't keep puttingthings out there unless you're,
I'm trying to think of a design reason where like you would just
keep going, you know, but like, sometimes it's decision making
and you can't always make these like micro decisions as an
artist because, or as a designerbecause your, your mind is too

(41:45):
cloudy. Like you need to kind of release
it and have a good time so that you're able to like put out
really good work, you know, And that's why I feel when I'm
streaming twice a week that I'llbe streaming for maybe like 3 to
5 hours, maybe 6. I'm like, it's kind of too much
for me. And I'm, I have this overload of
music and I, I'm not even likingwhat I hear.

(42:05):
Like it's music I've downloaded,but I'm, it's like overused in
my brain or like, you know, I'm kind of over it and I there's or
there's just, it's just too muchtime.
So I, I found that I have to take some breaks so I can, when
I get back, it'll be more of a flow state rather than like a
forced press play and mix. Like, I want people to really

(42:27):
feel the emotions when I'm playing and see me getting into
it because that's the realness of being an artist, you know?
Like so you kind of have to balance between work and play.
You do, you need to, you need that space because you can't, I
can't be head down all the time because otherwise it's like,
what are we doing? Like you get lost, like you said

(42:47):
or lost in the sauce in so many ways.
But I wanted to ask you on that note of because I asked this to
Nick Nicholas nothing when I talked to him a few episodes
ago. OK, so let's say you have an
event coming up or you're doing a show and you're like, OK, I
know the venue, I know the space, I know the type of vibe
that we're going for. How do you approach putting a
set together? Because.

(43:07):
And like, do you mix live? Like what's I have no idea how
this all works. So like what is your approach to
that? Because that, to me, is the most
interesting. I think the first thing for me
is knowing the venue, since I already kind of know what
production is going to be like because I have an inside scoop
most of the time if it's a big show, right?
I just want to know what the venue looks like and kind of

(43:30):
like the type of music that is expected to be played.
And then I will curate a set. So I do play live and I mix
live, but I like to play in my sets, most of them for big shows
from start to finish. Because I find that I get kind
of like a really scrambly mind. And if I'm on the fly looking

(43:53):
for a song that isn't exactly what I want it to be, I'll start
to get nervous and then I'll just click whatever it is and
then play that. And that's that's kind of like
nerves too. So it's something I have to kind
of gauge Twitches help me be able to curate sets like on the
fly and pick music that I like. But for shows, yes, I will

(44:16):
curate the set from start to finish and really pay attention
to the venue and what it looks like inside.
So I think that is a huge indicator of like what type of
music I'm going to be playing. If it's techno, if there's going
to be like breaks through the songs or it's just going to be
like full on hypnotic where there's not really a lot of

(44:37):
breaks and you know it. It really just depends on the
venue. I think curating is set is one
of my favorite things to do as an artist.
Like it's kind of weird cuz you'll be looking for new music
and I'll get in this pothole of like finding music that I love,
but it's not what I want. So then I'm like fuck, can I

(44:58):
fucking stay on track? And then I'm not finding what I
want cuz it's so specific and I get so frustrated.
But when it's all said and done and the music's being played, it
just makes it so, so much worth it.
Going back to what you're sayingonce again, like, I don't know,
you've what's going on in here, right?
Like I'm only looking at it froman outside perspective, but at
the end of the day, you know what you're doing, right?

(45:20):
Like I don't have to tell you that.
And the you know, you're saying like I I want to like pre, like
set it up beforehand because of like nerves or whatever.
Think about the back catalog of inspiration that you have
collected over, you know, let's say 10 years, right?
Since you've been going out to clubs and stuff or going out to
parties and venues, festivals. You have so much to pull from.
And I know that this can get in the way of, of ours.

(45:43):
We get in our own way, right? When we're like, for sure, going
back to what you said, I wanna feel good about this.
Like sure, it's about the the audience needs to react to it,
but at the same time like lean on you cuz you have so much in
your mind and your soul of what you've collected over the years
that you can put forth in a set to to create that experience for

(46:03):
the people that are there. For sure.
I think it is so important to trust yourself, trust your ear,
play from the heart. I know that sounds really
cheesy, but. It's not though.
That's how I feel like if I'm playing a set, it's because I
feel this way. Like if I'm really sexy and I'm,

(46:24):
you know, swinging my hips and I'm feeling.
Girl, you, you do the damn thing.
It's. Because I feel that way, right?
And I want the crowd to feel that way.
Like it's not so much about thisis how it looks and this is how
it sounds. I want the crowd to feel sexy.
Like I want them to feel themselves and feel everyone

(46:44):
around them. Like I like, I'll even say I
want people to start making out to this song.
Yes, you know what I mean? And it's happened.
I've called it out. People are going to start making
out to this. It literally happened.
And that is like the best feeling, you know, like not
playing to the crowd and what the crowd wants because they

(47:06):
don't always know. You have to kind of educate the.
People, you tell them what they want.
Exactly. Especially in this town, in this
small city, like you, you weren't exposed to so much here.
And so that's what we're trying to do is have people see and,
and understand a little bit moreof what is out there because

(47:26):
there's so much to listen to. There's too much.
And it's like, and it's amazing.Like music is so wonderful and
so beautiful and whatever you might be looking for is out
there for you. You just have to do research and
not a lot of people know that exists.
You know, like Top 40 is cool and there's a lot of, there's

(47:46):
music I like from Top 40, but like, there's, there's things
out there that you would never know that you love so much.
So Oh yeah. If you're listening, do some
research, look up something insane that you never would have
thought is a thing. Oh yeah. 100% and that's like my
so I am a Spotify SoundCloud band camp.

(48:10):
Those are my go to's where I look for music because
SoundCloud is where you can get the remix, the stuff that can't
be published on Spotify because Spotify prefer rights and
artists whatever. So you can get the underground
remix like club edit, whatever of like your favorite Top 40
artists by, you know, some random, not random, but like

(48:31):
some DJ who's not super popular,who is amazing.
Like there's so much talent on SoundCloud.
I swear you and I could talk forhours about this like.
For sure. I know it's an interesting thing
like categorizing music because I did that forever too.
Ever since I was a little girl, I would put playlist together

(48:51):
and like maybe they're not the same genre, but like these sound
good together, you know, or likethis rap all sounds really good
together. This kind of has like a jazzy
element like out and all the things that I'm naming my
playlist. Like when I was younger, it
wasn't like what kind of music it was.
It was more of like what kind ofday it was the.
Vibe. Yes.
Oh my God, songs like I'm sad orlike fucking girls night, Let's

(49:16):
go. No, like, you know what I mean?
Yes, it's more about the the vibes.
When I was in high school, my friend D her and I so like D&G
were our initials. So I would make mixtapes and
it'd be like Dolce and Gabbana like and it would be like, it
would all be like Italo like house mixed stuff with like like
the back of like the Julia days.Like Oh my God, do you know that

(49:37):
song? I don't know.
It's like every Italian wedding will play it.
It's like Julia. Oh yeah, that song, like that
era of like dance music, like, Oh my God.
I think it's like 2005, like 4. Like for sure.
I was 6 but. Yeah, shut the fuck up.
I was born in 98. Oh my God.

(49:59):
So yeah, you and my sister are like the same age.
She's 99. Oh, come.
On yeah. When's your birthday?
November. Scorpio.
Sagittarius, you know what's so funny?
I live like majority of my life thinking as a Scorpio because I
never checked the dates because I'm, you know, not all there

(50:21):
sometimes. And I was like, every time I
would read a horoscope or something, I'm like, I thought
it was Scorpio. So like, I'm like, that's so
true. So.
Me. I'm living my life like so fiery
when I'm like, really, you know,not that crazy.
Now that you're, you know, you've been doing this for a
couple years, sounds of the Collective has become like an

(50:41):
established group in the Windsorarea.
Are you guys travelling at all? Like have you guys been booking
gigs elsewhere and like where doyou see the next few years for
you? Yes, the company travels and
they go to Toronto and then fromhere to Toronto are not yet
going to the States. Hopefully soon that'll be a

(51:02):
thing. But I think through them getting
booked for sound rentals in other cities like Toronto per
SE, they've been booked on some crazy shows where they're like
insane big artists. So I've been able to go
backstage and meet artists and kind of like hang out and be

(51:27):
around the crowd, you know, and the, the vibes without having to
work. So that's been really cool.
Kind of like networking that way.
But I'm not, I'm not like a pushy person.
So I'll never put on like I sometimes won't even talk to
people. Like I don't want to bother
anybody and I don't want to push.
Girl. I feel that you know what I

(51:48):
mean? Like eventually I'm sure they'll
see what I'm doing. And I kind of like a confidence
thing too. Like I need to know that I am
good enough for this position. Like if I need to flaunt
something, there's a time and place for it kind of, you know.
But it's been really cool being able to be a part of the
production and going in and out of all these these insane

(52:09):
parties. But for me, I think what we'll
have to see how it goes like cuzI like I said before, the our
two ways are parting a little bit and I'm like not an owner of
the company. I'm kind of more like a
designer. We'll just have to see how it
goes like what's going on with them.
They have a few things going on that I cannot discuss, but it's

(52:32):
really, really exciting and really interesting and I think
that will help. For somebody who's only a couple
years in, like you said, you've been doing it three years.
For 2 1/2. 2 1/2 OK, So just about 3, your brand to me as
somebody who's in branding is pretty stamped and you work in
design, which I did not know that.
When I can, I'll do it. I, I found that like I was

(52:54):
putting so much of my energy into helping others and being a
part of something else that it's, this is the year that I
have to hone down and really start getting into music
production and seeing like a more clear future and drawing
that line and drawing that path.So there has been a little bit

(53:15):
of a mental separation from likeall other projects that I've had
going on previous to this year. So this year is all about Royce.
Where are we going, what are we doing, and let's fucking do it
as big as possible. I love that because listen, at
the end of the day, like, you know, it's great to work with
people, but you also know that you need to put that put the

(53:38):
gas. The pedal to the gas.
Yes, pedal to the gas. Pedal.
I don't know, OK, I'm glad we'reboth like, not knowing what the
fuck we're saying. But we got to it together.
We got to it. But no, it's true.
Like you have to be the one to ride the train for yourself.
And I think that the like you'resaying with the the base and the

(53:59):
foundation of what you've had over the last few years, that is
already so rich in experience that like, once again, I don't
know, like I'm just saying this as an outsider, but I feel like
that's gonna be enough to push you forward.
You've already got such a good product.
To me, it's just like now you just got to keep, keep it going,
right? I got to keep the momentum.
I have to do my research and I have to do it really well.

(54:21):
And the thing about me is like when I start something, like I
have to be so good at it. Like it's just like, I'm not
saying I'm so good, but it's just like a mental thing for me.
I've always been that way for when I was little, like when I
was little, I was riding my bikewith these training wheels.
I'm like, I'm going to take these fucking things off because

(54:41):
they're stopping me from my wideturns.
I just put them out. I took them off on my own, grab
my daddy's tools and I drove down the the thing and I just
went because I was like, I don'tlike training wheels.
I want to jump right into it. Just dive into the pool.
And get it fucking done it. But I have to do it so well.
So that's just kind of how I feel like I have that pressure

(55:03):
on myself. It really drives me to like be
the best that I can be honestly it with the results because you
have to see, you know, some typeof finish line and you have to
want to cross that line so fucking bad.
So that's essentially how I feellike, but you won't I won't get
there unless I fucking lock fuckin.

(55:25):
So we're locking it. Yeah, and on that note, so when
you 'cause I'm the same as you were, like I, I will just dive
in. I'll just do the thing.
I'm like no one else is gonna doit the way that I'm gonna do it.
I know that I have, I like I have, I'm a type.
So I'm like I I can just do it better than anyone else.
Like in for, for me, you know, so whatever.
But so, you know, you're like, oh, I want to set that goal.

(55:48):
I want to get that past that finish line.
But like for you, what is it? When you wait, let's say you
pass that, like, how do you redefine what's next?
Like, you know what I mean, 'cause I know it's easy.
Like for I'm the person that I'll I'll achieve something but
I won't even really acknowledge it because I'm always looking.
'Cause you're like, what's next?Yes, that is so true.
I think what I'm striving for inthis life is to live my daily

(56:16):
life and do things that I want to do.
And like, that sounds so simple,but there's so many
complications with that, with that type of lifestyle.
And I think to obtain that lifestyle, I have to make a lot
of money, but also be really happy with what I do because I'm

(56:38):
a creative person. Like I can't just sit behind a
computer every day or like, you know, like do do little things.
Like I want to have an extravagant life and I want to
be happy in my every daily life.So that's what I want from all
of this. And I think music brings me

(56:59):
happiness and it it lights a fire inside me that I never
truly understood. Like I can get emotional because
it honestly was like, it saved my life and I'm like so grateful
for everything that I do every day.
So I always honestly forget thatI'm truly living my dream right
now and it's only gonna get better from here.
So. That energy.

(57:21):
I'm like, so I'm supposed to suck?
Look at me. I love it.
No, this. I love this because it's
authentic. And this is the thing.
Like this is what people need. I love this moment.
You're so cute. Oh.
My God, I'm such an emotional person, but.
I respect it. That's that's what makes me me,
you know, like I'm not afraid tocry on a stage, like cry in

(57:44):
front of people because it is who I am.
Like it's taken me my whole lifeto really own in who I am.
And this is the topic that I forgot later earlier that I want
to bring up now is that it's notyour job to make anyone feel
comfortable. And so if you are doing
something and people are uncomfortable, like with reason,

(58:07):
obviously you don't want to shiton anybody.
But like, if people don't like who you are or what you're
doing, but you're enjoying yourself, like it's nobody's
business. Yeah.
Honestly, for me, it's not even like a fuck you.
It's kind of like, it's OK. You don't like, not everybody's
on the same wavelength as you. And you kind of have to like

(58:29):
empathize with, with their situation, you know, like I am
like happy and I'm blessed and like, you just cannot let
negativity fuel your fire. Like you have to let happiness
fuel your fire. Like it's a good thing to see
things that make you angry and be like, fuck that.

(58:51):
I don't want that. But like, it's such a better
life if you let happiness fuel you rather than like anger and
like to spare type of thing so. No, I love it and the emotion
are real because so many people now will they focus on such like
on the shit and that's we're also programmed to do that
because the media is programmingus to focus on negative, right?

(59:14):
You're in an industry that you love, that you, that brings you
joy, that gets you emotional in a way that is in alignment with
what is for what, what makes sense for me as a human.
That just shows that you are exactly where you need to be
right now, right? 100% And there was like this one
day and I remember it like it was like something a flip was

(59:38):
switched in my brain or literally I was like, life is
going to be amazing. Like I am so capable.
I'm going to get there. And it made me emotional because
I was like, I'm so proud of myself for coming to that
realization that like we're going to get whatever we want in
this life. Like it made me so happy to
realize like and see my true potential like in my own self.

(01:00:02):
Like I know that that sounds so cheesy, but it's so true.
Like everybody has the potential.
It's like, are you allowing it? To exist.
You're not getting in your own way.
Not to sound cheese once again, that's actually something we
keep saying all the whole time. But this conversation, me not

(01:00:23):
having really ever talked to youbefore, reaching out to you, you
saying yes and then coming to realize that we have so much in
common and how we view our, our past, our careers, our, our
creativity, that that to me is like, Oh, you're, I'm
manifesting. What I'm saying is like, I'm
bringing people into my life that are in alignment with what

(01:00:44):
I'm striving for, which is connection.
And so at the end of the day, like this long fucking winded
thing is to say, you know, thankyou.
Oh. My gosh, of course.
Thank you. When you are in that flow state
of life and realizing that like you have to put something out

(01:01:04):
there to obtain something else. Like when you're able to do that
continuously do it like you'll find confidence and happiness in
yourself and in your in your abilities.
And that's the only way that anything will align with you,
like you said, like you won't find your soul mates in the

(01:01:26):
people who are meant to be a part of your life unless you are
the best version of yourself. Yeah.
And it's like that said all overthe world every day.
But it is so true when you trulylive it and realize it that your
potential is not just how you act in in the abilities you
have. And you know what you do every

(01:01:48):
day? It's also the people who could
be a part of your life because we are human and we need
interaction and we need love andconnection.
And that's essentially what it'sall about.
It's not just about ourselves. But you cannot have happiness
and cannot have a happy family and friends and a happy life if
you don't start with yourself. Like honestly.

(01:02:12):
Preach 100%. You know what?
I mean, I just wish there was some type of like some type of
equation where like if you are in a really bad state, like of
how to get out of that, you know, 'cause it's different for
everybody. Everyone's life is different.
So the equation would be different for everybody.

(01:02:33):
But I just wish that there was some way to like help people to
reach their potential. I.
Don't know, not to get to like woo woo or whatever, but the way
that I view what the fuck this dog and pony show is on Earth,
like why we're here. We're all trying to like find,
get back to who we are, which islike that, You know, I think
we're genuinely spiritual beingshaving a human experience.

(01:02:56):
And the whole point here is it'snot to pay taxes, it's not to
have to work. It's not to do all these things
that the system that we've been born into has forced upon us.
I think the, the reason that we're here is to experience what
this reality is meant to be. So it's like the physical, we're
meant to feel emotions, we're meant to feel pain and love and

(01:03:17):
all these things and, you know, touch and whatever.
And that's why we're here. And I think that whatever that
we learn here is what we take back, whatever that is.
And like, I don't know, like I'mnot saying we go back to heaven.
Like I'm just saying like whatever it is, 'cause I can't
believe that it's nothing after this, you know what I mean?
And so I don't, that's what gives me like, you know what,
just have fun while you're here,which is it's hard, but that's,

(01:03:40):
that's why we're here, you know,to connect, like we said.
Exactly, and it takes work, likedon't get me wrong, it takes
work to be happy. You know, you can't just wake up
and we're like, I'm fucking so happy and like it's so good, you
know, like and that's another thing, like I feel like I've
been in a situation where I'm like, why is this not like this?
Why is this not like that? But it's but you kind of have to

(01:04:01):
not even have that question. Like don't even ask yourself
that question or think it, you kind of just keep going, keep
going and make make things happen, you know?
It's like, what am I meant to learn versus like, why is this
happening to me? Like just switching that for me
has been a game changer where I'm like, things don't really

(01:04:22):
affect me as much as they used to because I'm like, shit is
always going to happen. You can't avoid it.
It's just life. So it's like just fucking chill,
like, and exactly, you know whatI mean?
Ride the wave. 100% ride that wave.
Yeah, girl. Get that.
Get that cowboy hat on. So we are coming to the end of

(01:04:48):
this, which I'm I can't believe it's been almost an hour and 20
minutes already. Like legit how's it?
Oh my God, I just looked at the time, it was 1140.
Yeah, and it's been another 40 minutes.
Holy shit, Robin, a great time. It's a good sign.
We are, I know we got to go for a coffee sometime. 100% I was
going to say I'm like, we actually have to hang out.

(01:05:08):
Like I now that we've done this,I'm like, OK, great.
Like I love that our first actual conversation was
recorded. Like I'm obsessed with that and
how how it's just a vibe and I'mI'm I'm very much down to get
together. OK, cool.
Got. A little D.
Yes, I'm so down. Oh my God, we could talk all
things design music like I'm so in.

(01:05:29):
I have so many questions for you.
I wanna know so much more about what you're doing and what
you're going on. Like we are both designers
grabbing. I know that's fucking cool shit.
Did you go to school for that? I went to Saint Clair.
OK, so I did a year there and then booked it to Toronto.
So I've been asking. I don't know if you've seen any
of the episodes in their entirety, and if you haven't, I

(01:05:49):
don't care. That's fine.
I will. I will.
You're like just this one. No, I'm, I'm, I'm totally
shitting you. Like I'm, I'm kidding, like I
don't worry. But so I've been asking each
guest at the end of each episode, remember, correct
question and this can be either personal or professional, like

(01:06:11):
it doesn't have to be specific, but what would you say is the
most on brand thing that you've ever done?
I feel like it's kind of inappropriate.
OK, now I need to know. We can cut this if you want.
Honestly, I gotta say, I live mylife every day just being

(01:06:32):
unapologetically myself. And that's Royce too.
Like Royce is very much me. I just like Charlene, my God, I
never say my name out loud. It's very much me, but like a
different version, you know, like a version of me that I've
always wanted to be and kind of like a bad ass bitch, you know?

(01:06:53):
And that's essentially how I tryto live my life every day.
But if there is like a certain moment, honestly that's a really
hard question to answer for me cuz I just you.
Kind of answered it though, likeyou don't need to give me more.
Like I feel like that was enough.
Unless you want to, then I'm notgonna stop you.
But. I don't know, I think starting

(01:07:15):
this whole music venture was very on brand for me because
I've always loved music. I've always been fascinated with
DJ ING and shows and I talked about it like I manifested it.
Really, I really, really did. I told my friends I'm going to
do this, I'm going to do that and I and I keep doing it like
I'll tell my my friends on twitch, like I'm going to start

(01:07:36):
producing. I'm going to do this because
it's like holding myself accountable kind of.
So I think on brand thing was islike chasing whatever the fuck I
want and getting it so. Girl, I love that.
I like mad respect and I'm just so excited to see like, what's
next for Royce. For sure, me too.
I'm excited too. I'm excited to get after it like

(01:07:59):
it's, it's a part of the journeytoo.
You know every day is a journey,so you have to make it fucking
count. Yes, so if anybody listening
wants to check you out online, listen to your music download
like you know follow you on on Twitch, like see you live like
where can they find you? So you could just check out the

(01:08:20):
Instagram and from there any oneof the sites has a link to all
these places. So I am very much findable.
Google search would help too. I'll put all of your socials in
the show notes as well so peoplecan click directly from here.
For sure. Thank you.

(01:08:40):
Oh no problem, thank you. Honestly like I appreciate you
saying yes this is great like I had.
This is such a nice conversationand I look forward to hanging
out in person. Yes, me too.
It's gonna be great. I feel like we should do coffee
and then get a cocktail right after.
Yeah, I'm down that. Would be so fun.
Do you drink? I don't.

(01:09:01):
No. Oh.
My God, I. Literally was just.
That's why I asked. Oh my.
Goodness no, I've been off alcohol for like 2 years now.
Good. For you.
That's but like I'm California sober.
I always say that. What does that mean?
I smoke, I'll smoke weed or. Have.
That's great. Yeah, I know it's got to be
done. It's got to be done.
Just going to the shows, yeah, Like going to a show, I feel

(01:09:25):
like it's so nice to like, just have a puff, you know?
100% yeah, with a bit with a bitof caffeine, my go to.
OK and then I'll let you go. Before I had dabbled in anything
like chemical like I my mix. When did you ever go to fly in
Toronto? No.
OK so Fly was like a big mega club in the gay village.

(01:09:45):
It was a gay club and they played like the best music.
Like it was just like such good,like Top 40 like all the Divas
mixed in with like trance and house and like it was just such
a vibe with like these crazy lights.
It was amazing. It was so much fun.
I remember I would go there and I would drink vodka Red Bulls
and smoke weed and that mix of like the up and the down

(01:10:07):
combined. Perfect.
It was like, I can equate it to feeling like Molly.
Yeah. Like, like light Molly light.
That was my, that was my, my cocktail.
Like my mix when I would go out before I found drugs.
And then you're like, bam. Oh, Mama's home like.
I know I actually kind of missedthat, like going to party and

(01:10:29):
just just losing yourself a little bit and just, you know,
feeling vibes. But I mean, now that I'm a DJ,
it's nice to still party, but then like, I do have to work and
perform. I have to work.
It's still so enjoyable, like it's so fun to be a part of the
party scene still. Like I don't go out very often.
So like when I do, it's because I'm performing.

(01:10:50):
So like, I like being a part of it still, and that's how.
Yeah, I, like basically go sobernow and I'm I could just fucking
vibe. That's my my, my wild night.
When however, same, especially if you're like with your right
people, yes. Like if I'm with my sister and
any of our friends, we don't need a drink, we don't need to
do anything. We can stay in a blank room and

(01:11:10):
just, like, laugh until we're freaking pissing ourselves.
I love that. You know what I mean?
Yes, My sister and all her friends, they're like, and all
of our friends, I got to say they're like 10 years older.
Actually, they're like 7, whatever.
Seven years close, nine years. So like everyone's getting

(01:11:31):
married and having kids and like, you know, doing all their
things. And there's me, I'm just out
here in the club DJing. So you're working.
Yeah, that's true. That's.
True. You're working.
Like to me if you're in nightlife, that's your thing.
Even if you're out like that's, you're working on some to some
extent. Yeah, for sure.

(01:11:51):
You're collecting data. You're that's you're. 100%.
You it's not. You're not working.
Exactly, but like that's a that's real like so for you,
especially like I, if you're like out, I'm like, oh, she's
working. Like even if you're not
performing, you're working on some to some extent.
And for anybody who's looking toreach out to me, you can follow
the podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcast, iHeartRadio, YouTube,

(01:12:12):
Subscribe, follow, comment. And if you're looking to talk to
me about design or branding, youcan reach out to
methroughmywebsite@geographic.com.Anyway, thank you.
Bye, guys. Bye.

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