June 10, 2025 • 42 mins
The Mission Within: From Covert Operations to Conscious Leadership with Ido Kalev
What if true leadership wasn’t defined by your title, but by your ability to stay grounded when the world shakes? What if the confidence you seek doesn’t come from proving but from pausing?
Today’s guest knows what it means to lead under fire, literally and figuratively. Meet Ido Kalev, a former elite Israeli security officer who led covert operations across international borders, often with no room for error and no one to ask for permission. But behind the classified missions and silent victories was a man navigating invisible wounds, unspoken pressure, and the weight of leadership that doesn’t clock out.
After two decades of service, Ido began a new mission—one that started within. His journey through trauma recovery, emotional healing, and post-military transformation led him to discover a deeper truth: leadership isn’t just about control—it’s about capacity. The capacity to feel. To see. To serve with presence. To rebuild from within.
Today, Ido is a sought-after leadership strategist, speaker, and the author of the upcoming memoir The Spy Who Led Me, where he reveals how high-stakes leadership intersects with emotional resilience. His work empowers founders, CEOs, and visionaries to lead from a place of quiet strength, unshakable identity, and soul-level clarity—especially after the storm.
If you’ve ever wrestled with performance pressure, past trauma, or the loneliness of leadership… this episode is your permission to go deeper. To heal, to reconnect, and to rise.
This is your invitation to witness what happens when a man who once lived in the shadows steps fully into the light—with wisdom, courage, and compassion.
👉 Connect with Ido on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ido-kalev/
Follow his journey and join the movement to lead with truth, presence, and emotional integrity.
Episode Transcript
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My next guest today has led
missions where every second
counts and every mistake
could cost a life.
But his most courageous mission,
healing from what no one saw.
Today's guest is a former
elite Israeli security
officer whose career
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spanned covert operations,
crisis response and
international diplomacy.
But what happens after the
mission ends and the uniform comes off?
What is the emotional weight
that remains in this
powerful conversation?
Edo opens up about the
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hidden toll of high
performance leadership,
the cost of
compartmentalization and the
slow intentional process of
reclaiming wholeness.
If you've ever led silently, breaking,
this episode is for you.
It's time to rewrite the
definition of courage from
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battlefield to boardroom,
from survival to surrender.
This episode of Grasp
Confidence is for you.
Ido, welcome to the show.
Thank you, Tara.
Yes.
You know,
I saw people saying your introductions
Amazing.
It is amazing.
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Too amazing.
It's all true.
It's all true.
Embarrassed a little bit, but yeah.
Yes.
So...
You're joining us today from
Israel and I'm, I think this, you know,
your background is so interesting.
I've never really
interviewed anybody from
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your background before.
You know,
we're talking about elite operations, um,
mission in like a really
high stakes environment and you know,
where every second counts,
where any like hesitation
moment could cost a life.
That's a lot of pressure.
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It is.
It is.
But, you know,
when you have those kind of missions,
you don't have time to think.
So you first prepare to the mission.
You are making all the
preparations needed.
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You talk to your team.
You make them relax.
They know you already.
You pass with them.
Even before the first mission,
even before that,
we make such an introduction with us,
I mean, all of us from the heart inside.
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That's what I was doing, at least,
because others have
different kind of ways.
But the purpose is that when we are there,
you know,
everything is not what you
planned or written or being ordered to.
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It's a mess.
And then they need to trust you.
And if you are not trusting
yourself or even when you have fear,
when you have the fear,
you cannot show it.
So you have to
fear inside,
but the fear has two directions,
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by the way, direction that frees you,
which is a very common thing.
And the second one is that
the direction that makes you focus.
And when it makes you focus, you also can,
you know,
you can screen it to the other people.
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And this is your team,
this is your family.
So
When you are using the fear
to be focused and to take
decisions without thinking,
without thinking about the consequences,
without thinking about anything.
You think about the moment
or the second you are in,
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if you can complete the
mission or if you cannot
complete the mission.
Let's say, ninety point nine percent,
let's say, we complete the mission.
but in different ways,
which can be also the last mission,
by the way,
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the first can be the last as well.
But I, you know,
it's something within that when you do it,
you don't think about this at all.
You just think about, bring them home.
That's that, you know, they have families,
brothers, sisters,
mothers at the beginning,
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and then they have wives and children.
So this is the first thing
that I put inside my heart, even,
not only in my mind.
And the second is the mission,
which is prioritized differently,
by the way, with others.
Because, you know, operators,
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and I see it a lot,
they just see the tunnel
vision of the target, which is good,
yeah?
But also, but in a different way.
in a way that I will do
something maybe crazy, maybe crazy,
but they will follow me anyway,
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because they know that if I
did it already,
because I'm not that crazy,
but I am if I need to.
So if I already do something crazy,
they will follow.
And they also don't care about that.
They didn't care about anything, just,
you know.
So yeah, it's a big,
it can be a big burden,
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But I never thought about this, you know,
until maybe a few years ago,
but never thought about this.
Never.
Wow.
Well, it's, you know, I see this a lot,
you know,
in just my conversations with
executive leaders.
as well or high level
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entrepreneurs high
performing leaders you know
sometimes people can get
stuck in analysis paralysis
and nothing happens right
you just overthink yourself
to death and there's a
point where I mean you need
to think you need to plan
you need to strategize but
at what point are you going
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to execute at what point
are you just going to take action
And in your case,
there was no time sometimes
to think or plan or strategize.
You just had to go with an
instinct at a moment.
And what I like something
that you said that people
trusted you to make the right decision,
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but trust.
It's an instant, right?
That has to be built over a
long period of time.
So if we're talking about leadership,
they had seen you
demonstrate trustworthy attitudes,
trustworthy executions on
things well before, you know,
this particular moment took
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place so that they were
trusting of your abilities at that time.
That's huge.
Yeah, you know, leadership,
at least as I see it,
build on multiple things.
I mean, variety of values and character.
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And you need to establish it
to one thing complete and go with it,
not to overthink.
and because as you said when
you're overthinking you got
you stuck you're stuck and
and if you're stuck nothing
happens and you will freeze
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you will freeze uh you know
I was a child already when
I started to understand
that I you know I take
decisions most of the time
let's say you know of
course not it's not a hundred percent but
when it came to life or death decisions,
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it was a hundred percent
because my people, I mean, my team,
my brothers, I call it my brothers,
but it sounds, you know,
I don't know what it sounds,
but this is my brothers.
And for me,
they were the first to take care of.
The rest, yes, it's the mission,
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but the mission it's,
I heard a lot of ways.
I mean,
the mission comes next from my
point of view.
And I said also to my
commanders back there and
to my commanders during the
time that I was out of the Navy,
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and I always told them,
you need to trust me
because I usually went to
places when they were
broken most of the time.
I have many examples,
but when they send me
already to those places,
they knew that it's my way.
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It's my way because my way showed success,
which I never meant.
I mean, I didn't think about the success.
And I think this is the point.
You don't need to think about success.
You don't need to think about, you know,
how we will go on and be the
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chief of the chiefs.
No, no, no.
You just need to do your job,
take care of the people.
You have to build something
from the beginning,
so build it from the
beginning and from the
point that you asked about my people.
Yeah, I knew all of them, the family,
all the roots, who is sick,
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who needs money, who have problems.
I mean, I knew everything.
before the mission before we
went out to the mission I
was asking in front of
everybody because this is
this is the way we opened
up and I explained them of
course before what I think
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and this is the way I do it
you know it's me or you can
choose but you know try and
when we went to missions anywhere
Not in Israel.
We can say it, you know,
according to foreign media.
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We always say, I asked,
what is the problem with the, it's fixed,
not fixed.
I mean, what do we need to do?
Even if it's not fixed,
we will fix it later.
Okay.
But I need to know it
because then he told everything, you know,
mindset,
he told everything it's out of you.
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He took it out.
Even if it's not fixed,
I will fix it because I did.
I did.
I fixed.
But I said, okay, if we need,
we can write it down.
At the beginning, I said.
Later on, I didn't say anything.
They knew.
Let's write it down.
And then I will do this.
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I will use every power that I have.
And I have inside of me,
I have the energy to do anything.
for the people that I love.
So I did everything.
And from this form,
I knew that this is my way
to touch the people,
that they will not have to follow orders.
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They will have to follow me, me.
Yeah.
That's the thing.
Well,
and it's because you took the time to
invest in them first.
You took the time to learn who they were,
what they were going through,
learn about them, their families.
Um, and that's really how trust is built.
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Um, and then, you know, as a leader,
Once you've built that trust
over a period of time,
then when the next thing
comes and you ask them to trust you,
they already do.
And that's the powerful thing about it,
right?
But I want to take a little
segue here because there
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was a really powerful
mission that you had in your life.
It was one you never saw coming, right?
It was after the wars, after catastrophes,
after the mission was over.
And I follow your content on LinkedIn.
You recently started a newsletter,
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which is growing rapidly.
People from all over the
world are subscribing to your newsletter.
They're sending you private
messages saying your
content is resonating with them.
And it's called The Mission Within.
So I want to talk a little
bit about this because
we're talking about, you know,
these global missions that you've been on,
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these intense operations,
but there was a mission
within and there was a mission at home.
And I would love for you to
talk to the listeners today
a little bit about that.
Okay.
You know, when you started talking now,
I already felt emotions, which is good,
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you know, because I think it's,
something that I want to
share and I need to I need
to because okay I was
protecting my my people all
the time it doesn't matter
if it's a team or multiple
teams or hate android
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employees I mean agents
operators but what when you
are investing a lot I mean
everything I think
in this, you know,
and they are very important for you.
I told you it's a family,
but what is the real family?
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It's the wife, it's the children.
In my case,
it's my two daughters and I was
out a long time.
I mean, many times I've been, you know,
two days I said, I'm coming back.
I went and I came back after three weeks,
which is not, you know,
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So I lost a lot of time.
And what I'm really doing
now is telling leaders, managers,
commanders, it doesn't matter who,
because people are driven by career,
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by the titles,
but they don't think about
what they sacrifice.
And what is more important,
the prioritizing
It's a bit, you know, there is a big, uh,
uh, you know, it's,
it's a cloud that you have
to be very precise because
I lost almost my family.
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Uh, well, it's harder because when I came,
uh, once, once I came home and, uh,
I didn't understand.
what happened because I saw my, you know,
my young daughter, she was, uh, nine,
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twelve years old.
I mean, four years ago,
not a long time ago, by the way,
five years ago, almost.
And I saw that something is wrong.
Uh, it was the second year of corner.
So call me the twenty one,
five years ago and five, four,
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It doesn't matter.
The matter is that I came
back and I saw that she's
in the room and I will add two days,
three days that I didn't do anything.
So I was at home and I love my,
I like home.
I love my family.
I like to be at home.
I love the private
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environment because you are
always outside.
So you love to be.
In the moment of silence, you love it.
Actually, you need it.
You need it.
You need the family.
You need it.
And when I came, I didn't have anything.
I just had quiet,
but the quiet wasn't good.
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It was bad because all of them,
but the younger one, Lior,
she was at her room, didn't go out,
didn't say hello, didn't talk.
She was like,
And she was the one, she's like, I mean,
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I call her mini me.
She's really mini me.
I mean,
I would like you to meet her
because she's really funny.
She's really, you know, she's full of,
she was full of life.
Yeah, I mean, she didn't die, but almost.
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I understood that we have a problem,
but I didn't know how
serious this problem is.
I didn't know because I wasn't there.
I didn't know who's the friends,
who are the friends and who,
what is that?
And I'm used to,
I knew everything about my team,
my friends, my colleagues.
I knew everything.
I didn't know anything about my family,
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which was a big, this is my failure,
actually.
One of the biggest ones.
I mean, if I think about,
failure this is the most uh
I mean I don't think it's
not important it's just the
most uh emotional and
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breaking breaking and I was
broken by the way I was I
was as much as I was a
commander I was doing so
many things you know I I
didn't show emotion when I
did some you know but over there
I don't remember when I cried.
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Also now I feel it, but I almost,
over there, I just started to cry.
You know, my tears,
like I didn't have no control,
no control whatsoever
because I understood.
It was like, I don't know,
it's like you take a big punch,
but the big one with the
brick concrete on your head saying,
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what the hell are you doing?
or did or how you live your life.
I mean, man, you,
my mother and father divorced.
I didn't have,
and I promised to myself to
take care of the family, you know,
all those vows that you have.
And I broke them completely, completely.
I lost it.
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I mean,
I lost it in a way because others
didn't think I lost it.
I knew I lost it.
I lost my family almost.
And I had to
start over to rebuild the family.
And it took me a while, took me a while,
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but I invest my time only,
only on the family.
I didn't even, and I said to my commanders,
I said,
I will not be anywhere now except
with my family.
And then I will balance
myself up only when I will
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see that everything is okay.
Not perfect, okay.
It took a while.
And, you know,
I didn't know about another
thing that was very, I mean,
I thought concrete,
depression and from smiling
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and joking to depression.
But big one.
Then I knew the stories and I found out,
I asked, I went to, you know,
like in operation,
I just made a research.
I did everything by myself, no help.
I drove, I visited friends, mothers,
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psychologists, psychiatrists.
And when I took Leo to psychologist,
the first time, after twenty minutes,
she went out and she called
me to the room, my wife.
when I was there, but you know,
we went in and she told us, you know,
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but she's, I think she's used to it,
but she told us, you know,
Leo tried to kill herself three times.
What?
What?
She tried to kill herself three times.
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I didn't know it.
I mean,
You know, Tara, today I'm more, yeah.
Even then, you know, I was an X-ray man.
I mean,
I was looking into people and I
understood, more or less,
I got the person,
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I understood the person.
But when you are hearing
this about your daughter, I mean,
the one that is really, I don't know,
I love both of them really, really,
but Lior,
She's, I don't know,
it's like a part of me.
And when I heard about this,
that she wanted to kill
herself and she did it.
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I mean, in three times, three times.
Yeah, I was in shock.
I mean, shock, it's a understatement,
let's say.
And again, I mean,
I think I had two months of crying,
but crying,
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It's not bad, by the way,
to show emotions.
I mean, it's good to show emotions,
not bad.
It's good to show emotions
because if you do it,
you show humanity and you
show that you are a person, not a robot.
Absolutely.
Wow.
But now I just, you know,
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this is the thing that will
lead not only your family, everybody.
I just, uh,
I invest all my time in New York.
I just went to study psychology, you know,
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on my free time, afternoons, you know,
and then the NLP,
I did the master and then the CBT,
just to make sure that I don't trust my,
you know, abilities.
my personal abilities.
I trust also the academy.
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I also trust the books and I
combine them together
because then you are a full, I feel it.
I'm a full person as a leader,
as a leader.
And yeah,
so I don't- What a powerful story, Ido.
I mean,
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Just to recap, you were, again,
serving in their elite
Israeli operations globally.
Sometimes you'd be gone for
weeks or months at a time,
and you didn't realize that
your youngest daughter, who was
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This is a message that every single parent,
regardless of where you are in the world,
regardless of your background,
needs to hear.
Because we never a hundred
percent know what's going
on with another individual,
but it's really important
because sometimes we don't
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see what's happening right in front of us,
closest to us.
Because, you know,
it's really easy for us as leaders to see,
you know, if a team member's off or,
you know, something like that,
something's going on.
But sometimes it's even
harder to see what's
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happening right under our
nose sometimes because I
think we're just so close.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But this is a part of, you know,
your work right now with
the mission within is to
really unravel this.
Um, you know,
we're talking about mental health,
we're talking about PTSD,
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we're talking about, you know, uh,
healing,
true healing and showing emotions
and vulnerability too.
vulnerability yeah and you
know I had a ptsd you're
talking yeah I also had you
know I also had this you
know just uh and it was
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also a big it's not as it
was a surprise for me for
me personally because I
thought that I'm protected
like a superman yeah yeah
superman I love superman I
mean I loved it you know I
like movies right so I love
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superman I mean not because
he's a hero just I love the
the story of superman and
just got good movie all the
time the version is
becoming better but I
thought I'm superman when I
did all those missions and
there were success I mean
and you do something that
even superman didn't think
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about you know sometimes it's funny but
It's serious.
I mean, you don't need to be a Superman.
You don't.
You don't need to be Superman.
You just need to be present.
You need to be emotionally there,
present with the people, with the person.
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So when I'm talking to managers, CEOs,
or I'm going to the army as well now.
And I'm not giving lectures.
I do, I do, but it's not a lecture.
I don't call it a lecture.
When I'm getting a call, let's say,
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I'm not saying that I'm
going to make a presentation.
I'm not going to say I'm
going to make a lecture.
I'm going to talk.
And I do it also for officers,
but not only.
I do it also for the
pre-military academies,
which is the most important
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thing for me because this
is the next generation,
which is very important for
me in all kinds of ways.
In this one, I just, you know,
and when I first did it,
when I first did it,
it was half a year ago, I think.
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Now I'm doing it almost
every week because they call me,
But they were listening.
And I thought, you know,
I'm eighteen years old.
I mean, I didn't know what to expect.
I know what I was in.
When I was eighteen years old, I didn't,
I just, you know, I did whatever,
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whatever was needed.
I didn't,
this generation is thinking they
have abilities that we didn't have.
You know,
we didn't have mobile phones like this.
You know, we didn't have anything, almost.
Yeah, but they think and they are really,
really good,
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but they need direction
because they are mission oriented,
which is good.
But before the mission oriented,
you need to be a person.
You need to be someone that is, you know,
you don't need to talk a lot,
just need to be present
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when you go into a room.
You don't need to say anything.
They feel you.
How?
They just do.
Because you have this power
that screens out and you
don't need to say a lot.
You just, if you have something to say,
say it because they will listen.
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And when I started talking
about this and also
reminding my PTSD session or episode,
I didn't think they would,
I thought they will ask me
directly about this mission,
about that mission, you know,
because it's something that
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will make people
interesting or they will be interested.
I thought they will not listen to this,
but they did.
And I think the last time I
was supposed to talk only
one hour discussion,
not talking discussion.
I always,
say turn the light on I
don't want to have lights
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off I want to look at you
and I want to look at the
people and when I talk to
you I want you to answer me
but I want you to look at
me because this is a
communication issue which
is very also I mean the
communication wow it's such
an important thing and I'm
explaining them that
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because I'm when I'm doing it
It's also because I do want
them to turn the light on,
but I also do it because I
want them to understand
that the direct connection,
the direct also attention,
not only the direct,
the attention that you give
to this person.
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And even if you make a
comment or he makes a comment,
and once the last time I
did something especially
wrong operationally,
Wrong.
I knew it because it's funny for me.
I did it on purpose.
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I wanted to see, after I was talking,
if someone would make a comment,
like a feedback.
And they did.
They did.
And they didn't understand
why I'm smiling and happy.
I mean, I was happy.
I said, good, good.
That's what I want.
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I want you to tell me that
I'm wrong and explain me why.
And this is also important.
And with the respect, not because of me,
respect, respect to each other, respect.
You talk, I'm listening.
And if I made a mistake, I will say to you,
I will say, I made a mistake.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
We will change it.
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No problem.
But at the end of it,
and I explained as well,
there is only one commander, one.
No two, not three, one.
So we have a discussion.
We can make a big one, shouting, whatever.
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At the end of this, at the end of this,
I gather everything
together to one thing and say, okay,
I decided, I listened to all of you.
I expect and I accept and I
got everything.
Now this is my decision.
And that's it.
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I didn't have to say a lot.
And I explained to the young generation.
Open up.
Tell exactly what you think exactly.
And go with it.
And you will see that the
other side will see it.
And they will feel it.
And they will open up.
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And I got also feedbacks.
I said half a year ago.
So I got feedbacks.
They joined the army already,
and most of them.
And they've been through hell.
Like this, going to a special unit,
you need to pass this.
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At least it started with one day.
And then if you're good,
you're going to the unit
that they pick you,
because they think that
this is oriented for you especially.
have another selection which
is three days and then if
you pass these three days
you have almost two years
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of just you know basically
only then you finish that's
why I said that two years
you're just preparing
yourself for the first
mission I love that I got
feedback thank you thank you I mean if
If you didn't talk to us, I mean,
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we would only just run fast, you know,
taking whatever they do
because each one goes to
the different unit.
But I had to run with boats, whatever.
But they said that when they
listened to me and I told them one story,
only one story about my selections.
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Wow.
That's so powerful.
That is so powerful.
And it's, you know,
one of the reasons that I
really enjoy hearing your story, too.
You have so many stories.
It's much too long to fit in
one podcast episode.
But I love how service oriented you are.
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And, you know,
you and I have talked
privately about God's
purpose for our individual lives.
and how powerful that is.
And, you know,
I believe that at the end of the day,
you know,
some of these past experiences
that we've had,
some of the pain that we've had,
if we can figure out how to
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turn that into a purpose to
help other people and to
serve other people,
and you're so service oriented anyway,
that's, I feel like, you know,
at the end of the day, that's,
any of our purpose is just
to give back to help others
and to share our story in a
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meaningful way that can
contribute to the
betterment of any individual out there.
But I love, you know, too,
that you're looking to
share this message on a really big stage.
You're looking to share this
with the world, right?
Yeah, I do.
I don't think it's, you know,
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another thing that I'm...
It's not a shame.
You didn't do anything wrong.
You are a human being,
which is the most important thing.
And yes, you know,
when I started after
learning this psychology,
and then when I went to the NLP, I was...
(36:48):
Wasn't listening too much, honestly.
I mean, I did it,
but many things I knew because NLP,
I mean, we'll talk about this later,
you know, nothing.
But NLP,
it's very similar to what you do
when you are abroad, let's say, okay?
(37:10):
So I didn't listen a lot,
but it opened my brain, my subconscious,
And when they, you know,
when we had lessons,
I just wrote the book.
I wrote a book in the lessons.
(37:32):
I just took the iPhone, just on the notes.
I wrote a book on the notes.
Because I have no idea how, you know,
really.
We've talked about the spiritual thing.
It's a spiritual,
hundred percent spiritual.
Because
I never thought that I would write a book.
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I mean, what?
No, really.
Superman, writing a book and the book,
I would say it's not about my missions.
It's not about that, really.
It's just about how to be
better as a human being.
(38:15):
How to be a leader, but not from the
power of the title or, you know,
push yourself to a career,
you will get it anyway, okay,
if you will do it within, right?
Because it's true.
Because it's true.
Because if you do it within,
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you need to think even
about your future because
it will come to you.
It will.
It will.
I promise it will come to you.
It's so powerful.
And this is something that I
talk about all the time as well.
And this is another synergy
that we have is that
leadership does not start outside of you.
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It starts within because in
order for us to lead a team of many,
we first have to learn
self-mastery and lead a team of one.
And that's with us.
So this is so powerful and so resonant.
Ido,
I don't think this is gonna be our
last podcast conversation.
I can already see you coming up.
(39:20):
I feel so, I feel you.
That's why I'm just, I hope not, but yeah,
it's- Powerful.
It's powerful.
Powerful.
Powerful.
Yes.
Spiritual.
Share it with you.
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It's a big thing for me, really.
Well,
it was an absolute pleasure
interviewing you today for
this episode of Grasp Confidence Podcast.
Guys, Ido is one of the top, seriously,
elite leaders online.
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In Israel, doing what he is doing.
And, you know, he's helping other people.
He's giving back.
He's helping veterans right now,
overcoming PTSD and
traumatic brain injury.
And he has a heart.
like I've never really seen before.
He wants to give back,
(40:21):
he wants to help other
people and he wants to use
his background and experience to do that.
So let's all support Ido in that mission.
because it is so powerful.
I'm a huge supporter of veterans,
regardless of if they're American or not.
I'm a huge supporter of our
Israeli veterans as well.
Ido,
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what are the best places to get a hold
of you?
I know you're active on LinkedIn.
Is that the best place for you?
Yeah.
I started with LinkedIn and I didn't know.
And then we met on LinkedIn.
I didn't know anything, really.
I just started because
someone helped me to...
I thought to connect with people, you know,
(41:02):
and I have a lot of friends,
colleagues around the world.
So,
because I've been to so many countries
and I wanted to find them.
So he said, okay, but there was a LinkedIn,
you know, it's an international,
it's not only, okay,
that's how I started.
And just, it became, I don't know, just,
but I'm there.
(41:22):
Yeah.
I'm there.
So follow and connect with
Ido on LinkedIn and
subscribe to his newsletter,
The Mission Within.
Guys,
thank you so much for being a part of
this episode of Grasp Confidence Podcast.
Please like, follow, subscribe,
and share this episode with
your audiences and leave a review.
(41:45):
Each review that is left
helps more people out there
see the value of tuning in.
And I read each one
personally and love them all.
I will see you guys on the next episode.
Take care.
Bye.
My next guest today has led
missions where every second
counts and every mistake
could cost a life.
But his most courageous mission,
healing from what no one saw.
Today's guest is a former
elite Israeli security
officer whose career
(00:46):
spanned covert operations,
crisis response and
international diplomacy.
But what happens after the
mission ends and the uniform comes off?
What is the emotional weight
that remains in this
powerful conversation?
Edo opens up about the
(01:07):
hidden toll of high
performance leadership,
the cost of
compartmentalization and the
slow intentional process of
reclaiming wholeness.
If you've ever led silently, breaking,
this episode is for you.
It's time to rewrite the
definition of courage from
(01:29):
battlefield to boardroom,
from survival to surrender.
This episode of Grasp
Confidence is for you.
Ido, welcome to the show.
Thank you, Tara.
Yes.
You know,
I saw people saying your introductions
Amazing.
It is amazing.
(01:49):
Too amazing.
It's all true.
It's all true.
Embarrassed a little bit, but yeah.
Yes.
So...
You're joining us today from
Israel and I'm, I think this, you know,
your background is so interesting.
I've never really
interviewed anybody from
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your background before.
You know,
we're talking about elite operations, um,
mission in like a really
high stakes environment and you know,
where every second counts,
where any like hesitation
moment could cost a life.
That's a lot of pressure.
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It is.
It is.
But, you know,
when you have those kind of missions,
you don't have time to think.
So you first prepare to the mission.
You are making all the
preparations needed.
(02:55):
You talk to your team.
You make them relax.
They know you already.
You pass with them.
Even before the first mission,
even before that,
we make such an introduction with us,
I mean, all of us from the heart inside.
(03:17):
That's what I was doing, at least,
because others have
different kind of ways.
But the purpose is that when we are there,
you know,
everything is not what you
planned or written or being ordered to.
(03:42):
It's a mess.
And then they need to trust you.
And if you are not trusting
yourself or even when you have fear,
when you have the fear,
you cannot show it.
So you have to
fear inside,
but the fear has two directions,
(04:03):
by the way, direction that frees you,
which is a very common thing.
And the second one is that
the direction that makes you focus.
And when it makes you focus, you also can,
you know,
you can screen it to the other people.
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And this is your team,
this is your family.
So
When you are using the fear
to be focused and to take
decisions without thinking,
without thinking about the consequences,
without thinking about anything.
You think about the moment
or the second you are in,
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if you can complete the
mission or if you cannot
complete the mission.
Let's say, ninety point nine percent,
let's say, we complete the mission.
but in different ways,
which can be also the last mission,
by the way,
(05:07):
the first can be the last as well.
But I, you know,
it's something within that when you do it,
you don't think about this at all.
You just think about, bring them home.
That's that, you know, they have families,
brothers, sisters,
mothers at the beginning,
(05:27):
and then they have wives and children.
So this is the first thing
that I put inside my heart, even,
not only in my mind.
And the second is the mission,
which is prioritized differently,
by the way, with others.
Because, you know, operators,
(05:48):
and I see it a lot,
they just see the tunnel
vision of the target, which is good,
yeah?
But also, but in a different way.
in a way that I will do
something maybe crazy, maybe crazy,
but they will follow me anyway,
(06:08):
because they know that if I
did it already,
because I'm not that crazy,
but I am if I need to.
So if I already do something crazy,
they will follow.
And they also don't care about that.
They didn't care about anything, just,
you know.
So yeah, it's a big,
it can be a big burden,
(06:31):
But I never thought about this, you know,
until maybe a few years ago,
but never thought about this.
Never.
Wow.
Well, it's, you know, I see this a lot,
you know,
in just my conversations with
executive leaders.
as well or high level
(06:51):
entrepreneurs high
performing leaders you know
sometimes people can get
stuck in analysis paralysis
and nothing happens right
you just overthink yourself
to death and there's a
point where I mean you need
to think you need to plan
you need to strategize but
at what point are you going
(07:11):
to execute at what point
are you just going to take action
And in your case,
there was no time sometimes
to think or plan or strategize.
You just had to go with an
instinct at a moment.
And what I like something
that you said that people
trusted you to make the right decision,
(07:34):
but trust.
It's an instant, right?
That has to be built over a
long period of time.
So if we're talking about leadership,
they had seen you
demonstrate trustworthy attitudes,
trustworthy executions on
things well before, you know,
this particular moment took
(07:55):
place so that they were
trusting of your abilities at that time.
That's huge.
Yeah, you know, leadership,
at least as I see it,
build on multiple things.
I mean, variety of values and character.
(08:19):
And you need to establish it
to one thing complete and go with it,
not to overthink.
and because as you said when
you're overthinking you got
you stuck you're stuck and
and if you're stuck nothing
happens and you will freeze
(08:41):
you will freeze uh you know
I was a child already when
I started to understand
that I you know I take
decisions most of the time
let's say you know of
course not it's not a hundred percent but
when it came to life or death decisions,
(09:04):
it was a hundred percent
because my people, I mean, my team,
my brothers, I call it my brothers,
but it sounds, you know,
I don't know what it sounds,
but this is my brothers.
And for me,
they were the first to take care of.
The rest, yes, it's the mission,
(09:26):
but the mission it's,
I heard a lot of ways.
I mean,
the mission comes next from my
point of view.
And I said also to my
commanders back there and
to my commanders during the
time that I was out of the Navy,
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and I always told them,
you need to trust me
because I usually went to
places when they were
broken most of the time.
I have many examples,
but when they send me
already to those places,
they knew that it's my way.
(10:08):
It's my way because my way showed success,
which I never meant.
I mean, I didn't think about the success.
And I think this is the point.
You don't need to think about success.
You don't need to think about, you know,
how we will go on and be the
(10:28):
chief of the chiefs.
No, no, no.
You just need to do your job,
take care of the people.
You have to build something
from the beginning,
so build it from the
beginning and from the
point that you asked about my people.
Yeah, I knew all of them, the family,
all the roots, who is sick,
(10:49):
who needs money, who have problems.
I mean, I knew everything.
before the mission before we
went out to the mission I
was asking in front of
everybody because this is
this is the way we opened
up and I explained them of
course before what I think
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and this is the way I do it
you know it's me or you can
choose but you know try and
when we went to missions anywhere
Not in Israel.
We can say it, you know,
according to foreign media.
(11:32):
We always say, I asked,
what is the problem with the, it's fixed,
not fixed.
I mean, what do we need to do?
Even if it's not fixed,
we will fix it later.
Okay.
But I need to know it
because then he told everything, you know,
mindset,
he told everything it's out of you.
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He took it out.
Even if it's not fixed,
I will fix it because I did.
I did.
I fixed.
But I said, okay, if we need,
we can write it down.
At the beginning, I said.
Later on, I didn't say anything.
They knew.
Let's write it down.
And then I will do this.
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I will use every power that I have.
And I have inside of me,
I have the energy to do anything.
for the people that I love.
So I did everything.
And from this form,
I knew that this is my way
to touch the people,
that they will not have to follow orders.
(12:36):
They will have to follow me, me.
Yeah.
That's the thing.
Well,
and it's because you took the time to
invest in them first.
You took the time to learn who they were,
what they were going through,
learn about them, their families.
Um, and that's really how trust is built.
(12:58):
Um, and then, you know, as a leader,
Once you've built that trust
over a period of time,
then when the next thing
comes and you ask them to trust you,
they already do.
And that's the powerful thing about it,
right?
But I want to take a little
segue here because there
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was a really powerful
mission that you had in your life.
It was one you never saw coming, right?
It was after the wars, after catastrophes,
after the mission was over.
And I follow your content on LinkedIn.
You recently started a newsletter,
(13:40):
which is growing rapidly.
People from all over the
world are subscribing to your newsletter.
They're sending you private
messages saying your
content is resonating with them.
And it's called The Mission Within.
So I want to talk a little
bit about this because
we're talking about, you know,
these global missions that you've been on,
(14:02):
these intense operations,
but there was a mission
within and there was a mission at home.
And I would love for you to
talk to the listeners today
a little bit about that.
Okay.
You know, when you started talking now,
I already felt emotions, which is good,
(14:23):
you know, because I think it's,
something that I want to
share and I need to I need
to because okay I was
protecting my my people all
the time it doesn't matter
if it's a team or multiple
teams or hate android
(14:43):
employees I mean agents
operators but what when you
are investing a lot I mean
everything I think
in this, you know,
and they are very important for you.
I told you it's a family,
but what is the real family?
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It's the wife, it's the children.
In my case,
it's my two daughters and I was
out a long time.
I mean, many times I've been, you know,
two days I said, I'm coming back.
I went and I came back after three weeks,
which is not, you know,
(15:27):
So I lost a lot of time.
And what I'm really doing
now is telling leaders, managers,
commanders, it doesn't matter who,
because people are driven by career,
(15:47):
by the titles,
but they don't think about
what they sacrifice.
And what is more important,
the prioritizing
It's a bit, you know, there is a big, uh,
uh, you know, it's,
it's a cloud that you have
to be very precise because
I lost almost my family.
(16:11):
Uh, well, it's harder because when I came,
uh, once, once I came home and, uh,
I didn't understand.
what happened because I saw my, you know,
my young daughter, she was, uh, nine,
(16:32):
twelve years old.
I mean, four years ago,
not a long time ago, by the way,
five years ago, almost.
And I saw that something is wrong.
Uh, it was the second year of corner.
So call me the twenty one,
five years ago and five, four,
(16:53):
It doesn't matter.
The matter is that I came
back and I saw that she's
in the room and I will add two days,
three days that I didn't do anything.
So I was at home and I love my,
I like home.
I love my family.
I like to be at home.
I love the private
(17:14):
environment because you are
always outside.
So you love to be.
In the moment of silence, you love it.
Actually, you need it.
You need it.
You need the family.
You need it.
And when I came, I didn't have anything.
I just had quiet,
but the quiet wasn't good.
(17:34):
It was bad because all of them,
but the younger one, Lior,
she was at her room, didn't go out,
didn't say hello, didn't talk.
She was like,
And she was the one, she's like, I mean,
(17:54):
I call her mini me.
She's really mini me.
I mean,
I would like you to meet her
because she's really funny.
She's really, you know, she's full of,
she was full of life.
Yeah, I mean, she didn't die, but almost.
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I understood that we have a problem,
but I didn't know how
serious this problem is.
I didn't know because I wasn't there.
I didn't know who's the friends,
who are the friends and who,
what is that?
And I'm used to,
I knew everything about my team,
my friends, my colleagues.
I knew everything.
I didn't know anything about my family,
(18:36):
which was a big, this is my failure,
actually.
One of the biggest ones.
I mean, if I think about,
failure this is the most uh
I mean I don't think it's
not important it's just the
most uh emotional and
(18:57):
breaking breaking and I was
broken by the way I was I
was as much as I was a
commander I was doing so
many things you know I I
didn't show emotion when I
did some you know but over there
I don't remember when I cried.
(19:17):
Also now I feel it, but I almost,
over there, I just started to cry.
You know, my tears,
like I didn't have no control,
no control whatsoever
because I understood.
It was like, I don't know,
it's like you take a big punch,
but the big one with the
brick concrete on your head saying,
(19:42):
what the hell are you doing?
or did or how you live your life.
I mean, man, you,
my mother and father divorced.
I didn't have,
and I promised to myself to
take care of the family, you know,
all those vows that you have.
And I broke them completely, completely.
I lost it.
(20:02):
I mean,
I lost it in a way because others
didn't think I lost it.
I knew I lost it.
I lost my family almost.
And I had to
start over to rebuild the family.
And it took me a while, took me a while,
(20:23):
but I invest my time only,
only on the family.
I didn't even, and I said to my commanders,
I said,
I will not be anywhere now except
with my family.
And then I will balance
myself up only when I will
(20:43):
see that everything is okay.
Not perfect, okay.
It took a while.
And, you know,
I didn't know about another
thing that was very, I mean,
I thought concrete,
depression and from smiling
(21:03):
and joking to depression.
But big one.
Then I knew the stories and I found out,
I asked, I went to, you know,
like in operation,
I just made a research.
I did everything by myself, no help.
I drove, I visited friends, mothers,
(21:26):
psychologists, psychiatrists.
And when I took Leo to psychologist,
the first time, after twenty minutes,
she went out and she called
me to the room, my wife.
when I was there, but you know,
we went in and she told us, you know,
(21:46):
but she's, I think she's used to it,
but she told us, you know,
Leo tried to kill herself three times.
What?
What?
She tried to kill herself three times.
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I didn't know it.
I mean,
You know, Tara, today I'm more, yeah.
Even then, you know, I was an X-ray man.
I mean,
I was looking into people and I
understood, more or less,
I got the person,
(22:26):
I understood the person.
But when you are hearing
this about your daughter, I mean,
the one that is really, I don't know,
I love both of them really, really,
but Lior,
She's, I don't know,
it's like a part of me.
And when I heard about this,
that she wanted to kill
herself and she did it.
(22:47):
I mean, in three times, three times.
Yeah, I was in shock.
I mean, shock, it's a understatement,
let's say.
And again, I mean,
I think I had two months of crying,
but crying,
(23:10):
It's not bad, by the way,
to show emotions.
I mean, it's good to show emotions,
not bad.
It's good to show emotions
because if you do it,
you show humanity and you
show that you are a person, not a robot.
Absolutely.
Wow.
But now I just, you know,
(23:31):
this is the thing that will
lead not only your family, everybody.
I just, uh,
I invest all my time in New York.
I just went to study psychology, you know,
(23:51):
on my free time, afternoons, you know,
and then the NLP,
I did the master and then the CBT,
just to make sure that I don't trust my,
you know, abilities.
my personal abilities.
I trust also the academy.
(24:11):
I also trust the books and I
combine them together
because then you are a full, I feel it.
I'm a full person as a leader,
as a leader.
And yeah,
so I don't- What a powerful story, Ido.
I mean,
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Just to recap, you were, again,
serving in their elite
Israeli operations globally.
Sometimes you'd be gone for
weeks or months at a time,
and you didn't realize that
your youngest daughter, who was
(25:01):
This is a message that every single parent,
regardless of where you are in the world,
regardless of your background,
needs to hear.
Because we never a hundred
percent know what's going
on with another individual,
but it's really important
because sometimes we don't
(25:23):
see what's happening right in front of us,
closest to us.
Because, you know,
it's really easy for us as leaders to see,
you know, if a team member's off or,
you know, something like that,
something's going on.
But sometimes it's even
harder to see what's
(25:43):
happening right under our
nose sometimes because I
think we're just so close.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But this is a part of, you know,
your work right now with
the mission within is to
really unravel this.
Um, you know,
we're talking about mental health,
we're talking about PTSD,
(26:05):
we're talking about, you know, uh,
healing,
true healing and showing emotions
and vulnerability too.
vulnerability yeah and you
know I had a ptsd you're
talking yeah I also had you
know I also had this you
know just uh and it was
(26:29):
also a big it's not as it
was a surprise for me for
me personally because I
thought that I'm protected
like a superman yeah yeah
superman I love superman I
mean I loved it you know I
like movies right so I love
(26:51):
superman I mean not because
he's a hero just I love the
the story of superman and
just got good movie all the
time the version is
becoming better but I
thought I'm superman when I
did all those missions and
there were success I mean
and you do something that
even superman didn't think
(27:12):
about you know sometimes it's funny but
It's serious.
I mean, you don't need to be a Superman.
You don't.
You don't need to be Superman.
You just need to be present.
You need to be emotionally there,
present with the people, with the person.
(27:35):
So when I'm talking to managers, CEOs,
or I'm going to the army as well now.
And I'm not giving lectures.
I do, I do, but it's not a lecture.
I don't call it a lecture.
When I'm getting a call, let's say,
(27:58):
I'm not saying that I'm
going to make a presentation.
I'm not going to say I'm
going to make a lecture.
I'm going to talk.
And I do it also for officers,
but not only.
I do it also for the
pre-military academies,
which is the most important
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thing for me because this
is the next generation,
which is very important for
me in all kinds of ways.
In this one, I just, you know,
and when I first did it,
when I first did it,
it was half a year ago, I think.
(28:40):
Now I'm doing it almost
every week because they call me,
But they were listening.
And I thought, you know,
I'm eighteen years old.
I mean, I didn't know what to expect.
I know what I was in.
When I was eighteen years old, I didn't,
I just, you know, I did whatever,
(29:01):
whatever was needed.
I didn't,
this generation is thinking they
have abilities that we didn't have.
You know,
we didn't have mobile phones like this.
You know, we didn't have anything, almost.
Yeah, but they think and they are really,
really good,
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but they need direction
because they are mission oriented,
which is good.
But before the mission oriented,
you need to be a person.
You need to be someone that is, you know,
you don't need to talk a lot,
just need to be present
(29:42):
when you go into a room.
You don't need to say anything.
They feel you.
How?
They just do.
Because you have this power
that screens out and you
don't need to say a lot.
You just, if you have something to say,
say it because they will listen.
(30:02):
And when I started talking
about this and also
reminding my PTSD session or episode,
I didn't think they would,
I thought they will ask me
directly about this mission,
about that mission, you know,
because it's something that
(30:22):
will make people
interesting or they will be interested.
I thought they will not listen to this,
but they did.
And I think the last time I
was supposed to talk only
one hour discussion,
not talking discussion.
I always,
say turn the light on I
don't want to have lights
(30:43):
off I want to look at you
and I want to look at the
people and when I talk to
you I want you to answer me
but I want you to look at
me because this is a
communication issue which
is very also I mean the
communication wow it's such
an important thing and I'm
explaining them that
(31:03):
because I'm when I'm doing it
It's also because I do want
them to turn the light on,
but I also do it because I
want them to understand
that the direct connection,
the direct also attention,
not only the direct,
the attention that you give
to this person.
(31:24):
And even if you make a
comment or he makes a comment,
and once the last time I
did something especially
wrong operationally,
Wrong.
I knew it because it's funny for me.
I did it on purpose.
(31:44):
I wanted to see, after I was talking,
if someone would make a comment,
like a feedback.
And they did.
They did.
And they didn't understand
why I'm smiling and happy.
I mean, I was happy.
I said, good, good.
That's what I want.
(32:05):
I want you to tell me that
I'm wrong and explain me why.
And this is also important.
And with the respect, not because of me,
respect, respect to each other, respect.
You talk, I'm listening.
And if I made a mistake, I will say to you,
I will say, I made a mistake.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
We will change it.
(32:25):
No problem.
But at the end of it,
and I explained as well,
there is only one commander, one.
No two, not three, one.
So we have a discussion.
We can make a big one, shouting, whatever.
(32:49):
At the end of this, at the end of this,
I gather everything
together to one thing and say, okay,
I decided, I listened to all of you.
I expect and I accept and I
got everything.
Now this is my decision.
And that's it.
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I didn't have to say a lot.
And I explained to the young generation.
Open up.
Tell exactly what you think exactly.
And go with it.
And you will see that the
other side will see it.
And they will feel it.
And they will open up.
(33:31):
And I got also feedbacks.
I said half a year ago.
So I got feedbacks.
They joined the army already,
and most of them.
And they've been through hell.
Like this, going to a special unit,
you need to pass this.
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At least it started with one day.
And then if you're good,
you're going to the unit
that they pick you,
because they think that
this is oriented for you especially.
have another selection which
is three days and then if
you pass these three days
you have almost two years
(34:13):
of just you know basically
only then you finish that's
why I said that two years
you're just preparing
yourself for the first
mission I love that I got
feedback thank you thank you I mean if
If you didn't talk to us, I mean,
(34:34):
we would only just run fast, you know,
taking whatever they do
because each one goes to
the different unit.
But I had to run with boats, whatever.
But they said that when they
listened to me and I told them one story,
only one story about my selections.
(34:58):
Wow.
That's so powerful.
That is so powerful.
And it's, you know,
one of the reasons that I
really enjoy hearing your story, too.
You have so many stories.
It's much too long to fit in
one podcast episode.
But I love how service oriented you are.
(35:22):
And, you know,
you and I have talked
privately about God's
purpose for our individual lives.
and how powerful that is.
And, you know,
I believe that at the end of the day,
you know,
some of these past experiences
that we've had,
some of the pain that we've had,
if we can figure out how to
(35:42):
turn that into a purpose to
help other people and to
serve other people,
and you're so service oriented anyway,
that's, I feel like, you know,
at the end of the day, that's,
any of our purpose is just
to give back to help others
and to share our story in a
(36:03):
meaningful way that can
contribute to the
betterment of any individual out there.
But I love, you know, too,
that you're looking to
share this message on a really big stage.
You're looking to share this
with the world, right?
Yeah, I do.
I don't think it's, you know,
(36:25):
another thing that I'm...
It's not a shame.
You didn't do anything wrong.
You are a human being,
which is the most important thing.
And yes, you know,
when I started after
learning this psychology,
and then when I went to the NLP, I was...
(36:48):
Wasn't listening too much, honestly.
I mean, I did it,
but many things I knew because NLP,
I mean, we'll talk about this later,
you know, nothing.
But NLP,
it's very similar to what you do
when you are abroad, let's say, okay?
(37:10):
So I didn't listen a lot,
but it opened my brain, my subconscious,
And when they, you know,
when we had lessons,
I just wrote the book.
I wrote a book in the lessons.
(37:32):
I just took the iPhone, just on the notes.
I wrote a book on the notes.
Because I have no idea how, you know,
really.
We've talked about the spiritual thing.
It's a spiritual,
hundred percent spiritual.
Because
I never thought that I would write a book.
(37:53):
I mean, what?
No, really.
Superman, writing a book and the book,
I would say it's not about my missions.
It's not about that, really.
It's just about how to be
better as a human being.
(38:15):
How to be a leader, but not from the
power of the title or, you know,
push yourself to a career,
you will get it anyway, okay,
if you will do it within, right?
Because it's true.
Because it's true.
Because if you do it within,
(38:35):
you need to think even
about your future because
it will come to you.
It will.
It will.
I promise it will come to you.
It's so powerful.
And this is something that I
talk about all the time as well.
And this is another synergy
that we have is that
leadership does not start outside of you.
(38:58):
It starts within because in
order for us to lead a team of many,
we first have to learn
self-mastery and lead a team of one.
And that's with us.
So this is so powerful and so resonant.
Ido,
I don't think this is gonna be our
last podcast conversation.
I can already see you coming up.
(39:20):
I feel so, I feel you.
That's why I'm just, I hope not, but yeah,
it's- Powerful.
It's powerful.
Powerful.
Powerful.
Yes.
Spiritual.
Share it with you.
(39:40):
It's a big thing for me, really.
Well,
it was an absolute pleasure
interviewing you today for
this episode of Grasp Confidence Podcast.
Guys, Ido is one of the top, seriously,
elite leaders online.
(40:00):
In Israel, doing what he is doing.
And, you know, he's helping other people.
He's giving back.
He's helping veterans right now,
overcoming PTSD and
traumatic brain injury.
And he has a heart.
like I've never really seen before.
He wants to give back,
(40:21):
he wants to help other
people and he wants to use
his background and experience to do that.
So let's all support Ido in that mission.
because it is so powerful.
I'm a huge supporter of veterans,
regardless of if they're American or not.
I'm a huge supporter of our
Israeli veterans as well.
Ido,
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what are the best places to get a hold
of you?
I know you're active on LinkedIn.
Is that the best place for you?
Yeah.
I started with LinkedIn and I didn't know.
And then we met on LinkedIn.
I didn't know anything, really.
I just started because
someone helped me to...
I thought to connect with people, you know,
(41:02):
and I have a lot of friends,
colleagues around the world.
So,
because I've been to so many countries
and I wanted to find them.
So he said, okay, but there was a LinkedIn,
you know, it's an international,
it's not only, okay,
that's how I started.
And just, it became, I don't know, just,
but I'm there.
(41:22):
Yeah.
I'm there.
So follow and connect with
Ido on LinkedIn and
subscribe to his newsletter,
The Mission Within.
Guys,
thank you so much for being a part of
this episode of Grasp Confidence Podcast.
Please like, follow, subscribe,
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(41:45):
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I will see you guys on the next episode.
Take care.
Bye.
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