June 19, 2025 • 35 mins
Stuck in Your Head? Here’s How to Break Free and Lead Boldly
Do you ever feel like you’re stuck in your own head—questioning your worth, second-guessing your next move, or waiting for permission to rise?
In this powerful episode of GRASP Confidence, host Tara LaFon Gooch sits down with transformational leader and international speaker Claudia Wyatt, also known as The Enthusiasm Ignitor and Self-Doubt Eraser. With over 20 years of experience in confidence coaching, cognitive behavioral tools, and purpose-driven leadership, Claudia shares how to silence the inner critic, follow your inner compass, and live with unstoppable confidence.
Together, they unpack:
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What’s really holding women back from walking in purpose
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How to conquer imposter syndrome and lead authentically
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Why belief in yourself is the first step to breakthrough
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Practical ways to build confidence rooted in identity and truth
Whether you’re an executive leader or someone who knows they’re called for more—this conversation will speak directly to your soul.
🌴 Ready to take this work deeper?
Tara’s upcoming Christian women’s retreat in Cabo (January 2026) is a luxury, spirit-led experience designed to help you realign, recharge, and step boldly into your divine calling. Spots are filling quickly, learn more here!
Episode Transcript
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Before we dive into today's
powerful conversation,
I want to share something
close to my heart.
This January,
I will be hosting a
transformational Christian
women's retreat in Cabo St.
Lucas,
Mexico called From Calling to Confidence.
It's a sacred space for
women of faith to rest, realign,
and rise into their
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God-given calling with clarity, boldness,
and community.
If you've been feeling that
nudge like God is calling you for hire,
but you're not sure how to
take the next step,
this retreat was made for you.
You'll be poured into by
powerful guest speakers,
enjoy luxurious five-star
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all-inclusive accommodations,
and even have the
opportunity to be featured on live TV.
Yes, really.
You can learn more at the
link in the show notes.
Now,
Speaking of rising into your purpose,
today's guest embodies what
it means to ignite
confidence and lead with authenticity.
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Claudia Wyatt,
known as the enthusiasm
igniter and self-doubt eraser,
is a powerhouse in confidence, leadership,
and has two decades of
experience in coaching.
She's here to help you
follow your inner compass,
own your story and walk in bold belief.
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Let's get into it.
Claudia, welcome to the show.
Thank you.
I'm so excited to be here.
This is my jam and anything
that I can do to light everybody up,
I'm in.
Yes, I love that.
So, you know,
I want to talk a little bit
about what you're doing these days.
You know, right before we went online,
you were mentioning your
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headed to Vegas, you're speaking on stages,
you're podcasting, you're coaching,
you're consulting,
you're stepping into your
confidence and clarity and
purpose with some boldness there.
So I love this story because
it's such a great example
for so many women.
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Tell us a little bit more
about what's going on in
Claudia's world right now.
Claudia likes to keep her
hands in many pies.
I have a lot of energy.
I'm known for my energy,
but I like exploring new things.
I like taking chances and
risks and diving into
something new because every
time I do that,
I discover a part of myself
I didn't know was there.
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And it's so cool to try
something that you didn't
even think was something
that was on your radar.
And all of a sudden it
becomes one of the best
things you've ever done or
it becomes your new favorite thing.
And you just learn so much about yourself.
And that's one of the things
that I've noticed in
multiple ways with myself
and with other people that
I've worked with.
We hold ourselves back
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because we think this is
what we are doing.
This is what we're supposed to do.
This is all this is it.
And then when we don't get
into that and go, oh,
there might be something else out there.
This is it.
This isn't it.
That's when we really discover who we are.
But when we hold ourselves back,
we're missing out.
And it's not just missing out as in,
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you know,
I should have been doing all
these things that other people are doing.
It's missing out on our own
purpose because there's so
much more to our journey
than what's right in front of us.
Wow.
Absolutely.
You're reading my mind.
It's so timely because so
many people right now are feeling stuck.
And I feel like people are
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waiting for the confidence to come.
And if I just get confident
enough or bold enough,
I'll take that next step.
But I feel like you're right on track.
The reality is,
is that confidence is the
byproduct of owning it, right?
It doesn't come by osmosis.
It doesn't come out of the
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air or the ether.
we have to step into the
things that scare us a
little bit and sometimes
get out of our comfort
zones and out of our own way.
What do you think about that?
Absolutely.
Nothing good happens in your comfort zone.
It's boring.
It's just fine.
It is what it is.
But that whole thing with
I'm going to wait and then
I'm going to get confidence,
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your confidence is already in you.
You just need to bring it out.
And if you explore and try new things,
regardless of the outcome,
regardless of judgment,
guilt or shame or whatever
you think that you've
created in this brain of
yours that's going to happen,
you are missing out on so
much more knowledge.
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Gratitude.
knowledge, learning new things.
It's all part of experience
and good or bad.
And so many things we miss
out on because if it's not
going to be perfect or it's
not going to be this, you know,
grand gesture,
then we're not going to do it.
Or, well, I could fall flat on my face.
So what?
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Do it.
Because at least then you'll go, okay,
I tried it, which is a win for you.
But what did you lose?
Yeah.
Wisdom that tells you
what you're meant for.
And it keeps you from
feeling stuck because
you're always jumping outside of the box.
Again, regardless of the outcome.
That's the problem is we get
so limited by this outcome
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of if it's not going to be perfect,
I'm not going to do it.
Does anyone really know what perfect is?
Because that's not real.
Perfectionism is a myth.
It's about growth.
That's the key.
Absolutely.
I heard somebody, I wish I could remember.
I never remember who said the quote,
you know, but he had the best quote.
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He said,
if you're not embarrassed by your
first launch,
like your first product or
whatever it is you put out,
then you launched too late.
you need to be a little embarrassed.
In retrospect,
as you look back and you say, oh my gosh,
I can't believe I did this.
But it's good because it meant you grow,
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you learn from it, right?
Absolutely.
I can say that about some of
the first videos I shot,
the first posts I put up.
I had no idea what I was
doing on social media in the beginning.
I was posting a lot of pictures of my dog.
I was like,
I don't know what's happening here.
But the more I started
letting my truth out,
my content became almost my
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public journal.
It was my own healing
journey by letting these things out.
And I was doing it for me.
And that's the key is you
shouldn't be doing it for other people.
You should be doing it,
whatever you're doing for yourself,
for whatever that means to you.
And as I started doing that,
I started healing my own heart.
I started healing my own brain.
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I started trying new things.
And that's when people
reached out to me and said,
That really meant something to me.
I've been there.
I felt like I was alone in this.
Our words, our stories, our mistakes,
other people can relate to them.
And it helps everyone then
get on this path because it
creates this momentum of
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confidence because people see you did it,
then I can do it too.
Oh, I love that.
You become someone's hero, right?
I'm always saying put on
your cape because we are
all heroes in our own right.
And we can rewrite our
comeback story anytime.
So put on your cape and be your own hero.
I love that.
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Well, you know,
there's a reason why
confidence is your thing
and why it's my thing.
It usually comes from a
place of adversity.
It comes from
lacking it at some point in
time in your life,
maybe something like that.
So I know you've got all of
these amazing things now,
and I couldn't be talking
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to a more confident, vivacious,
bold person.
And I love that,
but I would love for you to
take us back in time a
little bit when things were
a little different for you, Claudia.
Yeah, definitely.
The person that you see now
was missing for a long period of time.
I came out of the womb this way.
Like I grew up this way.
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I was a very, you know,
enthusiastic kid trying new
things and fearless.
And then, you know,
you get a little bit older
and you start to hear other
people in your head and you
start to doubt yourself a little bit.
And then you get caught up in this,
I need to be a certain way.
And then you get caught up
in people who aren't there
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for your best interest.
And they start stifling you
and you start allowing it
because you want to fit in or you want to,
you know, people please.
I mean, I was a people pleaser of all time,
like a master of it.
And then things started getting hard.
I got into two very toxic marriages.
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I had several deaths in my family.
I had this decade of dark
and I didn't know what to
do with it because I'd
never experienced that kind
of darkness before.
I was living in the shadow
and the more dark it got,
the smaller I became and
the more muted and the
vibrancy and the energy was gone.
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And at some point I
completely lost myself.
I would look in the mirror and go,
who are you?
What happened to you?
You used to be fun,
but I just didn't have
enough energy to fight it.
It was in there.
I just couldn't bring it out.
And the more I surrounded
myself in these toxic situations,
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the smaller and smaller I
got and the more withdrawn
until I barely could get off the couch.
I had enough energy every
day to get up and go to
work and take care of my dog and
you know,
take care of the things that I
needed to take care of.
I had bills to pay.
I had, you know, responsibilities.
I was able to do that,
but it was exhausting
pretending I was fine all day, every day,
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because I was so consumed
with shame and guilt of who
I was because I didn't know
that I was avoiding everything.
I was avoiding conversations.
I became the master of
deflection because I didn't
want anybody to ask about
me because I didn't want
anybody to know that
something was wrong with me.
But I didn't know what was wrong with me.
I just knew it didn't feel right.
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Wow.
One day I kind of snapped out of it.
And I was like,
I don't want to be here anymore.
I don't want to do this.
This isn't fun.
This isn't who I am.
I'm tired of being
controlled by this outcome.
I'm done.
And that was the spark.
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And then from there I was like, you know,
you got to figure this out.
Wow.
Wow.
That is so profound.
I relate to that so much.
And, you know,
it's these external things in our lives,
whether it's the people we
hang around with, whether it's school,
relationships, family, even,
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that compress you, right?
And they can take a really
big person with a lot of
energy and enthusiasm and confidence,
and slowly over time, what we allow
Right.
In our lives,
even if it's our own lack of
boundaries starts to diminish, right.
Our potential.
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I know.
Guilty on all counts.
Me too.
I like the way,
the fact that you use the word spark,
that's really, um, a special word for me.
I referenced it in my first book,
how to grasp confidence and
own your power.
You know,
a stick of dynamite doesn't need
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a forest fire to make it
usable and to cause a lot of, you know,
to make it live out its purpose, right?
Yeah.
It just needs a spark.
And I think human beings are the same way.
It doesn't necessarily mean
that we have to have a ton
of motivation like we think we do.
Sometimes it's just that
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little tiny spark within us that says,
you know what?
I want more.
And today I'm choosing myself.
What do you think about that?
I absolutely agree.
That's basically where it
started for me was that
spark led to a walk.
And it was one day getting
off the couch as opposed to
just staying there and going,
you know what?
I need to get outside.
And I took the walk and it was like,
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I had,
never walked before in my life.
It was like the skies open,
the sun was out, the birds were singing.
And as I was walking and being present,
because that's not where I was,
I wasn't present this whole time.
I was living in the dark in my own head,
rent free.
And I stopped and just
paused in that beauty and said, okay,
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if this is it,
we're going to choose to
not be in the darkness anymore.
And we're going to be in
this beautiful light.
then we need to make some serious changes.
We've got to break these patterns.
I always say patterns are
meant to be broken, not bent.
We cannot bend to our will.
We have to actually do the
work and get in it and get messy.
And I love that you said allow,
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because I am a big believer
in that in my coaching, especially,
and I speak about it as well.
I had to get real with what
I was allowing.
Because that's the thing is
these things were happening.
There were other people involved,
but I was allowing it.
And I didn't realize that it
was the people pleasing and
the zero boundaries because
I had none and not
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understanding who I was.
And I kept trying to be for other people,
which you can't do that.
You have got to take care of
yourself in order to take
care of other people.
And not everyone is meant to
be in your life or for long term.
Some people are there to
teach you a lesson and to move on.
Other people are there.
And you really realize when
you're going through
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something difficult like this,
who your real people are.
And that was something I had
to discover on my own.
So I was making these mistakes,
but I was ready to learn from it.
And it was hard.
I'm not going to tell you
the work was easy and, you know,
it was all sunshine and rainbows.
That's a lie.
It was very hard.
There was a lot of times
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there was tears and there
was frustration.
I remember answering some
questions from a big
believer in questions and I
was asking myself these
questions and I was like,
I don't do that.
And I walked away from it, put it down,
and I was outside and I was
doing something.
And I was like, I do do that.
That's me.
I do it.
And I didn't even realize I
do it because I'd gotten so
caught up in that pattern, that loop.
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I didn't even realize I was
self-sabotaging.
And then I said, okay, well,
now that we have awareness,
that's the other key.
First, you got to make the decision,
choose and do it.
And then you have to start
taking action steps.
Then I had to go, okay,
now we need to actually
start fixing some of these things,
but you can't fix things if
you don't know what they are.
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That's right.
Ooh, so much wisdom in that.
And that's, you know,
action is essential for
building confidence, right?
But sometimes it's not the first step.
Sometimes it's the ownership,
the acknowledgement, the responsibility,
right?
Because even if we take action,
but we lack ownership,
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then we could have wasted
energy and we could have a
lot of goals in a hundred
different directions and
delete ourselves.
So I think it's really
important to have that
ownership mentality first
and understanding what is blocking us,
even if it's ourselves.
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Boundaries are a huge thing.
I used to be the same
way as you extreme people pleaser,
zero boundaries.
Now I absolutely love boundaries.
Boundaries are my favorite thing, right?
And if somebody crosses your boundary,
even if it's a client, right,
which happens because we're
coaches and consultants,
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you have to put up your
boundaries and nobody,
here's the thing about boundaries.
Nobody respects your
boundaries until you respect them first.
You have to put up those boundaries.
And let me tell you,
it is so freeing when you do.
Am I preaching to the choir or what?
Yeah, you know, I've literally,
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once I realized that
boundaries were something
that were actually not only protecting me,
but they were protecting other people.
I was like,
why didn't you have these before?
Like, where didn't they exist?
There's a funny story that I
tell often when I'm talking
because my mom and I
I was like, I was the one,
like I'm the fixer in the family.
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And everyone calls me to do
the things because I can do the things.
And that was something that
was always getting in the
way of me doing anything else.
Because, you know, somebody said, jump.
I was right there.
And how can I do it?
And I remember one day I was
knee deep in work.
I had so many things going on,
deadlines and projects.
And my mom called and she said,
can you come over and hang my curtains?
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And I froze because this is
like in the beginning
stages of me doing the work.
And I was like, boundaries,
boundaries are just like in my head.
And you know, it's the outcome.
It's the fear of what I had
already thought was going
to happen if I said no.
So I got the courage and the
confidence and I stepped in and I said,
you know,
I really don't have time for
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that right now.
I'm in the middle of a few other things.
I said,
but if it's something that you need
help with,
I could schedule that for another time.
I could help you with that later.
And she stopped and she goes, that's okay,
I'll ask somebody else.
And I froze and I said, what?
You have other people that help you?
Who are these people?
Like I have a family,
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I have other people in my
family who could help,
but it was always me.
And it always continued to
be me because I always said
yes and dropped everything,
which took the help of
other people completely away from them.
It might've been something
they wanted to do or they had time to do.
And I just was like, OK,
I thought this was going to
turn into a huge argument.
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You know, me not being willing to help,
you know,
me being selfish or whatever
those old stories are that
I had told myself.
The outcome was like, no big deal.
I'll get somebody else.
And I was like, are you for real?
It really is that like eye opening.
You know, and yes,
and it's the hardest thing to do, I think,
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is to set a boundary.
But once you do,
there is absolutely no going back,
because that one experience,
you're so right on that
happens almost every single time.
And you know, if it doesn't happen,
let's say worst case scenario,
and somebody decides to, you know,
take a distance because
they're not using you anymore,
they can't receive your energy.
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Good.
Yes.
That's actually the best case scenario.
It acts as an automatic filter for you.
And trust me, whoever's listening to this,
who's struggling with
boundaries right now and people pleasing,
the best thing you can do
is put an automatic filter in.
I mean, your water,
your tap water has a filter, right?
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Yeah.
You drink it.
You want to do the exact
same thing in your life because again,
the people we let in,
dictate our future outcomes.
So if you love your future outcomes,
if you have these really
big goals and dreams,
the best thing you can do
is set your boundaries and
understand who's blocking your success,
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who's standing in the way.
And sometimes that's our own selves,
right?
Absolutely.
We definitely can get in our own way.
But I love that you said
that because I learned the
hard way on multiple times.
The people that were in my
life weren't meant to be
there and they were
completely gone when I needed them.
And that was the thing,
when you're the one who's
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always ready to help and
being the fixer and the people pleaser,
and you're there for them, there for them,
you attract a lot of narcissists,
which is really, really fun.
I didn't realize how many
were in the world until I
started doing the work and
realized I was completely
surrounded by them.
Like those were my people,
but they weren't my people.
And once you realize that
and you let them go,
You open up your world for
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the people who are meant to
be in your life.
You start attracting your people,
your community.
And I met so many people that I was like,
where have you been my whole life?
Well,
they couldn't get to me because there
was this wall of narcissism
around me because I was
stuck in people pleasing mode.
But once I let that go and I realized, wow,
a little reflection on
these relationships,
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they were never in it for me.
They were in it for them
because I could do things for them.
But when it got dark for me
and I did reach out for help,
they didn't know what to do
with me because I couldn't
be there for them.
That's powerful.
So you started off confident.
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The world got in the way.
The environment shifted.
Narcissism happened.
You were surrounded.
enveloped really by
narcissistic people and
then you started putting up
boundaries starting
ditching perfectionism and
relearning confidence
because it is a skill and
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then that shift happened
where it was a catalyst for
change I would love to know
a little bit about that
season of your life when
that shift happened and
when you started saying
know what I'm going to own
this I'm going to own
myself and my choices take
responsibility and step
boldly into my calling with
confidence I would love to
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hear a little bit of that
season you know that season
is probably the best season
of my entire life I call it
the yes to me season
because every single thing
that happened during that
time became the launch like
you said the catalyst of
where I am now and it started momentum
The more I did the work and
the more I started stepping into myself,
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the more I started meeting
people who also were either
doing the work or were
willing to help me go
further because they were
seeing something in me.
And that's kind of like I said,
with my writing,
I started putting that out
there and I was doing my healing.
Well, that turned into,
do you have a company?
Are you coaching?
And I was like, no, I don't do that.
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I have a day job.
Like I'm just talking,
I'm doing the work and this
is what's happening.
And that kept happening.
until it made my brain go, hmm,
I think there's something here.
And I started looking into
it and I launched a company
without even thinking about it,
talking about jumping into fear.
I literally just went to the
bank and went to the lawyer and said,
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let's go.
And I was like, ta-da,
we have a company today.
Like, this is what we're doing.
Now I had to backtrack on a
lot of things that I skipped, but still,
I just went for it.
I just said, yes,
people are asking me for help.
I need to figure out how to do this.
I know this is my purpose
because I love it.
There's such a fire in doing
what I'm doing with people.
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And getting my voice out
there again became more healing.
And someone had read
something that I had
written and reached out and said, hey,
I really like what you've got to say.
I would love it if you'd be on my podcast.
I was like, I don't know what that is,
but sure, I'll do it.
No idea yet again, jumping right in.
I didn't know how to do anything with it.
I didn't understand the tech.
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I did nothing, but I was like,
let's try it.
And I was on the show and I
was having so much fun
because clearly I'm a talker.
And someone reached out in
the audience and said,
I love your energy.
Would you do my show?
And that just became more
and more and more.
And that's podcasts are my love.
Like I love being on shows.
It's so much fun, which then made me go,
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know I haven't been on
stages since I was a kid I
was a big theater kid you
know music and dancing and
all the things performance
and I was like about time
we get back on one of these
stages isn't it and I was
at conference once with a
bunch of colleagues and
they were like why aren't
you on the stage this was
five years before I started
my own company and I was
just like never really
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occurred to me you know I
speak at events in the area
and you know I train and do
all these things but I
wasn't really thinking about
until I got on a stage.
And then I was like,
I remember what this is like.
It was like that inner child
who was doing all these
things and prancing around came back.
And so then I was like, well,
now I've got to run with this too.
So it's interesting what
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happens when you step outside that box.
The world starts to expand.
And then there's more things
that happen because you do
something and your energy
carries and you meet people
and then they have ideas
and then you have ideas and
then the ideas become
bigger and bigger and more things happen.
And there's more
opportunities that you
never even imagined.
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It got me in magazines.
It got me on awards.
It was just like all these
things just started happening for me.
It was my reward for making
it through the dark to the other side.
That's why I always say, you know, hey,
a lot of wisdom happens in the shadows,
but you have to make it
through in order to get here.
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Absolutely.
The roots grow in the dark, right?
And it's such a powerful thing.
I actually think we may be
separated at birth because
we have such similar stories, right?
I love it.
Yeah,
speaking on stage was my ultimate
biggest fear.
And
I remember, you know,
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when right before I took
the stage the first time,
I cried in the bathroom.
I did.
I was miserable, right?
But I did it anyway.
And I just jumped because I said,
if nothing changes, nothing changes.
And that's a mantra I repeat
in my head every single day.
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If nothing changes, nothing changes.
It causes me to pick up the
phone when I don't want to.
It causes me to post when I'm afraid.
It causes me to share my
story or start a podcast or write a book,
even when I'm unsure of
what the outcome is going to be.
Because guess what?
There's always uncertainty in life.
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You cannot plan for everything.
You just cannot.
And you just have to jump.
And when you feel the
compulsion,
when you feel that calling and especially,
you know,
you're getting the validation like, hi,
why aren't you on stage?
You should be on stage.
Then it's,
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it's validation that you should
probably listen to it
because other people are
acknowledging something
within you that you don't
even necessarily notice,
which is powerful, right?
yeah I I love that because
I've been there you know
classic over thinker like I
I'm a great coach because
I've had all the things I
still have some of those
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layers I'm like I can
relate to that been there
the first time that I got
on stage I was like I was
very excited and I was all
fired up and of course there was things
that I didn't anticipate being a problem.
I just thought it was gonna
go exactly the way that I
wanted it to go.
I practiced, I was ready.
I was like, okay.
I had my outfit on and my A game.
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And then there was problems.
And as I'm going along in my
speech and there's problems,
I paused in my head and said, screw it.
You're gonna have to just
figure this out because
this is not going the way
you had planned at all.
So just talk.
And I just literally shifted
right in that moment.
I started doing my own thing.
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And it was still in
alignment with what I was doing,
but it wasn't exactly the
way that I went.
You have got to be able to
think on your feet because
things are going to happen.
Challenges are going to happen.
And things that you haven't
expected because you
haven't experienced or
encountered before are going to happen.
Do not let it break you.
Because I could have frozen
completely in that moment.
I could have started balling
on stage and ran off or whatever.
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And I was like, no.
You earned being here.
You came here for a reason.
You will do it.
And boom, I shifted.
And it was funny because of course,
when I was done, I was like,
that was horrible.
That was the worst thing
that ever happened because
I went into that doom and gloom mode.
And this woman came up to me
after and she said,
the whole time I was watching you,
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I was thinking,
I don't know how anyone
could be that confident on stage.
And I was like,
literally I was dying inside,
but that's okay.
But thank you so much for
saying that to me.
And it just made me go,
perception in my head,
completely different
perception in their head.
But here's the thing.
I'm a real person.
I'm not a robot.
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So I'm going to make mistakes.
Things aren't going to go
the way that I want them to go.
This scenario that I've
created needs to go in the
trash because that's not real.
I just need to let it happen
and be present.
And it wasn't until the
playback came that I watched it.
Cause you have to watch your own film.
We're just like athletes.
And I was like,
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that was nothing like what
was going on in my head.
I go,
that was way better than I thought it
was.
I was like, this is horrible.
They're never going to ask
me to speak here again.
No, it was great.
And I was like, okay,
celebrate the win in two ways.
One, you celebrate the growth.
You figured it out.
You did it.
You know,
you stepped past the fear and you
did it anyway.
And two,
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there's growth in what you just
did because it was really good.
Can you get better?
Can you improve?
Always.
But don't let that take the
win of doing it away from you.
Because regardless of the outcome,
you did it.
You did it.
Absolutely.
And regardless of what happens,
it's something to be proud of.
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Anytime you step out in growth, right?
It's an opportunity to
discover something about
yourself that you didn't know existed,
that you weren't sure you
were capable of.
And none of us are born
knowing how to do things.
It just is experience.
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And sometimes you don't know
your calling until you try
a lot of things and fail a
couple of times.
Podcasting is an example of that.
Same with speaking for myself as well.
This is something I started two years ago.
And I thought, well,
it'd be a great thing to start.
Let's see how it goes.
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It quickly developed into a
passion and a real sense of purpose.
And the more people I interview,
the more it reignites that
spark within me, that fire of curiosity.
And it helps me keep going
and stay motivated,
even though it's a lot of work, right?
I treat my podcast like a business,
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as you should,
just like you should treat
your speaking career as a business.
But the more you do it, the more you try.
The more people you interview,
the better you become over time.
And eventually, it's a work of art.
I think, gosh,
I think it was Leonardo da
Vinci or Michelangelo.
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Somebody quote me.
Again,
I'm terrible referencing quotes and
people.
I just can't ever remember.
But it was either
Michelangelo or Leonardo da
Vinci who said,
if you knew how much work was put into it,
you would never...
call it art.
Yeah, I can relate to that.
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Wow.
Wow.
Think about that.
You would never call it art.
You would never call it
genius because it's so much
work and depth that goes
into these things to really, again,
step out of our comfort
zones and to become that
next best version of ourselves.
But the good news is it's possible, right?
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Yes.
Right here.
Living proof, right?
Both of us.
And it's so refreshing
because I love these real
authentic conversations.
Because so often, Claudia, you know,
we look at people who are
really confident.
And this is how I used to
perceive confident people.
I used to think that must be nice.
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I guess they were born with it.
Maybe that's something that
they are just lucky to have
and I just don't have.
But I think regardless of who we are,
again,
it only takes just that little spark.
And then the spark becomes a
wildfire if you nurture it
over time with the right conditions,
right?
Yes.
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I actually have a quote that
I wrote that says all it
takes is a spark for you to
realize you are the flame.
Because that's really what
it comes from is that inner you.
And once that starts moving,
it gets bolder and brighter
and bigger and
And then you realize it's you.
It's you all along.
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All along.
I love that.
So powerful.
Where can people find you online?
I know people are going to
want to check out Claudia.
Please check it out.
I love it.
It's fantastic.
My website's under claudiewyatt.com.
I'm on LinkedIn under
Claudia Wyatt and my
Claudia Wyatt coaching as well.
I have two different profiles there.
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Instagram, the Claudia Wyatt.
And Facebook is Claudia
Wyatt as well as the
Claudia Wyatt coaching.
So I'm all over the place.
And yes, definitely come check me out.
And if I can help in any way,
please let me know.
I love that.
And hire Claudia to speak at
your next event.
Yes, I promise to bring the energy.
That's what I do.
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I think it'd be fun if you
and I did a speech together,
but I don't know.
Could the world contain us?
I am not sure.
We might be a videographer's
worst nightmare.
I think it would be amazing.
And I think we should do it.
You put that out there now.
So that's happening.
We're doing it.
I don't know what it is,
but it's happening.
I'm all for it.
So that's great.
But we could, you know,
break the internet.
It could be possible.
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It could be possible.
Well, thank you so much, Claudia,
for being an amazing guest
on this episode of Grasp
Confidence Podcast.
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We will see you on the next episode.
Take care.
Before we dive into today's
powerful conversation,
I want to share something
close to my heart.
This January,
I will be hosting a
transformational Christian
women's retreat in Cabo St.
Lucas,
Mexico called From Calling to Confidence.
It's a sacred space for
women of faith to rest, realign,
and rise into their
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God-given calling with clarity, boldness,
and community.
If you've been feeling that
nudge like God is calling you for hire,
but you're not sure how to
take the next step,
this retreat was made for you.
You'll be poured into by
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enjoy luxurious five-star
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all-inclusive accommodations,
and even have the
opportunity to be featured on live TV.
Yes, really.
You can learn more at the
link in the show notes.
Now,
Speaking of rising into your purpose,
today's guest embodies what
it means to ignite
confidence and lead with authenticity.
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Claudia Wyatt,
known as the enthusiasm
igniter and self-doubt eraser,
is a powerhouse in confidence, leadership,
and has two decades of
experience in coaching.
She's here to help you
follow your inner compass,
own your story and walk in bold belief.
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Let's get into it.
Claudia, welcome to the show.
Thank you.
I'm so excited to be here.
This is my jam and anything
that I can do to light everybody up,
I'm in.
Yes, I love that.
So, you know,
I want to talk a little bit
about what you're doing these days.
You know, right before we went online,
you were mentioning your
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headed to Vegas, you're speaking on stages,
you're podcasting, you're coaching,
you're consulting,
you're stepping into your
confidence and clarity and
purpose with some boldness there.
So I love this story because
it's such a great example
for so many women.
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Tell us a little bit more
about what's going on in
Claudia's world right now.
Claudia likes to keep her
hands in many pies.
I have a lot of energy.
I'm known for my energy,
but I like exploring new things.
I like taking chances and
risks and diving into
something new because every
time I do that,
I discover a part of myself
I didn't know was there.
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And it's so cool to try
something that you didn't
even think was something
that was on your radar.
And all of a sudden it
becomes one of the best
things you've ever done or
it becomes your new favorite thing.
And you just learn so much about yourself.
And that's one of the things
that I've noticed in
multiple ways with myself
and with other people that
I've worked with.
We hold ourselves back
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because we think this is
what we are doing.
This is what we're supposed to do.
This is all this is it.
And then when we don't get
into that and go, oh,
there might be something else out there.
This is it.
This isn't it.
That's when we really discover who we are.
But when we hold ourselves back,
we're missing out.
And it's not just missing out as in,
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you know,
I should have been doing all
these things that other people are doing.
It's missing out on our own
purpose because there's so
much more to our journey
than what's right in front of us.
Wow.
Absolutely.
You're reading my mind.
It's so timely because so
many people right now are feeling stuck.
And I feel like people are
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waiting for the confidence to come.
And if I just get confident
enough or bold enough,
I'll take that next step.
But I feel like you're right on track.
The reality is,
is that confidence is the
byproduct of owning it, right?
It doesn't come by osmosis.
It doesn't come out of the
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air or the ether.
we have to step into the
things that scare us a
little bit and sometimes
get out of our comfort
zones and out of our own way.
What do you think about that?
Absolutely.
Nothing good happens in your comfort zone.
It's boring.
It's just fine.
It is what it is.
But that whole thing with
I'm going to wait and then
I'm going to get confidence,
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your confidence is already in you.
You just need to bring it out.
And if you explore and try new things,
regardless of the outcome,
regardless of judgment,
guilt or shame or whatever
you think that you've
created in this brain of
yours that's going to happen,
you are missing out on so
much more knowledge.
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Gratitude.
knowledge, learning new things.
It's all part of experience
and good or bad.
And so many things we miss
out on because if it's not
going to be perfect or it's
not going to be this, you know,
grand gesture,
then we're not going to do it.
Or, well, I could fall flat on my face.
So what?
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Do it.
Because at least then you'll go, okay,
I tried it, which is a win for you.
But what did you lose?
Yeah.
Wisdom that tells you
what you're meant for.
And it keeps you from
feeling stuck because
you're always jumping outside of the box.
Again, regardless of the outcome.
That's the problem is we get
so limited by this outcome
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of if it's not going to be perfect,
I'm not going to do it.
Does anyone really know what perfect is?
Because that's not real.
Perfectionism is a myth.
It's about growth.
That's the key.
Absolutely.
I heard somebody, I wish I could remember.
I never remember who said the quote,
you know, but he had the best quote.
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He said,
if you're not embarrassed by your
first launch,
like your first product or
whatever it is you put out,
then you launched too late.
you need to be a little embarrassed.
In retrospect,
as you look back and you say, oh my gosh,
I can't believe I did this.
But it's good because it meant you grow,
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you learn from it, right?
Absolutely.
I can say that about some of
the first videos I shot,
the first posts I put up.
I had no idea what I was
doing on social media in the beginning.
I was posting a lot of pictures of my dog.
I was like,
I don't know what's happening here.
But the more I started
letting my truth out,
my content became almost my
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public journal.
It was my own healing
journey by letting these things out.
And I was doing it for me.
And that's the key is you
shouldn't be doing it for other people.
You should be doing it,
whatever you're doing for yourself,
for whatever that means to you.
And as I started doing that,
I started healing my own heart.
I started healing my own brain.
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I started trying new things.
And that's when people
reached out to me and said,
That really meant something to me.
I've been there.
I felt like I was alone in this.
Our words, our stories, our mistakes,
other people can relate to them.
And it helps everyone then
get on this path because it
creates this momentum of
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confidence because people see you did it,
then I can do it too.
Oh, I love that.
You become someone's hero, right?
I'm always saying put on
your cape because we are
all heroes in our own right.
And we can rewrite our
comeback story anytime.
So put on your cape and be your own hero.
I love that.
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Well, you know,
there's a reason why
confidence is your thing
and why it's my thing.
It usually comes from a
place of adversity.
It comes from
lacking it at some point in
time in your life,
maybe something like that.
So I know you've got all of
these amazing things now,
and I couldn't be talking
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to a more confident, vivacious,
bold person.
And I love that,
but I would love for you to
take us back in time a
little bit when things were
a little different for you, Claudia.
Yeah, definitely.
The person that you see now
was missing for a long period of time.
I came out of the womb this way.
Like I grew up this way.
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I was a very, you know,
enthusiastic kid trying new
things and fearless.
And then, you know,
you get a little bit older
and you start to hear other
people in your head and you
start to doubt yourself a little bit.
And then you get caught up in this,
I need to be a certain way.
And then you get caught up
in people who aren't there
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for your best interest.
And they start stifling you
and you start allowing it
because you want to fit in or you want to,
you know, people please.
I mean, I was a people pleaser of all time,
like a master of it.
And then things started getting hard.
I got into two very toxic marriages.
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I had several deaths in my family.
I had this decade of dark
and I didn't know what to
do with it because I'd
never experienced that kind
of darkness before.
I was living in the shadow
and the more dark it got,
the smaller I became and
the more muted and the
vibrancy and the energy was gone.
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And at some point I
completely lost myself.
I would look in the mirror and go,
who are you?
What happened to you?
You used to be fun,
but I just didn't have
enough energy to fight it.
It was in there.
I just couldn't bring it out.
And the more I surrounded
myself in these toxic situations,
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the smaller and smaller I
got and the more withdrawn
until I barely could get off the couch.
I had enough energy every
day to get up and go to
work and take care of my dog and
you know,
take care of the things that I
needed to take care of.
I had bills to pay.
I had, you know, responsibilities.
I was able to do that,
but it was exhausting
pretending I was fine all day, every day,
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because I was so consumed
with shame and guilt of who
I was because I didn't know
that I was avoiding everything.
I was avoiding conversations.
I became the master of
deflection because I didn't
want anybody to ask about
me because I didn't want
anybody to know that
something was wrong with me.
But I didn't know what was wrong with me.
I just knew it didn't feel right.
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Wow.
One day I kind of snapped out of it.
And I was like,
I don't want to be here anymore.
I don't want to do this.
This isn't fun.
This isn't who I am.
I'm tired of being
controlled by this outcome.
I'm done.
And that was the spark.
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And then from there I was like, you know,
you got to figure this out.
Wow.
Wow.
That is so profound.
I relate to that so much.
And, you know,
it's these external things in our lives,
whether it's the people we
hang around with, whether it's school,
relationships, family, even,
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that compress you, right?
And they can take a really
big person with a lot of
energy and enthusiasm and confidence,
and slowly over time, what we allow
Right.
In our lives,
even if it's our own lack of
boundaries starts to diminish, right.
Our potential.
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I know.
Guilty on all counts.
Me too.
I like the way,
the fact that you use the word spark,
that's really, um, a special word for me.
I referenced it in my first book,
how to grasp confidence and
own your power.
You know,
a stick of dynamite doesn't need
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a forest fire to make it
usable and to cause a lot of, you know,
to make it live out its purpose, right?
Yeah.
It just needs a spark.
And I think human beings are the same way.
It doesn't necessarily mean
that we have to have a ton
of motivation like we think we do.
Sometimes it's just that
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little tiny spark within us that says,
you know what?
I want more.
And today I'm choosing myself.
What do you think about that?
I absolutely agree.
That's basically where it
started for me was that
spark led to a walk.
And it was one day getting
off the couch as opposed to
just staying there and going,
you know what?
I need to get outside.
And I took the walk and it was like,
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I had,
never walked before in my life.
It was like the skies open,
the sun was out, the birds were singing.
And as I was walking and being present,
because that's not where I was,
I wasn't present this whole time.
I was living in the dark in my own head,
rent free.
And I stopped and just
paused in that beauty and said, okay,
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if this is it,
we're going to choose to
not be in the darkness anymore.
And we're going to be in
this beautiful light.
then we need to make some serious changes.
We've got to break these patterns.
I always say patterns are
meant to be broken, not bent.
We cannot bend to our will.
We have to actually do the
work and get in it and get messy.
And I love that you said allow,
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because I am a big believer
in that in my coaching, especially,
and I speak about it as well.
I had to get real with what
I was allowing.
Because that's the thing is
these things were happening.
There were other people involved,
but I was allowing it.
And I didn't realize that it
was the people pleasing and
the zero boundaries because
I had none and not
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understanding who I was.
And I kept trying to be for other people,
which you can't do that.
You have got to take care of
yourself in order to take
care of other people.
And not everyone is meant to
be in your life or for long term.
Some people are there to
teach you a lesson and to move on.
Other people are there.
And you really realize when
you're going through
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something difficult like this,
who your real people are.
And that was something I had
to discover on my own.
So I was making these mistakes,
but I was ready to learn from it.
And it was hard.
I'm not going to tell you
the work was easy and, you know,
it was all sunshine and rainbows.
That's a lie.
It was very hard.
There was a lot of times
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there was tears and there
was frustration.
I remember answering some
questions from a big
believer in questions and I
was asking myself these
questions and I was like,
I don't do that.
And I walked away from it, put it down,
and I was outside and I was
doing something.
And I was like, I do do that.
That's me.
I do it.
And I didn't even realize I
do it because I'd gotten so
caught up in that pattern, that loop.
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I didn't even realize I was
self-sabotaging.
And then I said, okay, well,
now that we have awareness,
that's the other key.
First, you got to make the decision,
choose and do it.
And then you have to start
taking action steps.
Then I had to go, okay,
now we need to actually
start fixing some of these things,
but you can't fix things if
you don't know what they are.
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That's right.
Ooh, so much wisdom in that.
And that's, you know,
action is essential for
building confidence, right?
But sometimes it's not the first step.
Sometimes it's the ownership,
the acknowledgement, the responsibility,
right?
Because even if we take action,
but we lack ownership,
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then we could have wasted
energy and we could have a
lot of goals in a hundred
different directions and
delete ourselves.
So I think it's really
important to have that
ownership mentality first
and understanding what is blocking us,
even if it's ourselves.
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Boundaries are a huge thing.
I used to be the same
way as you extreme people pleaser,
zero boundaries.
Now I absolutely love boundaries.
Boundaries are my favorite thing, right?
And if somebody crosses your boundary,
even if it's a client, right,
which happens because we're
coaches and consultants,
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you have to put up your
boundaries and nobody,
here's the thing about boundaries.
Nobody respects your
boundaries until you respect them first.
You have to put up those boundaries.
And let me tell you,
it is so freeing when you do.
Am I preaching to the choir or what?
Yeah, you know, I've literally,
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once I realized that
boundaries were something
that were actually not only protecting me,
but they were protecting other people.
I was like,
why didn't you have these before?
Like, where didn't they exist?
There's a funny story that I
tell often when I'm talking
because my mom and I
I was like, I was the one,
like I'm the fixer in the family.
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And everyone calls me to do
the things because I can do the things.
And that was something that
was always getting in the
way of me doing anything else.
Because, you know, somebody said, jump.
I was right there.
And how can I do it?
And I remember one day I was
knee deep in work.
I had so many things going on,
deadlines and projects.
And my mom called and she said,
can you come over and hang my curtains?
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And I froze because this is
like in the beginning
stages of me doing the work.
And I was like, boundaries,
boundaries are just like in my head.
And you know, it's the outcome.
It's the fear of what I had
already thought was going
to happen if I said no.
So I got the courage and the
confidence and I stepped in and I said,
you know,
I really don't have time for
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that right now.
I'm in the middle of a few other things.
I said,
but if it's something that you need
help with,
I could schedule that for another time.
I could help you with that later.
And she stopped and she goes, that's okay,
I'll ask somebody else.
And I froze and I said, what?
You have other people that help you?
Who are these people?
Like I have a family,
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I have other people in my
family who could help,
but it was always me.
And it always continued to
be me because I always said
yes and dropped everything,
which took the help of
other people completely away from them.
It might've been something
they wanted to do or they had time to do.
And I just was like, OK,
I thought this was going to
turn into a huge argument.
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You know, me not being willing to help,
you know,
me being selfish or whatever
those old stories are that
I had told myself.
The outcome was like, no big deal.
I'll get somebody else.
And I was like, are you for real?
It really is that like eye opening.
You know, and yes,
and it's the hardest thing to do, I think,
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is to set a boundary.
But once you do,
there is absolutely no going back,
because that one experience,
you're so right on that
happens almost every single time.
And you know, if it doesn't happen,
let's say worst case scenario,
and somebody decides to, you know,
take a distance because
they're not using you anymore,
they can't receive your energy.
(18:58):
Good.
Yes.
That's actually the best case scenario.
It acts as an automatic filter for you.
And trust me, whoever's listening to this,
who's struggling with
boundaries right now and people pleasing,
the best thing you can do
is put an automatic filter in.
I mean, your water,
your tap water has a filter, right?
(19:18):
Yeah.
You drink it.
You want to do the exact
same thing in your life because again,
the people we let in,
dictate our future outcomes.
So if you love your future outcomes,
if you have these really
big goals and dreams,
the best thing you can do
is set your boundaries and
understand who's blocking your success,
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who's standing in the way.
And sometimes that's our own selves,
right?
Absolutely.
We definitely can get in our own way.
But I love that you said
that because I learned the
hard way on multiple times.
The people that were in my
life weren't meant to be
there and they were
completely gone when I needed them.
And that was the thing,
when you're the one who's
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always ready to help and
being the fixer and the people pleaser,
and you're there for them, there for them,
you attract a lot of narcissists,
which is really, really fun.
I didn't realize how many
were in the world until I
started doing the work and
realized I was completely
surrounded by them.
Like those were my people,
but they weren't my people.
And once you realize that
and you let them go,
You open up your world for
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the people who are meant to
be in your life.
You start attracting your people,
your community.
And I met so many people that I was like,
where have you been my whole life?
Well,
they couldn't get to me because there
was this wall of narcissism
around me because I was
stuck in people pleasing mode.
But once I let that go and I realized, wow,
a little reflection on
these relationships,
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they were never in it for me.
They were in it for them
because I could do things for them.
But when it got dark for me
and I did reach out for help,
they didn't know what to do
with me because I couldn't
be there for them.
That's powerful.
So you started off confident.
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The world got in the way.
The environment shifted.
Narcissism happened.
You were surrounded.
enveloped really by
narcissistic people and
then you started putting up
boundaries starting
ditching perfectionism and
relearning confidence
because it is a skill and
(21:23):
then that shift happened
where it was a catalyst for
change I would love to know
a little bit about that
season of your life when
that shift happened and
when you started saying
know what I'm going to own
this I'm going to own
myself and my choices take
responsibility and step
boldly into my calling with
confidence I would love to
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hear a little bit of that
season you know that season
is probably the best season
of my entire life I call it
the yes to me season
because every single thing
that happened during that
time became the launch like
you said the catalyst of
where I am now and it started momentum
The more I did the work and
the more I started stepping into myself,
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the more I started meeting
people who also were either
doing the work or were
willing to help me go
further because they were
seeing something in me.
And that's kind of like I said,
with my writing,
I started putting that out
there and I was doing my healing.
Well, that turned into,
do you have a company?
Are you coaching?
And I was like, no, I don't do that.
(22:25):
I have a day job.
Like I'm just talking,
I'm doing the work and this
is what's happening.
And that kept happening.
until it made my brain go, hmm,
I think there's something here.
And I started looking into
it and I launched a company
without even thinking about it,
talking about jumping into fear.
I literally just went to the
bank and went to the lawyer and said,
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let's go.
And I was like, ta-da,
we have a company today.
Like, this is what we're doing.
Now I had to backtrack on a
lot of things that I skipped, but still,
I just went for it.
I just said, yes,
people are asking me for help.
I need to figure out how to do this.
I know this is my purpose
because I love it.
There's such a fire in doing
what I'm doing with people.
(23:07):
And getting my voice out
there again became more healing.
And someone had read
something that I had
written and reached out and said, hey,
I really like what you've got to say.
I would love it if you'd be on my podcast.
I was like, I don't know what that is,
but sure, I'll do it.
No idea yet again, jumping right in.
I didn't know how to do anything with it.
I didn't understand the tech.
(23:27):
I did nothing, but I was like,
let's try it.
And I was on the show and I
was having so much fun
because clearly I'm a talker.
And someone reached out in
the audience and said,
I love your energy.
Would you do my show?
And that just became more
and more and more.
And that's podcasts are my love.
Like I love being on shows.
It's so much fun, which then made me go,
(23:48):
know I haven't been on
stages since I was a kid I
was a big theater kid you
know music and dancing and
all the things performance
and I was like about time
we get back on one of these
stages isn't it and I was
at conference once with a
bunch of colleagues and
they were like why aren't
you on the stage this was
five years before I started
my own company and I was
just like never really
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occurred to me you know I
speak at events in the area
and you know I train and do
all these things but I
wasn't really thinking about
until I got on a stage.
And then I was like,
I remember what this is like.
It was like that inner child
who was doing all these
things and prancing around came back.
And so then I was like, well,
now I've got to run with this too.
So it's interesting what
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happens when you step outside that box.
The world starts to expand.
And then there's more things
that happen because you do
something and your energy
carries and you meet people
and then they have ideas
and then you have ideas and
then the ideas become
bigger and bigger and more things happen.
And there's more
opportunities that you
never even imagined.
(24:50):
It got me in magazines.
It got me on awards.
It was just like all these
things just started happening for me.
It was my reward for making
it through the dark to the other side.
That's why I always say, you know, hey,
a lot of wisdom happens in the shadows,
but you have to make it
through in order to get here.
(25:13):
Absolutely.
The roots grow in the dark, right?
And it's such a powerful thing.
I actually think we may be
separated at birth because
we have such similar stories, right?
I love it.
Yeah,
speaking on stage was my ultimate
biggest fear.
And
I remember, you know,
(25:33):
when right before I took
the stage the first time,
I cried in the bathroom.
I did.
I was miserable, right?
But I did it anyway.
And I just jumped because I said,
if nothing changes, nothing changes.
And that's a mantra I repeat
in my head every single day.
(25:54):
If nothing changes, nothing changes.
It causes me to pick up the
phone when I don't want to.
It causes me to post when I'm afraid.
It causes me to share my
story or start a podcast or write a book,
even when I'm unsure of
what the outcome is going to be.
Because guess what?
There's always uncertainty in life.
(26:15):
You cannot plan for everything.
You just cannot.
And you just have to jump.
And when you feel the
compulsion,
when you feel that calling and especially,
you know,
you're getting the validation like, hi,
why aren't you on stage?
You should be on stage.
Then it's,
(26:36):
it's validation that you should
probably listen to it
because other people are
acknowledging something
within you that you don't
even necessarily notice,
which is powerful, right?
yeah I I love that because
I've been there you know
classic over thinker like I
I'm a great coach because
I've had all the things I
still have some of those
(26:56):
layers I'm like I can
relate to that been there
the first time that I got
on stage I was like I was
very excited and I was all
fired up and of course there was things
that I didn't anticipate being a problem.
I just thought it was gonna
go exactly the way that I
wanted it to go.
I practiced, I was ready.
I was like, okay.
I had my outfit on and my A game.
(27:19):
And then there was problems.
And as I'm going along in my
speech and there's problems,
I paused in my head and said, screw it.
You're gonna have to just
figure this out because
this is not going the way
you had planned at all.
So just talk.
And I just literally shifted
right in that moment.
I started doing my own thing.
(27:39):
And it was still in
alignment with what I was doing,
but it wasn't exactly the
way that I went.
You have got to be able to
think on your feet because
things are going to happen.
Challenges are going to happen.
And things that you haven't
expected because you
haven't experienced or
encountered before are going to happen.
Do not let it break you.
Because I could have frozen
completely in that moment.
I could have started balling
on stage and ran off or whatever.
(28:02):
And I was like, no.
You earned being here.
You came here for a reason.
You will do it.
And boom, I shifted.
And it was funny because of course,
when I was done, I was like,
that was horrible.
That was the worst thing
that ever happened because
I went into that doom and gloom mode.
And this woman came up to me
after and she said,
the whole time I was watching you,
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I was thinking,
I don't know how anyone
could be that confident on stage.
And I was like,
literally I was dying inside,
but that's okay.
But thank you so much for
saying that to me.
And it just made me go,
perception in my head,
completely different
perception in their head.
But here's the thing.
I'm a real person.
I'm not a robot.
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So I'm going to make mistakes.
Things aren't going to go
the way that I want them to go.
This scenario that I've
created needs to go in the
trash because that's not real.
I just need to let it happen
and be present.
And it wasn't until the
playback came that I watched it.
Cause you have to watch your own film.
We're just like athletes.
And I was like,
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that was nothing like what
was going on in my head.
I go,
that was way better than I thought it
was.
I was like, this is horrible.
They're never going to ask
me to speak here again.
No, it was great.
And I was like, okay,
celebrate the win in two ways.
One, you celebrate the growth.
You figured it out.
You did it.
You know,
you stepped past the fear and you
did it anyway.
And two,
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there's growth in what you just
did because it was really good.
Can you get better?
Can you improve?
Always.
But don't let that take the
win of doing it away from you.
Because regardless of the outcome,
you did it.
You did it.
Absolutely.
And regardless of what happens,
it's something to be proud of.
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Anytime you step out in growth, right?
It's an opportunity to
discover something about
yourself that you didn't know existed,
that you weren't sure you
were capable of.
And none of us are born
knowing how to do things.
It just is experience.
(30:08):
And sometimes you don't know
your calling until you try
a lot of things and fail a
couple of times.
Podcasting is an example of that.
Same with speaking for myself as well.
This is something I started two years ago.
And I thought, well,
it'd be a great thing to start.
Let's see how it goes.
(30:29):
It quickly developed into a
passion and a real sense of purpose.
And the more people I interview,
the more it reignites that
spark within me, that fire of curiosity.
And it helps me keep going
and stay motivated,
even though it's a lot of work, right?
I treat my podcast like a business,
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as you should,
just like you should treat
your speaking career as a business.
But the more you do it, the more you try.
The more people you interview,
the better you become over time.
And eventually, it's a work of art.
I think, gosh,
I think it was Leonardo da
Vinci or Michelangelo.
(31:12):
Somebody quote me.
Again,
I'm terrible referencing quotes and
people.
I just can't ever remember.
But it was either
Michelangelo or Leonardo da
Vinci who said,
if you knew how much work was put into it,
you would never...
call it art.
Yeah, I can relate to that.
(31:33):
Wow.
Wow.
Think about that.
You would never call it art.
You would never call it
genius because it's so much
work and depth that goes
into these things to really, again,
step out of our comfort
zones and to become that
next best version of ourselves.
But the good news is it's possible, right?
(31:55):
Yes.
Right here.
Living proof, right?
Both of us.
And it's so refreshing
because I love these real
authentic conversations.
Because so often, Claudia, you know,
we look at people who are
really confident.
And this is how I used to
perceive confident people.
I used to think that must be nice.
(32:18):
I guess they were born with it.
Maybe that's something that
they are just lucky to have
and I just don't have.
But I think regardless of who we are,
again,
it only takes just that little spark.
And then the spark becomes a
wildfire if you nurture it
over time with the right conditions,
right?
Yes.
(32:38):
I actually have a quote that
I wrote that says all it
takes is a spark for you to
realize you are the flame.
Because that's really what
it comes from is that inner you.
And once that starts moving,
it gets bolder and brighter
and bigger and
And then you realize it's you.
It's you all along.
(33:00):
All along.
I love that.
So powerful.
Where can people find you online?
I know people are going to
want to check out Claudia.
Please check it out.
I love it.
It's fantastic.
My website's under claudiewyatt.com.
I'm on LinkedIn under
Claudia Wyatt and my
Claudia Wyatt coaching as well.
I have two different profiles there.
(33:21):
Instagram, the Claudia Wyatt.
And Facebook is Claudia
Wyatt as well as the
Claudia Wyatt coaching.
So I'm all over the place.
And yes, definitely come check me out.
And if I can help in any way,
please let me know.
I love that.
And hire Claudia to speak at
your next event.
Yes, I promise to bring the energy.
That's what I do.
(33:42):
I think it'd be fun if you
and I did a speech together,
but I don't know.
Could the world contain us?
I am not sure.
We might be a videographer's
worst nightmare.
I think it would be amazing.
And I think we should do it.
You put that out there now.
So that's happening.
We're doing it.
I don't know what it is,
but it's happening.
I'm all for it.
So that's great.
But we could, you know,
break the internet.
It could be possible.
(34:03):
It could be possible.
Well, thank you so much, Claudia,
for being an amazing guest
on this episode of Grasp
Confidence Podcast.
Guys, if you liked this show,
if you saw the value,
if this helped you in any way, like,
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(34:23):
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their boldest calling.
We will see you on the next episode.
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