June 23, 2025 • 37 mins
What if everything you built—the title, the business, the success—left you feeling more empty than empowered?
Despite reaching the top of his game as the former CMO of Google Play, a 3x Silicon Valley startup executive, and a bestselling author, Patrick Mork faced the kind of internal collapse no resume could cover. Behind the accolades and ambition, he hit a breaking point that forced him to confront the deeper question so many high-achieving leaders quietly wrestle with:
"What if success isn’t the answer? What if I’ve been climbing the wrong mountain?"
In this powerful and deeply honest episode of GRASP Confidence, Patrick returns to the show for a second time—bringing with him a level of raw truth and soul-centered leadership we rarely hear in business conversations.
As the host of the brand-new podcast Mork Unfiltered (launching June 24), Patrick is no stranger to straight talk. But this conversation goes far beyond business strategy or entrepreneurial frameworks. It’s about identity, burnout, redemption—and ultimately, faith.
Patrick opens up about what it really looked like to lose himself, step away from the noise, and rebuild not just a career—but a calling. He shares how rediscovering his faith became the foundation for lasting resilience, and how clarity—not hustle—became the compass for everything that followed.
From the chaos of corporate life to the calm of spiritual alignment, Patrick’s story is a reminder that true confidence doesn’t come from performance—it comes from purpose.
If you're a high-performing entrepreneur, CEO, consultant, speaker, or author navigating your next chapter, this episode will meet you at the intersection of breakdown and breakthrough.
You’ll walk away with powerful insights on how to:
✅ Rebuild your confidence after failure, burnout, or loss
✅ Anchor your leadership in faith, values, and clarity
✅ Stop outsourcing your worth to titles, income, or public approval
✅ Embrace resilient leadership grounded in purpose—not perfection
✅ Lead with conviction and courage—even when the path feels uncertain
Whether you're scaling a business or re-centering your life, Patrick offers a roadmap to becoming truly unstoppable from the inside out.
You don’t need another tactic.
You need truth, alignment, and a renewed sense of why.
And this conversation delivers all three.
🎧 Listen now and rediscover what it means to lead with purpose, live with conviction, and build unshakable confidence rooted in faith and resilience.
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Back by popular demand,
I'm thrilled to welcome
Patrick Mork to the show
for a second time.
A bold voice in the world of
entrepreneurship,
Patrick is an ex-Google executive,
three-time Silicon Valley CMO,
high-demand keynote speaker,
best-selling author,
and the powerhouse behind Mork Unfiltered,
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his new podcast launching tomorrow,
June twenty-fourth.
In this episode,
we will go deep into
strategy and resilience.
Patrick shares how faith
will be the bedrock of his
resilience through his
journey in entrepreneurship
and how discovering the
spiritual anchor
transformed the way he leads, lives,
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and makes an impact.
If you're a high authority entrepreneur,
consultant or thought
leader looking to lead with
both conviction and authority,
this conversation is a must.
Patrick doesn't hold back.
He brings the truth,
the heart and the mindset
needed for lasting transformation.
Get ready to be inspired,
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challenged and re-centered.
as we discuss the reason
people don't finish and why
they lack resilience.
Patrick, welcome to the show.
Hey, it's great to see you, Tara.
Always happy to be on the show.
I love it.
Well,
before we hop on to this conversation,
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you and I backstage had a
brief intro to some amazing
work you're doing right now.
You are really leaning into
your speaking career, going full force.
I love that because the
industry of speaking is one
of the most challenging
career paths to take.
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Part of the reason is because
Keynotes are often booked months out.
So you have to be really,
really prepared and really
resilient in the face of
rejection for this industry.
It's not for the faint of heart, Patrick.
Yeah, it's certainly not.
But you know, Tara,
my coach once told me
something that stuck with me.
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She's like,
you always take the most
difficult road possible.
And, you know,
I don't it's not like I do
it intentionally.
Life is kind of like, you know,
after eleven countries and
thirty three moves and six startups,
you would think that I
would have enough gray hair
by now to have learned to
try and take it a little bit more easy.
But but, you know, life is just more,
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you know,
I always tell people life begins
at the edge of your comfort zone.
And and, you know.
When we do hard things and
when we push ourselves,
life is more exciting.
It's more interesting.
We learn more.
We achieve more.
And more importantly, for me,
we inspire others.
And the world needs inspiration today.
I couldn't agree anymore.
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Oh, my gosh, that is so powerful.
But, you know,
we talked a little bit about
and you and I are both
seasoned entrepreneurs.
We talked about, you know,
that fear holds a lot of
people back from just
taking that first step, that leap.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But then once you're kind of
in it for a while, you know,
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what really holds people back?
It's not necessarily the fear anymore.
Sometimes it's what is it?
You know,
the analogy that I love to use is
thinking about racing, right?
Whether you're swimming or
sprinting or you're trying
to do something very hard,
fear is this kind of like
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primordial human emotion,
which we all have.
It's very normal, right?
It's this like fight or
flight kind of thing.
We know that we need to get
out of a bad relationship,
but we don't know what's on
the other side.
We know that we need to get
out of a toxic job or we
have a toxic manager.
We need to make a change, but we can't.
And so that is kind of like
what holds the majority of
people back from trying.
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The problem is not trying.
The problem is once we take
that initial first step,
how do we take the second step,
the third step, the fourth step,
the fifth step, the thousandth step,
right?
If you look at people like Thomas Edison,
right?
I think Edison tried one
thousand different versions
of the light bulb before he
actually got one that would work.
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They tried all these
different filaments and
they tried all these –
there were all these
different permutations of
the commercial light bulb
until they got it to work.
You look at J.K.
Rowling with Harry Potter.
She spent five years on food stamps,
basically broke writing these books.
She finally finishes it.
She goes out and she talks
to twelve different publishers.
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Twelfth.
before finally getting a book deal.
You look at Colonel Sanders
for those KFC fried chicken
lovers out there,
a thousand innate recipes, right?
So when I look at the world today, my fear,
Tara,
is we live in a world which is so
focused on the now,
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so focused on this
twenty-four-seven culture
that you can get things immediately,
right?
You get things delivered to
your door immediately,
get food immediately,
get clothes immediately,
get everything immediately.
that we have forgotten that
the way to success,
whether it's financial or
relationship success or
health or anything else, it takes time.
It's a perseverance game.
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It's a persistence game.
And so what I always tell
people is that if you want
to become really unstoppable,
You need to be able to go the distance.
You need to build resilience.
You need to be able to get
back up when you get knocked down,
not just once or twice or ten times,
but you need to be able to
build that muscle.
And it's a muscle.
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It's like going to the gym.
People always tell me, dude,
how is it possible that you
are so fit and so ripped
and so high energy at your age?
And I tell people, I'm like, look,
I'm in the gym six days a week.
You know, I work out, you know,
twice a day, six days a week, right?
And it's not a coincidence
because I actively manage
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my energy level.
And I know that to manage my energy level,
I need to have certain rituals.
I need to do certain things.
And I need to take care of myself.
So, you know,
to become unstoppable means
to develop our resilience.
And there are many different
ways of doing this.
And, you know,
in the keynotes that I'm doing now,
I talk about five key
pillars that help you
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become more unstoppable.
Well, I'm just waiting for somebody to say,
Tara, how did you get so ripped and fit?
Anybody who's listening, right?
Throw me a bone.
I would love that.
It would make my day.
Hey, you look great.
You look great.
But I'm thinking about this
becoming unstoppable.
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Yeah.
You know,
I think you're really onto
something with this because
I look at just the culture of today.
Yeah.
all about instant gratification.
It's a bell, it's a whistle,
it's something shiny.
And none of it's long
lasting or sustainable.
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And we're constantly in this
culture of comparison, again,
instant gratification.
And
you know, this instant success.
We hear all of these stories
and it makes us as entrepreneurs think,
oh,
I need to go and try that turn or this
turn or that way.
And then we get diverted
from our actual purpose and
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I think part of becoming unstoppable,
kind of like how you linked
it to exercise,
is literally just the consistency.
Absolutely.
It's the daily grind.
It's not the sexy thing.
Nope.
Right?
The sexy thing sounds like, oh,
I'm just going to get
instant success here.
Yeah.
But really, what is sustainable success,
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something that nobody can
take away from you,
is your consistent daily habits.
And that actually builds
resilience over time.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
You know,
it's like there's a wonderful saying,
which I absolutely love,
which is we get praised in
public for what we do in private.
And that is so true, right?
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If you look at anybody who
is successful in anything, you know,
the route to mastery is a
ten-year journey.
There are no shortcuts.
And we live in a society
today where it's like,
look at our foreign policy, right?
It's a great example.
We go out and we bomb Iran.
That is short-term thinking
for a short-term win.
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That is not long-lasting,
intelligent foreign policy.
It's very easy for us to try
and find a quick fix by
doing things in that fashion.
But is this going to produce
sustainable change in the Middle East?
Is it going to produce the
kind of regime that we want
to see in Iran?
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It's a symptom of a much
bigger problem that we have
in society today.
You look at Wall Street.
All the companies are
measured on quarterly earnings, right?
If you talk to the average executive,
especially a mid-level
executive working in a
publicly listed company,
that is one of the biggest challenges,
one of the biggest
pressures of working in
corporate America today is
everything is so short-term focused.
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People don't even have room
to think long-term.
I talk with entrepreneurs
and I coach entrepreneurs
all over the world,
and they all struggle from the same thing,
which is I can't even find
space to think
strategically about my business.
I can't even find a window
in my week to think about next quarter,
let alone next year.
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And so that's really the
challenge is that we need
to find a way to slow down
and actually to kind of
like what I call time box thinking time.
If you look at some of the
most successful management
books out there,
one of the things that you
read is that some of the
very successful people,
they will literally box out
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times on their calendar two
or three times a week for thinking time.
Like they're actually going to sit down,
they're going to write on
Notion or Google Docs or in
your notepad or whatever.
What's one of the biggest
problems I have in my business right now?
biggest problem is lack of
revenue my biggest problem
is customers constantly
turning my biggest problem
is I have too many offers
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whatever it is and then
they're going to spend an
hour processing and
thinking through that right
and now of course with
artificial intelligence you
can build custom gpts I
have multiple customer gpts
that I've built to help me
actually have a sparring
partner to think through these things
Right.
So I built like just for fun,
I built a Tony Robbins GPT.
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Right.
I took all six of his books.
I uploaded it.
I said, you are Tony Robbins.
You're going to coach me
like Tony Robbins.
You're going to get in front of my face.
You're going to challenge me.
You're going to use all the
Tony Robbins tools and you
are going to help me think
through my business issues
as if it was a business coach.
And so I will find once or
twice a week where I'll sit
down with my Tony Robbins
GPT and I'll say, Tony,
here's the problem I'm having.
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Walk me through this.
What am I not seeing?
What are my options?
How do I pick the best option, right?
But I constantly am like
thinking about stuff and
I'm finding the time in my
day to think through it
because I know that
long-term it makes better decisions.
Like we're so focused on
taking action constantly
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that there's no time to
think about the long-term.
And so these actions,
because we're very achievement oriented,
And then we achieve the wrong things.
And then we have to go back
and undo things and start all over again.
Oh, my gosh.
A smart way to work.
So right on.
Oh, my gosh.
You know, when you're in that busy, busy,
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busy mindset.
Yeah.
We it's masked.
You know,
we think it's productive and it's
masked as productivity,
but actually it's distracting.
I kind of liken it to being
a mouse in a field.
You can only see what's
right in front of you,
but you can't see anything else.
So I like what you said about, you know,
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taking yourself out of the
picture for just a moment,
getting some clarity thinking.
I think it was Brian Tracy
who said during a keynote
speech once to go into the silence,
go into the silence,
sit with your thoughts for
thirty to sixty minutes
every single day and watch
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as the deep thinking occurs,
watches your survival brain stops.
Because that's the mouse in
the field you only see
right in front of you.
Then you go to that higher
level thinking plane where
you can actually see all around you,
know your next move before you even do it,
and see all of the
different components of it.
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That's powerful.
Absolutely.
I think we all need to practice that more.
We do.
We do, for sure.
That's a big part of it.
I wrote a post on this years
ago after leaving Google.
Slow down to speed up.
Yeah.
It was all about, you know,
because in tech particularly,
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you know,
we have this fascination with going fast,
right?
And it's like, oh my God, you know,
competitors are moving faster.
They're innovating more quickly.
We have this fascination with going fast,
which I understand.
But sometimes, you know,
we move so fast that we
make what you would look at
in hindsight is very obvious mistakes,
right?
And so when we slow down,
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we actually give ourselves
more time to think through
these things and we do a
better job because we
thought through the implications.
Like, you know, I have made, I guess,
you know, now as I got older,
I don't make spot decisions anymore.
I think the other thing in our culture,
which is really interesting,
is we have forgotten how to say no.
We want to say yes to
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everybody all the time
because we're in this
culture of pleasing people
and getting likes.
When I work with executive
leaders on Wall Street or
private companies,
one of the things I first
do is I do a saboteur assessment,
the PQ saboteur assessment,
which is online.
It's free.
Anybody can do it.
And the thing that we find first is like,
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what are their saboteurs?
And many of them have this saboteur,
which is called the pleaser.
Yeah.
And the pleaser is all about
being liked and being nice
to people and pleasing people.
And unfortunately,
when you're leading a
company or you're leading a
team or you're leading any
kind of organization,
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that is not your mandate.
Leadership is not about pleasing.
It is not about being liked.
It is not about being popular.
It is about making decisions
and making good decisions
and then influencing people
towards the pursuit of a common goal.
And so when we take more time,
I think better things happen.
But it's very challenging to
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get people to shift their mindset.
It's very challenging.
And being able to shift your
mindset is actually one of
the five pillars of
resilience that I talk
about in my keynote.
you have to be able to shift
your mindset yeah tell us
about what are the five
pillars I think this is
really important because I
want people to walk away
who are listening to this
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with with you know writing
things down so if you guys
are listening go ahead and
grab a pen and paper write
this down let's talk about
resilience in these five
pillars patrick what what are they
So, you know,
if we want to actually achieve our goals,
we have to be resilient
because resilience is all
about our ability,
not just to bounce back,
but to bounce back stronger, smarter,
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faster, right?
And more capable, right?
So every time we get knocked down,
that's an opportunity to
learn something and emerge stronger,
right?
So your first pillar
is really about understanding purpose.
What is my purpose in life?
What is my purpose at work?
What is the reason I'm on this planet?
Now,
it sounds like a very philosophical
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question, but it isn't.
Your purpose can be something as simple as,
my purpose is to make
enough money to be able to
make sure that my kids can
afford a good college.
That could be your purpose of life.
Your purpose could be around
educating your children to
make sure that they're successful.
Your purpose could be around
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uncovering the cure to
cancer or developing the
next technology to help
people find a more
interesting and fulfilling
and engaging career.
There was a very famous boxing match
I don't remember who it was.
It was Evander Holyfield or somebody else.
They were fighting against Mike Tyson,
right?
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And they're like,
I think the guy comes out
in the first round.
And in the first round,
he gets knocked down by Tyson.
He just gets decked.
And everybody's like, he's done, right?
It's over.
He's not getting back up.
And the guy gets back up,
to everybody's surprise.
And he gets knocked down
several more times.
And he goes through ten rounds of this.
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and gets through it and I
think finally wins by like
a tko or something I don't
remember but he ends up
winning he was like one of
the first people or the
first person ever to defeat
mike tyson and when they
asked him afterwards why he
was able to do it they're
like what was in your mind
to help you get up each
time he's like my mama had
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died the day before wow the the the match
And I had promised her that
I would become world champion, right?
That is somebody who is
motivated by a greater sense of purpose.
So we were able to tap into
our purpose very deeply, right?
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And purpose is, you know,
when I define purpose,
what I mean for people in the audience,
if people are asking, what's purpose?
Like, what does that mean?
You know that you're working
with purpose when you have
four things that align.
First,
you are doing something
which you're passionate about.
But it doesn't end there
because most people think, oh,
you got to do what you're
passionate about, like follow my passion.
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Passion is a start, but it's not enough,
okay?
The second thing is do
something that the world needs.
A lot of people end up
failing or they run out of energy.
They have no more tank, you know,
and they have no more gas
in the fuel tank because
they run out of energy.
And the reason they're
running out of energy is
because they're not doing
something that really makes
a difference to the world.
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right?
Like one of the reasons I
left Google was I was not
really inspired by getting
more people to download
more apps and games from the Play Store.
It's like, who cares?
Is that going to make the
world a better place?
Not really.
Is it going to help people?
It depends on what they're downloading.
But I was not inspired by
what I was doing.
I wasn't inspired by
building an app store anymore, right?
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So find something that the
world really needs.
Third
find something that you're
really good at because like
I could be passionate about
playing the violin, Tara,
but you don't want to hear
me play the violin and
nobody is going to pay me
to play the violin.
All right,
so you gotta be good at what
you're doing.
And finally, of course,
if you can't pay rent at
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the end of the day, it's all for none,
unless you're rich or you
live on an island where you
have no cost of living.
All of us need to make a living.
So when you find that the
intersection of those four things, right,
what I'm passionate about,
what the world needs,
what I'm really good at
doing and what I could get paid for doing,
the intersection of that is your purpose.
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Right.
So that's the first pillar.
The second pillar is do hard things like,
oh, my God, so many people are so scared.
They're like, oh, that's so hard.
Oh, my God.
Going to the gym five days a
week is so hard.
Oh, running a marathon is so hard.
Oh, changing careers is so hard.
Oh, leaving my toxic boyfriend is so hard.
Dude, get over it.
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Right.
The most fulfilling things
that you will do in your life are hard.
That's why they're fulfilling, right?
If you look at people who
are successful in any area of their lives,
whether it's as a doctor, as a parent,
as a marathon runner, as a surgeon,
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as a police officer,
those people work
incredibly hard and they do hard things.
Right.
Third thing is ask for help.
Oh, my God.
Like the number of people
who are like they have this
like Gary Vaynerchuk mentality of like,
oh,
I'm just going to I'm just going to
grind through it on my own.
Right.
Guys,
especially I'm going to retreat to my
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man cave and figure this out.
That is not intelligent.
That is not how you solve
the most intractable problems.
The most intractable
problems are solved by a team.
If you're a solo entrepreneur.
And you're like, dude, I have no mentor.
Then I would say, dude, get an advisor.
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Get a coach.
Talk to other entrepreneurs.
Sign up for a men's group if you're a guy.
Sign up for a women's group
if you're a woman.
Anything that I ever
achieved of significance in my life,
I was able to do it because
I had a team of people behind me.
I could never do this stuff on my own.
Like even now,
as I'm building this new company in Miami,
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I have a team of people behind me, right?
So ask for help.
The fourth thing is reframe failure.
Most people,
they look at life and they're like, oh,
I can't do this because if I fail,
I'm going to look like an idiot.
I'm going to be humiliated.
I'm going to lose a bunch of money.
My friends aren't going to like me.
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My wife's going to leave me.
They immediately jump to the
worst possible outcome and
they start to create a
narrative in their mind of
why they shouldn't do things.
And this is why most people
never get started, okay?
But the ability to be
successful is about our
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ability to constantly get back up.
And we constantly get back
up when we look at a failure and we think,
okay, this didn't work out.
What did we learn from that?
Like whenever I fail at something,
it could be like I burnt my steak, right?
It could be like I had a
keynote that went off or
like at a workshop that was
like I didn't get a ten out
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of ten on the NPS score or
I coached a client and he
didn't get what he – I
always think to myself,
the first thing that comes
to my mind is this could
have been so much worse if –
Right.
So you can condition
yourself to that kind of thinking.
This could have been so much
worth worse if this had happened.
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And the second thing I
always think to myself is
what did I just learn from
this experience?
My son's an entrepreneur, right?
He's an amazing kid.
He's had a lot of challenges in his life.
When he moved to Miami,
he started to try and be an entrepreneur.
And he was buying t-shirts
online and he was doing all
sorts of different things.
And he was having failure
after failure after failure.
And it was heartbreaking to
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watch this happen.
But instead of comforting
him and being like, oh, it's okay.
I was always like, what did you learn?
What'd you learn from this?
And he would get so pissed sometimes.
Be like, dad,
I learned that I lost a bunch of money.
I was like, no.
And he's like, oh,
I learned that I can't just
trust random strangers on Instagram.
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Why not?
Let's explore that, right?
So when you look at a
challenge in your life and
you look at something that
doesn't go well and you are
able to take a step back
from that and learn from it,
you become better.
And the very last pillar,
which I think is so
important and which I think
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our society has really lost track of,
is you have to have faith.
You and I have talked about this a lot.
Yes.
You have to embrace the fact
that you can't control the outcome.
You have to believe in
something bigger than yourself.
You have to ask for help.
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You have to believe in something greater.
I'm not telling you you need
to become a religious person.
I'm not telling you you
should believe in God or
Allah or you should be
Hindu or Muslim or whatever.
But I'm just telling you
that's kind of like my
experience is when I surrender myself to
When in particular, after forty years,
I decided to start going
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back to church and I
decided to start being a
more devout Christian and
believing in something greater.
My life changed.
I cannot explain it.
There is no logic behind it.
But there was a there was a level of peace,
of tranquility,
of serenity that came over
me that has enabled me to
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withstand a lot of adversity.
And when we have faith in something,
when we believe in something, again,
it's not necessarily religious.
It can be spiritual.
It can be a belief in ourselves.
It can be a belief in our cause.
It can be a belief in our country.
But when we believe in something,
we become much more resilient.
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right?
So seek purpose, do hard things,
ask for help,
reframe failure and embrace faith.
And if you do, and then, you know,
obviously in all my work and my, you know,
my books and all my stuff
and my workshops,
I provide tools and stuff
to help people train that.
But if you find ways to
train each one of these pillars,
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you will become more
resilient and you will
become more successful.
Absolutely.
And, you know, I have found that
faith helps me reframe my
failure so you know if I
fail or I even say just a
perceived failure because I
really don't even think
there is such a thing as
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actual failure so if I if I
have a perceived failure um
I've trained myself to the
point where I express
gratitude and I say exactly
Thank God.
Thank you, God.
Because this must mean a
bigger thing is coming and
you didn't want me tangled
up with the lesser.
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Exactly.
I think you just hit the nail on the head.
Right?
And honestly, if you practice that,
you won't be entangled with
the lesser and you're going
to find yourself entangled
with bigger and better
opportunities that propel
you towards success.
that help you build resilience,
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that build your inner
circle of people that you can trust,
right?
The faith is so critical.
It does help us reframe failure.
And the cool part about it
is if we're just doing like
reverse engineering on your
path of five steps,
The faith also helps us ask
for help because we know
there's somebody else out
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there that's bigger than we are.
And we can do hard things because, again,
we have someone else there with us.
We're not eating alone.
We're not dying alone.
We're not doing anything
alone if we have the faith.
And, of course,
that ultimately helps us
align with our purpose
because any of our purpose,
and I love what you said,
it has to be something the world needs,
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something that's for the betterment.
of humanity right if we're
aligned with our purpose
with with faith then
ultimately we're going to
create a business that
creates sustainable success
absolutely I really do
believe this that you know
I believe that there is a
god who knows all sees all
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and is involved in all and and
He knows if you have a
business that is genuinely
helping other people,
he also knows if you have a
business that is to the
detriment of others.
Absolutely.
Eventually, the truth comes out, right?
And you either grow or decline.
So I think that is so powerful, Patrick.
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Way to break that down for us all.
I really hope everybody got
a good bit of advice from
that because it is so important.
You know,
we talked about these five pillars.
You even mentioned Ikigai
there in Your Purpose.
you know,
leaning into not just your
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passion with your purpose,
but also thinking about
what the world needs,
finding something that we're good at,
and then, of course,
something that we can get paid for.
So this is so timely because,
like I said in the beginning,
you're speaking more and
more and more across stages,
bigger and bigger
conferences all the time,
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and you're clearly someone
who is aligned with their purpose.
Yeah.
So I love that you're not
just talking the talk but
walking the walk at the same time.
It's such a great example for everyone.
No, I appreciate that.
I think that's one of the
toughest parts of being a
coach and being a speaker
is that you have to
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practice what you preach.
There's days where I'm just like –
Friday night at seven PM.
I'm just like,
do I really want to go to the gym?
You know, I'm like,
do I really want to go to the gym?
I'm like, I'm like human,
like everybody else.
Right.
I'd like rather,
I'd rather go out and hang
out with friends or,
or go to a dinner and go to a movie.
Um,
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But, you know, when I tell people,
you know,
and I have these apps and stuff
to track all my progress at
the gym and I'll take like
a picture and I'll put like
a quote or something.
I'll be like, you know,
powering away at the gym at seven p.m.
on a Friday.
So, you know, it's like you said,
all these all these things
are wrapped up.
I think that.
If you look at the world today, Tara,
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there are a lot of amazing
good things happening,
which we don't talk about enough.
We spend too much time
focusing on the negative.
We spend too much time being
absorbed by social media and the news,
which talks often about the negative.
But one thing is for certain
is if you look at the
awesome power of artificial intelligence,
and I'm building an
(30:16):
AI-powered virtual version
of myself to coach people at scale.
Because I know that not
everybody can afford to
work with me if they want to.
And I know that everybody
should have that right.
They should get that help.
The amazing thing about
artificial intelligence,
it's completely going to
change the way we work, the way we live.
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The unfortunate thing about
artificial intelligence is
that there are going to be
a lot of people who are
going to get caught in this
technological tsunami that
they're either going to lose their job
Or they're going to have to
completely change how they work.
And that is going to be
overwhelming and create a
lot of anxiety for them.
And that's also why it's so
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important for people to
actively start building
this resilience muscle.
Because it's not a question
of whether your job is going to change.
It's a question of when your
job is going to change and
how much your job is going to change.
And then the question you
have to ask yourself is,
do I have what it takes?
Do I have enough gas in the
tank to actually make the
changes that I need to make?
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Right.
And so you need to develop that muscle.
And for me,
it came naturally because unfortunately,
being the son of an expat, you know,
I moved thirty three times
and I lived in eleven
different countries and I
have this crazy life story
that I did not ask for.
Right.
Although some people would
say you're a masochist
because you continue to do it.
Right.
You continue to change countries.
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You continue to start companies.
You continue to do very hard things.
But I didn't start that way.
Right.
But but that's why I always
tell people it's like, you know,
find your purpose and do
these things and try hard things.
And, you know,
my son for me is is is like I said,
he's a great example of a kid who,
you know, at eighteen, you know,
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he made the decision when
he was seventeen to leave
Chile and move to the US
and finish high school in the US.
Most normal kids would not
leave to do their senior
year in a different country,
in a different school.
That is not recommended.
You talk to most child psychologists,
they would definitely not recommend that.
But when I asked him, I was like,
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are you sure you want to do this?
Like,
you've had three amazing years at the
school.
It's a great school.
You've got friends.
You're a star on the basketball team.
He's like, dad,
I need to do this because
this is what's going to
help me get to the next level of myself.
Hmm.
Right.
As a seventeen year old.
And I got to tell you, Tara,
the first six months that he was here,
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they were miserable.
They were miserable for him
and they were miserable for me.
We were arguing all the time.
He had no friends.
He dropped out of the
basketball team because it
wasn't the right thing.
He was not enjoying school.
It was like his mom was up in arms.
Oh, my God, should he come back?
But when I look at where he is today.
and I look at the adversity
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he put himself through this last year,
and now you know what he's doing?
He's in North Dakota doing
door-to-door sales.
Wow.
Do you know how hard it is
to do door-to-door sales?
It is.
I mean,
that is like one of the hardest
jobs you could do, right?
But again, you are doing hard things.
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He will emerge with such a
level of self-confidence
after three months that
that there's no way he can lose.
I told him, I was like, look,
the first two weeks are
gonna suck and you're
probably not gonna make any money.
He sold three systems the
first three days.
He was knocking on doors
until eleven o'clock at
night on Saturday.
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Eleven o'clock at night and
he's out there still
knocking on people's doors.
Why?
Because he knows that they're home.
And so, again,
it goes back to this idea of
doing hard things.
Now, did he ask for help?
Yes.
He has training.
There are trainers in this company.
It's a public company, very respected.
They're helping him figure this stuff out.
They're teaching him how to do sales.
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But it was his decision to move to the US.
Nobody forced him.
Then again,
he lives with a coach who's
always talking about this stuff.
Yeah.
He's a lucky guy.
What a lucky guy he is.
Lucky or cursed,
depending on how you look at it.
I can't decide both.
Well, I love this, Patrick.
This is truly a conversation
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about how to become unstoppable.
And it's built on the
foundation of resilience by
doing hard things,
by getting out of your comfort zone,
leaning into things that
scare you and continual self-improvement,
not instant gratification.
not flash not glam not likes
right not engagement we're
(34:50):
talking about real results
that are sustainable over
time through for a lifetime
and the best part is you
can take this it's not
going away it's not going
anywhere these are
foundational concepts and
you can teach the next
generation how to become
resilient because honestly
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I think this is one of those
things that is going to be
steadily losing touch over time.
Our ability to become
resilient because we are so
into the flash, into the instant stuff.
So this is so key, so crucial.
Love it, love it, love it.
Patrick,
thank you so much for coming back
(35:31):
on the show and for being here.
Always happy to be here.
I love it.
Always happy to be here.
Always love talking to you, Tara.
We always have a great time.
Love it.
Well,
where can everybody learn more about
your work and find you online?
So you can learn more about
my work on patrickmork.com, on socials.
I'm at instagram.com,
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at Patrick Mork Official.
It's Patrick Mork Official on LinkedIn.
And on YouTube, it is at Mork Unfiltered,
which is the name of my new podcast,
which premieres officially July first.
We will be dropping a soft
launch of some content tomorrow.
But the official launch is July first.
So you can get that on all
of the major podcast
(36:13):
platforms that you listen to, Apple,
Spotify, et cetera, et cetera.
Or, of course, you can catch it.
You know,
you can catch the video version
of me speaking on YouTube as well.
So July first.
But Patrick Bork official,
Mork Unfiltered on YouTube
and PatrickBork.com.
That's where you can find me.
I love it.
Go to Amazon right now.
Get his book.
Start building resilience today, folks.
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This is such a key
conversation for anybody
starting a business or
anybody who is in a business.
They have a business,
but they're uncertain of
the future because we are
living in a time of uncertainty.
The key is to build
resilience so you have
sustainable success
regardless of what is
happening out there in the world.
(36:57):
Thank you so much for
everybody who tuned into
this episode of Grasp Confidence today.
We will catch you on the next episode.
Don't forget to like, share, subscribe,
and leave a review so that
more people find the show and tune in.
We will see you next time.
Take care.
Thanks, guys.
Back by popular demand,
I'm thrilled to welcome
Patrick Mork to the show
for a second time.
A bold voice in the world of
entrepreneurship,
Patrick is an ex-Google executive,
three-time Silicon Valley CMO,
high-demand keynote speaker,
best-selling author,
and the powerhouse behind Mork Unfiltered,
(00:48):
his new podcast launching tomorrow,
June twenty-fourth.
In this episode,
we will go deep into
strategy and resilience.
Patrick shares how faith
will be the bedrock of his
resilience through his
journey in entrepreneurship
and how discovering the
spiritual anchor
transformed the way he leads, lives,
(01:11):
and makes an impact.
If you're a high authority entrepreneur,
consultant or thought
leader looking to lead with
both conviction and authority,
this conversation is a must.
Patrick doesn't hold back.
He brings the truth,
the heart and the mindset
needed for lasting transformation.
Get ready to be inspired,
(01:32):
challenged and re-centered.
as we discuss the reason
people don't finish and why
they lack resilience.
Patrick, welcome to the show.
Hey, it's great to see you, Tara.
Always happy to be on the show.
I love it.
Well,
before we hop on to this conversation,
(01:54):
you and I backstage had a
brief intro to some amazing
work you're doing right now.
You are really leaning into
your speaking career, going full force.
I love that because the
industry of speaking is one
of the most challenging
career paths to take.
(02:16):
Part of the reason is because
Keynotes are often booked months out.
So you have to be really,
really prepared and really
resilient in the face of
rejection for this industry.
It's not for the faint of heart, Patrick.
Yeah, it's certainly not.
But you know, Tara,
my coach once told me
something that stuck with me.
(02:37):
She's like,
you always take the most
difficult road possible.
And, you know,
I don't it's not like I do
it intentionally.
Life is kind of like, you know,
after eleven countries and
thirty three moves and six startups,
you would think that I
would have enough gray hair
by now to have learned to
try and take it a little bit more easy.
But but, you know, life is just more,
(02:59):
you know,
I always tell people life begins
at the edge of your comfort zone.
And and, you know.
When we do hard things and
when we push ourselves,
life is more exciting.
It's more interesting.
We learn more.
We achieve more.
And more importantly, for me,
we inspire others.
And the world needs inspiration today.
I couldn't agree anymore.
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Oh, my gosh, that is so powerful.
But, you know,
we talked a little bit about
and you and I are both
seasoned entrepreneurs.
We talked about, you know,
that fear holds a lot of
people back from just
taking that first step, that leap.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But then once you're kind of
in it for a while, you know,
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what really holds people back?
It's not necessarily the fear anymore.
Sometimes it's what is it?
You know,
the analogy that I love to use is
thinking about racing, right?
Whether you're swimming or
sprinting or you're trying
to do something very hard,
fear is this kind of like
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primordial human emotion,
which we all have.
It's very normal, right?
It's this like fight or
flight kind of thing.
We know that we need to get
out of a bad relationship,
but we don't know what's on
the other side.
We know that we need to get
out of a toxic job or we
have a toxic manager.
We need to make a change, but we can't.
And so that is kind of like
what holds the majority of
people back from trying.
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The problem is not trying.
The problem is once we take
that initial first step,
how do we take the second step,
the third step, the fourth step,
the fifth step, the thousandth step,
right?
If you look at people like Thomas Edison,
right?
I think Edison tried one
thousand different versions
of the light bulb before he
actually got one that would work.
(04:45):
They tried all these
different filaments and
they tried all these –
there were all these
different permutations of
the commercial light bulb
until they got it to work.
You look at J.K.
Rowling with Harry Potter.
She spent five years on food stamps,
basically broke writing these books.
She finally finishes it.
She goes out and she talks
to twelve different publishers.
(05:05):
Twelfth.
before finally getting a book deal.
You look at Colonel Sanders
for those KFC fried chicken
lovers out there,
a thousand innate recipes, right?
So when I look at the world today, my fear,
Tara,
is we live in a world which is so
focused on the now,
(05:25):
so focused on this
twenty-four-seven culture
that you can get things immediately,
right?
You get things delivered to
your door immediately,
get food immediately,
get clothes immediately,
get everything immediately.
that we have forgotten that
the way to success,
whether it's financial or
relationship success or
health or anything else, it takes time.
It's a perseverance game.
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It's a persistence game.
And so what I always tell
people is that if you want
to become really unstoppable,
You need to be able to go the distance.
You need to build resilience.
You need to be able to get
back up when you get knocked down,
not just once or twice or ten times,
but you need to be able to
build that muscle.
And it's a muscle.
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It's like going to the gym.
People always tell me, dude,
how is it possible that you
are so fit and so ripped
and so high energy at your age?
And I tell people, I'm like, look,
I'm in the gym six days a week.
You know, I work out, you know,
twice a day, six days a week, right?
And it's not a coincidence
because I actively manage
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my energy level.
And I know that to manage my energy level,
I need to have certain rituals.
I need to do certain things.
And I need to take care of myself.
So, you know,
to become unstoppable means
to develop our resilience.
And there are many different
ways of doing this.
And, you know,
in the keynotes that I'm doing now,
I talk about five key
pillars that help you
(06:48):
become more unstoppable.
Well, I'm just waiting for somebody to say,
Tara, how did you get so ripped and fit?
Anybody who's listening, right?
Throw me a bone.
I would love that.
It would make my day.
Hey, you look great.
You look great.
But I'm thinking about this
becoming unstoppable.
(07:09):
Yeah.
You know,
I think you're really onto
something with this because
I look at just the culture of today.
Yeah.
all about instant gratification.
It's a bell, it's a whistle,
it's something shiny.
And none of it's long
lasting or sustainable.
(07:30):
And we're constantly in this
culture of comparison, again,
instant gratification.
And
you know, this instant success.
We hear all of these stories
and it makes us as entrepreneurs think,
oh,
I need to go and try that turn or this
turn or that way.
And then we get diverted
from our actual purpose and
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I think part of becoming unstoppable,
kind of like how you linked
it to exercise,
is literally just the consistency.
Absolutely.
It's the daily grind.
It's not the sexy thing.
Nope.
Right?
The sexy thing sounds like, oh,
I'm just going to get
instant success here.
Yeah.
But really, what is sustainable success,
(08:12):
something that nobody can
take away from you,
is your consistent daily habits.
And that actually builds
resilience over time.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
You know,
it's like there's a wonderful saying,
which I absolutely love,
which is we get praised in
public for what we do in private.
And that is so true, right?
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If you look at anybody who
is successful in anything, you know,
the route to mastery is a
ten-year journey.
There are no shortcuts.
And we live in a society
today where it's like,
look at our foreign policy, right?
It's a great example.
We go out and we bomb Iran.
That is short-term thinking
for a short-term win.
(08:53):
That is not long-lasting,
intelligent foreign policy.
It's very easy for us to try
and find a quick fix by
doing things in that fashion.
But is this going to produce
sustainable change in the Middle East?
Is it going to produce the
kind of regime that we want
to see in Iran?
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It's a symptom of a much
bigger problem that we have
in society today.
You look at Wall Street.
All the companies are
measured on quarterly earnings, right?
If you talk to the average executive,
especially a mid-level
executive working in a
publicly listed company,
that is one of the biggest challenges,
one of the biggest
pressures of working in
corporate America today is
everything is so short-term focused.
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People don't even have room
to think long-term.
I talk with entrepreneurs
and I coach entrepreneurs
all over the world,
and they all struggle from the same thing,
which is I can't even find
space to think
strategically about my business.
I can't even find a window
in my week to think about next quarter,
let alone next year.
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And so that's really the
challenge is that we need
to find a way to slow down
and actually to kind of
like what I call time box thinking time.
If you look at some of the
most successful management
books out there,
one of the things that you
read is that some of the
very successful people,
they will literally box out
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times on their calendar two
or three times a week for thinking time.
Like they're actually going to sit down,
they're going to write on
Notion or Google Docs or in
your notepad or whatever.
What's one of the biggest
problems I have in my business right now?
biggest problem is lack of
revenue my biggest problem
is customers constantly
turning my biggest problem
is I have too many offers
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whatever it is and then
they're going to spend an
hour processing and
thinking through that right
and now of course with
artificial intelligence you
can build custom gpts I
have multiple customer gpts
that I've built to help me
actually have a sparring
partner to think through these things
Right.
So I built like just for fun,
I built a Tony Robbins GPT.
(11:03):
Right.
I took all six of his books.
I uploaded it.
I said, you are Tony Robbins.
You're going to coach me
like Tony Robbins.
You're going to get in front of my face.
You're going to challenge me.
You're going to use all the
Tony Robbins tools and you
are going to help me think
through my business issues
as if it was a business coach.
And so I will find once or
twice a week where I'll sit
down with my Tony Robbins
GPT and I'll say, Tony,
here's the problem I'm having.
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Walk me through this.
What am I not seeing?
What are my options?
How do I pick the best option, right?
But I constantly am like
thinking about stuff and
I'm finding the time in my
day to think through it
because I know that
long-term it makes better decisions.
Like we're so focused on
taking action constantly
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that there's no time to
think about the long-term.
And so these actions,
because we're very achievement oriented,
And then we achieve the wrong things.
And then we have to go back
and undo things and start all over again.
Oh, my gosh.
A smart way to work.
So right on.
Oh, my gosh.
You know, when you're in that busy, busy,
(12:06):
busy mindset.
Yeah.
We it's masked.
You know,
we think it's productive and it's
masked as productivity,
but actually it's distracting.
I kind of liken it to being
a mouse in a field.
You can only see what's
right in front of you,
but you can't see anything else.
So I like what you said about, you know,
(12:27):
taking yourself out of the
picture for just a moment,
getting some clarity thinking.
I think it was Brian Tracy
who said during a keynote
speech once to go into the silence,
go into the silence,
sit with your thoughts for
thirty to sixty minutes
every single day and watch
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as the deep thinking occurs,
watches your survival brain stops.
Because that's the mouse in
the field you only see
right in front of you.
Then you go to that higher
level thinking plane where
you can actually see all around you,
know your next move before you even do it,
and see all of the
different components of it.
(13:09):
That's powerful.
Absolutely.
I think we all need to practice that more.
We do.
We do, for sure.
That's a big part of it.
I wrote a post on this years
ago after leaving Google.
Slow down to speed up.
Yeah.
It was all about, you know,
because in tech particularly,
(13:29):
you know,
we have this fascination with going fast,
right?
And it's like, oh my God, you know,
competitors are moving faster.
They're innovating more quickly.
We have this fascination with going fast,
which I understand.
But sometimes, you know,
we move so fast that we
make what you would look at
in hindsight is very obvious mistakes,
right?
And so when we slow down,
(13:49):
we actually give ourselves
more time to think through
these things and we do a
better job because we
thought through the implications.
Like, you know, I have made, I guess,
you know, now as I got older,
I don't make spot decisions anymore.
I think the other thing in our culture,
which is really interesting,
is we have forgotten how to say no.
We want to say yes to
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everybody all the time
because we're in this
culture of pleasing people
and getting likes.
When I work with executive
leaders on Wall Street or
private companies,
one of the things I first
do is I do a saboteur assessment,
the PQ saboteur assessment,
which is online.
It's free.
Anybody can do it.
And the thing that we find first is like,
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what are their saboteurs?
And many of them have this saboteur,
which is called the pleaser.
Yeah.
And the pleaser is all about
being liked and being nice
to people and pleasing people.
And unfortunately,
when you're leading a
company or you're leading a
team or you're leading any
kind of organization,
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that is not your mandate.
Leadership is not about pleasing.
It is not about being liked.
It is not about being popular.
It is about making decisions
and making good decisions
and then influencing people
towards the pursuit of a common goal.
And so when we take more time,
I think better things happen.
But it's very challenging to
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get people to shift their mindset.
It's very challenging.
And being able to shift your
mindset is actually one of
the five pillars of
resilience that I talk
about in my keynote.
you have to be able to shift
your mindset yeah tell us
about what are the five
pillars I think this is
really important because I
want people to walk away
who are listening to this
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with with you know writing
things down so if you guys
are listening go ahead and
grab a pen and paper write
this down let's talk about
resilience in these five
pillars patrick what what are they
So, you know,
if we want to actually achieve our goals,
we have to be resilient
because resilience is all
about our ability,
not just to bounce back,
but to bounce back stronger, smarter,
(15:54):
faster, right?
And more capable, right?
So every time we get knocked down,
that's an opportunity to
learn something and emerge stronger,
right?
So your first pillar
is really about understanding purpose.
What is my purpose in life?
What is my purpose at work?
What is the reason I'm on this planet?
Now,
it sounds like a very philosophical
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question, but it isn't.
Your purpose can be something as simple as,
my purpose is to make
enough money to be able to
make sure that my kids can
afford a good college.
That could be your purpose of life.
Your purpose could be around
educating your children to
make sure that they're successful.
Your purpose could be around
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uncovering the cure to
cancer or developing the
next technology to help
people find a more
interesting and fulfilling
and engaging career.
There was a very famous boxing match
I don't remember who it was.
It was Evander Holyfield or somebody else.
They were fighting against Mike Tyson,
right?
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And they're like,
I think the guy comes out
in the first round.
And in the first round,
he gets knocked down by Tyson.
He just gets decked.
And everybody's like, he's done, right?
It's over.
He's not getting back up.
And the guy gets back up,
to everybody's surprise.
And he gets knocked down
several more times.
And he goes through ten rounds of this.
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and gets through it and I
think finally wins by like
a tko or something I don't
remember but he ends up
winning he was like one of
the first people or the
first person ever to defeat
mike tyson and when they
asked him afterwards why he
was able to do it they're
like what was in your mind
to help you get up each
time he's like my mama had
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died the day before wow the the the match
And I had promised her that
I would become world champion, right?
That is somebody who is
motivated by a greater sense of purpose.
So we were able to tap into
our purpose very deeply, right?
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And purpose is, you know,
when I define purpose,
what I mean for people in the audience,
if people are asking, what's purpose?
Like, what does that mean?
You know that you're working
with purpose when you have
four things that align.
First,
you are doing something
which you're passionate about.
But it doesn't end there
because most people think, oh,
you got to do what you're
passionate about, like follow my passion.
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Passion is a start, but it's not enough,
okay?
The second thing is do
something that the world needs.
A lot of people end up
failing or they run out of energy.
They have no more tank, you know,
and they have no more gas
in the fuel tank because
they run out of energy.
And the reason they're
running out of energy is
because they're not doing
something that really makes
a difference to the world.
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right?
Like one of the reasons I
left Google was I was not
really inspired by getting
more people to download
more apps and games from the Play Store.
It's like, who cares?
Is that going to make the
world a better place?
Not really.
Is it going to help people?
It depends on what they're downloading.
But I was not inspired by
what I was doing.
I wasn't inspired by
building an app store anymore, right?
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So find something that the
world really needs.
Third
find something that you're
really good at because like
I could be passionate about
playing the violin, Tara,
but you don't want to hear
me play the violin and
nobody is going to pay me
to play the violin.
All right,
so you gotta be good at what
you're doing.
And finally, of course,
if you can't pay rent at
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the end of the day, it's all for none,
unless you're rich or you
live on an island where you
have no cost of living.
All of us need to make a living.
So when you find that the
intersection of those four things, right,
what I'm passionate about,
what the world needs,
what I'm really good at
doing and what I could get paid for doing,
the intersection of that is your purpose.
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Right.
So that's the first pillar.
The second pillar is do hard things like,
oh, my God, so many people are so scared.
They're like, oh, that's so hard.
Oh, my God.
Going to the gym five days a
week is so hard.
Oh, running a marathon is so hard.
Oh, changing careers is so hard.
Oh, leaving my toxic boyfriend is so hard.
Dude, get over it.
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Right.
The most fulfilling things
that you will do in your life are hard.
That's why they're fulfilling, right?
If you look at people who
are successful in any area of their lives,
whether it's as a doctor, as a parent,
as a marathon runner, as a surgeon,
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as a police officer,
those people work
incredibly hard and they do hard things.
Right.
Third thing is ask for help.
Oh, my God.
Like the number of people
who are like they have this
like Gary Vaynerchuk mentality of like,
oh,
I'm just going to I'm just going to
grind through it on my own.
Right.
Guys,
especially I'm going to retreat to my
(20:50):
man cave and figure this out.
That is not intelligent.
That is not how you solve
the most intractable problems.
The most intractable
problems are solved by a team.
If you're a solo entrepreneur.
And you're like, dude, I have no mentor.
Then I would say, dude, get an advisor.
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Get a coach.
Talk to other entrepreneurs.
Sign up for a men's group if you're a guy.
Sign up for a women's group
if you're a woman.
Anything that I ever
achieved of significance in my life,
I was able to do it because
I had a team of people behind me.
I could never do this stuff on my own.
Like even now,
as I'm building this new company in Miami,
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I have a team of people behind me, right?
So ask for help.
The fourth thing is reframe failure.
Most people,
they look at life and they're like, oh,
I can't do this because if I fail,
I'm going to look like an idiot.
I'm going to be humiliated.
I'm going to lose a bunch of money.
My friends aren't going to like me.
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My wife's going to leave me.
They immediately jump to the
worst possible outcome and
they start to create a
narrative in their mind of
why they shouldn't do things.
And this is why most people
never get started, okay?
But the ability to be
successful is about our
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ability to constantly get back up.
And we constantly get back
up when we look at a failure and we think,
okay, this didn't work out.
What did we learn from that?
Like whenever I fail at something,
it could be like I burnt my steak, right?
It could be like I had a
keynote that went off or
like at a workshop that was
like I didn't get a ten out
(22:33):
of ten on the NPS score or
I coached a client and he
didn't get what he – I
always think to myself,
the first thing that comes
to my mind is this could
have been so much worse if –
Right.
So you can condition
yourself to that kind of thinking.
This could have been so much
worth worse if this had happened.
(22:53):
And the second thing I
always think to myself is
what did I just learn from
this experience?
My son's an entrepreneur, right?
He's an amazing kid.
He's had a lot of challenges in his life.
When he moved to Miami,
he started to try and be an entrepreneur.
And he was buying t-shirts
online and he was doing all
sorts of different things.
And he was having failure
after failure after failure.
And it was heartbreaking to
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watch this happen.
But instead of comforting
him and being like, oh, it's okay.
I was always like, what did you learn?
What'd you learn from this?
And he would get so pissed sometimes.
Be like, dad,
I learned that I lost a bunch of money.
I was like, no.
And he's like, oh,
I learned that I can't just
trust random strangers on Instagram.
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Why not?
Let's explore that, right?
So when you look at a
challenge in your life and
you look at something that
doesn't go well and you are
able to take a step back
from that and learn from it,
you become better.
And the very last pillar,
which I think is so
important and which I think
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our society has really lost track of,
is you have to have faith.
You and I have talked about this a lot.
Yes.
You have to embrace the fact
that you can't control the outcome.
You have to believe in
something bigger than yourself.
You have to ask for help.
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You have to believe in something greater.
I'm not telling you you need
to become a religious person.
I'm not telling you you
should believe in God or
Allah or you should be
Hindu or Muslim or whatever.
But I'm just telling you
that's kind of like my
experience is when I surrender myself to
When in particular, after forty years,
I decided to start going
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back to church and I
decided to start being a
more devout Christian and
believing in something greater.
My life changed.
I cannot explain it.
There is no logic behind it.
But there was a there was a level of peace,
of tranquility,
of serenity that came over
me that has enabled me to
(24:57):
withstand a lot of adversity.
And when we have faith in something,
when we believe in something, again,
it's not necessarily religious.
It can be spiritual.
It can be a belief in ourselves.
It can be a belief in our cause.
It can be a belief in our country.
But when we believe in something,
we become much more resilient.
(25:20):
right?
So seek purpose, do hard things,
ask for help,
reframe failure and embrace faith.
And if you do, and then, you know,
obviously in all my work and my, you know,
my books and all my stuff
and my workshops,
I provide tools and stuff
to help people train that.
But if you find ways to
train each one of these pillars,
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you will become more
resilient and you will
become more successful.
Absolutely.
And, you know, I have found that
faith helps me reframe my
failure so you know if I
fail or I even say just a
perceived failure because I
really don't even think
there is such a thing as
(26:01):
actual failure so if I if I
have a perceived failure um
I've trained myself to the
point where I express
gratitude and I say exactly
Thank God.
Thank you, God.
Because this must mean a
bigger thing is coming and
you didn't want me tangled
up with the lesser.
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Exactly.
I think you just hit the nail on the head.
Right?
And honestly, if you practice that,
you won't be entangled with
the lesser and you're going
to find yourself entangled
with bigger and better
opportunities that propel
you towards success.
that help you build resilience,
(26:42):
that build your inner
circle of people that you can trust,
right?
The faith is so critical.
It does help us reframe failure.
And the cool part about it
is if we're just doing like
reverse engineering on your
path of five steps,
The faith also helps us ask
for help because we know
there's somebody else out
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there that's bigger than we are.
And we can do hard things because, again,
we have someone else there with us.
We're not eating alone.
We're not dying alone.
We're not doing anything
alone if we have the faith.
And, of course,
that ultimately helps us
align with our purpose
because any of our purpose,
and I love what you said,
it has to be something the world needs,
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something that's for the betterment.
of humanity right if we're
aligned with our purpose
with with faith then
ultimately we're going to
create a business that
creates sustainable success
absolutely I really do
believe this that you know
I believe that there is a
god who knows all sees all
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and is involved in all and and
He knows if you have a
business that is genuinely
helping other people,
he also knows if you have a
business that is to the
detriment of others.
Absolutely.
Eventually, the truth comes out, right?
And you either grow or decline.
So I think that is so powerful, Patrick.
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Way to break that down for us all.
I really hope everybody got
a good bit of advice from
that because it is so important.
You know,
we talked about these five pillars.
You even mentioned Ikigai
there in Your Purpose.
you know,
leaning into not just your
(28:30):
passion with your purpose,
but also thinking about
what the world needs,
finding something that we're good at,
and then, of course,
something that we can get paid for.
So this is so timely because,
like I said in the beginning,
you're speaking more and
more and more across stages,
bigger and bigger
conferences all the time,
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and you're clearly someone
who is aligned with their purpose.
Yeah.
So I love that you're not
just talking the talk but
walking the walk at the same time.
It's such a great example for everyone.
No, I appreciate that.
I think that's one of the
toughest parts of being a
coach and being a speaker
is that you have to
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practice what you preach.
There's days where I'm just like –
Friday night at seven PM.
I'm just like,
do I really want to go to the gym?
You know, I'm like,
do I really want to go to the gym?
I'm like, I'm like human,
like everybody else.
Right.
I'd like rather,
I'd rather go out and hang
out with friends or,
or go to a dinner and go to a movie.
Um,
(29:33):
But, you know, when I tell people,
you know,
and I have these apps and stuff
to track all my progress at
the gym and I'll take like
a picture and I'll put like
a quote or something.
I'll be like, you know,
powering away at the gym at seven p.m.
on a Friday.
So, you know, it's like you said,
all these all these things
are wrapped up.
I think that.
If you look at the world today, Tara,
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there are a lot of amazing
good things happening,
which we don't talk about enough.
We spend too much time
focusing on the negative.
We spend too much time being
absorbed by social media and the news,
which talks often about the negative.
But one thing is for certain
is if you look at the
awesome power of artificial intelligence,
and I'm building an
(30:16):
AI-powered virtual version
of myself to coach people at scale.
Because I know that not
everybody can afford to
work with me if they want to.
And I know that everybody
should have that right.
They should get that help.
The amazing thing about
artificial intelligence,
it's completely going to
change the way we work, the way we live.
(30:36):
The unfortunate thing about
artificial intelligence is
that there are going to be
a lot of people who are
going to get caught in this
technological tsunami that
they're either going to lose their job
Or they're going to have to
completely change how they work.
And that is going to be
overwhelming and create a
lot of anxiety for them.
And that's also why it's so
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important for people to
actively start building
this resilience muscle.
Because it's not a question
of whether your job is going to change.
It's a question of when your
job is going to change and
how much your job is going to change.
And then the question you
have to ask yourself is,
do I have what it takes?
Do I have enough gas in the
tank to actually make the
changes that I need to make?
(31:18):
Right.
And so you need to develop that muscle.
And for me,
it came naturally because unfortunately,
being the son of an expat, you know,
I moved thirty three times
and I lived in eleven
different countries and I
have this crazy life story
that I did not ask for.
Right.
Although some people would
say you're a masochist
because you continue to do it.
Right.
You continue to change countries.
(31:39):
You continue to start companies.
You continue to do very hard things.
But I didn't start that way.
Right.
But but that's why I always
tell people it's like, you know,
find your purpose and do
these things and try hard things.
And, you know,
my son for me is is is like I said,
he's a great example of a kid who,
you know, at eighteen, you know,
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he made the decision when
he was seventeen to leave
Chile and move to the US
and finish high school in the US.
Most normal kids would not
leave to do their senior
year in a different country,
in a different school.
That is not recommended.
You talk to most child psychologists,
they would definitely not recommend that.
But when I asked him, I was like,
(32:21):
are you sure you want to do this?
Like,
you've had three amazing years at the
school.
It's a great school.
You've got friends.
You're a star on the basketball team.
He's like, dad,
I need to do this because
this is what's going to
help me get to the next level of myself.
Hmm.
Right.
As a seventeen year old.
And I got to tell you, Tara,
the first six months that he was here,
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they were miserable.
They were miserable for him
and they were miserable for me.
We were arguing all the time.
He had no friends.
He dropped out of the
basketball team because it
wasn't the right thing.
He was not enjoying school.
It was like his mom was up in arms.
Oh, my God, should he come back?
But when I look at where he is today.
and I look at the adversity
(33:02):
he put himself through this last year,
and now you know what he's doing?
He's in North Dakota doing
door-to-door sales.
Wow.
Do you know how hard it is
to do door-to-door sales?
It is.
I mean,
that is like one of the hardest
jobs you could do, right?
But again, you are doing hard things.
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He will emerge with such a
level of self-confidence
after three months that
that there's no way he can lose.
I told him, I was like, look,
the first two weeks are
gonna suck and you're
probably not gonna make any money.
He sold three systems the
first three days.
He was knocking on doors
until eleven o'clock at
night on Saturday.
(33:46):
Eleven o'clock at night and
he's out there still
knocking on people's doors.
Why?
Because he knows that they're home.
And so, again,
it goes back to this idea of
doing hard things.
Now, did he ask for help?
Yes.
He has training.
There are trainers in this company.
It's a public company, very respected.
They're helping him figure this stuff out.
They're teaching him how to do sales.
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But it was his decision to move to the US.
Nobody forced him.
Then again,
he lives with a coach who's
always talking about this stuff.
Yeah.
He's a lucky guy.
What a lucky guy he is.
Lucky or cursed,
depending on how you look at it.
I can't decide both.
Well, I love this, Patrick.
This is truly a conversation
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about how to become unstoppable.
And it's built on the
foundation of resilience by
doing hard things,
by getting out of your comfort zone,
leaning into things that
scare you and continual self-improvement,
not instant gratification.
not flash not glam not likes
right not engagement we're
(34:50):
talking about real results
that are sustainable over
time through for a lifetime
and the best part is you
can take this it's not
going away it's not going
anywhere these are
foundational concepts and
you can teach the next
generation how to become
resilient because honestly
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I think this is one of those
things that is going to be
steadily losing touch over time.
Our ability to become
resilient because we are so
into the flash, into the instant stuff.
So this is so key, so crucial.
Love it, love it, love it.
Patrick,
thank you so much for coming back
(35:31):
on the show and for being here.
Always happy to be here.
I love it.
Always happy to be here.
Always love talking to you, Tara.
We always have a great time.
Love it.
Well,
where can everybody learn more about
your work and find you online?
So you can learn more about
my work on patrickmork.com, on socials.
I'm at instagram.com,
(35:52):
at Patrick Mork Official.
It's Patrick Mork Official on LinkedIn.
And on YouTube, it is at Mork Unfiltered,
which is the name of my new podcast,
which premieres officially July first.
We will be dropping a soft
launch of some content tomorrow.
But the official launch is July first.
So you can get that on all
of the major podcast
(36:13):
platforms that you listen to, Apple,
Spotify, et cetera, et cetera.
Or, of course, you can catch it.
You know,
you can catch the video version
of me speaking on YouTube as well.
So July first.
But Patrick Bork official,
Mork Unfiltered on YouTube
and PatrickBork.com.
That's where you can find me.
I love it.
Go to Amazon right now.
Get his book.
Start building resilience today, folks.
(36:36):
This is such a key
conversation for anybody
starting a business or
anybody who is in a business.
They have a business,
but they're uncertain of
the future because we are
living in a time of uncertainty.
The key is to build
resilience so you have
sustainable success
regardless of what is
happening out there in the world.
(36:57):
Thank you so much for
everybody who tuned into
this episode of Grasp Confidence today.
We will catch you on the next episode.
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