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July 9, 2024 16 mins

We are not going to ruin the surprise effect of this episode of Dos and Don’ts by putting any of it in the description.  We will just say, Meggan Guns was warmed up in her last episode, so we decided to turn up the heat.  She wants to be the next Dallas County Attorney.  Can she answer the tough questions?  Here is a hint about this episode.  It involves a convicted sex offender, a vehicle, a tricycle and the police.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're usually a bubbly personality.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Bubbling Bobby.

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Yeah, Bubbling Bobby Got a new nickname.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
You should be.
I was just going to say BubblesWant to watch a lawyer squirm,
do's and don'ts Springs,publicly asks legal advice,
questions on experts in theirfield.
We are back.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
With energy.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
With energy.
I was told I was flat and didnot have sufficient energy.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Now you're more bubbly.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I'm bubbly Bobby, bubbly Bobby, bubbly Bobby Ray.
Okay, welcome back, mrs Guns.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Thank you much, glad to be here.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Do you want to do the disclaimer this time?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
I will do the disclaimer.
Okay, glad to be here.
Do you want to do thedisclaimer this time?
I will do the disclaimer.
Nothing that I say representsDallas County, polk County, the
Polk County Attorney's Office,the Dallas County Attorney's
Office, the state of Iowa or anyother governmental agency.
These are my opinions, and myopinions only.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
That was well said.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Now we can have some energy.
Okay, we warmed up sufficientlywith the last segment.
I've come to just give up thefact that people are going to
think we recorded these ondifferent days.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, I mean, you'd really need to tell me to bring
a change of shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
So I meant to, I thought about it, and then I'm
just like people are really needto tell me to bring a change of
shirt.
So I meant to, I thought aboutit, and then I'm just like
people are smart, they're goingto figure us out.
Yeah, so I'm just owning thefact that we are going
back-to-back episodes becauseyou're a busy woman.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
I appreciate that.
Yeah, this worked.
I mean, I don't have anythinggoing on.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, a couple things going on here.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
they're like no, whatever bobby needs we know
that he sits and he looks prettyin the camera all the time I do
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
It's basically his new job not wanting to brag, but
I'm the pretty face here anyway, the looks of the office yeah,
yeah, made for tv, made for tvface made for radio.
Ah, okay, okay, we have this,one is good okay, last one, the
last one was we have this one isgood, okay, hit me with it.
The last one was easy.

(02:07):
It was this one.
We can get into the weedsbecause we're going to.
It's a nice short question.
Okay, it's a very, I think, avery powerful question.
Going to have a contemplationface.
I think there is going to be aWTF probably face coming from.
By the way, since this is GRL,you are allowed to cuss if you

(02:29):
want to.
Individually, as your ownpersonal human being, you can
cuss if you want to Okay.
This might bring out somecussing.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Good to know.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Are you ready?

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Hit me.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
This one is not from Reddit.
Oh, we found this one in adifferent source, avocom I was
going to say your inbox.
Well, yeah, actually this cameto me as a question, because you
get notifications from theseservices when there's questions
posed and it usually goes to myjunk or my clutter.
This one popped up.

(03:00):
I looked at it and I'm likewhoa, this is a do's and don'ts.
This is a do's and don'ts.
This is a do's and don'ts.
I don't have to go searchingthrough Reddit, perfect.
I don't understand how Redditis valued so high.
It's kind of I don't get it.
It's it's like a.
It's like a 1990s website.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
I don't have it I don't, I don't, I don't have it.
I had to, so I'm old you are Doyou have TikTok?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I don't.
We talked about TikTok.
Do your kids have TikTok?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Nope, my kids don't have social media.
They don't support China no.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Okay, here we go, you ready?
Okay, see what I did.
I brought in another segment.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
I'm cross-promoting.
I got energy, here we go.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Serious face.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Okay, so dumb.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
This was from May 7th 2024, by the way, oh God.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Suspense is killing me.
Can a sex offender be chargedfor having a tricycle on the
hood of their car?
Who does that?
So this was submitted at 2.20pm on May 7, 2024.
Hold on, there's a fullquestion.

(04:21):
Okay, monticello PoliceDepartment is trying to charge a
man that was wrongfullyconvicted of sex offense, I'm
sure, with having a tricycle onthe hood of his car.
Is that?

Speaker 1 (04:37):
even legal.
Well, first of all, I'massuming Monticello, as in Iowa,
yeah, okay.
That's eastern Iowa wepronounce it Monticello as in
Iowa.
Yeah, okay, that's eastern Iowa.
We pronounce it Monticello inIowa.
Just FYI, I'm from eastern Iowa.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
It's Monticello.
Do you want to have a debateabout pronunciations in Iowa?
They're done.
No, we have M-A-D-R-I-D.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
It's Madrid.
It's Madrid in Spain.
It's.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Spanish Madrid.
Yeah, I get it, I get it.
N-e-v-a-d-a.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Nevada here, Nevada everywhere else.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
And it's named after the Sierra Nevada Mountains.
Did you know that?
I?

Speaker 1 (05:13):
understand the concept.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
A-M-E-S.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Ames.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
You know, ames is not a word in the English language.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Here's the deal it's Monticello.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
But do you know where it comes from?

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Well, Monticello.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
No, ames, the Ames, oh, it's Ames.
I think it means check mySpanish to love.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Amor is the verb to love.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
But Ames is different .
Watch, I'm going to look thisup.
Hold on Fact, check me, becauseI looked this up one time.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Te amo.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Me amo.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Remember the Taco Bell commercial you love.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
See, it was you love.
I was very close.
Okay, amos, we're no longerreferring to it as Ames.
It's Amos Now, monticello.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
In Monticello, iowa, okay.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
So let's answer some questions.
Can a sex offender be chargedfor having a tricycle on the
hood of their car?
Is that even legal?

Speaker 1 (06:23):
First I'd like to go back to the person's assumption.
That someone was wrong,wrongfully convicted happens so
either they pled guilty or ajury found them guilty.
So that jury didn't they.
They did their job.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Juries are great in iowa let's wrongfully convicted,
we'll go with convicted sexoffender.
Okay, they go with convictedsex offender.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Okay, they're a convicted sex offender.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
On the list.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Okay, can they have a tricycle on their car?

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
So the first thing I thought was like ice cream truck
and like he's like playing thebluey music out the door, like
trying to attract the kids, solike is this an attractive
nuisance type?

Speaker 2 (07:06):
of that was gonna hit me too, that attractive
nuisance yeah, is this bait?

Speaker 1 (07:10):
is this bait it's?
A bait car now he's like theopposite of to catch a predator,
it's to to catch a kid to catcha child to catch a child.
That To catch a child, that'sreally wrong.
That's really wrong.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Morally wrong, however.
However, we're getting deep, sobad Is it illegal to bait a
child with a tricycle?
Just stop it at getting a childon a tricycle without any
intent behind it.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
If we are just saying put a tricycle on the car, If
we are just saying put atricycle on the car, I don't
know of any law that preventsyou from putting a tricycle on
top of your car.
The Sex Offender Registry underIowa Code Section 692A.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Boom, here is knowledge drop.
Let's do this.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
I'm going to throw a little bit of law at you.
There's some pretty goodrestrictions in there.
There's some pretty goodrestrictions in there.
You can't be in places that areknown to be frequented by
children, such as libraries,parks, beaches, playgrounds, for
people who have restrictions.
If it was, a sex offenseagainst a child.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
So you can't bait children to be in your presence.
If you are a convicted sexoffender Can we probably go with
that.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
I mean you.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
No.
Can a sex offender walk downthe street handing out candy to
little kids?

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Well, I think a sex offender can't.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Lawfully.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
See, you're making me do this without codes.
I will tell you, a goodprosecutor is always going to
look at the code book.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
You will, but this is unrehearsed.
You didn't know that thetricycle question was coming.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
I didn't know that baiting children was going to be
the question.
There are places you can't be.
So if he had that bicycle,tricycle-laden vehicle at a
beach or a library or someplacewhere children are— Outside the
elementary school, outside theelementary school I'd say we
have a huge problem.
Yes, vehicle at a beach or alibrary or someplace where
children are Outside theelementary school, outside the
elementary school, I'd say wehave a huge problem.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
If it is just that he replaced the you know, Jaguar
hood ornament because I'massuming it's a Jaguar obviously
I would say the Jaguar hoodornament with a tricycle,
because that's just like how helives life and obviously we're
going to tie over into trafficlaws doesn't obstruct his view
when driving.
Yep, okay so we're assuming itdoesn't obstruct his view you

(09:31):
could drive around with a carwith a tricycle on it as a hood
ornament there's nothing thatsays you can't do that I'm
trying to think through chapter321, the traffic code, and I
don't know that.
I think you can do it.
It's where you're doing it.
That would be the problem.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
And there's nothing that says you can't be near
children.
There's talk about it beingunsupervised around children.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
So the no-contact orders are like the registry
requirements for admissions.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Now you added a no contact order into it.
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
So if it was, and so it depends upon what conviction
he had or she had I'm assuming Iwrongfully assumed it was a he
you did wrongfully assume he.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
That is my bad.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
We both know that females can offend sexually as
well they can.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
I think statistically you were leaning where we
normally see it, but I wasincorrect there.
I will say it would depend onwhether or not the sex offense
that they were put on theregistry for was against a child
or an adult, because there areadditional restrictions that
could put into place if that andthat's where all those
restrictions about libraries andbeaches and stuff come from if

(10:40):
their sex offense wasn't againstexcuse me, was against an adult
, all those aren't going tonecessarily be put into place,
so they could probably bait kidsas much as they want, creepy as
that is abating, baitingchildren is not a technically a
crime, you know what the I'vehad to say to juries before.
So bad Grooming is not illegal.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
We could probably spend a couple of hours talking
about grooming versus goodparenting, versus all kinds of
things.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
I do sex offenses and sex offenses against kids, and
there's always the person that'sthe perpetrator who's buying
the presents and doing all this.
And hindsight's 2020 and sure,when we look back we know that
it's grooming, but at the timeprobably just looked like they
were being very attentive.
So if you have a creepy unclewho's being especially attentive
to your kids, or aunt or aunt,it's true, just saying just pay

(11:38):
attention, pay attention.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
So we could say do, pay attention.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Do pay attention and maybe I'm going to say as a
parent don't let your kid go byanybody who has a trike attached
as a hood ornament on theirvehicle.
I'm just going to throw thatout there as just like common
sense parenting.
Especially if they have likebluey music going.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
I don't know, I might go check it out If you got the
ice cream man with the tricycleon the front.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
I think he's also got puppies in there for you.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Hopefully.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
I mean you're going right in the back.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
If he's got Laffy Taffy, I'm jumping in myself.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
I'm just saying you are 100% getting kidnapped.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
My wife would be happy with that.
So technically, a couldMonticello charge the person, if
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
I feel like we don't have enough information, I feel
like there's way more to thisstory that we would need.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
I kind of feel like a road trip to Monticello to find
this person.
Jones County Fair is inMonticello.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
It has some of the best country concerts.
Some of the best countryconcerts.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
So you head out to Jones County Fair, check out
Monticello Iowa, pronounce itthat way.
See what state you come back in.
Iowa, pronounce it that way,see how, what state you come
back in.
And then see if you find thecar with a trike as a hood
ornament.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
So we're going to roll with some dudes.
Hey dude, if you submitted thisquestion, reach out to us and
get us more information on this,because we will do follow-ups.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
I would love a follow-up.
I will come back for sessiontwo, three, four.
Look, we'll dig.
We can go real deep on this oneand pictures, yes, of the car.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yes, let's be clear, I also really like license
plates.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Like I just want this information.
So, Now, you just piqued mycuriosity.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
I'm like, literally, this is fascinating, so do keep
submitting awesome questionslike this.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Please do.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, If we're going to say but I got to let you
throw you the do's and don'tsout of this.
What the best do's and don'tsyou can come up with off the
cuff.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Okay, if you're a convicted sex offender, don't.
Go.
Well, a convicted sex offenderwho was convicted for something
against children?
So well, a convicted sexoffender who was convicted for
something against children?
Don't go near libraries,beaches, playgrounds, elementary

(14:12):
schools, places where you'd beprohibited.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Can I add to that yeah, don't bait children with
tricycles.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
I was just going to add in that Like maybe just
don't do this, because I feellike you're really drawing
attention to yourself thatotherwise would not have been.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
We're talking about it.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Or maybe do, because somebody is going to look into
you and maybe, for the good ofthe community, we want them to
do that.
So you know what I'm going tochange it.
Do put a tricycle on the hoodof your car if you're a
convicted sex offender who'strying to bait children, because
you are a very easy target forlaw enforcement.
Yeah, do self-snitch, doself-snitch, yeah, yeah, I think

(14:48):
that's a good do.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
I mean, I bet you know what.
I bet somebody from the statepatrol could tell us if this is
illegal to have a tricyclesecured to the hood of the car.
I'm going to say I bet you getstopped.
I don't know if it, I don't.
I don't know what the citationis going to be, but there is
somebody much smarter than methat's like.
This fits this code section.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
I feel like the the first one that jumps out to me
is that it would likely restrictyour, your vision, your field
of vision Kind of like if acrack in the window has been
accused of that.
I feel like the trike on thehood is going to Just my
thoughts, but I don't know.
Is it like a Lego trike?

Speaker 2 (15:31):
See, now we're just jumping down rabbit holes.
Now we are.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
I mean if it's a Lego trike and it's literally the
same size as the.
Jaguar do it.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Go for it.
Fashion statement yeah, but ifit's like Radio flyer yeah.
That's what I'm, that's what Ihave in mind rusty radio flyer.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah the broken pedal .

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Rusty little wonky cattywampus yep well, don't perp
on children don't perp onchildren if you do.
Do tell on yourself.
Do keep submitting amazingquestions like this to come to
my inbox.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
This was amazing.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Amen, thank you for being a good sport.
You did not know what wascoming.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
I had no idea and I don't think I have ever been
asked such a perplexing legalquestion.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
You are welcome.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
This has been another wonderful episode of Do's and
Don'ts.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Cheers.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Cheers.
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