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September 17, 2025 52 mins

Send the Uglies a Text!

THERE WAS ROOM ON THE DOOR, ROSE! JUST MOVE OVER A SMIDGE!

*Apparently my laptop chose the internal mic rather than my external one. Sorry about that folks, the audio will be much more crisp and beautiful (unlike me) for the next session. Cheers! - Steve*

Anyway, in this episode, hosts Steve Counsell and Patrick Aleshire talk about the importance of authenticity and the balancing act that trust-building can have in learning and development. Of course, in true fashion, Steve and Patrick lose the script and discuss why reading signs is an important life skill and how Steve's pride was dismantled by an Enrique Iglesias groupie.


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