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April 16, 2025 37 mins

In this episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, Elliott Rayner joins Joran to unpack a game-changing tool for B2B SaaS brands: strategic storytelling. As a CMO @ Owow, Elliott has deep roots in the sports and tech arenas, Elliott brings a fresh, insider perspective on how to craft narratives that cut through the noise. In a world brimming with sameness, he shows us how the right story can become your unfair advantage.


Key Timecodes

  • (0:00) - Elliott on storytelling and strategic narrative

  • (0:46) - Introduction of Elliott Rayner by Joran

  • (1:28) - Importance of strategic narrative for B2B SaaS

  • (2:38) - Elliott on differentiated value, ICP, and credibility

  • (4:33) - The importance of the three pillars in storytelling

  • (5:38) - Misconceptions about strategic storytelling

  • (7:42) - Selling to humans in B2B

  • (8:05) - User experience as storytelling

  • (9:05) - Common storytelling mistakes in SaaS companies

  • (10:20) - Implementing a strategic narrative: step-by-step

  • (13:04) - Difference between strategic narrative and positioning

  • (14:09) - Elements of a good story

  • (15:34) - Common storytelling mistakes in SaaS

  • (17:25) - The role of conflict in storytelling

  • (18:08) - Example of storytelling in SaaS

  • (19:09) - Challenges in implementing storytelling

  • (21:04) - The importance of psychology in marketing

  • (22:39) - SaaS companies doing storytelling right

  • (24:51) - Understanding progress in storytelling

  • (27:30) - Aligning sales and marketing

  • (30:02) - AI as a risk and opportunity in storytelling

  • (31:59) - Dynamic vs. static personas and messaging

  • (32:10) - Elliott’s advice on strategic narrative

  • (32:39) - Advice for SaaS founders at different stages

  • (35:39) - Summary of key insights from the episode

  • (36:40) - Closing remarks and contact information

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