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December 12, 2025 37 mins
What do the most successful entrepreneurs understand about money that struggling business owners never figure out? In this powerful episode of Grow Your Business and Grow Your Wealth, guest host Jack Reeder sits down with Phil Zuckerman, National Lead Faculty for Goldman Sachs 10,000 Small Businesses. Phil brings nearly fifty years of entrepreneurial experience and decades of mentoring business owners who want more than revenue. They want real wealth, real options, and a business that thrives long after they are done running it. Phil breaks down the difference between growth and value, why most entrepreneurs underprice themselves, the mindset shifts that separate founders who succeed from founders who burn out, and the surprising truth about cash flow versus profit. This conversation will challenge how you think about your business and provide a more straightforward path to long-term success. Key Takeaways→ Why most founders start with passion instead of financial literacy, and how that slows growth→ The surprising reason cash flow problems are often solved without raising capital→ The mindset upgrades every entrepreneur needs, including gratitude, risk tolerance, and self-awareness→ The fundamental difference between growing revenue and building a business that someone will buy→ Why pricing should always align with value and how undercharging often signals a confidence issue→ How to prepare your business for exit long before you think you need to Featured Quote from Phil“We exist because the customer gives us cash, but we live in the margin. That is what separates one business from another.” Listen and learn why margins, mindset, and mastery of your numbers determine the future of your business.  Subscribe, rate, and share this episode with another business owner who wants to build wealth, not just revenue. Connect with Phil on LinkedIn:   https://www.linkedin.com/in/philzuckerman Connect with Jack on LinkedIn Please share, like, and subscribe! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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