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Ever felt like you need to “get your life together” before you can approach God? We’ve been there. We start light—snow days, sleep struggles, and the comfort of old radio voices—then head straight into the heart of it: why so many people stall out spiritually because they don’t feel good enough, smart enough, or clean enough to belong. We share real stories of showing up to church in work gear, hats, and messy moods, and why a culture of belonging beats a culture of performance every time.

From there, we dig into honest questions about faith and reason. What if you’re wrestling with the virgin birth, the Big Bang, or the existence of God at all? We talk through design, history, and testimonies, and we land where transformation always lands: the deepest evidence is the change you see in yourself when you start to seek. The Bible is a living word; the same passage can cut a new path in your life ten years from now. That’s how faith matures—through daily trust, not perfect answers.

We also tackle the habit of Googling our fears. Instead of spiraling through worst-case scenarios, we practice pausing for prayer, asking for peace and wisdom, and letting Scripture steady our steps. Come as you are doesn’t mean stay as you are; growth follows relationship. The disciples weren’t polished—they were called. So are you. Take one step: open the Word, ask your question, and let God meet you where you actually are.

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Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_04 (01:14):
Red light's on.
That means we're on.
Red light, green light.
And the green light's notblinking.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21):
It's not.

SPEAKER_04 (01:22):
You haven't touched it yet.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23):
Yeah.
About that.

SPEAKER_04 (01:27):
Yeah.
Well, it'll be all right.
Hey, you're still in thelearning stage.

SPEAKER_00 (01:32):
I shouldn't be.

SPEAKER_04 (01:35):
I would be.
I know how to turn it on.
That's about it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:38):
I was.
Have you guys watched the middlebefore?
It's um it's like a comedy.
Like I'm trying to think who'sin it.
The wife off of Everybody LovesRaymond.
So it's her as the wife, andthen she's got this real tall
guy as a, I don't know, youknow, a husband, and then they
have three kids, but she she'sgot like these two great aunts

(02:02):
that she has to go and justcheck up on every couple days.
And the one's kind of gettingdementia, but she's the one
passed away, I think, but theone is now getting dementia, and
she's like, oh man, you know,what do we do?
She's got this phone and thesenumbers, it's like one through
nine, you know, and but thesenumbers are so big.
I mean, it's probably like apost-it note size, and she's got

(02:26):
their pictures, like, okay, ifyou need me, I'm this, you know,
this little button right here.
And if you need, you just hit myyou hit my face and it'll call
me.
And she's telling her, and soshe's like tapping her forehead,
like, why aren't you answering?
She's like, No, I didn't meanshe's like, never mind, I'll see
you next week.
It's funny, it's it's uh justsomething to watch.

SPEAKER_04 (02:48):
Yeah, but doesn't have any murder in it.
No, no, no.
That's good.

SPEAKER_00 (02:53):
Not not yet.
No, no, not yet.
Nick, the we're doing come asyou are.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (03:02):
I don't know.
You didn't text me.
Roger.

SPEAKER_00 (03:07):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (03:09):
You're in the groove text, Roger.

SPEAKER_00 (03:11):
We're gonna have to like come on now.

SPEAKER_04 (03:13):
Come on now.
I probably saw it and justskimmed over.

SPEAKER_00 (03:17):
He probably, well, let's put it this way.
He goes, Nick's sick?
I'm like, no, Nick's on his way.
He's like, oh, Beth's sick.
Yeah.
So he doesn't have your phonenumbers.
He doesn't have your phonenumbers in there.
I need your face on there.
Yeah, so Beth is not with ustoday because she's sick.

(03:37):
So I'll have to be praying forher.

SPEAKER_06 (03:40):
Also, that time of year.
Here it comes.
Yeah, yeah.
Trying to avoid it.

SPEAKER_04 (03:48):
What the snow?

SPEAKER_06 (03:49):
Well, yeah, snow, sickness.

SPEAKER_00 (03:53):
Everything until April or May.

SPEAKER_06 (03:55):
Yep.
Six months of winter.

SPEAKER_00 (03:57):
Well, I mean, why why do we live here?
Seriously.

SPEAKER_06 (04:01):
Like for those times when she treats us nice.

unknown (04:04):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (04:04):
Like a bad relationship.
For those times when he treatsus nice.

SPEAKER_00 (04:07):
Yeah, and like what times?
Like our sports aren't the best,you know.
Like if you're a sports fan,like we we're not by, you know,
uh an ocean.
We do have the Great Lakes thatit could be nice, but it's two
hours away from us minimum.
Like, why do we live here?

SPEAKER_04 (04:22):
Well, yeah, but why do people go 18 hours to Florida
or to North Carolina to go tothe beach?

SPEAKER_00 (04:28):
Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_06 (04:30):
I don't think I'd want to live in Florida.

SPEAKER_00 (04:32):
No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_06 (04:33):
I do like the seasons.

unknown (04:34):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (04:35):
Just the seasons have gotten well.
It's like we've got almost along summer, long winter.
Yeah, yes.

SPEAKER_00 (04:43):
It's like a day and going tomorrow.
Yeah, like a week, if that.
Like yeah, I I like all of theseasons.

SPEAKER_06 (04:51):
Like this this summer I thought was pretty hot
overall.
Like it stayed hot for a longtime and it quit raining.
Dry.
And now since fall got here,it's like all it's done is rain.
And it's been cold and damp andit's already snowed.
We had our first snowfall, what?
Mun Monday?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (05:10):
Yeah, Monday.

SPEAKER_04 (05:12):
So yeah.
My my my daughter-in-law andgrandson, they were they were
upset.

unknown (05:17):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (05:17):
Because they like the snow.

SPEAKER_00 (05:18):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (05:20):
My son says, they're nuts.

SPEAKER_06 (05:23):
I like if I'm indoors.

SPEAKER_00 (05:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (05:26):
I love it from the inside looking out.

SPEAKER_00 (05:28):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (05:29):
Oh, when when I love it.
When I lived in town, when itsnowed a lot, I'd just bundle up
and just take a walk the streetbecause it was nice and quiet.

SPEAKER_00 (05:36):
You know what my favorite part?
The snow at night under lights.
Like it just the the the streetlights when they're on and the
snow's glistening, likeglistening down.
It's so pretty.
And yeah, just walking likethere's nobody on the street,
you know.

SPEAKER_03 (05:52):
Everybody, oh I don't want to drive.
I'm gonna slide.

SPEAKER_00 (05:56):
It gives me like a like a childhood memory because
I had a neighbor like two blocksdown, two and a half.
And so say we knew there was asnow day by like 6 30 or 7.
Like we were all hanging out onour side street, just like
walking from house to house orhanging out by the junior high,
just like sledding with thesleds on the road.
Like when it was it was fun.

(06:18):
So grandma, we weren't in theroad.
No, we weren't in the we weren'tin the road.

SPEAKER_04 (06:24):
She's got her fingers crossed, grandma.

SPEAKER_00 (06:26):
Whoops.
Right.
Yes.

SPEAKER_04 (06:32):
Yeah, life, life was great when you were a kid.
Yeah.
Really, it was.
It was.
I mean, you know, if you had,you know, no, no, no
responsibility.

SPEAKER_00 (06:42):
Uh-huh.
And then you were you werealways like, can't wait to grow
up.
You're like, no.

SPEAKER_04 (06:45):
Yeah, no, I know I wish I was a kid.

unknown (06:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (06:48):
I mean, you know, it just I wish I had people to tell
me you have to do this and youhave to do that, like at certain
times.

SPEAKER_06 (06:54):
I wish somebody would put me to bed.

unknown (06:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (06:56):
You know.
Like, it's your bedtime, get upthere.
Yes.

unknown (07:01):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (07:02):
Yeah.
Because now it's like you can'tget to bed no matter what you
do.
I'm going to bed at eight.
Nope.
Nope.
It's nine.
Nope.
It's ten.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (07:11):
My my max is ten.
That's it.
That's that's the cutoff point.

SPEAKER_00 (07:16):
No.
That's my minimum.
Not good.
And I'm never like a night nightowl.
Like I'm not in the middle ofthe morning, you know, 1 a.m., 2
a.m.
falling asleep.
But seems like 11 15 is when myyour clock turns off.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (07:34):
Like my head Your pie your power runs out.

SPEAKER_00 (07:36):
Yep.
Like I'll just like if it's 10o'clock and I'm in bed, that's a
good night for me.
But most of the time it's nottill 10 40, 10 45.
But I also wake up later thanNick, you know, probably than
you, Roger.

SPEAKER_04 (07:50):
Yeah.
No, not I used to.
I used to be at 4 o'clock, butnow I now I'm lucky to get up at
6 30.

SPEAKER_05 (07:57):
Yeah.

unknown (07:58):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (07:58):
Yeah, that alarm goes off at 4 30.
Yeah.
So even if I get to bed at, youknow, if I get to bed at 9 30,
that's seven hours.
And that's even hard to do toget to bed at 9 30.

SPEAKER_02 (08:11):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 (08:12):
Then the later it is, the less sleepy it is.
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (08:15):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 (08:15):
Yep.

SPEAKER_04 (08:16):
And you start thinking about it.
Yeah.
And then you can't go to sleepall men and then you just have
to come as you are.

SPEAKER_06 (08:22):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (08:22):
Exactly.
Tired and disgruntled.
Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 (08:29):
Yeah.
Ready or not, here I come.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (08:34):
Yep.
So just for a disclaimer, we arenot discussing the Nirvana song.
For any of those who may wonder.

SPEAKER_00 (08:44):
Did you know there's a Christian song?
Crowder's got a Christian song.

SPEAKER_06 (08:48):
Called Come As You Are?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (08:50):
I don't know it.

SPEAKER_06 (08:52):
I don't either.

SPEAKER_04 (08:53):
I think I've heard it once, but I don't really
wonder if Michael likes it.

SPEAKER_00 (08:57):
Michael, do you like it?
Let us know in the commentsbelow.
Let us know if you even listento us anymore.

SPEAKER_04 (09:03):
He don't like Crowder.

SPEAKER_00 (09:04):
Yeah, I know.
The one in the morning.
It was like they were on myradio and I uh I knew he didn't
like them.
And I sent a video and said,Happy Friday.
And said, Here's some Crowderfor you.
And he like puked my message.
Like you can react to messages,Roger.

(09:25):
Like you can either like it,dislike it, laugh.
Pretty much anything.
Like anything.
And he puked at mine.

SPEAKER_04 (09:32):
He like well evidently he didn't like it.

SPEAKER_00 (09:35):
Yeah.
Apparently not.

SPEAKER_04 (09:38):
So you know, you you talk as cum as you are, you
know, you can come to church asyou are.
Like when I when I was workingfor Denison Bridge.
Well, uh yeah, I was working forthis construction company.
And in the wintertime, like Iwould come to church I would
come to Wednesday night servicesand I would have my coveralls on

(09:59):
and they would smell like dieselfuel.
And you know, you're stillwelcome.
You're still welcome.
Don't make any difference.
Don't make any difference whatyou're looking like or what
you've got on.
Yes, yes.
That's like we got we've got ayoung couple that just started
coming, you know.
And uh the husband he's keepscomplaining about his about his

(10:22):
shoes.
He says they're not he saysthey're not shirt church boots.
Uh-huh.
And I said, Don't make anydifference, man.
You know, you can come in yoursocks or no shoes at all.

SPEAKER_00 (10:32):
Especially here.
Yeah.
We don't care.

SPEAKER_04 (10:34):
I mean it's yeah.
It's no nobody judges you forwhat you've got on or the way
you look.

SPEAKER_00 (10:39):
Nope.

SPEAKER_04 (10:40):
You know.

SPEAKER_00 (10:40):
I I mean I don't and I feel like all the men's boots,
like they're not comfortable,like the nicer, the church
boots, you know what I mean?
Like that you're imagining rightnow.
Like, why would you want to wearthose anyway?
They're not gonna becomfortable, you know?
I see what he's saying.
Oh, yeah, but yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (10:57):
Yeah, that's true, because my my my church boots by
the time I get home I can'treally walk.

SPEAKER_00 (11:01):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (11:04):
Well, my tennis usually is the same way, so it
don't make any difference what Iwear.

unknown (11:09):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (11:09):
I can't go on my bare feet or just socks.

SPEAKER_00 (11:13):
No.

SPEAKER_04 (11:14):
So I just suffer.
No, I don't I don't suffer.

SPEAKER_00 (11:21):
No, that's a good point though, like coming as you
are, because it I feel like weare very welcome with that, like
at this church.
And I feel like m a lot ofchurches need to be like that.
Like, you know, Chase stillwears a hat, you know, and I
mean Yeah, he's not the onlyone.
No, no, you know, and and Ithink that's another one, like

(11:41):
that like a lot of people thatlet's just say they haven't been
to church in 15, 10 years, youknow, like they don't realize
that how much has changed.
Yeah, like yeah, like the churchis changing with the world, like
to accommodate somewhat, right?
But also it's not so formal.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

(12:02):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (12:03):
Yeah.
A lot of the formality.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (12:06):
Oh yeah, when you know when I mean I can remember
well, I have we have I have somepictures of like Easter Sunday
when I was like maybe eight,nine.
Man, I'm all I'm doted up.
You know, I got I got the suit,I got the hat on.
I mean, you know, I'm lookinggood.

SPEAKER_02 (12:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (12:26):
But you know, that was back then, you know.
My my sister, she had a realnice dress on.
She had a little hat and glovesand a purse, you know.
And that's that's way back inthe 60s.
But of course.

SPEAKER_06 (12:40):
You know, there was a point in time where every male
wore like, you know, a dressshirt, tie, and males wore hats
like fedoras.
And you know, if you look at alot of the pictures from 20s
through the 40s, even throughthe 50s, a lot of men you didn't
really leave the house or goanywhere unless you were dressed

(13:02):
up.
Yeah, you had it dressed up.
No, you didn't see guys walkingaround in shorts and a t-shirt
and flip-flops.
No.
It just didn't happen.
Like men just weren't built thatway back then.
Because everything back thenwas, I think, pretty formal.
And you know, so but now it'scome as you are.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (13:21):
I mean, as long as you get as long as you're as
long as you are covereddecently, yeah, what makes a
difference.
Yeah.
You know.
Because I got a pair of thosesocks, like you, you got you got
the Abraham Lincoln socks.
Yeah.
Well, mine's got tools on them.
So I told Beth, I told Pastor, Isays, I'm gonna wear my Daisy

(13:43):
Duke shorts and my boots and mylong socks next Sunday.

SPEAKER_02 (13:49):
Oh man.

SPEAKER_04 (13:52):
He says, uh, that wouldn't be a good idea.

SPEAKER_00 (13:54):
Michael's like, I'm not coming next Sunday.

SPEAKER_04 (13:55):
I said, I said Yeah, I don't think it would be
either.

SPEAKER_06 (13:58):
I think it was Holly Shore and son-in-law.
Yeah.
I forget where they're going,but he he cut the cowboy boots
down to the Oh, they were theywere going to a uh a uh uh a
dance like at the at the like abarn dance.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But he cut the the boots all theway down to the you know, like

(14:19):
the ankle.
Yeah.
So they almost look like well,dress shoes, but that was his
idea of, you know.

SPEAKER_04 (14:28):
He was he was trying to fit in.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (14:30):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (14:30):
You know, he and here you don't have to fit in.
Well, you know, as long asyou're here for one reason, you
know, to praise the Lord and toworship him and to fellowship
with like believers, that's allyou need.

SPEAKER_00 (14:42):
Amen.

SPEAKER_04 (14:42):
Yeah, you know.
You don't need a you don't needa suit and tie and a hat, dress
coat.
Because it's not necessary.

SPEAKER_02 (14:53):
No.

SPEAKER_04 (14:54):
But if that's the way you want to dress, if that's
if that's what you're powering,if it's if that's your if that's
your forte, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (15:03):
Whatever you're most comfortable in, whatever you you
feel like.

SPEAKER_04 (15:06):
Whatever, whenever whatever you most you feel is is
is is you.

SPEAKER_00 (15:10):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (15:10):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (15:11):
So yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (15:16):
Yeah, I like that kind of thing personally.
Yeah.
I like I like getting I likegetting dressed up with a suit
tie, and that's not I'm notuncomfortable for me.

SPEAKER_04 (15:24):
For a lot of people, it's like yeah, it's it's not
uncomfortable for me either.

SPEAKER_06 (15:28):
I just I like it.
But yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (15:30):
I just got so many different colored shirts, I
don't know which one to wear.
I don't know which one looksright with this color suit.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Oh, and then the last time Iwore a tie, well, my wife didn't
pick it out for me, andevidently it was the wrong one.
Yeah.
It was still green.
Had green in it.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (15:51):
Probably the wrong green, Roger.

SPEAKER_04 (15:53):
No, it was it was close to the, but hey.

SPEAKER_06 (15:57):
You know, was it wide enough?
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (15:59):
That's the reason that's the reason I wine.
That's the reason I reallydon't, you know, get dressed up
too much to come to churchbecause she's not awake to say
that doesn't work, that doesn'tlook right.

SPEAKER_00 (16:10):
So well, if you figure out how to send pictures,
you can send it to me and say,Does this look okay, Sid?
I'm thinking of this tonight.
Does this look okay?
Yeah.
Uh yes.
Like a a fashion stylist oryeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (16:32):
There you go.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (16:33):
Something.

SPEAKER_04 (16:34):
Yeah.
I'm styling all right.
Styling right out the door.

SPEAKER_00 (16:39):
Now, the podcast you were listening to, Nick, that
this sparked the idea from.
No, were you?
Were they coming?
Oh, it wasn't a podcast.
Oh.

SPEAKER_06 (16:48):
Every Friday I listen to Top 40 with Casey Case
and the old like on YouTube, youcan get the old broadcast.

SPEAKER_00 (16:59):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 (17:00):
Like the 80s.
So every Friday.
It's not old.

SPEAKER_05 (17:02):
So well, think about it though.

SPEAKER_04 (17:04):
I mean, it's it's 20 years, I guess.
Twenty-five.

SPEAKER_00 (17:08):
Forty-five.

SPEAKER_06 (17:09):
Yeah, forty-five.
If you're thinking 35 to 45years old.

SPEAKER_04 (17:15):
Yeah, I'm not good at math either.

SPEAKER_00 (17:18):
It feels like it's that, you know.

SPEAKER_06 (17:20):
It doesn't seem that long ago.
But when you yeah, it's it'skind of scary.
But that's my vibe on Fridays,is I'll just, I'll just up on
YouTube in my office, I'll justfind one I haven't listened to
and I'll put it up because justthe sound of his voice kind of
like brings me back tochildhood.

SPEAKER_00 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (17:37):
I'd be riding around in the car with my parents and
they'd always be listening toit.
And yeah.
So it's just a kind of like avibe for me on Fridays to do it.
And he he was now I don't knowwho he was talking about.
I missed I missed the beginningof it.
But he was talking about amusician.
And he was talking about why hebecame a musician.

(18:00):
And whoever this was, they saidI was too I wasn't good enough
for God, I wasn't bad enough forthe devil.
So I went with rock and roll.

SPEAKER_04 (18:16):
You know, I I I I heard I've heard that I've heard
that statement.
I forget where it was at.
And I mean it's just been withinthe last, I don't know, maybe
last week.

SPEAKER_06 (18:30):
Yeah, so who was it who wasn't good enough for God.
Who was the artist?
Too bad.
I don't know.
I missed the like the beginning,who he was talking about.
But I just heard him say thatand it instantly just like
clicked with me.
Like, there's a lot of peoplefor you.
Maybe the way that they think,if they're if they're thinking

(18:51):
about going to church or comingto God, a lot of people will
just be like, Well, I'm not goodenough for God.
And but you know, yeah, I knowI'm not bad enough for the
devil.
So I just I just go in between.
You know, I just I just find mycomfort zone in between, try to
stay out of trouble, just try tobe a good person.

(19:13):
Yeah.
Or in this person's case, I justchoose rock and roll, somewhere
in the middle.
Yeah.
And it just made me think, like,okay, yeah, that's why a lot of
people never take that step.
Is because they think I'm justnot good enough to go to the
Lord.
Well, you don't you think it'sfear?
I don't know if it's alwaysfear.
I maybe in inferiority, likelike you just feel inferior to

(19:37):
it because whether you haveguilt over some of the things
you've done in your life,whether you you've got maybe
like you know, you know you havea problem with alcohol or you
have a problem with gambling, ifyou have you just know you have
a problem, and you just don'tthink you can go forward to God

(20:00):
until until you get somethingunder control.
I'm gonna figure it out myself.
So until then, until I get thisfigured out, you know, I'm just
gonna, you know, I can't come toGod that way.
Yeah.
So I'm sure fear could play intoit.
Yeah.
But I think a lot of times Ithink people just think that,
oh, you know, it can't helpsomebody like me.

(20:22):
Like I've either done too muchor or haven't done enough to
deserve that or to seek thatrelationship.
So they'll just, like I said,they'll just ride in the middle.

SPEAKER_00 (20:33):
And yeah, but but little do they know, like most
of the time those bad thingsthat you used to do or whatever
it may be, more than likelyturns into part of your
testimony and makes it even morestronger and makes you be able
to relate with more people andquote unquote pull them in and

(20:55):
you know, tell them about Jesus.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (20:58):
Oh, absolutely.
And what he did with you.
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (21:01):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (21:02):
But that's hard to do, I think, sometimes until you
get in that sort of and and findout, like, oh, I'm not the only
one.
You're right.
You know, everybody hasproblems.
Right.
Everybody's, you know, hadsituations in their life,
nobody's perfect.
Yeah.
And that could be also maybethey've been judged by Probably
somebody who is religious.

SPEAKER_00 (21:24):
Well, and I mean religion, let's just face it.
Like the word, like a lot of thetimes with that word, like
people think, you know, yougotta be stuck up and you gotta
be prim and proper to show upSunday morning.
Like that's just what culturethinks a lot of the times.
Like you don't you don't have tothink it yourself, like that's
what culture is telling them tothink about it.

SPEAKER_06 (21:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (21:47):
Yeah.
I saw someone say, you know, doyou whenever you're getting
ready for a shower?
Like, do you clean up before youget in the shower?

SPEAKER_06 (21:59):
Pre-shower?

SPEAKER_00 (22:00):
Yeah, like do you have a pre-shower before the
shower?
Like, no, you get in the showerto get clean.
Like, you don't clean before youget in the shower.
Yeah.
You know, it's kind of likethat.

SPEAKER_06 (22:11):
Okay.
Well, sometimes your wife willsay, take your boots off.

SPEAKER_00 (22:15):
Well, yeah.
I mean, there are you have tothere are times Chase is in a
sewer and he doesn't even comeinto the house.
Like, I don't tell him, hey,like he's always done that.
Like, hey, I gotta strip downreal quick.

SPEAKER_04 (22:27):
Oh, uh believe me, I've I've stripped, I've I have
stripped down on the porch.
Of course, where I live, youknow, they nobody can see it,
but yeah, it's animals.

SPEAKER_00 (22:38):
But and normally it's like the mud room or
something.
I'm like, whatever.

SPEAKER_04 (22:40):
Oh no, I gotta do it outside.
I can't even if I'm I'm serious.
I mean if I if I worked witharound diesel fuel, cannot stand
the smell of that.
Yeah.
And it's you know, it just kindof permeates your your clothes.
Outside.
Yep.
So, you know, take your bootsoff, take your coat off, take

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your shirt off, take your pantsoff, run in the house, jump in
the shower right away.

SPEAKER_00 (23:07):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (23:08):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (23:09):
Well, and it's like, you know, say you are struggling
with something and you'rethinking, oh, well, I I need to
figure this out before I canturn it over and quote unquote
become a better person orsomething.
Yeah, but how can if you can'tdo it without his help, so you
might as well give it to himearly and then work it out
through those days anddifficulties with him.

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Because if you don't have it,like work it out with him as
you're going to church.
Like that'll only help matter.
You know, like and guess what?

SPEAKER_06 (23:37):
He already knows anyway.

SPEAKER_00 (23:38):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (23:39):
Like he already knows you're not hiding anything
from because you can't.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (23:43):
And you're like, no matter how clean you're trying
to be, and say you do quitsmoking or do quit drinking and
are able to come, like, he'sstill gonna look at you as like
kind of filthy because you'refull of sin.
You know what I mean?
Like he's gonna love you and youknow, welcome you in open arms
regardless, but you're stillgoing to be like full of filthy
sin regardless.

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So yeah, you might as well justcome with all of it.

SPEAKER_06 (24:08):
Yeah, it's foolish just to think that you know
you're gonna walk into church.
Yeah, you you might deceive thepeople, the people walk in all
nice and shiny, and but youyou're never gonna deceive God
anyhow.
So if you're waiting because youyou feel you're you know
inferior and you're just not upto it yet, or you haven't

(24:28):
reached that level that you feelyou need to reach, it's a waste
of time.
You're just wasting time.
Another thing that kind of I wasthinking about is because Timmy
and his wife Emily and my wifeand I, and my stepson Charlie
and Seth, we all had a Biblestudy this past Monday.
Timmy and Emily came to thehouse with the kids, and so we

(24:51):
just had like a little hourBible study.
Yeah.
And we just started in Matthew.
Okay.
Um, because Charlie, he's he'skind of on the fence, and the
main reason I think he's on thefence is because he wants he
doesn't he doesn't understandhow God is possible.

SPEAKER_00 (25:09):
So Charlie was there?

SPEAKER_06 (25:11):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (25:11):
That's good.
Yeah.
Was Seth there?

SPEAKER_06 (25:14):
Yep.

SPEAKER_00 (25:14):
Okay.

SPEAKER_06 (25:15):
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Of course, you know, Seth comesto church.
So he he's you know, he he's gotsome of it figured out.
But early, he's he said he's onthe fence because he just
doesn't understand how God couldbe possible.
You know, when we start talkingabout how he created the earth
and everything that goes intothat, and all the you know, the
power that God has, and you justand and we of course kicking it

(25:37):
off with Matthew, you know,we're talking about Mary being a
virgin, you know, having achild.
So he's like, that's impossible.
And he's like, Yeah, how is thateven like possible?
You know, and and that's athat's when you have to answer
that question, you realize that,well, you can't give somebody a
rational answer.

SPEAKER_04 (25:59):
Yeah, you can't tell them, well, you know, you have
to figure it out your they'vehad they have to figure it out.
They have to they have to findfind their their way to
rationalize things.
Yep.
And to to allow the Holy Spiritto come in and actually show
them, you know, and and let thembe able to figure it out and

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understand it.

SPEAKER_06 (26:22):
Yeah, you have to develop that faith through trust
and understanding of God andjust realizing that it's not for
us to know all those things.
Yeah, right.
That's not the knowing of thosethings is not important to our
faith.
Yeah.
We don't have to have all theanswers to the universe.

SPEAKER_00 (26:41):
No.

SPEAKER_06 (26:42):
In order to have faith in God.

SPEAKER_00 (26:43):
Yeah, and we're not going to have all the answers
either.

SPEAKER_06 (26:47):
Like no.
No.
And that's what I was trying totell Charlie.
I said, you know, a lot ofpeople are in your same
situation where they're theywill decide either not to pursue
a relationship with God, oragain, they've got a lot of
questions, and until they getthose questions answered, they

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they're not gonna go forward.
Yeah, they're not gonna go allin because they've got doubts
about how could all how couldthis universe as God created it
be possible?
You know, they would ratherbelieve you know the big bang
theory, something to thateffect, because that sounds more
plausible.

SPEAKER_04 (27:27):
But you gotta look at it this way.
Who created the big bang theory?
Did God right God could havecreated the big bang theory.
You know, he could have he couldhave collided a couple planets
together.
One maybe that had a lot ofwater, the other one had the

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seasons to make it when you makethe genus.

SPEAKER_06 (27:53):
He doesn't go step by step by step all the
ingredients that went into this.
It's you know, he it's just amatter of fact.
He created the earth, moon, thestars, the whole, you know.
It's very matter-of fact.
Yes.
You're not getting all the youknow, ingredients and details
and science of it all.

SPEAKER_04 (28:11):
Yeah, it's not a one, two, three thing.

SPEAKER_06 (28:13):
No, but that's what but that's what people want.
Yeah, they want to see like howcould how how could there be a
God that somehow just developedand created this whole earth.

SPEAKER_00 (28:28):
It's just baffling to me about the Big Bang Theory
of people thinking and I'm notsaying it wasn't real, you know,
but I'm like, because I don'tknow.
I mean, I'm kind of more likeRoger, like maybe God created
the big, you know, the Big BangTheory.
Like, but we have a Bible withthousands and thousands and
thousands of articles that takesus clear back until these times.

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Like, this is so many pieces ofhistory and evidence that
nothing else has.
Like the Big Bang Theory doesnot have all of this that has
survived through how manydifferent generations, how many
different you know,civilizations, like nothing else
has that besides Christianity.

SPEAKER_06 (29:07):
Right.
Like, yep.
So well, and as Timmy was tryingto explain to Charlie, says,
when you think about it, whenyou think about the human eye,
just the human eye, he said, andall of the different things
going on in it going on in theeye, and all the all the matter
behind it, all the things thathave to work perfectly for your

(29:29):
eye to see, he says, is is awonder in itself.
And that's just your eye.

SPEAKER_00 (29:35):
Yeah, that's it that let alone the whole body.

SPEAKER_06 (29:37):
How can you now how can you say that this was a
matter of this big bang justhappening?
And all of a sudden we crawl wecrawled out of the ocean.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
And and the eye is intricate asit is.
But there again just was justchance.

SPEAKER_04 (29:55):
But there again, who created those animals that were
in it?
You know, yeah.
You have to you have to look atthat.
You know, who create who createdthe dinosaurs?
You know, maybe God, maybe Godput you know, he put those on
earth to what do I want to saymake ground fertile so that when

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you know he put man on therethat that they could grow food
to to support themselves.

SPEAKER_02 (30:24):
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (30:25):
I mean, you know, if you go back big, you know, yeah,
it's well and there's just everyeverything everything everything
leads back to God.

SPEAKER_00 (30:33):
Yeah.
I mean, this isn't all for likewith the topic, but I'm glad
we're going down it.
But even like the, you know,there's so many stories about
people that have gone to heavenor even gone to hell and then
woken back up, and like they areso similar in their stories.
And I'm talking like this childwas three years old, and then

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they're talking to someone elsethat had the same, you know,
experience in seven years ago,and they were four years old,
you know, like come come like Ithink one was from United States
and one was from England.
Like they don't have anycorrelation, yet whatever they
described was identical.

SPEAKER_04 (31:12):
Well, that was that was like that's not a
coincidence.
Wasn't that the the the littleboy and the little girl?
The little girl drew a pictureof of Jesus.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (31:20):
And she was like, hey, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (31:22):
And when when he woke when he woke up, something
about uh his he said he's seenJesus and then and his his they
had a picture of of Jesus in thein the ho in the yeah hotel
room.
Hospital.

SPEAKER_00 (31:33):
Mm-hmm.
And he's like, No, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 (31:35):
He said that's not him.

SPEAKER_00 (31:36):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (31:37):
But then the little girl, the picture that she that
she drew of of Jesus.
He says, Yeah, that's Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 (31:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (31:45):
You know, so we don't we don't know what we
don't know what Jesus lookslike, you know.

SPEAKER_00 (31:49):
So it just we're not supposed to.
Well no, you know, and maybewe're not supposed to because of
this, you know.

SPEAKER_06 (31:58):
I mean the whole the whole process of dreams, you
know, that every every humanthrough all time has has is able
to dream and just everythingthat goes behind that, and we
all know that dreams have been aare a part of the Bible, right?
And we're you know, where Godand angels have come to man

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through dreams to tell prophecy,messages, everything like that.
To write the Bible.
Just the fact that we dream andthe whole process of that and
the whole meaning behind that.
Yep.
Yeah, it's it's only somethingthat and that's the thing, it's
only something as far as we knowthat humans experience.

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Sorry, but now I'm intrigued bymy wife's text.
She says, I'm coming to get thetruck.
I'll leave the keys in the car,I have the spare keys to the
truck.
Why is she coming to get thetruck?
What has she done now?

SPEAKER_04 (32:56):
She is by she has bought something that won't fit
in the car.

SPEAKER_00 (33:00):
She is coming as she can to get more.

SPEAKER_04 (33:04):
She's coming as she is, as she are.

SPEAKER_00 (33:07):
Ready or not?
Here I come.

SPEAKER_06 (33:10):
If that's the case, I will be going as I am.
Did you ask?
Not coming back.

SPEAKER_00 (33:16):
Did you say what did you do now?

SPEAKER_06 (33:18):
No, I'm just gonna I'm gonna wait and see.
No, man.

SPEAKER_04 (33:21):
You want you want the surprise.

SPEAKER_06 (33:23):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (33:24):
Oh man.
Are you sure you want thesurprise?

SPEAKER_04 (33:26):
No, probably not, but it's got it's something big.
And it's it's it's Christmasdecorations.
Could be.
Either that or she bought hernew house or something.

SPEAKER_06 (33:37):
Because the other intriguing factor here is that
my sister-in-law sent anattachment.
The only time she sends usattachments is when it's about
Christmas decorations.
Something's on sale.
Christmas decorations.
Christmas decorations on sale.

SPEAKER_00 (33:53):
Your sister-in-law.

SPEAKER_06 (33:54):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (33:55):
Her sister?

SPEAKER_06 (33:56):
Well, do I got that right?
So her brother's wife.

SPEAKER_04 (34:02):
So that would be your sister-in-law.

SPEAKER_00 (34:03):
Okay.
I was trying to figure out whoyou were talking about.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (34:06):
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (34:07):
Okay.
So our sister's not going to beable to do it.

SPEAKER_06 (34:10):
The only time she sends us, yes.
Attachments is when because shelike just looks for stuff for
us.
She just likes, you know.

SPEAKER_04 (34:18):
She likes spending your money.
Yeah, yeah.
She wants to see you work.

SPEAKER_06 (34:22):
Enjoys other people spending their money.
So we'll see.
I'll just leave it.
See what happens here.

SPEAKER_04 (34:30):
Intriguing.
Big secret.
Secret agent man.

SPEAKER_06 (34:39):
Oh man.
Well.
Well, we got a little off topichere.
We did.

SPEAKER_05 (34:45):
But do we that's okay?

SPEAKER_06 (34:47):
Two or three times.
Because sometimes we cover itwithout covering it.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (34:51):
You know.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (34:53):
But uh you just gotta love everybody the way
they are.
You know, sometimes they can'thelp it.

SPEAKER_06 (35:03):
And that's what God does.
And that's why He doesn't wantyou to wait.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (35:07):
I wanted to bring up though.
Come as you are, but don't staythat way.
Yeah, yeah.
Grow that relationship.
Don't make it like because whenyou start to grow that
relationship, you will want tochange the way that you are.
Like, let's say you're analcoholic.
You will want to be betterbecause you're like, wow, this
guy that didn't even know medied for my sins on this cross,

(35:32):
carried all of our sins, didn'teven know me, you know, like and
he wants me to be better.

SPEAKER_06 (35:38):
And once you believe it, once you take it into your
heart, then you see, as I wassaying, people are always they
want they always want theseanswers to these mysteries of
the world and of life and earthand of God.
But surprise.
But once yeah, but once youstart following Jesus, you take
it into your heart.

(35:58):
The changes that you see inyourself are the proof.
Yeah.
That's that's when you reallystart to see God, is when you
see it within yourself.
Yes.
You know, you you'll you'll feelthe change, you'll see the
change, then you know God isreal, then you know you're on
the right path.

SPEAKER_00 (36:14):
You'll know the changes happening every day when
you're talking to him or in theword.
Like you don't have to bevocally talking to him.
You can be in the word.
You know, the other day, likeCooper's, I don't know.
I don't know what's going onwith him.
I don't know if he's just has asleep regression thing going on
where he doesn't want to sleep,or if he's actually sick.
There was like five differentthings that was going on, and

(36:35):
I'm like googling all thesethings, like diarrhea, just a
little bit, and then this rashon his face and all this stuff,
but I'm like, well, the rashcould be like googling is the
worst thing.

SPEAKER_06 (36:45):
Well, and that's the thing, you know.

SPEAKER_00 (36:46):
I'm like, I so I get into my devotion and it's like
basically saying it was talkingabout someone's testimony, and
then it was saying, you know,whenever this girl was sick, she
was younger and she had likepolio, I think.
And she's like, you know, thedoctors said that there wasn't
much that they could do.
They didn't have many answersfor my grandparents at the time.
They were like, What do we do?

(37:08):
You know, so they're like goinghome for the evening from the
hospital, and the grandparentsjust pulled over, which would
have been the parents of the,you know, child, the sick child,
but they just started praying.
And I'm like, Yeah, that's whatI need to do.
Like, don't don't go to Google,don't go to WebMD first, don't
go to Chat GPT first, go to yourLord, your savior, and fight,

(37:32):
not even fight it out with him,just talk it out with him.
Like ask him all these thingsthat or even ask him, hey, if
that is this is something Ishould be worried about.
Like, if if it's not, just letme feel at peace about it.
And like he will more thanlikely give that to you.
Right.

SPEAKER_06 (37:46):
Yes, he'll give you the strength and wisdom and the
rest you need to deal withwhatever's yeah coming at you.
Yeah.
Yep.
If you that's the thing, if youfeed into the world and Google
everything, and that's the worstthing you can do is you got a
medical condition or a medicalconcern, you start Googling,
man.
Do you can you go to a rabbithole?

SPEAKER_00 (38:08):
Yeah, you're sicker than when you're starting like
you're well, my sister, she hadthyroid terminal.
Yeah, and shy, you know, aftershe had her two surgeries.
I don't know, it was like sixweeks or six months later, they
did more testing.
And, you know, of course, she'sgets on and can see the test
results before the doctor callsher when they tell you, don't
get on there.

(38:30):
Well, she gets on there, andthen she's Googling all these
medical terms that she's neverbeen to medical school.
She's not a nurse, she's neverbeen in the medical field, and
I'm like, don't get on there.
And she thinks she has it againor something.
No, no, you just you steppedthat boundary because we have
all that information anyway, sowe might as well just start.

SPEAKER_06 (38:51):
Yeah, you know.
Oh, yeah.
Once the mind starts working,yeah, you can make yourself
sick.

SPEAKER_04 (39:01):
No, we were when I was a kid, we were I was working
at the gas station, and we hadthis other fellow.
He wasn't he he was a nice guy,but he was just a little slow.
And we didn't mean this otherguy, we didn't want to work a
kid, we didn't want to work withhim.
So when we went in, we startedsaying, Boy, you look, you you

(39:22):
don't look too good.
You you don't you don't look toogood.
We actually talked him intobeing sick.
Yeah.
We actually talked him intobeing sick.
He told the boss, he says, Igotta go home, I'm sick.
The boss says, Okay.

SPEAKER_06 (39:35):
I could do that sometimes when people I know
somebody is sick around me, I'llall of a sudden start to feel
like, oh, I'm feeling feelingsomething here.
Yeah, might be getting it.
Or like if you're talking aboutlice or ticks or something,
you're like, then you startscratching and you're like, oh
man, do I have it?

SPEAKER_00 (39:51):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (39:52):
Yep.
So it's easy to do.

SPEAKER_04 (39:57):
So why don't why don't why don't we just why
don't we let the Lord do that?
Yeah, tell us something, andthen we just gotta keep going at
it, you know, and go further andfurther and further and further
and look more and look more andlook more in his word.

SPEAKER_06 (40:13):
Yep you know, instead of Yeah, why can't we
treat Jesus like Google?
Yeah, why can't we know?

SPEAKER_05 (40:19):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (40:21):
Yep.

SPEAKER_04 (40:22):
Google God.

SPEAKER_06 (40:24):
That's a good one.
But that is a great question, iswhy why as humans are we like
that?

SPEAKER_04 (40:32):
Why why we want to fit in?
We want to be like everybodyelse.

SPEAKER_00 (40:36):
Or we just want to know.

SPEAKER_06 (40:38):
But why do you believe this random thing is
going to tell you?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (40:43):
Not to mention, like, you know, Wikipedia, like
anyone can get on there and likeedit these facts about anything.
You know, if there's a Wikipediapage, you can get on there and I
don't know if it's still currentor not, but like in I remember
in high school they would say,do not use Wikipedia as a
resource because anyone can geton there and can change the

(41:05):
facts and make it false.
So you would have to use likedot net or dot org, like
different, you know, pages andwebsites.
But It's like, you know, you youjust googling something, and the
first thing that pops up, thatdoes not make it true.
If anything, that makes it falsebecause it's it came up so
quickly.
It's like, here's the nonsenseanswer, there you are.

(41:27):
Like, no.
I don't know.
Yeah, I I truly don't know whywe're so like naive enough to
gullible.
Yeah, yeah.
To believe it.
Yeah, yeah.
Gotta put on some wisdom.
Discernment.

SPEAKER_06 (41:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (41:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (41:47):
Yep.
But you can't get it if you'renot in the word.
If you're not in the word.
Yep.
And again, there's nothing everstopping you from just starting
to get into the word.
Yep.
Nobody can stop you from openingthis book.
Nothing in your life can stopyou from opening this book.
Nothing.

SPEAKER_04 (42:05):
There is one thing that can stop you.
Yourself.

SPEAKER_06 (42:07):
Yourself.
Yeah.
I mean, just like you don't,there's no you don't have to get
a ticket and wait.
Yeah.
There's no, you know, there's nothere's nobody, there's no line
to stand in.

SPEAKER_05 (42:19):
No.

SPEAKER_06 (42:20):
You know, there's no there's no there's no interview
or you know, you don't have tohand in a resume first, nothing.
All you gotta do is just find itand open it.
Yeah.
And you're in.
Doesn't matter again who youare, what you look like, where
you came from, where you thoughtyou were going, yeah, where you
want to go.

SPEAKER_00 (42:38):
You're locked in.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (42:40):
It's all you gotta do is want to seek it first.
You do and that's the main thingis you above anything else, you
have to do have the true desireto seek God.

SPEAKER_00 (42:49):
Yes.

SPEAKER_06 (42:50):
And once you do that, everything else moves,
everything else starts to moveforward.

SPEAKER_00 (42:56):
Yeah.
But you have to truly s want toseek Him first.

SPEAKER_06 (43:00):
Yeah.
You have to be like, yep, I'vetried everything else.
It's all you're doing.
It's not working.
You know, I put it off longenough.
And even if and and it's okaythat you have questions.
Yeah.
As I was saying, like withCharlie, it's okay that you have
those questions.
Any sensible human being wouldhave those questions.
Like, how could this bepossible?

(43:21):
And so don't, you know, feelguilty because you have those
questions, because you know, Istill have questions.

SPEAKER_00 (43:28):
Yeah, that's what I was about to say.

SPEAKER_06 (43:30):
You're always gonna have questions.
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (43:31):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (43:32):
So that that's no excuse, no reason not to get
into the word and see how it canchange your heart and change
your life.
There's it, and there's no, likeI said, there's no reason to
wait.
Because you, you know, that'spart of it, is you're you're
gonna be seeking.
You're always gonna be seekingdifferent, you know, answers to
questions that you have.

SPEAKER_00 (43:52):
And whatever you read now might not hit you until
20 years from now.
Exactly.
When you read that same passage.

SPEAKER_06 (43:58):
It may, one passage may hit you a certain way.

SPEAKER_00 (44:00):
Yep.
At one point in your life.

SPEAKER_06 (44:02):
And in 10 years, that same passage might mean
something completely different.
Yeah, they may give you adifferent answer to a different
problem.
Yep.
But that's that's what the Bibledoes.
That's why it's the living word.
Yes.
It's not, yes, it's full ofhistory, it comes from history,
so true.
But but like history in mostforms is just history.

(44:24):
Yeah.
Yeah, we can learn from it,sure.
But this is like the livingword.
Yeah, and like it can constantlychange.

SPEAKER_00 (44:31):
Yes, it's the same yesterday, today, and forever.
However, I don't think it's thesame for you in certain parts,
seasons of your life, like likewe were just saying, like you
spiritual maturity.
Exactly.
Or you know, something someblock that's standing in your
way and that you can't getthrough.

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That scripture might speak toyou more in ten years whenever
you're dealing with that certainblock rather than it did
yesterday, you know?

SPEAKER_06 (45:00):
Yeah.
And when we started that Biblestudy, we skipped over the first
part of Matthew where where itgoes through the family tree.
We're gonna just gonna skipthat.
Uh-huh.
And I said, Yep, I said, that'sgood.
I said, but just understand, Isaid, if you do read through all
those names, you will not findone perfect person in that
lineage from the first persontill we get Jesus.

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Yeah.
The only perfect person you'regonna find is at the end with
Jesus.
All the other people that makeit possible for him to come to
this earth, they all had flaws,but God still used them.
And he didn't wait until theywere ready, free and clear.

SPEAKER_00 (45:41):
And it's it's crazy, like, because I'm sure the
ending of your Bible study wasprobably, you know, him with all
these questions, like, you know,but it's like at the beginning
you almost answered it becausehere is this historical, you
know, passage that tells youfrom like, why do you think they
wrote down all these names?

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Yeah, it's just they wrote themdown for a reason, you know.

SPEAKER_06 (46:04):
Forward or backward in the book, it's all seamless.
It'll all come out the way it'ssupposed to.
You will not find the hole.
Or you won't.
That's what's incredible aboutit.
But yeah, so again, all thesepeople, you can have a hand in
it just as they did.
But you can have your flaws, youknow, because God's still God is

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going to use you if you if youjust open yourself up to it.
You know, God, God wants to useyou, he and He's not waiting on
you to be pristine before hedoes it.

SPEAKER_02 (46:35):
No, you know.

SPEAKER_06 (46:36):
So it's okay to have doubt, it's okay to have
questions.
You know.
That's just that's life initself, is to have questions, to
have doubts, to have fears, andbut the more you trust in the
word, the less, I think the lessof them you have.
You you you learn not to sweatthe small stuff.

SPEAKER_00 (46:54):
Yeah.
You know what I also picturelike when people are trying to
quote unquote get ready to be aChristian, or like I have to,
you know, I have to be betterbefore I can become a Christian.
Like I'm thinking, you know, youget these text messages like,
hey, you care if I because I getthem a lot recently since I have
Cooper.
Hey, you care if I swing by, I'min town, which I do genuinely

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appreciate them texting me,asking me that.
So it's like, oh crap, but thethe house is a mess, like, and
then I'm running around, youknow, frantically just trying to
clean up whatever I can.
But it's like that's what I'mpicturing.
Like you're going to try tohalf-ass everything.
Uh I mean, just so you canalmost look presentable, but

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it's like, yeah, I mean, no,yeah.
He doesn't care.

SPEAKER_06 (47:43):
And unfortunately, we we do have that behavior with
each other as human beings.
That's the way life works.
But God is one person that youdon't have to do that with.

SPEAKER_00 (47:53):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (47:54):
Because again, he sees it all anyway.

SPEAKER_00 (47:55):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (47:56):
You know, he knows you just tidied up.

unknown (47:58):
Right.

SPEAKER_06 (47:58):
Like if God walked through your front door, yeah,
he'd already seen you.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (48:03):
Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 (48:03):
So he's he saw the house before you.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (48:05):
So there's no point.
There's no point in doing that.
No.
You know, that's not what he'slooking for.

SPEAKER_05 (48:10):
No.

SPEAKER_04 (48:11):
You know what my grandmother used to say?
If they came to look at myhouse, they didn't come to see
me.

SPEAKER_00 (48:17):
Yep.
So true.
It's true though.
Yep.
I mean.
But you know, it's just partthat's just another thing about
being a human lady.
Yeah, it's just human behavior.

SPEAKER_06 (48:29):
Yeah, you can everybody make a good
impression.

SPEAKER_00 (48:32):
And most people tell you, it's fine, you know, you've
got a lot going on.
You have a baby.
And most people do genuinelymean that.
But then you're yeah, and thenyou're like, no, it's just your
body telling mind.

SPEAKER_04 (48:45):
It can't do that.
Yeah, just another weird thingthat us humans do.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (48:51):
We are a finicky bunch, or the human race.

SPEAKER_06 (48:58):
Yep.

SPEAKER_00 (48:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (49:02):
Always have been.
Always will be.

SPEAKER_00 (49:04):
Always will be.

SPEAKER_03 (49:07):
We'll just go the way we are.

SPEAKER_00 (49:10):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (49:11):
We will come as we are.

SPEAKER_00 (49:13):
Quick question.
I meant to ask you guys this.
Is this in the Bible anywhere?
Come as you are.
Like those words.

SPEAKER_04 (49:20):
I don't believe those exact words are.

SPEAKER_00 (49:22):
I don't think so.
No.
There's like some scripture andpassage that oh, I just actually
um I just keep thinking about,you know, I stand at the door
and knock.

SPEAKER_06 (49:33):
Yeah.
You know, when Jesus comes,knock and you know, let him in.
It does you might not know thetime he's coming.
Right.
You might not have time to cleanup.
Right.
But when he It's like answer.
If Jesus is knocking on yourdoor, don't think, oh, there's
these ten other things I can dobefore we answer it.
No, you should answer the door.

SPEAKER_00 (49:53):
Yes.
Joel Is that how you say it?
Joel?

unknown (49:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (49:57):
Okay.
Joel 2 32.
And everyone who calls on thename of the Lord will be saved.
For on Mount Zion and inJerusalem there will be
deliverance, as the Lord hassaid among the survivors whom
the Lord calls.
So there's a couple differentpassages of scripture pretty
similar to that, you know, thatbeat around the bush about

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coming as you are, you know.
But I don't think it's in redletters anywhere saying, Come as
you are.

SPEAKER_03 (50:24):
No, I don't believe so.

SPEAKER_06 (50:25):
Right.
But yeah, but I think you know,Jesus proves it plenty of time.

SPEAKER_00 (50:30):
Yes.

SPEAKER_04 (50:34):
Well, look who he picked.
Well who he did.
Yeah, and Mary.
You know, yeah.
I mean, you know.

SPEAKER_00 (50:39):
The first, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (50:40):
They were they they were they came as they were.
You know.
And he called them.
Yeah, he called them.
They didn't they didn't go tohim.
He called them.

SPEAKER_06 (50:50):
So I'm sure, and I'm sure even sometimes they were
like, Are you sure you reallywant me?

SPEAKER_00 (50:55):
Right.
You know, like you're making amistake here.

SPEAKER_06 (50:58):
Yeah, you're making a mistake.
Well, didn't didn't didn'tMatthew say that?
Something like a tax collector?

SPEAKER_04 (51:04):
Yeah, like sure you got the right Matthew?

SPEAKER_06 (51:07):
Mm-hmm.
He's like, Oh yeah, I'm sure.
I know you don't you don't seeyou don't see you the way I see
you.
Yeah.
You know, which that's a bigthing.
A lot of people, it's like, Iknow you think this about
yourself, or but you don't seeyou the way I see.
There's a whole other personthere that you don't see.

SPEAKER_00 (51:26):
Yes.

SPEAKER_06 (51:26):
Because you got all these other things going on that
you don't need that aren'timportant.

SPEAKER_00 (51:30):
Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_06 (51:31):
But you know, I see the one who I created.
You know, the only problem isyou don't see it.
You don't see it.
But it's gonna take arelationship with me for you to
open your eyes and say it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a whole other person inthere, you know, that that
you're capable of being.
Yeah.
And it has nothing to do withwhat you're doing right now.

SPEAKER_05 (51:51):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (51:51):
And you can leave that all behind you.
You know, all it's gonna take iswe just gotta get started.
Yep.
And it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_00 (52:00):
All in.

SPEAKER_06 (52:01):
Yeah, all in.
There's much hips.
You know, yeah.
Yep.

SPEAKER_05 (52:04):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (52:06):
Yeah.
Well, you know, and Jesus has toexplain a lot of times.
Like when they're out in the outon the boat in the middle of the
water in the storm, like he'slike, seriously, guys, you still
don't get it?
Right, right.
There's so many times.
He's like, seriously, you guysstill don't get it?

SPEAKER_02 (52:20):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 (52:21):
You know, like what what more do I need to do to
prove to you?
To have that faith.
Yeah.
That even if I don't walk onthis water, you're gonna have
that faith that I am who I say Iam and I can do what I say I'm
gonna do.
You know, and all you have to dois that brings up a good point.

SPEAKER_00 (52:37):
I read something this week that Moses or God
didn't part the Red Sea untilMoses stepped forward.
So it was like he wanted to seewhat his faith was going to do.
Right.
He's like, once he steppedforward, then I parted the sea.
So it's like he's waiting foryou to step forward and just
come as you are.

SPEAKER_06 (52:57):
Yeah, he didn't part it, then say, Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (53:00):
Yeah, I'm like, wow, I never really heard that or put
those two together.
I'm like, I don't know.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (53:11):
And that sounds impossible.

unknown (53:13):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (53:15):
Nothing's impossible with God.

SPEAKER_06 (53:17):
Yeah.
But they I I think I've heardthat they are starting to find
evidence that you know, becausethere was well, there was never
any chariots found.
Yep.
You know, there was no evidence,physical evidence found of the
city.
I've heard that too that they'refinding.
Yeah.
Now you're starting to hearabout the things that are coming
up that may well prove it.

SPEAKER_00 (53:36):
Yep.
Yeah.
Just more evidence.

SPEAKER_04 (53:40):
Yeah.
The non-believers.
They keep looking for the theykeep looking for something that
that's they don't want to findit.
They look for it, but they don'twant to find it.
Yeah.
Pretty much.
Yeah.
You know, they you know, theyjust keep like and and every

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time they find something like,ooh, wow.
Maybe we shouldn't look anymore.
Wow, let's let's go see if wecan find this because we know
this isn't here.

SPEAKER_00 (54:09):
Another phase.

SPEAKER_04 (54:10):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So they just uh strengtheningGod's word.
Pretty much.

SPEAKER_06 (54:21):
Yeah.
Yeah, they they're out to try todebunk it.
Right.
And they're they're gonna keepstrengthening it.

SPEAKER_00 (54:26):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well that was good.
Yeah.
Do we know whose turn it is topray?

SPEAKER_06 (54:40):
I believe it's mine.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (54:42):
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, because I thought lasttime I'm like, wow, and Beth's
not even here for me to tellher, but I was like, wow, Beth
has really like she was alwaysso nervous to pray and stuff,
and like she's just she's such anatural at it.
Like, I know I'm not a naturalat it, but she is, you know, and
it's like wow.
Like she she would have neverbeen nervous because yeah, but

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there you're afraid to step outof your comfort zone.

SPEAKER_04 (55:06):
Yeah.
You know.

SPEAKER_00 (55:07):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (55:08):
But she's I think she's allowing the Holy Spirit
just to take over.

SPEAKER_00 (55:13):
Yeah.
All righty.
Good.
Here we are.
Are we ready?

SPEAKER_06 (55:23):
Lord, we thank you again for the special time that
you give us each week to cometogether and discuss all the
wonder and splendor that that isyou.
Um I just thank you so much forsometimes, you know, we we come
in here expecting to do onething.
You know, we come as we are, andsometimes um something
unexpected will happen thatgives us a whole different

(55:45):
perspective and gives us uhfurther understanding and
meaning into other people'slives um and the uh situations
uh that may be heavy on theirheart.
Yes.
Um and I just thank you forallowing us, giving us a chance
uh to help help those um inthose situations.
Yes.
Um just help us continue um toalways just be pressing forward

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to help as many people as wecan, understand that you know
there is no waiting period uhfor your love and your faith and
understanding.
Um just um that's why we're hereis is to bring people to you.
And um we just want to do thatwith all of the you know honesty
and urgency that we can.
Um and I just pray that you willallow us to uh just give us um

(56:33):
another another healthy seasonof doing this.
Yes.
Um and that's uh we look forwardto it.
Uh so I pray travel mercies onevery everyone leaving tonight,
and I pray all these things inyour precious name.
Amen.

SPEAKER_04 (56:47):
Amen.