"Good Advice" vs. Spiritual Advice

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Join us in this enlightening episode where we unravel the differences between good advice and spiritual advice. How do these forms of support differ in their impact on our lives? We explore the importance of spiritual guidance and how it can foster not only growth but also genuine connections with others in our community.

Drawing from personal stories and relatable experiences surrounding the care of feral cats, we delve into the richness of spiritual insights shaping our choices. Fear of rejection when discussing beliefs often prevents us from planting seeds of faith; we address this while emphasizing the value of fellowship and support. Listeners will discover how spiritual conversations can redefine relationships and lead to profound changes. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do it underneath the radar, so to speak.
So I'll mention it to her andsee if, maybe, because that's
the thing, you've got to getthem trapped and you've got to
get them fixed.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I know.
I talked to her before and shesaid they won't fix them during
the winter because they'll beout in the wild.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
But the only problem now is, though, you may have to
pay for it.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, my worry is that she's going to have these
kittens.
You know, Margie, she's like Idon't care.
I'll pay for the next or before.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Tnr would pay for all that, so all you had to do was
to work to trap them and getthem to the vet.
So that'd be the thing now.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
The thing is is if you get, she's going to explode
any day soon.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Well, you need to trap her now and put her
someplace where she can't getout and where she has them, and
then maybe you can you know,tame them down.
Well, interact with them.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
That's what I'm worried about, because as soon
as I mess with them, she'll movethem.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Well, yeah, oh, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I'm sure she'll have them in that heated house.
One of the girls at work saidthat she'd take them for barn
cats.
But she's like I don't feed mybarn cats, I'm like I warm their
food up on cold mornings.
You got enough mice out there,the moles.
If I send, I'll bring you a bagof food.

(01:26):
If I send you a bag of food, ifI bring you a bag of food, will
you feed her?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
We've got it's not even springtime yet.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
We have three down at work and they get fed twice a
day, once in the morning, andthen they get food at night.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
Dad's animals get fed twice a day.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
But then on the weekends they fend for
themselves.
They get.
Well, a guy comes down onFriday and gives them some.
I don't know if he goes onSaturday and Sunday, so they
probably come up to your houseand eat.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Probably they heard about that heated house.
Yeah, the warmed up food Warmedup food.
Maybe a little milk here andthere.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Ours is like chocolate milk.
They get chocolate milk once ina while.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I'm not even going to start that.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
They know the joke.
Fat Cat knows the joke too.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
My cats get the milk out of my cereal bowl sometimes.

Speaker 6 (02:31):
Do you not like that milk?
I'm not supposed to do that.
Do you like the milk?
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
I don't like to drink the milk so much as I used to.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, I don't know, I used to love it, but Too much
sugar in it, maybe, yeah, yeah,now you're not.
You're not supposed to eat allthat.
When you got four cats lookingup, actually like are you done
yet?

Speaker 1 (02:56):
somebody's done it before yeah, yeah, they know the
routine.
You kind of give in.
You know like okay don't letmommy, see, here we go yeah, my
and mommy's like don't let daddy.
That's the thing as much as shespoils them.
You know, I give a little bitof milk and I'm the villain,
really but it wasn't her idea.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
That's true, you know it's your idea, so yeah mine.
All you gotta do is either getpopcorn or chips or pretzels,
and they're all right there.
My wife can have a full coursemeal and be sitting in the
recliner watching TV, and theydon't even bother.

Speaker 6 (03:40):
It's because you give in, you're the game.
Uh-huh, see yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
That's how Chase is.

Speaker 6 (03:43):
It's because you give in, you're the game, uh-huh.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
See yeah.
That's how Chase is.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
Zara's like she doesn't really bother with me
because I rarely give heranything.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Just Chase.

Speaker 6 (03:54):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Oh yeah, He'll teach Cooper to do that.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
Oh yeah, cooper's already been like dropping his
food.
I'm like that's your, your egg,not zara's egg.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
I ate all the broccoli mom you can't be
dropping eggs right now no, no,no yeah I was gonna.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
I was gonna thinking about getting some more chickens
, but man, they're like fourbucks a piece for peeps.
Really.
Yeah, you don't know if they'regoing to live or die.
Yeah, because last time I gotsix, I ended up with four.

Speaker 6 (04:35):
Well, nick, what's the topic?
Are we going for it?

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, what is the difference between good advice
and spiritual advice?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
They both should be the same, but they're not.

Speaker 6 (04:48):
Realistically.
Yeah, they should.
Yeah, you know, because goodadvice— I mean any spiritual
advice is good advice.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
But that doesn't mean that good advice is necessarily
spiritual advice?

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yes, well, that's true, I think your
non-Christians probably arereally—I mean, they don't know
the spiritual advice to give,but as Christians we should be
giving it.
Whether we always do or not, Idon't know.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (05:12):
Yeah, I think that's hard like to put yourself in
line to make sure that you aregiving spiritual advice advice.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Well, I think a lot of times good advice is an
immediate uh, you know it'swhat's what somebody wants to
hear.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
It's immediate fix.
Yeah, it's that practicalsolution to whatever the problem
is.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, yeah you know somebody's you know hurting or
having a hard time, and a lot oftimes you just you just want to
give them what they want tohear to make them feel better.
You know, and it's not, and alot of times I think good advice
can be short-term adviceinstead of long-term advice.
You know, just because you knowyou give good advice doesn't
mean that person is going totake it and necessarily grow

(06:01):
from it, where I think if yougive them spiritual advice, it
gives them something to worktowards, not just an immediate
fix of saying you know, yeah,it'll get better.
You know, um, it's somethingthat they can take, you know,
they can read into it, they canread the word and they can grow
from that and they might nottake it right away.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
they, they might be like I'm not listening to that
nonsense.
You tell me that all the time,blah, blah, blah, blah blah.
But it's almost like you'replanting that seed.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
You might not see it reap, but yeah, yeah, because
it's very hard and sometimesperhaps it's okay.
When you know that somebody,when you know that somebody
hasn't been saved yet, they'renot necessarily a Christian, is
it okay to give them spiritualadvice and yet not tell them the

(06:55):
source, like you know, becauseyou don't want to push somebody
too, hard onto the word.
So, or, or should we becompletely up front and try to
push the fact that, yeah, you'regiving them, you're giving the
word of god, you're not justgiving them.
You know what you would do inthat?
Situation and that's anotherthing.

(07:16):
I think sometimes people gowell, here's what I would do in
that situation, and you thinkyou're giving them good advice
and not necessarily giving themwhat God thinks you should do.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
And that advice may not pertain to them, or it
pertains to them, but it may notbe the advice that they need,
you know.
I mean you can tell somebodysomething, and even spiritual or
just an advice, and it's up tothem for what they do with it.

(07:49):
If they take it, okay.
If they don't, well, you didyour part.
It's like trying to leadsomebody to salvation.
I mean you can tell them, butyou can't make them.
You can't Right yeah.

Speaker 6 (08:10):
So your question about do you think we should?

Speaker 1 (08:13):
almost like— yeah, should we be saying like okay,
you know what you really need isthe Word of God?
So you're being very upfrontabout saying you know this is
the advice that I'm giving you.
You need Jesus.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
Yeah, you need.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Jesus, as opposed to saying you have the spiritual
knowledge, yeah, and you give itto them in a way where you know
it's not pushing them awaybecause you're trying to be.

Speaker 6 (08:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
You know, Spiritual.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
You're not thumping the Bible.
Yeah, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Get them to a place where you think they need to be
so, is it?
Or or should we not do that?
They're hearing the word rightright.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
but you know, should we be conscious of the fact that
we want them to know they'rehearing the word, or do you
think that comes in time?
Do you think we should?
You know, if we're lucky enoughto have somebody come to us
asking us for advice, forwhatever reason, they can look
at us and see that, yeah, youknow, this person seems like
they've got it together, butthey might not necessarily know

(09:12):
your background, that you're aChristian.
Right.
You know.
So should you just give themthat advice from that spiritual
knowledge, without you know,revealing the true, you know
source, or should you be?

Speaker 2 (09:28):
know, revealing the true you know source, or should
you be?
If they're not a question andyou're giving them the spiritual
advice and telling them it'sfrom the bible, they're just
gonna be like whatever you know.
I think if you just shared thatwith them without telling them
and then maybe down the road hey, you know, this is in the book
like oh, that's where this camefrom.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Be like hey, I see that's.
Yeah, this has helped you sofar.
Well, let me tell you a littlemore.
That's where this came from.
Or be like hey, I see that,yeah, this has helped you so far
.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Well, let me tell you a little more about where that
comes from.
It's kind of like tellingsomebody that's not a Christian,
well, I'll pray for you andthey're like you know, yeah,
right.

Speaker 6 (09:54):
Yeah, because that's what I was just thinking, Like
if you started out saying well,you know, Mark, chapter 1 one
tells us like as soon as you saythat, like it's going to go in
one ear out the other, yeah,yeah.
But I think I think almost likefollowing through with it, like
if they do accept that piece ofadvice, and then you say

(10:16):
something like oh, I saw that,you know, that's kind of working
.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Like especially if they continue to come.

Speaker 6 (10:20):
Yeah, yes, yeah to come.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
Yeah, yes, yeah for sure yeah yeah and they see that
passion in you, or you know theway that you present it as well
, not just that negativesometimes how you present
something yeah well, I always go, you know, I always go back to
the self-help.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
you know, everybody loves the self-help, everybody
loves the self-help category inthe bookstore, everybody loves
to listen to podcasts aboutdoing better self-help, better
mental health, all of thosethings.
I mean that's a thing thateverybody seems to catch on with
.
It's very popular.
It's very popular, but it's notso popular to reveal what is

(11:09):
the source of that.
True, mental health which is,you know, having Jesus Christ as
your Lord and Savior.
You know that's not necessarilya well.
Let's face it, it's not amulti-million dollar you know,
yeah.
Seller, yeah, I mean how manymental you know.
I'd love to know what the salesare for mental health books.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
Self-help books you know, I mean yeah, because you
get a lot of movie stars, thatwe have inner peace we'll learn
that inner peace even if lifeisn't going the way that we
think it should we learn to havethat inner peace, no matter
what's going on around us yeah,but how much money?

Speaker 3 (11:44):
how much money do these people pay for them books?

Speaker 1 (11:47):
jesus is free well, right, that's what I'm saying
people don't mind.
People don't mind paying, thatyou know, to subscribe to these
podcasts or these youtubesessions or to the books.
They don't mind paying all thatmoney and like.
Like I said, it's a big thingand you know how many movie
stars have their own, you know?
Path to life books based ontheir experience, and so few of

(12:12):
them actually mentioned anythingabout Christ or about God.
You just see a lot of that.
You know yoga, all those things.
And I don't think those thingsare negative.
I think those things are goodfor people.
But it's just curious to methat you know, everybody wants
to feel better, to have a betterframe of mind, to be more

(12:33):
positive, with just positiveconversation, you know, and good
advice, you know, as, becauseyou're saying well, arnold
Schwarzenegger, you know, toldme that in his book he wrote
that here's how he does it, youknow, or so-and-so, this is how

(12:56):
they do it, and a lot of timesit's you know, and I'm not
saying that Arnold's not aChristian, I'm not saying that I
don't know.
But I guess that's the thing Idon't know, like, cause I
listened to his book and Ithought it was a really good
book, based on his experiencesand how he's been able to be
successful.
But he didn't really talk a lotabout God like as being a true

(13:18):
source of inspiration and life.
So maybe he just chose to leaveit out, I don't know.
And in life, so maybe he justchose to leave it out, I don't
know.
So it would sell more, I don'tknow, but I think a lot of times
that's where we are as asociety is yeah, we're all on
board with better mental health,more positivity.
We want everybody to be kindand love one another.

(13:38):
But if we say Jesus Christ,then there's a lot of people
that go.
Well, wait a minute, that's toomuch.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
Yeah, because now we're given our personal truth.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah.
And why is that?
Why is it all of a sudden, whenwe say Jesus Christ, it's
become a personal thing.
Yeah, yes, yeah.
I mean we could talk about asmany vitamins.
I don't know how many peopleare telling me oh, you need to
take fish oil.
Fish oil solves so many of yourproblems and maybe it will.

(14:07):
Maybe it will help me, but Idon't think that alone.
Yeah, is going to solve all myproblems no, like I said, we can
have this open forum to talkabout any drug, any prescription
, any.
You know all of these things,but as soon as we say jesus
christ, it's like back up, yeahthat whoa, that kind of led me.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
It's so crazy that this conversation is taking this
turn, because today I was like,oh, I had like a bad chip on my
shoulder from someone who's nota believer.
In fact, she's very open aboutbeing um, yeah, I almost said
racist.
My goodness, my head's in theclouds today I'm like don't say

(14:45):
that.
Yes, very open about being anatheist, and the other day she's
like she posts on Facebook oh,asking for positive thoughts,
vibes, whatever, or comma,whatever you believe in.
And I'm like you could havereplaced that whatever you
believe in with prayers, becauseI like you could have replaced

(15:05):
that whatever you believe inwith prayers, because I know
that's what you're asking for.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
That blows my mind.
They will ask for prayers.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
It just irked me.
They know.
They just don't want to makethat commitment and that's why
she wouldn't have typed whateveryou believe in, if she didn't
want those prayers.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yeah, yeah, and we know prayer works.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I have a friend that justrecently lost her husband and
we're not real close, closefriends, but I've kind of
reached out to her since he gotsick and was gone very rapidly
and she's not handling it wellat all and I always tell her,
you know, when I hang up thephone.
Well, you know, I'm going tocontinue to pray for you.

(15:51):
You do that.
You pray for your God for me,because I need it.
And she's like your God, your.
God, okay, but at least she'snot denying that there's a God,
yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (16:05):
Yeah, that's.
I kind of have someone in mylife that's kind of like that
too, like they're almost onefoot in, one foot out, but
they'll still say, you're God,you know.
Or like, oh, I'm trying tobelieve, I'm like it's not hard,
you know, it's not.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Well, like Roger said , it's the only free
subscription out there.

Speaker 6 (16:25):
Yeah, the only thing that'll be there for you 24-7,
when you're knocking on the doorat 3 am.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
I think sometimes people stumble when they're not
walking with Christ, but all ofa sudden, now they're going to
start praying to him and theydon't see a reaction.
Yeah, right away, right away.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
And then they're like , oh well, they don't see a
reaction.
Yeah, right away, right away.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
And then they're like oh well, he didn't answer my
prayers, well, maybe he did.

Speaker 6 (16:49):
Yeah, maybe in a different way, maybe his answer
was unanswered prayers.
Exactly.
You know, I mean Exactly,because there's something better
down there.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Well, I think a lot of people have in their mind
that's what god should be, ifthere's.
If there's a god, why hasn't hedone this or done that in my
life?
But they never ask what have Iever done?

Speaker 6 (17:18):
for well, and I think that's just it.
That's just an ignorant thought, because why would he be your
genie for what he did for us?
Why in the world would he?

Speaker 1 (17:28):
do that and it's common sense, Like any
relationship you have withanybody.
It doesn't work that way.

Speaker 6 (17:34):
So why would it?

Speaker 1 (17:35):
work that way.
It's not a one-way street, nope, but so many people, it's like
they won't believe, unless it'son those terms, like I'm still
waiting on God to do somethingin my life to prove to me that
he's real.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah, I wanted that new car and he hasn't given it
to me yet.
Well, you know it's like.
What have you done to?

Speaker 1 (17:53):
you know, to make that prayer come to fruition.
Yeah, what have you done?

Speaker 6 (17:56):
What work have you put in?
Yeah, like Michael was sayingSunday, like the, if you're
asking, you know asking so muchfrom him.
What have you done?
Like chances are is you've donelittle with what you have now,
so he's not going to bless youwith more.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
We want his hand.
We don't want to give him ourheart.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
It's all very easy.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
We like to make everything complicated.
You just have to submit, youknow, I think they get this idea
in their head that I mean, yeah, that, oh well, I'm gonna have
to change no, you will yeah butyou'll, your heart's desire will
be to want to change.

Speaker 6 (18:44):
It's not going to happen overnight.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
We're all sinners.
We stumble and fall every day.
I think that they think I'vegot to walk the straight line.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
Yeah, I've got to clean myself up first.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
That's a great point.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Pastor Oki always used to say you can't clean the
fish before you catch them.
Good analogy.
Yeah, you know yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
Good analogy, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
When they give their heart to the Lord, he'll prune
them.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
Yep, absolutely, when you've truly given your heart
to the.
Lord, he will give you thatdesire to change.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, it's just like planting a tree.
I mean, I planted my trees thatI have like two years ago and
I'm looking at them like we'recoming into another spring.
I'm like I hope they get alittle bigger this year.
When are they really going tostart?
Growing yeah and I know they'vegrown, I know they have, but it
hasn't been like just not wow,you want it to yeah you, but you
may.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
You may never see them get to maturity.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
And that's true, yeah .
I may not you know, but it'sthat same type of vision of just
.
You know, we want that instant,right now, instant result, and
if you don't see it, then youthink there's no work being done
.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
And that's just like when you plant a seed you know,
yeah, you may plant a seed andthat, that's all your
responsibility is to plant thatseed, dawn's gonna come along
and water it.
Roger's gonna come along andhelp it when it's starting to
lean the wrong way and help himget the weeds out.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
You know it just yeah , well, and that's where
fellowship comes into playexactly for a lot of people and
they don't understand thateither that you know, well, god
hasn't done anything in my life.
Well, what are you surroundedby, you know?
Are you surrounded bylike-minded people that want to
see God move in your life, orare you with a bunch of people

(20:36):
that could care less whether youknow you improve.
You know that you have arelationship with them.
You know they couldn't carryyou away.
In fact, they're probably thebiggest that you have a
relationship with them.
You know they couldn't carryyou away.
In fact, they're probably thebiggest distraction that you
have.
Yeah, so if you don't have thatfellowship, then you can't do
what you just said.

Speaker 6 (20:52):
You don't have that help, absolutely yeah um, you
said you don't have that helpand I'm just thinking like yeah,
you don't have that mentorship,like no, you almost have like a
you don't have that chain yeahyou know, it's like a chain.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
I mean one length.
One length by itself, I suppose, is pretty strong, but what's
it going to do?
Yeah, but if you put two orthree together yeah, yeah, yeah
you.
So, yeah, you might be a strongperson, you might be somebody
who responds well to positivity,to positive advice, but nobody

(21:32):
ever does anything on their own.

Speaker 6 (21:35):
You can only go so far.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
You can only go so far by yourself and you know,
unfortunately, if you startconnecting weak links to your
chain well, yeah, and then, onceyou start to stumble, who was
there to support?

Speaker 2 (21:49):
you yeah at least if you're like with like-minded
people, yep because if you'restill hanging with those and
then you start stumbling,they're like oh yeah, we told
you they're gonna be stumblingand then they're just going to
grab your arm and take you rightdown with them.

Speaker 6 (22:05):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Or it'll just be all those links will be scattered,
they'll all break and scatterand you won't have anything left
.
So yeah, it's usually, you know, being with strong people and
good faith and good fellowshipthat chain gets longer and
longer, and it gets, you know,it gets tougher and tougher, so

(22:28):
and it can reach more people youknow, that's the thing.

Speaker 6 (22:31):
Each link you kind of reach more people as you go and
then it can start sprouting offlike to go other directions
yeah, so I've never seen a chainsprout off.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Roger, yeah, oh, come on.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
You're adding a link going this way and another one
going this way.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
I don't know.
I've seen a lot of chains.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
We're building our own wall.
Yeah, come on, Roger.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
We're not going to go buy it.

Speaker 6 (22:57):
We're building our own.
Got to be imaginative, gotta beimaginative.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
I think when you do make that change in your life
and you know you still havethose friends that you know I'm
going to say still in the world,whatever their eyes are upon
you waiting, so you know whenyou do stumble they're going to
be right there.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Oh yeah, they're like white on rice, so you know,
when you do stumble they'regoing to be right there.
Oh yeah, they're like white onrice, but that's why it's so,
like you said, being withlike-minded people is so
important.
Yeah, but are those people inthe world?
Were they really your friends?

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Usually you find out they're not when you put the
party in.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
you know all that yeah a lot of them disappear,
you never hear from them againafter that happens.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Which was, you know, when I shared that video a
couple weeks ago about thisthing and Lex Luger, you know
like he at first thought, youknow, like I lost my best friend
, and for a while I guess he did, because he chose to keep doing
the partying and living thatlifestyle.
Doing, yeah, the partying andliving that lifestyle, and, uh,
but wouldn't you know it, theone friend that was still there

(24:06):
when he was ready to make a realchange in his life was there.
Yep, he was the guy that wasstill there you know, willing to
help him and and see his, youknow, relationship with christ
come, come full circle and uh,yeah, that that's a great point
is, you know you can if you have.
I think if you truly havesomebody in your life that wants

(24:28):
to be there for you spiritually, they'll always be there.

Speaker 6 (24:31):
Yeah, I agree, regardless of how far you.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
you know, drift off, but you know if somebody is not
grounded in that, you knowthey'll drop you at the first
sign of trouble.
You know they won't worry aboutwhat happens to you.
A lot of times, some of them,people will be responsible for
what happens to you Right, yeah,right.
So, and you know, in their mindthose same people might be

(24:56):
trying to give you, say, goodadvice, like, oh, you don't need
to worry about that, you'refine, you know you're going with
us.
You know, we've been doing thisfor 20 years.
You know we're you know we'rehaving fun.
You know this is, you know thisis this group of guys and we're
you know they, just they giveyou plenty of positive
affirmation that you know yourlife is you know you're worrying

(25:19):
too much.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Yeah, you're worrying too much about your life, you
know, just you know.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Worrying too much yeah, it's no big deal, you're
worrying too much about yourlife, you know, just, you know,
and it's that kind of advice,mm-hmm, doesn't really get you
anywhere.

Speaker 6 (25:28):
No, Hurts you if anything yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
That's not good advice.
No.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
But people give it all the time.
Yeah.
You know, rather than break upthe team, you know, break up the
team.
You know, you know you don'twant to see a lot of people
don't want to see somebody.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
Uh, break away, grow, yeah, grow on without them.
Yeah, they don't want to seethat you know.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
So that's, and it's very hard for somebody to hear
all that coming from a group ofpeople say they've known all
their life, that they've alwayshung out with.
It's hard to finally say youknow what, I'm sorry, guys, but
it's what I gotta do.
You know what?
I'm sorry, guys, but it's what Igot to do you know, which is
like what Sting did.
He was basically like Iremember he would tell stories,
like he would go to the lockerroom and they'd be playing cards

(26:11):
and drinking doing this.
He'd be like I'm sorry, guys,I'm not playing cards anymore.
I'm like, oh, come on.
You know like yeah, just thisone round.

Speaker 6 (26:19):
Like can't do it.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
And that was really hard for him, just to, because
he still had to go to that workenvironment, right right With
those same guys that he's knownall his life and played cards
with all his life and drank withall his life, and all of a
sudden to be like more or less,well, I guess I got to go in my
own little corner.
Yeah, for now you know.

(26:43):
And I'm sure everyone wastalking about him like oh, he
thinks he's better and he wasthe icon of that business.
So, and still, you know peoplewouldn't follow him yeah I mean
eventually.
Yeah, there were a few guysyeah, that got it, but yeah,
that's got to be hard we canhear the bird what was the bird?

Speaker 6 (27:10):
I heard somebody tweeting it's Roger, it wasn't
me.
I saw your lips pucker you canblame for everything.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
And Michael's not even here.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
Yeah, I know, it's a tough crowd.
Maybe it's just this seat righthere, you know, maybe, yeah,
maybe I need to move.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
To Chicago.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Well, that'd be the last place I'd go, I know you
guys can't hear my cord.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Can you through the microphone?

Speaker 6 (27:43):
I just sound.
I feel like I sound really loudright now Because I got like
this raincoat on.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Oh no, I can hear it like rubbing up against me yeah,
see, it's not me, it's not me.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Well, I keep playing.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Like I'm ruining the recording yeah.

Speaker 6 (28:02):
Scratch, scratch, scratch.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
I mean the little the bars look okay like on here.
They're not going like they'rekind of just all in the middle.
Are they monkey bars?

Speaker 6 (28:09):
kind of like this way which way this way left to
right alright, we're gonna haveto.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Well, is anybody?
Is anybody here, like ever?

Speaker 1 (28:23):
been in that situation where you're.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Oh yeah, I am.
All the time when I go to mydaughters because they drink,
you know, and well, we had likea late Christmas party, so I go
out.
You know, linda was sick, so Igo out and I only went to eat
they always ask me do you want abeer?

(28:50):
Nope, do you want a beer Nope.
Do you want a mixed drink?
Nope, you know.
And they, you know, when Ifirst became a Christian, it
really bothered me, you know, togo and just to smell the beer

(29:12):
or to smell the alcohol you know, did it bother you because you
couldn't join them, or did itbother you because— no, I knew
that I shouldn't do it right.
You know, in my heart I knewthat I shouldn't, I shouldn't
partake in that place, so I justdidn't do it, you know.

(29:33):
And now I don't, they don'tbother me, don't bother you.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Don't feel like you don't belong.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Now have they gotten to the spot where they quit
offering it.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
No, no, they aren't.
I mean well, basically theyonly one time in the evening.
That's good.
They all know that I don'tdrink.
But they're being polite and Ipolitely saying decline.
I'll say no, thank you.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
I'm like, why'd you bring your dad's?

Speaker 5 (30:12):
here, your daughter was raised in church.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, not all of her life, but she knows, just like
my daughter.
I mean but she's no—she'lldrink some wine, or something

(30:44):
like that.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
She's not drinking to get drunk.
No, no.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
But where?
Well, my son-in-law.
He doesn't anymore, but he'sgot four girls and they've got
four young husbands and fiancésand boyfriends.
So they put her away husbandsand fiancés and boyfriends, you
know.
So they put her away.
I'd like, sometimes I'd like tohave the money that they spend

(31:11):
on her.
I mean the younger ones, I meanit's just, it's unreal, but
they'll learn, they'll figure itout.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
That's you know.
I mean somebody that's not aChristian.
You know, if they have a badday and they come home from work
, that's you know.
Hey, I'm going to have a beerand relax instead of you know,
come home and maybe get in theWord or turn on.
You tell them no, turn on somegospel music or whatever Make it
feel better, or just go outsideand work in the garden.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
That's my thing.
I wish it would hurry up andstart getting warm.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
I guess that's a great point too.
I'm not knocking anybody if,like you said, they come home
and they have a couple glassesof red wine.
I'm not saying it's becausesomebody does that.
They're not a Christian, I'mnot saying that at all.
But, as you said, I think, likegoing out into the garden,
that's a great exercise ofbecoming one with God.

(32:14):
Like you can do that.
I think you can do that.
I think you can make that anexercise to where you can be out
in the garden.
You can be out there praying,you can be out there meditating,
you could become one with God.
I don't know if that ever workswith, say, alcohol.

Speaker 6 (32:29):
You can go home and drink two glasses of wine and be
like yeah maybe one glass ofwine, yeah, yeah yeah, I was
gonna say like I feel likeanytime I'm out, either I don't
have a garden, but like if I'mout, just even making my yard
look presentable or do you know,making it look pretty outside,

(32:50):
or going like my head, just whatmovement.
Yeah, I'm gonna decorate mytrash can with some christmas
lights.
Apparently my neighbor did that.
I'll have to show a picture.
Um, but yeah, like my brainlike it, just like it.
It calms, like there's nothing.
I mean, my brain's always likethinking to do something or

(33:11):
what's next, like throughout theday, like that's the only time
it just shuts down, is like ifI'm outside, walking or you know
, picking up sticks or buildinga fire, like that's just like
when it's calm.
But, like you said, like ifyou're just getting drunk, like
that's not going to do it.
There's no way.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
The only thing that does is make you feel bad the
next morning.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
And make stupid decisions while you're drunk.
Well, yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Yeah, that's Never had good outcomes.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
No, I mean but do you guys find, Does anybody find
themselves in a position whereyou're either Well, let's say,
you're in a position whereyou're taking positive advice
when you know that you needspiritual advice, or do you find

(34:08):
yourself in a position at allwhere you know that you should
have given spiritual advice.
You just gave good advice.
I mean, does anybody kind offeel, oh, I feel that all the
time yeah, that's like thelatter, like I feel I'll say
something.

Speaker 6 (34:25):
Then I'm like, oh, I could have just planted a seed
somehow, but like my flesh justtakes over.
And then I just say, like whatthey want to hear not all the
time what they want to hear, butlike you know, like a
pick-me-up, like a quickpick-me-up or something.
But it's like then I'm thinkingthree minutes later, oh man,
that was a perfect opportunity.
Sometimes it's so hard to comeacross the right way.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah, because yeah, we had a truck driver coming to
work and he's all stressed outabout politics and this and that
and going off.
You know, and I really wantedto say you know, if everybody
put just more energy into intojesus christ instead of you know
all these politics and allthese, the world would be such a
better place.
We'd have so many more answersto all these troubles that we

(35:08):
have.

Speaker 6 (35:08):
Like putting that time and energy into Jesus
instead of these politics.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
But when you say it it's almost like you're
offending somebody.
It's very hard to put it intowords in a way that will make
somebody go.
Huh, yeah, you know yeah Tomake them think about way that
will make somebody go.
Huh yeah, you know yeah, tomake them think about it and
walk away and go.
Well, you know, maybe he'sright.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
I think we all fear rejection.

Speaker 6 (35:30):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
You know, absolutely.
We just we're kind ofprotecting Because we don't want
to be embarrassed.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (35:37):
And like we're okay now yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
No, we're okay.
Now, my god, I'll talk.
Yeah, no, no, any.
Yeah, no, no.
But I have, and I'm not sayingthey don't other people, but
right, I have to build up someconfidence.

Speaker 6 (35:47):
Yes, like hey, give me some boldness yeah because I,
you know, I don't have it, it'sgotta be you here, lord, I
guess embarrassed of like theshutdown.
You know what I mean like, orI'm always thinking what if that
question they ask me, I don'thave the answer to it yes but,
you can always say, but eventhat, yeah, I might not know
this answer, but he does, likeyou know, go home and get into

(36:08):
my work, exactly and we'lldiscuss that again.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
But yeah, I'm always fearful that I might not have
the right answer yeah, like yousaid, it may just completely
shut down the conversation, likethere won't be any more
conversation after you say thatLike a cold shoulder Sometimes.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
That's not a bad thing.
That's true If you really wantto shut somebody up.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
And I did kind of feel that way that day.
I was like I really wish thisguy would.
He was just one of those guyswho were like you didn't even
ask.
Like he opened the door of thetruck, stepped down onto the
floor as he started and you'relike where's this coming from?

Speaker 6 (36:44):
Especially with politics.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
That's such a hard like.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah so it's just, I usually get my politics from
Jarvee and I'm like I don't care.
I just I really don't care.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
I heard something today like if Russia and the
United States were to releaseevery nuclear bomb that they
have, it would destroy thisworld hundreds of times over.
And you just think to yourselfhow could this possibly be?
How could we have got this bad?
Yeah, greed.
And I suppose, like we thinkall this technology is so great,

(37:25):
that we're so powerful becausewe have this, but really we're
not.
In my mind, I think if you need, if that's what you need,
you're not powerful.
Yeah, you know you're not.

Speaker 6 (37:39):
Yeah, if you have to rely on all this other stuff, if
you're relying on nuclear power, then how powerful are we
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Just and again.
It's like that's, that's what.
That's the power struggle.
It's sad to think that's what'skeeping everybody honest.
Yeah.
Is that power struggle ofnuclear war?
It's like that's the only thingkeeping everybody honest.

(38:12):
Is that threat?

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
And it's not the word , it's not Jesus Christ that's
keeping everybody in a likableposition, it's the fact that,
well, at any time, you know,we'll just push the red button.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
Yeah, I was gonna say the same thing yeah, but that's
the reality of our world yeahit truly is no matter.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
You know, I think I think overall, yes, we are a
very god-fearing country I don'tknow what to say country.
I don't know what to say aboutChina, I don't know what to say
about Russia, but I thinkoverall, we are a fairly
God-fearing country.
But at the same time, I think,well, but we're in the same boat
.
That's where our true powerlies, in how many nuclear bombs
that we have, yep, and that'sthe balance in the world.

(39:00):
And so it's just like, nomatter how much we praise God
and talk about God, let's faceit, it's just like everything
comes down to do we have onemore nuclear bomb than you do,
because they were talking aboutthat, because there's talks of
we want to put an end tobuilding any more nuclear

(39:22):
weapons, and of course they'resaying that China is just a
little bit behind, say, theUnited States and Russia, but if
we stop, then they'll be even.
So it's like we want everybodyto be even and have the same
amount, just in case, just incase something happens.
You know, everybody's covered,and I just think that's crazy,
that is a crazy existence tohave and that's what, sadly, and

(39:50):
you know, my thought on this is, yes, my life could end because
, if they chose to make thatdecision, like you said, they
could destroy this world fivetimes over and my life would end
because of that decision.
Like you said, they coulddestroy this world five times
over and my life would endbecause of that decision.
But you know, I would haveJesus Christ as my Lord and
Savior.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
Yeah, right, and they probably don't Praise God that
our security is, that theyprobably don't yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
So to me, you know, it's a sad thought that that's
the power struggle in the world,that's how we determine who's
who, but at the end of the dayit's not going to matter to me.
Yeah, I may lose my life onEarth, but after that I've got

(40:38):
the best button.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah, exactly the best possible outcome if that
were to happen, button.

Speaker 5 (40:44):
Yeah, Exactly the best possible outcome you know
if that were to happen, right,yeah, yeah, for us to die is to
gain.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yep, yeah, yep.
So you know, it's just.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Is that you, Roger?

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Yeah, I have a phone.
I have no words to add.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
Yeah, today, you know what's up but the batteries.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Roger, were you um, but the battery's about dead
because it was in the 50s rightthat that was like the height of
the fear, of yeah, yeah, yeah,the bomb, yeah all, the, all,
all the fallout shelters.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
No, I was just born then, okay, but I well, it was,
I would say, up to 60.
But I can remember you know adsfor fallout shelters and you
know, get this fallout shelter.

(41:42):
And you know you have all yoursupplies and it was all bogus
because it was not going to helpyou any.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Yeah, well, and that's another niche of the
self-help world is doomsdaypreppers, doomsday preppers, yep
, these people that are.
Just they're totally, you know,focused on you know, if
something happens, you know I'mgoing to have my bunker, I'm
going to have everything I needto survive.
Yeah, for about two months yeah.

(42:10):
But I think, okay, you've gotall those things, but do you
have Jesus Christ?
Right?

Speaker 6 (42:16):
You know like they're so consumed with this idea of
my biggest thing is thebelievers that are also tuesday
preppers.
Wait a minute, what?

Speaker 2 (42:24):
I can remember when I don't know.
It's like driver, do you thinkI should just stock up on a
little bit of extra groceries?
And he's like really, if nobodyelse has food, do you want to
be the one that has?

Speaker 6 (42:34):
right, it'd be like the walking dead or something
like they're like oh okay, youchanged my mind.
It's gonna be like those catsthat know to go to your house
for food.
It's going to be people andthen they're going to kill you.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Yeah because everybody that comes to the
house they say well, we'recoming to your house, something
happens.
We have a room and it's gotcanned goods in it.
We've got canned not cannedsoup, but canned soup, big yeah
soup but canned.

Speaker 5 (42:58):
Big yes.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
And you know, we got vegetables and we've got fruit,
and we've got jelly and butter.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
No Apple butter.
Oh, we got apple butter.
Is that out of?

Speaker 3 (43:14):
butter.
No, oh, no, no.
We there's probably in the bigfreezer.
There's probably there might beonly five pounds in there.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
That is low for a little bit.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
But then there's probably another five pounds in
the freezer in the kitchen.
So yeah, we've got 10 pounds,it's been a little while yet,
but if we get down below 10,it's a crisis.
We've got to go at least twopounds.
But she hasn't saw the flyeryet for the orchard.

(43:52):
And you know, when they havebutter on sale we go get 110
pounds.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
It doesn't get strong in the freezer no, or you just
use that much of it no.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Well, when she bought the 110 pounds, I said what in
the world are you going to dowith all this money?
So we sold some of it for justthe price of what you know what
it was.
I mean it was a good price, butyeah.
But I mean it was a good price,but yeah, yeah, we sold.
I think we sold.
Let's see 30, 40.

(44:29):
We probably sold 50 pounds.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
What was she thinking , or was she not, when she saw?

Speaker 3 (44:33):
it.
Well she thought there was only12 in a case.
She got three cases so I don'tknow, but it ended up like 110
pounds.

Speaker 5 (44:51):
But, it was good, it was a sale.
Well, absolutely Can't pass upa good sale, dave Ramsey says
otherwise Well, but it's aconsumable.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Like my grandmother used to say, you might as well
get it because it's not going toeat anything Like any kind of
extra canned goods or extrasugar or extra flour.
My grandmother would say.
You know, my grandmother wouldsay you might as well just go
ahead and get it because it'snot going to eat anything and

(45:30):
you're going to use it.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
I do try to keep a little extra things yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Not like having a full extra house.
We try and keep at least 20pounds of flour and I think we
got like maybe 10 pounds ofsugar.
I keep telling her you needsalt and pepper, so we've

(46:01):
probably got I don't't know sixor seven pounds of salt.
You know three things of pepperwhere's this address at where's
this address at?
I need to know, just in case sothen we got two freezers full of

(46:22):
meat, Actually three freezers.
What was I going to say?
See, that's what happens whenyou get old you lose your
strength.
I can't remember right now.
What was I talking about?

Speaker 6 (46:37):
Flour, sugar, salt.
Pepper.
Oh, I know.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
We went to Sam's Club , okay.

Speaker 6 (46:45):
Do you like Sam's Club?
Do you like it yourself?
On some things, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
So I knew there wasn't very much ketchup in the
refrigerator.
I said well, why don't we justtake and get some ketchup?
I said we need some ketchup, sowe get three of the big things
of ketchup.
I said we need some ketchup, sowe get three of the big things
of ketchup and we have acupboard in my room that has
basically dried goods in it.

(47:11):
I went to put the ketchup awayand there's two bottles of
ketchup in there.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
Already in there.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
I said well, we don't have to buy ketchup for a while
.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
That's kind of like me and mustard.
We went to Sam's Pub so webought the ketchup and we bought
the mustard, went to go put iton the shelf and there was, I
don't know, some of them, amazon, quick deals or whatever.
They had French mustard realcheap, I think like 99 cents.
So I ordered like six of them.

Speaker 6 (47:37):
Forgot about it and I'm like, oh, I did not need
mustard yep, forgot about it andI'm like, oh, I did not need
mustard.
When chase and I first gottogether, he he'd always buy
salsa, like salsa and likecheese and jars, like he's like.
I'm like we already had some,though from a few weeks ago when
we went grocery shopping.
He's like, but for taco night?
I'm like, I understand, buttaco night we don't use a full

(48:00):
jar every time.
Well, yeah, but that's a snack.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Yeah, it is Chips and cheese.
Oh, yeah, it is.
You know you got to have asnack.

Speaker 6 (48:09):
Yeah, there was just like one point, I think we had
four extra, and then there wasone in the fridge that was
already open.
Yeah, like, oh man.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Oh, that's fun, you know.
Yeah, life is a trip, yeah.

Speaker 6 (48:26):
I'll tell you what though.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Okay, you tell us I'm going to Okay.
So couponing.

Speaker 6 (48:30):
you know and I don't even really cut down the coupons
anymore, I'll still look outthe paper coupons, but most of
the time I just go to CVS andthey have like clippable ones
like in the app.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Anybody doing the.
You know what did they call it?
They collect coupons.
What's the name for it?

Speaker 6 (48:51):
uh, coupon collector for a while put them in, yeah I
know what you're talking about,like in binders.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yeah, yeah, it's not a thing anymore.
People are over that one yeah,there really is almost one.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Yeah, there was almost a full-time job.

Speaker 6 (49:03):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
What stores?
Would back them.
What ones wouldn't?
What do they call that?

Speaker 6 (49:11):
There is actually a movie like a newer movie.
It's almost like a comedy, butit was based on a true story of
someone doing that and they gotinto a legal trouble.
I and it like they started like, like they got into like a
legal trouble, I mean becausethey started telling people, hey
, and then they would get likecommission you know giving them
good advice yeah, yeah.

(49:32):
They would basically have otherpeople go shop for them and
then they would get a percentageback.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
You know, craziness there used to be a woman in like
philly that had a store thatpenny penny, uh-huh.

Speaker 6 (49:43):
Yes, yeah, penny the penny pincher, maybe yeah yeah,
she disappeared.
I don't, I mean she didn'tappear but I mean that business
kind of did yeah no, but what Iwas saying was like I can almost
coupon anything for, like Ialmost never pay full price for
anything anymore, but the onething that you can't, it's like

(50:05):
personal hygiene products, likelike pads and tampons.
You can get toilet paper, youcan get paper towels, you can
get shampoo, you can getconditioner, you can get makeup,
but the stuff you absolutelyneed, that your body tells you
you need, and you can't get itcouponed.
I'm like oh, I really don't carewell, I know I didn't figure

(50:26):
you would care, roger, hey Idon't care anymore you know, I
can't wait till that day comes Iknow, but it like irks me.
The other day I had to pay fullprice for something I'm like I
don't think I have paid fullprice for besides groceries you
know what I mean.
But like I'm always trying toget a deal, you can't get a deal

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on anything anymore with those.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
I'm like I had a girlfriend that she I mean, she
was seriously cute.
Yeah, she couldn't sleep.
She go clear to canton, towalgreens.
It was open 24 hours a day toget their toilet paper.
She had three bathrooms in herhouse and the one was nothing
but stacked with.
The inside of the shower wasstacked with toilet toilet paper

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.
Yep, I'm like this isridiculous sherry.

Speaker 6 (51:16):
It's funny because I was just telling chase the other
night.
I'm like, why don't we have awalgreens around here?
I said they always have good,but it's always like you have to
pick it up in store and theclosest one is Canton.
I'm like, well, it's not goingto be a good deal if I have to
drive clear to Canton for it.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Yeah, we just don't go to Sam's Club.
You know, we have to be All thetime.
We have to be there.
We have to be in canton for areason yeah, yeah, yeah, go to
the doctors or whatever

Speaker 1 (51:46):
yeah you know they're way too much I've got to the
point where I hate it.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
We have more often just because some things are so
much cheaper up there.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
That they are they are that we use but I just hate
loading it up, getting it home,unloading it again so anyone way
costco, anyone do costco.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Yeah, we've done yeah , I like costco we just have to
keep it a family secret thatwe're going, otherwise everybody
gives you a list.
Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah I, Idon't like.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
I I mean I like going there, but I don't like going
there because every time we gothere we spend way too much
money and I hate that parkinglot.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
It doesn't matter, I always see a good spot up ahead
and someone always whips inthere and takes it from me, and
then it's always so windy upthere and then you gotta park,
yeah it's always so windy, it'sjust like.
I can't handle it.
I always make sure I bring acoat and a hat every time we go.
It can be calm all over therest of Canton as soon as you

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pull into Sam's.
Club, it's just getting hitfrom all directions.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
It's all that hot air for them women, that's in there
.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
I think Jarvee, when we go he sees how far away he
can park.
Just let me off at the door.

Speaker 6 (53:09):
Chase does that all the time with his truck.
He's like I'm just so used toit because of my van.
I'm like, okay, well, we're notin your van Park somewhere
closer?

Speaker 2 (53:23):
I said why are you parking?
Well, I don't want somebodyhitting my truck.
He's like I don't want to parkwith somebody like you.
They don't care, it's tightthere.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
I don't give him that .
It's tight, like I don't liketaking our truck there because I
can't get most of those spots.
Yeah, it's tight, yeah, and Ihate going down that first aisle
and, hello, they got 10salesmen lined up there.
Oh yeah, so for now I'm like westart at the back and work our

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way forward because I do notwant to go down the first aisle
anymore because you, just youget attacked by these people.

Speaker 6 (53:56):
I mean, they're like every three feet vultures yeah,
they have people at Walmartdoing that every now and then
they do.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
They do.
They just had a guy up front, Ithink two guys up front.
I don't know if they weretrying to sell family pictures
or whatever it was.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
It used to be Olin.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
That was all the time when my kids were little my
boys at Olin Mills was alwaysthere when you had.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
So yeah, they're still doing it, and that's a
whole other thing.
It's like okay, now I don'twant to be rude to these people.
Right, yeah, I don't want to bea good Christian.

Speaker 6 (54:28):
I don't want to ignore them.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
You don't want to ignore them, so what do you do?

Speaker 6 (54:32):
I'm going to show.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Jesus, look at something else.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Yeah, I point I point and be like.
Look at that I point and belike, like.

Speaker 6 (54:40):
I'm looking like yeah , yeah, that's one advantage of
being a legacy member you canact like you're like why?
Why, would you say, I can'thear you.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
We were here last week we got another kid, got me.
We're the only two guys.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
I gave it the office, yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Yeah, try anything Get past gave it the office.
Yeah, you try anything Get pastthose people.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Yeah, Sandsville will definitely challenge you.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Oh my gosh, I mean like I said, they're every three
feet in that first aisle.
You can't get away from them.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Well, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
And I'm convinced they're going to catch on to me
and they're going to start now.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
They're going to be in the back.
Yeah, they're going to be inthe back.
Yeah, Well, the parking lotlooks like it's not that full
when you get in there and youstart.
Oh, it's not bad.
And before you know it, it'slike I can't even turn my car on
.
Where did these people?
Come from yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
And I hate them people that Two carts, two
different people and twodifferent people and they're
standing and talking.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Please.
Or you've got the guy shoppingwho's on the phone with his wife
and she's telling himeverything.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
And he says, where's that at?
That would be me.

Speaker 6 (55:53):
That's at any store.
That would be me.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Gotta love that too.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
But you go to Walmart .
We used to shop our old.
We used to go every Sundayafter church We'd go shopping.
You kind of knew where stuffwas at.
Now you go down there today andyou go tomorrow and everything

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is moved Every month.

Speaker 5 (56:22):
It's rearranged Drives me crazy my home health
patients who had breathingproblems would say you can't
even go shopping because I gettoo short a breath to walk to
the store, because theyrearrange all the time and I
don't know where anything is so,then you're walking around
trying to find everything.

Speaker 6 (56:39):
You know why they do that.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Because you see things you normally don't see,
so you have to walk around andyou see things and spend more
time and you buy more.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
That's what I was going to tell you.
I've been in retail and used toreset my store and other stores
.
All the time I've been part ofreset, they're like, yeah, this
is what influences people to buymore stuff yeah.
You know, like all of a suddenthey're putting cereal in the
first aisle.
It's going to make people buymore cereal.
Sometimes I'm like what?
Yeah.
You know, some of it justdoesn't make any sense.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (57:10):
But some of it does you know?
Yeah, yeah, you start makingpeople it does to the retailer.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Because they think this, they'll put five more
items in their cart.
We get everybody to put fivemore items in their cart yeah,
twenty dollars sales will be up.

Speaker 6 (57:34):
Yeah, sales will be up or more were we talking about
aldi's here the other last week, week before.
No they, they rearranged which.
I don't go there a ton, but Iwent there today and I was like
ah crap I actually like.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
I mean, and now that I'm getting used, to the layout,
the aisles seem wider they doyeah I don't know how, but they
do they really do.

Speaker 6 (57:56):
Yeah, because I noticed the same thing.
Like I normally don't reallytake a cart, because normally I
don't grab a ton there, likeI'll just get a little, you know
basket.
But I had Cooper today so I hada cart, but I was like there's
a lot of room well, do youremember during COVID, they had
traffic signals.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Yes, they were like one way, you go this way, you go
that way.
I think it should still be thatway.

Speaker 6 (58:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Yeah.
I think they still have thistraffic yeah.
Actually, that was one thingfrom COVID I liked, I was like
oh yeah.
Now you can actually get downthe aisle.

Speaker 6 (58:31):
I do feel like Save-A-Lot kind of has that
layout Like you almost should dothat little snake thing.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
You mean?
Yeah.
Yeah, so yeah, that was cool.
See, we're covering retailtoday, yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Yeah, well, you know we hit all kinds of subjects.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
We did.
We hit the All the importantthings, we hit the bulletins.
You know, on the Covered itwithout cover.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Yeah, that's us I always do.

Speaker 6 (59:00):
Oh, is that it.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
It's the.
What is it Hard to show?
Sometimes it's hard to showJesus when you're shopping.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Oh yeah.
I like to give people a lot ofgood advice when I'm shopping.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
No, it's not necessarily spiritual advice, is
it?

Speaker 6 (59:19):
Especially when you've got a child with you and
you're like what are you doing?
I gotta go, I gotta go, let'sgo.
Do you not hear this childcrying?
Right now Go.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
Maybe there's some old people.
They can't hear.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Or everybody wants to touch him.
Oh, he's so cute.

Speaker 6 (59:36):
Like yeah, until he bites you.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
I always have that luck of whatever it is that I
need, somebody will be standing.

Speaker 6 (59:46):
Oh, for sure.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
And they're looking at pickles Like hmm, Looking at
pickles.
Do I get spears?
Do I get Chips?

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Just pick and go.
It's kind of like when I gothrough a drive-thru and
somebody's up there forever.
I'm like they haven't changedthe menu, Maybe the prices, but
the menu has not changed.
How many times have you comehere?
You know what you want.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
And I'm just not a person that can go.
Will you excuse me?
I just need to reach down there.

Speaker 6 (01:00:15):
Oh see, I am.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
I do now.
Yeah, I do too.

Speaker 6 (01:00:23):
Excuse me?
Yeah, I do too.
Excuse me, I'm just gonna reachright there.
Yep, but chase, chase, isn't?
He's like he'll just patientlywait and then he'll get in the
car like these people I'm likewhy didn't you just say excuse
me?

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
sometimes in your mind you're thinking it ain't
gonna last that long, right,right, yes I was thinking.

Speaker 6 (01:00:35):
I was actually thinking that today, like
someone was behind me in theaisle and I was just taking my
good old time, like the oldiefinds like that aisle, and I'm
like I wonder if she's likeacting like she's looking at
something to kind of get me tomove.
But I'm like, oh no, because Ido that sometimes with like if
I'm behind someone I'll act likeI'm looking, but then I'm like

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come on, keep going, it's morepolite to act yes, like you're
looking for.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Didn't say excuse me yeah, I need my fifth bottle of
ketchup yeah well, we got enoughketchup and mustard for the
boating for all summer long andall winter.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
You got enough for the whole line, don't?

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
you Summertime around Memorial Day at Sam's Club
they'll have the ketchup mustardrelish.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Yes, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
They still have that.
I don't like sweet relishthough.

Speaker 6 (01:01:35):
I don't either I like dill relish.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
And you don't see that very often.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
That used to be in a little jar, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
My wife makes some awesome.
I mean, I could just eat it outof the jar.
Green pepper relish.
It's good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Well, this one makes really really good hot mustard
too.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
Oh I love it.
There you go.
Give her about eight jars ofthat mustard.
I can Uh-huh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Yeah, do some bartering, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
I'll provide the mustard, you provide the peppers
.
I need more of the gardens.
It's between who in the worldwould think deer and genetan.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
Oh yeah, right, oh oh yeah, I've seen them right
downtown.
I've seen them right downtownbarnhill yeah, that's what I was
.

Speaker 6 (01:02:29):
Yeah, my, uh, my stepmom does the mail like by
buckeye school and one of thoseallotments she was like there
were like three deer right there, yeah.
And actually she said my sistershe lives right off of i-70,
like almost by the pickeringtonexit, there's a ton of shopping
plazas there and she lives in acul-de-sac like 0.2 miles away

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had two deer right there.
What's going?

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
on.
It's like linda's friend shelives in in uh, actually it's in
philly yeah in the boulevard.
Uh-huh, she's got a picture oftwo big bucks right in her, in
her yard yeah it's crazy rightdowntown, I mean it's busy road,
yeah, oh yeah, the boulevardbut, yeah, it's crazy of course

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I got a couple out of the housetoo, so Well, yeah, but that's
understandable, You're a littleout there.

Speaker 6 (01:03:28):
Yeah, I'm out there, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
I kind of live far away too.

Speaker 6 (01:03:36):
Yeah, yeah, I'm actually surprised that like
that road turns into into gravel, but I'm surprised yours isn't
gravel right there no right infront of the house.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Well, it's all chipped and sealed now is it
yeah, okay see, when we firstmoved out there from the church,
yeah, where it was chipped andsealed.
Yeah, yeah, that used to.

Speaker 6 (01:03:57):
That was dirt oh yeah , the Pony Express came out
there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Guys, have you noticed that Michael has not
said a word?
Yeah, is he okay over there?
I think he's sleeping I don'tthink we mentioned that he
wasn't here.
I don't think we did, we justrolled right along.

Speaker 6 (01:04:21):
I wonder how long it took to notice.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Oh wait, no, did we, we did, we did we said that they
, yeah, but you didn't have thebutton push.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Yeah, did you Were we live then yeah, no.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Oh well, you just had the button push when we started
talking about the cats.

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
Enjoying some family time, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Yeah.
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
The cats that are all coming to Roger's house and
Margie's I'm going to have dropoff.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
No, no, Drop off.
My dogs don't like cats.
We have reached capacity.
I'm going to get one of thoselittle like you know, like the
hotel, max capacity.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Tiny rooms have like maximum capacity 11 cats.

Speaker 6 (01:04:57):
Yes, 11 cats.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
Yes, no cat vacancy, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
No vacancy here you know what, margie, when these
kittens come, can I just bringthem to you and you can tame
them down, and then we can findthem home.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
That doesn't work.
She doesn't give them away.

Speaker 5 (01:05:12):
Now she's attached.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
It takes like 15 minutes and she's attached
Because if they're a baby, ohyeah, that's it.
It's just a baby, you have tomake them those barn cats, I
know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
There's the thought of them not being fed.

Speaker 6 (01:05:30):
They'll be fed.
They'll eat.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Yeah, they'll eat.
It won't be warmed up.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
Well, yeah, it'll be, it's fresh, it'll be warm.
Mice are warm-blooded.
I just see her in the.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Sheba commercial where they ding the little cup.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
There comes a whole line up.

Speaker 6 (01:05:52):
There's a funny story about my grandma.
The crystal thing.
Yeah, she still has this cat andshe didn't have this cat for,
like, I don't know, I thinkmaybe the first couple of years,
like she's.
She's had Max for probably fiveyears by now.
This is probably within thefirst year and a half and she

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was like either.
No, she was sleeping, it was inthe middle of the night and she
feels, she feels something onher chest, and she wakes up
there's, there's a dead mouse onher chest.
And she wakes up, there's adead mouse on her chest.
Oh, he brought her a nicepresent.
Look, mommy, look what I didGood job.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
She's like ah, I have to take moles out back outside.
Oh yeah.
My dog.
They'll catch a mole.

Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
My dog has tried to bring things inside, but One of
our outside cats.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
It got a bat.
I don't know how it did it, butit brought a bat up to the
porch.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Was it dead?
Yes, Decapitated.

Speaker 5 (01:06:54):
Yeah, my brother's dog brought in a rabbit, put it
on their bed.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Was it an Aussie Newsome cat?

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
Yeah, my goodness, that's a tough cat.
You're going to change his nameto Ozzie.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Yeah, those poor cats .
I'm just worried about them,poor cats.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Let nature take its course, it'll be all right.
And right now, now margie'sgoing.
I've said that to her before.
Margie, why can't you just letnature?
Take its course that's aboutthe worst thing I could say to
her.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, likegod's will be done god's's will

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not.
Margie's.
I think we've proven we're goodpeople.
Let the cats go.
We've done our share.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Mine all started with I was feeding that tomcat.
And then he brought his womanhome.
At least he gave her the house,at least on the bench.
At least he gave her the house.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
He lives down the street with his girlfriend.
He's like you stay here tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
I'm going down the house, down the road for a
couple days A week Shows back up.
He's all beat up and I'm outthere trying to put Antibiotic
sap on a bloody ear.
Alright, whose turn is it topray there trying to put
antibiotic sap on a?

Speaker 6 (01:08:23):
bloody ear Alright whose turn.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Is it to pray?
I think it's Nick's.

Speaker 6 (01:08:28):
No, dawn, it was you, dawn, beth, it's you, it's you,
okay, thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Are we ready?

Speaker 6 (01:08:41):
ready, I thought oh, I have to hit the button.
That'd be nice.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Yeah, let's hit the button, this one oh my god, we
can do it without music whatthere wait?

Speaker 6 (01:08:58):
oh, that's.
That's the Marky Minute.
Get me out of here, lord.
Oh, that's the Marky Minute.
Get me out of here, lord.
Okay, it's not working.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Dear Heavenly Father, we just thank you for this
opportunity to come and sharestories and just have fun.
And, dear Father God, we justpray that you give us, each and
every one of us, boldness sowhen we're put in that position,
that, instead of offering justgood advice, that we actually

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offer spiritual advice.
And we ask that you just get ushome safely tonight, dear
Father God, and that you justput a hedge of protection around
us as we travel.
In Jesus' name, we pray Amen.
Amen.