How Does Your Faith Determine What You Watch on TV?

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Ever wondered how to sneak past those pesky service cancellation fees? Join us as we unravel a clever personal strategy that might just save you some cash and discuss how faith and values influence our TV habits. We also take a fascinating detour into the dark world of true crime, pondering the chilling realities behind infamous figures like Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy. Through the eyes of devoted investigators, we seek a sliver of positivity within these grim tales, while balancing the darkness with recommendations for lighter, quirky historical podcasts to cleanse the palate.

Our conversation then meanders through the heartfelt and humorous pathways of family life, touching on everything from addiction recovery to the amusing chaos of planning family vacations. Stories of children’s innocent questions about the world around them provide laugh-out-loud moments, while highlighting the importance of teaching inclusivity and understanding. As we reminisce about old Westerns and classic TV shows, we reflect on how these cultural staples have shaped and shifted societal norms over the years, offering a warm dose of nostalgia and cultural insight.

For those bitten by the travel bug, our episode wraps up with tales of adventure from airport escapades to the thrill of planning a first-time cruise. We even toss around some lively discussions about changing geographical names and the hilarity such changes might incite in future generations. As technical glitches slip in, we smoothly transition to a reflective moment of gratitude and prayer, hoping to leave you with a smile and a newfound appreciation for the twists and turns of everyday life.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:37):
All right, can I get my Kimball update now?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, okay, so I finally.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
I finally beat the system.
So let me rephrase that.
I think that maybe they haven'tfigured out that I've beat the
system yet.
So I got an email from the guyand he says hey, I got.
I know that you want to cancel,like you're really unhappy.
He's like, but if you keep yourcontract until September of

(01:01):
2025, you won't pay any fees.
Well, that's seven months.
If you buy out your contract,which is what they want me to do
, you have to pay for six months.
So, paying for one more monthplus, I get all the service
cancel, no penalty, right?
Here's the problem that hehasn't apparently figured out
yet.
Our contract doesn't expireuntil sometime into 2026 or 2027

(01:21):
.
I signed a new one when we wentto weekly pickup and I know for
a fact that that's the case.
I looked through my email.
I can't find the new contract.
But I know for sure that I did.
But he doesn't know that.
So I'm running with it.
I'm like you know what?
Yep, absolutely, we'll do that,we'll do that and that's why I
was going to cancel it, becauseI knew we were like two more
years at least because the threeyear terms and it hasn't been a

(01:42):
full year since I switchedbecause we were weekly when we
first got the dumpster.
I switched to biweekly orbi-monthly.
Is that every other?
However, twice a month.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
And then biweekly, okay, biweekly.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
And then I went back to weekly and every time you
change your service schedule.
You sign a new contract, so Iknow for a fact that I'm 2026,
2027, but he thinks 2025.
We're gonna take it, so I'mhappily pay them so hopefully
he's not listening.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, yeah, even if he is, I've got the email to
prove that.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
That's what he told me, so right yep there we go.
There's the kimball update, NiceI also have one of our other
businesses is expiring inSeptember October of this year.
Maybe that's what he wasthinking about.
That's kind of what I thoughttoo.
I wasn't going to say that, buthe emailed us and said that he
received our cancellation.
I'm like well duh, we sent it ayear ago that we would be

(02:37):
terminating our contract at theend of the contract date.
So I called another trashcompany today, and they're
coming on Tuesday to give us aquote for replacing it in
September.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, and they always , every time I talk to Kimball,
they always tell me like, oh,that company has environmental
and service fees and they haveadministration fees.
And I sent them copies of mybills with none of those fees on
any of my bills.
I have like seven accounts withthem.
Not a single one of those feeson any of my bills.
I have like seven accounts withthem.
Not a single one of those feedson any of them.
And they're like well, maybeyou're just a really lucky
customer, but if you sign a newagreement, you're certainly
going to have this.
I'm like, whatever you say, I'mlike I ain't paying them right

(03:09):
now.
So, yeah, always good fun, loveit.
What's today's topic?
I don't know, I don't know, Idon't know.
Is it this one?

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Or television.
Oh, you're right, it is.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Okay, how does your faith influence what you watch
on TV?

Speaker 5 (03:29):
and look at on the internet.
There's nothing on TV worthwatching.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
That's a great answer .
It is a pretty good answer.
Real quick question how many ofyou have ever heard of the
musical Avenue Q?
No, I didn't figure.
Okay, we'll talk about it, butnot right now.
I need you guys to sin a littlebit before I do, okay.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
I'd say, in the last year the Holy Spirit has really
worked on me on that.
If there's something on that isoffensive, I just won't watch
it.
Explain that.
What do you mean by offensive?
Worked on me on that?
Um, just because if there'ssomething on I did it's
offensive, I just I, I won'twatch it explain that.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
What do you mean by offensive?

Speaker 5 (04:06):
because offensive is different to everybody so, um,
like I talked about my husbandwatching mike and molly and
anything like vulgar, yeah,anything sexually whether it's.
It's just, even if they'remaking hints about it, it
disturbs me.
Yeah, I mean, I just that, Imean it's really changed.

(04:28):
I just like, and what I willsometimes get caught up watching
that he watches and then I'mlike, why am I doing this when I
have to leave the room?
Is that Bar Rescue?

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Oh, I've never watched that show.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
It's foul.
I was going to say.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
I was going to say I think I've seen clips of it and
the guy that's rescuing the bar,he goes in there and he starts
just dropping some seriouslanguage.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah, it's the foul language.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
And listen.
I can keep up with the best ofthem.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
I really can.
Is it like Hell's Kitchen kindof yes, same concept.
Up with the best of them, likeI really can, but like hell's
kitchen kind of yes, sameconcept okay but so here's my
thing.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
This is not everybody's gonna agree with me.
Most of you probably won'tagree with me at all, but in my
mind, when I say a swear word, Idon't swear at people.
Do you know what I mean?
Like you sob, or you know, I'mgonna knock the whatever out of
you.
Like I don't, that's just neverbeen my gig, but I'll dang it,
things like that.
That happens pretty frequently,but I very seldom am ever

(05:28):
directing it at people andalmost every one of those shows
that you watch they're alwaysdirecting it at people.
And I'm not justifying sayingit at all.
I'm saying that for me.
There's a rationalization in mybrain whether it's right or
it's wrong, but I just I don'tknow why.
Like when you watch a show andI remember um, manifest, have

(05:50):
any of you ever watched manifest?

Speaker 3 (05:51):
on netflix.
I watched the first the firstseason.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Good, stop, because everything past the first season
is garbage.
Um, that show was I think itwas a netflix original, but it
was filmed in canada or owned bya Canadian company First couple
of seasons super clean youmight hear the D word or
something like that, but it wasvery, very, very clean.
Then Netflix took it over inthe United States and all of the

(06:14):
sudden and I'm talkingcharacters that have never said
a swear word on the show beforeare now swearing like sailors.
I'm like that doesn't make anysense to me, because you've
ruined the character and you'veruined the show.
So I didn't make it past seasonone of that show, but my wife
watched the whole thing andwhile she was watching it I
would catch a piece.
I'm like what, what happened?

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
And that's what it was.
It was the same with House ofCards, where the one guy was the
president and his wife was.
Yes, I think it was.
I think maybe that show ranseven seasons or something like
that was like season five.
All of the sudden, everybody'sswearing and this was exactly
what it was.
It was bought by a differentnetwork and just went downhill I

(06:53):
think spongebob.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Like that happened to spongebob they swear in
spongebob.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
No like.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Oh, I was like like new owners, but then not
necessarily that change of likeswear words, but you could tell
there was like a personalitychange between him and patrick,
new owner, who dis um, I willtell you my kids that is a tv
show.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
My kids have never been allowed to watch spongebob
and it's because they alwayscall people stupid yeah, they're
always calling names.
Yeah, and like laughing, likeyeah, yeah, laughing at one
another, yes, right and so likethey will see clips like um, the
, the clip where patrick isanswering the phone at the
crusty crab, oh yeah.
And they're like is this thecrusty crab?

(07:33):
No, this is patrick.
They call right back is thisthe crusty crab?
No, this is patrick.
On and on and on again.
And my kids will do that.
Yeah, they have never seen theepisode.
They don't actually get all ofthe funny, but and they've seen
the guy who went and ripped hispants, the song in the one
episode.
Like they see some of that, butthey definitely are not allowed
to watch that show on the reg.
Like we're pretty, I don't wantto say we're strict about what

(07:55):
they pretty careful Easton.
Though you can't really stophim, he finds ways around it.
If he figures out your passwordfor anything.
You can count on.
Whatever it was that you toldhim not to do, he's going to do
it.
He's going to do it.
We've learned that there aresome things you just don't say
to him.
They made an Elvis cartoon.

(08:18):
Did you watch that, nick?

Speaker 3 (08:19):
I think you were telling us about it.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
He was a secret agent , so elvis was always.
He always wanted to be a super,like he always thought of
himself as like.
Not thought of himself as yesyeah, um, but like identified
with um captain marvel jr yeah,something like that lightning
bolt yeah and so like.
He always had a fascination withcomic books, things like that,
so he's always like his dreamwas to have a comic book or a

(08:44):
cartoon made after him, and soPriscilla made that happen a
couple of years ago.
Easton desperately wanted towatch it and I told Alyssa I'm
going to watch it first, atleast some of it, to see how we
feel about it.
Right off the rip there's amonkey doing cocaine.
They're dropping the F-bomb.
I'm talking like it was.
Are you kidding?
They're dropping the F-bomb.
I'm talking like it was.
Are you kidding?
No, no, it was nuts.
And so I said to Easton that hecouldn't watch it, and he was

(09:06):
immediately angry because hewants to see it.
There was no way you could lethim watch that.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
No way Was there any premise to it.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
No, not really.
So he's a secret agent andElvis had a monkey.
Scatters was the monkey's nameand so that's the monkey in the
show, and I think it was justlike a funny tie to the fact
that Elvis had a monkey.
So that was the reason he wasin there.
But this monkey was just.
The whole show was off thechain.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
And I think I maybe watched.
Didn't you say it was on thekids part too?

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yes, you could watch it.
So, like Netflix kids, it wasavailable on Netflix Kids, which
was crazy.
I don't think it is anymore,but it was at the time.
But that was nuts, that wasabsolutely nuts.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
Turn him on to Tom and Jerry.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
You know what?
Here's the problem with Tom andJerry.
You know, at the beginning ofTom and Jerry it's like that.
Do not try this at home.
These are only cartooncharacters.
That's like the new thing, Didany of us, as kids, ever think
that we were going to lightdynamite in somebody's pants?

Speaker 4 (10:05):
No.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Did any of us think that dogs could walk on two legs
and talk?
Did any of us think that achicken could talk with a
stutter?
The answer no, but for somereason we have to tell kids
today that this is only acartoon.
There's something wrong withsociety, which is the reason
that we can't have toy gunsanymore.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Right, you know what I?

Speaker 1 (10:26):
mean.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
Yes absolutely.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
It used to be that toy guns and Nick, this is
probably true from when you werea kid, because I know it was
true when I was a kid theydidn't have the orange tip.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
No Like.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
I could have a.
It was green or black or youknow what I mean.
It looked like a gun.
You can't do that anymore.
They have to put the orange tipon the end, because kids are
carrying these things intoschool and you know it's nuts.
I saw, I remember, years agothere was a little boy who got
shot by the police.
He was carrying a squirt gun.
It had an orange end on it, butthey covered it with electrical

(10:55):
tape, so the cops thought hehad a real gun.
Oh, that was in cleveland,wasn't it?

Speaker 5 (11:08):
I don't know, I can't remember for sure.
Yeah, but like, what do you do?
What do you do?
Like you don't feel like youshould have to tell people not
to do that stuff.
But here we are.
I think, like, even like thepodcast I tried, I'm like nope,
nope, nope, can't do it so howdo you feel about like true
crime podcasts?

Speaker 1 (11:20):
I've been watching I'm a Murderer on Netflix.
Did I have?
I told you guys about?

Speaker 4 (11:26):
that you mentioned it last week.
Okay, I haven't watched it yet.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Great.
It's a great show because youget to see all of these people
who are in prison and they telltheir story first, and then you
get kind of a mix of thearresting officers or the
investigating officers andthey're like, well, that's not
quite how it actually went, butthey let them listen.
So like the inmate will get tolisten to what the arresting
officer said, like no, that'snot true, and then they'll speak

(11:50):
to whatever that.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
I think I watched one a few weeks.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
It is really, really good, but I mean, we're talking
about murder.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
We're talking about drug addiction and drug use, and
rape and all of the like reallynitty-gritty kind of gross
things.
That doesn't bother me.
It is the foul language though.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
Because that truly has happened.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
So that was going to be my question.
So if it's reality, it doesn'tlike.
If this is a okay, so how aboutlike a Jeffrey Dahmer
documentary or like a retellingof a Jeffrey Dahmer?

Speaker 2 (12:23):
story.
That's what I was going tobring up, is?
You know, a few years ago, likeI watched a, I think one was
John Wayne Gacy, one was TedBundy yeah, and I watched a
documentary and by the end ofthat I'm like why am I watching?

Speaker 1 (12:40):
yeah, why did I sit through that?

Speaker 2 (12:41):
and every time I watch it's like okay, now I have
to watch two hours of somethingsilly.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, right To even try to get this out of my head.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Just as a side note, the John Wayne Gacy thing is
bizarre to me the fact that hiswife lived in that house.
They said when they walked in,you could smell it, you knew
that there was something goingon.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
He just kept telling his wife like, oh, it's the
sewage.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Or this that I would have been like we sell in this
house and move in.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I can't go to the bathroom without Margie knowing
where I am, and what I'm doing.
It's like how is he buryingthese people under the house
when she's totally clueless?

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, absolutely clueless yeah absolutely
clueless to it.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, it's hard to fathom, but what I really like,
though, if anything out of thoseshows, is if, uh, the
investigators are part of it andthey're telling their yes I
really like that because youcould tell they're on a quest to
stop whatever and it's aprofessional, you know and you
can see all the sacrificethey're making to try to find

(13:40):
this person and stop them, andit's like that.
That at least makes it kind oflike.
Ok, yeah, you know somebodyhere is doing something good.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah, before you get to learn about them.
Before you started, nick, I wasthinking like, yeah, it's OK,
but then if you're like bingewatching something for a week
straight, like those, or youknow, or that's all you listen
to, is true crime, like you, youknow, or that's all you listen
to is true crime like and youknow, then that might be an
issue.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I don't know, so I haveto jump between podcasts right
now like I have an obsessionwith the best idea yet, so if
you haven't listened to it,absolutely listen to.
It's on the wondery app.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
It's fantastic, one of the best do you pay for the
wondery app?

Speaker 1 (14:14):
no, no, you can get them on apple podcast, you can
get them on spotify, you can getthem anywhere, but it's like
it's a wondery podcast that thenis distributed other places.
I'm telling you, if you justlike weird history about stupid
things, it's fantastic.
I just listened to the oneabout Reese's Peanut Butter Cups
.
It's well put together.
It's a fun thing to listen to,but at the same time I'm usually

(14:36):
listening to like right now I'mlistening to somebody knows
something.
It's about a girl who justvanishes.
She just vanishes.
Her boyfriend proposes to heron New Year's Eve on some
television show and she's neverheard from again.
That's it, that's the end.
And so her mom is desperatelytrying to find her.

(14:57):
They have no idea.
She didn't show up to pick hermom up from the airport, and
that's they knew something waswrong.
So it was the very next day andthey never found her.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
No idea where she's at there's one I listened to um
and like it happened inaustralia, there were like 49
episodes all an hour and a halflong geez oh, they like that.
Yeah, that's when I was workingsix days a week.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
I'm like, all right, another one roll that beautiful
bean footage see, I like thecrime stories, but most of them,
even though it's, it can bebrutal or you don't have that
foul language yes, typically yesit's not a lot of swearing and
things like that uh

Speaker 3 (15:37):
and I think, like to go back to it, I think we're all
so interested in those thingsbecause we're all like it's just
fascinating, like how doessomeone like us, who grew up in
a small town or something, youknow, how do they get to that
point where they start to thinkI'm going to eat people?
You know like it's just I thinkI read something or heard
something like it's fascinatingfor all of us, because it's just

(16:00):
like we can't imagine.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Doing.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yes, and like how the human brain works, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
I will say this though and I preached this maybe
two weeks ago, I can't rememberfor sure but we want to, we
want resolution, and so welisten to those things looking
for resolution.
We get obsessed with serialkiller documentaries because,
like you said, we want tounderstand it, we want
resolution, we want finality asto why it happened.
The fact remains is it doesn'tmatter.
We'll never have an actualunderstanding.

(16:26):
John Wayne Gacy just didn'tthink he was doing anything
wrong.
He genuinely thought this isnormal.
Jeffrey Dahmer, he knew he wasluring people into his apartment
and that wasn't okay.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
He would say I wanted to stop.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yes, whether that was true or not, I don't know but
he would say that like I wantedto stop.
There was so much of it that Ithink is learned behavior in my
opinion.
So like and I'll just be honestwith you, like easton, I don't
think he's serial killing, butlike he'll say things like I'm
sorry, I was bad.
He knows that I have toapologize in order to get my

(17:02):
tablet or in order to like.
There's that like conditionedlearned behavior that I have to
do or say in order to get X Onthat I'm a murderer.
There's a guy this is a bizarrestory he started drinking at
the age of nine.
By nine, he was a full-blownalcoholic, is what he said.
Okay, this is his story.

(17:23):
So I don't know whether any ofit's actually true or not, it's
just the way he tells it.
By nine, he was a full-blownalcoholic.
By like 13, he was doing harddrugs yada, yada, yada.
Been in and out of jail hisentire adolescent and most bar
parks.
It inside says to a guy watchmy bike, he goes over to shoot

(17:45):
pool.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Oh, I watched pool.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
He looks up, notices his bike is missing.
He goes over to the guy where'smy bike?
The guy goes even if I knew Iwouldn't tell you, and they were
pranking him, they had takenthe bike outside and put it in
the of a truck or whatever.
This dude gets raging mad andstabs him three times and kills
him over a bike.
Okay, Because he's drinking,he's probably on drugs, and

(18:08):
that's what happens.
Right, our minds can't processLike I could never be so mad at
somebody that I stabbed them,right, yeah, Like even a Kimball
person, I could never be thatmad.
Like it's weird, speak foryourself, okay, I could never be
that mad.
It's weird, speak for yourself.
It's weird for us to think thatthat somebody is capable of
doing that.
So during the episode he'ssitting there and he's telling

(18:30):
his story and he says you know,I know that I didn't make the
right choice Under the influenceof alcohol and drugs.
I made a bad choice, I know,and I didn't mean to do that,
and my life should be betterthan it is.
That's what he's saying.
And then they have like aforensic psychologist and she's
like yeah, but if you listen tohim, it's never about the victim
, it's never about the victim'sfamily.

(18:52):
It's always about him which is apsychological disorder, and he
is exactly where he needs to be,basically.
So he decides to transition.
That he's.
The reason that he did all ofthese things was because he
actually wanted to be a femaleand all of those psychological
issues were building up to thismoment.
He changes his name to EzdithE-Z-D-E-A-T-H.

(19:19):
E-z-death, d-e-a-t-h Easy death.
Now, what kind of insult isthat to the person you've
murdered, the family who's stillalive?

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, if you have any remorse at all.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Exactly, and he's like well, that wasn't my
intention, I just love the name.
I'm like no, no.
If you said your name was Mary,I would probably believe you,
because, right, it's a commonname but as death, spelled that
way just kind of feels like it'san insult.
And this whole episode he'stalking about how all of these

(19:53):
things that he went through as achild made him do what he did.
And I'm like no, because youcan stop, you can get help.
You chose not to.
And I'm not saying that therearen't people who, like,
genuinely struggle with thosethings.
There's some point when you'relike you're clean and you're
sober because you're in jail andyou're still making really poor
life decisions.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
No, you're just a jerk yeah, a lot of people blame
it on the generational curse ohyeah, for sure you know I've.
Oh yeah, I know it's.
I know it's bad around here,but I also have seen plenty
people around here who havebroken that.
So you know, I know it'spossible.
My children are two that have.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
Yeah, my daughter hates it when it's called a
disease.
Yeah, because it's not.
She said addiction isn't adisease.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
It's a choice.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
A disease is cancer.
Yes, she's like.
You don't choose to get cancer,but you choose to continue to
use drugs.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Now I can understand and again, maybe not a popular
opinion, but I understand howaddiction can feel like a
disease Absolutely, and themindset that you can't stop
Right exactly, and they don'ttake care of their mental health
Exactly.
I cannot go to a casino.
I can't do it.
If I go to a casino, I can'tstop, I don't know when to stop,

(21:11):
I will drain my bank account.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Dopamine hit, that's what I'm saying.
Listen, I can't go to Chuck ECheese because I'm like it's
give me all the tokens.
How many tokens can I get for$100?
That's it.
Let me go to the bank and getanother $100.
Chase and I have gone like twoor three times and we'll both
say, all right, $50 for me, $50for you.
And I'm the same way.
I'm like, oh, mine's all gone.
He's like here you can havemine.
I'm like, no, no, no, Ishouldn't.
But then I end up just takingit.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
I just can't do it.
And because I know that, I knowthat I can't go to the casino,
if anybody says to me, hey,we're going to go to the casino,
do you want to go?
The answer is flat out, no,somebody.
But that's a choice, right,like I know.
Trust me, I've done it.
I went with my sister one time.
I said I'm taking a hundreddollars in cash, that's it.

(21:45):
Well, they got atms all overthat place they just want you to
spend it?
yeah, well, yeah, because theyget like 20 bucks off of me just
for saying I want to keepplaying and I, we were playing
nickel slots and I was like 10minutes in and I'm flat broke
and my sister was like what,what?
I'm like max bet, baby, ahundred lines.
I don't know how this works.
I don't know how I'm going towin.
Just keep hitting the button.
It was nuts.

(22:06):
It was absolutely crazy, but Iknew that I just can't do those
things, and so I agree that thatpart is the disease.
The inability to stop is thedisease.
The choice to do it for thefirst time is not is made that
decision that this is whatyou're going to do.
I look at my cousin.
You guys all know her.
I won't use her name.
She did not come from a line ofdrug addicts or alcoholics.

(22:31):
She didn't come from a familywho didn't.
I didn't know a single personin my family who did any type of
hard drugs until her.
It was lifestyle.
It was the people that sheended up running around with.
It was the people she madefriends with and then it was
hard to kick yeah but man, whenshe did, when she finally beat,
it turned her life around.

(22:52):
You know, I mean, she's workingsix, seven days a week, making
as much money she can't puttingit in the bank so she can fight
for her kids, like that's what.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
That's what getting sober looks like yeah, because
you have a sober mind.
Yes, that you know has thewillpower to want to do it for
yourself and your kids.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Like yeah yeah, it's crazy, though, because when she
was using and I don't know whythey think we don't know if you
don't call them out on it, youdon't't know.
So it had gotten pretty bad andmy grandma's like we've got to
do something.
She's like I need your help.
So I went to my grandma's house, I called her and I said hey, I

(23:30):
need you to come to grandma'shouse and she's like basically
she's like I can't and I waslike, okay, well, I'm not
leaving here until you come.
And she's like, well, I'm fine,I like everything's fine.
I'm like no, you're not fine.
I said and quite frankly, Idon't even know if you're the
one texting me right now.
You could be dead and it couldbe somebody else texting me
pretending like you're okay, Ineed to see your face.
So it was like two hours sinceshe finally shows up.

(23:50):
She has a sty in her eye Likeshe is just looking rough.
Okay, another two, two hourssitting there.
She finally agrees to go todetox.
So I drive her to detox.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
My grandma and I drive her to detox.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
She's there for 48 hours and leaves.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
She ain't clean.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
It wasn't until she got picked up for something.
They forced her into rehab.
That's when she finally gotclean, and they didn't just
force her into rehab.
So she rolls up to rehab, beingdriven by the guy who she has a
protection order against.
Yeah, absolutely as soon as therehab saw him, they call the
cops.
He gets picked up.
So now he's out of her life.

(24:29):
Right yeah, so she stays inrehab, she gets out of rehab Now
she's clean, she doesn't havethat crowd following her around,
so now she's able to actuallyget clean, have a real life and
have a shot at getting her kidsback.
Yeah, Listen, she misses churchmost Sundays and that's because
she is at every wrestling matchthat her kids have Like for her

(24:50):
.
That's important to her becauseshe has been absent for so long
, absolutely, that she feelslike that's—.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
You know sorry.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
You're okay.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
She messaged me when the fasting started and was like
, hey, you know I did thefasting start yet for church.
I want to do it, but I don't.
You know, haven't been there ina few weeks.
I'm like I said, well, it juststarted yesterday.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
I'm like, but just go a day later, you know, jump in.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
So I was happy to see that she, you know, had asked,
so that was nice.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
You know, when we were young, it was what friday,
the 13th and freddy krueger,children of the corn we saw all
of those movies.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
I wouldn't dare watch one of those nowadays.
I'm a firm believer when youwatch that stuff in your house
it brings evil spirits.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
It's just so I we don't watch.
We don't watch scary movies.
Now again, I'm just, I'm justgonna stand over here, okay,
like my kids, like we've watchedhocusocus, which I know
everybody gets like kind ofcrazy about that stuff, and I'm
not advocating like, but weteach our kids that this is
fiction, this is not real, weare not witches, we are not
wizards, and so like we make avery clear definition as to what

(25:55):
this is.
This is a fun movie.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
That is it, just like Harry.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Potter Correct, and movie that is it.
Just like Harry Potter, correct.
And I'm not saying that that'sfor everybody.
I'm not saying everybody can dothat, because some people will
obsess over it.
And then they're buying theirkids Harry Potter wands and
they're walking around sayingmagic spells.
You're probably getting intosome dangerous territory there.
And there are some of thoseshows where I guess they were
using real spells in the show,like real witchcraft in the
shows, and while obviouslythey're not doing magic, we

(26:27):
would never, never allow ourkids to watch Nightmare on Elm
Street or Jason.
And again, it's because I knowthat my kids are not ready for
those types of things when theyturn adults.
If they want to watch that, ifthey can understand and process
that, fine, I'm going to behonest with you I can't watch it
without having nightmaresespecially the 80s horror movies
, because everybody's like, oh,they don't even hold a candle to

(26:50):
today's scary movies.
That's not true.
We've become desensitized tothat type of movie.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
What I was going to say is, I think, a lot of those
old horror movies, even goingback to the 60s, all that I
think for the most part theywere date movies, suspense
movies.
You took your girlfriend there.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
And she screamed and buried her head in your chest.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
They were made to give you a scare.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yes, you know which people like for some reason
people like to get scared yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
But now.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
I mean, but now these movies they're coming out with
it's like there's no scares toit, it's just blatant and it's
blood and gore.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
And that's what I was going to say.
Yes, I'm not watching any ofthat.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
To the point franchise I'm like.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Why are people watching this why?

Speaker 1 (27:34):
are you watching people cut?

Speaker 2 (27:35):
off their own limbs and a lot of times in the old,
in the old horror movies youstill had like a good guy.
Yes, the whole point at the endof the movie was okay, we have
to stop yes, yeah, good overcome, yes good overcome yes, yeah
these movies.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Now it's everybody dies and like yeah, no point.
So how many of us have seen theFinal Destination movies
sitting in this room?

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Maybe one, but no, I've never really seen those
Really.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Okay, so we?
That was the movie.
When I was a teenager.
I can't drive behind a logtruck without having like a
panic attack because in themovie one of the logs rolls off
of the truck and kills one ofthe people in the movie and the
premise is they cheated death.
They, like the one guy freaksout and they all get off the
roller coaster or whatever andthey cheat death in that moment
and so now death is coming forthem in like in all of these

(28:19):
unique ways.
That is not the kind of thing Iwant in my life we had a
classmate pass away from that.
From a logging truck.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
And I will not follow a logging truck, I don't care
how fast.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
I'm going.
It's exactly what I said I'mgoing to pass that truck.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
He was in the military, in a military caravan.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah, I said it doesn't matter to me If I have
to go 90 to pass that log truck.
I'm doing 90.
I don't care.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
I will not follow that logging truck.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
You don't have to worry about me.
Well, you do 90 into theparking lot.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Why won't you do 90 there?
We're giving you, we're givingyou a rake.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
So you can clean, scrape back up.
I reminded me my grandma.
She said her, not this grandmayou guys know, but my other
grandma, um, you know the greenbridge, like in janine, used to
be green yeah, now it's yeah,the one they blew up, yeah yeah,
well, my her cousin and herwould drive to school, you know
there and back.
And she, I think it was like thewell, my her cousin and her
would drive to school, you knowthere and back.
And she, I think it was likethe first day her cousin picked
her up to go to school and shegasses it past, you know, on

(29:18):
this bridge.
And she's like gloria, what areyou doing?
She's like I'm terrified ofbridges and would like gas it.
My grandma, like on her wayback from school, I think it was
.
She's like stop the, I'mwalking across this bridge.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
She totally didn't pick me up on the other side.
Listen I used to watch soapoperas when I was young the
daytime soaps and the eveningsoaps, oh yeah.
But I quit watching thosebefore I even became a Christian
.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
It's like that was all about sex and, yeah, my
grandma used to watch.
So we would get off the bus onPacker Street and we would walk
up the alley to our house.
But before we did that, wealways went into grandma's house
and we had something to eat.
It was either whole potatoescold out of the can or cold
ravioli out of the can.
Those were my jam.
She always had a stock for me.
Okay, so we would go in.

(30:07):
Grandma would be asleep in thechair taking her afternoon nap,
but the soaps were on Edgy night, probably after school.
Never, like you didn't go inthe house and they weren't on.
And I don't know if this istrue or not, but I think my
grandma like purposely waited togo places until after we'd
gotten off the bus.
Probably Like she waited for usto get off the bus, come in the

(30:27):
house, do our thing and thenshe would go and do whatever
else she needed to do.
But it was like that.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
She wanted to make sure that her kids were taken
care of.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, I guess, or make sure we didn't do anything
stupid.
That's probably more accurate.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
But she wasn't a dumb woman.
And some of the daytime talkshows Jerry.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Jerry Jerry.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Oh, I watched that documentary.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Did you watch the documentary?

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah, that was good though, wasn't it?
Yeah, yeah, I was shocked.
It was only one episode.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yes, yeah, it was one really long.
It was more like a yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Yeah, wasn't it?
There was girls that worked atEmbers, that were on.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Oh, we had people who attended the church, which is
the same concept.
I mean it was smut.
Maybe it was smut and the thingis they pay you to come they
were like oh, we're getting newclothes, it's all expense paid
trip.
They put you up in a hotel,they feed you real well, and all
you gotta do is get on TV andfight act stupid.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
There was a Jerry Springer episode that the woman
came out on all fours with a dogcollar around her neck.
Her boyfriend was leading herand she was nude.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Oh geez, yeah, that was.
That was Jerry's thing.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
And I'm like nope, this is it.
Turn that off.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
What's funny if you watch it.
That was never Jerry'sintention.
He wanted a real talk show andhe did it for two or three years
.
It was absolutely boring.
And then they hired a newproducer who's like no, we, we
need to make this like latenight spicy, yeah.
And I mean the next thing, youknow, they're beating Oprah in
the ratings because nobody hadever beat Oprah ever, and Oprah
has doesn't even stand a chanceagainst Jerry Springer, and it

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was when it wasn't until thecouple killed each other.
It was a double homicidesuicide.
That they're like we're done.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
Yeah, I didn't realize that happened oh yeah,
yeah, they came on the show.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
So it was a husband, a husband and a wife and a
mistress.
They come on the show and themistress won't fight.
She won't fight them at all.
She's like you know what,whatever, because she was not
anticipating that, she was notthinking that they were going to
be that.
She thought she was coming onand it was going to be like
reconnection, whatever, like itwas going to be reconciliation.

(32:39):
And so she's sitting out there,the boyfriend or the husband
comes out and then he brings outthe girlfriend that he's been
seeing and I mean it's a totalfight.
This lady leaves the studio andthey tell her if you leave,
we're not flying you back home,you're going to figure out your
own way home.
She walks to the bus station intears.
Somebody buys her a bus ticketback home.
She goes back home, the othertwo fly home and eventually they

(33:01):
all kill each other.
Like I think I can't rememberif he kills the wife and then
the other wife and then himself,or like who did what, but or
like who did what, but it was adouble murder, suicide, and then
it was like we're done.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
And what was the one with?
The one guy was like that'swhere it drew the line for me
when he went to the hotel roomto like.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Oh my gosh.
There was a girl on there whocalled and wanted to be on the
show because she was a call girland her dad would call and hire
her.
So like she had, she was partof a service and he would ask
for her and she had to go.
And so she was like I want himto stop.
So the producers had to go tothe hotel rooms of each of the

(33:42):
people and like get them gearedup for the show.
He shows up to her room.
Dad's there they willingly yeah.
And he was like that's enoughenough, I've had enough, yeah,
and he quit.
It's bizarre, like the stuffthat people do on tv, and what I
can't wrap my head around ishow I get that.
In the 90s, tv was pretty likemostly clean, mostly clean, like

(34:06):
you were still watching cheersand you were still watching like
there was a lot of.
It wasn't quite I Love Lucy andI Dream of Jeannie Days and
Gilligan's Island, but it wasstill fairly clean.
You're talking Family Matters.
You're talking.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
More often than not, there was still a lesson.
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yes, Step by step.
What was the ABC?
They had the whatever theycalled their Monday night lineup
, but they had a name for itTGIF.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, the whatever they called their Monday night
lineup, but they had a name forit.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah, that was it.
That was their Friday nightlineup.
It was TGIF, yes, and so youhad Family Matters, step by Step
, full House, like you had aseries.
So it was all fairly clean.
So when Jerry comes out, likethis is all new and people are
interested, it's like going tothe carnival to see quote
unquote freaks yeah, which there?
Yes, yeah, there's like thispart of you that can't look away

(34:53):
.
But you know it's wrong, likeyou know it's not right to stare
and point and do those things,but but you do, you do it anyway
.
I don't remember where we wereat my whole family.
We were somewhere and I can't.
Maybe the kid was having ameltdown, but he was very

(35:14):
clearly had special needs.
Let's assume that he wasautistic or on the spectrum of
some sort, like I don't want toput him in a box, but there was
obviously and he was having likea serious, serious meltdown and
all of my kids are looking.
And I turned around and Ilooked and I said stop staring.
I said because each and everyone of you do that and you don't
have an excuse, like there's noreason for it, you're just bad,

(35:36):
like you're just misbehaving,and he's like I don't do that.
I'm like, dude, you're gonna dothat by the time we're in the
store like I'm surprised you'renot doing it.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
I know for a fact we're gonna do this at least
once today, uh-huh, and sothere's just that, like we want
to stare, but we know it's notokay to stare.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
I remember when McDonald's first had the indoor
playground, the one there on thebowl I took Sarah and Clayton
up there.
And there's his dad.
He's playing with his littleboy going down the sliding board
.
All of a sudden he goes downthe sliding board and his
artificial leg falls off.
Oh my gosh Sarah's at the top.
She ain't coming down.
She ain't coming down.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
It was horrible.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
And he's like no, honey, look, it's okay, I'll
just put it back on, and she'sgoing no way.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Just from a like a horrifying kid standpoint.
You know, when we were pickingAaron and Aiden up and we were
driving three hours every otherweekend, we stopped at the
Speedway in Newcomerstown onetime and we went in, I took
Aaron and Aiden in, we allbathroom that's kind of a bath,
quick bathroom, stop, grab adrink or whatever.
And we go back out and we walkinto the to the gas station and
there is a little person, beard,mustache like and Aaron goes,

(36:44):
that little boy has a beard,doesn't know, I mean, he's five,
maybe six at the time and theguy gives him a dirty look and
I'm thinking like, okay, if thatwere me saying that, I can.
He he genuinely thinks that.
And I said, aaron, you can'tsay that.
And he's like well, I just wantto play with him, like to him,
right, yeah, yeah, boy, it'stough, yeah, so it's just but

(37:12):
figuring out how you talk toyour kids about those things and
make them understand.
But so we again, just on thespongebob topic we won't watch
shows that we won't allow themto watch shows that call people
names and do mean things topeople, because it becomes
that's normal, right?

Speaker 3 (37:26):
so I will say, um, having a family member has it's
not a prosthetic leg, but it's afoot on foot, and her mom says,
you know, most people are ohhoney, don't stare, don't point,
don't look, you know, ask askyeah, yeah, what is that?

Speaker 5 (37:43):
You know?

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yes, I know that's a societal change, you know.
But yeah, like, because maybechances are mom doesn't even
know what that is, you know.
So, like, if your child doeslike oh, what is that mom?
Like, I don't know honey, maybewe should go ask them yeah and
then, hey, do you mind, mom,like can you explain more?

Speaker 1 (38:01):
like yeah, I one of the big things for me in
situations like that, like mikeI, that's never bothered me.
When it's a situation like that, it's hard.
Adeline has a really goodfriend who has a sister who is
handicapped and she's not of anage which you can explain the

(38:21):
severity of the handicap, justthat she is not capable of
running and playing and talkingand doing some of the things
that her sister can do.
But then Adeline looks at thatand goes but why is she like
that?
And her sister's not right, whyis she like that?
and her brother's, not whatever.
It's just like there is a fineline with trying to explain to
them and also being ageappropriate about how you
explain it, because you're notgoing to explain a limb

(38:46):
difference to a kid who's notgoing to understand a limb?

Speaker 3 (38:48):
difference.
You know it's, just's, justit's.
And at the end of the day, godmade everyone different.
Like that's, that's, that's allyou got to say.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
And my kids because of I worked in the nursing home
for 70 years and they were inand out of the nursing home.
I mean, at one point they cameto work with me, spent a half
hour there and their dad cameand picked them up.
Yeah, tomb to.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, yes, yeah I think sarah was probably about
three or four when that happened.
I think her little mind wasthinking if I go down my legs, I
used to go to what used to beshun brown nursing home.
Now it's divine regularly likeI was there pretty regularly
doing all this or whatever, justvolunteering.
And I remember I was there onetime and it became like a whole
ruckus and I had no idea whatwas going on.
But apparently one of thepatients took his prosthetic leg

(39:36):
off and beat the administratorwith it like was hitting the
administrator with it.
The administrator got put onleave because they had to
investigate it because the guywas saying the administrator had
done something to him.
Turned out this guy had donethese things in the past and had
been evicted from multiplenursing homes got evicted from
that one too.
Like what is the deal?
Like you get old, you think youjust beat people with a

(39:56):
prosthetic leg and get away withit he's gonna end up losing his
leg.

Speaker 5 (39:59):
They're gonna take it away, yeah repossess his leg I
think I'm like roger we jarvieand I watch a lot of the old
western oh yeah bonanza, what'dyou say?

Speaker 4 (40:10):
laramie, laramie which one's the gun smoke lot of
the old Western.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Oh yeah, bonanza, what did you say?
Laramie, laramie, which one's?
The bank, gunsmoke, the bank.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
The guys rides with the stagecoach, with the money.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Oh, wells Fargo, All right.

Speaker 5 (40:25):
And then there's the train where all the covered
wagons go together.
That guy, we watch that oneWagon train.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Wagon train.
I was going to say that's theone that Tina Newman was
watching the last time she wasin the hospital.
Hey, quick question about that,and I think we've covered this.
No, I think we covered this inthe cafe one morning.
So Western movies, generallyspeaking, are pretty innocent.
Right Like they're not bad.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
I mean, there's lots of shooting, but we don't see.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
It's not blood and gore and things like that.
Like you know, usually it's uh,yeah, whatever.
Um, how do we feel aboutblazing saddles, is that?

Speaker 5 (41:00):
inappropriate.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
I've never watched it it was appropriate at a time
when everybody had a sense ofhumor yes, exactly, you could
not make that movie today.
No, because you watch that andyou think how did these actors
all agree to do this?

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Nobody get offended, but they did.
They all had a sense of humoras long as everybody got treated
fairly.
The deal was we offendeverybody equally.
A Mel Brooks movie that was thedeal I like the old man, the
prospector?
I don't think, just don't sayit, because whatever he's gonna
say, I don't when the sheriff isoh yeah, when the sheriff's

(41:36):
coming into town, yeah yep likearchie bunker.

Speaker 5 (41:42):
Yes, how did he get away?

Speaker 1 (41:45):
well, because again the times were different, yes,
and again it almost.
And I'll be honest in myopinion watching, um, all in the
family, watching the Jeffersons, watching Sanford and son
because I watched a lot of thatI loved, loved, loved, loved all
in the family it actually kindof taught you a little bit of
stuff.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Cause it's not as obvious.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
The lessons are trying to teach you, but they're
there but what I realized veryearly on was I realized that,
okay, racism is not okay, rightlike to not like somebody
because of the color of theirskin.
And while archie may have beenthat way, like yeah, but a lot
of times it's clear, like youunderstand.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Like, okay, archie's being the jerk, correct.
That's what I'm saying, that'swhat I mean.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Like it taught you that because archie was being
the jerk, yeah, but I you alsolike when George Jefferson was a
spinoff character from all inthe family.
But when George would show up atthe house, although Archie was
mean to him, you could tell thathe still liked it, still
respected he's still right andthere was like because he had a
dry cleaner and like he it was,there was just that, like I
don't know how to describe it,but it was the same way when you

(42:48):
would watch the Jeffersons andGeorge would call what was the
white friend.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
No, the white friend, he'd call him a honky.
He's called Mike the Dumb Polox.
He's treating everybody with asense of criticism.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Edith's a.
He always had names for EdithDingbat.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Dingbat Just the way he treated his wife.
Who treats their wife like?

Speaker 1 (43:09):
that you knew that Archie was kind of the bad guy
quote unquote but there wasalways like a soft spot too,
yeah.
Yep.

Speaker 5 (43:17):
Jarvie always tells me come on, spit it out, Edith,
Spit it out, Spit it out Edith.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
I love that show.
I just felt like that was oneof those shows made forever.
They should have made forever.
Now I fun fact.
I love fun facts because, again, love that show.
They donated the chairs archieand edith's chairs to the
national museum of americanhistory and you can see them
there if you go.
However, after they donated thechairs they did a reboot and

(43:42):
archie and edith they had anextra season.
The museum would not give themthe chairs back, they had to
have reproductions made, uh,archie's place.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
yes, that was it.
Yeah, and they would not givethem the chairs back, they had
to have reproductions made.
Well, there was Archie's Place.
Yes, that was it, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Yeah, and they would not.
They wouldn't give the chairsback, so they had to go have
replicas made of the chairs.
But you know, that's one of myfavorite museums.
If you ever get a chance to goto DC and go there.
All of the museums in DC arefree.
Yeah, dc are free.

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Yeah, they don't cost youanything and you can walk to
most of them.
But that museum is super cool.
They have a kermit the frogpuppet, so you can see kermit.
They have oscar they the grouch.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
They have one of the pairs of the ruby red slippers.
Is that the one that has theworld trade center?

Speaker 1 (44:22):
yes, antenna, yes, that's really you can see like
pieces of the iron from theworld trade center.
You can see the flag that wasthat they hoisted to the top of
the rubble.
I mean it's a really coolmuseum.
It costs absolutely nothing.
It's like again that culturethat you get to experience.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Just don't go in the middle of summer.
You're elbow to elbow withpeople.
It's no fun.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Alyssa and I went, just her and I, and we walked
the whole thing.
I mean most of it, we scootered, we would get those little like
scooters.
We would just scooter around.
And then we walked, we stoppedand had lunch at like a little
tiny hole-in-the-wall restaurant, and then we walked to the
museum where you could see allof the paintings the National

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Art Gallery, Is that what it'scalled?
We went there because shedesperately wanted to see
Michelle Obama's portrait.
You want to talk aboutdisappointing?
Because in photos it's prettycool.
You see it in person, you'relike that thing is ugly, it
looks nothing like her.
This thing is hideous.
But it's a cool museum to seebecause you get to see the
portraits of the presidents thathave been painted.
Yada, yada, yada.
Anyhow, we decided we weregoing to take a taxi from there

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to the White House because wewanted to see the White House,
we wanted to see the outside ofthe White House and it was the
only place that we really hadn'tbeen.
It was like $22 and it was likefour blocks, but we were in the
cab forever because youcouldn't get across town.
It was ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
So, but we enjoyed ourselves.
You couldn't even really getclose to the White House.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
No, and they had the fence up like in front of the
other fence, so it was there wasentertainment out in front,
like it was not like, yeah, paidentertainment, but it was like
street performers.
Yeah, it was a neat experience,alissa, and I would totally
take the kids to do that, but weobviously couldn't walk the
whole thing because, geez, kidswould die.

Speaker 5 (46:03):
Yeah, I have a wagon.
You want to borrow it.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
No you know my next trip.
I have decided that I'm doingthis and again maybe this is a
great topic of conversation evenlive shows, like I'm a little
bit iffy on live shows anymoretoo.
I love theater, I love Broadway, but when I first started
pastoring here, I was in a showcalled Company and it was about
a guy who was having like amental breakdown, basically, and

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I played a character thatsmoked weed and like it was a
little on the iffy side.
I played a character thatsmoked weed and like it was a
little on the iffy side.
But anyhow, I think theater isa little bit different when
you're in the show.
I don't take that as areflection of myself.
It's a reflection of thecharacter that I portray.
Now I do my best to try tostick to stuff that's not super
controversial.
There's a new version ofGodspell, which is the gospel

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according to Matthew in playform.
They sing day by day and youknow.
It's the story of Jesus, of hisministry.
However, the 20, the 2007 mayberevival version, is very
political.
And so I just tried it like I've.
I won't be in that show and Ireally won't go see that one

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because I feel like it ruins thegospel.
Like you you're trying topervert the gospel with politics
.

Speaker 5 (47:13):
And so I try to avoid that.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
But I just saw yesterday that Milo Manheim.
Does anybody know who that is?
He is a child prodigy star.
He was in a lot of the DisneyChannel movies.
He was just in Journey toBethlehem.
He played Joseph in Journey toBethlehem.
He played Joseph in Journey toBethlehem.
He is going to play Seymour inLittle Shop of Horrors on

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Broadway, and a girl from one ofthe shows that Easton watches,
victorious, which is aNickelodeon show, is going to
play Audrey in that same run ofthe show, and I have got to go
see it.
I'm just obsessed.
But I'm a little torn becausethe whole premise of that show
is about a plant that eatspeople and, like Seymour,

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murders people to feed them tothe plant.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
and so there's this like I mean, were you planning
on taking Easton?

Speaker 1 (48:07):
yes, because it's his favorite musical and he loves
both of those people who aregoing to play characters.
It was just going to be me andhim.
We're going to take basicallytwo days.
We're going to drive over seethe show, spend the night, drive
back home.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
Where are you going to see it?

Speaker 1 (48:19):
at New York City have you ever seen one on Broadway?

Speaker 3 (48:22):
I've never been to New York, really, I went four or
five years ago and I'm not ahuge person about plays or
musicals and I loved Broadway.
I mean, we only went and seenone show.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
What did you see?

Speaker 3 (48:35):
The Waitress, oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
Yes, yeah, I can't wait to go because my son and
his wife they go over, becauseshe grew up going over to New
York City.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Oh, I bet I'm worried about driving in the city Like
in Manhattan.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Why don't you just get something like 25 minutes
out, or something, because I I'mstill.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yeah, I don't want to uber I don't want to.
That's true with that I don'twant to uber in, I would much
rather so.
The hotel.
I have a friend who's shethey're new york all the time.
Like it's a day trip for them.
They'd love to go and they stayat the home two suites, which
is a 10 to 15 minute walk fromjust about any theater there.
It's like 136 bucks a night.
It's super inexpensive and it'sa quick walk.

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But you have to be willing todrive into Manhattan in order to
go, and so I'm a little bitnervous because I won't have a
co-pilot.
Alyssa won't go with me, soI've got to watch the GPS, watch
traffic and I couldn't imagine.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
One time I was there in new york I was.
I was just amazed.
The traffic to me seemed like aschool of fish.
I don't know how they weredoing it, but they'd be going up
over the sidewalks and I can'tjust all and I'm like nobody got
in an accident, I'm justlooking at this like how is this
possible, all these?

Speaker 1 (49:46):
bikes that are doing yeah in the bike lanes and yeah
delivery now yeah, they'recutting everybody yeah that's
amazing yeah.
So I'm a little bit nervousabout that, but I really want to
do it.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
I desperately want to take him and I thought maybe we
fly in I was about to recommendthat because I don't think you
realize how big new york is well, and it's an eight hour drive.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
It's eight hours to drive to new york.
If I can fly out of AkronCanton Airport into New York and
then Uber to the hotel and thenUber from there or even walk
from there, that to me wouldmake me feel a little bit better
.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Yeah, that was my first time flying was going to
New York.
It was a bumpy turbulent.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Yeah, I don't like that.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Trying to land, I was like, right now I'm going to
get sick.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
My very first flight ever.
This has nothing to do withwhat we're talking about.
My very first flight ever wasfrom Akron Canton Airport to
Chicago O'Hare, from ChicagoO'Hare to Bentonville, arkansas.
I was part of a select group ofpeople that got to fly to
Bentonville, arkansas for aprogram that we had piloted for
Walmart.
I piloted a big inventoryprogram and I got to like I was

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in a commercial.
It was a really cool littleshtick that I got to do, super
awesome.
Um, and it was one row of seats, like one seat on this side of
the plane, two seats on theother side of the plane, and
there were very few people.
It's middle of the night, veryfew people on the plane.
Um, there was a family in thevery back corner and the lady,
as soon as she got on, she askedBarf bags.

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She pukes the whole flight.
I'm talking from the time wegot in the air to the time we
landed and I've got myheadphones on and I am
desperately.
I'm like Lord, I can't, likeI'm going to die, I can't take
this, because that noise makesme want to puke and I didn't
realize how badly I would getmotion sick in the air.
So we landed in Chicago, I didnot realize there was a big time
difference and so I'm thinkingI've got three minutes to get to

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the other side of the airport.
I'm booking to the other sideof the airport to find out I had
an hour, which was fine,because then I had time to go
find Dramamine and take a nap,because I was not getting on
that next plane, otherwise I wasgonna die.
And honestly, this is not a joke, this is not a joke.
This is not a joke.
This is real life.
We take a uh, it's a, it's gotpropeller, like it's, not like a

(52:00):
jet turbo prop, yeah so them,them stink from chicago o'hare
to bentonville, arkansas, and weland at a cow field.
It was basically, it was, uh,tyson chicken tyson chicken we
landed in their place, like theyhave.
They had an airstrip there fortheir corporate planes to land.

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That's where we landed, andthen they bust us from there
over to where we were going in,bentonville Nuts nuts.
And then on our way back therewere hundreds of us that had to
fly back from Bentonville, causethere was there isn't an
airport in there, hundreds of usthat had to fly back to catch
other flights in other places,and so they couldn't get the
planes in fast enough to get usall out.
So they show up with boxedlunches of chicken.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
I was like, hey, I'm not going to complain, wow.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
I just watched a documentary about the airplane
food.
It's pretty interesting, is it?
Yeah, most of the time theymake it's pretty interesting Is
it.
Yeah, Like they most of thetime.
They make it fresh, like at theairport.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
There's really yeah, and then they ship it and then
put it in the boxes.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
I mean, some places aren't that way, but a lot of
them are.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
I was like I've never had food.
I've only ever had a snack.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Same ever had a snack , same.
I was like I didn't know thatthey were making all this, like
I always just, yeah, I've neverhad a meal.
I mean, I've only flown two orthree times, but yeah, yeah, I
never had a meal to um.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
We flew into italy with the kids, with school, and
so we went from african cantonto chicago.
From chicago, we got on agerman airline and flew into
germany, and then switchedplanes.
Well, back in that day, I, Iwas a big girl.
Well, that little tray didn'twant to come down.
So those they're bringing, theyfeed you a meal.

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So the tray don't want tocompletely down on my belly.
And I got.
I'll never forget that Germansteward guy said maybe you don't
need this.
I just wanted to lay him out.
I just said, well, I'll taketwo of them.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
So you can't fly from Akron Canton, not on Breeze
Airway, because that's mypreferred, because it's fairly
cheap, it's very basic.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
Oh, it's very cheap, but it's very cheap.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
It's like $39 a flight, but you can't fly into
New York.
You can go to Westchester.
Breeze, yeah, breeze, dude.
I'm talking it's budget, though, like the way one wing is
usually held on with duct tape,like it's budget budget.
But I've never had any badthings to say about it.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
It's a little tight.
It's a little tight.
I think that's who we're flyingwith in July Seat four, seat
four four, seat four is that the?

Speaker 1 (54:39):
do you have the right behind?
So behind the?

Speaker 4 (54:40):
three first class.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Do you pick your?
Do you pick your seat?
Never me either.
Never me either.
I always just let them pick it.
But now, if I'm going to travelwith the kids, I'm going to
pick my seat because I want tolike lily and I got seat four on
the way back from florida I wehad two windows.
She could have slept on thefloor if she wanted to I flew me
, alissa, aaron and aidenidenall flew to Orlando to meet my
mom and dad in the three littles.

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They were going down for a longperiod of time.
We just went for one day justto surprise them and we let the
airlines pick our seat.
We always got two together, butit was usually two here two up
there whatever, so it was alwaystwo together.
So on the flight down, on theflight down, alyssa sat with
Aiden, I sat with Aaron.
On the flight back, we let themsit by themselves together and

(55:24):
then we sat in the back but wesat behind them so we could
still see them to make sure thatthey were safe.
But yeah, I think if I tookEaston, though, I'd probably
have to pick my seats, probablyhave to pick my seats just to be
generally, if you book together, they try to seat you together.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
I do like doing like southwest and then doing the
early check-in, like if you goon 24 hours before, you can like
pick where your seats are, likefor free.
So a lot of people just don'tdo it or they don't know about
it or something.
So if you want a window seat,you just click on it and what's
the other airline?

Speaker 5 (55:57):
I can't remember what I took Spirit no out of.
Akron Canton that goes to NewYork.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (56:06):
Do they have Southwest out of Akron Canton?
They used to.

Speaker 4 (56:09):
They used to have I don't know.
They used to.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
I've only done Cleveland.

Speaker 5 (56:13):
I'm thinking that's what I flew into New York.
Well, I'm trying to figure itout because but my teeth belt
fell out.
That Uber is like from there tothe hotel is like 62 bucks.

Speaker 4 (56:25):
Does Allegiant from Rickenbacker go into New York?
Where's Rickenbacker?
Columbus, columbus?

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Oh, I don't like the Columbus one.
Well, I don't mind the Columbusone, I don't even mind the
Cleveland one.
We flew out of Cleveland whenwe went to Orlando.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
I like Pittsburgh.
I fly out of.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Pittsburgh.
I don't mind any of those, butwith Easton it's such a hard
down when the plane lands then Ihave to drive an hour and a
half or two hours home.
That's a real challenge.
Because he's ready to get outof the car.
He's been bundled in.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Like he's well, and I mean columbus, I think it was
like two over two hours likecoming home and I don't know.

Speaker 5 (57:06):
Then you just had to go through the traffic yeah yeah
, and shy was a terrible driverbecause they don't drive like
you, don't I?

Speaker 4 (57:12):
know I'm like it doesn't take me that long um, so
interesting.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
It says that out of Akron Canton there are no
nonstop flights to New York.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
Huh, and I'm always wanting a nonstop.

Speaker 5 (57:26):
Me too, I don't want a layover, me too.
Where's the layover?

Speaker 1 (57:29):
It doesn't say, I'm looking at just where the
nonstops out of Akron Canton areand it gives you a list, but
New York's not on there.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
Check Pittsburgh.
It's an hour and 20 minutes.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
It's still a long drive with these things, I know,
but it's better in two.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
It's better in two hours.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
And it's an easy airport to get to.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Yeah, it is a really easy airport.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Okay Well, all right, marty and I want to do a
Christmas trip to New York.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Oh, just take the bus , just take one of the buses,
yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
Yeah, certainly, we say that every year and we've
yet to Well, when we discoveredone this year.

Speaker 5 (58:01):
It was sold out.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
They sell out fast.
Yeah, they do, they sell outreally fast.
Oh man, I was going to saysomething.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
And if you do, go, go at night on top of the
Rockefeller Center and you canjust see all of New York like
lit up.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Oh, I was going to say this mywife has decided that we're
going on a cruise this year.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Might do that next year.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Yeah, it'll be our first cruise.
I have gotten some really greattips from some people I work
with who are like cruiseaficionados.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
It's what they do.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
There's this one cruise line.
I don't remember the name of itnow, but it's super
kid-friendly and next to nothing.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Really.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
I'm talking like $500 , $600 a person, and that
includes your taxes, your portfees, everything.
The only thing it doesn't coveris your gratuity, and it's a
seven-night cruise.
It doesn't cover your gratuityor drinks.
So if you want alcohol or soda,you have to buy their drink
package, which is yeah, ifyou're a water drinker, you're

(58:58):
fine.

Speaker 5 (58:59):
I would die, I would too.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Can I take soda with me, because I ain't going to
survive on this cruise.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Tommy and Skeeter would go on cruises all the time
.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
I've yet to be on one .
It's on my bucket list.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Here, I'll tell you real quick.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
I love those Viking cruise commercials.
Yeah, the I love those Vikingcruise commercials.
Yeah, oh those are rivercruises.
Yeah, no kids.
Obviously it's probably forretired people, but I think
that's the ticket right there.
They go on the Mediterraneanand all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (59:27):
I'd like to do one just down the Mississippi.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Well, so I was going to say my brother-in-law he was
on the sailing team at OU andhim and my father-in-law always
talk about going down the OhioRiver, then going all the way
down the Mississippi into theGulf, and I'm like, yeah, I mean
they want to do it before Bendies.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
So I'm like hey, it's MSC Cruises, msc Cruises and
I'm telling you like I justthere.
It's stupid, like that one's inNovember of 25.
So it's it's not like I'mbooking a last-minute cruise and
it's under $700 per person andthere are cheaper ones.

(01:00:05):
You can do shorter days,obviously, but that's a
seven-day Bahamas.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
I've always said I want to do a three-day first,
just to make sure.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Yeah, I'm the same way, so that I don't get seasick
.
But Alyssa is convinced thatwe're doing.
Five days is the minimum for usbecause we want to like, we
want to really get a chance torelax.

Speaker 5 (01:00:23):
Yeah, yeah, I've looked into them, but I would
have to go out of Charlotte orsome of those weird places
because Jarvie won't fly.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Really.

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
No, he won't fly.
You can go out of Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Yeah, or New York.
Even you can go out of New Yorktoo, but then those ones are
typically not tropical either.
Right, right?

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Yeah Well, the ones up in New York, you can start
going up north.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
I've seen yeah, oh yeah.
I want to do an Alaskan cruisedesperately.
My sister did that.
My one owner went on an Alaskancruise and he came back with
the best pictures of orca whales.

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
Oh, I bet my dad wanted to do that and I'm like,
oh my gosh dad.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
I'm not interested in the cold, but I want to see
whales so bad.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
I worked with a friend that she went in the
summer months.
It was 70 degrees.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Oh man, maybe I need to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
Yeah, she said it was 70 the whole time she was there
.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
I so badly want to go there.
She got to go to Germany.
She got to go everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
I want to go to Switzerland.
That'd be fun In the winter.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
I just want to go there to be neutral.

Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
My parents went to the one.
Is it the Panama Canal wherethey put the water in?
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Pan American Canal.
You mean, yeah, by the way,this is a fun story, so you know
we've.
There was an executive order torename the.
Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf ofAmerica.
Do you know why that is.
I don't know if this is true.
This is what I heard.
It's not just a.
He's not just doing it.
To do it, biden wrote anexecutive order that we cannot
drill in the Gulf of Mexico.
So he's changing the name tothe Gulf of America, hopefully

(01:01:56):
circumventing that order, andthen he'll be able to drill in
the Gulf of Mexico.
I don't know if that's true ornot, it's just what I heard.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Liquid gold baby Drill, baby drill but anyhow
that makes sense.
Yeah, yes.

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
Would be the way to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
I guess.
Yes, anyhow, I I heard todaythat on some of the chitter
chatter for Ice.
No, my goodness, graciousMeteorologists.
So they share information andwhatnot.
They now refer to it as theGulf of America, really and it's

(01:02:30):
not like they're not politicalat all, but it's technically
been changed.
So, yeah, I'm going to save themap on the wall.
Maybe it'll be worth moneysomeday.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Gulf of Mexico.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
Cooper's going to be like that's the Gulf of America.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
Gulf of Mexico.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
What happened.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
You guys, your map is dumb.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
I can hear it now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Well we answered it without answering it.
We've hit an hour and I guesswe're having some tech snafus in
the sanctuary, so whose turn isit to pray?
It's Beth.
We're back to the beginning.
You're back to the beginning,yes.
So all right, beth, you want togo ahead and pray for us?

Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
Dear Heavenly Father, we just thank you for the
opportunity to come before youtonight and just share what's on
our hearts and have some goodlaughs and just spend some time
with special friends.
And, dear Father God, we askthat you just bless all the
listeners and that you justbless us all with traveling
graces, dear Father God, and getus home safely.

(01:03:26):
In Jesus' precious name, wepray, amen.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
Amen.