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November 26, 2025 92 mins

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We swap beloved Thanksgiving dishes, laugh about cranberry sauce wars, and share the rituals that keep the peace when families gather. The talk widens to seasonal blues, year-round generosity, and the parenting choices that make holidays kinder for kids.

• favorite Thanksgiving foods and recipe memories
• cranberry sauce opinions and stuffing preferences
• family boundaries for holiday travel and hosting
• gratitude rituals that deepen meaning
• seasonal depression and practical coping
• generosity beyond December and who gets help
• gift equity, Santa strategy, and kid expectations
• screen rules, safer phones, and hard talks
• cruise food adventures, budgets, and Buc-ee’s detour


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SPEAKER_04 (00:37):
It gives me a headache sometimes.
We're on.

unknown (00:41):
Oh.

SPEAKER_04 (00:41):
I got you, East.

SPEAKER_08 (00:43):
Moose made it on the podcast.

SPEAKER_04 (00:45):
Make sure I got him.
All right.
So everyone knows what the topicis, right?
Yes.
Okay.

SPEAKER_08 (00:51):
I just found out.
So did I.
Well, she sent a text, to befair.
She sent a text and I read it,but I didn't know for sure that
that was it.
Yeah.
You probably didn't read thetext.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01):
Well, I seen Thanksgiving, so.
Okay.

SPEAKER_04 (01:04):
That's about it.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:06):
Thanksgiving traditions and what else, Beth?

SPEAKER_05 (01:10):
Just what Christianity stands behind how
behind it?
Behind it.

SPEAKER_08 (01:17):
I thought we were just talking about our favorite
food.
That's what I was going to startwith.

SPEAKER_04 (01:21):
So I should say we've got Michael back for the
night.
And then we've got littleEaston.
Yeah.
And we have Lauren.
Lauren.
Yay, Lauren.
Hey, Lauren.

SPEAKER_08 (01:31):
Are you nervous, Lauren?

SPEAKER_06 (01:32):
I'm a little bit nervous.
Why?
Because I've never been on apodcast before.

SPEAKER_08 (01:36):
You gotta stay close to your microphone.
You'll learn that.
Because it'll either push it inyour face or I'll yell at you.

SPEAKER_05 (01:41):
Three years in.
Yeah, don't touch it.

SPEAKER_08 (01:42):
Three years in, and Beth still doesn't.
She'll be talking like this.
Can't figure out what she'ssaying.
And don't touch any wires.
Or buttons.
Oh, you'll see Roger sittingthere scraping this with his
thumb, and then you hear itinside of the mic.
I'm like, Roger, stop.
That's why I actually stoppeddoing podcasts.
I couldn't be in here with himanymore.
I was like, I can't do it.
He stresses me out.

SPEAKER_06 (02:02):
It's quite different in the ears with these head
notes.
It is.
I should ask you, is it tooloud?
No, it's fine.
You sure?
Yep, it's perfect.
Okay.

SPEAKER_08 (02:07):
We can make all sorts of adjustments.

SPEAKER_04 (02:08):
Yeah.
Yeah, I can try.

unknown (02:11):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (02:11):
Yeah.
Might stop it.
As long as it's a little green,as long as the green light's
still steady.

SPEAKER_04 (02:16):
Yeah, even if it I've learned if it's blinking,
we're still good.
It just blinks.

SPEAKER_08 (02:20):
And I'm like, Oh, on the pad?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's because it's justplaying, but it's like turned
all the way down.
Oh.
Okay.
Well.
If you turn it up, it's stillplaying.
Okay.
All right.
So Thanksgiving.
My favorite part ofThanksgiving, mashed potatoes
and stuffing.
I'm a turkey guy, not a ham guy.
Don't want anything to do withham on Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_04 (02:37):
Has anyone ever heard of dry corn?

SPEAKER_08 (02:39):
No, and that sounds awful.

SPEAKER_04 (02:42):
No, it's not awful.
It's amazing.
My grandma makes it.

SPEAKER_08 (02:44):
I don't like corn.

SPEAKER_04 (02:46):
Well, this is like it's like a mustard brown weird
color.
Like it is a process how shemakes it.
I haven't learned how to make ityet, but it it looks very weird
and dry.
That's what it is.
Maybe hence the name dry corn.
And people either love it orhate it.
Like me, Mallory, my sister, andmy dad, we all love it.

(03:07):
And like she knows it's us threethat likes it.
So she'll like send us home withmore of like the leftovers.
That's probably my favoritebecause she doesn't really make
it outside of Thanksgiving, Idon't think.
Let me know if you do, Grummo,because I don't normally see it.

SPEAKER_08 (03:22):
Let's take a quick vote on cranberry sauce.
How do we feel about cranberrysauce?

SPEAKER_02 (03:26):
Well, it now depends.
Yeah.
On what?
It depends on how you use thecranberry sauce.

SPEAKER_08 (03:32):
You know how I use it?
I open it, dump it in the trash,and then throw the can in behind
it and move on with my day.
It's nasty.

SPEAKER_00 (03:39):
I've never tried it.
I like cranberry sauce.
I don't blame you.

SPEAKER_08 (03:42):
Don't ever try it.

SPEAKER_00 (03:43):
I never want to.
It's very sweet.
It's sweet.
Is it?

SPEAKER_08 (03:46):
It looked, I can't out of the can.
I don't maybe if you make itfresh.
It like jiggles and I don'tknow, man.
I don't like jello, so I assumeit's like jello.
It looks like jello.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (03:56):
Now I like a cranberry salad.
Yeah.
Like the cranberries andcandles.
Okay.
So nut.

SPEAKER_08 (04:01):
But that's not this giant glob of goo.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (04:05):
This still has a ring from the cans on it.
That's what I'm saying.
Like the pumpkin filling, too.

SPEAKER_02 (04:11):
I can't do that.
I just can't bring myself to doit.
Oh, you gotta have it in withwalnuts and apples.
Yes.
All mixed together.
A little bit of carrot.
Best way to have it.
Then you then you put in Jell-O.

SPEAKER_08 (04:23):
Ugh.
You know, I tried to name Emmettorangelo.
Orange Jell-O.
I did.
I desperate.
I thought it was a fun name.
And you'll notice that his nameis Emmett, so you see who won
the battle.
It's true.
I tried Lemangelo as well.
Lemon Jell-O.
Didn't work.

SPEAKER_04 (04:45):
Is that your two favorites?

SPEAKER_08 (04:46):
No, I don't like jello at all.
Jell- is nasty.
Jell-O's disgusting.

SPEAKER_04 (04:50):
I just thought it was a fun name.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (04:53):
There's nothing good about Jell-O.

SPEAKER_04 (04:55):
Have you ever had fruit in it?
Like fruit cocktail?
My grandma would put fruitcocktail in it.

SPEAKER_08 (05:00):
My grandma made it something with like pistachios
and like is it green?

SPEAKER_04 (05:06):
Yeah.
So I that's the good stuff.
I make that, but it's notpistachio.
It's like lime jello and ohcrap, what's it called?
Um, it's got pineapple in it.

SPEAKER_02 (05:18):
Cabbage?

SPEAKER_04 (05:18):
No, no, no.
Cabbage.
No apple.

SPEAKER_06 (05:21):
It's like a fruitcake.

SPEAKER_04 (05:22):
Yeah, kind of.
Whip.
It's got cool whip.
It's like jello.
And then you I don't know.
It's it's really really good.

SPEAKER_08 (05:29):
That's what my grand, I think it's the same
stuff my grandma makes.
No cabbage, though.
I don't know where that's.

SPEAKER_02 (05:35):
It's gotta be shredded up.

SPEAKER_04 (05:37):
For what?
Mine has pear juice and pearsshredded.

SPEAKER_08 (05:43):
Oh.
Nobody can see my pear.

SPEAKER_04 (05:47):
With a cheese grater.
Oh my god.
Out of the can?
Yeah.
Oh, that's nasty.

SPEAKER_07 (05:53):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (05:53):
Oh lord.

SPEAKER_04 (05:55):
Well, yeah.
The the pear, I guess, like thepears that I had from Amish
Country the other day, thosewould have been way too hard.

SPEAKER_02 (06:02):
Oh no.
Well, no, that that those wouldgreat, great.
Those would great great.
Oh, geez.

SPEAKER_04 (06:08):
They were great, great.

SPEAKER_08 (06:09):
They're great grated.

SPEAKER_04 (06:12):
Well, it's Lauren's favorite holiday.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (06:16):
Thanksgiving is?
Yes.
Really?
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (06:19):
Interesting.
We gotta leave because she's sheshe's she's bashful.
Oh yeah, we gotta let her talk.
Okay.
You gotta jump right in.
I'll go, I'll go all day.
So yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_06 (06:29):
My grandma always made the gravy from the from the
turkey and its bones and all ofthat.
And it was just she'd let itsimmer on on the stove all day,
and it was just always sodelicious.
It was my favorite part.
Yes.
And then she'd always make a hamand then she'd cut the ham up
and make like a ham soupafterwards.
Oh, that was just the ham bone?
Yes.
That was just it was always myfavorite.

(06:50):
And it's like the only time ofthe year that my family gets
together and like is on theirbest behavior.
So it's like always my favoritebecause it's we're all normal,
you know?

SPEAKER_04 (07:00):
It's funny you say that because one of the first
years I was with Chase, like wewere leaving one of his
grandma's, and the brother'slike, Well, this was a really
good holiday.
No one fought, nothing.
I'm like, you guys should not belooking at holidays like this.
This is terrible.

SPEAKER_08 (07:14):
This is a highly rated holiday because nobody got
in a fist fight in the frontyard.

unknown (07:18):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (07:20):
Well, that's a good pull.

SPEAKER_06 (07:21):
Yeah.
Christmas is the worst.
It's always something bad alwayshappens.
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (07:25):
Well, I think Christmas, the emotions get high
because everybody gets up tooearly, right?
Like, especially if you've gotkids, everybody's up early.
Yeah.
I need a nap by 10:30.
Like that day stresses me out.
The day's almost over.
Right, exactly.
By noon, I mean everybody shouldbe going back to bed.
Right.
Anyway.
So I get it.
Like Christmas, something stupidhappens because everybody's

(07:46):
tired, everybody's grumpy.
I remember my dad used to, like,he's still to this day, he would
always make a big Christmasdinner, and we would go to like
all of us kids with our own kidswould go to their house.
And inevitably, my sister wouldend up fighting with somebody,
or my brother would bring one ofhis girlfriends.
I my brother proposed, I hopehe's listening to this.

(08:08):
Proposed to a girl at myfamily's Christmas.
We had never met her prior tothis moment.
And he proposes in front ofeverybody.
You want to talk about weird,right?
Like, come on, man.
Get it together.
Did she say yes?
No.
Well, she, I think she did.
I think she did.
But it lasted about 45 minutespast the Christmas.

(08:28):
Here's the deal.

SPEAKER_02 (08:29):
He didn't get up too early.

SPEAKER_08 (08:31):
My brother asked me, he's like, hey man, will you go
with me to pick her up fromwork?
She had to work in the morning.
I said, sure, yeah, whatever.
So I drove him.
And uh on the way up, he's like,I'm gonna tell you something
before I tell everybody else.
I'm like, what's that?
He's like, I'm gonna propose toher at the at Christmas.
And I'm like, you shouldn't dothat.
I was just like, I'm gonna youreally shouldn't do that.
And yet he did.
And alas.

(08:53):
And that's the end of the story,huh?
Weird.

SPEAKER_05 (08:55):
Nothing like putting her on the spot.
Right.

SPEAKER_08 (08:57):
That's what I'm saying.
Like, why wouldn't she have saidyes?
That was uncomfortable.
And it wasn't like it was herfamily, it was our family.
So if she said no, what were wegonna do?
Throw her out.

SPEAKER_04 (09:04):
Right.
Maybe that's why he did it.
Maybe he's like, well, she hasto say yes.

SPEAKER_08 (09:08):
I can't tell you the number of times he showed up to
my family's house with agirlfriend or a a friend, just
another guy friend on Christmasto my mom and dad's house.
Like he would show up toChristmas with extra people.
We're like, Well, it's him plusone.
We're we're opening presents,and this person's just awkwardly
sitting there because theyaren't included, obviously.

(09:29):
That was weird.
Anyhow, back to Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_05 (09:32):
Or yeah, we had a family member that did that.
My mom learned to buy extras.
Have an extra gift.

SPEAKER_08 (09:36):
Yeah, buy a backup.

SPEAKER_05 (09:37):
Yeah, she's like, go get that gift that's back by the
bed.

SPEAKER_04 (09:41):
Especially like the white elephant ones, and you'd
never know.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (09:44):
Yeah.
Somebody got slippers and ablanket.

SPEAKER_06 (09:48):
Talking about bringing somebody over for
Christmas.
That's one thing I do love aboutThanksgiving is being able to
invite because like the peopledon't have food.
And I'm like, come on over, likeeverybody's invited, you know
what I mean?

SPEAKER_08 (10:00):
I think the difference is is there are it's
not a gift exchange.
Right.
So, like, as long as there'sfood, great, wonderful at
Thanksgiving.
And we, my family has alwaysdonated a Thanksgiving to a
family in need.
So we'll find, we'll ask around,and if anybody knows somebody,
then we'll donate a basket to afamily in need.
We are we always have an openinvitation at our house on
Thanksgiving and on Christmas.

(10:21):
There are people who havenowhere else to go.
So if they're bored or just needsomewhere to be, they're always
welcome to our house.

SPEAKER_07 (10:27):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_08 (10:28):
But but I've never had anybody take me up on it.
And I fear that if they did, Iwould be like, What are we gonna
do?

SPEAKER_02 (10:35):
Like You know you shouldn't have said that.

SPEAKER_08 (10:37):
I know, right?
We're gonna have a bunch ofpeople show up.
Well, we won't be home onThanksgiving this year.
So yeah, but I know where yourdad lives.
It's not my dad.
I know where your grandma lives,dude.
No, it's not gonna be at herhouse either.
We're going to we go to Alyssa'sfamily's on Thanksgiving.
So we we does anybody elseprioritize holidays?
Meaning you So like my parentsget prioritized holidays and

(10:59):
then Alyssa's family gets priorto holidays.

SPEAKER_04 (11:00):
No, but that's a good idea because the one Easter
might have been last Easter.
I was just like, I'm not Irefuse to move Cooper in three
locations all day.
And my dad's like, you win some,you lose some, Sid.
Like, we don't care.
I'm like, yeah, but I don't wantit to be every year.
Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_08 (11:14):
So what we have done is her family always does a big
Thanksgiving dinner at the LionsClub in Sheridansville.
Shouldn't have just told Rogerhe's gonna show up now.
Okay, that's close.
So we they always do a bigThanksgiving dinner, so we
almost always go there forThanksgiving.
My parents have historicallystopped having Thanksgiving
dinners because my brothercouldn't come or my sister
couldn't come or whatever, sothey just stopped doing it.

(11:35):
So we usually go to hergrandparents for Thanksgiving
and then we pack leftovers homefor dinner that night.
But then Christmas, we always wedon't travel in the morning.
Yeah, it's that's a no-fly zone.
We don't, it's not negotiable,we don't talk about it, but
anybody's invited to our house.
So if my grandparents want tocome, my parents want to come,

(11:56):
my sister, my brother, any ofthose people, they're welcome.
But we don't we don't travel onChristmas morning.

SPEAKER_06 (12:01):
We do the same.

SPEAKER_08 (12:02):
And I've got five kids, yeah, three smaller
children, and you know, we wantto be able to enjoy that time.
Plus, I mean, once kids start toopen gifts and there's stuff to
build, like that's the rest ofmy day.

SPEAKER_06 (12:13):
150 batteries.
Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_08 (12:16):
We we uh we actually just take stock out in Duracell.
Like we we just buy, we tradesome stock in Duracell.
That way at least we get somemoney back from the money we're
spending.
So we prior prioritize Christmaswith our immediate family.
And then this year my parentsare having Christmas dinner at
their house.
So they'll come to our house inthe morning, then we'll go out
to their house in the evening.
Yeah, but it will be lowpressure, like my dad said, He's

(12:38):
like, hey, if you guys can'tmake it till six, whatever.
Yeah, we're it's fine.
But it gives us an opportunityto get rested and everybody
grounded because it's a bigmorning, and then head out
there.
But nap time.
Yes.
Now I I have to have a nap onChristmas Day, otherwise I'm
grouchy.
Which is normal, but I just I'mnow I'm grouchy with a nap.

(13:00):
I mean a little bit different.

SPEAKER_02 (13:05):
See, you're always grouchy.

unknown (13:09):
Definitely.

SPEAKER_02 (13:10):
Wow, bro.
You're walking home.
Hey, I'll take you home.

SPEAKER_08 (13:14):
I'll take you home.

SPEAKER_03 (13:14):
I'm just down.
I won't take you home.
I'm just barring.
I'm just around the block.

SPEAKER_08 (13:18):
Well, you're taking him to your house, though.
You ain't bringing him to mine.
He's sleeping out on a porchtonight.

SPEAKER_05 (13:22):
He can snuggle up with Brooke.

SPEAKER_04 (13:25):
Yeah, so you don't have to.
I got my watch.

SPEAKER_08 (13:28):
Oh, he's like, I got my watch.
I'll call my mom.

SPEAKER_06 (13:32):
Last year Adelaide got up around 1:30 right after
Sansa had came.
And we're like, as soon as wesaw her, we're like, oh no, I
don't think Sansa's come yet.

SPEAKER_08 (13:43):
As long as you can catch them before they get to
the tree.
Now, I remember as a kid, we'renot really talking Thanksgiving,
we're talking Christmas rightnow, but I remember as a kid
when we would wake up four orfive in the morning, we would
sit at the top of the stepsbecause we had a two-story
house, and we would like giggleand chit-chat and wait for my
parents to allow us to comedownstairs.
And when we heard the coffee potkick on, because my mom wasn't a

(14:04):
coffee drinker, but my dad was,we're like, okay, we're on the
right track, like it's gonnahappen soon, right?
My kids though, it's one storyhouse, they don't even come back
to the bedroom, they go straightto the living room.
There's presence, it's time toget up.

SPEAKER_01 (14:17):
Yep, you're you're getting off.
I'll wake up at like maybe six,and then I'll be like, oh, it's
Christmas morning.

SPEAKER_08 (14:23):
Like at six or seven.

SPEAKER_01 (14:25):
Six or six.

SPEAKER_02 (14:29):
More on the six side and yeah, yeah, more on the six,
less on the side.

SPEAKER_08 (14:34):
But he doesn't, they won't typically wake us up.
They'll sit and stare, and wealso allow them to open their
stockings without us.
So they can see whatever's intheir stockings and then usually
a couple small toys, whateverthey can hang out and play.

SPEAKER_04 (14:46):
But like that idea.

SPEAKER_08 (14:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (14:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (14:51):
Yeah, buddy.
We talk about foods that yourgrandma only makes on my my mom,
she makes these can or she usedto make these candied candied
apples.
Oh you take red red cinnamons,and they gotta be Brocks.
They can't be the jeepies.
They can't be the cheebies.
No, because they it it does makea difference in the taste.

(15:14):
And then you put put them in abowl, in a pan, heat them up,
melt them, put sugar in there,and then you put your apples in
there and leave them cook.
And they get nice and red andcinnamon.
Cinnamony.

SPEAKER_05 (15:28):
That sounds like that.
So did she do that for Christmasor for Thanksgiving?

SPEAKER_02 (15:31):
Christmas and Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_08 (15:33):
My grandma's is homemade noodles, and I love her
homemade noodles.
And there is always a fight atthe end of dinner at grandma's
house for who's taking theleftovers.
Because grandma doesn't wantthem.
No.
Like somebody else, please takethese.
And it's always a fight.
And does anybody else not usereal Tupperware in the holidays?
Like we get a Kool-Whip bowl ora butter dish, or sometimes you

(15:56):
take it out in plastic bags.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (15:58):
Plastic bags always for me.
My mom's always not getting ourTupperware.

unknown (16:03):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (16:03):
I walked out of my grandma's house with a Ziploc
bag of noodles, a Ziploc bag ofmashed potatoes.
Here's some turkey.
You gotta do what you gotta do.
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (16:11):
Jarve's mom always made the best homemade noodles.
So this Christmas we went there,and that's Clayton must have
been about 12 or 13.
So he was in his like chunkychunky stage.
And so we were going home and ithad snowed really bad.
Well, we've wrecked.
And the car went up in a ditchand on up on its side, and every

(16:31):
Sarah's screaming and carryingon, crying, and Clayton's got
the bowl of noodles going, thenoodles are okay, the noodles
are okay, holding them up.
Didn't worry about the car,didn't worry about brother or
sister's hurt or not.

SPEAKER_01 (16:43):
The noodles are good.
We're good.
I do the same thing.

SPEAKER_08 (16:47):
He would, he would save the noodles, save the food.

SPEAKER_01 (16:50):
Yeah, I always need food for tomorrow.

SPEAKER_08 (16:53):
Now, listen, this is a kid that will eat literally
anything for breakfast.
Like, there aren't breakfastfoods for him.
All food is food, right?
Well, so he'll get up in themorning and be like, I want
ramen for breakfast.
Or he'll have whatever theleftovers were from the night
before.
Like that's he doesn't my kidsdo the same thing.
He doesn't like categorize food.

SPEAKER_06 (17:14):
Pizza?

SPEAKER_08 (17:14):
Oh, pizza's our pizza.

SPEAKER_04 (17:16):
Yes, me and him eat it.
That's our favorite breakfast.
Mine too.
Mine too.

SPEAKER_08 (17:19):
That's our favorite breakfast.

SPEAKER_04 (17:19):
My the the thing I was talking about earlier, the
dessert with the pears, it iscalled sea foam salad.
Sea foam salad.

SPEAKER_02 (17:25):
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I've heard of that.

SPEAKER_04 (17:27):
Uh-huh.
It's got pear juice, lime jello,cream cheese, cream of oh no,
it's either cream or milk.

SPEAKER_08 (17:35):
I thought you were gonna say cream of mushrooms.

SPEAKER_04 (17:37):
So did I.
I'm like, there's no mushroomsand coal whip and pears.

SPEAKER_08 (17:42):
So stop while you're ahead on that one.

SPEAKER_04 (17:44):
Yeah, but we never knew what it was called growing
up.
So it was like, Grandma, did youmake the green stuff?
Like that's what we call it.
The green stuff.

SPEAKER_08 (17:51):
My grandma makes a Cool Whip dessert that has like
a chocolate pudding layer, andthen the crust, like the bottom
layer, is made out of likecrushed walnuts.

SPEAKER_06 (17:58):
Mm-hmm, that'd be good.
It is so good.
So good.

SPEAKER_08 (18:01):
Another one that we fight over at Thanksgiving at
grandma's house.

SPEAKER_06 (18:04):
The last couple of years with the kids, we've just
been wanting to do it, like me,my husband, and our children.
And we've like been trying tolike perfect the foods that our
loved ones, like the ones thatwe have lost.
And my grandma, she used to makethese white cookies that were
like covered in a powderedsugar.
They were like a ball.
Yes.
Russian tea cake.

SPEAKER_08 (18:22):
Yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_06 (18:23):
What are they called?
Russian tea cake.

SPEAKER_08 (18:25):
Russian tea ball.
Yeah.
That would be the ball.
Oh, okay.
They do make them in, you canmake them in a cake too.

SPEAKER_06 (18:30):
But that was just always my favorite from her.
And then my dad, he makes theseweird little black olives, like
covered in cream cheese, andthen the walnuts.
I was never really a big fan ofit, but my kids, they love that.
So we're just like trying totake on the traditions that my
family always did, justtogether, you know?

SPEAKER_08 (18:47):
Yeah, I think that's the beauty of Thanksgiving too.
So I'm I'm not a traditionalperson, I don't particularly
care for like one set tradition.
So in the world of Christmas,what I have done is I have
bought something that my kidshave grown up with that I plan
to pass to each one of mychildren.
So for instance, I have a PolarExpress that has just about

(19:08):
every year that my kids havebeen alive has run around the
bottom of our Christmas tree.
Now, the tree changes, like sosometimes it's on the in the
tree that's in the dining room,under the living room tree, like
that tree changes.
But that Polar Express is astaple of our Christmas every
year.
My leg lamp, obviously, becausewho doesn't need a leg lamp?
And I mean this thing's fullsize, so it's it's a monster.

(19:30):
Like it's looks like a big leg.
Slightly ridiculous.

SPEAKER_04 (19:34):
I was thinking I need to get one because my huge
window, I can't put a tree therenow, but I've got a nightstand
right there, right in the middleof it.
Like that needs a lamp.

SPEAKER_08 (19:43):
That perfect spot.
We buy a Swarovski Christmasornament every year.
So there that's we started whenwe got married.
Alyssa and I started when we gotmarried, and we buy one every
year, and that's our kickoff toChristmas.
So we'll go to uh Easton TownCenter, go straight to the
Swarovski store, buy ourornament, and then start
Christmas shopping.
In years recent, we've had tostart shopping before then

(20:05):
because there's not enough time.
But so we've got that.
What else do I have, Moose?
Oh, our pickle.
We do a Christmas pickle that welost.
I know, I think I know whereit's at.
We hide the it's only about aninch.
Yeah, it's tiny little pickle,and we hide it inside of the
Christmas decorations.
Whoever finds the pickle gets anextra present on Christmas.

SPEAKER_04 (20:23):
And that's German, right?
I have no idea because my familydid does it too, and it was on
both sides of my like my mom'sside and my dad's side.
I'm like, well, we only havelike one like similar
background, and it's bothGerman.
So I'm like, it must be German.

SPEAKER_08 (20:38):
So we do the pickle, and then there was I don't
remember the other one.
I don't remember.
But we've all we've gotsomething basically to pass down
to each of the kids.
They all fight over the train.
Everybody says they're gettingthe train, they're getting the
train.
But anyhow, so not typicallytraditional, like other than
that, there's really nothing inour house that remains the same

(20:59):
for Christmas, and we don't goto the same places or do the
same things or for Christmas.
But Thanksgiving, again, I thinkthe beauty of that is that you
can be very traditional with itbecause it's a limited, it's
mostly food.

SPEAKER_03 (21:11):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (21:11):
It's not again gift giving and traveling and things
like that.
So I do enjoy that part ofThanksgiving.
So that's really cool that youdo that.

SPEAKER_06 (21:18):
I think the only actual traditional thing that we
would do on Thanksgiving waslike the first bite rule, nobody
eats until somebody sayssomething silly that they've
been grateful for about theyear.
So that's like I think the onlything that would pass over at
the year.
Yeah.
But everything else is justthat's a super cute idea.

SPEAKER_08 (21:33):
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (21:34):
It's fun.

SPEAKER_08 (21:35):
We for several years, we didn't do it this
year, and I'm not sure why, butwe didn't.
We did the Grateful GratefulTurkey.
So Alyssa would draw a turkey ona brown piece of construction
paper, and then she would cutout just tons of feathers, and
every night at dinner, each oneof the kids would say what they
were thankful for, and we youcouldn't repeat, and then we
would glue it to that turkey.
And so by Thanksgiving, thatturkey was humongous to the

(21:58):
point where you couldn't hanghim on the fridge anymore.
He was just too big.

SPEAKER_06 (22:01):
I love that idea.

SPEAKER_08 (22:02):
Yeah, that was a just a fun oh yeah, something to
keep everybody kind of groundedin what we were doing.

SPEAKER_05 (22:08):
So Beth.
Trivia.
Oh, my trivia.

SPEAKER_08 (22:11):
Oh, you got trivia.

SPEAKER_05 (22:12):
I do.
She does.
Unless you were gonna saysomething.
Well, I was, but that's well,no, go for it.
I was just gonna say growing up,we I always went to my
grandmother's and spent thenight and helped make the
dressing and do that.
The night before?
The night before.

SPEAKER_08 (22:24):
And you know why they did that?
Get her out of the house so theycould go Christmas shop.

SPEAKER_05 (22:28):
Probably.
Yeah.
Then I you know, wake up in themorning, you wake up to the
smell of the turkey wake you up,you know, cooking.
But so we still get go to mymom's on Thanksgiving the Eve
and Yeah, and still do that.
Still do.
We make the pies and we make thedressing and everything.
And then it's toted to wherewhoever's whoever's toasting.

(22:51):
So, but yeah.
So I did have a few, like thefirst one was uh when was the
first Thanksgiving celebrated?

SPEAKER_08 (22:58):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 (22:59):
Well, think about Easter around Columbus Day.

SPEAKER_08 (23:03):
You're asking like you're the one in school right
now.

SPEAKER_05 (23:06):
Nick be able to fire these.
I know.

SPEAKER_08 (23:08):
This like I don't I don't do history.

SPEAKER_05 (23:10):
Six night it was sixteen twenty one.
Sixteen twenty one.
And it was called the firstharvest celebration.
Oh this one Nick would know.
Who was the first president todeclare Thanksgiving an actual
holiday?

SPEAKER_08 (23:24):
Lincoln.

SPEAKER_03 (23:25):
Yep.
That's what I was gonna say.
I was actually say that, but Iwas like, Well, who was the
first one to pardon a turkey?

SPEAKER_08 (23:31):
Because that's an asinine.
Oh, I didn't know there was aevery year the president pardons
a turkey.

SPEAKER_04 (23:37):
Oh, I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 (23:38):
Like pardons, like it's like a celebratory, like
this turkey doesn't die.
He goes to a farm and lives outthe rest of his life because
he's been pardoned by thepresident.
Somebody's here.

SPEAKER_04 (23:48):
So do they all these turkeys, do they all live
together?

SPEAKER_08 (23:51):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 (23:52):
Do they all go to one same farm and like hang out?
Like heaven, basically.

SPEAKER_08 (23:57):
It's my wife.
I wonder what she's doing.

SPEAKER_05 (24:01):
The other one was who was the president that
refused to make Thanksgiving anational holiday?
What year?
Do you know?

SPEAKER_08 (24:09):
Grover Cleveland.
Well, it had to have been beforeLincoln.

SPEAKER_05 (24:12):
It was before Lincoln.
I don't have a year.

SPEAKER_08 (24:14):
Van Buren.

SPEAKER_05 (24:15):
Thomas Jefferson.

SPEAKER_08 (24:16):
Oh, what a dirty dog that Thomas Jefferson.

SPEAKER_05 (24:19):
He believed that there should be a separation
between the state and thechurch.

SPEAKER_08 (24:24):
Uh okay.
Whatever.
No, I mean let me back up.
Not that I'm disagreeing withthat because I first of all,
let's we gonna do we want to getinto this?
Because I don't want to do thisand I don't want to.
First of all, it does not readseparation of church and state.
It's a separation of church fromstate.

SPEAKER_04 (24:44):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (24:44):
Meaning that the church cannot be governed by the
state.

SPEAKER_04 (24:47):
Not the other way around.
Not the other way around.
Like everyone says.

SPEAKER_08 (24:50):
Correct.

SPEAKER_04 (24:50):
Oh, I probably wrote it down wrong.

SPEAKER_08 (24:52):
No, it's how it's typically said.
It's typically read.
It's separate separation ofchurch and state, and it's not
separation of church from state.
So the like and again, I'm nottrying like we don't have to pay
taxes.
We don't pay taxes because we'rea nonprofit.
You do not have to file for anonprofit status as a church to
be a nonprofit.

(25:12):
So long as you meet weekly, youare automatically considered a
nonprofit.
However, in order to like gettax exemptions and things like
that, be able to prove that,it's best to have a 501c3, file
all the paperwork on it.
Now, that's not to say and andpeople get upset about that.
Well, all of these churches, allof these people are, you know,

(25:35):
telling politics what theyshould be doing in their
lobbying and yada yada.
Right.
Because from a Christianstandpoint, it's our desire to
see Christ proclaimed to theworld.
We do that best through ourpolitical figures.
Now, I also think that we can gotoo radical on the other side of
that, and it gets dangerouseither way that you go.
So I think it has to be careful.

(25:56):
You can come in.

SPEAKER_00 (25:59):
Hi.

SPEAKER_08 (26:00):
I see you.
Hello.
What did you bring?

SPEAKER_00 (26:04):
Food.

SPEAKER_08 (26:05):
Oh.
What did you bring?
Like what?
Oh.
Whatever.
That's okay.
I think I can.
I think I can wait.
Yeah, you're gonna be a goodone.
Speaking of hudgy.

SPEAKER_04 (26:17):
I I made a new tradition for my family, and
it's the 5K that I definitelyprepared for.

SPEAKER_08 (26:22):
That is dirty of you.

SPEAKER_04 (26:24):
Are you ready?
Are you prepared?
No, no.

SPEAKER_08 (26:27):
You haven't been practicing?

unknown (26:28):
No.

SPEAKER_08 (26:29):
How do you practice for a 5K?

SPEAKER_04 (26:31):
I will say I've done one before, but it's it's been a
few years.
Preo you just pre-Cooper and youcan walk them.
I'm like, worst thing, I'll walkthem with the walkers.

SPEAKER_05 (26:41):
So how far is 5K?
Is that three miles?

SPEAKER_04 (26:43):
3.1, I think.

unknown (26:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (26:47):
What time?
What time does it start?
Early.
Oh, nine, that's not bad.

SPEAKER_04 (26:50):
Yeah.
So I was like, well, you'realready up watching the parade
anyway, you know?
And yeah.
I don't know.
But I did get Mal to sign up andColton.
We were trying to get my dad tosign up, but I'm like, oh, he's
gonna be because Cindy kind oftook over like Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_07 (27:05):
He's gonna be a good one.

SPEAKER_04 (27:06):
She does not like cooking, so it's like already a
whole ordeal.
And like, oh, he's gonna be,yeah, he's gonna be busy.
So I doubt he'll it'd be fun ifhe did, but yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 (27:15):
Also you mentioned the Macy Day parade.
I love watching that.
And my grandkids, that isnothing.
Really?

SPEAKER_08 (27:22):
Well, excited about that as well.
It's what you grew up with.
I well, and I also think there'sa difference too in that was the
kickoff to Christmas.
It was always the kick when yousaw Santa at the end of the the
Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade,that was the kickoff to
Christmas.
Then you started seeing Santa inthe mall, Santa in the in the

(27:44):
department stores, whatever.
But no, that's not the caseanymore.
Yeah.
We start Christmas in October.
At the end of Halloween.
Yeah.
Because you're not selling candyfor Thanksgiving.
So it really does, it hasshifted, culture has shifted so
much to the consumer portionthat we miss the feels.
You know what I mean?
The emotional part.

SPEAKER_04 (28:03):
The only thing that hasn't shifted is the tree
farms, and they need to.
I'm tired of waiting three extraweeks compared to everyone else
putting their Christmas tree.

SPEAKER_08 (28:12):
Yeah, but you wouldn't want that tree three
weeks early.

SPEAKER_04 (28:14):
That's very true.
Very true.

SPEAKER_05 (28:16):
But everybody felt the need to put their Christmas
stuff up early this year forsome reason.

SPEAKER_08 (28:20):
It's because Thanksgiving was so late.

unknown (28:22):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (28:22):
Thanksgiving really being so late, really messed
late.
Same day every year.
No, it's it's the thirdThursday.
Yeah.
Right.
But it's the third Thursday camelater because our first day of
this of this month was a Friday.

SPEAKER_06 (28:34):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (28:35):
So it pushed it back.
Much closer to the end of themonth than it normally is.

SPEAKER_06 (28:40):
We always wait to decorate until after
Thanksgiving, no matter what.
I usually do, but I started.

SPEAKER_04 (28:46):
I just started the past few years because I'm like,
this seasonal depression, it'sfor the birds, and if I'm gonna
do anything to make it better,it'll be pretty Christmas lights
and all the fun magic.

SPEAKER_08 (28:56):
That's a great fun like twist to this conversation.
Seasonal depression's real.
Yes, it is, and you don'trealize it like even as a kid,
it probably happens to us,right?
Because you're stuck in thehouse now earlier.
That's a bizarre, like when youstart to realize that that's
happening to you, that's weird.
It's really strange.

SPEAKER_05 (29:14):
You know, it gets dark so much clear and oh yeah,
you know, that's why the wholetime change thing.

SPEAKER_06 (29:20):
You're lacking your vitamin D in the sun, you know,
and because that's the time thatwe used to spend outside is
after school, and now they theyhave to do their homework, and
then already it's it's dark, andit's we are like wanting to go
to bed, but it's six o'clock.
So it's like you leave for youleave in the dark, you go to
work.

SPEAKER_07 (29:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (29:41):
Well, and it's like, I mean, I truly understand why
they did the time change back inthe day and stuff, but it's like
now, I mean, it's it it'salready shorter days as it is.
Why make it even shorter?
Right.

SPEAKER_08 (29:55):
Okay, you ready?
Yeah.
I found out who the firstpresident was to pardon a
turkey.

SPEAKER_04 (30:00):
Okay.

SPEAKER_08 (30:01):
All right.
So there's actually a list.
Oh.
So I'm gonna share the wholelist.
Abraham Lincoln in 1863 was thefirst unofficial president to
pardon a turkey when his son Tadconvinced him to spare the
turkey's to spare the family'sChristmas meal.
So it was a Christmas pardon.
Then in 1963, John Kennedy wasthe first president to be quoted

(30:22):
using the word pardon for aturkey that he received.
Ronald Reagan in 87 uh was thefirst to formally pardon in a
joke the Thanksgiving turkey whowas then sent to a farm.
But George H.
W.
Bush in 1989 was the firstpresident.
To make the turkey pardon anofficial annual tradition.

SPEAKER_05 (30:39):
Really?
Yeah.
Interesting.
Listen, I can't get over theBucky hat.
I just noticed it.

SPEAKER_08 (30:46):
The Bucky's hat?
Listen, that was we had to stopat an extra Bucky's to get this
bad boy.

SPEAKER_04 (30:51):
An extra one?
Yeah, so we stopped at three.

SPEAKER_08 (30:53):
We stopped at one on the way down and two on the way
home.
Uh-huh.
We stopped at the one.
This has nothing to do withThanksgiving.
Why did you get us here?

SPEAKER_05 (31:00):
I can't know, but I just like, what is on his ass?

SPEAKER_08 (31:03):
We stopped at the one in Fort Lauderdale on the
way home.
Or no, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Daytona Beach on the way home.
That thing was so busy youcouldn't move.
And so we grabbed lunch realquick and ran back out.
And I was looking for just aplain Bucky's hat, but all they
had were Christmas hats.
So I bought the Christmas hat.
Because I was like, I want aBucky's hat.

(31:25):
But it's like red and greenplaid on the top, and then like
Bucky has a Christmas hat on,and I don't really care for it,
but I wanted a Bucky's hat.
So we left, and as soon as weget back on the highway, it's
like Bucky, 63 miles.
I'm like, we're stomping at thatone, too.
So we stopped and ran in, filledup gas, got me a new hat, and
off we go.
So now Emmett's got my Christmashat.

SPEAKER_02 (31:44):
Those places are pretty cool.

SPEAKER_08 (31:45):
They're amazing.
I mean it's like it's likeWalmart with gas.
Exactly.
You walk into the, if you go tothe bathrooms.
Have you ever been to a Bucky's?
Been to a Bucky's?

SPEAKER_04 (31:55):
I am sad we did not go when we were in Tennessee.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (31:58):
Okay.
So you uh you walk in.
If you need to use the bathroom,you know how ladies' lines are
always really long?

SPEAKER_01 (32:02):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (32:03):
Not there.
It may be a long line, but itmoves quick.
There's probably 40.
There's probably 40 stalls inthe ladies' restroom.

SPEAKER_07 (32:10):
Wow.

SPEAKER_08 (32:10):
Okay.
The doors go almost all the wayto the floor.
There's only a tiny little gap,and it's like a hard door that
closes, not those little latchythings like we've got here.
All right.
And above the door, it has alittle light to tell you whether
or not it's occupied.
If it's red, it's occupied.
If it's green, it's not.

SPEAKER_07 (32:23):
Wow.
Very cool.
It's pretty fancy.
It's pretty cool.
Upscale baths.

SPEAKER_02 (32:26):
Yeah.
So then I have a question.
Yeah.
How do you know how many stallsare in the women's bathrooms?

SPEAKER_08 (32:31):
Well, it was a guess based on how many are in the
men's.
Yeah.
And the thing is, is the men'shas urinals and regular toilets.
And there's a lot of regulartoilets in the men's rooms, so I
can't imagine.
But anyhow, they also have freshcut brisket pretty much all day
long.
And so what do they yell,Easton?

unknown (32:49):
I forget.

SPEAKER_08 (32:50):
Fresh brisket on the board.

SPEAKER_07 (32:53):
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (32:53):
Yep.
And so then they'll be choppingthe brisket and they're yelling
all these things the whole timethey're doing it.
They make fudge every day.
So you can buy fresh fudge everyday.
They have some of the bestmacaroni and cheese in the whole
world.

SPEAKER_04 (33:04):
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (33:05):
And the home decor, second to none.

SPEAKER_04 (33:07):
Dang.

SPEAKER_08 (33:07):
Honestly.
Did you see the wall of jerky?
Jerky.
They've got so much beef jerky.
Yes.
But but I would say of all ofthe things that I think is fun
at Bucky's.
You know what I'm going to say?
It's the giant stuffed Buckythat they have.
That sits in the back of thetruck.

SPEAKER_02 (33:28):
He's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_08 (33:29):
Okay.
So I was making a joke to thekids.
I'm like, well, I wonder howmuch he is, and we're looking
for a price tag.
And one of the workers said,Well, he doesn't have a price
tag on him, but I can tell youhow much he costs.
Sure.
How much?
Anybody want to guess?
Because he's probably Buckninety nine.
He's probably what, four or fivefeet tall?
I mean, he's big.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (33:47):
He's big.
And he's on like the back of atruck.

SPEAKER_08 (33:49):
Yeah, he's big.

SPEAKER_01 (33:50):
Oh, eight hundred dollars.

SPEAKER_08 (33:51):
$750,$800.
Anybody else want to guessbefore I tell you?
$650.
$5,000.
Five grand.
Wow.
And I said to the kids, I'mlike, when do you have to ride
on the roof?
Bucky's going home with us.
Five thousand dollars is a smallprice to pay to have something
so wonderful in your home,right?
That's true.
That's true.
My wife made me settle for thehat.

SPEAKER_06 (34:11):
Yeah.
I don't know what a Bucky's is,but um, I was in Kentucky and
they had a really cool gasstation there while we're on
this topic.
It was a disco ball bathroom.
Nice.
They you go in there and itsays, Don't press this button,
and obviously you have to pressit.
It's mute.
Yeah.
And it just starts playing discomusic.
And I was we were just we wereon our way through, and this was
the coolest thing ever.
We're all like recording.

SPEAKER_08 (34:33):
In the bathroom.
In the bathroom.
We went to Legoland many yearsago when the kid when the two
oldest boys were just little,and their elevator in the
Legoland hotel is dance party.
So when you get in and the doorshut, like it's normal when the
door's open, the door shut, thefloor lights up and starts, and
then music starts playing, andeverybody dances the whole way
up to your floor.

SPEAKER_07 (34:53):
Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_08 (34:54):
So on the cruise, Adeline treated every elevator
ride like a dance elevator.
She danced in every elevator theentire time.
All the way up, all the waydown.
She didn't care how many people.
She didn't care who waswatching.
She danced every time.

SPEAKER_02 (35:09):
Well, she'll never see them people get exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (35:12):
There's an elevator on that ship, and they have a
piano guy in there.

SPEAKER_08 (35:15):
Oh, yes.
Really?

SPEAKER_01 (35:16):
And we wanted to go on it.

SPEAKER_08 (35:18):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (35:18):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (35:18):
So there's a piano guy that travels around on the
boat.
He has a piano, great big pianoon wheels, and he just pushes it
to random places, and he'll takeit in the elevator, and then
he'll play while he's in theelevator and sing.

SPEAKER_01 (35:28):
We saw a video of you singing with the piano guy.

SPEAKER_08 (35:31):
He was my favorite.
I loved him.
That's cool.
Yeah, I enjoyed him.

SPEAKER_01 (35:33):
We were on a floor and then we saw him and we're
like, oh, let's get on.
It was full.

SPEAKER_08 (35:38):
Yeah, it was full.

SPEAKER_04 (35:39):
How big was the elevator?

SPEAKER_08 (35:40):
They weren't very big, but the piano took up most
of it.
So probably only three or fourpeople would fit after the
piano.

SPEAKER_05 (35:46):
So how did you survive this cruise and not get
a job offer?

SPEAKER_08 (35:49):
Well, so here's the thing.
My wife and I talked about itseveral times.
She didn't, she's having nothingto do with this.
She wants nothing to do withthis because it's a seven-month
contract.

SPEAKER_04 (35:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (35:59):
You're on the boat for seven months straight.

SPEAKER_04 (36:01):
I've heard that.
Wow.

SPEAKER_08 (36:01):
No days off.
You work for seven months andthen you're off.
I think it's six weeks they giveyou off in a row.
And then you can resign foranother seven months.

SPEAKER_06 (36:12):
Lots and lots of money though.

SPEAKER_08 (36:13):
Yeah.
Well, she told me though shedoesn't care how good the money
is.
She does she will not let meleave for seven months.

SPEAKER_06 (36:18):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (36:18):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (36:19):
Unless you're taking two kids with you.

SPEAKER_08 (36:20):
Well, probably all three.
But I watched a video of a ladywhose husband works on the
cruise ship, and I think he'sthe cruise director, and so she
gets to cruise with him.
And she's allowed in both thestaff and in the guest areas.
So I thought that was prettycool.

SPEAKER_07 (36:36):
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (36:39):
Did you watch that one documentary about sketchy
things going on in on a cruiseship?

SPEAKER_08 (36:44):
Well, there were two.
There were two documentariesabout sketchy stuff on a cruise
ship.
One, the lady went missing, andthe other one was just doo-doo.

SPEAKER_04 (36:53):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've watched both of them.
I forgot about the doo-doo.

SPEAKER_08 (36:56):
When we got on the on the boat, I was like, Lord,
please don't let this happen.
And when you learn how the boatworks, you can see how quickly
that could happen.
Because everything is like it'sit's like an airplane.
Yeah.
So when you flush the toilet,it's like high pressure vacuum
like to flush the toilet.
But your shower is the same way.
And so when you shower, you cansmell the gas, the sewer gas

(37:19):
smell.
Like I because I have a reallyheightened sense of smell.
So that was one of my likebiggest pet peeves.
It was just, I felt like italways smelled like sewage.
It didn't, but I always likenobody else could smell it.
But I was like, you candefinitely tell.
And then when you get to a port,you have no idea what they're
doing.
But they're pumping poop.

SPEAKER_05 (37:39):
But you can because you can smell it.

SPEAKER_08 (37:41):
No, we didn't smell it.
We were right next to it when wewere getting back on the boat.
It's this great big hose thatruns up to the boat, and then
they've got this big old tankerdown at the bottom, and you know
fully well what they're doing.

SPEAKER_05 (37:51):
But would now see I thought I could smell it in our
bathroom.

SPEAKER_08 (37:54):
You may have been able to, but we didn't smell it.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (37:57):
Those heightened senses have them too.
So I always smell it.

SPEAKER_08 (38:02):
My wife's like, nothing in this house stinks.
I'm like, something in herestinks.
And then she finds a finds arotted apple under the couch or
something.
I'm like, I told you somethingsmelled.

SPEAKER_05 (38:10):
It's always that potato.

SPEAKER_08 (38:12):
We've got fruit flies right now.
Not, I'm sorry, not fruit flies.
I think they're gnats.
They're not fruit flies.
But we can't figure out wherethey're coming from.
I thought it was the garbagedisposal.
It's not the garbage disposal.
Now they're in the bedroom.
Like, because they like spreadout.
So you get one floating around.
I'm like, I'm gonna go crazy.

SPEAKER_05 (38:25):
You don't have a rotten potato or anything.

SPEAKER_08 (38:27):
No.
No, we ate all the fruit, madesure there was nothing floating
around that was can't find it,but it's like four or five of
them.
It's not like oh, there's gnatseverywhere in the house, but
it's enough to be annoying.

SPEAKER_05 (38:38):
It's ladybugs for us right now.
No, no, it's not ladybugs, it'sstink bugs at my house.

SPEAKER_08 (38:43):
Yeah, we we have been very fortunate.
We don't have any stink bugs.

SPEAKER_04 (38:46):
You know, mine is bees right now.
Like since the cold weather hasstarted, like we've been finding
these wasps upstairs.
And I'm like, they're dead, butI'm like, what?

SPEAKER_02 (38:55):
Well, they're froze to death.

SPEAKER_04 (38:56):
There was probably a nest in my house.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 (38:58):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (39:00):
I don't have no idea.

SPEAKER_08 (39:00):
Do you remember when Jenny had all those bees in her
wall?
Oh no, thank you.

SPEAKER_04 (39:04):
They're still in that house.

SPEAKER_08 (39:05):
Yeah, no, thank you.
Well, but it's painted now, sothat makes it all better, right?

unknown (39:09):
Totally.

SPEAKER_06 (39:11):
He said it's not the season to remove them yet.
Oh, they're honey bees, weren'tthey?
Yeah.
Yes, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (39:17):
Well, now is the season to remove them.

SPEAKER_08 (39:18):
Well, maybe it's not perfect season.
Maybe it's not, but maybe now'sthe season to burn the house to
the ground.
I don't know.
Because they it seems asinine,but anyhow, what are you gonna
do?

SPEAKER_06 (39:27):
We had a bad electrical problem last night,
actually.
And we woke up to the housesmelling really, really bad.
And so we shut it off and theywere came and replaced a whole
box because my husband was nothappy.
Yeah, he said, This is sodangerous, yeah, and you we
cannot live like this.

SPEAKER_08 (39:42):
So yeah, because you were there whenever I was trying
to shut off that electric.
Listen, Roger, you'll love this.
Didn't know where the breakerwas in the breaker box.
There's one, there's like threebreakers in the breaker box,
okay?
And they're all like wicked oldwiring.
So I'm like, I'll just touch thewires together to trip the
breaker.
Nope.

(40:02):
That breaker just stayed hot.
I just kept shooting sparks.

SPEAKER_06 (40:06):
Well, that was the problem at our house.
It the breaker was broken, so itwouldn't pop.
It just sat there smothering allnight.

SPEAKER_08 (40:12):
Yeah, cute.

SPEAKER_06 (40:14):
You're very well could have been a fire.

SPEAKER_05 (40:16):
Yeah.
Extension cords, probably.

SPEAKER_08 (40:18):
Yeah.
Yeah, I got oh, I got extensioncords through the attic of this
place all over the place.
Yeah.
Some of them, some of them arechewed through by the mice.
So they're mouse is next to itdead, but it's fine.
Like the cat.
Like the cat on uh what's itcalled?

SPEAKER_04 (40:40):
Margie.
Margie's Margie's probablylistening.

SPEAKER_08 (40:42):
No, the one that's on National Ampers Christmas.

SPEAKER_04 (40:45):
When the cat gets a cat, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (40:49):
I just watched that the other night.
It's a good one.

SPEAKER_05 (40:53):
So what's your favorite food at Thanksgiving,
Easton?

SPEAKER_06 (40:57):
Yeah, back to Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_08 (40:59):
Yeah, back to Thanksgiving.
Way to pull it back, Beth.
Good job.

SPEAKER_05 (41:02):
Well, fried cat kind of my appetite.

SPEAKER_08 (41:06):
Fried cat, that's his favorite meal for
Thanksgiving.
How'd you know?

SPEAKER_04 (41:09):
I can see it.
Actually, I can see Easton likegrilling it himself.
Probably.

SPEAKER_08 (41:15):
Probably.
Flip it by its tail.

SPEAKER_04 (41:16):
Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 (41:19):
Probably mashed potatoes and stuffing.
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (41:22):
He's only saying that because I said it.

SPEAKER_00 (41:23):
Yeah.
I was like, oh, stuffing.
Stuffing's the best.

SPEAKER_08 (41:26):
Stuffing is the best.
Mom made us a what was it?
It was chicken with stuffing andgreen beans.
Oh, I've made it.
It was like a casserole.

SPEAKER_05 (41:36):
So good.
So homemade stuffing or stoked?
Homemade.
Homemade.

SPEAKER_08 (41:41):
Homemade.

SPEAKER_05 (41:42):
Homemade.
Homemade.

SPEAKER_08 (41:44):
Okay, here's my deal.
I don't know that I've ever hadhomemade stuff.
Really?
No, I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I'll bet you I'll bet yourgrandmother has made it.
I don't think so.
I bet so.

SPEAKER_06 (41:52):
I don't like the celery though.
Everything else but the celery.

SPEAKER_08 (41:55):
See, that's why I say I've never had homemade
because I have never haddressing that had stuffing that
had celery in it.

SPEAKER_05 (42:02):
Now why don't you like the celery?
You don't like the celery.
Just how crunchy it is.

SPEAKER_08 (42:05):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (42:05):
See, now we always boil ours.
Yeah, make it soft.
Yeah.
I think that would be good.
We do the onions and the celeryin the chicken broth.

SPEAKER_08 (42:13):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've never been a fan of celeryat all.
Like, why do you drink stringyor why do you eat stringy water?

SPEAKER_01 (42:21):
It's just so crunchy.

SPEAKER_02 (42:22):
You gotta have you gotta have celery and peanut
butter.
Peanut butter.
No, the peanut butter.

SPEAKER_08 (42:27):
It doesn't matter how many ants you put on the
log, it is still nasty.
I'll lick the peanut butter outand throw it away.
I am not kidding.

SPEAKER_01 (42:38):
And then raisins.
Ants on a log.
Ants on a log.

SPEAKER_08 (42:42):
And then I would lick the peanut butter out and
throw the celery in the trash.

SPEAKER_01 (42:46):
Adeline would have to eat the celery for him.

SPEAKER_08 (42:49):
I don't like celery.
It's just a weird of course I'msaying that.
I don't like fruits orvegetables at all.
True.
If little Debbie started makingcelery, maybe I'd try it, but
until then.

SPEAKER_04 (43:00):
I don't know.
I feel like the stovetop is kindof dry, drier, I should say,
drier than like the homemadekind.

SPEAKER_08 (43:07):
But I think that's why I like it.

SPEAKER_04 (43:08):
Yeah.
I do like dry, like, but I alsoreally like my grandma's moist
dressing too.
I mean stuffing on a regularjust for dinner.

SPEAKER_06 (43:17):
So do we.

SPEAKER_08 (43:18):
We we'll have stuffing with there's uh another
chicken meal that she makes.
So we'll have so we eat quite abit of stuffing.
Stuffing.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (43:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (43:25):
Now green bean casserole.
Thanksgiving.
I'll eat it.
Nope.
I'll eat it.
Yeah.
I bring it to every everyonelikes my green bean casserole,
so I bring it a lot.

SPEAKER_08 (43:34):
Well, young adult party, bring green bean
casserole.

SPEAKER_06 (43:37):
Okay.

SPEAKER_08 (43:37):
You'll be my wife's favorite.
She loves it.
She can't make it at our housebecause I won't nobody in my
house eat it.

SPEAKER_06 (43:42):
Yeah.
Well, I brought it to theFriendsgiving and it everybody
eats the whole thing.

SPEAKER_08 (43:46):
So I feed mine to the dog.
Scrape it out and feed it to thedog.

SPEAKER_05 (43:52):
Speaking of dog.

SPEAKER_08 (43:54):
Oh boy.

SPEAKER_05 (43:54):
Your dog?
Yeah.
You know, I finally replaced myfurniture.

SPEAKER_08 (43:58):
Because your dog chewed through it.

unknown (44:00):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (44:00):
Why would you ever do that?

SPEAKER_08 (44:01):
I was going to say this too.

SPEAKER_05 (44:02):
Rid of the dog first.
Well, he's caged every day now.
Telly he's too smart too.

SPEAKER_08 (44:08):
But it takes him ten seconds to chew a hole in the
couch.
That's the problem.
She stops and goes to thebathroom.
There's a hole in the couch.

SPEAKER_05 (44:16):
I decided I put my Christmas tree up in there in
that room, and I thought, well,you know, it looks kind of
naked, so I'm going to wrap afew gifts and just put around
it.
Just empty boxes.
Yeah.
Every one of them is unwrappedand shredded.
I don't know what he thought hewas going to get out of an empty
box, but he's not going to getany presents under the tree.
I can tell you that.
He thought he was going to getsome fun out of it, and he did.

(44:38):
And the bows.

SPEAKER_04 (44:38):
Listen, I made really pretty bows, and it took
me a long time to make.
Was he watching you do this tolike wrap them and stuff?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I knew it.
Because if if he wasn't around,he wouldn't he wouldn't have
even messed with it.

SPEAKER_05 (44:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (44:55):
I'm surprised he hasn't tackled the tree.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (44:59):
Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_04 (45:00):
I don't think I'm gonna put ornaments like the
ball ornaments on because wehave a lot of like personal ones
that are funny and stuff.
Cause I'm like, we went intoWalmart the other day and Cooper
saw ornaments.

SPEAKER_08 (45:10):
Oh yeah.

unknown (45:10):
Ball!

SPEAKER_04 (45:11):
And I'm like, no, those aren't balls.
Those aren't balls.

SPEAKER_08 (45:15):
Be pulling them off and throwing them.

SPEAKER_05 (45:16):
Yeah.
You have to ask Margie about theball, the Christmas ornament
balls that I had.

SPEAKER_04 (45:22):
Were they big?

SPEAKER_05 (45:23):
Yeah, and they were all hand blown.
Um Clayton had a waffle ballpad.

SPEAKER_07 (45:30):
Oh.

SPEAKER_05 (45:31):
And I was sad and I can hear him saying, listen to
this.
Listen to this.

unknown (45:36):
Boom.

SPEAKER_05 (45:38):
Yeah, quite a few of them.
He broke before I got in there.
And he still laughs about it.

SPEAKER_08 (45:44):
I had a friend that uh bought Faberget eggs for
their Christmas tree.
I don't even know what aFabriger egg is, but they're
really flown egg.
They're not really superexpensive, right?
Yeah.
So he had tons of Faberger eggsfor his Christmas tree.
His Christmas tree rotated.
And he would only buy a bluespruce.
He had to have a live one.
It was only ever a blue spruceevery year.
It was ridiculous.

SPEAKER_04 (46:04):
And it rotated too?

SPEAKER_08 (46:05):
Yes.
Yes.
So it had a like a tree stand.

SPEAKER_04 (46:08):
Yes.

SPEAKER_08 (46:09):
The tree stand rotated.
And sounds dangerous.
It was, they were his trees werealways gorgeous.
So so beautiful.
I mean, he would spend dayshunting for a blue spruce.
Like the right tree.
He had to have the right tree.
And he had a house fire and lostall those Fabriger eggs in that
house fire.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (46:26):
Your tree is so gorgeous.
Thank you.
I just I'm so jealous of it.
It's white.
It's so tall.

SPEAKER_08 (46:32):
It's flocked.
It's so there's a fun storybehind that tree.

SPEAKER_05 (46:35):
That's not the one you put up last year, was it?

SPEAKER_08 (46:37):
No, because if you'll recall, last year we were
moving in whenever Thanksgivingwas coming around, and a couple
of the folks who were at thehouse helping us move in put up
an old tree because the pre-litlights didn't work anymore, so
they wrapped it in lights andmade it so pretty.
So I didn't like it because itwas kind of small.
It was only seven and a halffeet.
The ceilings are 10 feet in thatroom, and I was like, it's

(47:00):
whatever.
It's just okay.
So I got on MacBed and I boughtus a new tree last year.
I didn't measure the ceilingfirst.
Did you have to cut the treeoff?
No, it was 12 feet tall.
So it didn't fit.
So I had to take the tree back.
So then my wife and I, with thekids, drove the Tesla to Hobby

(47:23):
Lobby one night to just grab afew things.
And my wife says, I love thatChristmas tree.
It's 70% off.
I want it.
They only had the one ondisplay.
Or so we thought.
And I'm thinking, oh, we canprobably fit that in the car,
you know, out of the box,whatever.
So the lady's like, actually, wedo still have one in the box.
I'll go grab it for you.
So she comes out with his therewas no way that thing was

(47:46):
fitting in the Tesla.
Now, we were at Hobby Lobby inFairlawn.
Because they were the only onesthat had in stock an item that
was supposed to be shipped to usthat got lost.
Okay.
So we drove to Fairlawn, boughtthat, plus a hundred other
things, plus a Christmas treethat didn't fit in our car.
The next morning I had to driveback to Fairlawn to pick that

(48:06):
tree up.
So this is its first year inuse, and it is a really pretty
tree, but we also bought all newornaments for it.
It's red, green, and gold.
So it's like very traditional.
Um just speckles of red, not alot of red, more green, more
gold.
And I got about sick ofdecorating it about halfway
through, and I said, goodenough.
And that was that.

SPEAKER_05 (48:24):
So is the tree white or is it just flocked?

SPEAKER_08 (48:26):
It's flocked.
So it's a green tree, but it'sflocked.
The nice part of that tree isthat all of the branches, and I
don't mean when they lay down orspring loaded.
I mean like when they so youdon't have to fluff the tree.
When it when you take it out ofthe box and you set it up, I
mean everything is perfectlyplaced.
You can't even bend them if youwant to, because they just snap
back.
So yeah, it's a really prettytree.

SPEAKER_05 (48:47):
We might be going to Hobby Lobby tomorrow.
Last year I bought a new one andit was flopped in uh but it it's
a good thing.

SPEAKER_08 (48:54):
They're messy.
They're messy.
This one, this one wasn't toobad.
When we put it up, it was messy.
Vacuumed it up.
We haven't really had anyproblems since.
Is Sissy here?
I don't know.
I think that's what I taughther.
If not, it's the ghost of achild.

SPEAKER_04 (49:11):
Is she what's she doing?

SPEAKER_08 (49:12):
She's in there playing on the blocks.

SPEAKER_04 (49:13):
Oh.
Let's hope it's not a ghost.

SPEAKER_08 (49:16):
Oh, I bet it is.
I bet she was, but I bet Alyssawas going out to see Jenny.

SPEAKER_04 (49:20):
Oh, yeah.
Listen.
Yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_08 (49:23):
No, crazy is not the word for it.
So Marcus's hand.
Yeah.
Has anybody seen that today?
I'm not gonna show you thephotos.
But it's pretty nasty.
Oh, today.
You haven't have you seentoday's?

SPEAKER_04 (49:35):
She took a grinder to it.

SPEAKER_08 (49:37):
Yes, an angle grinder.

SPEAKER_04 (49:38):
Well, I I was messaging Jenny about those
cardboard boxes.
And I said, Hey, when you get achance, can you send me a
picture of those?
I want to see if Chase has anyat the garage.
She's like, Yeah, hold on aminute.
Like, Marcus just cut his fingerout.
Like, we're waiting on thesquad.
I'm like, oh my gosh, are youokay?
And she's like, No, like thesquad is coming now.
I'm like, oh well, let me knowif you need anything.
Like, oh I'm like, you didn'thave to respond to me right now.

SPEAKER_08 (50:00):
Bro, bro calls me from the back of the ambulance.
He's like, hey, Pastor Michael,I'm high on fentanyl right now.
He's like, I'm in the squad onmy way to the emergency room.
And I'm thinking he's touchedsomething or come in contact
with fentanyl and is like, thisis dangerous.
He's like, no, I almost cut mythumb off with an angle grinder.
He's like, and so they've got mehopped up.
Now he's just chit-chatting,like, nothing's going on, just

(50:22):
casual conversation.
He's like, I don't know howpeople do this every day.
It's kind of making me sick.
I'm like, don't puke in theambulance, man.
They will not appreciate that.
And I hear the lady in thebackground go, no, we won't.
So he's texting me, like kind ofkeeping me updated.
He and Jenny are.
And at five o'clock in themorning, I get a text message
from him that says, We're on ourway back to the ER with Jenny.
Her face looks like she got badBotox.

(50:44):
Now I'm like, oh man, let meknow how it goes.
Keep me updated.
Yeah.
But before I responded to thetext, I had seen her Facebook
post of her face, which wasslightly swollen.
And I was like, okay, that's notgood.
Yeah.
Then he sent me a new photo.

SPEAKER_03 (50:56):
I'm like, It's bad.
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (50:59):
Yeah.
Like happened just like that.
So, anyhow, they've got her onantibiotics, but she's been
admitted to all or at to Unionbecause they can't get her to
Cleveland.
They can't get a bed inCleveland.
Something's not just praying forher that my goodness.
And then Marcus found out he hasto have surgery on Monday to fix
his thumb.
So he cut a tendon.
So they have to grin air and soyeah, I guess.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 (51:20):
Jenny was texting me today, well, voice messaging me,
and she said, Hey guys.
She said, They just gave me mypayments.
I'm gonna take a nap.
And I said, Good night, Jenny.

SPEAKER_08 (51:32):
Yeah, you take that nap, girl.
You take that nap.
But her face did look bettertoday compared to yesterday.

SPEAKER_04 (51:38):
Yeah, my grandma even texted me because Alva,
she's like, I don't wantFacebook.
I don't want Facebook.
And then all of a sudden shegets Facebook just to watch the
reels.
And then all of a sudden peopleare like, Hey, your grandma got
a Facebook?
I'm like, Yeah, she says it'sjust watch the reels.
And then she texted me yesterdayand was like, Oh my gosh, did
you see Jenny's face?
What happened?
So I told her, and she's like,That's bad.

(51:58):
So I'm like, I know where yousaw that grandma.

SPEAKER_08 (52:00):
No, okay, I'm gonna show you the best thing ever
because tell me if it was thedrugs talking.
I don't know.
Hold on, let me find my textmessage thread with Jenny
because it was epic.
It was epic.

SPEAKER_05 (52:12):
She's definitely a little loopy too.
Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.
I'm just worried about it beingdone like in her job.
Well, that's what I was worriedabout.

SPEAKER_08 (52:18):
And an infection that close to her brain, like
that travels faster.

SPEAKER_04 (52:22):
Yeah, and it can go in your bloodstream.
Like, let's just your kidneysand yeah, all of it.

SPEAKER_08 (52:27):
I said to her, I said, it looks like you got hit
with a baseball.
She said, ha ha, Marcus punchedme.
He's and then she said he's gotthe wounded wounded hand to
prove it, and then sends me apicture of Marcus with his thumb
all jacked up and her face allswollen.
I'm like, that's pretty funny.

SPEAKER_06 (52:46):
She's taking it so well though.
Yeah, she really is.

SPEAKER_08 (52:48):
Yeah.
And so is Marcus.
He's panicked right now with histhumb.
He's a little bit worried aboutlike just the surgery.
But fortunately, his boss hasbeen wonderful to him.
They got him an extra day ofvacation and a sick day.
So he got two days that werefully paid, and then they
basically were able to roll himonto short-term disability.
So he's getting 60% of hisregular pay.

(53:09):
So, like, that's thumb is good.
I mean, that's gonna take alittle time to run.

SPEAKER_04 (53:15):
So that's what it did.

SPEAKER_08 (53:16):
And then obviously needing to be able to care for
the kids while Jenny is underthe weather.

SPEAKER_05 (53:20):
Well, Jarve's chewed up his hand before the grinder.
Not quite like that.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (53:25):
That little notch right there, I did the same
thing here.
And fortunately, I caught itbefore it got too bad, but it
takes the meat.
Oh, yeah.
It cauterized mine.
Like it was it hit so hard.
I mean, it was deep, but itcauterized and it never bled.

SPEAKER_04 (53:40):
So do we know what he was making?
Was he his Christmas trees?

SPEAKER_08 (53:44):
He was making the Christmas trees, but he was like
texturizing them with some sortof like special blade on it, so
it was like putting the waves init.

SPEAKER_06 (53:53):
Darn it, now I'm gonna have to buy a Christmas
tree.
I know.

SPEAKER_08 (53:55):
Well, he said the blood stained ones are 50% on
it.
So Jenny said he was trying tosell them to the girl in the
ambulance.
It was still pitching sales inthe ambulance.
That's hilarious.
We bought one for our house.
They were really cute.

SPEAKER_04 (54:12):
I want to buy one.

SPEAKER_08 (54:13):
I don't know what we're gonna do with it though.

SPEAKER_04 (54:14):
Put it on your porch.

SPEAKER_06 (54:16):
There's a lot of soap on the porch.

SPEAKER_08 (54:18):
Girlfriend.
I got a six-foot nutcracker onthe front porch.
That's true.
Put it out in the yard.
There we go.
Run a front of the porch.

SPEAKER_05 (54:25):
Hey, did your wife go get flowers?

SPEAKER_08 (54:28):
Two freaking bags.
We got so many flowers.
There's a lady in Janaton whowas Dahlia's.
Are they Dahlia's?

SPEAKER_07 (54:35):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_08 (54:36):
Are you sure?

unknown (54:38):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 (54:39):
I don't remember what they are.
But she was giving them away.
She was digging up her tubers orbulbs and was giving them away.
And my wife is my wife'sfavorite flower.
So she talked to the lady, madearrangements to go and pick
these things up.
She came home with two Walmartbags full.
And they're huge, so you can cutthem and make separate starts
off of them.

(54:59):
So did anybody see our zinniaslast year?
Our zinnias were literallypouring over into the backyard.
There were so many of them andthey were so big.
So now she's got these dahliasthat we're gonna also plant, and
we're gonna have zinnias anddahlias everywhere.
They're beautiful, but I meanseriously.
Maybe you won't have to eatgrass to mow.
Maybe.

SPEAKER_02 (55:18):
She'll just take putting them out in the yard.
Yeah, just plant the whole yard.

SPEAKER_01 (55:22):
We had some extra bags from the car.
And she was like, oh, we didn'tgrab bags.
She said, Easton, look in theback.
I'm like, oh crap.

SPEAKER_08 (55:31):
And we you can't do anything with them till spring,
so now they just sit in thegarage until springtime rolls
around.
I'm happy she enjoys working inthe flower beds.
It saves me from having to do itbecause I don't enjoy it.
Although right now she's got abunch of dead stuff in the yard.
Stuff that she's clipped to likeclean up the flower bed and
threw it in the yard and thenjust left it.
And now it's rained on it.

SPEAKER_05 (55:51):
Me.
Mine needs clips.

SPEAKER_08 (55:52):
I haven't even got out there to get mine done yet.

SPEAKER_04 (55:55):
Yeah, I still haven't cleaned up the outside,
you know, to winterize it.

SPEAKER_06 (56:00):
My host is all need cut back.

SPEAKER_04 (56:02):
Yeah, mine too.

SPEAKER_06 (56:03):
I only have one, but it's the weirdest thing, but the
raccoons pulled up my flowersand ate the roots.
Ate the roots.
So I was like, I don't even haveto do it.
He already did it.

SPEAKER_05 (56:12):
Yeah.
Are you sure it was at the deer?

SPEAKER_06 (56:14):
I don't I I'd assume it was the raccoons because
that's all I ever see on thecameras, but yeah, I don't know.
And I looked it up and raccoonslike to eat roots.
They'll eat the roots.

SPEAKER_07 (56:23):
Yep.

SPEAKER_06 (56:23):
So I didn't even have to do it this year.
I was like, alrighty.

SPEAKER_05 (56:26):
I have that antique wheelbarrow that I would always
put my impatience in.
And those deer would just go inthere and they'd root and root
and all that.

SPEAKER_08 (56:35):
We the hostas on the end of the church don't survive
because the deer come out andeat the tops off of them.

SPEAKER_05 (56:40):
They get mine right there in town too.

SPEAKER_08 (56:42):
Never survive.

SPEAKER_05 (56:43):
Did you see them down at your end and come that
way?
I'm gonna shoe them that way.
I thought she said she was gonnashoot them, and I was like,
there's some good flowers downthere.
Leave mine alone.

SPEAKER_02 (56:58):
Stupid deer ate all my horseradish roots or uh tops
off.
I mean, clear down clear down tothe root.

SPEAKER_05 (57:03):
Yeah, but you're in the country.
We're in town.

SPEAKER_08 (57:05):
Yeah, right.
Well, you're barely in town.
You're like edge, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_04 (57:12):
Yeah, yeah, and I was gonna say the town is cover
it's like surrounded by allthese cornfields.
Like it's a village surroundedby cornfields.

SPEAKER_08 (57:20):
Also, our town is not really a town, it's a
village, like I said.
It's more of a like stuck in thecornfield kind of situation.

SPEAKER_03 (57:28):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (57:30):
At least you got power.
That's true.
Okay, and flushing toilets.
That's right.

SPEAKER_06 (57:33):
And then to that.
And stray cats.

SPEAKER_08 (57:35):
And stray cats.
Oh.
Did anybody notice that there'sa bunch of porta potties outside
of Menards?

unknown (57:40):
No.

SPEAKER_08 (57:41):
I they can't figure out what's what's happening.
Maybe they're maybe they'reselling them.
Maybe they were renting them.

SPEAKER_04 (57:47):
I can ask my brother-in-law, he works there.

SPEAKER_08 (57:49):
Does he?
I I have to know.
Like, are they gonna do aremodel and then bathrooms
aren't gonna be accessible, soyou have to poop outside?
I'm just curious.

SPEAKER_02 (57:56):
Like you'd think they'd wait.
Well, if you wait until summer,then the heat would make it kind
of smelly.
Smelly.

SPEAKER_08 (58:02):
But there's like five or six of them out there.
Like there's a row of them, sosomething's happening.
They're right against thebigger.

SPEAKER_06 (58:07):
For the truckers.
Maybe people that deliver stuff,maybe.

unknown (58:10):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (58:11):
Yeah, but they're not that nice for delivery
people.
I was on the side of the road,seven and a half months
pregnant, trying to find a placeto pee.
That's why that Wayne Wrightporta potty became my best
friend.

SPEAKER_07 (58:26):
That's so funny.

SPEAKER_05 (58:28):
I don't know.
I think I I I'd schedule mypoops a little bit better and
set up music porta potty.

SPEAKER_01 (58:35):
Yeah, then it's soccer games.
Oh.
There's porta potties out there,and I'm like, I have to go to
the bathroom, but I don't wantto go in those porta potties.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (58:43):
And those ones, they were really good about cleaning
them regularly, but you justnever knew what you were gonna
find.
No, I'm not a big porta pottykind of person.
Yeah, I don't trust them.
Yeah, this is a greatThanksgiving conversation.

SPEAKER_04 (58:52):
Yeah, food to porta potties.
Well, you always you always needthe toilet after dinner.

SPEAKER_08 (58:59):
Uh does anybody have special Thanksgiving pants?

SPEAKER_04 (59:03):
No.
I do, but these ones that I haveon today will, and they might be
pretty nice.

SPEAKER_08 (59:08):
Yeah, I'm gonna definitely wear sweats because
they gotta stretch.
You know what I mean?
You gotta have gibb.
I used to wear jeans, then you'dhave to unbutton the top button
and maybe let the zipper down alittle bit in order to breathe.
Nah, I'm not gonna do that.
I'm just gonna wear sweats.
This is the first year that I'veever actually worn sweats or any
type like I was always in jeansbefore.
Morning, noon, and night.
I get up in the morning, I putjeans on, wore jeans until I

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went to bed.
Now I get home from work, pantsare gone, sweats are on, baby.

unknown (59:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (59:34):
You know what that's a sign of?
Old age.
And you know what?
I'm gonna get me some nice comfyslippers.
And then I'm be really feelingit.
Really feeling it.

SPEAKER_01 (59:43):
Yeah, as soon as he gets home, he's like, I'll be in
the bedroom getting changed.
Yep.
I'll be out in a second.

SPEAKER_08 (59:49):
Yep.
Sweatpants galore, baby.

SPEAKER_06 (59:52):
Now that I think about it, I think I've only worn
leggings and a long, like adress for the last four or five
Thanksgivings.

SPEAKER_08 (01:00:00):
I joke with my wife pretty regularly.
I'm like, hey, what size pantsdo you wear?
Leggings?
Because I mean my wife is almostalways in leggings.
She has a couple of pairs ofjeans that she wears, but she
much prefers her leggings.
And they're comfortable.
So why not?
Yeah.
Yoga pants, whatever.
They're all comfortable.

SPEAKER_07 (01:00:15):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_08 (01:00:16):
So at some point in life, you give up looking nice
just to be comfortable.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 (01:00:20):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:00:20):
Like, I'm not chasing anybody anymore.
Like at this point, like itjiggles when I jump.
So like I ain't got I ain'tgonna have no pride left.
I have no pride.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:31):
That's gonna be me after Thanksgiving.
Yeah.
Heck yeah.
Oh, that's stopping.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:35):
Oh, desserts.
What do we like?
Pineapple delight.

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:41):
Pumpkin.
I like the pumpkin roll.

SPEAKER_08 (01:00:43):
Okay.
That big question on the pumpkinroll.
Cream cheese or buttercream?
Cream cheese.

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:49):
Cream cheese.
Yeah.
I don't know if I know thedifference.

SPEAKER_08 (01:00:52):
Oh, you would know the difference.
You know the difference.

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:54):
Okay, then I think it's buttercream.
What's Pastor Holly's?

SPEAKER_08 (01:00:58):
It's uh cream cheese.
Cream cheese.
Yeah.
It's the only reason I'll eatit.
But I don't know, like, if youbuy it at Walmart, it's almost
always buttercream.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:06):
And I think that's the one that I'm.

SPEAKER_08 (01:01:07):
Oh, that's because I did.
Okay, so you haven't actuallyexperienced a real pumpkin roll
then.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:12):
No, I have.
No, you haven't.
I've tried it with cream cheeseand I don't prefer it that way.
What?
I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 (01:01:17):
Oh, Lord.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:19):
Mine's peanut butter pie.

SPEAKER_08 (01:01:20):
Oh, okay.
Okay.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:22):
Aunt Kathy, I can catch her peanut butter pie.

SPEAKER_08 (01:01:24):
I didn't know she made peanut butter pie.
I'm gonna need to talk to her.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:27):
Her, so Chad, her son, they just bought I know,
brickyard.
Brickyard.
Yes.
And before all of her and UncleEd's fiasco, like they were
like, hey, we're gonna have tohave your, you know, pumpkin
pie.
Like, we're gonna have to startselling it.

SPEAKER_08 (01:01:43):
Like, wait, pumpkin or peanut butter?
You jump shipping.
Peanut butter.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:46):
Peanut butter.
Everyone's gonna have to knowabout these.
And she's like, well, I couldreally I could do it, but she's
like, I might have to stopmaking the crust and like just
buy the crust.
So she might start selling themthere.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 (01:01:58):
Heck yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:59):
But they're really good.

SPEAKER_08 (01:02:00):
Yeah.
Anyone else?
What's your dessert choice?

SPEAKER_06 (01:02:03):
Back to the tradition.
My cousin Ariel used to makelike a cherry dump cake.
She'd just put like cherryfilling.

SPEAKER_07 (01:02:09):
Okay.

SPEAKER_06 (01:02:09):
And then she would put like a cake and then butter
on it and then bake it.
You just put the cake mix on andthen put butter slices and then
put it in the oven.
And it is so delicious.
Wait.
So easy.

SPEAKER_08 (01:02:20):
Wait.
Like maraschino cherries?
No, like or like cherry piefilling.
Cherry pie cherry pie filling.
Okay, just pour it in the pan.

SPEAKER_06 (01:02:26):
Yep.

SPEAKER_08 (01:02:27):
Put cake mix on top.

SPEAKER_06 (01:02:29):
Yep, a white cake box, a box of cake.

SPEAKER_08 (01:02:31):
Okay.
And then just like buttersquares on the top so that it's
interesting.

SPEAKER_06 (01:02:35):
It's so good.
And it makes it crumbly.
It is very good.
Interesting.

SPEAKER_05 (01:02:39):
It is so easy.

SPEAKER_08 (01:02:40):
I don't like cherries though.

SPEAKER_05 (01:02:42):
You could do it with any fruit.
Apple pie like your apple piepie.

SPEAKER_08 (01:02:45):
I think you missed my earlier statement where I
said I won't eat fruits orvegetables.
So I do like a Dutch apple pie.

SPEAKER_04 (01:02:52):
So maybe with apples, that would be okay.
That was try that.
All your years work in an Amishcountry.

SPEAKER_08 (01:02:57):
Probably.

SPEAKER_05 (01:02:58):
Well, I think with the apple, a lot of times you
can use like the spice cake mixand it's a few.

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:02):
Oh that's a good idea.
That would be good.

SPEAKER_04 (01:03:05):
My grandma makes the best lemon meringue pie, but
she'll make it for more thanjust Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:09):
Nope.

SPEAKER_04 (01:03:10):
But we would just eat the filling, like the lemon
meringue.
So now she'll like sometimesjust make the filling.

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:18):
Does she make real meringue?

SPEAKER_04 (01:03:20):
She does.

SPEAKER_08 (01:03:21):
I think.
I wish mine would be.

SPEAKER_04 (01:03:23):
I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_08 (01:03:24):
Yeah, you said your wife doesn't like to make
meringue.
I remember us having thatconversation at one point.
Yeah.
She I mean it's good, butMeringue is just whipped egg,
right?

SPEAKER_06 (01:03:33):
I know.
Is that what it is?

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:34):
It's whites.
Egg whites.
It's whipped egg whites.
And a little bit of sugar.
And it moves like jello.
Yeah.
Is that what you torch on thetop?
Yeah.
Well, no, you don't torch it.
You you put it in the oven.

SPEAKER_08 (01:03:43):
Oh, oh, oh.
That's what cooks the eggs.
Oh, see, I would have been likeI would have been out there with
a blowtorch.

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:51):
No, that's when you cook it, that's what that's what
makes it.

SPEAKER_08 (01:03:54):
That's how you do it.
I'm Gordon Ramsay over here.
I do it my way, Roger.

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:58):
Okay.

SPEAKER_08 (01:03:59):
That's also why we keep a fire extinguisher under
the sink.
You know what mine is?
Has nothing to do withThanksgiving.
It's not traditional at all.
Little Debbie's.
Christmas trees.
No.
Although I do love those.
Which by the way went to Targetthe other day to fill up my
snack drawer at work.
They don't they they're theywere sold.
Did not have any Christmas.
I couldn't even find any oftheir Christmas snacks.

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Their little Debbie Christmassnacks.
So instead, I bought a box ofzebra cakes, nutter butters, and
cosmic brownies.
And I'm still on the lookout formy Christmas trees.
So I'm gonna find some and dumpthem into my drawer.
Nutter butters, they're good.

SPEAKER_04 (01:04:33):
You like the pumpkin things too, don't you?

SPEAKER_08 (01:04:35):
No, I don't like the I'll eat them.
I'll eat them, but that's not myfirst choice.
The strawberry roll-ups, likethe strawberry with like the
Yeah, those are my favorite.

SPEAKER_04 (01:04:43):
Oh man.

SPEAKER_08 (01:04:44):
I keep there's an emergency strawberry roll in my
side table in the bedroom at alltimes.
Because you never know at threein the morning when you're gonna
want a snack, right?
So I just keep one in there.
Yeah.
Uh mine is cheesecake.

SPEAKER_04 (01:04:55):
Oh.

SPEAKER_08 (01:04:56):
Plain.
Plain plain homemade cheesecake.
And don't try to pass, don't tryto pass any of that crap that
comes in the tub that you liketry to split.
It's buttery.
Like, why is it buttery?

SPEAKER_05 (01:05:08):
Yeah.
My mom makes the best homemadecheesecake.

SPEAKER_08 (01:05:11):
My mom makes a really good cheesecake, but it's
hit or miss because sometimesit's super watery.
So when you cut it, it likefeels like it falls.
So it still tastes good, butit's just the consistency is not
quite right.
But if you want my favoritecheesecake of all time, I prefer
to buy cheesecake from Aldi inthe individual slices.

(01:05:31):
Delicious.

SPEAKER_04 (01:05:32):
Those are so good.
Yes.
Delicious.
The Dollar General Marketactually has like Really?
There's like three or fourslices.

SPEAKER_08 (01:05:38):
So it's original berry, strawberry, and like you
lose me because I only wantplain.
And so I go to Aldi and I getthe one that's plain, but then I
eat it with my fingers.
I don't even use a fork.
No need.

SPEAKER_06 (01:05:50):
Red Lobster has the best cheesecake.
Yes.

SPEAKER_08 (01:05:53):
We were just talking about going to Red Lobster
because Easton has has anewfound love for shrimp
cocktail.

SPEAKER_04 (01:05:58):
Oh.
Oh, I love shrimp cocktail.

SPEAKER_08 (01:05:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:06:00):
It's great.

SPEAKER_08 (01:06:00):
When we were on the cruise, we went to the main
dining room for dinner eachnight, and you could decide
basically what your what theycall the starter, what your
appetizer was, what your maincourse was, and what your
dessert was.
And you ordered everything atthe beginning.
And one night he's like, Dad,I'm gonna try shrimp cocktail.
Go for it, whatever.
If you don't like it, they'llbring you something else.
Who cares?
So they bring him shrimpcocktail and he's like, I really
like this.
And I'm like, no, you don't,you're just saying that.

(01:06:21):
He's like, Can I get anotherone?
Like, yeah, sure.
So they bring him another shrimpcocktail, he eats the whole
thing.
I'm like, okay, bro, really likeshrimp cocktail.
The next night he orders ashrimp cocktail and then asks
for a second.
The next night, they just startbringing him two at a time
because they're like, he's gonnaeat it.
So let me bring him two.
On the last night that we wereon the boat, he looks at me and
says, Can I get a third one?

(01:06:43):
Go for it.

SPEAKER_04 (01:06:44):
So Benson's has the best shrimp cocktail and that
Joe Tony's.

SPEAKER_08 (01:06:50):
Oh, the the one I can't go back there.

SPEAKER_04 (01:06:52):
Well, theirs was just like Is that the
steakhouse?

SPEAKER_08 (01:06:54):
Yeah.
I can't go there.

SPEAKER_04 (01:06:55):
I don't know if I think it was just how big theirs
were.
Like I don't think it was It waslike a jumbo shrimp.
Yeah, it wasn't like amazing,but Benson's so I can't go back
to Joe Tony's because the oldloms.

SPEAKER_08 (01:07:08):
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Oh, yeah, that's where youthat's where you were choking
and oh yeah.
And my wife basically told me toknock it off.
Physically choking on a piece ofsteak stuck in my throat.
I'm gasping for air, and she'slike, knock it off.
Knock it off, people are gonnastay up.
I'm over here right.
So I grabbed my napkin, cover mymouth, stick my fingers in my

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throat, and pull this piece ofsteak out.
And I'm that is so funny.

SPEAKER_06 (01:07:37):
The same thing happened to Bobby, but with a
gravy packet corner at Shoni's.
And I'm like, stop it.

SPEAKER_08 (01:07:44):
Like, what are you doing?
Well, she's like, I thought youdidn't like the steak and you
were being dramatic.
I'm like, bro, basicallychoking.
And I was like, in the momentwhen it happened when I started
to choke, I was like, this isit.
I'm gonna die in this restaurantsitting here.
There was no coming back fromit.
When I pulled that thing out,like I could see stars, like my

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it was traumatic.

SPEAKER_05 (01:08:10):
So did anybody try snail?

SPEAKER_08 (01:08:12):
No.
No, we did not try Escargo.
I tried lamb, which I had neverhad before.
Delicious.
Uh did you know that they giveyou mint gel?
Gel?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you use the mint gel withyours?

SPEAKER_05 (01:08:25):
I tried it once and I did you use the mint gel with
yours?
With your lamb?

SPEAKER_08 (01:08:28):
Yes.
The lamb is so stinking good.
Why anybody would want to try totop it with Colgate, I'll never
know.
Well, I it was awful.

SPEAKER_05 (01:08:36):
I just couldn't get past that it was a lamb, a baby
lamb.

SPEAKER_08 (01:08:40):
Oh, I didn't care.
They could have brought thewhole lamb out to the table that
night.
It was yummy.

SPEAKER_04 (01:08:45):
Could have brought the whole herd.

SPEAKER_08 (01:08:46):
Yeah, it was good stuff.
So I'd never had that before, soI ate that lobster, obviously,
which I've had before, but itwas okay.
It wasn't great on the ship.
You could tell it was masscooked.
Um, it was a little rubbery, butit was good nonetheless.
Uh, what else did I try?
I ate something different everynight.
I tried something new everynight.

(01:09:08):
But you should do.
I didn't go with the S cargo.
We had the option.

SPEAKER_05 (01:09:11):
I I tried it.
It was like eating snot.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09:18):
I had red velvet cake.
Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_08 (01:09:21):
Oh, yeah.
Yes, that was a that was aneye-opener for him with red
velvet cake.
Yeah.
Did you did you try any oysters?
Did it have any oysters?
They didn't have oysters.
That wasn't an option.
We probably could have had weeaten off the boat at some
point, but we didn't.

SPEAKER_05 (01:09:34):
So the did they still have like the midnight
buffet that has all the icesculptures and all that?

SPEAKER_08 (01:09:41):
No.
So we would sneak down, notsneak, but we would go down to
the pizza shop on the fifthdeck, and we would just get, we
would each get five five slicesof pizza and take them back to
the room, and that was ourmidnight snack.
I just had when we got off thecruise, I said to my wife, if I
never see another slice ofpizza, I would be okay.
I ate so much pizza on thatcruise because it was right in

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the middle of the ship, so itwas readily available.
Emmett, I don't know how he eatshot dogs anymore.
That kid ate hot dogs the entirecruise because on the boardwalk
you they had a hot dog stand andyou could get hot dogs all day
long.
And he would go out there and hewould be like, Hey dad, can I go
grab a hot dog?
Like, dude, you just had lunch20 minutes ago.
He's like, Yeah, I want a hotdog.
And he'd go up there and he'dget a hot dog, and he'd eat it,

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and then he'd go back and getanother one.
But he eats three all beef hotdogs at our house at any given
time.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:30):
Oh yeah.

unknown (01:10:30):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:31):
For breakfast, we're like, no, not for breakfast.
Lunch, we're like, How many hotdogs are you gonna get?
He's like, three, my normal.

SPEAKER_08 (01:10:38):
Yeah.
And then he crushes the bunaround the hot dog.
Oh, yeah, that yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (01:10:42):
I do it too.

SPEAKER_08 (01:10:44):
Really?

SPEAKER_06 (01:10:44):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:10:44):
What's the difference?

SPEAKER_06 (01:10:45):
Well, I don't like condiments.

SPEAKER_08 (01:10:47):
So I don't either.

SPEAKER_06 (01:10:48):
So I just have to, I don't know, just I want it all
the way around the hot dog ifI'm gonna eat it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10:53):
Interesting.
Yeah.
Adeline wanted a hot dog, andshe wanted a bun with it, and he
already like squeezed ittogether, and she's like, What
did you do to it?
He's like, What I always do, Isqueeze the bun together.
We're like, Are you crazy?

(01:11:13):
How do you do that?

SPEAKER_08 (01:11:14):
He is Emmett is he's a weird eater.
Very weird eater.
But the cruise food is the bestfood.
I don't care what anybody says,but that's mainly because it's
free.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:23):
Yeah.

unknown (01:11:24):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:11:24):
You really can't go wrong.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:26):
Well, and they 24-7.
Yeah, pretty much.

SPEAKER_08 (01:11:28):
Pretty much.
We did learn that the day of ourcruise, the day we boarded the
boat, if you booked that cruisethat day, so boarding day, it
was$300.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:11:42):
So if you live in Fort Lauderdale or Orlando or
any of those places that's aseaport, you could literally
cruise.
It cost us$3,000 to cruise.
Now that was all five of us, andthere were some extras and
things like that in there.
Cost us$3,000 to cruise.
However, could you imagine beingable to do it for$300 person?

(01:12:02):
And kids sail free.
Right.
So it would have been$600basically for that that trip for
us.
Crazy.

SPEAKER_05 (01:12:08):
Yeah.
It's anything that's not sold.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:12:11):
Yeah, because they want to fill it.
They might as well fill it ifthey're going to be able to do.

SPEAKER_04 (01:12:14):
Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_05 (01:12:15):
But honestly, if you look at a vacation, what you
spend on how where you stay,where your meal is.

SPEAKER_08 (01:12:20):
Cheapest vacation we've ever been on.
Even so I I guesstimate, andthis would be hotel stays there
and back, which we didn't stayon the way back.
So hotel stays.
Gas, the food that we ate on theway there and back, any of the
stuff that we bought to takewith us, probably even the extra

(01:12:41):
suitcases we had to buy to comeback home.
Uh I would guess we spent nomore than$5,000 on that
vacation.
So$1,000 a piece, and that'sreally fairly inexpensive.

SPEAKER_04 (01:12:49):
Yeah, especially because it was longer than a
week.

SPEAKER_08 (01:12:51):
That's what I was gonna say.
It was it was eight days we wereon the boat, and then the drive
there and back, we were gone foralmost 14 days.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:12:57):
Well, and then once you do a cruise, and then when
you book your next one, you getPerks and Polaris.
You get a cheaper rate.

SPEAKER_08 (01:13:04):
We had one guy on our cruise.
What was his name?
Karaoke guy.
What was his name?

SPEAKER_01 (01:13:10):
Dan.

SPEAKER_08 (01:13:10):
No, no, you're wrong, karaoke guy.
The one that always went first.
Artie.
Artie was on the boat with us.
He recorded every song he eversang at karaoke with his GoPro.

But here's the thing (01:13:21):
I noticed that the GoPros were for sale on
the boat.
So I was thinking, that'sinteresting.
I bet Artie's a high roller.
He goes down to the casino andgambles.
And so he probably cruises forfree.
He gets his room for free.

SPEAKER_04 (01:13:36):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:13:36):
Gets all of the prizes and rewards and things
like that because he spends allof his money in the casino.
Would be my thought.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:44):
Yeah, see, that'd be one of my big fears with the way
my husband lays casino.

SPEAKER_08 (01:13:48):
Oh.

SPEAKER_05 (01:13:50):
Because there's no regulatory out there.

SPEAKER_08 (01:13:51):
So they it's not like we walked through the
casino and I was like, nope,gotta go.

SPEAKER_04 (01:13:56):
That's what I would have to do.
Chase would be like, oh, yeah.
But like, if we'll each giveourselves like a hundred bucks,
nope.
I'm like out in a minute.
And then Chase is like, here,just have mine.
Like, really?

SPEAKER_08 (01:14:07):
Yeah, I can't.

SPEAKER_04 (01:14:08):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:14:08):
I have zero self-control.
Zero.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can't gamble.
And I know I can't gamble.
I can't even go to Chuck E.
Cheese.
I'll be pushing kids out of fromin front of machines and be
like, get out of my way.
I gotta get me a spider ring.
Ticket, ticket, ticket.

SPEAKER_06 (01:14:22):
Gotta get me a ticket.
Tickets, please.
I've stopped going to gasstations because of the pool
tabs.
Those are just way too fun forme.
So I don't do them no more.

SPEAKER_08 (01:14:30):
I went to the bowling alley the other day and
for Chris work work party andthey had this machine.

SPEAKER_04 (01:14:38):
Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_08 (01:14:40):
Yeah.
And like it spits out a littlecard and you peel the card and
you went.
That's a pool tab.
Yeah, pool tab.
Okay.
So have never seen those beforein my life.

SPEAKER_04 (01:14:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:14:48):
Joes.
Little Joes.
Big Joes.
Had never seen those before inmy life.
But I watched a YouTube video ofthis guy who likes he took$500
into a gas station and he bought$500 worth.
Are they a dollar a piece?

SPEAKER_06 (01:15:00):
Yeah.
Or up to five.
Okay.

SPEAKER_08 (01:15:02):
So he buys$500 worth and he's standing there pulling
them, hoping to make his moneyback.
He makes like$45 on his$500.
I'm like, that is why I do notgamble.
Like I don't like risk likethat.
Now I will invest in the stockmarket all day because I think
that's fun.
But yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:15:19):
There's people that go and they will go buy a whole
brand new role.
Oh, yeah.
Dollar lottery tickets, thinkingpaying five, six hundred dollars
for a role.

SPEAKER_08 (01:15:27):
And then I'm certainly gonna win something.
Yeah.
We so I when I managed thehotels locally, we had a gas
station in New Concord.
And so it's illegal for you tosell lottery tickets to
yourself, right?
So there's lots of regulationsin the way that it works.
But we found out that we had onegirl working at the gas station

(01:15:48):
who, when the role came out, shewould scan it for the winners.
So basically, she would take theroll and she would scan it, and
when she found the winner, shewould buy up to that point, cash
in the winner, and pay for theones that she lost on, right?
And then walk away with whateverthe winnings were.

(01:16:09):
But she would ring them up insomebody else's number.
So needless to say, not only didshe get fired, but she got in
trouble legally as well.
And we didn't turn her in.
The lottery called us.
They're like, something's notright.
You guys have a lot of winnersvery quickly, very rapidly, and
it's always the same person.
Same number, yeah.
Yeah, the same cashier, thesame, yeah.

(01:16:31):
It was so it was yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
Big stuff.

SPEAKER_04 (01:16:36):
Mom.
Yeah.
That was fun.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:16:38):
We didn't really talk about Christian traditions
in Thanksgiving, but save thatfor now.

SPEAKER_04 (01:16:42):
Yeah, we knew this would be kind of something.
Something a little something.

SPEAKER_08 (01:16:45):
Yeah, especially when you put me in here.
Yeah.
Yeah, you never know what'sgoing to come out of his mouth.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:16:49):
Well, I think it's talk about Christian traditions.
I don't know if it's reallytraditions, but I think people
were more giving and moreconsiderate of people's needs
during the Thanksgiving.
Yeah, but during the Christmasholidays.

SPEAKER_02 (01:17:01):
Don't you think we ought to be that way all the
time?

SPEAKER_08 (01:17:02):
Oh, we should be all the time.
And I think her your point is itis a point where we start to
shine or we start to feelfocused on it.
But it is really odd that that'swhat then it that it only lasts
for a couple months.
Typically January 1st, it'sover.
Yeah.
You know what's interesting tome is that we tend to want to

(01:17:23):
give more in seasons when whenhelp is available, right?
So for instance, Share Christmashappens at Christmas time.
Everybody, every church in thearea, every individual wants to
help support a family throughChristmas.
Well, here's the thing.
What about birthdays?
What about you know what I mean?
There's other holidays that weshould be helping with.

(01:17:43):
And not that let me be clearthat the church is not designed
necessarily to be a charity.
Right.
So we want our money to go backinto the community, but we want
it to go back in large wayswhere we're helping mass amounts
of people.
We want it to help more peoplethan not, right?
Yeah.
So like when the fires happenedat JC and we were housing people
here, things like that.
But oftentimes we'll focus onwhat we deem is important, which

(01:18:08):
may be Christmas or whatever,and there's already help
available to people throughShare Christmas or you know, the
Salvation Army, all of thedifferent places.
But we miss those kids'birthdays or you know, it's
really interesting.
Yeah, it is.
There was a conversation goingon on Facebook.
One of our young adult friends,as a matter of fact, said

(01:18:29):
something about it's hard todetermine how Santa delivers
presents because just if anybodyhas kids, now's the time to
either pause and/or mute whilewe have this conversation.
Easton is aware, so we can havethis conversation with him in
the room.
But my daughter, who's outthere, is not.
Anyhow.

(01:18:50):
If you're a parent, does Santabring all of the gifts to your
house?
Or does Santa bring a selectnumber of gifts?
In our house, Santa brings onegift for each of the kids.
It is wrapped in specialwrapping paper.
It comes from the North Pole,and that is Santa's gift.
Typically, it's whatever they'veasked for on their Christmas
letter to Santa, right?

SPEAKER_05 (01:19:08):
Yes.

SPEAKER_08 (01:19:08):
And we try to make that as simple as possible
because we want our kids, firstof all, to understand that
Christmas isn't free.
It costs money.
And to also understand it's whywe help other people.
It's why we want to give toother people.
Because when we can help anotherfamily, we don't need, right?
We don't need all of the things.
We have something every day, youknow, we're we're blessed with

(01:19:31):
good health, with, you know,warm house, all of those things.
So we try to do that.
But my wife doesn't stop there.
Like my wife will turn aroundand you know, we're buying
Christmas or birthday presentsfor neighborhood friends.
And you know, we make sure thatthere are kids that come over
that feel welcomed in our homeat any given time.

(01:19:52):
We during the summer months,there's almost always some
random kid at our dining roomtable for dinner.
He's still gonna be like, Hey,can so and so stay for dinner
tonight?
Sure.
Right?
Like they need to talk to theirmom, make sure that they don't
need to eat dinner at home orwhatever.
But and it's crazy how many ofthose kids are like, Oh, my mom
doesn't care.
And they don't even go home.
They're with us for there arekids in our neighborhood that

(01:20:14):
will be at our house for eight,10, 12 hours.
Never go home and check in.
It's I mean, it's just wild.
And not that that's a detrimenton parents.
I think it's it's just adifferent world.
And so some parents don'toperate like my wife and I do,
and so we try to help beyondthose seasons where help is
available.

SPEAKER_06 (01:20:33):
So in my house for Christmas, we like for Santa, we
do like little gifts because Idon't want my kids to go to
school and be like, I got abrand.
I got an iPad.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:20:43):
Yeah, we're the same way.

SPEAKER_06 (01:20:44):
And and par there are parents that do that, and
then my kids will come home andbe like, Mom, why do you think
that Santa didn't give me aniPhone?
I'm like, because we are as aparent, yeah, you know, we get
you your special gifts.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, Santa doesn't make,you know, iPhones.

SPEAKER_05 (01:20:58):
Like unfortunately, I've had to tell, I used to tell
my kids, you know, Grim I haveto pay.
Yeah.
I have to give Santa money.
Yeah.
So Yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_08 (01:21:06):
You know, that's another that's another good
twist.

SPEAKER_05 (01:21:09):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:21:09):
Yeah, the the big one for me is Santa always
brings the toy on the wish list.
Like last year, and and someyears my kids will get me.
Like last year, Adeline asked atthe last minute for a summer
McKinney American Girl doll.

SPEAKER_07 (01:21:20):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_08 (01:21:21):
So we had to pay for overnight shipping for this
doll.
We had three days to Christmas,we had to pay for overnight
shipping, and that doll didn'tcome on time.
It was supposed to be deliveredthe day before Christmas Eve,
and it didn't come on the 23rd.
So we call them, we're like, thedoll didn't come, we need this
thing like ASAP.
How do we make it right?
They're like, okay, rebuy it.
We're gonna give you overnightshipping, it's gonna cost you

(01:21:42):
nothing for the overnightshipping, and then when the
other doll comes, send it backto us.
Freaking Christmas Eve, boththose dolls showed up.
Both of them.

SPEAKER_03 (01:21:51):
Of course.

SPEAKER_08 (01:21:51):
Both of them.
But either way, she got herdoll.
But we're not typically likethat.
Like it would have just beensomething else comes from Santa.
Yeah.
But that one we were justhopeful that it would come.
But the point is, is an Americangirl doll is not that they're
not expensive, so I don't reallylike play it off.
It's not like they got a yo-yo,but it's always like something
that could be made in aworkshop.
You know what I mean?

(01:22:12):
Something that Santa could makefor that same reason.
Like Santa doesn't make iPads.

SPEAKER_04 (01:22:16):
No, yeah.
Apple makes iPads.

SPEAKER_08 (01:22:18):
That's they don't, yeah.
And so, you know, but our houseis so much different than the
house of the friends that mykids have too.
None of my kids have TVs intheir bedrooms.
Yeah, they don't have their ownXboxes, they don't have their
own.
These are family items.
Now they each have a switch sothat they can because they're
handheld systems that they canplay together.
Yeah, but like big stuff isyeah, those are communal, you

(01:22:41):
know what I mean?
Like there's a TV in the livingroom, there's one in the family
room, and if they want to watchTV, those are the two places
that they can do it.
Nobody's going to their bedroomto watch TV.
Because then you never get themout of there.
Right.
Right.

SPEAKER_06 (01:22:52):
Exactly.
Right.

SPEAKER_08 (01:22:53):
Right?

SPEAKER_06 (01:22:53):
Like I admire that because my kids have TVs in
their rooms, but that wasbecause I didn't have a TV until
I was 17 years old, and I wantedto give my family.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_08 (01:23:03):
And we were the same way.
We had TVs, though.
My wife and I both had TVsgrowing up.
Yeah.
And so looking at it on the flipside, like you didn't have it,
so you wanted to give it.
I had it and I knew what it didto me.
Right.
Yeah.
I remember when I I got a DVDplayer for Christmas and I got
The Patriot, which why myparents ever bought me that
movie.
Oh.
Did you ever listen to listen toit on Surround Sounds?

(01:23:25):
I love the movie.
I think that movie is fantastic.
I love it to this day.
But they bought me that in theGrinch.
And I remember watching those onrepeat in my bedroom nonstop.

SPEAKER_07 (01:23:32):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:23:32):
I didn't come out of my bedroom, right?
Because why would I?
Like I had everything I needed,all of the necessities.
I could watch TV.
I could do all of the things.
And I, we didn't want that forour kids.
And I remember talking to Alyssanot long ago.
Emmett has a big bedroom in thebasement.
He's got the biggest bedroom inthe house.
And I was talking to her aboutgetting him a TV, and she said,
absolutely not.
She said, if he wants to watchTV, the family room is right

(01:23:54):
outside of his door.
Yeah.
He can go to the family room andwatch TV.
And then he can go back to hisbedroom.
He doesn't need his own TV.
I was like, you know what?
She's kind of right.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:02):
Right.
Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_08 (01:24:03):
It's just, it's a it's a difference.
And there's no right or wrongway to do it.
You know, some parents let theirkids have tablets all day long.
We do not.
Our kids get their tablets afterdinner, or if like we're doing
something, like we're doing aproject in the house, they might
get it early during the day too.
But it's not unbridled andunvetted, and they get to have
it whenever they want.

(01:24:24):
I mean, all of their iPads, allof their tablets turn off at
eight o'clock every night.
Like that's shut off time.
And just the way that we do it.
But we also watch other people'skids who Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (01:24:34):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:24:35):
You see it.

SPEAKER_06 (01:24:35):
You know, YouTube can ruin a kid.
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_08 (01:24:38):
And that's what started it.
Do you remember there were theYouTube videos that allegedly
had that really creepy lookingface that were like hidden in
the city?
I've seen them.

SPEAKER_07 (01:24:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:24:48):
So I've never seen a video that had it.
Like my I don't know that mykids ever saw it.
But that was when my wife and Iwent, YouTube is no longer.
Yeah.
And they have YouTube kids.

SPEAKER_06 (01:24:55):
Yeah.
And oh, it's not any better.
So we completely cut it out.

SPEAKER_08 (01:24:58):
So we monitor their YouTube kids.
Emmett, like Emmett has a cellphone now, and I had to fight
Alyssa to let him get a cellphone.
But it's truly, I think, is thename of the brand.
And so it's a Samsung phone, buthe can only download apps that
we give him.

SPEAKER_06 (01:25:16):
It's good.

SPEAKER_08 (01:25:16):
He every text message that he sends is
monitored through Alyssa'sphone.
If he sends something that isdeemed potentially hazardous to
him or somebody else, itnotifies us.

SPEAKER_03 (01:25:26):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:25:27):
Now, he can't say the word poop or fart or any of
those things because it'llnotify us.
But it's very, very particular.
But I will tell you that ithelped us a lot in one of his
situations.
So he had a little girl that heliked, and I told him, I said,
if you guys are gonna call eachother boyfriend or girlfriend,
that's fine.
But we're not holding hands andwe're not kissing, like you're
too young for that.

(01:25:47):
You don't understand that.
Like we're not doing that.
And he's like, Okay, that'sfine, whatever.
And so she stopped comingaround.
And I was like, Well, that'sweird.
So I asked him, I said, Hey,what happened with Tally?
And oops, probably shouldn'thave said that.
And he gives me some BS story.
And I said to my wife, I want tosee your phone.
So he's not around at thispoint.
Like the story just didn't makesense.

(01:26:08):
And I start reading their textmessages.
And I said to my wife, I said,Nope.
He's lost all ability to like hecan like a girl, he can think
she's pretty, but we're nothaving relationships because he
doesn't know how to treatsomebody.
And she said, What do you mean?
And I let her read the textmessages.
And he was plain mean, justplain mean.
That's not acceptable.

SPEAKER_03 (01:26:26):
No, no.

SPEAKER_08 (01:26:27):
So I made him apologize.
I said, I want I expect you toapologize to her.
I said, What you did was not notappropriate.
I said, And I don't want you tojust say, I'm sorry.
I want you to explain why you'resorry and how you're gonna do
things differently in thefuture.

SPEAKER_03 (01:26:37):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:26:38):
So I asked him about an hour later, Did you
apologize?
And he said yes.
And I said, Did you apologizeappropriately?
He said yes.
I read the text message and hesaid, I'm sorry.
And she said, for what?
He said, for not being nice.
I'm like, no, not acceptable.
No that's not how we treatpeople.
And now when she comes around,he is a jerk.

(01:27:00):
So and it's age appropriate.
Yeah.
Right?
So, like, to be fair, it's ageappropriate.
Like in that.
They don't know how.
Yeah.
Right.
He's and he's gotta learn how todo it.
But at the same time, I willtell you this that the the birds
and the beast conversation, notfun, right?
But I did it.
Like, yeah, did it, did it, likethe whole thing.

(01:27:21):
And it was a wild time becausehe had no idea.
He didn't know.
And if he would have like he hadnot not an inkling, not even the
smallest, didn't understand anyof it.
So it was a like an eye-openerfor me that he didn't realize it
because it felt like he should.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:27:39):
He did.

SPEAKER_08 (01:27:40):
Yeah, it felt like but to realize that he didn't,
and then to be able to be honestwith him, and like now he like,
hey dad, and he'll ask mequestions.
Yeah.
And I'm like, okay, great.
Like we're on the right track.
It's still uncomfortable.
All right.
But that's a difference inparenting style.
I didn't get that.

SPEAKER_07 (01:27:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:27:56):
I got it in school.
Yes, right.
Same.
Yes.
Nobody told me about that stuff.
I didn't understand it.

SPEAKER_06 (01:28:04):
I'm I'm scared.
Very scared of thatconversation.

SPEAKER_08 (01:28:07):
It's not fun.
It's not fun.
But it's different too, I think,personally, coming from a
Christian standpoint, to be ableto share biblically what we're
talking about.
Yeah.
Not just like in the flesh.

SPEAKER_03 (01:28:19):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:28:19):
We're able to.
And we actually bought a bookthat was kind of a workbook for
parents and kids to do togetherwhen you get to that age.
He asked that we not do ittogether, but he wanted the
book.
So he at least had a point ofreference.

SPEAKER_04 (01:28:35):
Yeah.
That's good.

SPEAKER_08 (01:28:36):
So but those conversations are not easy.
They're not fun, but they areneeded because if we don't do
it, they learn it from the work.
And now he feels comfortablewith that to come and talk to
it.

SPEAKER_04 (01:28:48):
Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_08 (01:28:50):
Yep.

unknown (01:28:50):
Oh.

SPEAKER_04 (01:28:51):
Well, that wasn't Thanksgiving related.
Meanwhile, mine I was watchingAnd Lauren.
I was listening to PastorMichael Monday, and he was like,
Cooper was in the bath likedoing stuff, and I was getting
ready, and Michael's like, heymen.
And Cooper goes, Hey men.
I'm like, what did you say?
Hey man.

SPEAKER_05 (01:29:12):
I've tried like four or five different times to
listen to the service.
And I try to do it when I'm atwork.
I when I listen to it throughthe on bus book.

SPEAKER_08 (01:29:25):
Yeah.
If your screen closes, it timesout.

SPEAKER_05 (01:29:28):
Yeah.
And then I have to start overagain.

SPEAKER_08 (01:29:29):
So your best bet is to go to either the podcast or
somewhere like that.
And then you can't do that.

SPEAKER_05 (01:29:35):
Yes.
Because I'm like, well, I musthave missed something.
God thinks I need to hear in thebeginning, because here I go
again.

SPEAKER_08 (01:29:42):
I always so like you guys release in advance.

SPEAKER_04 (01:29:45):
Yes.

SPEAKER_08 (01:29:45):
So I always listen.

SPEAKER_04 (01:29:48):
To the one that we did tonight.

SPEAKER_08 (01:29:49):
To the one that you recorded that night.
Yeah.
And it's the same way becauselike you wouldn't have access to
that.
But I open the app and I canlisten to it.
But as soon as my screen time'sout, it stops.
And so then I have to like Ihave to keep my screen awake
while I'm while I'm listening.

SPEAKER_05 (01:30:02):
So well, but it happens is I have to hit pause
because my phones rang orsomething's come up where I'd
have to make a phone call.
You know.
Yeah.
If you just get on the podcastapp, it'll be a lifesaver.
Okay.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:30:13):
To do that.

SPEAKER_05 (01:30:13):
Yep.
Yep.
I'm excited.
I might get to actually listento podcasts for a long time.

SPEAKER_08 (01:30:18):
I for a short while got really bad about not
listening consistently.
And then I'd be like, oh man, Imissed two weeks.
And I would go back and listen,but it's not the same.

SPEAKER_03 (01:30:26):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (01:30:26):
Like for me, I want to.
It's almost kind of like beingon the in the know.
You know what I mean?
Like I want to know whathappened.
But now that you guys arereleasing like a head, I don't
feel so pressured because I knowit's not.
Technically live at that point,so yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (01:30:40):
Bobby's been with listening to them every week and
he enjoys them at work.

SPEAKER_08 (01:30:44):
So it's nice, it's nice, it's something to listen
to, and I'll be honest, I talkback to you guys.
Like, I'll be arguing with you.
Seriously.
Seriously, I'll argue.
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no,no, no.
Like, if I were listening tothis episode and you said
something about what did you theno the stinking buttercream
filling up?
I'd have been like, no, Sid,that's just nasty.

SPEAKER_04 (01:31:06):
Well, there's times Aunt Tanya will be listening to
it.
She's texting you.
She's texting me, and there'stimes where she'll get behind on
because she has certain ones shelistens to every week.
And I'm like, gosh, how farbehind are you?
I don't want to remember that.

SPEAKER_08 (01:31:19):
Yeah, especially when you guys are releasing a
week.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_05 (01:31:26):
Well who prayed last week?
Who knows?
I did, but Pastor Michael hasn'tbeen here for a house.
Oh, geez.

SPEAKER_08 (01:31:34):
All right.
I'll take my turn.
I'll take my turn.
Good.
Take one for the team.
Yeah, I'll take one for theteam.

SPEAKER_03 (01:31:40):
Alrighty.
That's my turn.

SPEAKER_08 (01:31:44):
Heavenly Father, we just thank you for our time
together.
And Lord, I pray that just aswe've had this conversation, and
while it hasn't been all aboutThanksgiving, Lord, that it's
touched somebody's heart orsomebody's lives.
Lord, I thank you for the peoplearound the table, for their
hearts, for their stories,Father, for their traditions.
Whatever it may be, Lord, I praythat you just continue to lead
this group, that you continue toguide them.

(01:32:04):
Lord, allow us to just continueto be blessed through your word,
through your fellowship.
Lord, just allow us to continueto lift each other up in prayer
as we're lifting up Jenny andMarcus today.
Lord, I pray that you justcontinue to move through us so
that we can continue to reachout to our community.
Father, we thank you and wepraise you.
We give you all the honor andglory in the mighty name of your
precious Son Jesus Christ.
Amen.

(01:32:24):
Amen.
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