When Nothing Goes According to Plan

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We've all been there—the carefully laid plans suddenly derailed by a flat tire, a work crisis, or an airport nightmare. In this candid and deeply relatable conversation, we explore how life's unexpected moments reveal our true character and faith.

When things go sideways, our initial reactions often involve frustration, anger, or anxiety. But what if these disruptions are actually opportunities? Through personal stories—from workplace disasters described as "train wrecks with no survivors" to roadside tire changes with elderly parents—we unpack the challenging yet transformative nature of unexpected situations. 

The discussion takes a thoughtful turn as we consider how faith provides an anchor during turbulent times. As one participant notes, "Faith doesn't always take you out of the storm. Faith calms you in the midst of the storm." This perspective allows us to replace reactive emotions with more intentional responses, turning potential meltdowns into moments of growth and service.

With refreshing honesty, we acknowledge the particular difficulty of maintaining patience with those closest to us. Why is it so much harder to control our reactions with family members than with strangers or coworkers? And how do we practice the humility to apologize when we inevitably fall short?

Whether you're facing unexpected challenges or simply want to prepare for the curveballs life will inevitably throw, this episode offers practical wisdom for navigating life's unpredictable journey with grace, humor, and faith. Join us for a conversation that will change how you view life's inevitable disruptions.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Saturday 79 and then Sunday back up into the low 80s.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
We can do that.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Yeah, I meant to check like the real feel for the
past few days.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Oh yeah, I haven't either.
I didn't know, don't know whatthe heat index was Hot.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Yeah, disgusting Hot, sticky.
And yuck, hot, yeah, disgustinghot, sticky.
And yeah, and when I flew backlast was it last last week.
Yeah, last sunday, I swear likethe air quality is like still
so bad yeah, oh here, oh yeahlike compared to florida, like I

(00:41):
didn't really realize it.
Sometimes I would notice it,but then I really noticed it
after I, you know, got back fromvacation.
I'm like, oh man, what?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
it was like 98 in Gettysburg on Friday and it was
just as humid oh, was you overthere?
Yeah, well, lucky you yeah,although didn't get really to do
much hiking why not, it's justtoo hot, just can't be out there
very long.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Can't hang.
No, not now.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Not anymore, me neither.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Give me a cooling towel around my neck.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
I can't take the cold anymore, which it never used to
bother me, and I can't take theheat anymore.
So don't get old, nick, I'mgetting there.
Oh yeah, oh, believe me, I wishI was your age again and know
what I know now.
I'd have a completely differentlife, a completely better life.

(01:43):
I'd have a completely differentlife, a completely better life.
Well, yeah, yeah, okay, do youwant?

Speaker 2 (01:52):
to reveal what you're doing at 45 no no, I wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
I wouldn't.
I would spend more time withthe family instead of at the bar
so yeah, that's what I meantyeah, yeah, yeah, she didn't
listen to this anyway.
So, instead of at the bar yeah,that's what I meant yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
She didn't listen to this anyway, so I could say
anything, but I'm sure someonewould tell her do you know what
your husband said they alwaysfind out, yeah.
Yeah, and you know what she'dsay?
Oh, I believe that.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, she doesn't even have to listen to second
guess it, she just knows.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
And you know what she'd say?
Oh, I, believe that?
Yeah, she doesn't even have tolisten to second guess it.
She just knows yeah, yeah,after what Be 58 years.
Really, that's awesome 59,something like that.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Something like that, like what's one more year.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Well, I know, we were married almost two years before
my son was born and he's 55,yeah, so that would line up 56,
57.
I think it's 57 yeah how'd youmanage that?

Speaker 2 (03:08):
I worked a lot, I mean just like no, seriously, I
did.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
I mean I, I worked, I worked, I worked two jobs
honestly like with mygrandparents.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Um, it would have been 53 years for them this year
yeah if pat putnam passed, but,um, he worked afternoons and
midnights a lot and a lot of thetimes.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
I'm like I wonder if that was like a benefit, you
know or this year would havebeen mom and dad's 61st, and dad
worked afternoons a lot.
Then, when he retired, theywere like, oh, boy what are we
going to do?
Kill each other, that's areal's.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
That's.
That's a real test of marriage.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
That's that's kind of kind of my problem.
My problem now.
I mean, I used to doingsomething, you know not being
home yeah and and it's awful,because I get lazy, you know you
get lazy and say well, you know, okay, I can do that tomorrow.
I don't have to do it today.
And then tomorrow comes and youknow it still doesn't get done

(04:11):
and then you got to just kind ofgrab yourself by the seat of
the pants and drag yourselfoutside.
You got to do this.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yeah, I have a roller time doing that.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Well, especially in this heat.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Yeah, and then I think, well, I'll do it after
the sun goes down.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, and you're too tired?

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Yeah, I'm not going to do it now.
It's almost time to go to bed.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Why would I start?

Speaker 1 (04:36):
something so late.
Yeah, I mowed yesterday with mycooling towel around my neck
but I still have a little bit todo out back and I thought
thought I'll do that tonightwhen I get home from here, for
gets dark.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Okay, everybody run down by Dawn's house.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
See if I can get that mode out back.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
I think people are on to something when they do it.
In the morning I've caught myneighbor doing it Like he's done
by like 10 am, 10 am Anytimehe's doing it.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
I'm like my grass is too thick and too wet.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I can't do it.
You had the small yard, andyeah, that's what I was gonna
say, though, because mine no way, his is like they have.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Well, nick.
You know where I'm at that thebrick house right beside me.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
You've probably walked past it, but it's mainly
pavement is their yard, so it'slike whatever yard they do have
yes yeah, so I can see that.
Yeah, I mean that'd be that wayto go.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
That's very true, very true.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yeah Well, I got two acres to mow, so yeah, different
story then.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, sometimes I envy those people.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
They're done, mowing in five minutes.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
And then you'll hear them at the grocery store oh man
, I got to mow again this week.
But you see them out therewatering and fertilizing and
liming and then griping becausethey got to mow, don't fertilize
it, don't water it.
Let the Lord take care of it.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
So I always look at the forest.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Look at all the trees they grow.
They're green.
What fertilizes them.
God made the leaves todecompose to make fertilizer, so
the trees could eat, you know?

Speaker 3 (06:13):
got to look at it that way.
Yeah, I know, I was atMarshall's the other day and
someone was on the phone with Idon't know if it was his
girlfriend or his wife or who itwas.
He was talking about someonelike his friend maybe, was
saying that they spent like 40,and he wasn't saying it was
outrageous.
But he's like, yeah, you knowso-and-so was telling me that

(06:33):
they're um, thinking about doingsuch and such, but they spent
45 or 48 000 on just landscaping.
Oh my Right, that's a lot ofmoney.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yeah, I got manicured weeds.
Yeah, that's what I've got.
I've got no lawn.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
That's a pretty weed yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yeah, it'll look a whole lot better.
If it's a little shorter, we'lljust cut her off.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
I've got this one section in the back, just a
round circle.
It's lime green, neon green.
It circle lime green, neongreen.
It's like where did that grasscome from?
Just one section.
You have a dog.
I do have a dog.
Did I go potty?
Oh, she goes potty everywhere.
The yard is fenced in and shedoes not stay in one area she

(07:17):
goes everywhere, mine is toowell.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
The topic why'd you say it like that?

Speaker 3 (07:27):
you didn't expect it roger oh nice, the uh, I try
he's still looking at me.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
The unexpected.
He's been dealing with it allday, yeah I'm used to it.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
I like to.
I like to pivot in the middleof something, change everything.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Change it up.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Like I told Pastor Michael today.
I said we've only done this twoor three times.
I said a couple more times I'llbe able to get it right, but I
doubt it.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
It's never like that Never.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Well, yeah, when I was in Gettysburg I wasn't
really looking at my phone andof course, you know we had
something planned for last weekand I was like, well, it's kind
of good because I don't have toworry about it, I can just go on
my trip, come back, everythingwill take care of itself.
And then I get the text.
I think margie read it to meand I'm like, oh okay there we
go well, I gotta think ofsomething I'm like.

(08:22):
Well, why don't we just talkabout the?

Speaker 3 (08:26):
unexpected, and I don't think we've ever really
talked about it either.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yeah, you just have to pivot, you have to think
about what's going on.
You know why did the Lord putme in this position?
He put me in this position tolearn something.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
That's what I was going to say.
That's right, and to give gloryto him.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
There's always a lesson we're always going to
learn something.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
You probably have more problems when you tend to
believe that everything is goingto go according to plan every
single day.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Oh hey.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
When you hang your hat on everything going exactly
as you planned it.
You know what happens to me.
It's usually when you'refrustrated.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Right, you know what happens to me Usually when
you're frustrated, right.
My hat falls off the rack, yeah, and then you've got to pick it
up again.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Recently, my daughter just took a new job on at
hospice and she got hired infull time at the Truman House in
Philly.
Well, like the day before shewas supposed to start, they
called her and said hey, we'regoing to have to move you to the
Wooster House if you want theposition, and now it's only part
time.
Oh man, Very disappointed, Veryupset, and I said, Caitlin

(09:34):
everything happens for a reason.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
I was gonna say she may go up there.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
You know, she knows that, and I'm like Caitlin,
everything happens for a reason.
So she's in her orientation atWooster and she's like well, it
is quite a drive though, mom.
You know I don't know whatit'll be like come winter time,
but she's enjoying it.
But it wasn't a weekend toorientation Nine people got laid
off from the Truman house.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
No, she would have been one of the first to go.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Oh well, yeah, she would have been a new hire, she
would have been the first.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
They probably, they probably did her a favor by
doing that, because theyprobably knew we're going to lay
off, right.
Why are we hiring a new one,right?

Speaker 4 (10:04):
But they wanted to hire her.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Right, yes.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
If they didn't want to hire her, they wouldn't have
offered her that position.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So she's out at Worcester justpart-time right now, so she's
still working locally too.
But I'm like see everythinghappens for a reason.
It'll all work out.
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, that's a perfect example right there.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, but sometimes some of that stuff we don't want
it to.
We want it now, we don't wantit to work out, you know in time
.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Right.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
And it gets frustrating.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Well, and unfortunately, we all have the
pressures of life Like you had aplan, you had a financial plan.
You know, again you hang yourhat on all these things and then
something like that happens.
You're like, wow, now I have tomake a real adjustment here.
You know, and sometimes it'snot.
What happens isn't fatal.
You know, hardly is everanything fatal to us when
something like that happens, butit can feel that way because

(10:59):
you get immediately can getoverwhelmed by the financial you
know burden of trying to figureout now, what am I going to?
do and just you know.
You want everything to besettled, you want to make a plan
, you want to execute it, andthen you want to sit back and
reap the fruit of it.
Right, you want to kick backand say, okay, I've accomplished
that.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
A lot of times you don't know what the future's
going to hold for you either.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
So a lot of times you end up having to work harder
for something than what youplanned.
That's not fun.
I think we all have to havealmost like a default with our
faith and our prayer that whensomething like that happens,
that we can fall right into thatmode of prayer, mode of
meditation and patience.

(11:46):
Because if you don't have thata lot of times, yeah, then you
are jumping off the cliff andyou know calling all your
girlfriends and you know yes.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
I don't have any girlfriends.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
No no.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Or do I, and we've got to have that gratitude as
well, even though things aren'tgoing the way that we want them
to.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
We have to be, you have to stop and think.
You're still breathing, you'restill upright, you're not sick,
you're not ailing.
You do have enough to eat.
You can stay cool.
You wonder how you're going topay that bill, but you can still
you know, and then, when itcomes time, he provides for you

(12:32):
you know, sure, as long as youas long as you believe right,
yeah, as long as we believe andstay faithful and wait

Speaker 2 (12:38):
faithful to us and wait yeah yeah, that's, that's
the worst part, that's the worstwaiting, waiting well, and I
and I think it's a good lessonof always making sure that
you're in the right company.
You know, because whensomething like that happens to
you.
You know it's important thatyou have good friendship, good
support, good fellowship, allthose things to where you know
you do have other people to fallback on.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
You know, to help you out.
Not that you're ever lookingfor handouts or anything like
that, but the right people willstep it in your life when
something happens to you, right,yeah?
And that's always a plus too.
So you know, it's kind of likeyou know mind your P's and Q's
with how you treat people.
You know, perhaps there's beensomebody in a similar situation
in your life and maybe you hadthe opportunity to help them.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
And you didn't maybe you had the opportunity to help
them and you didn't.
You know and you know.
Now it's your turn.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, you know, and you know you may get the same
treatment.
So they say karma.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, yeah, so it's always around yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
So you know you always just want to be uh, when
you deal with somebody that'sgoing through something like
that you deal with somebodythat's going through something
like that, you want to bedealing with it with a christian
attitude and, yeah, be willingto help somebody.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Um, not only if it's ever you, oh yeah, because you
know sure enough it will be.
Yeah, definitely, it definitelywill be.
So it's you know.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
You just never know um yeah, we can't control
everything, you know even thoughwe want to right because, like,
like you know, nick said, youknow you have your financial
plans in order, you haveeverything all thought out and
through, but then somethingthrows you a curveball and I
mean, yeah, you can't, you can'tcontrol it, right and we need

(14:19):
to get our mindset in thatgratitude rather than worry yeah
yeah, you know, because when Iwas young it was always worry,
worry, worry.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
You know, I don't worry anymore.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah, no no, the older I get.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, what will be will will be, you know it, just
that's yeah I mean kind of theattitude I try to have now.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
I mean I can't control everything.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, god is in control of everything.
There's not much you can doabout it.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Right.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
People have problems with that.
Again, like Roger said, youwant it now, you want to do what
you want to do and you thinkyou've executed perfectly and
you've timed it out in yourtiming how it's going to go, and
then it doesn't.
And uh again, if you don't havethat prayer to fall back on,
and trust in god and his timing.

(15:13):
Yeah, you can get prettyfrustrated you know, it's when
people can lose their temper,make bad decisions, lash out at
other people you know um.
You can develop a lot of badtraits when you don't have that
center with Christ you know you.
Just because all those becausethat's the thing about having a
relationship with Christ is alot of times you can replace a

(15:36):
lot of your human emotion thatyou would instantly react on and
you get to replace those bymore Christ-like behaviors
emotions, all those things, towhere it's like, when something
like that happens, it's not evenreally like you're going into

(15:57):
prayer.
You think of Christ, you thinkof God.
You think of okay, how am Isupposed to handle this?
Not lash out and then apologizeto everybody and say okay now
you know how do we figure it out.
You can.
You can be ahead of the game.
You know you can control youremotions.
You can control um, takingsomething that's bad happened to

(16:20):
you off of that you go and makeanother bad decision because
that's using it as an excuse orsomething yeah, or just your
emotions get the better of youso then you're not thinking
clearly yeah so then you'll goand make another mistake that
just makes the situation evenworse and it's like a snowball,
snowball, just snowballing.
Yeah, a lot of us do that yeah,we just our emotions get the

(16:43):
best of us.
We can snowball and you know,pretty soon you've instead of
having one problem that needsfixing, you've got twice as many
.
Yeah, it's just, yeah, so it canwork out that way very quickly.
So you know that's because weall talk about this.
You know you go on vacation andyou come back to work and if
you're in a position where youknow somebody has to cover for

(17:05):
you, it's a nightmare.
And I just went away for twodays Friday and Monday and my
desk was a complete disaster andthat shows me like when I see
that, I think, okay, that's thatperson's frame of mind.
They weren't organized, theyweren't thinking clearly,
because my desk is just acomplete mess and I'm thinking

(17:26):
so that's how their mind'sworking, because you can see it.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, and then things like they'll take like one
order and they'll write a noteon that order, but the note is
for a different order.
So it's so disorganized and sospastic that it's just like your
emotions obviously.

(17:51):
It's like okay, you can seethat the person is overwhelmed,
the situation is getting thebest of them and they're
scrambling, so instead offinding like the actual order,
and then saying okay, I need tomake a note on this order, we're
doing this.
They just write it on anythingin front of them and, before you
know it, they got this whole.
They don't even know whatthey're looking at.
You know they just have a totalmess, and at that point you

(18:14):
can't even help yourself.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
And so sometimes that's how I think like okay, so
now you can see that in people.
But on my end of it you know, Idon't want to say I expect it,
but I kind of do I didn't expectquite the mess I got I'm like,
thank goodness, you knew therewas going to be one there,
didn't you?

Speaker 3 (18:33):
But you know, nick, but you telling me that you know
a few weeks ago, I'm like youknow what, nick's right?
I am just going to come back,knowing that there is going to
be a mess, because if not, it'slike I already know how it goes.
Every single time I'm not goingto get my.
You know, I'm not going to getmy hopes up for anything
different.
I'm, and it helped me a littlebit by having that attitude.

(18:57):
So I guess like it's not wrongin thinking that way.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
No, because I go in and the production manager comes
in and of course the kid thatwas filling in for me comes in,
and they're just already likestressing stressing, stressing
just throwing words back andforth and I'm like we're not
going to do this.
This is not what we're going todo.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Nothing's going to get accomplished.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
No, I'm like save that for later.
We'll talk about what happenedlater so this was tuesday.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Is that this is tuesday and is that the day I
texted you guys?
Or was that monday?

Speaker 2 (19:29):
you text me monday okay yeah, so it was almost, it
was fortuitous yeah we'retalking about it.
I'm just like, yeah, we're not.
We'll worry about who did whatand who who made mistakes,
whatever, I really don't care.
Let's just focus on what weneed to do to get the train back
on the tracks yeah because Itold everybody I said I said

(19:49):
this was just like a total trainwreck with no survivors you
know, we just gotta, you know,start fresh, start all over,
yeah build a new train find arescue.
At this point, you know, andjust it's like, okay, let's just
take this one step at a time,let's stay calm, let's just stay
focused, so let's get ourselvesout of this mess, and that's

(20:09):
what.
And it took me two days untilthe end of today.
It took me to get back to wherewe're supposed to be, yeah.
But I didn't get upset, Ididn't get mad.
I mean I am having thoseemotions, I am upset, I am
disappointed.
I am frustrated, but I counterthat with like okay, how am I

(20:32):
going to handle?

Speaker 4 (20:33):
those emotions yes, you have them.
Right, you have to repair thedamage.
Right, so there's no sense ingetting mad, because all that's
going to do is just make, make,make the problem bigger than
what it really is right, yeah,because you're able to move
forward and find the solutionswhere.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yeah, yeah yeah, you can tell they just lost him.
Like I give up, just wait tillnick gets back figure it out.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
You know, yeah, all right yeah, at least you know
that they need you that'sanother.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
That's another great point.
Like, well, if everything wasperfect when I come back, that
wouldn't feel so good.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Well, my coworker texted me Friday Nothing really
was just asking me how it wasgoing.
And I'm like, oh, it's a goodvacation or something.
And she's like, oh, you know,we, we're gonna be glad you're
coming back with like a emoji.
And I'm like, oh boy, look.
So it's like she texted me tosee how it was going.

(21:30):
But then I had that in the backof my mind right, but at least
they're like oh, we're just sohappy to have you back, because
I'm like, yeah, you realize thatI all the things that I do
undercover.
Basically I'm not just sittingat a desk.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
You're not just a pretty face.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
No, the kid texts me on Monday, I'm driving home and
he's like you might want tobring a pack of cigarettes.
Because I'm like, oh my God,what did you guys do?

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Well, at least he didn't say a fifth of wine too,
yeah, but kidding me.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
So you know.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
But yeah, if.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
I lose control, you know, and that's a part of
leadership, you know, anddealing with the unexpected
things like that.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
If you lose control.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Everybody else does.
So no matter what you'refeeling, you have to be able to
separate yourself from it.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Everybody stay calm.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, right, and sometimes we don't.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
And sometimes that's hard to do.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
We don't, yeah, because you know, you've got.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
You get somebody poking the bear.
You know, and you can only pokethe bear so many times.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, and I could try to be calm as much as I could,
but my emotions get the best ofme and then you can hear it out
of my voice.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Like me too.
The tremble or the shakiness,like oh well, mine gets loud and
I've got a loud voice anyway.
So then it really seems likeI'm yelling at you.
But you're just and I'm not,I'm just in a hyper that's what
it's gonna say your activatedstate my dad and I had a blowout
on the way to columbus on oh no, saturday.
We were almost to new al and Isaid, dad, your pressure light
just came on for your tire.
And he's like, hmm, that's odd.
You feel any change in thesteering?
I'm like no, you know nothing,no change at all, going down.

(23:12):
But so here we are, traveling70, 75.
And then, all of a sudden, I'mlike we've just had a blowout,
you know.
So we got over onto one ofthose emergency um where the
state highway patrol sit and theemergency vehicles use.
Yeah, I mean, it just literallylooked like the tire was dry,
rotted.
And dad bought this truck at anauction in 2013.

(23:35):
It's only got 40 000 miles onit, but it's got the original
tires on it.
So here we are, we've got thisblowout.
Dad has no tools in the truckbecause he had just moved them
over to the car, because he wasgoing to the farm the next day
and was going to take the car.
So we have no tools.
No, nothing with us.
We get the jack out.
Now dad's 83, getting somedementia, getting forgetful.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Well, and those jacks alone are awful, oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
They're terrible, they're pretty much worthless.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Anytime I had like to deliver mail.
I just had an actual jackbecause those things, because I
would have to do it sometimesand those things were terrible,
yeah Well dad's under the truckto get down the spare, yeah, and
he's like, oh, I can't tell ifthis is turning or not.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Well, I'm just thinking he's knowing what he's
doing and so I'm not fussing.
You know, he's not gonna let medo anything anyway, so I'm just
patiently waiting and he'sunder there fussing.
I'm like Dad, what's wrong?
And he's like well, I don't, Idon't think this thing's a
moving.
So I like I googled you knowhow you get this tire down?
Yeah, so there's that little,that little area on the back

(24:38):
that opens up, that the yeah,that you stick that through that
guide hole.
I'm like, oh, dad, get out fromunder there, you don't even
need under there.
So I guided the jack, or notthe jack, but the extensions
that go on the crowbar, so gotthe tire down.
Well then, he can't figure outhow to get.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
Well, that was a blessing in itself, because 99%
of those are so rusted up thatthey don't move.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Oh yeah, so you know that was a blessing, but now we
can't get the hubcap off.
We got the tire out, but now wecan't get the hubcap off.
No tools.
So I Google how do you get thishubcap off?
You need a straight screwdriver.
Do we have a straightscrewdriver with us?

Speaker 4 (25:18):
No, no Do you have a pocket knife.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
No, we didn't.
You have a rope, a string and arope, so my post office key was
the thickest key on my ring, soI'm sitting on the asphalt with
my key trying to pry this off.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
What day was this?

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Saturday.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
It was hot, too.
It was hot.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Oh, just sweating, Just sweat dripping.
Can't get it, can't get it.
Dad's like.
So now dad's looking, he's gotsome bungee cords.
He gives me a bungee cord.
I stick the hook of the bungeecord up in there I'm sitting on
the asphalt, my knees are upabout that time.
Here comes these two new Albanypolice officers.
They're going to pull in,they're going to help, but I'm

(25:59):
sitting there with that and I'mjust a-pryin' and a-pryin'.
It finally pops off and goesflying, as those Albany police
officers.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
I was going to say it's a good thing that Benji
didn't, but Dad and I arearguing with each other what's
the hubcap, what's not thehubcap?

Speaker 1 (26:10):
What's the rim?
How do you get the tire down?
I'm like Dad.
So here come these30-something-year-old like dad.
Let them do this for us so wecan get back on the road.
You know?
Nope, you boys don't need toget your hands dirty, are you
kidding?
No, I'm not kidding.
They patiently stood there andwaited on my dad to change that

(26:32):
tire.
The one guy he carried thespare over and put it on for him
.
But, and he's like, hey, who'sdriving?
I'm like, so dad's like, youknow, she's got a lead foot.
I'm like dad, don't tell themthat they're gonna follow us
down the road and I'm gonna geta ticket.
Don't be telling them that.
Yeah, yeah, I said one ticketevery 20 years.

(26:53):
The guy's like, oh, that's notbad, not bad, not too bad.
Yeah, not too bad.
Oh, what a mess it was, butimprovise oh yeah yep and pray.
And I was praying because I wasgetting hyper with my dad and I
was raising my voice right, yeahjust pray, yeah yourself down
and pray, yep it's not yeah thattime, yeah, so it's nobody's

(27:14):
fault no you know let's justyeah, but to make a small shift
here.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
why is it?
Why is it so hard to not getemotional with your significant
other, like that's the easiestthing to do, like if it's for me
, if it's like coworkers?
If it's, you know, a stranger.
If it's like, I can be like ascalm.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
You can give grace and yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
But sometimes like when it's your wife or your
husband people that you'reclosest to

Speaker 3 (27:48):
hurt it's easy to let them see all of the ugly,
because you know all the uglythere regardless and I feel bad
about that.
Oh yeah, I was like.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
I know like I don't ever lose my temper and yet I
like kind of yelled at herbecause we were frustrated about
something unexpected.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
I had to apologize to dad.
I said, dad, I am so sorry forraising my voice Now, this is
the next day.
This isn't that day.
This is the next day.
I'm like, dad, I really need toapologize to you for raising my
voice.
And he said I just consider thesource.
I'm like thanks, dad.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
But it's good that you apologize, because I have
loved ones no apology.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
You can't eat that, you can't squeeze it in.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
I know my grandma's listening.
It's not her.
Okay, so I was on the sameairplane as someone who used to
live with her.
I used to live with him.
You know where I'm getting atmy DAD, but he's always the
hardest on me, always.

(28:53):
And you know we're goingthrough airplanes are so.
They're just so stressfulanyway, and they're airports.
Yes, sorry, airports, and so youknow, know, and before we had
even you know, I'm two weeksbefore and I'm just looking at,
okay, well, a pack and play isconsidered an essential item.
So it's not.
You don't have to do a personalcheck bag or a personal, it's

(29:17):
just a.
It's an essential item, that'ssomething that's an extra yes,
exactly, and it's free.
But they were like, okay, I hadthat, I had the diaper bag, I
had all these questions that I'mjust googling and researching
weeks beforehand.
Okay, well, for formula,because we're like weaning
cooper off of the formula.
They said you can, you can gowith it, just put it in his
diaper bag, which is also anessential item.

(29:37):
Well then, we get stuck, youknow, and that it gets checked
and I'm like, ok, and he didn't.
I mean, we had plenty of time,but I didn't ask him to hold.
You know, he didn't have towait on us.
I'm a big girl like me, chaseand Cooper with me, whatever,
they decided to wait, and thenwe catch back, I don't know, up

(29:58):
to him, because they were about15 yards in front of us, about
15 yards in front of us, and, um, you know, the airplane's like
asking us, like, oh, do you wantthe diaper?

Speaker 2 (30:08):
bag.
Do you need it?

Speaker 3 (30:08):
for the plane, or do you want us to put it.
I'm like, oh, you couldactually take it, because cooper
had a little bag himself, likea little backpack.
But I'm like, oh, hold on a sec, because cindy was.
You know, cindy had it like letme grab that formula.
And I saw my dad like look ather.
It was one other time he likelooked at her, but it was within
two minutes and then he did thesame look again and I finally
was like what he's like?

(30:30):
And he's like, all right, I'mgonna make sure you guys are
sitting at the you know the mostfar end as you can, like you're
gonna go here, you're gonna gothere.
But you know he was proceedingto tell shy, like how good that
we did on the plane and this andthat.
And they were saying, becauseyou know how there's family
blow-ups and like that was thefirst blow-up of the week and

(30:52):
there wasn't too many, like thatwas very mild, you know.
But there was another bickerbetween two other individuals
and someone's like yeah, youknow, we did have a couple and
they're like, you know, like dadand Sid, and he's like what do
you mean, you know?
And Cindy's like well, theairport, and he's like well, you
know what?
Yeah, you know I was prettyhard on her, but like never

(31:15):
apologizes and he's always beenlike that.
I'm like you will say it toother people, right, and then
that's my way of hearing it, butlike you will never come to me
and tell me like why yeah and I,I don't know, it's probably the
, the guy in him, you know, butdon't be afraid to be vulnerable
men.
Okay, that's all I'm asking.
Yeah, so, but yeah, that was Imean.

(31:39):
Well, and also at the airport,it was, you know.
Another thing I was Googlingwas I didn't have my real ID,
which is fine because if youhave your passport, you're good.
Okay, well, my passport has mymaiden name, which I knew that.
So I'm like okay, well, I'lljust bring my marriage
certificate, because it saidthat should be fine.

(32:05):
Well, no, we go, we even getthrough check-in and then we get
to tsa and they're like well,now you got to go back to
check-in and basically have your, your boarding ticket, say what
you're basically made.
Oh, so I'm gonna be sydneymackie for this week.
Awesome, because it had to saythat going there and going back,
and I'm like so it was just somany unexpected things that I

(32:26):
even tried for, I tried to planand prepare myself for and, heck
, I even had Cooper's birthcertificate with me too, because
you know, if they're two andunder, they can fly for free,
but sometimes they ask fordocumentation.
I had like our whole life storywith us and still we had all
these, but that's what you getin airports, because no, no,

(32:49):
that's what you get, but andyour passport has your picture,
yes, and your maiden, maidenname and married name well, my
passport just has my maiden namecan you get your oh?

Speaker 1 (33:00):
but you're, yeah, you're in your passport but my
boarding flight ticket, whichwas like I, actually has to be
your driver's license name iswhat's when you book your flight
, so it's how it is on yourdriver's license so even a small
discrepancy like that, oh yeah,there's so much bureaucratic

(33:20):
garbage.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
yeah, and, and, like the thing is there's like the
check in point, like the,basically the first step into
the airport to check in.
They, you know that basicallytake your bags.
They didn't say anything aboutit and I almost brought it up
like you know what.
No, it's fine, I'm not going tomake it an issue if it's not an
issue.
And then we get to TSA and I'mlike here we go.
I mean, they were, they werenice about it, but I'm like man,

(33:48):
oh man, because they're likewell, I said well, you know, I,
I looked into this and theybeforehand and I said they said,
as long as I have somethingthat proves right, I've got the
documentation.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
I have the documentation, like.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Well, it depends on the airline, and I don't know,
for I think we're on frontier.
I don't know, for I think wewere on Frontier.
I don't know what their policyis, oh my goodness.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
So yeah, yeah, yeah.
The way I look at it, though,they're just doing their job and
that's you know.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
You can't yeah, and I didn't want.
When I, when I came back, I waslike I was definitely
frustrated, but then I was likethinking, oh, I hope that same
girl is over there when I docome back.
That way I can show her, shedher some light, and she was very
nice, I'm like you know.
Thank you, I know, you werejust doing your job.
It's just frustrating.
It's already so nerve-wrackingwhenever you don't fly a lot,

(34:34):
let alone with a child.
You've got the pack and play.
You've got a stroller.
You've got the diaper bag plusyour two personal items and play
.
You've got a stroller.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
You've got the diaper bag plus your two personal
items, plus the two suitcases.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
I'm like oh my god, and you're on borrowed time?

Speaker 2 (34:48):
yes, exactly, you got .
You got three minutes to getyour gate yeah yeah, yeah so
yeah, there's no, there's noother option yeah, wow sometimes
life is just stressful.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Oh yes, oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
We have to be able to adapt.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Adapt and overcome Improvise adapt, overcome Yep.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Repeat Repeat Right, yes, I just see like the
recyclable thing, like that logoright now.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Or the biohazard.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
One or the biohazard yeah, one or the other, and
hopefully that all thesesituations bring personal and
spiritual growth yeah yeah,because you know, looking back
at it now, I you know we can alllaugh, and you know you can
laugh about your saturdayinstance but it was stressful oh
, as you've got sweat rollingdown into your eyelid, I, I'm
sure Right right and the glassesare on.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah, we all laugh about that when we're watching
Home Alone.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
That's so fun when you're actually doing it.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yes, yeah, I've only flown once though.
Really Twice In a plane Flowntwice, yes, twice, okay, and
have never really had any issues.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
Well, lucky you.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
You know so, but it is nerve wracking oh yeah.
Parking.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Parking.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
That's my stressful situation Like if I go over to
Pittsburgh.
So I book my parking before Iever leave.
I already have it paid for andeverything, but I want to get
over there early because itseems like it takes forever to
find a parking place.
So when I was flying up toboston there a couple weeks ago,

(36:30):
I'm like I'm going earlybecause last time it took me
forever to find a place.
Yeah, this time it seemed likeit took forever.
It took six minutes but itseemed like, yeah, it seemed
like an hour that I was drivingup and down those aisles trying
to find a parking place.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
Z247.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah, and then I get to TSA pre-check.
Because I have pre-check Nice,nice, well, I forgot to put it
on my boarding pass.
And she's like you don't haveTSA pre-check.
And I'm like, yes, I do.
And she's like what's not onyour pass?
And I'm like, oh Okay, so therewas only like a handful of

(37:10):
people in regular TSA anyway.
So, yeah, I just popped overthere and that was not a problem
, but I made sure my TSApre-check was on my boarding
pass on the way back when weflew out of Pittsburgh with the
instances I was talking about.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Um, there's a tunnel that goes over the, so that was
open, like I had never beenthere.
But my um, you know, parentshad flown out of there before
and they're like, oh, this isn'tnormally open, like we can
actually do this, and it was.
I mean it was.
It wasn't busy at all on thatside.
So, yeah, that was nice, yeahthat side your gate was on.
Well, that was the side I hadto walk Clear.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Back and forth to.
Back to Denison, back to yourexpel.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Were you praying?

Speaker 3 (37:50):
during all of that.
Yeah, I was trying Right.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
What's really stressful is that you know
you're out of the country andyou go and you're sitting there
this is where your plane issupposed to be and it's like
five minutes before you'resupposed to load and there's no
plane there.
Oh well, sorry, your plane'sbroke down.
You're not going to leave,we're going to put you over in
this other spot.
So they put us over in thisother spot.

(38:15):
There's no plane for that spot.
You're going to stay hereovernight.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Oh boy, I've not had anything happen like that.
I've had a couple 20-minutedelays or something.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
Well see, that's what we thought.
We thought, well, it's justgoing to be a delay.
So we're sitting there and it'slike an hour and a half two
hours.
This is in Germany Wait and waitand wait.
And the worst thing about itwas my son lived like an hour
and a half away, so as soon aswe went through the gates he
left, you know.

(38:47):
So you know we really it waskind of dumb to go, you know,
call him, come back, pick us up,drive another hour and a half,
you know, and then drive an hourand a half home.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Yeah, it was, but it was nice, it was interesting.
They put us up in a hotel andthey fed us oh nice and they
says you know, be be back hereat seven o'clock in the morning
to get on, get the bus to goback to the airport.
But it was different.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
It was unexpected.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
Yeah, but I mean it was a learning experience.
You know, you learn how otherpeople run things and it's

(39:48):
completely different than youknow the way we do things here
in the United States.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
But it was interesting, it was nice, I mean
, the people were nice, you know.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Well, and sometimes the unexpected is what gives
somebody the opportunity to be,charitable to be you know to do
something for you, you know, topractice those Christian
principles.
Right, we're all trying touphold you know, yeah, you know,

(40:19):
being part of the plan, it'slike well, yeah, you have to be
the.
I don't know how I want to sayit, but you know you're on the
sharp end of the stick, I guess,while the other person gets to
have the blessing.
Yeah, you know or gets to youknow, exercise that.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
But yeah, that whole ordeal, though, was a blessing,
because they gave us, like Iforget what it was, I mean how a
blessing because they gave us,like uh, I forget what it was I
mean how many free flying miles,you know, and phone cards and
you know, so we could call home,which we were supposed to be
home like the next day, becausethe dogs were in the kennel, you
know, somebody was taking careof the house, I mean it was, you
know, but we get, I mean goteverything you know, but we got,

(41:03):
I mean got everything you knowhandled.
Plus, I got a free flight towhere did I go?
To Either Texas or WashingtonState, I forget which one Visit
my son.
And then Linda she had the samedeal, I think she went to
Washington.
But you know, it was a blessingin disguise.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Is it Michael that says don't steal my blessing.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
So you have to look at it that way sometimes.
Sometimes, yeah, you're inthose situations and that's
going to be somebody else'sblessing, that you're in it,
right, right to be taken care of.
But, yeah, sometimes you don'tsee that.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
You know it's hard to see that right, but to consider
that he stole that from rayporter, though, and he said that
before, but yeah, no, don't yourob me of my blessing, now.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, that's right yeah,actually was it a flat tire that

(42:06):
he was telling him that, for Ifeel like it might have been.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
I think you're right.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Yeah, I think that is the story that he's told let us
know, michael, right, if you'relistening, let us know in the
comments.
We're going to test and see ifhe's listening.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
He comes flying in the room.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
This is only a test.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Comes sliding in like Kramer yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
He's got a birthday party tonight, so he's kind of
tied down.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
Yeah, yeah, I saw that Because he had to leave
early.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Yes, as all of these situations are tests, I've got
to learn better self-control.
That is my test, still workingon my self-control and my tone.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
It's so hard to look at it that way though.
Yeah, it is when you're living,especially when you're living
in the the world, the pace ofthe everyday world, like it's so
hard during that moment to lookat it that way you know,
everybody says live in themoment, yeah, right, they're
trying to do but.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
I don't want to oh, you're right.
A lot of times like you gottabe able to remove yourself yes,
from the situation.
Yes in order to look above andsay okay, you know, how should I
really handle this?
Instead of just being in themoment and, you know, just
making a complete mess ofeverything.
Yeah, yeah, but it's hard.
Oh yeah, yeah, but I'd saythat's a struggle for most

(43:35):
people, I think.
I think self-control is, youknow, it's not easy.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Well, no, and when you've been so independent and
you're able to do everything onyour own, all of your life.
And you know, now Dad's 83,soon to be 84 in September and,
like I said, his mind's gettinga little.
But it's like Dad, just let mehelp you.
No, you know, no, you know.
And so he struggled, andstruggled, and struggled, and
I'm getting more frustratedbecause he won't let me help.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
They don't want to lose their independence.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Exactly yes.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
And I understand that .

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Yeah, and especially he's like you're my daughter.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
I don't want that.
I don't want that you taught mehow to change a tire, Dad Right
that you taught me how tochange a tire.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
Dad, let me help, let me help you.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
Yes, yes yep, this is why you showed me how to do
this, exactly, exactly, yeah andit's like the.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
I think you're saying people lack the self-control.
Like yeah, they do.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Like no wonder we have so many addiction problems
you know, like, like, if youlook at it that way like.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
I think we all struggle with self-control, like
in all circumstances, whetherthat's just keeping your mouth
shut or even just meditating onsomething before acting out
Right.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
Engage brain before mouth.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yes, I only found one really good scripture that I
was looking for other ones.
This is the only one I thoughtreally fit the bill.
It's Romans 12.12.
Be joyful in hope, patient inaffliction, faithful in prayer,
share with God's people who arein need and practice hospitality

(45:19):
.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
That's a good one.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Yeah, and I had the Romans 8.28 where you know, God
just turns everything for ourgood you know yeah, so I had
that one.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Well, I had another twist.
It was basically Isaiah 60.22.
The smallest family will becomea thousand people and the
tiniest group will become amighty nation.
At the right time, I, the Lord,will make it happen.
So it's like, even if you'retrying all the things and plans
to make sure everything lines upon your way, or you know, he's

(45:54):
still going to make it happen.
If that's what he wants, doneyou know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
It's not your way, it's God's way.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Yep, well, you know and I was just scrolling through
Facebook the other night, andso just a funny thing Just faith
doesn't always take you out ofthe problem.
Faith takes you through theproblem.
Yes, faith doesn't always takeaway the pain.
Faith gives you the ability tohandle the pain, gives you the
ability to handle the pain.

(46:20):
Faith doesn't always take youout of the storm.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Faith calms you in the midst of the storm.
Yes, yeah, so you're stillgoing through the storm, right?

Speaker 2 (46:26):
yeah, but it's a calm but right, you're calm in the
storm yeah, yeah we're more calm, yeah well, and you're like
you're talking about the numbers.
You know it doesn't matter.
You know money is veryimportant to a lot of people.
You know you think if you canbuild up wealth and build up all
these other things and you knowforestall garage and yeah all

(46:50):
these other things, and then youknow it doesn't matter.
I mean you can be stricken downwith cancer, just yep, like
everybody else I mean all thoseputting your faith in all of
those things you know, if that'syour, I suppose a lot of people
lean on things like that astheir comfort, as their security
.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
It's like, oh well, money can buy everything.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
You know, that's how they live.
Their life is by buildingthings up and it's just like it
doesn't matter, it's going toget you just the same as
everybody else.
You're going to have thosechallenges.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
You know you can't hide behind wealth, or you know
status or anything like that.
You know, and that doesn't meanyou know you're not a good
person, but it's just at the endof the day, you just have to be
careful where you're puttingyour faith.
Yeah, Because when it comestime to need patience and

(47:44):
humility and self-control andall those things, your pretty
car is not really going to helpyou much.
You'll lose sight of your prizedpossessions really quick.
When something like that'shappened, all you're going to

(48:06):
have to lean on is your faith.
That that's it.
So yeah, you got to keep thatin mind too, um I had this you
know, for us 80s kids this hasbeen a tough, tough couple weeks
.
We lost hulk hogan.
That one hurt yeah and then, uh, I don't know if you know who r
Sandberg?

Speaker 3 (48:16):
was.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
You know we all loved him as a kid baseball player
for the Chicago Cubs.
It's like what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (48:26):
I saw something say bubble wrap Willie Nelson, yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Yeah Well, yeah, somebody, please go bubble wrap
Willie Nelson right now atWillie Nelson right now.
But talking about Hulk Hogan, Isaid you know if I've got four
columns pedestals to mychildhood.
He's like one of them yeah.
One of those kicks it out fromunder you and you know, and then
you know Ryan Sandberg, and so,yeah, because you start to

(48:54):
think you know Ryan Sandberg was65, hulk Hogan was 71, and I'm
45, and I'm thinking, okay, Imight have 20 years left, ah,
you got more than that.
I'm just saying you might.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
Yeah, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
You can look at it and go, I might have 20, 25
years left.
And I remember when I was in my20s.
I'm thinking it seems like along time ago, but ago, but it
really wasn't.
And you think, wow, like a lotof time is already gone.
Yeah, you know, and the next 25years.
If I don't, if I don'tappreciate it, if I, if I don't,

(49:28):
um live in the moment.
Yeah, start smashing coffeemachines with baseball bats.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (49:38):
I'm saying but uh, you just, I don't know it gives
you a perspective yeah that youknow your life is goes very
quickly, and then everybodytells you you know, the older
you get, the faster it goes amento that, uh-huh you know, and
so it's like you, don't you justrealize?

(49:59):
You don't want to waste anytime on foolish things.
Yeah, and sometimes having abad temper, things like that.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Is foolish, it's foolish, yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
And you just realize that you know to have patience
and humility is just moreimportant than anything else
you're chasing after.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Yeah, especially like all the people that sit and
dwell and like, oh, woe is me,like think of all that time that
they're putting into, and likeall that energy they're putting
in, just to be miserable rightand, like you said, I have to
add forgiveness to that,patience and humility as well.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that as well, yeah it's just,
yeah, it just really does giveyou a perspective that you know.
It's like I was just.
I was just 10 years old, just10 years 20 years you know now
Hulk Hogan's dead, it's like howis this possible?
Right, you know, how is thispossible.
And then it was like RyanSandberg.

(51:05):
You hear just about how greatof a guy he was and how he
approached the game and howsteady he was and he and they
said he never said much, he wasalways calm, he was always like
the voice of reason.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
You know, the guy that had a lot of self-control,
that's my dad.
My dad is very calm.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
You know he played the game with that, with that
level of yeah, you knowself-control and um, just no
matter what happens, he kept uscool and played the game the
same way all the time and youappreciate that, um, and then
you, like I said, it's so sadthat you know he got cancer and

(51:41):
within a couple years you knowhe's gone and again it just goes
back to you know it's going totouch, something's going to
touch all of us at some point,you know, and if we can look
back on ourselves the way, maybethat he could you know, then I
think that says a lot more thanwell.
Yeah, he was a famous baseballplayer so he could afford, you

(52:02):
know, cars and go out to fancyrestaurants and have a big house
and all those things.
All those things are going tobe meaningless.
Nobody's going to rememberthose things, but the way he
played the game and the way heconducted himself is what
everybody's going to rememberfor all time.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
So I think, just looking at our lives, you know
we can't get caught up in tryingto.
You know waiting on the next,you know remodel, or the next
nice car that we want, or youknow whatever it is in your life
that you chase.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
You know it's not going to do you much good in the
end if you don't, if you don'thave that relationship with
christ and and what did I hearone time?
If god has you in the waiting,do what a waiter does serve yeah
, yeah yeah, if we're in thewaiting, well, and I think
that's another thing about youknow, being in the unexpected is
when those situation arise.
You should be thinking, okay,how can I serve in this
situation?
Yeah, you know, being in theunexpected is when those

(53:01):
situations arise.
You should be thinking okay howcan I serve in this situation?
You know, because I thinkthat's what again going back to
having that default mode ofsaying okay, I know, I'm in this
situation, I don't like it.
Yep, it's uncomfortable.
You know, I'd rather go homeright now, go back to bed, but I
can't.
So, rather than be upset andyou, you know, get everybody

(53:21):
else upset around me, how can Ibe a leader?
How can I?
Yeah, you know, fix thesituation.
How can I be the example?
You know all those things.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
So, yeah, I think that's perfect yeah, I was just
going to add, like with thecomparing, you know, and looking
for the next best thing, like Ithink that's really important
to you know, realize andunderstand, especially with
today's society.
Like you know, on social mediaor you could even be, I don't

(53:54):
know, just you could even justbe scrolling, like, oh, you know
, those oddly satisfying videos,you know, and or those ASMR
things that just sound nice andrelaxing.
But then someone had, like Ithink they were doing a relaxing
cleaning of a shower orsomething.
I'm like, oh OK, this is nice.
But then all of a sudden I'mcomparing, like what her shower

(54:14):
looks like versus what mine is,not even like the cleanliness,
just like the aesthetics, youknow, and I'm like oh my gosh
like here.
I thought I was doing myself afavor, you know, giving myself a
little treat to watch thisvideo.
And then here comes thiscomparison.
You know what I'm saying likeit's got three shower heads yeah
, right yeah, like darn it, mineonly has one.

(54:36):
But yeah, it's just something,because you know a lot of people
say, oh well, yeah.
So you know, social media, isthat that one.
That's comparison and stuff but,there's little things that just
creep into you and like, likethat video I'm just watching.
Then I'm like wait a minute,why am I feeling this way?
I should not be feeling thisway right now.
So I don't know yeah, wellagain, it's human nature to to

(55:01):
want the next best thing, nextbest thing, keeping up with the
joneses, yeah, yeah it's hard toever be satisfied.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
But you know and there is some positives to you
know a lot of people say youshould never be satisfied, you
should always want to go to thenext level.
But I think you gotta kind ofmeasure that and like you never
know.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Like okay, nick, you know my neighbor a catty corner
from me, so like, next timeyou're walking near my house,
just notice they're.
They've been putting a lot ofwork into their house, but like
what?
A lot of people don't knowbecause they, you know, told us
that they took out a loan.
So basically they're payingtheir mortgage plus more to get

(55:41):
it done.
So it's like they're probablyobviously financially hurting
more than us right now becausethey're trying to get that done.
You know, like a lot of peoplejust look at it as oh they're,
they must be bringing in the bigbucks, yeah yeah, no actually,
they're probably just a littlebit Right.
Exactly yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
They're going out on a limb to.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Because they can't be patient.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
Yeah, exactly.
Wait till they have it.
Wait till they have it.
Exactly, they have a little bitmore money.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
They're just willing to.
Yeah, go for it everything likeyou said you can look at
somebody else's life, go, wow,that must.
That must be nice.
Yeah, sometimes I have.
It's a bad habit sometimes whenI'm driving, like in the

(56:27):
neighborhood, and I'll belooking at houses and sometimes
I'll think I'll bet you they'rejust in their house just
relaxing with their feet upwatching tv and everything.
Yeah, and I gotta go nice andquiet you Nice and quiet, you
know, and they probably haven'thad any drama today.
I'm thinking like that'sprobably not the case at all.
Sometimes I'll think that, likeI'll think must be nice, you
know, because I'll just see likejust a little light in their

(56:49):
window.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
You'll just see the TV on.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
But in all reality that TV's been playing like
non-stop for three years andthat's their electric bill going
up but you're just like, oh,they've just got it kicked back.
They're watching this tv show.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
You know to come home every night just you know, but
yeah, it's like, don't do that.
No, it's like that's notreality everybody's.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Most people are, you know, yeah, in the same boat and
everybody has issues and, youknow, got things they have to do
and take care of.
Yeah, everybody got called intowork early or has to go and
stay late or planned on notworking tomorrow and got called
in.
There's always something, yeah,with the unexpected.

(57:30):
I guess if you're living well,I suppose there's something
always unexpected, because ifthere's not, I guess you really
aren't going anywhere.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Right.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
You know if you're sitting on the curb every day?
I guess no, you probably don'texplain that that much.
You know, yeah, unexpectedhappening Because you're not
moving.
You're not, you know.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
So maybe there's something positive in the fact
that, yeah, if you're moving inlife, if you're, you know,
trying to do what you need to do, yep.
You know, you got to learn tohit that curveball.
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
That unexpected.
He's taking us to the nextlevel.
He's trying to teach ussomething, whatever it is
whatever it might be.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
Yep, stretching you thin, yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Can't expect a fastball in the middle of the
plate.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
Yeah, every time For the third pitch, you know, yeah,
it's like yeah, you got tolearn to hit the slider, the
curveball.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Now they got so many pitches Mm-hmm.
You know, I don't know how howthey do it really I know.
But uh, yeah, well, that's,that's kind of a great metaphor
for life yeah, you want to goaround the bases.
You gotta learn the pitches.
Yeah, you do, you got you know.
You gotta be prepared for allkinds of things and learn when
they're gonna throw the pitches.
Yeah, yeah I mean, I would justlike to get walked once in a

(58:54):
while, just you know.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Yeah, I'd like to hit a home run for just one time.
Just walk me, intentional, walkme once in a while you can even
hit me with the ball, and thenI can walk.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Not in the hip or anything.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Maybe the helmet, that would be nice, not too hard
, or just one of the ones whereit just kind of nicks the sleeve
.
Yeah where they're like didthat actually hit him, gotcha?

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Take your base.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
I've been hit with the ball, but you still got to
go in the next time.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
Yeah, so you know A sore arm, it's not that easy,
yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
You know it's a free walk for a moment.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
Yeah, yeah, you're great for a little while you
know, but you still may only getto first base.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
You know, because you're depending on your next
player.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Yeah, and that's all the further you'll get yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
Yeah, and then you get kicked off and you've got to
start all over again.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
You got caught napping and got tagged out at
first.

Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
Yep and you got to start all over.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
You got caught in a rundown Yep, you were almost
there.
You were almost there.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
Yeah, I never was real fast, that's why I didn't,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Yeah, he's looking around in the stand.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
Yeah, watching little birds.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
Blowing his bubble gum.

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
Butterflies, little butterflies, aren't they cute.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Picking dandelions yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
I wonder when the hot dogs are going to rain.
Is that the fifth inning or thesixth inning?

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
Is it going to rain?
It's going to rain hot dogs.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Yeah, all right, I missed that part All righty
there you go All righty, allrighty Lynn Well so yeah, I
dedicate this episode to mine,sandberg.
And Oscar Mayer.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
And Oscar Mayer.
Oh, I wish I were an OscarMayer.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Oh yeah, you probably know the really old song, yeah,
yeah.
I was just kidding, it was $7for a hot dog when I went there
a few weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
$7.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Yeah, I think it's been like that for a few years
now, and it wasn't even a footlong.
No, oh, you know what, though?
I'm going to a game this Sunday, I was going to say I'm going
to one on the 15th.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Save your money.
Well, it's dollar dog night,it's fireworks, yeah we got
fireworks, something else,they're getting them, little
Vienna sausages, they're soskinny.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Yeah, they're not giving you the regular, ours is
a Sunday afternoon game while myson's home, because he's like,
well, we can go during the week,and then he's like, oh no, we
can't, because they're playingthe Mets during the week.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
So we can't go then, oh yeah, dang it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
I can't think of what else would they be?
Oh, is it a t-shirt?
Maybe, maybe a t-shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
It's a bobblehead.
They don't even use the t-shirtcannons anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
You know who does, though the Cavs.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Oh, do they.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
Oh, and there's sky rockets, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
They don't even.
Mm-hmm, I mean they got Don'tsay that too loud the he's
already wanted to buy one Not topass offense, but they got a
few small teenage girls throwingthem into the stands.
Oh, I know they can't get themmore than three rows deep.
Uh-uh, uh-uh.
So yeah, like the same kid getsfour t-shirts, nobody else gets
one.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
First 10,000 fans gets a free shirt.
Fireworks and Dollar Dog night.
So it is a shirt.
That's a good one, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
So you better be there early.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Well, yeah, but I, you know, god forbid, I leave
work an hour early, because lasttime I left an hour early it
was like a tornado.
We'll see, it starts at 710.
And I get, I'm telling them, Idon't know, maybe I'll leave at
four.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
There you go, there you go.
You're going to have to giveyourself plenty of time for the
traffic, I know.
And then you get there and it'sgoing to take you an hour to
get into the stadium and thenyou're going to get your t-shirt
.
We already booked our parkingspot too.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
We already have a parking spot.
That's a good idea.
I need to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
Maybe I'll leave about 3.30.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
Well, that's what I did last time, for maybe the
game was 7.10.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Yeah, and what time did you get there In your seat,
like 6.20, 6.25,.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
I think we were in the seat.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Yes, but you had we had somebody sitting in our
seats when we got there, so Ihad to go back up tell the guy I
felt like such a tattletale.
Can you go tell the guy it feltlike such a?

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
tattletale.
Can you go tell the job?
That was very admirable of you,because I just said hey bud,
you're in my seat, let me seeyour ticket, Tickets please.
Get your ticket here.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Sunday 82 degrees, so it shouldn't be too terribly
hot.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
while we're there, you'll get the breeze off the
lake.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
That'll be nice, yeah .

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
If it's breezing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Should be.
It will be Breezing.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
Yeah, that's like wind.
I know Breezing, yeah, but youhave to have you know Wind, yeah
.
Did you ever see anybodyhauling a sailboat fuel?

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
no, but my, my brother-in-law is like a sailor,
like I see what you're saying.
What, oh, all right, I, I don'tknow.
There's no more brain cells.
There's none, pastor roger,it's the hot dog.
All right, there's no more raincells?

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
There's none, pastor Roger.
It's the hot dog race, notraining hot dogs, oh, hot dog
race.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
And they have.
Onion is now who's the new one?
Is it onion?
Oh I don't know, it's a girl.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Yeah, I think it is onion, onion, and she's all
sparkly and dazzling and holds apurse and runs.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
She wasn't there last year when I went, they got
ketchup mustard, yeah, I thinkonion is the new one Do they
have relish too.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
I feel like they don't.
I think so.
There's four of them.
Is it ketchup mustard and thenballpark mustard Two mustards.
We have two mustards in myhouse.
I have ballpark mustard andthen onions Two mustards.
Yeah, we have two mustards inmy house.
I have ballpark mustard andyellow mustard.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
I can't remember them , yeah, but if you were at the
ballpark you'd get ballparkmustard.
They're not going to carry two.
You either take the ballpark oryou just do without, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
Who was the?
Is the other one?
Like they wouldn't have mayo.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
I was yeah, no, not on Uh-uh no.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
Maybe it is relish, maybe peanut butter, peanut
butter On your hot dog.
I know people put peanut butteron their hot dog, on their
Sloppy Joes?
Huh yeah, that's kind of what Isaw.
I never tried it, but I likepeanut butter.
I never tried it.
No, what are these?

(01:05:59):
Are these people that aredressed as I'm?
Just, I'm, I'm dead serious,I've never, I've never seen them
.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
Oh, you haven't they run around, they yeah, the hot
dog.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
Yeah, do they chase the hot dog?

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
try to get on top of him no, they've got like a buzz
is it's not in the seventhinning stretch A bus no.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Sixth inning, I think , oh, golf carts.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
No, they've got a buzzer.
Like they go, you know three,two, one, and then they run
around, and then they run.
It might be to Mario Kart too.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Mario Kart sound Around the bases.
Yeah, oh, I was going to see.
Yeah, yeah, oh, I was going tosee.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Yeah, what is?

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
it?
Who is spicy mustards?
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
So we've got pink, pink lemonade.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Michael will be so proud of us.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Right, he's like they should have closed down prayer
a long time ago.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Ketchup mustard onion and newcomer spicy mustard.
So the newcomer was spicymustard.
But, they've had onionInteresting.
Oh, here's the picture, roger.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
So they actually race .

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
Yeah, and they push each other and they fall down
and do flips.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
I think onion was hitting the other one with her
purse.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
Probably.

Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
That's pretty neat.
Yeah, I mean I was being deadserious.
Yeah, Anything for a gimmick.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
Yep, alright, well it's Beth, oh look at her.
She's always on vacation we'regoing to have to remember that
she's always on vacation.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
I feel like we should put a sign, like a paper, and
say hey, beth, it's your turn topray tonight, so we don't
forget.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
I think we should just call her She'll use that
we're out at the boat.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
I didn't have any service.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Exactly that's what I was about to say.
All right, so, nick, would youmind?
Okay, let me get us ready.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
Lord, thank you for bringing us all here together
tonight.
I know that you know we neverknow what's coming up in our
life next.
You know there's alwayschallenges that we have to face
that will come as a surprise tous.
But the one thing I do know isthat, no matter what comes our
way, with you at our center, wecan always handle those problems

(01:08:30):
.
We can always help other peoplehandle their problems.

Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
And we can just take anything that may seem at first
like something unfortunate.
We can turn those things into ablessing.
We can be leaders, we can guidepeople and just keep our life
going in the direction that youwould see fit.
And I just pray that we cancontinue to do those things and

(01:08:55):
I know that we can as long as wealways look to your guidance
first.
I pray that we all have safetravels tonight.
I pray we can all meet againhere next week.
I say all these things in yourprecious name, amen, amen.