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August 14, 2025 49 mins

What are the people concerns when it comes to cybersecurity?


Today Ward welcomes seasoned security veteran and CEO of Nexasure, Rick McElroy. Rick, with over 25 years of experience in cybersecurity, shares his insights on the primary challenges organizations face in data security, focusing on the often-overlooked human and cultural elements. He emphasizes the importance of education, awareness, and the need for a balanced investment between technology and people. Rick also delves into the dynamics of cross-generational training and the impact of organizational culture on security programs. Additionally, he shares his personal journey in cybersecurity, discusses the significance of continuous learning and volunteering, and offers advice for individuals looking to enter or advance in the field. The episode highlights the need for a holistic approach to data security that includes both technological solutions and human factors.

 

Takeaways:

  • Prioritize People and Culture in Security: Invest in security awareness and education at all levels of the organization, not just in technology.
  • Engage Leadership Early: Start security conversations at the highest levels (C-suite) to ensure buy-in and proper governance. Clarify who is responsible for risk and ensure decision-makers are educated on security issues.
  • Balance Technology with Human Factors: Don’t rely solely on technical solutions; consider how changes impact people and workflows. Design security controls and processes with end users in mind to minimize friction and maximize adoption.
  • Invest in Prevention and Smart Tooling: Focus on effective, well-managed controls rather than constantly switching tools. Choose vendors and solutions that can scale with your organization and minimize switching costs.
  • Tailor Security Training to Your Audience: Use multimodal training approaches (video, experiential, written) to reach different generations and learning styles.
  • Support Career Growth and Entry into Cybersecurity: Take advantage of free vendor training and volunteer opportunities to gain experience.

Quote of the Show:

  • “What I'm actually interested in is a change in behavior to the positive, even if that's a tiny thing that one user does that's more secure than it was yesterday.” - Rick McElroy

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