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October 18, 2023 72 mins

Petra Bagust (Grey Areas) and Charlotte Cook (Hair And Loathing) share intimate details and personal stories about different parts of their bodies and how their hair impacts their everyday lives.

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If you've ever wondered why people want lovely long eyelashes and hair - but are not so keen on the monobrow or the dreaded sign of salt and pepper ageing - we might just have the podcast for you.

Broadcasters and award-winning podcasters Petra Bagust (Grey Areas) and Charlotte Cook (Hair and Loathing) have become accidental advocates of embracing both body hair and grey hair. In a special crossover podcast episode, the two reflect on their respective experiences of going grey and being hairy.

Petra and Charlotte also run through some of the reactions they've had from the outside world and how they have felt along the way. Charlotte proudly shows off her slowly evolving grey hair collection while Petra talks about all the ways she's tried to keep herself to the impossible standard of the 'hairless norm'.

Together they talk about societal expectations, challenging the norm, and why society is so invested in what other people do with their HEAD and BODY hair. The pair start by chatting over a favourite pastime with a luxurious hair 'edit' from stylist Stephen Marr in the video below, before settling in at Petra's home to discuss everything prickly from top to toe.

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