March 6, 2025 • 29 mins
During this reflective episode, we explore the difference between relationships that satisfy us versus those that introduce more stress into our lives. Looking back at our own journeys, we can often identify periods where we weren't thriving and connect them directly to who we were—or weren't—spending time with.
We dig into what makes a friendship transformative rather than merely transactional. Are your friends "takers" or "givers"? Do they provide a safe space where you can process thoughts without judgment? The most valuable connections are those that challenge us to grow while offering genuine support and understanding.
As digital natives in an analog world, we question whether online relationships can provide the depth and stability that in-person friendships offer. While social media creates connections, they often lack the foundation necessary for lasting impact—like two wires loosely wrapped with electrical tape rather than properly soldered together.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to the Half Century Hangout.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
You know, all I got to say is a grown man watching a
bunch of other grown men intights running.
It's called the NFL Combine andI love it.
It was a great weekend to watchA 4-8-4 offensive line 40.
Absolutely amazing, not tomention all the rest of it that
goes with it.
His vertical, his everything,his wingspan break at the hips.
(00:23):
You know Good old DonovanEdwards from Michigan, best
running back, bench presser ofthe running backs how many?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
did, he do?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
25, I believe he was.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Broke a record.
Yeah, what weight do they haveon those 225.
225.
Man, I would hate to have a.
What did you say?
4'8"?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, 380 pounds running at me he's 335 pounds I
think he is.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, I got a story about getting knocked over by a
center as I was officiating, butwe'll do that another time.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
That wasn't at a Kern game, was it?
No, it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
It might have been a coach as far as I remember, IKM
Manning.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
it might have been a coach as far as I remember, I
can't get manning.
Yeah, okay, gotcha.
Oh, that's hilarious.
I mean, it's been one of those.
You know, we had a snow day inthere.
We had some blizzard stuffgoing on here in our area, which
was kind of funny, because nowyou look out, it's just mud now,
right.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
But it's a spring, spring, snow right yeah, it's
gone the next day.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
That's the way it is in march yep yeah, I was
actually kind of surprised,because I really didn't think
that it was going to snow thatmuch.
I was super surprised too, myson was over, we had, out of all
things, tater tot casserole hewanted, which was hilarious, and
he wanted to eat some.
So we were.
And we were just kind ofhanging around and watching the
(01:42):
world's best dunks on YouTubeand looked outside and like, oh,
it did start snowing, yeah, andthere was a little snow.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
So, yeah, my wife got home, probably right around 545
, six o'clock, something likethat, and it was just spitting a
little bit of ice.
Next thing we look, you know,look outside, and it's there it
is.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, it was, it was, it was something, but it was
pretty icy yesterday when wewent in.
I had to go into work, so itwas a little icy outside.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, that rain that fell before the snow man.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, yeah, that got it.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
And the snow was heavy.
That's a spring snow.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I actually lucked out and I should probably give him
a little shout out.
I don't think he listens to thepodcast, but maybe he will.
My next door neighbor shoveledmy driveway.
Oh, that's nice he came overand did it.
I shouldn't say he's a kid, Imean he's 22, I think.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
But he's a kid to me.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
But yeah, I came home and I was ready to do it last
night because I didn't do itbefore.
I went to work yesterday andcame back and it was all mostly
dried up because I got the southfacing driveway and it's like
hey what?
Happened facing driveway andit's like hey, what?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
happened.
He's probably going to send youa bill, though.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Oh, I doubt it.
Check's in the mail buddy.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Check's in the mail.
That's all I know.
Did it out of being generous.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, he's a good guy .
He's a good guy.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
You know, it kind of leads into what we've been
talking about friendship andwhat people do for other people.
You know, we've got thisdigital world and it's isolating
a lot of people.
It's tough.
Yeah, our former SurgeonGeneral he's kind of emerged as
(03:12):
a voice talking about the healthbenefits of our human
connections.
His critical component of ouroverall mental and physical
health is not merely a socialluxury but, beyond providing
(03:33):
emotional support, we've gotmeaningful friendships that can
actually serve as a form ofpreventative medicine.
Can you believe that?
No Preventative medicine?
No way.
Can you believe that?
No Preventative medicine?
No way.
So we're going to talk a littlebit about how friendships might
reduce stress, boost immunefunction and maybe extend even
our life expectancy.
(03:54):
What do you think, luke?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Hold on, let me take a drink.
I think.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I don't know if that will extend your life expectancy
.
I think it will.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I think that it's interesting that you know we
mentioned the digital world andhere we are doing a podcast
which is kind of funny but Ithink that it's interesting
enough to know that, lookingback at our lives, as we do all
the time, you do see and you cantell at least I can.
(04:28):
I don't want to speak foreverybody here, but you can tell
the times in your life, maybethat you weren't 100%, maybe you
just weren't yourself, or youweren't where you wanted to be,
whatever it was, and we couldprobably tie some of that back
to either A, who it was that youwere hanging around with, or B,
who you weren't hanging aroundwith you know what I'm saying.
(04:52):
And I think that, that is kindof the way that I approached it
when we started thinking aboutthis and we're putting the show
together, is that I can look atit that way and I can tell, yeah
, you know, there was a timewhere I was probably hanging
around the people that weren'tgreat for me, if that makes
sense.
Yeah, you know there was a timewhere I was probably hanging
around the people that weren'tgreat for me.
If that makes sense, yeah, sure, but you know, now, as we sit
here, I'm like, hey, I'msurrounded by the people that I
(05:15):
need to be, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, and I agree.
I think there's this mindsetthat just having friends is
going to make your life better.
But I think it's actually howdo those friends impact you?
So if you have friends thatimpact you negatively, then it's
going to have kind of anegative, it's going to put more
(05:38):
stress in your life, and noneof us need that.
But I think what we're lookingfor are connections or
friendships or relationshipsthat actually satisfy you.
And if you have those types offriendships the more types of
friendships that you have thatare like that in your life, that
actually satisfy you or fill ascratch and itch is the way I
would say it then I think yourlife is going to be more
(06:01):
fulfilling.
Think your life is going to bemore fulfilling?
Yeah, and it's going to be.
You know you're going toexperience probably a little
more health, or you're going toexperience, you know, your
mental part, that part of yourlife, your mental health, is
going to be better.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
But when you start having those relationships, or
if you have too many of thoserelationships in your life that
are kind of a strain, that start, you know, introducing stress
into your life, that kind ofhurts your, your, your mental
health kind of cause it has animpact on your mental health and
a negative, negative aspect.
But yeah, that's kind of mythoughts on it.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
No, I was listening to another podcast and they were
talking about takers and givers.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
You ever?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
had any friends that maybe you could say they're
takers and friends.
Oh sure, I think we know thosepeople Are givers, and how would
you know the difference betweenthose two?
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Well, I think one of the things when you think of it
that way is that you know, as afriend I mean we talked about
this a little bit last week whenwe were talking about
friendship and I've alwayslooked at it as to what could I
offer somebody, what could Ihelp them with, what can I give
them.
I think, in some way, one wayor another, we're all getting
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something from the relationship.
I mean we could call ourselvesa taker if we wanted to be, but
the idea is, is there a balanceright?
Am I giving and taking right?
Or am I just in this for me andI'm just grabbing, you know,
and doing whatever?
And I think that we couldprobably all identify somebody
in our lives past, present, youknow whatever that we could have
(07:43):
fall into that category.
But I think that in our world,like the three of us that are in
, we see this with kids all thetime, and that's one of the
things that I try to talk withkids about.
I'm like you call this personyour best friend.
You got some work to do here,because this person is, like you
said, john, being a taker here.
(08:04):
Because this person is, likeyou said, john, being a taker,
they're using you for something.
They're not really offering youanything healthy or beneficial
for you.
For you it's more of like it'sthe thought of having friends,
like you said, is that we lookat those things and we're like,
yeah well, we've got lots offriends.
But when it comes down to it atour age here at the Half
(08:26):
Century Hangout, it's like we'vegot it figured out now because
we know, right, we have peoplein our lives that we could call
friends, like they're there, butwe know when the rubber hits
the road.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
who do we know what's going on?
Who it is?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
And I think that's what growth is about know what's
going on, you know who it is,yeah, and I think that's what
growth is about.
And I think that when we'reyounger we don't always know
because we just we don't know,we don't really know.
And you said too somethingchuck there that was interesting
was do we always know what weeven want or need?
we don't, because when we'reyounger we don't really know no,
you just think, oh, we gotfriends, it's cool, you know, I
(09:03):
got people to hang out withwhatever.
You don't really know what youeven need or want from that
friendship or that connection.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
You don't really understand that yeah, but I
think of what it means to havefriends and like that
satisfaction that we get inthose relationships, or whether
or not that relationshipintroduces more stress into my
life.
I'm'm just thinking about, likewhat are like, is it a safe
spot?
It is a.
(09:30):
Is it a safe place to where Ican share something that may be
a little bit edgy, or maybe I'ma verbal processor, right, and
so if I'm trying to work my waythrough something mentally and I
I state it verbally and itmakes like zero sense, I want to
(09:53):
make sure that the people I'mhanging with aren't going to
judge me because I'm, I mightactually change my mind by the
time I'm done with theconversation.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
So I had a high relationship with these people,
some good friends, jen and I, mywife, when we were growing up.
Our kids were young, all of ourkids were young.
That hung out in this friendgroup and I said something that
was a bit edgy in that aroundthat table, but it was received
really well and they helped mework through that thing and
(10:26):
could see my perspective, eventhough it wasn't necessarily a
popular perspective.
They could see it and theydidn't judge me for it because
it wasn't what most people wouldthink would come out of my
mouth.
And yet it was a safe space tobe able to process that and kind
of come to a conclusion.
And by the time we were donewith that conversation it was
(10:48):
completely different.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I got stuck there for a second.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
You sounded like a millennial or a Gen Z there for
a second Safe space.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I'm like oh, my Psychologically safe, yeah, I
hear you All that right, yeah,yeah, I hear you, though.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
They're supporting and helping me to formulate my
ideas a little bit better, and Ithink that's what you were
talking about.
A little bit is the supportthat a friend can give you.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
And it's not necessarily even affirming in
the conversation.
It doesn't have to be affirmingLike.
You don't have to say, oh, Iagree with you, but you have to
say, oh, maybe I understand alittle bit.
Explain to me a little bit more, chuck, what you're, where
you're coming from.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I appreciate those types of relationships, and
maybe it's even a little bit ofa challenge right.
Yeah, I mean those friends thatcan challenge you to be a
better person.
Yeah, then, what you're cominginto, that friendship with?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
That's why I love you guys.
What'd you, what'd?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
you say today what did you?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
say today Thank you, I did over the radio today.
I told you guys, thanks forbeing my friends.
I had kids over there bullyingme on the side.
I was getting hurt.
No, I think that the biggestthing that I take from it really
is thinking back and I knowwe're going to touch on this a
little bit later, but thinkingback of friends that I've had,
(12:27):
friends that I have now and theway that I see my life going at
this age that I'm at now.
Right is that it's like nightand day.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Of what I thought then, what's transpired between
then and now, what I feel nowand what I think I feel that's
going to happen, moving forward.
And I think that one of thethings that I know we've talked
about I don't want to jump thegun too much, but it's almost
looking at and talking aboutpeople that you have in your
(12:59):
life, whether it's right now orwhether it was somebody in the
past, that you don't see veryoften or talk to very often.
It's kind of funny to talk withthose people if you haven't for
a while, and then you're likehuh it's interesting I never
realized that about that personbefore.
You know what I mean, becausenow, you're looking at it deeper
, you're looking at it from adifferent perspective, like for
(13:22):
me, it's kind of funny because Imoved right and I moved a
little further West.
I'm still in the Midwest, butI'm in a different area of the.
Midwest and it's a little bitdifferent, you know, and people
are well wherever you go, peopleare different, right, on
different levels, not that it'sbad or good or otherwise.
It's just the idea that youlearn from the people that
(13:43):
you're around.
Yeah, and I like to always makesure that I'm learning from
them, not just pushing my agenda.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
So how do you cut those people out of your life?
That sounds like a really wrongway to say it, but people who
are introducing stress into yourlife, they're causing like your
mental health is going down andI'll be honest, I probably
cause stress in people's lifeLike I'm probably that guy at
some point.
(14:11):
I think we all do.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
At some point everybody does, so where?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
do you?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
draw the line then Like how do you get?
How do you say you know what?
I'm done we aren't going to befriends anymore.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
We aren't going to be friends anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
It's been way too many times.
I don't think I've ever saidthat yeah, but I think I mean I
probably thought it.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Planned ignoring.
Is that what you do?
Yeah, I mean kind of.
I mean I think that you say I'mnot answering the phone anymore
.
It's kind of like an Irishgoodbye, right what's an Irish
goodbye.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
What's an Irish?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
goodbye.
You know that's an Irishgoodbye.
I've never heard that.
I've never heard that I'm like.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
St Patrick's Day is coming, folks, it's one of my
favorite.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
There's not a lick of Irish in me, but I love it.
Anyway, we're going to touch onthat one next week sometime.
But that's the thing is that Idon't know that I would just say
to those people, hey, we're notgoing to be friends anymore, or
whatever.
It's more of like a you justkind of let it go, you just kind
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of and I think, that people,especially and again when you
were younger.
It's one thing, and now we seeit with kids all the time.
Right, how many times do kids?
Oh, we were friends yesterdayand now all of a sudden she's
talking shit, it's like Are youfriends?
Yeah, I hear you no, but yeah,okay, it's literally so for us
it's like you know, okay, so I'mnot going to call John anymore
(15:27):
at 10 o'clock at night, when Ithink it's eight, 30.
All right.
It's, it's, it's one of thosethings where you, you kind of
just you pick and choose.
For me personally I'm justtalking about myself at the
moment is that I would pick andchoose who I would talk with or
hang with or be a part of theirlife in certain situations, just
(15:52):
based on life and how it'sgoing.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
You know what I mean.
That is a part of how wecultivate those friendships.
We can either cultivate thefriendship and and help it
become more transformational forboth of us.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Or we can let the field go to seed and let it all
go to wildflowers and just notnot mess with it.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
And I think that part of that is is for me personally
is that I've had somesituations in my life where I've
had those people where I'm like, all right, I'm kind of done
with them you know what I mean,like I'm not severing the idea.
It's just like if they're smartenough, they're picking up on
it, right, that I'm not aroundor I'm not talking with them or
I'm not messing, whatever it is,whatever it is.
(16:49):
But those people have reachedout like maybe six months later,
or a year later, and they're ina spot, who do you?
I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna sayno right I'm gonna help them.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So so for me it's more of a thing.
Is is.
For me it's the uh, I I'mtrying to think of it like in a
computer sense.
It's like cookies.
Are your cache right Like am Icaching all the cookies in?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Am I getting rid of them?
You said cache.
Am I clearing that?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
out.
Is it supposed to be cache?
Yeah, it's cache.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
That's all right.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
That's my dog's name too.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
But my thing is that I look at it and I'm like am I
clearing all that out, or am Ijust kind of keeping it in the
back and putting it in anotherfile?
until later, Because you know,let's face it.
I mean for myself.
It's like there might be timeswhere I'd be like I need another
voice to this.
You know and it might besomebody in my past that I was
(17:40):
like you know what that dude Notever, you know, no, but that
guy over there I could probablycall him and he'd he'd help me
out.
I think he would know what I'mtalking about.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
You know what I'm saying.
I think the people around mehelp dictate that choice.
So if you've created thatdistance and an individual wants
to come back into your life andmy wife is like ah, you know
what, I think you are better offif you keep that distance
between you right now.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Then I'm going to listen to her People who I value
their relationship.
I'm going to listen to them inthat particular situation.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Well, it's like friends calling you back or
calling you later.
Do you say yes, do you even gobeyond and and start to to
cultivate that?
Do you set a date and say, hey,let's go for lunch and?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
sure, I think one of the things and this is kind of
hitting on the edge of it alittle bit, I don't want to jump
too far into it, but I thinkthe interesting part is is if
you have separated a little bitfrom a group or from some people
and then you're in a situation,wherever it is and those people
(18:56):
are there, you figure it out ina hurry because you remember
and you're like huh yeah, like Ihaven't seen this person in a
while, or I haven't talked tothis person in a while.
Now I remember why.
You know what I mean, sure.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Like.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I just kind of file that stuff, Like I don't.
That's just the way that I'vealways kind of dealt with it.
But then it's like you see themor you talk with them briefly
or you, oh hey, how's it going?
I haven't seen you in 100 years, you know, whatever it is, I
think that it's one of thosethings where you it kind of
comes back and you're like, oh,now I remember why.
I remember why.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
You know it doesn't take long.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
But when you've been around for a while, like we have
, you know the old dog remembersthe tricks.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
That's for sure.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
It's the way it goes.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
What do you guys think?
With everyone on our phones,with social media, how do you
guys think real friendships aredifferent from just having a
bunch of online connections andthose social media connections?
How is that different and what?
Makes a friendship, somethingthat actually helps you feel
(20:04):
good and supported.
I know we've been talking aboutthat.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I think that that's a little bit generational,
because I don't think that well,I don't have anybody, at least
in my life, that I would say isan online friend.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
You know what I'm saying?
I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I don't have anybody like that.
You know what I'm saying.
I was thinking the same thing Idon't have anybody like that.
Now I will say in the back ofthat I have friends that right
now that live somewhere else,that my main communication with
them might be, but you werephysical friends before that,
but I was already friends withthem.
It's not like I'm going andlooking.
If anything, I probably haveenemies if anything.
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But, it's like I think that it'sone of those deals where just
even that word to me, an onlinefriend or connection doesn't
mean anything.
It's a very shallow, verywhatever it is.
Now I'm not saying and I coulddelve into this some other time
Now I'm not saying and I coulddelve into this some other time
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you could meet somebody throughthat connection, but you're not
really making the connectionuntil you actually meet Right
Physically, in person.
You're talking with them, youhang out with them, you figure
out.
You know.
It's not like I'm sharing mydeepest feelings with somebody
online who I don't even know whothey are.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
But there are people that do.
Oh, I know, there are peoplewho have these online
connections and they like getdeep and intimate, you know,
through text.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
And you start thinking about social media.
Do those two words go, socialmedia?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Well, they do, and only for the fact that, really,
when it first came out, socialmedia was the idea to build
bigger groups.
That's kind of what the ideawas, which it does.
I mean, let's be real.
If you got a post of somethingfrom somewhere and it's got a
million likes, okay, there's agigantic group of people.
Do all those people know eachother?
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No, do 10 of them, Maybe, andeven then they don't know each
other.
They don't know what it is.
It's kind of like you go onYouTube I'm just using the other
night as the example I go onYouTube and we're finding here's
the best 10 dunks of 2025.
Like my son's an NBA guy, sowe're watching it and it's 10
different guys like differentvideos.
(22:21):
Well, they all have a differentopinion as to what the best
dunks of the year were.
Right, half of them.
I'm like this guy is ridiculous.
Why would you even?
But you look in, 500,000 peoplewatched his video.
You know what I mean.
So it's like the connectionsare soft, though they're not
real.
Yeah, it's like it's like.
It's like it's like taking twowires right, this is the way I
(22:43):
think.
Yeah, it's taking two wires anddoing the twisting and put some
tape on it.
It's not solder, it's notconnectors right, it's nothing,
it's.
It's a piece of two littlethings of copper with a piece of
electrical tape around it thatyou could pull apart like that
sure.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
So it's, I it's.
I think what I'm hearing yousay is that it is a connection,
it's just not.
It doesn't have a whole lot ofstability.
Yeah, I mean it's really what?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
what am I going to do if I, you know, if I'm making a
friend online that who knows,whatever it is, and my truck
breaks down on the road?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna message this guy message
they'll come help me out theinteresting thing though I live
in utah when you talk aboutconnections like there are
people who connect with us onthis podcast.
Just because we are who we areand our podcast is getting out
there, more people are listeningto it and there are people, I
think, who are connecting withit, um, and even though it may
not be like the strongestconnection, it still means,
(23:38):
means something to them, becausethey are and we want those
people to reach out to us,though.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Because the thing about it is is that it's a two
way street, right, it's.
It's.
If you're finding somethingthat we're saying which is good
and you're connecting with it,we want to do the same to you
and we want you to say, hey, hey, you guys should talk about
this because, whatever and Ithink that that's important
because, again, like I justthink of it as an old guy like
(24:05):
how can the connections if it'sonly ever been online or
electronically or in that world.
How can they be that strong?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
sure, I just don't the difference.
From an online social mediaperspective, when we're talking
those types of connections, thedifference difference is
connection versus engagementright.
Yeah, so I think people canengage really well online,
whether it's through Zoom orFaceTime or whatever like
(24:34):
face-to-face type of Becausethey're wearing their underwear.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Media they have.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Hopefully they're sitting at a thing and wearing
their underwear and they gotsomething on you know.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
I mean, but it's different.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
You know, it's like you look at it.
I mean we always called it likethe keyboard warriors, right?
Like, oh, you're real strongbehind the keyboard, nobody
knows, and you're talking allkinds Like the kids say that and
people say that all the time.
Right, oh, you're talkingbehind the keyboard.
You're really tough, you know,right?
Well, it could be whoever.
We don't know who it is, wehave no idea who it is.
They could say anything theywant, and who are we to say
(25:06):
you're lying?
You know what I mean?
It's just a different world tome and it's hard.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Yeah, I just don't want to discount the value.
I think there's a value forcertain people making those
connections and engagementsonline.
I think there are people thatcan take advantage of those
things.
Yes, absolutely, I would agreewith you, but I think there is a
lot of help to be, a lot ofrelational value that can be
(25:35):
found online.
There can be, I would agree.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
And I wish, I guess in a perfect world, that it
wasn't that way.
But I understand it Personallymyself.
I don't think that, it's justnot me but I'm not going to say
that it shouldn't happen to you,whoever you are right, Because
you're going to do you.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
You talked about the connection.
People can make connections indifferent ways.
It's that relationship, and howdo you build that into a
transformation rather than atransaction?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah, I think those were the words that you were
looking for last time.
Transactional versustransformational Right right.
We each have been involved inrelationships that have been
simply transactional.
Well you do for me and I'll dofor you.
But the real friendships thatlast long times, they're
transformational, they change usas we continue to walk with
(26:31):
each other through life.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Absolutely.
You know that might be a goodthing to end on, and next time
we'll talk a little bit moreabout friendship and talk about
maybe how our past colors ourfriendship as we move forward.
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Speaker 2 (26:56):
I have a quote.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Oh, we got to get a quote in.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I forgot about that Before we get there.
Can I just mention the wineglasses, oh yeah, yeah, the
whiskey glasses, the wineglasses.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, whiskey and beer mugs, right.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
We've got whiskey and beer mugs.
We've got beer mugs and whiskeyglasses that we've just gotten
in today and they've got ourlogo on them.
And here's what we want to do.
We want to share these with thepeople that listen to the half
century hangout, and here's howwe want to do that.
If you would share our nextepisode that we post on facebook
(27:30):
, instagram, tiktok or twitter,if you would share those, your
name will go into a pot and wewill give away three of these
different wine glass or, I'msorry, whiskey glasses and beer
mugs.
So if you want a beer mug, ifyou want a whiskey glass, share
(27:50):
our podcast as soon as it comesout on social media, tell
someone about it and we willmake sure that you get into that
.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
And they're great.
They're etched glass dishwashersafe dishwasher safe, high
quality.
My dishwasher will be happy tohear that.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
She'll be happy to hear that we'll post a picture
of them on on facebook soundsgreat, sounds great so the quote
that I have.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Memories with the right people will always remain
priceless.
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Which I know that the author of this one was unknown.
It's just been one that's beenpassed down for years, but I
know that a couple of our nextepisodes we're going to go into
some things that we'll touch onwith that.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I just kind of wanted to put the drop in that bucket
and move on.
Well, thanks again for hangingout with us here at Half Century
Hangout, and we'll see you nexttime on the podcast Peace out.
Welcome back to the Half Century Hangout.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
You know, all I got to say is a grown man watching a
bunch of other grown men intights running.
It's called the NFL Combine andI love it.
It was a great weekend to watchA 4-8-4 offensive line 40.
Absolutely amazing, not tomention all the rest of it that
goes with it.
His vertical, his everything,his wingspan break at the hips.
(00:23):
You know Good old DonovanEdwards from Michigan, best
running back, bench presser ofthe running backs how many?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
did, he do?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
25, I believe he was.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Broke a record.
Yeah, what weight do they haveon those 225.
225.
Man, I would hate to have a.
What did you say?
4'8"?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, 380 pounds running at me he's 335 pounds I
think he is.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, I got a story about getting knocked over by a
center as I was officiating, butwe'll do that another time.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
That wasn't at a Kern game, was it?
No, it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
It might have been a coach as far as I remember, IKM
Manning.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
it might have been a coach as far as I remember, I
can't get manning.
Yeah, okay, gotcha.
Oh, that's hilarious.
I mean, it's been one of those.
You know, we had a snow day inthere.
We had some blizzard stuffgoing on here in our area, which
was kind of funny, because nowyou look out, it's just mud now,
right.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
But it's a spring, spring, snow right yeah, it's
gone the next day.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
That's the way it is in march yep yeah, I was
actually kind of surprised,because I really didn't think
that it was going to snow thatmuch.
I was super surprised too, myson was over, we had, out of all
things, tater tot casserole hewanted, which was hilarious, and
he wanted to eat some.
So we were.
And we were just kind ofhanging around and watching the
(01:42):
world's best dunks on YouTubeand looked outside and like, oh,
it did start snowing, yeah, andthere was a little snow.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
So, yeah, my wife got home, probably right around 545
, six o'clock, something likethat, and it was just spitting a
little bit of ice.
Next thing we look, you know,look outside, and it's there it
is.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, it was, it was, it was something, but it was
pretty icy yesterday when wewent in.
I had to go into work, so itwas a little icy outside.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, that rain that fell before the snow man.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, yeah, that got it.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
And the snow was heavy.
That's a spring snow.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I actually lucked out and I should probably give him
a little shout out.
I don't think he listens to thepodcast, but maybe he will.
My next door neighbor shoveledmy driveway.
Oh, that's nice he came overand did it.
I shouldn't say he's a kid, Imean he's 22, I think.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
But he's a kid to me.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
But yeah, I came home and I was ready to do it last
night because I didn't do itbefore.
I went to work yesterday andcame back and it was all mostly
dried up because I got the southfacing driveway and it's like
hey what?
Happened facing driveway andit's like hey, what?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
happened.
He's probably going to send youa bill, though.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Oh, I doubt it.
Check's in the mail buddy.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Check's in the mail.
That's all I know.
Did it out of being generous.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, he's a good guy .
He's a good guy.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
You know, it kind of leads into what we've been
talking about friendship andwhat people do for other people.
You know, we've got thisdigital world and it's isolating
a lot of people.
It's tough.
Yeah, our former SurgeonGeneral he's kind of emerged as
(03:12):
a voice talking about the healthbenefits of our human
connections.
His critical component of ouroverall mental and physical
health is not merely a socialluxury but, beyond providing
(03:33):
emotional support, we've gotmeaningful friendships that can
actually serve as a form ofpreventative medicine.
Can you believe that?
No Preventative medicine?
No way.
Can you believe that?
No Preventative medicine?
No way.
So we're going to talk a littlebit about how friendships might
reduce stress, boost immunefunction and maybe extend even
our life expectancy.
(03:54):
What do you think, luke?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Hold on, let me take a drink.
I think.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I don't know if that will extend your life expectancy
.
I think it will.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I think that it's interesting that you know we
mentioned the digital world andhere we are doing a podcast
which is kind of funny but Ithink that it's interesting
enough to know that, lookingback at our lives, as we do all
the time, you do see and you cantell at least I can.
(04:28):
I don't want to speak foreverybody here, but you can tell
the times in your life, maybethat you weren't 100%, maybe you
just weren't yourself, or youweren't where you wanted to be,
whatever it was, and we couldprobably tie some of that back
to either A, who it was that youwere hanging around with, or B,
who you weren't hanging aroundwith you know what I'm saying.
(04:52):
And I think that, that is kindof the way that I approached it
when we started thinking aboutthis and we're putting the show
together, is that I can look atit that way and I can tell, yeah
, you know, there was a timewhere I was probably hanging
around the people that weren'tgreat for me, if that makes
sense.
Yeah, you know there was a timewhere I was probably hanging
around the people that weren'tgreat for me.
If that makes sense, yeah, sure, but you know, now, as we sit
here, I'm like, hey, I'msurrounded by the people that I
(05:15):
need to be, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, and I agree.
I think there's this mindsetthat just having friends is
going to make your life better.
But I think it's actually howdo those friends impact you?
So if you have friends thatimpact you negatively, then it's
going to have kind of anegative, it's going to put more
(05:38):
stress in your life, and noneof us need that.
But I think what we're lookingfor are connections or
friendships or relationshipsthat actually satisfy you.
And if you have those types offriendships the more types of
friendships that you have thatare like that in your life, that
actually satisfy you or fill ascratch and itch is the way I
would say it then I think yourlife is going to be more
(06:01):
fulfilling.
Think your life is going to bemore fulfilling?
Yeah, and it's going to be.
You know you're going toexperience probably a little
more health, or you're going toexperience, you know, your
mental part, that part of yourlife, your mental health, is
going to be better.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
But when you start having those relationships, or
if you have too many of thoserelationships in your life that
are kind of a strain, that start, you know, introducing stress
into your life, that kind ofhurts your, your, your mental
health kind of cause it has animpact on your mental health and
a negative, negative aspect.
But yeah, that's kind of mythoughts on it.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
No, I was listening to another podcast and they were
talking about takers and givers.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
You ever?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
had any friends that maybe you could say they're
takers and friends.
Oh sure, I think we know thosepeople Are givers, and how would
you know the difference betweenthose two?
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Well, I think one of the things when you think of it
that way is that you know, as afriend I mean we talked about
this a little bit last week whenwe were talking about
friendship and I've alwayslooked at it as to what could I
offer somebody, what could Ihelp them with, what can I give
them.
I think, in some way, one wayor another, we're all getting
(07:20):
something from the relationship.
I mean we could call ourselvesa taker if we wanted to be, but
the idea is, is there a balanceright?
Am I giving and taking right?
Or am I just in this for me andI'm just grabbing, you know,
and doing whatever?
And I think that we couldprobably all identify somebody
in our lives past, present, youknow whatever that we could have
(07:43):
fall into that category.
But I think that in our world,like the three of us that are in
, we see this with kids all thetime, and that's one of the
things that I try to talk withkids about.
I'm like you call this personyour best friend.
You got some work to do here,because this person is, like you
said, john, being a taker here.
(08:04):
Because this person is, likeyou said, john, being a taker,
they're using you for something.
They're not really offering youanything healthy or beneficial
for you.
For you it's more of like it'sthe thought of having friends,
like you said, is that we lookat those things and we're like,
yeah well, we've got lots offriends.
But when it comes down to it atour age here at the Half
(08:26):
Century Hangout, it's like we'vegot it figured out now because
we know, right, we have peoplein our lives that we could call
friends, like they're there, butwe know when the rubber hits
the road.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
who do we know what's going on?
Who it is?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
And I think that's what growth is about know what's
going on, you know who it is,yeah, and I think that's what
growth is about.
And I think that when we'reyounger we don't always know
because we just we don't know,we don't really know.
And you said too somethingchuck there that was interesting
was do we always know what weeven want or need?
we don't, because when we'reyounger we don't really know no,
you just think, oh, we gotfriends, it's cool, you know, I
(09:03):
got people to hang out withwhatever.
You don't really know what youeven need or want from that
friendship or that connection.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
You don't really understand that yeah, but I
think of what it means to havefriends and like that
satisfaction that we get inthose relationships, or whether
or not that relationshipintroduces more stress into my
life.
I'm'm just thinking about, likewhat are like, is it a safe
spot?
It is a.
(09:30):
Is it a safe place to where Ican share something that may be
a little bit edgy, or maybe I'ma verbal processor, right, and
so if I'm trying to work my waythrough something mentally and I
I state it verbally and itmakes like zero sense, I want to
(09:53):
make sure that the people I'mhanging with aren't going to
judge me because I'm, I mightactually change my mind by the
time I'm done with theconversation.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
So I had a high relationship with these people,
some good friends, jen and I, mywife, when we were growing up.
Our kids were young, all of ourkids were young.
That hung out in this friendgroup and I said something that
was a bit edgy in that aroundthat table, but it was received
really well and they helped mework through that thing and
(10:26):
could see my perspective, eventhough it wasn't necessarily a
popular perspective.
They could see it and theydidn't judge me for it because
it wasn't what most people wouldthink would come out of my
mouth.
And yet it was a safe space tobe able to process that and kind
of come to a conclusion.
And by the time we were donewith that conversation it was
(10:48):
completely different.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I got stuck there for a second.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
You sounded like a millennial or a Gen Z there for
a second Safe space.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I'm like oh, my Psychologically safe, yeah, I
hear you All that right, yeah,yeah, I hear you, though.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
They're supporting and helping me to formulate my
ideas a little bit better, and Ithink that's what you were
talking about.
A little bit is the supportthat a friend can give you.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
And it's not necessarily even affirming in
the conversation.
It doesn't have to be affirmingLike.
You don't have to say, oh, Iagree with you, but you have to
say, oh, maybe I understand alittle bit.
Explain to me a little bit more, chuck, what you're, where
you're coming from.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I appreciate those types of relationships, and
maybe it's even a little bit ofa challenge right.
Yeah, I mean those friends thatcan challenge you to be a
better person.
Yeah, then, what you're cominginto, that friendship with?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
That's why I love you guys.
What'd you, what'd?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
you say today what did you?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
say today Thank you, I did over the radio today.
I told you guys, thanks forbeing my friends.
I had kids over there bullyingme on the side.
I was getting hurt.
No, I think that the biggestthing that I take from it really
is thinking back and I knowwe're going to touch on this a
little bit later, but thinkingback of friends that I've had,
(12:27):
friends that I have now and theway that I see my life going at
this age that I'm at now.
Right is that it's like nightand day.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Of what I thought then, what's transpired between
then and now, what I feel nowand what I think I feel that's
going to happen, moving forward.
And I think that one of thethings that I know we've talked
about I don't want to jump thegun too much, but it's almost
looking at and talking aboutpeople that you have in your
(12:59):
life, whether it's right now orwhether it was somebody in the
past, that you don't see veryoften or talk to very often.
It's kind of funny to talk withthose people if you haven't for
a while, and then you're likehuh it's interesting I never
realized that about that personbefore.
You know what I mean, becausenow, you're looking at it deeper
, you're looking at it from adifferent perspective, like for
(13:22):
me, it's kind of funny because Imoved right and I moved a
little further West.
I'm still in the Midwest, butI'm in a different area of the.
Midwest and it's a little bitdifferent, you know, and people
are well wherever you go, peopleare different, right, on
different levels, not that it'sbad or good or otherwise.
It's just the idea that youlearn from the people that
(13:43):
you're around.
Yeah, and I like to always makesure that I'm learning from
them, not just pushing my agenda.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
So how do you cut those people out of your life?
That sounds like a really wrongway to say it, but people who
are introducing stress into yourlife, they're causing like your
mental health is going down andI'll be honest, I probably
cause stress in people's lifeLike I'm probably that guy at
some point.
(14:11):
I think we all do.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
At some point everybody does, so where?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
do you?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
draw the line then Like how do you get?
How do you say you know what?
I'm done we aren't going to befriends anymore.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
We aren't going to be friends anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
It's been way too many times.
I don't think I've ever saidthat yeah, but I think I mean I
probably thought it.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Planned ignoring.
Is that what you do?
Yeah, I mean kind of.
I mean I think that you say I'mnot answering the phone anymore
.
It's kind of like an Irishgoodbye, right what's an Irish
goodbye.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
What's an Irish?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
goodbye.
You know that's an Irishgoodbye.
I've never heard that.
I've never heard that I'm like.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
St Patrick's Day is coming, folks, it's one of my
favorite.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
There's not a lick of Irish in me, but I love it.
Anyway, we're going to touch onthat one next week sometime.
But that's the thing is that Idon't know that I would just say
to those people, hey, we're notgoing to be friends anymore, or
whatever.
It's more of like a you justkind of let it go, you just kind
(15:07):
of and I think, that people,especially and again when you
were younger.
It's one thing, and now we seeit with kids all the time.
Right, how many times do kids?
Oh, we were friends yesterdayand now all of a sudden she's
talking shit, it's like Are youfriends?
Yeah, I hear you no, but yeah,okay, it's literally so for us
it's like you know, okay, so I'mnot going to call John anymore
(15:27):
at 10 o'clock at night, when Ithink it's eight, 30.
All right.
It's, it's, it's one of thosethings where you, you kind of
just you pick and choose.
For me personally I'm justtalking about myself at the
moment is that I would pick andchoose who I would talk with or
hang with or be a part of theirlife in certain situations, just
(15:52):
based on life and how it'sgoing.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
You know what I mean.
That is a part of how wecultivate those friendships.
We can either cultivate thefriendship and and help it
become more transformational forboth of us.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Or we can let the field go to seed and let it all
go to wildflowers and just notnot mess with it.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
And I think that part of that is is for me personally
is that I've had somesituations in my life where I've
had those people where I'm like, all right, I'm kind of done
with them you know what I mean,like I'm not severing the idea.
It's just like if they're smartenough, they're picking up on
it, right, that I'm not aroundor I'm not talking with them or
I'm not messing, whatever it is,whatever it is.
(16:49):
But those people have reachedout like maybe six months later,
or a year later, and they're ina spot, who do you?
I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna sayno right I'm gonna help them.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
So so for me it's more of a thing.
Is is.
For me it's the uh, I I'mtrying to think of it like in a
computer sense.
It's like cookies.
Are your cache right Like am Icaching all the cookies in?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Am I getting rid of them?
You said cache.
Am I clearing that?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
out.
Is it supposed to be cache?
Yeah, it's cache.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
That's all right.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
That's my dog's name too.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
But my thing is that I look at it and I'm like am I
clearing all that out, or am Ijust kind of keeping it in the
back and putting it in anotherfile?
until later, Because you know,let's face it.
I mean for myself.
It's like there might be timeswhere I'd be like I need another
voice to this.
You know and it might besomebody in my past that I was
(17:40):
like you know what that dude Notever, you know, no, but that
guy over there I could probablycall him and he'd he'd help me
out.
I think he would know what I'mtalking about.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
You know what I'm saying.
I think the people around mehelp dictate that choice.
So if you've created thatdistance and an individual wants
to come back into your life andmy wife is like ah, you know
what, I think you are better offif you keep that distance
between you right now.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Then I'm going to listen to her People who I value
their relationship.
I'm going to listen to them inthat particular situation.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Well, it's like friends calling you back or
calling you later.
Do you say yes, do you even gobeyond and and start to to
cultivate that?
Do you set a date and say, hey,let's go for lunch and?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
sure, I think one of the things and this is kind of
hitting on the edge of it alittle bit, I don't want to jump
too far into it, but I thinkthe interesting part is is if
you have separated a little bitfrom a group or from some people
and then you're in a situation,wherever it is and those people
(18:56):
are there, you figure it out ina hurry because you remember
and you're like huh yeah, like Ihaven't seen this person in a
while, or I haven't talked tothis person in a while.
Now I remember why.
You know what I mean, sure.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Like.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I just kind of file that stuff, Like I don't.
That's just the way that I'vealways kind of dealt with it.
But then it's like you see themor you talk with them briefly
or you, oh hey, how's it going?
I haven't seen you in 100 years, you know, whatever it is, I
think that it's one of thosethings where you it kind of
comes back and you're like, oh,now I remember why.
I remember why.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
You know it doesn't take long.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
But when you've been around for a while, like we have
, you know the old dog remembersthe tricks.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
That's for sure.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
It's the way it goes.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
What do you guys think?
With everyone on our phones,with social media, how do you
guys think real friendships aredifferent from just having a
bunch of online connections andthose social media connections?
How is that different and what?
Makes a friendship, somethingthat actually helps you feel
(20:04):
good and supported.
I know we've been talking aboutthat.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I think that that's a little bit generational,
because I don't think that well,I don't have anybody, at least
in my life, that I would say isan online friend.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
You know what I'm saying?
I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I don't have anybody like that.
You know what I'm saying.
I was thinking the same thing Idon't have anybody like that.
Now I will say in the back ofthat I have friends that right
now that live somewhere else,that my main communication with
them might be, but you werephysical friends before that,
but I was already friends withthem.
It's not like I'm going andlooking.
If anything, I probably haveenemies if anything.
(20:43):
But, it's like I think that it'sone of those deals where just
even that word to me, an onlinefriend or connection doesn't
mean anything.
It's a very shallow, verywhatever it is.
Now I'm not saying and I coulddelve into this some other time
Now I'm not saying and I coulddelve into this some other time
(21:04):
you could meet somebody throughthat connection, but you're not
really making the connectionuntil you actually meet Right
Physically, in person.
You're talking with them, youhang out with them, you figure
out.
You know.
It's not like I'm sharing mydeepest feelings with somebody
online who I don't even know whothey are.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
But there are people that do.
Oh, I know, there are peoplewho have these online
connections and they like getdeep and intimate, you know,
through text.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
And you start thinking about social media.
Do those two words go, socialmedia?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Well, they do, and only for the fact that, really,
when it first came out, socialmedia was the idea to build
bigger groups.
That's kind of what the ideawas, which it does.
I mean, let's be real.
If you got a post of somethingfrom somewhere and it's got a
million likes, okay, there's agigantic group of people.
Do all those people know eachother?
(22:00):
No, do 10 of them, Maybe, andeven then they don't know each
other.
They don't know what it is.
It's kind of like you go onYouTube I'm just using the other
night as the example I go onYouTube and we're finding here's
the best 10 dunks of 2025.
Like my son's an NBA guy, sowe're watching it and it's 10
different guys like differentvideos.
(22:21):
Well, they all have a differentopinion as to what the best
dunks of the year were.
Right, half of them.
I'm like this guy is ridiculous.
Why would you even?
But you look in, 500,000 peoplewatched his video.
You know what I mean.
So it's like the connectionsare soft, though they're not
real.
Yeah, it's like it's like.
It's like it's like taking twowires right, this is the way I
(22:43):
think.
Yeah, it's taking two wires anddoing the twisting and put some
tape on it.
It's not solder, it's notconnectors right, it's nothing,
it's.
It's a piece of two littlethings of copper with a piece of
electrical tape around it thatyou could pull apart like that
sure.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
So it's, I it's.
I think what I'm hearing yousay is that it is a connection,
it's just not.
It doesn't have a whole lot ofstability.
Yeah, I mean it's really what?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
what am I going to do if I, you know, if I'm making a
friend online that who knows,whatever it is, and my truck
breaks down on the road?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna message this guy message
they'll come help me out theinteresting thing though I live
in utah when you talk aboutconnections like there are
people who connect with us onthis podcast.
Just because we are who we areand our podcast is getting out
there, more people are listeningto it and there are people, I
think, who are connecting withit, um, and even though it may
not be like the strongestconnection, it still means,
(23:38):
means something to them, becausethey are and we want those
people to reach out to us,though.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Because the thing about it is is that it's a two
way street, right, it's.
It's.
If you're finding somethingthat we're saying which is good
and you're connecting with it,we want to do the same to you
and we want you to say, hey, hey, you guys should talk about
this because, whatever and Ithink that that's important
because, again, like I justthink of it as an old guy like
(24:05):
how can the connections if it'sonly ever been online or
electronically or in that world.
How can they be that strong?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
sure, I just don't the difference.
From an online social mediaperspective, when we're talking
those types of connections, thedifference difference is
connection versus engagementright.
Yeah, so I think people canengage really well online,
whether it's through Zoom orFaceTime or whatever like
(24:34):
face-to-face type of Becausethey're wearing their underwear.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Media they have.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Hopefully they're sitting at a thing and wearing
their underwear and they gotsomething on you know.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
I mean, but it's different.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
You know, it's like you look at it.
I mean we always called it likethe keyboard warriors, right?
Like, oh, you're real strongbehind the keyboard, nobody
knows, and you're talking allkinds Like the kids say that and
people say that all the time.
Right, oh, you're talkingbehind the keyboard.
You're really tough, you know,right?
Well, it could be whoever.
We don't know who it is, wehave no idea who it is.
They could say anything theywant, and who are we to say
(25:06):
you're lying?
You know what I mean?
It's just a different world tome and it's hard.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Yeah, I just don't want to discount the value.
I think there's a value forcertain people making those
connections and engagementsonline.
I think there are people thatcan take advantage of those
things.
Yes, absolutely, I would agreewith you, but I think there is a
lot of help to be, a lot ofrelational value that can be
(25:35):
found online.
There can be, I would agree.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
And I wish, I guess in a perfect world, that it
wasn't that way.
But I understand it Personallymyself.
I don't think that, it's justnot me but I'm not going to say
that it shouldn't happen to you,whoever you are right, Because
you're going to do you.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
You talked about the connection.
People can make connections indifferent ways.
It's that relationship, and howdo you build that into a
transformation rather than atransaction?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah, I think those were the words that you were
looking for last time.
Transactional versustransformational Right right.
We each have been involved inrelationships that have been
simply transactional.
Well you do for me and I'll dofor you.
But the real friendships thatlast long times, they're
transformational, they change usas we continue to walk with
(26:31):
each other through life.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Absolutely.
You know that might be a goodthing to end on, and next time
we'll talk a little bit moreabout friendship and talk about
maybe how our past colors ourfriendship as we move forward.
Half Century Hangout weappreciate all the people.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I have a quote.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Oh, we got to get a quote in.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I forgot about that Before we get there.
Can I just mention the wineglasses, oh yeah, yeah, the
whiskey glasses, the wineglasses.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, whiskey and beer mugs, right.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
We've got whiskey and beer mugs.
We've got beer mugs and whiskeyglasses that we've just gotten
in today and they've got ourlogo on them.
And here's what we want to do.
We want to share these with thepeople that listen to the half
century hangout, and here's howwe want to do that.
If you would share our nextepisode that we post on facebook
(27:30):
, instagram, tiktok or twitter,if you would share those, your
name will go into a pot and wewill give away three of these
different wine glass or, I'msorry, whiskey glasses and beer
mugs.
So if you want a beer mug, ifyou want a whiskey glass, share
(27:50):
our podcast as soon as it comesout on social media, tell
someone about it and we willmake sure that you get into that
.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
And they're great.
They're etched glass dishwashersafe dishwasher safe, high
quality.
My dishwasher will be happy tohear that.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
She'll be happy to hear that we'll post a picture
of them on on facebook soundsgreat, sounds great so the quote
that I have.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Memories with the right people will always remain
priceless.
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Which I know that the author of this one was unknown.
It's just been one that's beenpassed down for years, but I
know that a couple of our nextepisodes we're going to go into
some things that we'll touch onwith that.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I just kind of wanted to put the drop in that bucket
and move on.
Well, thanks again for hangingout with us here at Half Century
Hangout, and we'll see you nexttime on the podcast Peace out.
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