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SPEAKER_03 (02:05):
We were hanging out in Luke's garage and we had a
lot of fun.
Our conversation got long, so wesplit this episode up into two
parts.
Thanks for coming back andlistening to part two.
I hope you guys enjoy.
Peace out.
Yeah, so have you guys seen umthey've taken X-rays or some
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type of some type of uh scope ofthe ground underneath the um
pyramids.
Have you guys seen anythingabout this?
To where there's I rememberhearing it, but I don't remember
what they there's like levelssupposedly below the pyramids,
(02:47):
yeah, to where there's likereservoirs and all these
different types of things thatwould kind of maybe say that
this was designed by powersoutside of the knowledge of
people who existed at the timethat the pyramids were built.
Have you guys heard anythingabout that?
Yeah, I've I've heard stuffabout that.
What are your thoughts?
SPEAKER_00 (03:09):
I don't know.
Well, uh, are you talking aboutancient aliens, maybe?
Possibly, I don't know.
SPEAKER_04 (03:17):
It's super interesting.
This is one of the things that Ithink, and I've always thought
this is that I don't think thatwe have given to people of
ancient times credit for howsmart they damn were.
Yeah.
I mean, just the fact that lookat the pyramids.
SPEAKER_03 (03:36):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (03:36):
Oh my god, I've never been there.
It's it's on my list of thingsto go see someday.
So have you seen it in pictures?
You see things and you see thesethings, but it's like, you know
what?
I'm not gonna sit here and saythey really didn't have the
thought or the ability.
Like you think of those stonesthat they're moving, and they
didn't have you know stuff likewe have now, obviously.
(03:58):
This is manpower.
SPEAKER_03 (03:59):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (04:00):
Thousands of people of thousands of millions of
pounds of stone that they'removing, and below all of that
stuff that they built is thisseries of like reservoirs or
different theories there thatmaybe it could have been a power
plant, maybe it could have beenthis or that.
SPEAKER_04 (04:23):
I mean, there's there's a lot of I mean, you've
been over there, you've beenover to the Holy Land and you've
seen things and some historicalplaces that I've never been to,
but I've always thought I don'tknow that I'm going the alien
route yet, but I think that theyhad more knowledge and ability
that we give them credit for.
Yeah.
I really do, because it's Imean, look at look at ancient
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Egypt, look at Moses goingthrough the things that and I
realize it's Hollywood eyes,like you see it in the movies.
Sure.
It's different, but in the samebreath, look at the plagues,
like as they went through, theywere trying to defend against
these things, right?
Like you see this stuff, andlike today, like when I heard
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that thing, and I I do remembernow, like I'm I'm thinking as as
I'm going, maybe that was afallout shelter, maybe that was
something that they thought theywere going to be invaded, they
were gonna, they had they hadenemies, and they were building
something like under the eastwing.
Sorry, I didn't say that, butyou know what, under the east
wing, where there's a there's aplace, right?
Right, you know, yeah, whoknows?
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They still had the samethoughts, yeah.
You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03 (05:29):
So there's parts of the um Great Pyramids where
there's like the the particularpart of the pyramid points
directly north, south, east, andwest.
Yeah, yeah.
There's there's like thesedifferent things that exist um
among these pyramids that wouldsay that there's probably a
little bit more intelligentdesign that's um affected uh
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through through this, other thanwhat was available at the time.
So what have you heard aboutthat, John?
SPEAKER_00 (06:00):
Yeah, I I I've heard that uh, you know, I don't know.
I I do think that our ancestorswere pretty smart.
I think that we've got uh someinfluence, maybe sure from
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outside of our ancestors?
Who knows?
Yeah, I and uh I think that's agood mystery to to look at.
And there's there's evidence onboth sides of that that maybe it
was just human, maybe it wasoutside of human.
SPEAKER_03 (06:41):
Well, how did it how in the world are they supposed
to get these big, huge, major uhrocks from an area that was
hundreds of miles away fromwhere they were to where these
pyramids are being built?
Yeah, how in the world did thathappen?
SPEAKER_00 (07:01):
Well, and not only the pyramids, but there's other
places on earth that pyramidswere built.
SPEAKER_03 (07:11):
Well, there may be that too, but then then you
think of um what's the what'sthe um place over in England
where Stonehenge like there'snothing anywhere even close to
Stonehenge where these big rocksare like there's there's just
nothing there, so there's kindof like an the idea that these
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things were brought in hundredsof miles as well.
And what in the world did itmean to the particular people to
the people at that particulartime?
SPEAKER_04 (07:43):
Are we leaning toward the idea that you're
talking about some sort ofextraterrestrial?
SPEAKER_03 (07:50):
I don't I mean that dismiss it, sounds freaky, but
yeah.
It just seems Did you dismissit?
Miss what?
Do you dismiss it?
I don't dismiss it, no.
I don't I don't know if that'sthe uh if that's the answer, but
I don't dismiss that it couldn'tbe the answer, I guess.
SPEAKER_04 (08:10):
Yeah, I've always been one that I think growing up
was kind of always in the backof my head.
But I kind of think, and I'm notyou know throwing shade here, I
think, but I think that um my uhmy upbringing in the church kind
(08:33):
of squashed pushed that away alittle bit, yeah, yeah, which I
understand, like I get it, butin the same breath, I think that
now that I'm you know older andso much more mature than I was
then, way more mature.
Can I discount it?
No, I don't think I can discountit.
SPEAKER_03 (08:53):
I don't think you can dismiss it.
SPEAKER_04 (08:55):
Yeah.
I think that I think thatthere's a lot of things that
have gone unanswered andunexplained, you know, to the
point that there's gotta beanother explanation, which
sounds dumb.
But I think that pardon me,folks.
(09:18):
That was my torch, yes.
SPEAKER_03 (09:20):
Yes, making my uh making my uh making a smoked old
fashioned smoked old fashioned.
SPEAKER_04 (09:26):
Um I think that the you know we could segue into
that.
I mean, is that is thereevidence or is there
believability in theextraterrestrial?
Area 51.
Is there I mean, you know, whoknows if there is.
SPEAKER_00 (09:44):
I mean blue book, right?
I mean, that's another mystery.
You got uh the blue book.
What's blue book?
Oh, it's uh government agencythat that um looked into the
extraterrestrial.
Yeah.
And and looked into whetherUFOs, whether extraterrestrials
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were real, and um the air forceand yeah, I think that it's
cover things up, who knows?
SPEAKER_04 (10:16):
I don't know.
I think that there's there'sthere's a I hate to call it like
a conspiracy theory because Idon't know that when I think
conspiracy theory, you're tryingto cover something up, okay?
Right.
That's what I think in my headanyway.
But if there's something that,especially back then, I mean I
think it still happens now, butif there's something back then
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that the government that wasthere, the leaders that were
there thought that it washarmful for the public to know,
I don't know that necessarilycovered it up, they just didn't
say it.
You can't do that now becausenow somebody's gonna leak it,
somebody's gonna say something.
Sure.
Somebody's gonna be, you know,something, and it's just gonna
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happen.
But I so I do think that at thetime maybe people were really
afraid of those things.
SPEAKER_03 (11:04):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (11:05):
I mean, I'm not gonna speak for you two, but if
if I found out right now that,you know, in Ohio, because
that's probably where it wouldhappen, um, where a spaceship
landed, would I be reallyafraid?
I don't know that I would beafraid.
I'd be more like inquisitive.
Be like, what are they thinking?
(11:26):
You know, what's going on?
What's sure I and I think backthen that I think that it was a
lot of you know um melodrama, orthere was, you know, just things
happening where the the thedrama was built to the point
that oh my gosh, aliens.
Right.
Look at what was the movie withOrson Wells?
Um you know, with the with thealiens with the whole thing.
(11:48):
I forgot what the name of itwas.
But that's the kind of thingthat you you heard about.
Yeah, that you see.
What about Sasquatch?
What about him?
What about that?
SPEAKER_00 (11:58):
Who knows?
Washington State?
Is that is Sasquatch a realthing?
Gosh, that that's interesting tothink about, isn't it?
Luke, so Luke brought Sasquatchup.
Um is that yours too?
(12:22):
Me?
A true false?
SPEAKER_03 (12:25):
I don't know.
I've never really kind of boughtin the whole idea of Sasquatch.
Yeah, I've just never seen muchproof um of it.
But I what about Loch Ness?
SPEAKER_04 (12:39):
You know, it's kind of to me, those two are kind of
the one and the same.
Yeah.
You know, where do I think thatpeople saw stuff coming out of
the water class, cryptids?
Yeah, yeah.
Who we we don't have any proofnecessarily, but and I think
that I think that that's thething when we look at these
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things, and I don't always liketo do this, but I but I you have
to, I think, on some level, atleast to explain some of the
things as you go, is that youhave to determine when these
things took place initially,because the times are different,
it's completely different thanwhat they were even 20 years
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ago, let alone 40, 50 years ago.
I mean, I I don't know when theinitial Bigfoot or Sasquatch
sighting started or what yearthat was, I don't know.
But you know, I've I don't knowabout you, John, but I've been
in places in the woods or out inplaces that were kind of rural,
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if you want to say, and seenpeople walking that if you were
drinking enough, you couldmistake them for somebody.
You you could.
You could, you know, there's allsorts of things where there's
mind-altering drugs and allsorts of stuff that could have
happened where you might seesomething.
And I'm not trying to dismiss ifsomebody's a believer or not, or
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they saw something, but youknow, it's kind of like the UFO
thing.
You know, do you see thesethings and they tried to back it
off that it's weather balloonsor it's this or all these
different explanations that cameup?
SPEAKER_03 (14:16):
So here's what I know about some of that stuff.
If you guys ever go to Dayton,Ohio, uh in Dayton, listen help
me.
SPEAKER_02 (14:25):
God helped me.
Who grew up there?
Promised land, promised land.
SPEAKER_03 (14:29):
Anyway, there's a place called uh the Wright
Patterson Air Force Museum.
It's now been nicknamed theUnited States Air Force Museum
or renamed, I guess.
So in that place, there isactually a flying saucer that at
some point was experimental.
SPEAKER_02 (14:48):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (14:48):
And I'm wondering if some of these things that people
see when you hear about is justlike experimental.
Yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_04 (14:57):
Yeah, 100%.
I mean, look at how many times,even now, that you see in these
war things that we've had withIsrael and with all these, you
see all of a sudden there's anew aircraft.
Like somebody came, and like wedon't know these things day to
day, right?
We don't know these things, andit's okay because I got plenty
of other things to think about,right?
But you know darn well that atsome point they're testing these
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things, they have to.
100%.
Yeah, so they go through andthey figure it out, and so they
have to take it on test flights,or they have to do whatever they
have to do.
I mean, there's a lot ofexplanations that could be that
are very valid to me that wouldexplain, not explain it away,
but say, like, hey, this is areally good possibility that
this is what it was, or yeah,you know, something like that.
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Yes, I don't I don't fall awayfrom those things to see, and I
and even even Area 51, it waslike, do I think that something
was there?
I don't know, maybe an asteroidhit it.
I don't know.
It could be anything, yeah.
I mean, I love the movie TheThing, which is a great movie.
Have you ever seen that?
SPEAKER_03 (16:00):
Yeah, I have.
It's like did you see theoriginal?
Yeah, back in the 80s.
SPEAKER_04 (16:04):
Yeah, no, no, no, that's not the original.
The original was like in the60s.
SPEAKER_03 (16:08):
Oh, I didn't see that one.
SPEAKER_04 (16:09):
Black and white.
Oh, it's great.
And and and the the remake inthe 80s is wonderful, don't get
me wrong.
Sure.
Kurt Russell in it and all that.
Sure.
But the idea is that they werethe ones they were in Antarctica
or one of the polar ice gaps,and the whole thing was in the
ice and all that stuff.
Like it was great because itjust kind of built this whole
thing.
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And do you think yeah, do youthink for a moment that that's
not possible?
Yeah, the stuff could be hittingthe earth since who knows when.
SPEAKER_00 (16:38):
Yeah, who knows when we've kind of come to this with
a lot of our communication,right?
With television, with uh movies,with in the last century or so.
And a lot of that thought hascome about because of that.
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Is it because maybe we arelooking for those things?
We're curious about them, andwe're saying, ah, maybe it could
have been aliens, maybe it couldhave been demons, maybe it could
have been the mob, yeah,whatever, yeah, and we're
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saying, oh, all this stuff isbrought to us by maybe the
history channel, or the media,whatever it is, I mean and we're
like, huh.
I'm theory.
(17:46):
There's a theory that uh you goout to buy a car, you're looking
for a car, you're looking for ared Honda, you start seeing a
lot of red Hondas that peopleare driving.
SPEAKER_03 (17:57):
That's interesting.
SPEAKER_00 (17:59):
And so is it because people are bringing it to us
that we're gonna do that?
SPEAKER_04 (18:05):
Well, we already know now we know now that they
have things algorithms.
Algorithms, yeah.
If you're talking about redHondas, your marketplace is
gonna get red hondas.
Yeah.
If you're looking for, you know,where did we land on the nail
salons?
SPEAKER_03 (18:24):
Where do we land on the Sasquatch?
SPEAKER_04 (18:26):
Where do we land?
SPEAKER_03 (18:27):
Yeah, do we land anywhere?
SPEAKER_04 (18:29):
So I don't know.
I he's in the spaceship.
I don't really have one withhim.
I I don't really have one withyeah, it could be her.
I don't know.
I I don't I never thought thatone had as much legs.
Yeah, I didn't.
I mean, I think that people thatone's hard to prove.
Yeah, people see stuff, and Iand I get it.
People see stuff.
I mean, shit happens.
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Yeah, it just does.
I mean, yeah, you've beenplaces, we've all been places
where it's like explicit.
Something really captain.
I know something happens, andyou're like, holy crap, I didn't
think that was gonna happen.
Yeah, so that could be.
I mean, there's a lot of thingsthat that happen in our world.
SPEAKER_00 (19:07):
So so think about this.
SPEAKER_04 (19:09):
Oh, John's on the roll.
SPEAKER_00 (19:10):
This is still John here.
Um things happen in our world.
Are we living in a matrix?
Are we living?
Oh, we went the matrix.
I was gonna do this.
SPEAKER_04 (19:21):
I was gonna do this, but I didn't.
But John did, so I feel betterabout it.
SPEAKER_00 (19:26):
So are we living in a computer generated simulation?
And you know what?
It's amazing, and I didn't knowthis, but there are some
physicists who are trying toprove that we're living in a
computer-generated simulation.
SPEAKER_03 (19:49):
So basically, we are um just a digital production.
SPEAKER_04 (19:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and does it those aregreat movies that by the way?
I love those.
SPEAKER_00 (20:01):
Oh, great movies.
The war what Warcheski Brothers?
SPEAKER_04 (20:05):
Yes, I can't remember.
I think so.
Yeah, I think that it's I thinkit's an interesting concept.
SPEAKER_00 (20:11):
It is because it is because I think that's you ever
woke up from a deep sleep andsaid, Oh my gosh, was this a
dream or was this reality?
Which one was it?
Like, like am I chasing thewhite rabbit or not?
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Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
I feel weird.
SPEAKER_03 (20:37):
I don't I would be quicker to dismiss something
like that just because I don'tknow.
I don't, I don't know, I don'tsee much validation.
SPEAKER_04 (20:49):
But see, I think I think what the thing is, and I
think I mentioned it before,yeah, and I can only speak for
myself, but I'm gonna, you know,try to throw it your way and
John your way too, is that Ithink we've been taught to think
a certain way.
Especially if you have religionin your in your life, okay, that
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this is why this happens, andthis is what this is, and this
is what's gonna happen, andthese whole things.
And you've been you've just beenbrought up that way.
Program, maybe.
Yeah, I don't want to go thatway because that's a little
that's a little matrix-y, yeah,but but sort of, there you go.
Yeah, there you go.
You know, you've been, I don'twant to use that other word
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either.
I was thinking of just acomputer.
What were you thinking of?
The G word.
No, I don't want to say groomed,I don't want to say that.
Oh, yeah, no, no, no.
But you're kind of like you'vebeen brought up this way, you've
been taught this way, you'velearned things this way.
Yeah.
Like we see this with kids allthe time, right?
You see it with kids 100%.
But if they are, if they aretraumatized somehow in their
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younger life or their familywas, they think a certain way.
Like our thoughts and ourfeelings are drawn by our
upbringing.
Sure.
Whether we like it or not.
It just is just the way that itis.
So when that movie comes out andit brings out this thing, like
we're just a we're a blip in aprogram.
Right.
And really, this is kind of theway that things are going.
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And it makes you think like,huh.
And all of a sudden you start tothink of, well, I remember when
that happened, or I rememberwhen that happened.
Yeah.
Maybe that's drawing me likethis.
You know, who knows?
Think think about how much,think about how much influence.
Now, again, I'll speak formyself is that how much
influence people that are gone,people that have died, how much
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influence they still have onyour life.
It's kind of an amazing conceptif you think about it, because
it's like, well, are you livingin the past?
I don't want to say you'reliving in the past, but the
lessons that you think that youlearned or the things, the
things that were presented toyou, they still have an effect
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on my day-to-day life.
Yeah.
That lends itself to that ideathat guess what?
The matrix kind of refreshes thememory as it goes, right?
But it's still here, it's stillbased there.
It's a it's an interesting one.
Right.
It is.
I'm not sold, but it's it'sinteresting one.
SPEAKER_00 (23:21):
We have generations that happen, and it kind of does
cycle, right?
SPEAKER_04 (23:25):
It does.
SPEAKER_00 (23:26):
Generations cycle, and you grow up with this
generation, and then you haveanother generation that grows up
a little different, and it kindof does cycle through.
SPEAKER_03 (23:39):
It does, and it's interesting to me because as
I've like as I think of uh myphilosophy classes throughout
college or whatever, and youlook at um nihilism.
I don't know if you guys knowwhat nihilism is.
Yeah, but nihilism is thatunderstanding that things kind
of um they're for no reason orthey kind of end.
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Um this kind of promotes thatidea of nihilism, in my in my
opinion, that all these thingsexist because of this belief
that things don't really matter.
SPEAKER_04 (24:17):
Well, it's I think, therefore I am.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's philosophy.
That's like the whole idea.
And it's like, okay, so if we'rethink that's why that's what I
always went back to when we weretalking about the pyramids and
stuff, is that you know whatpeople's thought, I don't think
that the mind itself has changedfrom what it was in ancient
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times.
People were still people, humansare still humans, they're there.
They had the ability to thinkoutside the box.
Right.
So outside the box is a pyramid,right?
I mean, they think I I justdon't think I I I always feel
like we were, we've always beentaught that we're like the
epitome, the apex.
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And and that was when we were20.
Right.
Now we're half century.
SPEAKER_03 (25:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (25:08):
And now we are.
No, we're not.
No, we're still not.
But I don't know that it'snecessarily our minds that are
changing, it's just the abilityto do all these other things
based on technology or based onall this other stuff that nobody
would have thought of back then.
Right.
I think the mind is still thesame.
I don't think that it'schanging, I don't think it's
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evolving to the point ofwhatever it is.
So I don't know.
I think that uh if you get achance, I know I just said the
word evolving, which I don'tusually say that word, but um
those of you that are the sameage as we are, you remember the
band Devo?
SPEAKER_00 (25:49):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (25:50):
Yeah, you know, step on a crack, break your mama's
back.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Great, great, excellentdocumentary.
Look it up.
I think it's on Netflix.
I think I can't remember whatservice it was on.
But do you know what Devo wasfor?
What was de-evolutionizing.
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Oh, and they were at like KentState in the 60s, like that
political underground.
Oh my gosh, it's eye-opening.
So good.
And I thought it fit well intothis episode just because it it
just opens your mind tosomething else, to another
possibility of some things thatare going on.
And like David Bowie's influenceon incredible, absolutely
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incredible, and it's cool stuff,but I think for us, it's like
that's one more thing to say,hey, I can broaden my mind, I
can open my eyes to somethingelse, yeah, and be like, hey,
you know, if nothing else, itkeeps your mind going.
And at our age, that's a goodthing because you know, we don't
want to.
SPEAKER_03 (26:50):
Yeah, at the end of the day, at the end of the day,
for me, I would have to havesome type of um like proof.
I don't know, proof is not theright word, validation, some
type of something that would saythis this makes sense.
So, like I trust that that umyou know you talked about church
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stuff, right?
And to me, that's kind of wheremy worldview starts is that God
created a world and that uhanything that exists is because
of him.
SPEAKER_04 (27:28):
Sure.
SPEAKER_03 (27:30):
So when you think of um aliens or conspiracies or
whatever, there would have to besome type of conflict or some
type of validation that thisexists because God says this
exists.
SPEAKER_00 (27:47):
Well, and I think I think what you gotta look what
you're saying is you gotta lookat both sides.
Yeah, you gotta look at thearguments for, and you gotta
look at the arguments against,yeah, which do happen, and there
are people who argue for uhalternate reality or whatever it
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is, yeah, uh people who argueagainst that, people who argue
for UFOs and and ancient aliensand whatever it is, and people
who argue against that,Sasquatch, against even Jimmy
Hoffa.
There are theories there fordifferent things, yeah.
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So you gotta look at both.
SPEAKER_04 (28:38):
Like as I was talking about the mind, and I
don't know that it's changed theactual mind itself over the over
the thousands of years, right?
Do you think that they hadtheories back then?
Of course they did, of course,because it's human curiosity
that something happened becauseof this, or something's going to
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happen because this ishappening.
There's always going to be that.
There always has been that, Ithink.
Yeah.
I think it's completely normalthat with our current state of
the world, that it lends itselfbecause of that information that
we get almost instantly.
(29:22):
Yeah.
Which actually kind of drives menuts, to be honest with you.
It does.
Because you know what?
I think that too many times weget our information from
somebody or someplace orsomething that's already formed
an opinion, they're just feedingthat to us.
Yeah.
It's like propaganda, right?
It's like coming out of anairplane.
There the Germans are bombingand they're dropping leaflets.
(29:43):
Yeah.
It's propaganda.
And I think that too many times,and we see this in education,
that I think that we havelessened what we almost feel
like our kids can do or what wecan handle because of what we're
fed, what we're giving to themand what they say.
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I mean, you've hadconversations, we all have, with
kids in our office and saying,like, so what are you thinking
here?
And they'll tell you something,and you're like, Well, that's a
great way to think about it.
Like, I hear you, like Iunderstand you, but this is
where our reality is.
This is where we're at rightnow.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
And I think that reality pieceis where this whole conversation
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falls a little bit because wehave to be able to still ground
ourselves in reality.
SPEAKER_03 (30:30):
I think reality is a a good word to kind of key in on
because there are so there's somuch speculation with um what we
think that we gotta look at whatreality is and what's what's
been proven over the course ofof time.
(30:53):
And so none of these things thatlike Sasquash, it's not really
ever been proven.
What is reality, Chuck?
Re what is reality?
Honestly, that's a greatquestion.
SPEAKER_04 (31:04):
Maybe that's the next episode.
That might be what is reality,reality.
Yeah, because I think you hitthe nail on the head as I think
that really all these things arebased around that same idea.
What is reality?
What is real?
What isn't real, or even whatcould be argued that is real?
You know what I mean?
Yep.
And I hate to use the wordargued because I think now
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especially it has a realnegative term.
Like we can't disagree withoutarguing and being negative.
But I think that that would lendus to our next episode, which
would be what do we thinkreality really means and what is
it?
That's what I think.
All right.
SPEAKER_00 (31:41):
So if you have some uh maybe reality, what what is
the truth?
Yeah.
It's like the X Files.
SPEAKER_04 (31:49):
So if you have some I love the X Files.
SPEAKER_03 (31:52):
That's great.
So if you have some questions orif you have some suggestions as
to what reality, like what youthink, um hook into or go into
our our Facebook page.
Yeah, give us some uh What isthat page page again?
It's um half century hangout.
That's it.
Half century hangout onFacebook.
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You can find us anyway.
We're on TikTok.
We're worldwide.
SPEAKER_00 (32:17):
TikTok.
SPEAKER_03 (32:18):
Yep.
I've never been on Twitter.
We're on Facebook.
Is that real?
Instagram.
SPEAKER_00 (32:23):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (32:23):
Yeah.
Incredible.
Cool.
So if you have some suggestionson where you want to go with
this, please reach out.
And uh we'll.
SPEAKER_04 (32:29):
Gentlemen, I love today.
Today was a great day.
It was a great day.
Super great day.
Super great day.
And you know what?
That's all we gotta.
We all just gotta hang out andjust blow a little steam off.
We hope that's what you do whenyou listen.
SPEAKER_00 (32:43):
It's good to spend time in Luke's garage.
Yep, and we will be back nextweek, right?
We will.
Next week.
Rock and roll.
We're there.
SPEAKER_04 (32:52):
Peace out.
Go blue.
We were hanging out in Luke's garage and we had a
lot of fun.
Our conversation got long, so wesplit this episode up into two
parts.
Thanks for coming back andlistening to part two.
I hope you guys enjoy.
Peace out.
Yeah, so have you guys seen umthey've taken X-rays or some
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type of some type of uh scope ofthe ground underneath the um
pyramids.
Have you guys seen anythingabout this?
To where there's I rememberhearing it, but I don't remember
what they there's like levelssupposedly below the pyramids,
(02:47):
yeah, to where there's likereservoirs and all these
different types of things thatwould kind of maybe say that
this was designed by powersoutside of the knowledge of
people who existed at the timethat the pyramids were built.
Have you guys heard anythingabout that?
Yeah, I've I've heard stuffabout that.
What are your thoughts?
SPEAKER_00 (03:09):
I don't know.
Well, uh, are you talking aboutancient aliens, maybe?
Possibly, I don't know.
SPEAKER_04 (03:17):
It's super interesting.
This is one of the things that Ithink, and I've always thought
this is that I don't think thatwe have given to people of
ancient times credit for howsmart they damn were.
Yeah.
I mean, just the fact that lookat the pyramids.
SPEAKER_03 (03:36):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (03:36):
Oh my god, I've never been there.
It's it's on my list of thingsto go see someday.
So have you seen it in pictures?
You see things and you see thesethings, but it's like, you know
what?
I'm not gonna sit here and saythey really didn't have the
thought or the ability.
Like you think of those stonesthat they're moving, and they
didn't have you know stuff likewe have now, obviously.
(03:58):
This is manpower.
SPEAKER_03 (03:59):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (04:00):
Thousands of people of thousands of millions of
pounds of stone that they'removing, and below all of that
stuff that they built is thisseries of like reservoirs or
different theories there thatmaybe it could have been a power
plant, maybe it could have beenthis or that.
SPEAKER_04 (04:23):
I mean, there's there's a lot of I mean, you've
been over there, you've beenover to the Holy Land and you've
seen things and some historicalplaces that I've never been to,
but I've always thought I don'tknow that I'm going the alien
route yet, but I think that theyhad more knowledge and ability
that we give them credit for.
Yeah.
I really do, because it's Imean, look at look at ancient
(04:46):
Egypt, look at Moses goingthrough the things that and I
realize it's Hollywood eyes,like you see it in the movies.
Sure.
It's different, but in the samebreath, look at the plagues,
like as they went through, theywere trying to defend against
these things, right?
Like you see this stuff, andlike today, like when I heard
(05:07):
that thing, and I I do remembernow, like I'm I'm thinking as as
I'm going, maybe that was afallout shelter, maybe that was
something that they thought theywere going to be invaded, they
were gonna, they had they hadenemies, and they were building
something like under the eastwing.
Sorry, I didn't say that, butyou know what, under the east
wing, where there's a there's aplace, right?
Right, you know, yeah, whoknows?
(05:27):
They still had the samethoughts, yeah.
You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03 (05:29):
So there's parts of the um Great Pyramids where
there's like the the particularpart of the pyramid points
directly north, south, east, andwest.
Yeah, yeah.
There's there's like thesedifferent things that exist um
among these pyramids that wouldsay that there's probably a
little bit more intelligentdesign that's um affected uh
(05:54):
through through this, other thanwhat was available at the time.
So what have you heard aboutthat, John?
SPEAKER_00 (06:00):
Yeah, I I I've heard that uh, you know, I don't know.
I I do think that our ancestorswere pretty smart.
I think that we've got uh someinfluence, maybe sure from
(06:21):
outside of our ancestors?
Who knows?
Yeah, I and uh I think that's agood mystery to to look at.
And there's there's evidence onboth sides of that that maybe it
was just human, maybe it wasoutside of human.
SPEAKER_03 (06:41):
Well, how did it how in the world are they supposed
to get these big, huge, major uhrocks from an area that was
hundreds of miles away fromwhere they were to where these
pyramids are being built?
Yeah, how in the world did thathappen?
SPEAKER_00 (07:01):
Well, and not only the pyramids, but there's other
places on earth that pyramidswere built.
SPEAKER_03 (07:11):
Well, there may be that too, but then then you
think of um what's the what'sthe um place over in England
where Stonehenge like there'snothing anywhere even close to
Stonehenge where these big rocksare like there's there's just
nothing there, so there's kindof like an the idea that these
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things were brought in hundredsof miles as well.
And what in the world did itmean to the particular people to
the people at that particulartime?
SPEAKER_04 (07:43):
Are we leaning toward the idea that you're
talking about some sort ofextraterrestrial?
SPEAKER_03 (07:50):
I don't I mean that dismiss it, sounds freaky, but
yeah.
It just seems Did you dismissit?
Miss what?
Do you dismiss it?
I don't dismiss it, no.
I don't I don't know if that'sthe uh if that's the answer, but
I don't dismiss that it couldn'tbe the answer, I guess.
SPEAKER_04 (08:10):
Yeah, I've always been one that I think growing up
was kind of always in the backof my head.
But I kind of think, and I'm notyou know throwing shade here, I
think, but I think that um my uhmy upbringing in the church kind
(08:33):
of squashed pushed that away alittle bit, yeah, yeah, which I
understand, like I get it, butin the same breath, I think that
now that I'm you know older andso much more mature than I was
then, way more mature.
Can I discount it?
No, I don't think I can discountit.
SPEAKER_03 (08:53):
I don't think you can dismiss it.
SPEAKER_04 (08:55):
Yeah.
I think that I think thatthere's a lot of things that
have gone unanswered andunexplained, you know, to the
point that there's gotta beanother explanation, which
sounds dumb.
But I think that pardon me,folks.
(09:18):
That was my torch, yes.
SPEAKER_03 (09:20):
Yes, making my uh making my uh making a smoked old
fashioned smoked old fashioned.
SPEAKER_04 (09:26):
Um I think that the you know we could segue into
that.
I mean, is that is thereevidence or is there
believability in theextraterrestrial?
Area 51.
Is there I mean, you know, whoknows if there is.
SPEAKER_00 (09:44):
I mean blue book, right?
I mean, that's another mystery.
You got uh the blue book.
What's blue book?
Oh, it's uh government agencythat that um looked into the
extraterrestrial.
Yeah.
And and looked into whetherUFOs, whether extraterrestrials
(10:07):
were real, and um the air forceand yeah, I think that it's
cover things up, who knows?
SPEAKER_04 (10:16):
I don't know.
I think that there's there'sthere's a I hate to call it like
a conspiracy theory because Idon't know that when I think
conspiracy theory, you're tryingto cover something up, okay?
Right.
That's what I think in my headanyway.
But if there's something that,especially back then, I mean I
think it still happens now, butif there's something back then
(10:37):
that the government that wasthere, the leaders that were
there thought that it washarmful for the public to know,
I don't know that necessarilycovered it up, they just didn't
say it.
You can't do that now becausenow somebody's gonna leak it,
somebody's gonna say something.
Sure.
Somebody's gonna be, you know,something, and it's just gonna
(10:58):
happen.
But I so I do think that at thetime maybe people were really
afraid of those things.
SPEAKER_03 (11:04):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (11:05):
I mean, I'm not gonna speak for you two, but if
if I found out right now that,you know, in Ohio, because
that's probably where it wouldhappen, um, where a spaceship
landed, would I be reallyafraid?
I don't know that I would beafraid.
I'd be more like inquisitive.
Be like, what are they thinking?
(11:26):
You know, what's going on?
What's sure I and I think backthen that I think that it was a
lot of you know um melodrama, orthere was, you know, just things
happening where the the thedrama was built to the point
that oh my gosh, aliens.
Right.
Look at what was the movie withOrson Wells?
Um you know, with the with thealiens with the whole thing.
(11:48):
I forgot what the name of itwas.
But that's the kind of thingthat you you heard about.
Yeah, that you see.
What about Sasquatch?
What about him?
What about that?
SPEAKER_00 (11:58):
Who knows?
Washington State?
Is that is Sasquatch a realthing?
Gosh, that that's interesting tothink about, isn't it?
Luke, so Luke brought Sasquatchup.
Um is that yours too?
(12:22):
Me?
A true false?
SPEAKER_03 (12:25):
I don't know.
I've never really kind of boughtin the whole idea of Sasquatch.
Yeah, I've just never seen muchproof um of it.
But I what about Loch Ness?
SPEAKER_04 (12:39):
You know, it's kind of to me, those two are kind of
the one and the same.
Yeah.
You know, where do I think thatpeople saw stuff coming out of
the water class, cryptids?
Yeah, yeah.
Who we we don't have any proofnecessarily, but and I think
that I think that that's thething when we look at these
(13:00):
things, and I don't always liketo do this, but I but I you have
to, I think, on some level, atleast to explain some of the
things as you go, is that youhave to determine when these
things took place initially,because the times are different,
it's completely different thanwhat they were even 20 years
(13:22):
ago, let alone 40, 50 years ago.
I mean, I I don't know when theinitial Bigfoot or Sasquatch
sighting started or what yearthat was, I don't know.
But you know, I've I don't knowabout you, John, but I've been
in places in the woods or out inplaces that were kind of rural,
(13:42):
if you want to say, and seenpeople walking that if you were
drinking enough, you couldmistake them for somebody.
You you could.
You could, you know, there's allsorts of things where there's
mind-altering drugs and allsorts of stuff that could have
happened where you might seesomething.
And I'm not trying to dismiss ifsomebody's a believer or not, or
(14:02):
they saw something, but youknow, it's kind of like the UFO
thing.
You know, do you see thesethings and they tried to back it
off that it's weather balloonsor it's this or all these
different explanations that cameup?
SPEAKER_03 (14:16):
So here's what I know about some of that stuff.
If you guys ever go to Dayton,Ohio, uh in Dayton, listen help
me.
SPEAKER_02 (14:25):
God helped me.
Who grew up there?
Promised land, promised land.
SPEAKER_03 (14:29):
Anyway, there's a place called uh the Wright
Patterson Air Force Museum.
It's now been nicknamed theUnited States Air Force Museum
or renamed, I guess.
So in that place, there isactually a flying saucer that at
some point was experimental.
SPEAKER_02 (14:48):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (14:48):
And I'm wondering if some of these things that people
see when you hear about is justlike experimental.
Yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_04 (14:57):
Yeah, 100%.
I mean, look at how many times,even now, that you see in these
war things that we've had withIsrael and with all these, you
see all of a sudden there's anew aircraft.
Like somebody came, and like wedon't know these things day to
day, right?
We don't know these things, andit's okay because I got plenty
of other things to think about,right?
But you know darn well that atsome point they're testing these
(15:20):
things, they have to.
100%.
Yeah, so they go through andthey figure it out, and so they
have to take it on test flights,or they have to do whatever they
have to do.
I mean, there's a lot ofexplanations that could be that
are very valid to me that wouldexplain, not explain it away,
but say, like, hey, this is areally good possibility that
this is what it was, or yeah,you know, something like that.
(15:41):
Yes, I don't I don't fall awayfrom those things to see, and I
and even even Area 51, it waslike, do I think that something
was there?
I don't know, maybe an asteroidhit it.
I don't know.
It could be anything, yeah.
I mean, I love the movie TheThing, which is a great movie.
Have you ever seen that?
SPEAKER_03 (16:00):
Yeah, I have.
It's like did you see theoriginal?
Yeah, back in the 80s.
SPEAKER_04 (16:04):
Yeah, no, no, no, that's not the original.
The original was like in the60s.
SPEAKER_03 (16:08):
Oh, I didn't see that one.
SPEAKER_04 (16:09):
Black and white.
Oh, it's great.
And and and the the remake inthe 80s is wonderful, don't get
me wrong.
Sure.
Kurt Russell in it and all that.
Sure.
But the idea is that they werethe ones they were in Antarctica
or one of the polar ice gaps,and the whole thing was in the
ice and all that stuff.
Like it was great because itjust kind of built this whole
thing.
(16:29):
And do you think yeah, do youthink for a moment that that's
not possible?
Yeah, the stuff could be hittingthe earth since who knows when.
SPEAKER_00 (16:38):
Yeah, who knows when we've kind of come to this with
a lot of our communication,right?
With television, with uh movies,with in the last century or so.
And a lot of that thought hascome about because of that.
(17:03):
Is it because maybe we arelooking for those things?
We're curious about them, andwe're saying, ah, maybe it could
have been aliens, maybe it couldhave been demons, maybe it could
have been the mob, yeah,whatever, yeah, and we're
(17:25):
saying, oh, all this stuff isbrought to us by maybe the
history channel, or the media,whatever it is, I mean and we're
like, huh.
I'm theory.
(17:46):
There's a theory that uh you goout to buy a car, you're looking
for a car, you're looking for ared Honda, you start seeing a
lot of red Hondas that peopleare driving.
SPEAKER_03 (17:57):
That's interesting.
SPEAKER_00 (17:59):
And so is it because people are bringing it to us
that we're gonna do that?
SPEAKER_04 (18:05):
Well, we already know now we know now that they
have things algorithms.
Algorithms, yeah.
If you're talking about redHondas, your marketplace is
gonna get red hondas.
Yeah.
If you're looking for, you know,where did we land on the nail
salons?
SPEAKER_03 (18:24):
Where do we land on the Sasquatch?
SPEAKER_04 (18:26):
Where do we land?
SPEAKER_03 (18:27):
Yeah, do we land anywhere?
SPEAKER_04 (18:29):
So I don't know.
I he's in the spaceship.
I don't really have one withhim.
I I don't really have one withyeah, it could be her.
I don't know.
I I don't I never thought thatone had as much legs.
Yeah, I didn't.
I mean, I think that people thatone's hard to prove.
Yeah, people see stuff, and Iand I get it.
People see stuff.
I mean, shit happens.
(18:50):
Yeah, it just does.
I mean, yeah, you've beenplaces, we've all been places
where it's like explicit.
Something really captain.
I know something happens, andyou're like, holy crap, I didn't
think that was gonna happen.
Yeah, so that could be.
I mean, there's a lot of thingsthat that happen in our world.
SPEAKER_00 (19:07):
So so think about this.
SPEAKER_04 (19:09):
Oh, John's on the roll.
SPEAKER_00 (19:10):
This is still John here.
Um things happen in our world.
Are we living in a matrix?
Are we living?
Oh, we went the matrix.
I was gonna do this.
SPEAKER_04 (19:21):
I was gonna do this, but I didn't.
But John did, so I feel betterabout it.
SPEAKER_00 (19:26):
So are we living in a computer generated simulation?
And you know what?
It's amazing, and I didn't knowthis, but there are some
physicists who are trying toprove that we're living in a
computer-generated simulation.
SPEAKER_03 (19:49):
So basically, we are um just a digital production.
SPEAKER_04 (19:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and does it those aregreat movies that by the way?
I love those.
SPEAKER_00 (20:01):
Oh, great movies.
The war what Warcheski Brothers?
SPEAKER_04 (20:05):
Yes, I can't remember.
I think so.
Yeah, I think that it's I thinkit's an interesting concept.
SPEAKER_00 (20:11):
It is because it is because I think that's you ever
woke up from a deep sleep andsaid, Oh my gosh, was this a
dream or was this reality?
Which one was it?
Like, like am I chasing thewhite rabbit or not?
(20:32):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
I feel weird.
SPEAKER_03 (20:37):
I don't I would be quicker to dismiss something
like that just because I don'tknow.
I don't, I don't know, I don'tsee much validation.
SPEAKER_04 (20:49):
But see, I think I think what the thing is, and I
think I mentioned it before,yeah, and I can only speak for
myself, but I'm gonna, you know,try to throw it your way and
John your way too, is that Ithink we've been taught to think
a certain way.
Especially if you have religionin your in your life, okay, that
(21:13):
this is why this happens, andthis is what this is, and this
is what's gonna happen, andthese whole things.
And you've been you've just beenbrought up that way.
Program, maybe.
Yeah, I don't want to go thatway because that's a little
that's a little matrix-y, yeah,but but sort of, there you go.
Yeah, there you go.
You know, you've been, I don'twant to use that other word
(21:34):
either.
I was thinking of just acomputer.
What were you thinking of?
The G word.
No, I don't want to say groomed,I don't want to say that.
Oh, yeah, no, no, no.
But you're kind of like you'vebeen brought up this way, you've
been taught this way, you'velearned things this way.
Yeah.
Like we see this with kids allthe time, right?
You see it with kids 100%.
But if they are, if they aretraumatized somehow in their
(21:59):
younger life or their familywas, they think a certain way.
Like our thoughts and ourfeelings are drawn by our
upbringing.
Sure.
Whether we like it or not.
It just is just the way that itis.
So when that movie comes out andit brings out this thing, like
we're just a we're a blip in aprogram.
Right.
And really, this is kind of theway that things are going.
(22:22):
And it makes you think like,huh.
And all of a sudden you start tothink of, well, I remember when
that happened, or I rememberwhen that happened.
Yeah.
Maybe that's drawing me likethis.
You know, who knows?
Think think about how much,think about how much influence.
Now, again, I'll speak formyself is that how much
influence people that are gone,people that have died, how much
(22:43):
influence they still have onyour life.
It's kind of an amazing conceptif you think about it, because
it's like, well, are you livingin the past?
I don't want to say you'reliving in the past, but the
lessons that you think that youlearned or the things, the
things that were presented toyou, they still have an effect
(23:04):
on my day-to-day life.
Yeah.
That lends itself to that ideathat guess what?
The matrix kind of refreshes thememory as it goes, right?
But it's still here, it's stillbased there.
It's a it's an interesting one.
Right.
It is.
I'm not sold, but it's it'sinteresting one.
SPEAKER_00 (23:21):
We have generations that happen, and it kind of does
cycle, right?
SPEAKER_04 (23:25):
It does.
SPEAKER_00 (23:26):
Generations cycle, and you grow up with this
generation, and then you haveanother generation that grows up
a little different, and it kindof does cycle through.
SPEAKER_03 (23:39):
It does, and it's interesting to me because as
I've like as I think of uh myphilosophy classes throughout
college or whatever, and youlook at um nihilism.
I don't know if you guys knowwhat nihilism is.
Yeah, but nihilism is thatunderstanding that things kind
of um they're for no reason orthey kind of end.
(24:01):
Um this kind of promotes thatidea of nihilism, in my in my
opinion, that all these thingsexist because of this belief
that things don't really matter.
SPEAKER_04 (24:17):
Well, it's I think, therefore I am.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's philosophy.
That's like the whole idea.
And it's like, okay, so if we'rethink that's why that's what I
always went back to when we weretalking about the pyramids and
stuff, is that you know whatpeople's thought, I don't think
that the mind itself has changedfrom what it was in ancient
(24:39):
times.
People were still people, humansare still humans, they're there.
They had the ability to thinkoutside the box.
Right.
So outside the box is a pyramid,right?
I mean, they think I I justdon't think I I I always feel
like we were, we've always beentaught that we're like the
epitome, the apex.
(25:02):
And and that was when we were20.
Right.
Now we're half century.
SPEAKER_03 (25:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (25:08):
And now we are.
No, we're not.
No, we're still not.
But I don't know that it'snecessarily our minds that are
changing, it's just the abilityto do all these other things
based on technology or based onall this other stuff that nobody
would have thought of back then.
Right.
I think the mind is still thesame.
I don't think that it'schanging, I don't think it's
(25:30):
evolving to the point ofwhatever it is.
So I don't know.
I think that uh if you get achance, I know I just said the
word evolving, which I don'tusually say that word, but um
those of you that are the sameage as we are, you remember the
band Devo?
SPEAKER_00 (25:49):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (25:50):
Yeah, you know, step on a crack, break your mama's
back.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Great, great, excellentdocumentary.
Look it up.
I think it's on Netflix.
I think I can't remember whatservice it was on.
But do you know what Devo wasfor?
What was de-evolutionizing.
(26:12):
Oh, and they were at like KentState in the 60s, like that
political underground.
Oh my gosh, it's eye-opening.
So good.
And I thought it fit well intothis episode just because it it
just opens your mind tosomething else, to another
possibility of some things thatare going on.
And like David Bowie's influenceon incredible, absolutely
(26:34):
incredible, and it's cool stuff,but I think for us, it's like
that's one more thing to say,hey, I can broaden my mind, I
can open my eyes to somethingelse, yeah, and be like, hey,
you know, if nothing else, itkeeps your mind going.
And at our age, that's a goodthing because you know, we don't
want to.
SPEAKER_03 (26:50):
Yeah, at the end of the day, at the end of the day,
for me, I would have to havesome type of um like proof.
I don't know, proof is not theright word, validation, some
type of something that would saythis this makes sense.
So, like I trust that that umyou know you talked about church
(27:16):
stuff, right?
And to me, that's kind of wheremy worldview starts is that God
created a world and that uhanything that exists is because
of him.
SPEAKER_04 (27:28):
Sure.
SPEAKER_03 (27:30):
So when you think of um aliens or conspiracies or
whatever, there would have to besome type of conflict or some
type of validation that thisexists because God says this
exists.
SPEAKER_00 (27:47):
Well, and I think I think what you gotta look what
you're saying is you gotta lookat both sides.
Yeah, you gotta look at thearguments for, and you gotta
look at the arguments against,yeah, which do happen, and there
are people who argue for uhalternate reality or whatever it
(28:12):
is, yeah, uh people who argueagainst that, people who argue
for UFOs and and ancient aliensand whatever it is, and people
who argue against that,Sasquatch, against even Jimmy
Hoffa.
There are theories there fordifferent things, yeah.
(28:35):
So you gotta look at both.
SPEAKER_04 (28:38):
Like as I was talking about the mind, and I
don't know that it's changed theactual mind itself over the over
the thousands of years, right?
Do you think that they hadtheories back then?
Of course they did, of course,because it's human curiosity
that something happened becauseof this, or something's going to
(29:00):
happen because this ishappening.
There's always going to be that.
There always has been that, Ithink.
Yeah.
I think it's completely normalthat with our current state of
the world, that it lends itselfbecause of that information that
we get almost instantly.
(29:22):
Yeah.
Which actually kind of drives menuts, to be honest with you.
It does.
Because you know what?
I think that too many times weget our information from
somebody or someplace orsomething that's already formed
an opinion, they're just feedingthat to us.
Yeah.
It's like propaganda, right?
It's like coming out of anairplane.
There the Germans are bombingand they're dropping leaflets.
(29:43):
Yeah.
It's propaganda.
And I think that too many times,and we see this in education,
that I think that we havelessened what we almost feel
like our kids can do or what wecan handle because of what we're
fed, what we're giving to themand what they say.
(30:03):
I mean, you've hadconversations, we all have, with
kids in our office and saying,like, so what are you thinking
here?
And they'll tell you something,and you're like, Well, that's a
great way to think about it.
Like, I hear you, like Iunderstand you, but this is
where our reality is.
This is where we're at rightnow.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
And I think that reality pieceis where this whole conversation
(30:24):
falls a little bit because wehave to be able to still ground
ourselves in reality.
SPEAKER_03 (30:30):
I think reality is a a good word to kind of key in on
because there are so there's somuch speculation with um what we
think that we gotta look at whatreality is and what's what's
been proven over the course ofof time.
(30:53):
And so none of these things thatlike Sasquash, it's not really
ever been proven.
What is reality, Chuck?
Re what is reality?
Honestly, that's a greatquestion.
SPEAKER_04 (31:04):
Maybe that's the next episode.
That might be what is reality,reality.
Yeah, because I think you hitthe nail on the head as I think
that really all these things arebased around that same idea.
What is reality?
What is real?
What isn't real, or even whatcould be argued that is real?
You know what I mean?
Yep.
And I hate to use the wordargued because I think now
(31:25):
especially it has a realnegative term.
Like we can't disagree withoutarguing and being negative.
But I think that that would lendus to our next episode, which
would be what do we thinkreality really means and what is
it?
That's what I think.
All right.
SPEAKER_00 (31:41):
So if you have some uh maybe reality, what what is
the truth?
Yeah.
It's like the X Files.
SPEAKER_04 (31:49):
So if you have some I love the X Files.
SPEAKER_03 (31:52):
That's great.
So if you have some questions orif you have some suggestions as
to what reality, like what youthink, um hook into or go into
our our Facebook page.
Yeah, give us some uh What isthat page page again?
It's um half century hangout.
That's it.
Half century hangout onFacebook.
(32:14):
You can find us anyway.
We're on TikTok.
We're worldwide.
SPEAKER_00 (32:17):
TikTok.
SPEAKER_03 (32:18):
Yep.
I've never been on Twitter.
We're on Facebook.
Is that real?
Instagram.
SPEAKER_00 (32:23):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (32:23):
Yeah.
Incredible.
Cool.
So if you have some suggestionson where you want to go with
this, please reach out.
And uh we'll.
SPEAKER_04 (32:29):
Gentlemen, I love today.
Today was a great day.
It was a great day.
Super great day.
Super great day.
And you know what?
That's all we gotta.
We all just gotta hang out andjust blow a little steam off.
We hope that's what you do whenyou listen.
SPEAKER_00 (32:43):
It's good to spend time in Luke's garage.
Yep, and we will be back nextweek, right?
We will.
Next week.
Rock and roll.
We're there.
SPEAKER_04 (32:52):
Peace out.
Go blue.
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