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April 1, 2024 46 mins

Episode 9: “Casa De La Smurf"
Nick Thomas, 35
Helena, Mt




When Nicky T and I first met, the last thing on our minds was how our trials would forge an unbreakable bond. Amidst the highs and lows, Nick's transformation from heartbreak to hunk is a testament to the resilience we can all find within. In a candid conversation filled with laughter and raw emotion, we revisit our journey together, from christening my basement bar, the 'liquor hole', to swapping out our coping mechanism of choice from the bottle to the barbell.

Life's transitions, be it a tumultuous breakup or the daunting challenge of finding one's place in the world, have a way of teaching us about our core selves. As Nick and I swap tales from our fitness journeys and the days of adjusting to each other's quirks as roommates, we uncover a deeper understanding of acceptance and personal growth. Our shared experiences reveal how embracing discipline at the gym has not only shaped our bodies but our mental fortitude and self-perception as well.

From raucous beginnings in radio to the more measured paces of family life, I take listeners through my own evolution, including a foray into the unpredictable world of social media. The conversation swings from the serious to the light-hearted, ultimately arriving at a touching tribute to the constancy of friendship. Join us as we celebrate the roots that ground us, the goals that propel us forward, and the indelible imprint of connections that stand the test of time, all narrated through the life and times of myself and Nicky T.

Recorded 10/?/23

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And there we go.
Hey everybody, welcome toHanging with Humans, episode 9.
9.
Today I have a wonderful,wonderful guest.
He's a dear, dear friend ofmine, former roommate, former
breakup bro, the legend, the manhimself, nick Thomas.
Nick, what is that nickname?
They call you around here?

(00:21):
Nicky T, nicky T, how'd you getthat nickname?
What is that nickname they callyou around here?
Nicky T.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Nicky T, how'd you get that nickname.
Well, my name is Nick Thomas,so I just put a Y on the end of
Nick and cut the Thomas out.
Oh, that's true, I should havecame in before that question
with like a way deeper, like.
I got T because.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
I T-bone people when I drive and crash into them Like
I don't know.
It's something like that.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
No, actually, like I don't know, it's something like
that.
No, actually, I, I think I gaveit to myself, to be honest,
which is which is super like,super cool that is.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I mean, I sell our gz all my nicknames too.
It's all the same thing.
But, um, I, uh we're gonnastart here with, uh, I'm gonna
let, we're gonna get to know youa little bit, um, because
you're my friend and I love youwant some, some of the dollar
store Lakeview cheese.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yes, the snack size.
It's a large snack size, that'sdelicious.
We've also got some peanutbutter cheese crackers.
Whoa, not as good as Austin.
Don't buy the munchie Frito-Laybrand, they're trash.
But this here, what are wedoing here?
Well, that's a Bill Maher beefstick.
Little buddy, yep, I figured ifI was going to have you as a

(01:27):
guest in the liquor hole, thenonly the finest meats come out.
Ps.
This is my bar in my basement,the liquor hole.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
This is the liquor hole.
I actually love what you'vedone.
This is very dope.
It's very like trashy right?
Are you going to do the?

Speaker 2 (01:50):
dollar bills like all over, like I think so
eventually, but right now peopleare just kind of tucking them
in places that they go.
I love that.
Uh, all the stuff you got goingon here, kind of retro vibes
where are you getting all thisstuff from?
Honestly, most of it was givento me.
That tv I bought when I movedout, when we first started
hanging out.
Um, the bar tops that you can'tsee in film right now are all
from chilies.
The chairs we had I boughtthose two chairs.
I bought the chairs we'resitting in at the ReStore.
This table was given to me fromKyla True Smith.

(02:12):
Oh, it's Smith now, that'sright.
These signs were all given tome, except for those.
I bought those two over there.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
I love it and I also like that.
You got it on your licenseplate it says nick's truck.
Okay, very cool.
Was my truck very original, um,all right.
So, uh, a little bit of what wedo here as we me, what I do
here on this podcast, is talkabout mental health.
But you and me have had a tonof good, awesome times together.

(02:39):
We've also shared some bummertimes together.
We have um, so we'll do alittle story time and stuff.
But the reason why I'm bringingup a certain story is because
we were both suffering fromgnarly breakup, super sad, super
depressed, and we were justdrinking ourselves silly and um
into the abyss.
Into the abyss is what I whatwe would refer to it to.

(03:00):
I'm in the abyss, bro, can't doit.
It means like three, four daybender, um, fast forward to now.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Happily married as of recently?
Well, just I broke my weddingring, so I'm getting ideas.
I'm still married.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
You hear that, dudes you hear that, um, so you're all
happily married now, but youwere not the man then that you
are today.
Um, we got into the gymtogether.
That was a big thing, right?
Um, so I guess what I'm sayingis, my antidepressant is the gym
.
You know it's.
That's my dopamine, that's likemy drug.
Um, can you kind of go aboutand explain where we were at

(03:34):
that point right now when, uh,we, we just got broken up with
what is?
What is the shit looking like?
So do you?

Speaker 2 (03:40):
care if I backtrack a little bit on that.
Please, please, please, please.
So before we got into thebreakup, I was dating a gal,
top-notch human being, and herroommate at the time and friend,
was dating RJ.
So I was living in the housewith this ex-girlfriend that,
neither here nor there greathuman being.
I just realistically hadn'ttreated her the way she deserved

(04:00):
to, and now she's happilymarried and she deserves every
bit of happiness because she'ssuch a decent, great human.
Um, but anyways, she was, rjwas dating her roommate, so
naturally we were both basicallyroommates that you didn't
officially live there, but youwere there all the time, all the
time, correct.
And we started doing, you know,family dinners and we would

(04:21):
just hang out and like, watch alittle youtube and we'd sit on
the patio and drink and eat, andthen we'd get dance parties and
get a little bit into the abyss.
Wear onesies yeah, we had theonesies.
Sky vodka was your thing, skyvodka Cooking with Argyle.
So, anyways, once those breakupsboth happened which ironically

(04:42):
enough was pretty close to thesame time, I was sitting around
and I was like, okay, I havenothing else going on.
I worked somewhere thatbasically didn't give me a whole
lot of extra cash.
Not to mention I was reallystupid and bought stuff I really
shouldn't have, like vehicles Ireally couldn't afford.
So I was really low on cash.
I had no other things to do.
So I basically talked to rg'slike I'm gonna hit the gym, like

(05:04):
well, I've been talking aboutdoing this my whole life, like
let's go for it.
And it became a thing Like wewere religious about it?

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah good.
So up until that point, when wedid that was going to the gym,
was that not like a normalcommon?

Speaker 2 (05:18):
part of your life?
No, not until Well, youremember having to teach me
everything.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
I didn't know what your level of fitness or playing
sports like growing up was I'mthe most uncoordinated athletic
person you've ever met.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Rj, I can't play backhand.
That's true.
I'm so uncoordinated, it'sridiculous.
We played cornhole the otherday and it was freaking
embarrassing.
That bad, just so uncoordinated.
I have no hand-eye coordination.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
I love that.
I love that for you.
I'm sorry, but it'll be okay.
So from there.
Sorry, I lost my train ofthought.
I've been smoking a lot of weedlately.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
You're in the middle of the story.
My bad, that's you.
No, I'm not.
That was it.
I was just going to say, as Iget these snacks out, and we
have these microphones righthere and Mike's like.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
That's right.
I literally in a coupleepisodes before I, ate sour
gushers throughout the wholething and I was like I really
wish I didn't do that.
So yeah, now you did this.
Why would you do this?

Speaker 2 (06:20):
I don't know.
I thought we should have.
Like, if you're going to bedown in the liquor hole, I
thought you should have.
Yeah, and I don't have thatSnakey booze.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
No, but you do have a Capri Sun.
This is my NA beer right here.
So at that point, right there,we're going to the gym.
What year is that?
Do you remember 2016.
?
And it's 2023 right now.
That's.
I'm right now, seven years ago,a lot of years.
So you've been as long as I'veknown you like.
Since then, I would say you'vetaken breaks and stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
You've been pretty consistent overall yeah, I
haven't really taken that manyof breaks, though.
I always have to go and I gobecause I don't want to.
I hate the gym.
I've never enjoyed the gym.
I go because I don't want to befat, to discipline.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Jokes on me and I'm 35 now and I'm still fat, You're
stacked and I don't want tohear a thing In the gut.
Anyway, you and Chantel, youguys go to the gym and stuff
together too sometimes I'mtrying to get her into getting
in there too.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
She's not huge on it, but we're getting her in there.
She's got great form.
I was watching her squat andstuff.
You know what I'm saying, Iknow what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I know what you're saying.
So, yeah, that's how we met,right, we met from that
relationship.
We were all effed up.
We broke through that barrierby bettering ourselves with the
gym.
Fast forward later.
Our lives are way, waydifferent.
You're getting married now, or?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
you're married now, costa de la Smurf.
Oh, we're fast forwarding again.
Like we're way fast forward,are we?
Really?
Well, we're going from 2016 allthe way into 2021.
That's true, um, which is fine.
We can do that.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
This is your show, yeah, so check out these notes.
You can't read them?
No, because it's you're.
I can't even read them right,like I'm dyslexic, probably.
So this is like my order.
I go like uh, uh, uh, uh, um.
Okay, but going off of that,I'm just like I just throw
questions here and there.
We just kind of go umrelationship to the person you

(08:18):
are now today.
In this relationship with yournow wife person, you were maybe
that time frame, uh, of ourlives.
What are the big uh changesyou've made to be able to be in
a successful relationship andnow marriage?

Speaker 2 (08:34):
so uh, I don't know how many people are watching
this.
Gonna know me at all, but I'm abit of an egomaniac.
Um, I don't mean to be, I don'tmean mean to, but I definitely
think I know my worth.
I try to be the best person Ican.
I try not to be a POS tocertain people, but I've
definitely done that before.
If you say you don't, I thinkyou're a liar.

(08:56):
When I was living with you, Ijust left my mother's house
because prior to leaving mymom's house, three months before
that, I was in anotherrelationship and I packed my
stuff up one night and left.
I said I was done and moved inwith my mom in my mom's basement
in my old room from high school.
And then I was like okay, Ican't live with my mom.
She's 32 years old, I cannotlive with my mom.

(09:18):
And RJ's like I got a roomcoming up.
But RJ's like I got a roomcoming up and I was like it's
really not what I want to do,because I'm not big on renting
with roommates, just because I'mjust not big on it.
I've seen it go south so manytimes with other people.
But I was also looking at themarket in town here and I was
like there's just no, I justdon't see it.
I mean, maybe down the roadwe'll find something that works,

(09:41):
but right now this is going tobe affordable.
This gets me out of my mother'shouse.
It gets me living a little moreindependent, gives me a better
chance to whore around.
If we're going to be realhonest with each other and now
we moved in and we had a prettygood setup for roommates.
To be honest, we didn't seeeach other that much though.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I think that's one of the keys to being good
roommates too.
Like a lot of people don't knowthat.
I think that's one of the keysto being good roommates too,
like a lot of people don't knowthat, but that space and we're
not super alike and like all theexact same things, so we're not
like, if you're going somewhere, oh hey, can I go?

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Or hey, you know, it's like we did some like.
Sometimes it's like say, can Itake a line Like, of course we
take a line Like let's go Dinnerat home?
At the time too that I was, soyou were kind of doing your
thing and I was, you know, doingmy thing as well.
So we I was about the best wayto describe when we lived
together is we kind of did ourown things.
There was days that we would,though we'd be at home, you know
you'd be cooking supper, youknow we'd just be literally

(10:37):
hanging out doing nothing.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
That was, it was a good time, it was a good period.
Um, that time we're gonna gointo a funny ass story because,
uh, st patty's day, we livetogether.
Right, I got this is the bestroommate story ever.
Um, he will tell it better, butbasically he got shit faced in
butte, right?

Speaker 2 (11:00):
well, we started in butte, drove back from butte and
continued to go in hell, and Ihad to work the next day.
I don't know what the hell Iwas doing.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Before we go on that, can you explain what Butte,
what St Paddy's Day on Butte islike?

Speaker 2 (11:13):
St Paddy's Day in Butte.
So everybody, or the main groupof folks out of Butte, are all
Irish Catholic, so Butte wasfounded on mines.
So they're all old blue collarirish folks and he he.
St patty's day has always beena big deal in butte, so they do
a huge parade in the morning andthat's basically just pickle

(11:33):
their livers all night.
Yeah, it's a good time, it's athat's crazy.
It's like like any otherfestival that closes off roads
and streets, but there'sthousands of people in uptown
butte and butte's populationcannot be more than like 20 000
people on a normal day.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, right, no yeah, but um so yeah, he was turned
up from there, so anybody willgo into that sort of parade
situation thing.
It's just a really good timethere in butte, but uh, continue
, sir, so we get home, I'm likeyou know, I start, you're
drinking more, we're doing carbombs.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Rule number one stop doing, stop doing car bombs.
I did one last year.
That's the only one I did.
But then we go, you know, comeback and hit one bar in town.
I go eat with my old man anddrink while I'm eating there and
then, instead of going homelike a smart kid because I got
to lakeside, which is anotherbar out we're doing more car
bombs there Just got inebriatedand then came home and went to

(12:25):
bed.
Well, sometime in the middle ofsleep and this is the only time
I've ever done this in my wholelife I puke in bed.
They got like laid out, anyways.
I wake up, thinking like I wasjust sleeping a normal night,
and I look over and I'm prettysure RJ's dog, winston, is
sleeping in the bed with me.
And I wake up Winston, youpuked in my bed, what the hell
man?

(12:45):
And I'm pretty sure the poor.
I whooped the poor dog's butttoo.
I'm pretty sure for it.
Yeah, I must've been loud,cause RJ comes in the room.
He's like what's going on?
Man, I was like fricking.
Winston puked all over my bedand instead of just being like
no, idiot, it was fucking you.
This is like a shirt.

(13:08):
Was winston, what else would itbe, god?
So I, you know, get out of bed,call a bunch of people, I guess,
on the phone, lose a bunch ofstuff, and I'm going to do my
laundry, obviously, because Ibet my sheets are covered in
fucking puke.
Yeah, I go do my laundry, I goclean them up the next day and I
can see like carrot.
And then I'm like oh, I know,it was me.
I didn't know until, like thenext day, I was in my mind
convinced it was a winston.
And it wasn't until the nextday I was in my mind convinced
it was Winston.
It wasn't until the next daythat I was like oh my God, put
you and Dee together.

(13:28):
Oh man, I felt just.
Oh man, I forgot.
I missed work the next day foran hour.
I walked right in.
They're like turn around, youcan come back tomorrow.
Maybe Fucking my boss wouldn'tanswer my calls all day.
The anxiety was real.
Yeah, there's no.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Lesson learned, though the day after St Paddy's
Day, like I don't think there'sa company in the world that's
like, oh yeah, you're fuckingsick.
Oh, like, not from booze, yeah.
So, since we're just jumpingaround backtracking and whatnot,
so I met you around the timethat I met you, that we talked
about I want to say like 2016,.
17 or something.
That's a little bit of cheese,right.

(14:02):
This is actually really goodFor dollar store cheese, and the
little peppers are kind of yeah, they're fire, right.
I was only friends with youbriefly while you were in the
radio business, right, so I kindof want to know how you got
into that, how did you fall intothat and what were your
experiences like doing that,because I've seen you go to

(14:23):
concerts and talk to all theserad you know singers and stuff
country singer.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Uh, yeah, the radio was cool.
The radio was awesome.
Now, um, I love my job now, butthe radio is still my favorite
job ever had.
Doesn't pay for shit, though.
If you're really yeah, it's, itwas not.
It was not a real good pain jobyou would think of somebody
like the face of something Imean, but it's I don't know,
that's what it is and plusradios phasing out.

(14:49):
Do you have a mullet at the time?
I've had a mullet since, like2006 or 13,.
I think that's right it didstart here in Montana, possibly.
So I know a guy that works forthe radio.
He drinks at my originalhometown bar, my home home-based
bar.
I remember telling him onenight down there's like you know
, I'd love to get in.
He's like, well, I can get youin to do some basically the

(15:11):
worst work there is there.
He's like I can get you indoing some of this because no
one else wants to do it.
So I'm sure they were happy tohire me for next to nothing.
I was only doing it to get myfoot in the door.
So, and just as you know, justas it would have it, the co-host
for the morning show ended upleaving and going somewhere else
and the guy that was doing theco-hosting with her, his name

(15:32):
was Brother Dale, who became oneof my dear friends and still is
.
I don't talk to him as muchanymore.
Shout out to Brother Dale, yeah.
Shout out to Bro Dale, yep.
And he basically gave me achance and God, we had fun on
the morning show.
We would just we would doridiculous stuff.
He was so good at like coming upwith the ridiculous things to
do so we'd plan the show out theday before.

(15:52):
He's like well, tomorrow's DaleEarnhardt's June, or Dale
Earnhardt's birthday.
So why don't we race chairsdown Broadway and if you've been
in Helena, broadway is likesteep, like steep, steep.
So we get on our desk chairsand meet him, race down Broadway
for whatever it was.
And during the Christmas time Iwas like man, I wish they would
make us some baked goods.
I'm like why don't we have acontest If he's got the best

(16:14):
baked goods in town and wewouldn't talk to they just
closed down and it's called thepan handler and we got like 90
bucks worth of gift certificateit's like $30 a piece for
basically high-end kitchen stuff.
So someone came and brought usall sorts of fudge and peanut
brittle.
That was the categories Fudge,peanut brittle and then other
Homemade stuff yes, all homemadestuff that people brought in

(16:35):
that's so dope, yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
So you just thought that all up to throw.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
I just wanted to be fat and eat really good
Christmas stuff.
So we had the Great ChristmasBlake debate.
Damn, that's awesome.
We would do just like VCR day.
We destroyed a VCR.
I went and did a burnout on itin my truck.
My mom came and brought it infor Gary Allen tickets.
Gary Allen tickets.
I got to see a bunch of starsRandy Houser, dierks Bentley,

(16:58):
frankie Ballard, garth Brooks,keith Urban, billy Currington,
trace Atkins A whole bunch ofthese stars.
I got to go and meet them.
Most of them were nice enough.
A few of them were really cool.
Tim and Faith were awesome.
Some of them were BillyCurdington.

(17:19):
I wouldn't go watch him everagain.
He was a douche.
I was hammered when I met tylerfarr and you can see in this
picture with him I'm trying toget my phone on.
Show me just like man.
Come on, you see the look onhis face.
He's like please get out of myfucking face please leave,
please leave.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
yeah, I mean, dude, can you imagine on that level
though that scale, how manypeople you're just dealing with
in and out all day long?
I get worn out.
From a little social event Ican imagine a huge concert.
It's part of your life thoughit is, you got to roll with it.
So you guys are doing a bunchof skits and everything like
that.
Is it like an Opie and Anthonytype thing?

(17:58):
No, opie and Anthony, the radioguys Never mind.
Um, so you do that.
How does uh, how does that end?
Was that something so?

Speaker 2 (18:09):
the company that I worked for, um, got bought out
by another company that has acompany currently still here in
town and they bought him out.
I think I was a little edgy forhim and I don't think I was
worried about what I'd say onthe air as much as they were
worried about what I would dooff the air A bit of a loose
cannon, loose cannon and a wildcard.

(18:30):
They weren't a real big fan ofit.
And I said a few things.
I'm pretty sure Put my nail inthe grave on a couple things,
which happens.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Hey, dude, free speech, that's what I'm all
about.
Um, so, with that, during theradio stuff, when did you start
your, uh, your social media sortof presence thing?
Was that around the same time?
Because?

Speaker 2 (18:51):
uh, no, I started doing social media stuff in 2014
.
Um, me and tinker, believe itor not, decided we were going to
do the company that ended upfiring me had a contest when uh,
when helena first startedgetting concerts because we had
none we had montgomery gentrycame to play here and they're
like we have meet and greets ina special seat for whoever is

(19:14):
the biggest fan, who can show usyou're the biggest fan of the
mighty most.
So we put these shirts on andgot quade, make us some signs
and some other stuff like that.
And we ended up winning.
And then the next year, traceAtkins came and we decided to do
a video to his song Rough andReady, because you had to lip
sync or sing one of his songsand be better.
So me and Tinker do Rough andReady and get in the middle of

(19:36):
the hills and cut off shortslike a bunch of dang idiots and
did this music video.
That was the one thing thatTinker was always down and
badass for was.
He was always willing to belike I'm in, like I was, like I
have a stupid, crazy idea for avideo.
We're gonna look like idiots,but I think it's gonna be funny.
He's like, say when, like hewas always into that, you need

(19:57):
that and we won that.
And then, basically, once I wasdoing that, I was like what do
people think about me just doinga daily blog online and just
post a video, it turned into1,000 likes in a day and then it
was 10,000 likes in a coupleweeks or something like that.
I don't remember.
It was almost 10 years ago Now.
It's like I get recognizedeverywhere I go, like Vegas

(20:22):
Oklahoma, really Vegas Oklahoma.
I don't know if anybodyrecognized me in florida, texas,
wherever we go, you'll wantpeople to recognize you, trust
me.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Um, that's where everybody gets his faces off
with bath salts it's been a longtime, hasn't it?

Speaker 2 (20:37):
hasn't bath salts been a hot minute?

Speaker 1 (20:39):
yeah, we're off the salts now.
Um, yeah, so you're doing thatradio.
Uh, so do you remember thefirst video that like blew up,
blew up, I do.
What is that?
It was moose power, moose power.
What happened to moose power?

Speaker 2 (20:53):
so back in the day, people don't do it as much
anymore.
There's a few people that do,but uh, so it's the guys with
dodge pickups and they uh,tooted, tooted, sorry, um,
that's all right, the guys withDodge pickups.
There's the Dodge pickup.
Mirrors flip up.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
And I remember a buddy of mine telling me one
time uh, me and that gal I usedto date had a big Dodge pickup.
I think her husband drives itnow, which means it's still
running, which is crazy, but sheused to run those mirrors up
all the time.
So we're going up to have herto go see some friends and my
buddy's like you got that moosepower coming.
I'm like what in the hell doesthat mean?
It means he's like the Dodgetow mirrors Looks like a moose

(21:28):
running down the road.
And I was like, oh my God.
So, lo and behold, I got themirrors pulled up pulling a
trailer, because we're not ghosttrailering it, we can have
mirrors up.
This is the big thing.
Just driving up on the high line, up towards cutback for a car
show and I'm like basicallydoing this video and for some

(21:49):
reason, like it took off, peopleare like, oh, this guy's making
fun of dodge truck owners.
And then that was my big thingfor a while.
Is this diesel truck making funof all the diesel douche guys?
Yeah, yeah.
And then, as I've gotten older,I just don't do a lot of them
anymore.
I did one today.
I had a wild hair to have onetoday, and I haven't done one
since june before that.
So on vehicles or something, no, no, I did one on a getting old
and fat.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
No dude, honestly, every now and then when I pop in
and check, you always have likea point to what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
There's always like some sort of I try, and I
believe I'm a semi shadow bandbecause I will say whatever the
hell I want to, and I'm sure theinternet shadow dances shit out
of me for it.
That's it.
But maybe that, or maybe I'mjust old and not as and it's
just that simple.
It's the algorithm as much as.
Yeah, that's what it is.
I just can't get the algorithm.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
It's definitely not you, that's not funny oh man,
yeah no, there's some secretcabal controlling that.
That is satan we're not winning.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
The internet's a weird place to live.
It is a weird fucking.
But I've had a lot of fun, meta lot of people.
Yeah, you got to do a lot ofcool things just because I make
videos.
You've had, yeah, like didn't.
I'm crazy blessed that the way,like some people are so cool.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
So cool, but to me absolutely dude.
Oh my god.
Yeah, well, you're one of theraddest dudes ever, you know.
So not really think I'd saythat, but like I'm okay, all
right.
Well, I think you're a realstraight shooter.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
I like that I love that too.
Where that beauty up top manMontana till.
I die shout them out, shoutthem out.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
That's tight.
I like that.
Um, all right, so we've gonethrough breakups.
Fitness, oh, other video stuff.
See the reviews.
How did that come into play?
How many have you done so far?
What's the best?

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Oh, I don't know how many I've done.
I've seen quite a few, I don'tknow.
So you know.
El Presidente, obviously right,Like you watch all this stuff
from martial sports, I justwatch him do the one bite.
Everybody knows the rules, so Idon't want to copy that.
But I thought the concept tomyself what better of a job in
the world than to go across thenation and eat the best pizza

(23:51):
they have?
I love my job, but if I couldtake anyone's job in the world,
I would have Guy Fieri's jobwhen diners, drive-ins and dives
.
I'd drive the whole nation in aconvertible 67 to 69 Camarero
and I would eat the best foodthe nation has to offer.
That would be the coolest jobin the world.
You could see all sorts ofstuff and literally just eat the
best food.
So anyways, I'm thinking tomyself.

(24:12):
I was like what do I?
I can't eat pizza.
I almost did it with Reubenthis one time because I fucking
like a good Reuben.
That is true, reubens arefantastic, like a good Ruben.
A good Ruben, he did a good,you know, and then I was going
to do it and then it's just toomuch of a cut and I can knock
off of him.
Yeah, they're both foods.
Yeah, but I'd already starteddoing Caesar reviews at that

(24:34):
point.
But I love Caesars.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
I love them.
I've never had a Caesar until Ilived in montana, which is I
just had bloody marys everywhereelse.
They're a big thing here and Ilove them.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
They're delicious oh so a caesar, just in case
anybody's curious, is basicallya bloody mary.
But instead of tomato juice,you're using clamato juice, and
if someone says what's clamatojuice, it's tomato juice and
clam juice together, whichsounds disgusting, and you
either find it absolutelydisgusting or you love it.
There's no in between.
I think I've met two people inmy life that are okay, yeah,
every now and then.
No, like you either love themor you hate them.

(25:07):
You drink them like that's adrink for you or you will not
touch them.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
I can take one sip just to tell someone yeah, spicy
, nice, that's it, that's all Igot.
So you've done a bunch of those.
Are those like the leadingthing that you got going on?

Speaker 2 (25:22):
No, I haven't even done one in months.
I can tell you how long ago thelast one I did was.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Jeez.
Well, that's good.
That means you're like doinglife stuff.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, since I've gotten married too.
That's another thing.
If I'm going to be very frankwith you, rj, I have I've lost
Caesar review.
I did was on May 14th, oh yeah,yeah, if I'm being very honest
with you, my social mediapresence I've been logged into
my Nikki T Snapchat for so long.
I just don't really need to.
Yeah, yeah, I'm not chasingpussy anymore Like I'm married

(25:57):
and I'm happily married, so Igot part of me went in there
just to pick up hoes, if I'mbeing real honest with you.
So I have no real and I shouldkeep up with some of those guys
who've been following me for along time and just you know, see
how they're all doing.
Yeah, but I just I also I'molder now and I just most days I
don't really give a shit and ifI have an idea, it's usually
right in the middle of the daywhen, like my, my thought

(26:18):
process is ready for it, butI've got to finish the work day
out before I can take an hourminimum to do the video and then
edit it, to get it uploaded andeverything else, and you just
can't do that when you'reworking.
Thought of the day is the thingyou do, right?
I used to.
I mean, I did.
I did a couple of them not toolong ago, but that's what
started, was the thought of theday has?

Speaker 1 (26:35):
uh, have you had any like impact out of those?
Like I've like read somecomments before and people are
just like oh yeah, for sure Iget that.
But like you, have you hadstuff on a deeper level that's
connected with people?
Because what I'm doing with thepodcast right now, I've been
able to reach a lot of peopleand talk to me and they message
me like, hey, what you're doingis really helping me.
This and this and this.
I'm going through this in mylife.

(26:58):
I can relate.
Is there any like positivethings coming out of it?
Like that?

Speaker 2 (27:03):
I've done a few videos.
I had a few people tell me Imade a couple of videos that
have kept them from committingsuicide.
But she was pretty powerful forme, absolutely.
I'm one chick.
I tried to chase down to hit onafterwards because I'm a dirt
ball like that.
That's also.
It's also been like at leastseven, eight years since then,
but no, nonetheless, as adirtbag thing to do I had, I did

(27:25):
a video.
I showed it to you.
You remember I?
I was in a real bad spot when Ifirst moved in with you and you
were the first person to see it.
Actually, before I post it Nextone, um, I was sitting in my
truck and talking about how youneeded to love yourself.
Do you remember?
I looked at it and I says RJ, Ineed your honest opinion on this
video.
I need you to tell me if thissounds like I'm being a crybaby

(27:46):
bedwetter or if I should post it.
And you're just like no, youshould really post that.
And I did.
And it, um, I had a guy hisname's Nash Foreman.
Uh, he watched that and, uh, hewas telling me about where his
life was at the time and how hewas going through a lot of
serious stuff.
He said he watched that video Idon't know how many times and
it was basically there's thisvideo that kind of helped him

(28:07):
move along and how I basicallysaved his life from that one
video.
I've heard a lot of people saythis video really, really saved
me.
This video may have saved meand I've heard like there's
comments on it.
I've gotten messages from itwhich is crazy powerful to me
that you know you can just goout and I'll jump in my pickup
and make a video and it'spowerful enough to change

(28:29):
somebody's life, which is cool.
But the original way thing Istarted for is just to make
laughs.
I just get a laugh out of it.
If I would have pursued itharder and not listen to other
people, I might have a differentoutcome at this point in my
life.
But yeah, but he's like youknow, don't focus too much on
that stuff.
Get a real job.
You know, at one time it hadthe momentum to really be

(28:51):
something if I would have stuckwith it.
Not that my life now isn't yourlife's dope.
When I tell you I may be fatbut I'm happy, you know what I
mean.
My wife is the most amazinghuman being.
What the hell that woman hasseen in me and how she gets me.

(29:12):
She lets me do as I please.
I don't have to hide thingsfrom her.
And I talked to him a bit of asleazebag, and we'll be walking
out.
And I was like we'll be out onthe town or doing something like
, hey girls, how's it going?
And she'd look at me and go,what Like, really Like fuck.
She'd look at me and go, whatlike, really like?
You think so, not me, and justdoesn't get mad.

(29:33):
Doesn't normally get, yeah,crazy about it unless you know I
push it, let's like, push ittoo much.
That she's like okay, like Iget it, hump the breeze.
But uh, my wife is the mostamazing human being in the world
.
If you met my wife, you you'llattest to that I was the best
thing that's ever happened to me.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
When you met her or when you guys started hanging
out that weird roommates, sorry,we were, we were there.
Yeah, she came over, you guyslike had a date or whatever,
like she stayed or I don't know.
But I met her then and Iremember Cause we had had a
revolving door going through ourplace of just whatever Um, and

(30:08):
that was the friends and hoesand dogs.
No, co-dog, yeah co-dog, ripco-dog, um, he bit the mailman,
so he did, he bit, you bit acouple cops, a couple cop even
worse yeah, that's geez, and hewas a black dog too.
Can't we have it?
Can't we having dogs biting,can't be?
Uh, but before I went off thattopic, uh, yeah, so we were in

(30:29):
this, like I said, that place,and then to go from there,
you're like dude, I really likedher, this and this, and I was
like, yeah, everybody thought itwas like right away, right, it
was it was crazy.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
It was no, it was stupid, it was crazy, but it was
, um, she was in a point whereshe ended her relationship and
she was done with it and I wasliving with rj and she has the
house.
We're in right point where sheended her relationship and she
was done with it and I wasliving with RJ and she has the
house.
We're in right now Like she hadthis place, but it was not in
the condition it was in.
Now.
It was it needed a bunch ofwork and she was over it.

(30:59):
Her ex left some unfinishedprojects, some stuff, and it was
a lot like it was a lot thatneeded to get taken care of and
she was ready to sell the house.
And she's like, well, I'm justgoing to come stay with you and
RJ.
I was like you can't.
I was like if you didn't havethe dogs then maybe, and you
could talk about it.
But I was like you have a place, let's.
I said it was good either way,let's see what happens.

(31:19):
An era yeah, I'm gonna move out.
And it was quick, though superquick.
It was like august one.
I moved in there, august one.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
I first started seeing her like june one yeah,
it was like what two months itwas ago.
Yeah, yeah, literally yeah, andthat's what everybody said.
They're like hey, truly, is hehappy?
Is he, was he this and this andthis?

Speaker 2 (31:43):
I'm curious about that, like I was.
It's crazy to me that I haven'theard a lot of like, wow, like
I think you did that quickenough, or wow, they're sure
jumping it, or nothing.
No, I got no negative commentsfrom people.
I think none.
That's good, that's good, um,but I think people could see it.
I think people could see it wasit was the real deal,
absolutely yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
No.
When people would ask me like,hey, is that for real?
Is this because I'm like I'venever seen him more happy in my
entire life, like that'sliterally what I said.
I was like I've never seen himso happy and they're like, you
think, as soon as it, quick, Iwas like if he's as happy as
that, that's the happiest I'veever seen him.
I don't fucking care how longdude, go, peace go.
That's the whole point.
Like fine, if you found that,which you have, obviously you

(32:22):
guys are married.
You got the woman of yourdreams.
It all worked out.
Dude, you're killing it.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
That's crazy to me.
That's such a weird concept.
She's been the biggest blessingin my life, like and I'm I'm a
very blessed person and she'sthe biggest blessing.
Never met a better human thanmy wife.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
She's so amazing she's absolutely, she's dope.
You guys balance each other sowell.
I love her.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, my wife's super quiet, like fly on the wall,
like we'd be sitting here doingthis podcast and she'd just be
chilling out like right here.
If she was in it, like she'd besitting there, and I think she
would have said like three wordsaltogether she was just fine
sitting there, it's perfect.
Will you grab me anothershelter by?

Speaker 1 (32:59):
chance, sir, yes sir, you want a claw, you want a
Cayman Jack, whatever's rightthere.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Just grab whatever's right there.
Alright, not that one, grabanother one.
I should have said don't grabthe Cayman Jack.
Perfect, thanks, sir.
I love this fridge.
By the way, that is my uncle'sfrom the 60s Westinghouse.
That is so great and it's homewith Underglow.
Yeah, I put that on there.
It was an extra in Fast and theFurious 3.

(33:25):
It was in Tokyo Drift.
Yeah, there was a guy that kindof turned behind his car.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
That's awesome.
Do you remember Pimp my Ridethat fucking show Yo dog, Yo dog
.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
I shared something on that the other day Did you see
it?

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Is it the thing where they were putting chimneys in
the mudflaps?

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Did you see my comment on that?
It's like the world was abetter place when Pitmire Riders
were putting TVs in mudslides.
My comment was yo, dog, I knowyou had a fish when you were in
third grade.
So we went and took your FordTempest and put a whole aquarium
in the backseat.
Dog, oh, man, they put like 1515s in a Geo Metro for no reason

(34:05):
, I think so many of those carsgot collapsed as soon as they
left, because the people ownedthem didn't know how to drive
anyways motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Um, uh, this was on the list too.
So, uh, your dad, he uh, he'sinvolved in cars and racing and
stuff.
Uh, you are, you're very muchinvolved in all that stuff.
How does uh, how does cars,muscle cars and all that stuff,
how does that factor in yourlife?
Um, how much does that mean toyou?
You know you go to a lot of carshows you stuff like that.

(34:32):
Um, when did that all getstarted?

Speaker 2 (34:35):
that from the time I was born.
Yeah, I've been doing thatsince the time I was born.
That is my thing.
Cars make me happy I.
It's part of the reason I buyall those trucks I.
I buy a new pickup all the timebecause for one I'm never happy
per se and you know the vehicleI always.
You're always looking for thebetter thing.
I won't now because the nexttruck I want to 80 grand at

(34:57):
least and I'm just refused topay that kind of money.
But um, I just love having that.
I love being the center ofattention.
I don't know if you knew thator not, I don't know.
I always loved the cars.
I've always loved going to carshows, seeing new places,
meeting new people, talking topeople about your cars.
Racing was fun.

(35:17):
I did that a lot in high school.
I don't really do a lot of itanymore.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
What's your dad's project?
Because he has badass cars,doesn't he Race, race, race,
race yeah that's my car, therace is it.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
I'm yours, my car.
The rest of them are all his.
I like to pretend they're mine,but they're actually his,
except for the, except for therace car.
The race car is mine.
You should take me for a spinsomething you say win man.
Let's come up to the races inhelena helena, I'm down for that
.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Um, so I've learned a lot.
Um, what do you got for me, bro?
Uh, the whole point of this isto just put things out there
that need to be said.
Do you have any other storiesfor us?
Do you have anything else youwant to mention on?
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (35:57):
anything like that.
I want to mention all my homiesin county and cell block six
cell block six.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
All right, oh, I had one last thing.
Yeah, it's super important.
Actually, you do what you'redoing.
I gotta find this because I hadsomething special for you.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
He's got something special for me, and then I got a
couple questions for you.
Yes, sir, I've asked you aboutthis a few times before, but
never.
I mean, you've sort of told me,um, you've traveled and lived
all over the place.
Yes, sir, um, that's what ledyou here.
One of the guys you worked inthe patch with.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
I think you may have met him before.
His name is matt, but he uh, wemet up there and um came to
check it out here one time andthis was the place.
Like my, my heart had neverfelt more full in a place.
I've never truly felt at homein california, but I was very
happy that I grew up there,because it was just a melting

(36:47):
pot of culture.
All I did was meet with everydifferent type of race, every
language being spoken, and so Idon't know, I grew up like that
and I traveled a lot as a kid.
I spent every summer of my lifein Portugal until I was like 13.
So kind of all I knew wastraveling.
You know, me and my dad woulddrive from California to New

(37:09):
York together every year,because he grew up living in New
York, new Jersey area, um, so,yeah, that equated into when I
got out.
I'm just gonna keep going andtraveling by myself and I've
made friends all over everystate you can think of.
I've lived in states for sixmonths here, a year there, a
year here, a year there, andsince I came here in 2016, this

(37:32):
place has been home ever sinceMm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yeah, I know, even since you were here, you went
back to California for a while,once in LA, and you were in
Washington for a while,washington, and then you were
back here, texas, that's right.
You went to Austin, didn't you?
Austin, and then you were backhere.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, and then this is actually the longest stretch
that I've been on since being inMontana, leaving back and forth
.
It's been three years sinceI've been in that, almost been
in that trailer, but I left toNorth Dakota for like six or
eight months or something.
But yeah, dude, montana's homenow has been I want to put my
roots down here, right, I wantto put my roots down here, right
.
I want to travel around, buthave this.

(38:10):
I know you got some planscoming up too.
I do.
I'm moving here in two weeksgive or take From this time that
we're filming.
Yes, I'll be out by.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
like the first, I'd like to say, by the time this
airs, it'll probably already begone.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah, that's exactly what's going to happen.
If you're reading this, I'malready gone.
I'm already gone.
I'm just going to do podcastswith a couple people.
Do that pack and just hit theroad and, yeah, I'll be living
in Billings and a little bit inBozeman, back and forth, and
just spreading the podcast, justdoing interviews here and there
.
Marketing, not marketing,networking.

(38:48):
I have some events that I'mdoing to go set up a booth for
the podcast and uh, yeah, sojust that's kind of like the
next step in this thing is justlike taking it to the next level
.
So, yeah, yeah, you never knowif you don't try, never know if
you don't try.
You know, like you said, youwish there's.
You know you didn't listen to alot of what the people said,
right, and just keep on fuckingplugging.

(39:08):
Exactly, I've got a lot of bothof those things.
So one of the last things Iwant to what do you, what do you
have planned now?
What I know, wife, home, house,everything makes you happy.
What other kind of goals do youhave right now for you guys?

Speaker 2 (39:25):
You know what, rj and I know this, and it's not like
I don't have goals.
I'd like to start investing alittle bit.
I'd like to worry about whatwe're going to do, you know, in
our retirement years.
But other than that, at thismoment I don't need a lot.
I need enough to pay my bills,have a little bit of change in
my pocket for a cold beer, putfuel in my pickup and like,

(39:55):
honestly, that's really aboutall I need.
I don't need a lot.
Um, I know it sounds likeridiculous.
I'm on this motivational groupchat thing every morning.
Like you know, be the alphamale.
You know change doesn't comewithout sacrifice and re.
You know it's something thatare right.
I totally get that.
But I can tell you for free, um, I don't think I'm really
willing to lose this time.
I have to be pushing andhustling something so much that
I don't see my wife or I'm nothome and I'm just out working

(40:18):
all the time to make money.
To do what, though?
Yeah, to do what I mean, sure,like cool.
Like, look at that, I got a newDenali in the parking lot.
That's really fucking cool.
Like, who the fuck cares, man?
Like that's cool.
Don't get me wrong.
I'd love a new Denali That'd begreat.
But, like my 03, I drive, um,it's super clean, it's super
affordable.
Um, you always had nice trucks.

(40:39):
Yeah, I just, I just I mean wehave a home that we're in, right
.
Um, you know, my goals would beto I just continue to grow with
my wife altogether.
You know, I'd like to see moremoney in the bank.
I want to go do more traveling.
I'm on a person's flightbenefits so I can fly for cheap,

(41:01):
cheap, just about anywhere.
I want to go, whoa, like, yeah,I can fly, like to Texas for
like 80 bucks.
Well, you know where you got togo, right, wherever.
Portugal, yeah, I would love togo to Portugal.
That's just the thing, though,you understand.
I mean, like, I want to seethings.
I don't need to do all thecrazy stuff.
I just need to work enough tosave up enough money to go on

(41:22):
the next little outing we'redoing and have a little money
for a little bit of a rainy day.
Don't get me wrong, I'm notgoing to walk around with no
cash, but I'm not going to ruinand spend all my thirties I

(41:43):
guess my last of my youngeryears doing stuff to for what?
Yeah, I'm in a situation nowthat's pretty damn blessed, rj,
you are blessed.
I don't see the need for awhole lot more.
That makes me happy.
I love coming home and sittingon the couch turning on the Xbox
.
Wife cooks me supper, sometimesa helper.
We walk the dogs.
Fuck yeah, our neighbors arephenomenal.

(42:07):
We've got a little side hustlethat we do ourselves for,
basically our play money,because everybody needs a little
side hustle something.
And, damn right, this couldn'tbe much better man, to be really
honest, like it.
I know it sounds so terribletoo, you know it does, because
everybody, you know you havegoals and aspirations and and

(42:28):
everybody says like, oh, I'dlove a giant house.
Like, you see, we're not havingkids.
I don't think we're having kids.
You know what I mean.
So this home is more thanenough for us.
That's true.
Yeah, that was going to be mylast question.
It's manageable.
I have this liquor hall that Ibuilt for friends and family to
come down and enjoy and spendtime together.
If friends and family to comedown and enjoy and spend time

(42:51):
together, um, if you want todrink beers with us, great.
If you don't drink a capri sun,damn.
And uh, I just I love that wehave the patio outside for the
summertime I love it out here.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Yeah, thank you so much for always having me over
for breakfast and dinner you'realways welcome here, rj yeah he
always told me your family,you're always welcome.
I really appreciate that.
Um.
So, with all that being said,do you have anyone else you want
to shout out or anything?
Um, I just finished a podcastearlier with libby, um, a friend
of ours, and we spoke about ourother friend who, um passed

(43:24):
hayley, so shouts out to thecrosses the whole family over
there.
Um, appreciate you guys and um,I appreciate you.
Thank you so much for.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
thank you for thinking to me, um, to be on
your podcast.
It's a big, big honor for methat you, you know, think about
me to go on your podcast, andI'd like to shout out my wife
and I'd like to shout out anyonewho took the time to listen to
this podcast with me.
I think that's pretty cool thatyou spend the time to listen to
me talk for this, however longwe've been sitting here.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
This is the last part .
I swear to Christ, there's nomore after this on YouTube.
Dude, I sent it to you rightnow.
So, uh, I gotta, I made a videofor you.
Your friends made a video foryou on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Yes, sir, I sent it to you via um I said on text
message, my friends made a videowith me yep, your friends made
a video for you.
Why?
Because am I supposed to watchthis now?
Yeah, watch it can I wait?

Speaker 1 (44:21):
yeah, I mean, if you want, I was just gonna cut it
and then, yeah, I'm gonna watchit here and then I'm not ready
to watch it.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Yeah, I'm, I'm not ready for that.
Actually, I don't know why theydo that.
That's cool.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Well, I told them I'm not ready to do that right now.
I told them that I was movingand it was a big deal that I
came and talked to you becauseyou're one of my dear friends

(44:52):
and I thought it would be a nicething to do if I got a couple
of people to uh say a littlesomething about you, because
you've been like my obituary,your obituary, because, uh,
you've been such a great friendto me and a lot of other people
and, uh, they're just saying alittle bit about you, how much
they appreciate you I'm gonnawatch it as soon as we're done,
here it's.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
I'll probably watch with my wife as soon as we're
all clear.
Yeah, so it's on the youtube.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
I just have it right here, and Swampy talks really
low because he put his phonelike 25 feet away like a silly
goose.
So crank it up when he doesthat.
But there's a lot in there.
It's really nice stuff.
So, once again, dude, nick,thank you so much.
I love you, thank you,appreciate you, thank you for
thinking I don't know what thatis.
Yeah, I know we'll hug it out.
Um, yeah, thank you, dude, ofcourse.

(45:29):
Thank you so much for doingthis.
You're the man and we did it.
We're good.
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