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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everybody,
welcome to another wonderful,
exciting, amazing episode ofHanging with Humans.
It's me, your host, rj, and Iam sitting in a tattoo shop by
the name of Ink House Tattoo ArtGallery and it's off Monte
(00:21):
Cristo Road in Edensburg, texas.
And it's off Monte Cristo Roadin Edensburg, texas, and I have
another guest today.
Hold on, I'm drawing a blankright now.
Sorry, dude, I don't know why Iforgot your name, freddie
that's right.
God damn it.
Freddie Honda, freddie Honda.
All right, freddie, freddie,freddy, freddy, freddy.
(00:45):
What's your last name, freddy?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
My last name is
Ramirez.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Thank you for
finishing that sentence, ramirez
, and how?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
old are you, freddy?
I am going to be 37 next month,so I'm 36.
You?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
lie.
Yeah bro, 37.
I don't believe it 37 years old.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
yeah, People come in
here and they're like I start
telling them about my journeyand my story and stuff and
they're like bro, how old areyou, how old do I look Like 26?
Hell, no, I wish.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
People say the same
thing about me.
So what we're doing here todayis I'm getting best bro tats
with my other best bro, Freddy,over here Not this Freddy, other
Freddie.
I just met this Freddie and Ithought it would be a cool idea
or actually, Freddie thought itwould be a cool idea for me to
do a podcast while I get atattoo, while interviewing other
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Freddie and I'm going to sayit's actually the best idea
Freddie's had in a long time.
So thank you for that, Freddie.
So what we do here on thepodcast is I interview people
and I let them paint a pictureof what their life looks like,
how it began, where it's goingand everything in between.
(01:56):
So, with that being said,Freddie, I got a bunch of
questions for you.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Where were you born?
I was born in Matamoros,tamaulipas, mexico, which is a
border town in Mexico, rightnext to Brownsville.
Really, I got papers, don'tworry, I got papers.
I got papers.
My uncle's a doctor over there.
My mom was having complications.
When I was a kid I had theumbilical cord wrapped around my
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neck.
The doctors here in thehospital said that it was just
normal.
So when we went over there toMexico with my uncle he was like
nah, he needs to get operated,like you need to get an
emergency c-section because yeah, yeah, you're in trouble.
So I started off life with agamble.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Paid off?
I suppose yes it does.
So you're born in Mexico,mexico, but I was raised in
Brownsville.
Okay, can you tell me a littlebit about your mother and father
.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
My father has a
locksmith company called J&J
Locksmith.
He's had that company eversince I was born and my mother
has always been like a housemother.
But that's also helped myfather like with his business
and stuff.
So I would say that my mom'sjob is, which is being like a
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house mother but cooking,cleaning, you know what I mean
Doing the whole thing.
So it's a job.
It's a job, yeah.
Shout out to my parents Do youhave any siblings?
Yeah, I actually have twobrothers and a younger sister,
and what do they do?
I have no idea.
I don't really talk to themReally.
Yeah, it's more of a hide-bystuff.
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I know my other brother beforemy sister.
He recently started tattooingand right now he's tattooing in
san antonio.
So he's doing that.
I don't know what my, what myuh other brother is doing and my
sister I don't know what she'sdoing.
Anyway, you have a pretty bigfamily, uh, just us, that's
pretty much it.
Um, we've never really beensuper family oriented.
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We've always just been us, soit's just really just been us.
We don't really hang out withcousins or none of that in my
family, so sad.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So sad.
I feel that so sad.
You say you're 37 years old.
I don't believe it, but if thatis really a thing, is really a
thing.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
So have you spent
your entirety of your life in
Texas?
I've spent most of my life inTexas.
I lived in Oklahoma, I lived inWest Texas, I lived in Houston.
So yeah, pretty much Texas.
Just a few months that I livedin Oklahoma.
That's about it.
What do you love about?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Texas.
If you love it, do you love it.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I love Texas because
I'm from here, but I mean,
there's a lot of things that Idon't agree with that.
I wish, like the laws on likemarijuana and all that stuff.
Right, I have to go to Coloradoand out of state to be able to
smoke comfortably and stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But other than that, texas isgood.
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Texas has the most people inprison, which is pretty crazy,
bro, too, and stuff, and that'sone of the only things I don't
really like about Texas thosetwo things.
Other than that, it's chilling,bro.
I don't mind it.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Does Texas have a
death penalty?
Yeah, oh, wow, huh, okay, solife growing up over.
Did you grow up in Brownsville?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So I grew up in
Brownsville, went to school in
Brownsville Elementary, middleschool, high school, graduated,
went to college, did the wholething and then from there, you
know, I had my jobs and stuffand life took me a certain route
, a different route, and Istarted getting in trouble.
It's very hard to get introuble, especially like at a
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border town.
Yeah, because it's so easy tomake money, bro, so easy Like
you can literally like, just hey, these people need to be picked
up close to the border andtaken to another house.
Chinese people, mexican people,russian people and people go
and pick them up or like, hey, Ineed this, move this stuff,
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move to a different house orwhatever.
Blah, blah, blah.
So it's, it's really easy toget caught up there if you're
not, if you're, very weak-mindedwhen it comes to, like you know
, I mean a lot of people theystruggle and stuff and they try
to find, you know, a resort anddoing stuff like that.
So that's how I got caught up,yeah so I guess.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
So a lot of people
end up in like gangs and stuff
like that.
Um, was that?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
not a lot of people,
but it's because it already
depends, like how you said Iwasn't, I was raised in a
getaway neighborhood.
But I mean, just because youwere raised there doesn't mean
that that's how you're gonna endup.
It's just really the people youhang out with.
I saw people with trucks and Isaw people like you know, doing
their thing and stuff and I'mlike man, I want that.
You know, I was working a nineto five job but these guys were
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like chilling all day and thenmaking three times as much as I
was.
So why not?
You know what I mean.
I had to run the hard way, Igot caught eventually and you
know I did time and stuff likethat, but that's that.
There's a lot of that downthere, bro.
You know what I mean a lot ofyoung, uh, tex-mex, uh, latino
guys.
That's what they get caught upin and they end up ruining their
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lives.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
It's easy to fall
into.
Yeah, dang um.
So you ended up doing thatlater on, but you said you went
to school first.
What was uh?
What were you interested?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
so I was going to
school for phlebotomy and then I
just thought that it wasn't forme.
So I started going to schoolfor uh, auto mechanics.
And then I ended up gettingkicked out of school because I
was dating this Philippine chickand I ended I caught her
cheating on me and I punched theguy and he got, and I got a.
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I got a, um, kicked out ofschool, was suspended for a
whole semester and then I justdecided not to go anymore and
that was it.
And that was it, bro.
That was really it.
I came to that.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
What were you going
to be majoring in?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I was in auto
mechanics and auto tech.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Oh, that's right,
auto tech.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
So you venture out of
that.
What's your next move,career-wise?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Career-wise is just
tattooing, honestly, and music I
have.
I also do music.
I'm in a band called popularloner.
We do a little bit of rap, rock.
Um, it's been great.
We just have a year doing itand it's been an awesome
adventure.
I was in another group beforethat, which kind of sparked it.
You know what I mean.
Um started getting myreputation and the music world
and you know, and once peopleheard my music and then they saw
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that I would tattoo, I startedtattooing a lot of people as
well.
You know it already startedbecause I was tattooing first
but I wanted to get some type ofpromotion like out there, you
know what I mean, and freddywould come all the time and
we'll be flowing and you knowthe fucking just doing our thing
and shit.
And then I I got to the pointwhere I was like you know what
I'm actually, I want to do itfor real, for real.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
You know what I?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
mean fuck it right
yeah and and this guy would
always motivate me he's like god, dude, we gotta take it day by
day and you know, just give itour all best, or whatever.
And yeah, I just fell for it,bro, and and ever since then
I've just been doing music andit's been working for me.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I love that man.
Where does your inspiration formusic come from, would you say?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Since I was a kid.
I grew up playing instrumentsin church Guitar, bass, piano,
all that stuff so it kind ofjust stuck around.
I played in several bands.
In school I played guitar and Iplayed in jazz band and then I
started playing bands that I wasplaying, like Tool, slipknot,
korn, all the good new metal and90s and early 2000s.
(09:50):
So the band that I'm in rightnow we basically that's the
style that we got going on.
It's like early 2000s.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So it's kind of like
that Houston sort of.
What is it Like?
Suicide Boys?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Kind of like imagine,
like a imagine like a Suicide
Boys, but with rock okay, okay,with a little bit of guitar.
You know what I mean.
A lot of people do compare usto the suicide boys, but I like
to say that we have a verydistinct sound, um, when we have
our, when we add our rock to itso I watched, uh, freddie me,
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and freddie watched two of yourvideos.
Um, they're uh wow, so it's you,and uh, you have another yeah,
so my, it's me and my brothertroy, oh, my brother, right from
another mother, but my brothertroy, uh, we, uh, we're the ones
that uh started popular learnerthat's awesome.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Um, there was one
thing it paused at the very end
of the video and then you guyssay something super funny and it
it was like hilarious.
What was that, freddie?
I can't remember.
This is a trip.
Oh, this is a trip.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No this is a trip.
No, the way that thing was done, man, and it was amazing.
It was an amazing video.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Oh yeah, and that one
.
I took a puff and I don't haveany tattoos and all of a sudden
my tattoos appear and stuff withthe weed.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, I remember that
one, I was like very impressed,
like I mean everything Musicamazing.
What do you have like futureplans with that?
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
we have a lot of
future plans.
Actually, you say you have aconcert soon.
Yeah, so we have a.
We're going to be at the viper,at the, at the viper arena, um,
here in and in, uh, here inedinburgh, and uh, it's gonna be
on february 14th, onvalentine's day.
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But the good thing about it is,before anybody said, well,
that's valentine's day, look,you're gonna go enjoy a badass
basketball game, a badassconcert.
They're gonna be giving outroses, they're gonna be giving
out like candy, you know.
So they're, they're.
They're making it like really,really badass basketball game, a
badass concert.
They're going to be giving outroses, they're going to be
giving out candy, so they'remaking it really, really badass
there for the couples and stuff.
It's a great way.
The tickets are only $8.
They usually go for like $25,sometimes more.
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The tickets are only that much,bro.
That's awesome.
On.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Valentine's Day yeah,
vipers Arena, that's where you
go for you watch thosebasketball game, right?
Yeah, um, your brother, uh,from another mother, troy.
Can you tell me a little bitabout him and how you guys came
to be and uh?
Uh started doing music together?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
yeah.
So I hit up his dm, I slidthrough his dms and now, um he,
uh, basically we contacted eachother and I had seen him, like,
made up, make a song, right, andI told him, yeah, bro, you got
some, you got some badass uh uhmusic.
Yeah, you know we should linkup one of these days or whatnot.
And he was like, yeah, so oneday we ended up linking up and
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we ended up doing I don't knowif you saw that video that had
like AI in it.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Freddie, what was the
first one we watched?
The second one, the first video?
Which one was that one?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
The green lowrider oh
, gtfo.
Yeah, that bitch, get the fuckout of here.
Okay, that was more like ourrap stuff, yeah, Okay.
Okay, that was more like ourrap stuff, yeah, okay.
So we actually kind of blew upwith that song and with the one
I'm telling you that has like AIin it.
The one that has AI in it gotus into the news.
No, they hit us up from thenews Channel 4, channel 5, you
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know, the Spanish channel, andthen GTFO opened doors up in the
hip-hop world and so every timethere's like a hip-hop artist
or whatever, they hit us up.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
That's what's up,
dude, and this is just all off
of YouTube.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
YouTube and all
social, all platforms, yeah yeah
, we're everywhere.
We just I think the lastconcert that we had was with
mexican ot.
We opened up for mexican ot and, uh, we pulled up in a green
lowrider to the stage.
We just try to be differentthan everybody else, bro.
We try to put on a show, yeahthat's.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
That's amazing man.
I'm pumped for you guys.
I am pumped for you guys.
I am pumped for you guys.
Straight up Popular Loaner.
How'd you come up with the name?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
The name.
So my friend Troy already kindof had the name and he was like,
look bro, I wanted to do thisclothing brand and call it
Popular Loaner.
And then I was like, nah, fuckthat, let's just make it into a
band.
And at first it was just me andhim, and then from there we
just we started adding more guys, which is the guitar player and
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the you know, shout out to Ozzy.
We recently are getting a newdrummer and a new bass player,
so we're just waiting on thatand we have our full band again.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
That's awesome man.
So from a band, question realquick uh, what does it take to
put together a song likeproduced all the way and like
you know out there, or maybe avideo too like so.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
So the way we do our
songs is, um, we get together
and sometimes I'm having a badday, sometimes he's having a bad
day.
We get one of our beats that wealready have there and we just
kind of, we, we put our feelingsin it.
So every single song that youheard from us it's a, it's like
a heartbreak song, because wewere both going through a
heartbreak time him with hisgirl, me with my girl.
(15:27):
You know what I mean, and itwas a lot of inspiration.
So we will go to the studio andjust create these things and
sometimes we would hear it andwe would sometimes we'll tear up
because we're hearing ourlyrics, but they're they're not
like, okay, this sounds good,let's say this.
No, they're actually comingfrom us and it's, it's been an
emotional ride, it's been, it'sbeen cool.
(15:49):
So whenever you hear our songs,you're hearing my story,
basically like in myrelationship, in my mind, going
through addictions, goingthrough, um, feeling like.
You're hearing my story,basically like in my
relationship, in my mind, goingthrough addictions, going
through feeling like you'realone, depression, and all that.
So I have several songs that,like they talk about that.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
That's awesome, man.
I think there's a need for that, like transparency, in the
world right now.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
And yeah, so it's a
big reason why I do this is for
mental health purposes, you knowyeah, I believe a lot in mental
health awareness and helpingpeople to have mental health,
because it's, it's, it's, it'sreal, bro, it's it's.
People think, nah, it's all inyour head, nah, it's, it's, it's
real.
Like this shit does come andattack you and some people are
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lucky enough to to face it andkeep going another day and some
people just give up.
You know it gets to the pointwhen people give up and and, um,
it's, it's our job, people likeus, it's our job to be able to
help those people too.
You know what I mean.
That's why I'm veryappreciative, like you, that you
do your podcast and you go andyou help people out and make up,
understand that there's more tolife than what they're living
(16:53):
you know what I Than whatthey're going through, because
everybody goes through something.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
So they're not alone.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
We just have to
remind them that they're not
alone and we're there to helpthem out.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Thank you for putting
it that way, because that's
exactly how I feel about it,from beginning to end.
Yes, sir, there are a lot ofvoices out there that just don't
get to be heard, for whateverreason, and I think it's
important for those stories, uh,for people to meet those people
.
Yeah, exactly, show that youcan get through things.
Um, um, I want to, since youknow we're on the mental health
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thing um, a lot of people fromdepression can turn into
addiction.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
They're running from
what they're dealing with in
their head or at home, and thenthey, you know, drugs can numb
you or alcohol can numb you yeah, bro, like me in my story and
and I I used to, I used to benot addicted but I used to run
to like drugs, cocaine, crack,um all that type of stuff, and I
would try to, and that shitwould numb me for a little bit
(17:53):
and it would stop me fromthinking all these thoughts
because I wasn't a very abusiverelationship, like.
I was always mentallychallenged, like challenged with
my emotions because, um, a lotof people they're like, well,
not that my wife would hit me ornothing, but she would like,
really like, get me through theemotional and and mental side.
Yeah, and sometimes, eventhough we have our friends and
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even though we have people thatback us up, sometimes, if we
feel that there's we need morethan that, so we run to drugs
and it numbs our being for acouple minutes or for an hour
and then but everything comesback and it comes times two,
because now we're, you're notthat, but you have all your
friends looking for you, andthen you have and all these
things, cause it's happened tome.
You know there's been timeswhere Freddie had to go look for
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me you know what I mean Causethey would say they couldn't
find me and and I do havefriends that do look out for me
and stuff, but we, we sometimeswe're hardheaded and we don't
just want our friends, we wantsome, which is the drugs.
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So recently that, um, I've beensober for for a good minute
already and like thanks to, to,like my fellow peers and like my
wife, like my fiance now, andlike god you know what I mean
I've turned my faith to god andhe's helped me out a lot as well
, and it's just, it's amazing,bro, it's it's, it's crazy how
you feel that this is going tobe true.
You'd be your life, for therest of your life, and things
just change, yeah, like, fromone day to another.
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You know what I mean, withoutyou even realizing it.
By the time you realize it,you're like, damn, like
everything's cool.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
It's badass, though
there's like a price that comes
with not giving up.
What do you think?
Yeah, boy, that's dope.
I love it.
Thanks, bro.
Hell, yeah, appreciate it.
We're still going to interviewand continue.
Yeah, yeah, definitely, but nowwe're just switching dudes now.
What do you think?
Dope?
Huh, freddie, that's nice.
Yeah, I know how much are youguys paying me for this.
(19:47):
Again Paying you with myfriendship, because I'm such a
good friend.
Lebron.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
James University.
That one you got to finish thatone too right.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yep, I sure do that
one.
Let's see, half my back needsto be done.
That's great.
I need some shading done on myfat.
I like that gait you're growing.
Thank you, that's my day one.
Autumn Hudson.
She's like crazy good.
But yeah, I am gonna need lotsof work done.
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To be honest, if you couldthink of a moment or a chapter
that was like a change of coursefor you in your life or a wake
up call Shit prison bro Prison,having a daughter and uh and um,
(20:44):
just caring about people'sfeelings or caring about other
people.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
You know what I mean,
cause we do a lot of stuff
without thinking and then wedon't know.
We don't know who we're hurtingin the process.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Being less selfish.
Right, yeah, like less selfish.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Music's my other
source of income, pretty right
there.
Why should we be asking you,since you're getting it first?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, that's perfect.
Yeah, cool, we got two music yo, is there any?
Because it's it's kind of justgetting to know you, um.
But I guess the way I explainthe podcast is uh, I didn't know
what I wanted to do with mylife, so I just started
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traveling, not knowing where Iwanted to go, what I wanted to
do with my life, so I juststarted traveling, not knowing
where I wanted to go, what Iwanted to do, um, so I moved
state to state to state to stateto state for the last 14 years,
something like that.
Yeah, and I made so manyfriends and relationships all
over the place that I can pickup my my life and move it to any
state I wanted to right now, ohyeah, and so I take that
everywhere I go and for whateverreason, people open up to me
(21:56):
very easily and, um, and Ihaven't done a lot of people
dirty in my life yeah, exactlyyeah.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
When you have a good
reputation for yourself and like
it depends on your character,like I, I feel like if you have
a good character or if you havepositive energy, it reflects
upon other people.
So as soon as you walk into theroom or like, let's say, right
now, like you throw thispositive energy and it's not an
awkward feeling or it's not likesomething like damn, like I
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don't know something feels weird.
You know what I'm saying.
I like to consider myself likethat I can go anywhere and like
doors are always open, butbecause of humbleness you know
what I mean and the way youcommunicate with people and like
it and just it doesn't matterhow you look.
Like I mean, I'm tired from thephase you're all tatted.
You know what I mean.
But they say that the peoplethat are most tattooed, those
are the nicest people ever broyeah, it's a lot of people like
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to stereotype, but then it'slike total opposite you know
what I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
That's a huge.
One of the main reasons why Istarted doing this is because
that I've moved to so manydifferent places where sometimes
people don't look like me.
There, right like montana ispredominantly caucasian, like
across the board, and I gotthere.
There's not a lot of tattoo,yeah, you know.
So it took a while for peopleto warm up to me, but now I
consider that place home becauseI've changed so much and grown
(23:14):
as a person there more thananywhere else, and I've learned
about other people there.
Like it's crazy, like we're alluh different but we're all so
alike in most ways.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
If people would just
sit down and talk to somebody,
yeah, of course, but you know,judging a book by its cover,
yeah it's because this, andpeople told me, it's because, uh
, I have a lot of friends thatare tattooed also or like just
very antisocial.
It's because everywhere I go,bro, it just feels awkward
because you're not going andtalking to nobody, you're not
engaging, you're just literallyjust there and you're just like
(23:48):
bro, engage, hey, what's up, bro, like I like your shirt I don't
know what the fuck that is, butI like your shirt, type of shit
.
You know what I mean?
Just engage, and from there youstart building.
That's why, everywhere I go,bro, like everywhere I go, I
tell people, look, we starttalking.
And then, as soon as they tellme, so what do you do for a
living, I'll be like well, I dotattoos.
Oh, really, and everybody wantstattoos.
(24:08):
You know People that are inmusic is like oh, I do music, I
do music too.
It's like, oh, yeah, for reals.
And I show them my music andthey're like what the fuck?
Like that's cool, yeah, younever know, right, yeah, and it
just opens new door, opens doors.
Like it doesn't matter whattype of music you do, like if
you have a strong, goodcharacter, bro, like it opens
doors anyway something that canbe taught, or do you think it's
(24:32):
just something that you're bornwith?
I feel like some people are justnaturally like that.
You know what I mean.
But there's some.
I've known most.
I've known people that havebeen super, super quiet, people
like they're all like yeah tothemselves when, when they were
younger, and then right nowthey're like pastors or
something yeah, yeah, you knowwhat I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
So I feel like you
just grow into it.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
You know what I mean.
So I feel like you just growinto it.
You know what I mean.
So since I was a kid, like I'vealways played music at church
and opened up services and likeI used to work at a coffee shop.
So I have a lot of likecustomer service experience and
talking to people.
You know I used to do mymorning influentials in the
morning, you know on live andpeople would tune in.
(25:14):
And you know on live and peoplewould tune in and you know, so
I, I uh, I'm already kind oflike used to it a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no stagefright.
Yeah, exactly, I perform onstage and I just go out there
and do my thing, bro, and mostof the time, like I'm just high,
honestly, you know, I mean it'snot like a, I don't, I don't do
it to to like, oh, I want to goparty and shit.
(25:36):
You know, sometimes I get out ofwork and I'm just like
frustrated and I'm like man, Ijust want to get paid.
You know I mean I'll take a dabor something, right, but most
of the most of the time I'm highbecause it just keeps me calm
and I'm just saying people don'tunderstand that and do you
think it's a because it'sillegal here?
Speaker 1 (25:54):
do you think there's
more of a looking down on it?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, I mean,
everywhere you go, people smoke,
bro, and right now, like you go, I have a friend and his name
is Trevor from Real CBD.
He has a CBD store and he hasstuff that's like legal but like
you see it, and it looks justlike the real thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, smells likethe real thing, feels like the
real thing.
Yeah, yeah, smells like thereal thing, feels like the real
thing, so it's like it trips meout.
(26:17):
Right, but are you ready?
yeah, yeah, um, like a deltaeight, delta nine like a delta
nine, but I don't know, bro,like that shit, just it hits.
But, um, yeah, I guess it'smore acceptable because, look,
I'll carry my pen with meeverywhere I go and and it just
outside of the parking lot ofWalmart or whatever and I just
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boom and relax and I just go inand it just keeps me from like
people, like because peoplestare at me because of my face
tattoos and when I'm high, likeI just really don't care, you
know.
I mean like, yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I guess, but.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I've learned to
accept that.
Hey, it's gonna happen, bro.
People who get tattoos in theirface, I mean it's gonna happen.
People are gonna look at youregardless, regardless, so you
can't get mad about it, yeah,unless they're literally like
just yeah, absolutely I've hadladies like I'm walking and I've
had ladies like hold on totheir purse tight and shit, oh
shit, it's like yeah, I mean, Idon't know, maybe it's just
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something passed down from their, you know, family, parents, you
know, just like.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Hey, that's a thing
we think.
People covered in tattoos arenot good people.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, that's just how
they were raised.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, how they were
raised, I'm ready.
What is your favorite?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
childhood memory.
My favorite childhood memorywas sitting down every Saturday
to watch Ninja Turtles onSaturdays cartoons that was my
favorite part love the NinjaTurtles too.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Who's your favorite
Ninja Turtle?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Raphael but why?
Because it's his attitude, bro.
He has a very distant likeattitude, like ignorant attitude
, like.
You know what I mean.
I feel like that's how I usedto be.
I feel that.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I feel that as you
can see, I'm fucking on my seat,
oh man.
How many times have you saidthat?
Huh A million.
I haven't said it in two years.
That's good for you.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Oh, that huh, I've
nailed it.
I said it in two years it'sgood for you.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Oh yeah, two years
off the sauce.
I'm proud of you, bro,congratulations, congratulations
.
And how long for you, freddie?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
uh, I've been sober
for I want to say like going to
two years.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Nice, I'm at like a
year and a half or less like a
year I did drink when I went tolouisiana.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
But it's because I
don't drink, bro, because when I
drink I think I'm allergic toit, because I started getting
like itches on the bottom of myfeet, on my hands, any kind of
alcohol, like anything.
Like when I would go to the barwith him, like sometimes I
would like I would drink alittle bit, but then I had like
that shit, and then I'll startfeeling like shit.
So, uh, I, I just didn't do itanymore, damn yeah.
(28:59):
But when I went to Louisianasince they were free and we're
in the, in the slot machines andshit, they, they would bring me
the drinks and I was like, fuckit.
I had one, nothing happened.
Then I did another one andnothing happened.
When I was about to order mythird one I started feeling it.
So I stopped, oh dang.
But I got pretty buzzed withthose two.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
That's funny.
Where's your happy place?
In the sky when I'm high.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Me, too.
That's one of my happy places.
The other happy place is beingwith my kids, spending time with
children, playing outside withthem, because in my heart I
still feel like a child, so Idrop down to their level and I
just have fun.
It takes me back like, if I'mdoing it, when I was younger
(29:47):
We'd go outside, play with thefake guns and go play soccer and
shit like that, still living.
Your kids Fall.
These kids fall, hurtthemselves and they start crying
and I tell them man up, man up,it's going to go away.
And then boom, you know what Imean.
So I'm trying to do everythingthat I didn't have growing up.
I had my mother and my father,but my father wasn't really the
(30:08):
type to like, well, let's goplay outside or anything or
anything.
He was always at work.
So I'm trying to balance that.
You know, being a dad and beinglike doing this music thing and
the tattoo thing and stuff.
And it's hard, bro, becausesometimes you just get focused
on one thing and it's like, damn, like, like you lose yourself
in it and then you're like yousnap back to reality.
You're like, wait, oh shit, Igot my family over here or I got
(30:30):
my kids.
I gotta you know what, insteadof going and going to the studio
or instead of getting thatextra tattoo that I could
probably I can do tomorrow, I'lljust take my kids to the park
or some shit you know what Imean like, yeah, it's easy to
get tunnel vision on somethingit does.
Bro, it don't get me wrong.
It's a real good thing to havetunnel vision and what you're
doing, tunnel vision and whatyou're doing and stuff, but um,
(30:52):
it, um, it's also not.
It's also good not to forget.
You know your otherresponsibilities Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yeah, what?
Uh, besides smoking weed, whathelps you find that balance?
Is there any other?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
thing God, god helps
you find that balance.
Uh, my fiance makes me, uhhelps me find that balance, like
my kids, you you know likesupport and stuff, so love that
um, what about your fiancee?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
your uh, would you
mind so?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
she's on her way
right now, but she, she, so she
works.
She's a director at thehospital, like she works for um,
for all the marketing and allthat stuff at the hospital and
big support bro.
She has, uh, four kids and allthose kids like like I've been
knowing her for four yearsalready so we already have an
establishment.
When I got you know how I wastelling you that I didn't really
(31:43):
have a lot of like cousins.
I would hang out with herfamily.
We're really close with herfamily.
It's like the opposite, likeall her family loves me.
So like cousins, aunts, uncles,you know what I mean.
So it's another.
It's like a mean my mom and mydad are always going to be my
mom and dad and I really lovethem a lot.
But that's like my family, youknow what I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Like it's just, it's
a crazy experience, bro.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
It's amazing, no.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I'm always so
appreciative that you know the
other side's family can bringyou in.
You know like cause there's,you know like because there's
you know other times, or that'snot a thing, yeah, so, oh, what
is the?
What's your favorite thingabout your?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
career.
I get to hurt people every day.
You're sick, I'm just playing.
No, oh, it's just.
My favorite part is just, um,meeting you people every day,
bro, like you guys and shit.
It's a blessing meeting youguys um, I already know Freddie,
right, but meeting you andstuff and homeboy over here and
(32:42):
just hearing people's storieslike kind of like what you do
and you're hearing everybody'sstory, you know what I mean.
And hearing the stuff thatpeople go through or why they're
getting tattooed, like it'sjust it's never boring, bro.
It's boring when they bring,like whenever people want to
come and get like a butterflytattoo or like you know shit or
(33:04):
whatever the fuck.
But I guess meeting the personand like, especially if they're
more open and they talk a lot,it makes up for it, because you
get to hear, like, whether it'sa fake story or non-story.
You're just hearing new storiesevery day.
It's kind of like prison, bro,prison.
I remember when I was locked up, um, I would hear all these
fucking people stories like likeoh, I should do this, I should
(33:25):
do that, and some were likebelievable, some were like oh,
my god, like yeah, bro, whatever, you know what I mean, but it's
it's, it's fun, bro, I likethat yeah, you don't know until
you know, right.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, two pet beavers
, oh, two pet peas.
What's some shit.
You just cannot stand.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Shit, I can't stand.
I can't stand cocky people.
I like to hang out with humblepeople and do shit like that.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
That was weird.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
The most humble guy,
this guy's ever met yeah this
guy's pretty humble.
He might look like a littlecocky prick but yeah, he's
humble.
I know he's always had my backand he's always come through,
bro.
And I hate avocado, Avocado.
I fucking hate avocado, bro.
I hate avocado, I know, but Ihate avocado.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
He's not coming to
the barbecue, then my guacamole.
I got not coming to thebarbecue, then, wait, my
guacamole.
I've got to make the home.
I've got a barbecue tomorrow at6.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
What do you mean?
Just because of that, I'm goingto show up.
Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
All right, we still
live in the same house.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
We still live in the
same house.
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
I got you In the gay
community, he community.
He's done well for himself.
Very proud of you, buddy.
So those are his questions.
Those are good ones, bro.
I think you have a future inthis prison.
Can we talk about prison?
Yeah, um, how did uh, how didyou?
How did you end up there?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
I ended up there
first like nah.
So so I was a good kid bro,like literally like I.
I like, I mean I grew up in theneighborhood or whatever and I
would do my shit, but like I was, I was a church kid, you know
what I mean and I would do likesome bad stuff just so people
could think I was cool, like myfriends and shit, like we'll
spray, pin a war, some shit.
You know what I mean.
But then, um, I started smokingat a young age, like like bud
(35:17):
after, like after school andstuff sorry, mom and um and like
from there it's, like you said,the people you hang out with.
That's the type of shit.
So I got caught up.
I used to sell coke and I gotcaught up not selling stuff but
like punching a guy because hedidn't pay me the 20 that I sold
him.
So I got an assault with bodyinjury and then I started
(35:42):
sending weed up north to mail,to fedex and stuff, and I got
caught up with that as well andI went to the feds for that.
And then the third time I hadgone to prison it was, um, I
used to sell crack and acrackhead just came up to me and
I was about to sell it to himand then a cop was coming, so I
kind of just booked it and hekind of followed me and I threw
the shit through to him.
And then a cop was coming, so Ikind of just booked it and he
kind of followed me and I threwthe shit through the window and
(36:04):
then, just, you know, I ended upcrashing at the courthouse in
Bronzo and I got sent to prisonfor that too.
So it was just because it wasthe house.
I didn't need to do it, but itwas easy money.
You know what I mean.
I just got out of prison.
I didn't want to do shit, likeyou know.
I mean that's a toughtransition, but you come out
thinking you're gonna do right,and it's just this.
(36:24):
All this other stuff comes toyou and they're like man, this
is easy as fuck.
I can do this, like I'm good atit.
You know I mean, um, and yeah,bro, from there I I just did my
time, I did my whole time andjust got back out in society in
2019.
I got out and I've just paid mydues to society and just been
you know as been who I am now.
(36:46):
It took a long process to becomethe person I am now.
But I mean, I don't regret it,bro.
It was an amazing journey and,like I said, I've met a lot of
badass people along the way andstuff, like freddie and a whole
bunch of my other friends andstuff and like it's all lead me
to being the person I am rightnow.
And like even the shop, bro,like everybody here's family, we
all fuck with each other.
We're all like, hey, man, thisis a unit, like we're all
(37:07):
together and stuff, like yeah, Iput my, yeah, I put my whole
faith in the whole tattoo familythat we have here at the shop
and it's, it's.
It's crazy, bro, like you know,I mean a lot of people think
that you can never change, or,oh, he's never going to change,
because a lot of people go toprison.
They just go back and they goback and they go back and they
go back.
But because they get used to it, they're like, nah, this is not
(37:29):
the life for me.
They put themselves in thatsituation.
You know what Life doesn'taccept me.
I need to be in prison, andthat was started to be.
Yeah, you know like, ah, fuckit, I'll just get locked up,
I'll do a little bit of time andI'll get out again.
But that's not the way to live,because your family starts
missing you.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Like everybody starts
missing you and it's just.
It's.
Some people don't got familylike that too.
And then they're just like whatother options do I have?
Um, so what was the the biggestwake-up call?
That was like all right, weain't never going back, we're
out for good, like when I had myson with my first marriage.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
That made me change
my mental, but things weren't
helping because of the person Iwas with.
And then I had my daughter andit made me change a lot as well
with my daughter.
But slowly that positive andthat wanting to change started
leaving me little by littlebecause of the place I was at
you know what I mean, therelationship I was in and all
(38:27):
that stuff, and it was justleaving.
That relationship really likeopened my eyes and realized that
everything that I've beenpraying for, when I thought like
God wasn't listening to me,like came to life.
Like you know what I mean.
He's like I needed to prepareyou for this.
You know what I mean and that'sI needed to go through that
(38:53):
storm and that preparation.
So that way led me to what Ihave now, which is to me as a
gift from him, you know, becausethis is what a coincidence like
I prayed for a family, he gaveme a me family.
I prayed for her family to likeme they all like me, you know
for peace, for love, for youknow I mean for a job, for
constant work, and it happens,bro, so you got it pretty happy
about that.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I love that bro, I
love that.
Where do we have?
We got your music.
We got tattooing um valentine'sday.
We got a's Day.
We got a concert right.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, we got a
concert on Valentine's Day and
we also have a show this Fridayat the White Rhino downtown
McAllen White Rhino, downtownMcAllen.
It starts at 10.
It's nothing, but if you likerock metal, you know death metal
, like all that shit.
They're going to be playing allthat shit Live music.
You recently hung out with theMexican OT right, yeah, that's
my boy right there, man, yeah,he's doing it big right now.
(39:47):
I've opened up for him.
The first time I opened up forhim was like two years, three
years ago, in Plainview, texas,and then I did it again in
Houston, and then I did it again, and so after seeing me for the
second time, he was like yo bro, I know you.
And started chopping it up.
This is before Diddy, beforelike all this, before Johnny
(40:08):
Dang, before all that shit Likethis was like when he was barely
starting, bro, and you know Iwas blessed to have chilled with
him.
We brought, they had broughthim down over here in far Texas.
We were chilling with him thereand then we that's when we
opened up this last show withhim.
That's when we came out.
We came out in a low rider, soit was pretty, it was pretty
badass.
That's awesome, it was prettycool.
(40:29):
There's the camera right there.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
So for the last, I
guess we'll finish up with.
Do you want to do any shoutouts?
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Shout out family.
Shout out to my wife, my kids,no.
Shout out to troy.
Shout out to the whole uh inkhouse, family.
You know, all the artists, um,my parents, and to everybody
that's watching who's goingthrough like depression or like
mental health or thinking thatyou know there's no escape from
the issues that you're having.
There is always an escape.
There's always someone there,you know.
And if you feel that there'snot just you know, all you got
to do is, you know, pray to godup there.
(41:03):
Don't I'm not encourage you tobe a bible hugger, but just, you
know, have a relationship withgod and he's there for you.
And call your friends up.
Tell them, hey, bro, I need you.
Come fuck around with me there.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
You go find yourself.
You'll know who your realfriends are.
Absolutely, absolutely freddie.
Thank you so much for your time, brother I I really appreciate
it.
And thank you, freddie I thinkyou're other Freddie now because
this Freddie's way cooler andthanks everybody and goodbye,
bye, goodbye.