Hanging with Humans Podcast | Episode 24 | Loddie - Hanging with Humans

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you get the time for a?

Speaker 2 (00:01):
dude tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
No, Okay, cool, cool, cool.
I know he was like crazy busytoday and he told me he was like
let's try for tomorrow.
I'll get a hold of you in themorning, Okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
And then try to set it up.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
You know, I'll play it by ear.
You know how to shoot it.
That's exactly what it is.
It's just one of those.
He knows what the plan isbecause I briefly sent him a big
description in the text message.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I'm gonna group text with my boy in la and him his
homie yeah, oh, because therapper dude yeah, so so he
linked us up and he's been likethe middle person uh but uh, but
yeah, that's, that's kind ofwhere we left it off.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
He was very busy today.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
But he knows what the deal is.
He got the whole spiel, heknows what's going on.
Yeah, cool, cool, cool.
I was just trying to make sureI didn't miss it, or if that was
the time.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
You're going to know as soon as I know, because
you're a part of it just as muchas I am at this point.
Yeah man.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
At this point, yeah I am at this point, yeah, man at
this point, yeah, so we're here,yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
We're like if I can work with somebody while I'm
here, like that's awesome.
I'm trying to learn as much asI can and, hell yeah, do as much
as I can with every.
Everything I look at is likeopportunity, you know.
Hell yeah, all right, uh, Idon't need the flash on there
like that.
I don't need that.
We got that.
And hello, welcome to Hangingwith Humans podcast.

(01:27):
It's me, rj.
I'm in Atlanta and I am heresitting with my guest Lottie.
How you doing, lottie?
What's?

Speaker 2 (01:35):
up brother, how you doing, bro.
Happy to be here, man.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, I'm excited to have you here.
I met Lottie yesterday, right.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, yesterday here um I met lottie yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Right, yeah, yesterday yesterday.
Um, lottie works uh at a spotwhere you make grills, right?
Yep, we're getting metro mart,metro mart and uh yeah, I went
over there to pick up my grilland we met and right off six
bottom Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep,yep, yep.

(02:07):
And, uh, my boy hooked me upover here and right away I knew
he was just like good vibes,like, right away, his, uh, his
attitude, his way, he carriedhimself, just a very friendly,
uh, you know, nice to talk to,very welcoming, welcoming person
, appreciate it.
Yeah, man, the podcast came upand he was like, how much do you

(02:30):
charge for something like that?
And I told him nothing, becauseit's all about the come up and
the journey and trying to helppeople along the way, because
ultimately, that's what it'sabout.
And so, yeah, we really agreedon that and we agreed on doing a
podcast, and he even moved theschedule around a little bit to
make that happen.
So I appreciate you doing that.

(02:51):
And then we even got some plansto work together tomorrow, even
as well, possibly.
So a lot could happen in onemeeting and interaction.
Literally, you never know whoyou can meet and who you're
going to become friends with andwhat that can bring you and
what opportunities it can bringyou.

(03:12):
With that being said, thanksfor being here, bro.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
I appreciate you, man .
I'm happy to be here, like Isaid before, man.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
What I do here with the podcast is I interview
people and I let them have aplatform to tell their story,
like where they came from,things they've gone through and
uh, what their plans are now andhow they're accomplishing their
goals and what their goals areand uh, things you've seen along
the way on your on your pathand your journey, and uh, yeah,

(03:42):
so I'm very interested in peopleand and how they work and uh,
so, yeah, if, uh, if you don'tmind, I'm gonna ask you some
questions and we'll talk about acouple different topics and
then we'll let you go becauseit's low-key, a little bit late,
but not a little bit late, butyou know, we made it.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
We made it happen.
Let's do it.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
We're going to make it happen every time, exactly
All right.
So, lottie, where's that namecome from?
So?

Speaker 2 (04:08):
when we were speaking earlier.
You know I was younger and Iwas outside all the time.
So you know, lottie comes fromLottie Dottie.
We like to party.
But you know, when I got olderI stopped partying.
So then I was just like, ah,can't just be.
Like, hey, what's your name?

(04:29):
Lottie Dottie?
It's like, ah, it's kind ofweak, but now I'm just like
Lottie.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
I like how it rolls off the tongue a little bit.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
I like that, and you were young Lottie for a minute.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, I was young Lottie.
I started off as young Lottiebecause I was like 19.
I was 19.
I was trying to find myself.
That was my like my brother.
He went to college, yeah.
So then it was like, well, shit, because you know who was going
through the same school?
For the most part, yeah.
But then it was like man whenhe was going to everybody at the

(05:02):
house and all my brothersaccomplished these big things in
life.
I need to make something formyself.
I don't want to be the guythat's just like oh, that's the
you know, so I decided to comeup with Young Lottie and I was
doing photography.
I started off as a photographer.
Bought a little cheap, little$400, spent my last $400.

(05:26):
Last $400.
My last $400, got a Canon T6with the kit lens.
Nice, and never forget it.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I started taking pictures and then my brother his
name is DJ Cutthroat he hit meup.
He told me he was like Ryan,I'm telling you, this is a job I
can pay you.
You know what we doing.
But I was like I want to takepictures of flowers.

(05:54):
So then he called me up and hehad a single with Lil Baby and
Rollo and it was called Lil Cali, in Pakistan, and he told me to
come to the video shoot.
Came there, Me being the personI am, I'm cool, I'm here, I'm

(06:15):
from that area or that side oftown anyway, so it was just like
fuck it, Came here, take somepictures.
I started networking Shot a lotof the few videos of the
artists taking pictures.
I started networking Shot a lotof the few videos of the
artists and the people that'sthere.
Every single one of them hitover 100K on YouTube.
There you go, it's on myYouTube.
So that kind of started theBecause I didn't even shoot

(06:36):
videos.
Yeah, yeah, like I was likefuck it, but I'm familiar with
it because I used to have likewindows movie maker and if you
know you know the real ones knowabout windows movie maker like
that's like ancient now, that'slike live wires yeah, yeah, yeah
, I remember um, but I wasfamiliar, so I started putting

(06:56):
it together.
And then I mean, obviouslypeople was liking the videos,
yeah so, and then that's when ittransitioned to videos and
stuff.
But I always shoot my videosfrom a photography angle.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
I think that's super important too is like being able
to come in from a differentlens and-.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, that's amazing.
So you started with photography?
Yeah, now videography is yourthing.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, videography is my thing, and I love how still
like for you know jewelry is.
That's my thing right now.
Yeah, I don't know, it might bemy thing for a while, Because
what I do I will say, though,I'm always a photographer at
heart, but I feel likeeverything still goes all hand
in hand, yeah yeah, yeah.
Cause you can do the photographyto get the product shots, to

(07:43):
get the commercials.
You know, I'm saying you tapinto your director side and then
at the same time you type tapinto your craftsmanship side of
making the, the jewelry and thegrills and the rings and stuff.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, yeah it all comes, yeah, and it's all
content.
So you know that's true, that'strue, that's amazing.
Um, so you grew up in thesouthwest metro Atlanta area,
yeah, zone 4, Campbell's Road,southwest Atlanta, Georgia,
right across from the S&SCafeteria.
S&s Cafeteria.
What was life like growing upthere around that time for you?

Speaker 2 (08:21):
It was cool.
It was cool, but it was like mygrandma's house.
Like my grandma's house was onhoneysuckle and we don't have
that somewhere, of course.
But and then my mom, they boughtthe house with my mom and dad,
but they bought the house likeright next door to it.

(08:42):
So we had the, the strict, theold, the grandpa, you can't go
outside, can't go down thestreet, because you know you are
on campus, bro, you can't beout here, just out here.
Yeah, yeah, but you know whatI'm saying.
We had our fair share of, like,good experiences going to the
park, but my dad would have usto wash the cars and do all this

(09:04):
slavery work and, uh, to beable to go to like the pool or
go to go across the street.
You know what I'm saying.
But it was a lot of characterbuilding moments.
But I will say, like itdefinitely had his, had his ups,
it had a lot of ups, that's hada lot of ups.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
That is good.
You did a lot of moving aroundbecause your mom and dad got
divorced, yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
So they split, and this one was on Kemper.
They split, I believe, 2001?
Because 9-11 was 2002?
.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yep, we talked about it, or 2001.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
No 9-11 was 2001.
Yep, we talked about it.
Or 2001.
No, 911 was 2001.
Yep, yeah, okay, so, yeah, sothey split 2001 Christmas
turning 2002.
So, whatever that was.
So what was in?

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Texas in 2002?
You went to Texas, yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
I went to.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Texas.
Went to Frisco, texas, yeah,and I want you to share a little
story here in a second.
Yeah, and I want you to share alittle story here in a second.
Before we get into that, whatwas the experience like as a
whole in Frisco and in Plano andthe other when you lived in
Texas, though?

Speaker 2 (10:15):
It was Texas.
It was Texas was fucking Texas.
Yeah, like Texas was.
It was like.
I see why people say don't messwith Texas, don't mess with
Texasxas you know I'm saying butit was.
It was definitely like a.
It was like a complete 180,though, because it's like you're
in a hood in campbellton andyou can't you can't even go down
the block, yeah, but in texaswe can.

(10:37):
We can go out and play outsideand have fun, and you just got
to be back before the streetlights come on.
Yeah, yeah, so it was cool, funwise, like being in, like
frisco and stuff like that,because now it's like you're
experiencing life regardless.
Rather, you just like beinglike confined to just what this

(10:58):
one area or have to do all thisextra stuff just to have a
normal life, kind of thing, andI thought that I was normal.
I thought it was normal likegrowing up in it, but getting
out of that environment andexperiencing other things is
like that's what was like.
Oh, this is different.
Life don't have to be likethat's everything.
So that was the the first likeeye-opener, kind of kind of

(11:21):
thing of living in frisco, butit was still texas early 2000,
so it was still like you'reblack yeah, and you're in frisco
and this is before.
Like I said before, theskyscrapers, the colors, all
this.
There was no money in frisco itwas just land, rural, it was

(11:43):
very rural.
It was very rural.
It was nice, though, because weget to have experiences and
stuff, but it was very rural.
That's what I learned aboutrace, because in Atlanta
everybody's black, but in Texas,especially in Frisco, it was a
lot of white people.

(12:03):
It was a lot of not evenMexicans.
It was a lot of white people.
It was a lot of not evenMexicans.
It was a lot of white people,the majority.
But that's when I learned howto talk to other people.
That's not black Versus, wejust kind of only dealing with
certain type of people.
That's when I became like, oh,there's Indians, there's
Mexicans, there's blah, blah,blah.
So now, that's when I becamemore versatile, yeah, with

(12:26):
talking to everybody.
Yeah, but it was crazy, it wasstill, it was a Culture shock.
It was a culture shock, yeah,it was a culture shock, like
from being everybody's black tobeing the only two black kids in
the school, in the school, inthe school, in the school,
school, and the school was crazy.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
That's crazy, it is that is a that's upside down.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
It's super upside down, but it was like, I was
like that black fritz to the, tothe everybody.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
That's also very cool .
You know what I'm saying?
I was that guy, so it was a lotof people loved the culture
like no matter what so and thenI'm from atlanta, so it was like
yeah, yeah, yeah, like nomatter what, and then I'm from
Atlanta, so it was like, oh myGod, ti, ti was popping.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
He was going crazy, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Damn.
Yeah, that's crazy.
So what's okay that story.
It was the kid in the class andhow you kind of got.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, so that's what I'm saying.
Texas was cool, but it was alsolike being the only two black
kids in school was like therewas another black kid and he was
a special needs, cool, cool,like cool kid.
But you can honestly tell, likeyou know what I'm saying he
going to need a little help orsomething like that.
But I'm such a gentle soul,like I'm cool with everybody, I
don't care what anybody is,because at the end of the day,

(13:48):
it is what it is.
But I didn't like the fact howthey were trying to this is
people with Frisco.
They were trying to make itseem like I was the same as him,
kind of, in a sense, not to saywe're completely different,
different, but it's like youdon't have to talk to me, like

(14:09):
yeah, like I don't understandwhat you're what you're saying,
yeah and that's when it came tolike picking on me because I was
different from everybody else.
So that was my first experienceof like discrimination.
Yeah, I wouldn't even sayracism, yeah, but I would
definitely say like they wasn'treally trying to rock with me

(14:30):
like that so then I got sentback to georgia because they
were trying to put me inalternative school.
My mom was like y'all not gonnado that damn.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
I can imagine that, as a mother too, being like hey,
you're not special needs kid,we're trying to put him in there
.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, we're trying to put him in attorney school
because like what he's a, butit's like I'd be a class clown,
you know so yeah but it was likeyou're gonna put me in attorney
school for making a joke like.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
I mean, were you like actingout or you actually being a bad?

Speaker 2 (14:58):
I wasn't like I wasn't acting out, but it was
like if you told me to sit down,I might be like, yeah, like
well, we're fucking, uh fucking.
Connor's not sitting down.
Connor's not sitting down.
What do I get?
Like?
Why I gotta sit down?
Why, out of everybody, why Igotta be one, they gotta sit.
It was like one of those kindof things you just gotta know it

(15:19):
did.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Uh, did you get out to texas?
Was it because the militarymoving situation or did you have
family out there?
No, it was the divorce.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, the divorce situation.
So it was like was she like mymom?
Well, no, no, we have to havefamily out there.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, we do have family outthere.
Her mom, my mom's older, soit's like her family is pretty
much like all gone, like parentsis.
Her dad was 103, and her momwas I don't even know.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah, you're telling me that's crazy, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
So my brother, my oldest brother, he was out there
in Texas, but I believe her momor her grandma was out there
too, like in West Dallas.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
And it was like Dallas, oak Cliff kind of thing,
and I believe that's why my momprobably felt comfortable going
to Texas, because you knowthere was some types of family
there.
Yeah, because her family wasgone, because she's from like
Columbus but there's not really.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
It's a lot.
Yeah, it's a lot, man, it's alot of hopping around, but
that's what?

Speaker 2 (16:24):
I guess the military that's what brought them,
because my dad from southcarolina and he was an army, he
was, uh, he, he flew blackhawks,oh nice.
So he was a pilot, yeah, yeah,and then my mom was the it air
force kind of, but then sheswitched it with the army and
that's when she met my dad.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
A lot of military, not military life.
Yeah, uh, was that cool for you?
Or did you not enjoy movingthat often?

Speaker 2 (16:52):
no, it was always dope, it was dope.
Only thing I had to say that,uh, which I don't regret now,
but at the time I was just likedamn, like getting moving every
two years because, that waspretty much like the contract or
whatever.
Moving every two years was likejust kind of like like moving
states every two years.
So it was like damn, like I wasin texas and now I'm in alabama

(17:14):
or now I'm in.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
You know, I'm saying things you appreciate now though
.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, the stuff I appreciate now is like, yeah,
that was definitely much needed.
That was definitely like ittaught me a lot.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Taught me a lot going right through life.
Uh, you went to texas.
Uh, what's 2002, 2003?
What were you doing around?

Speaker 2 (17:37):
no, that's still texas so that's right yeah
that's still texas 2003.
I got sent down because it waslike a apparently it was half a
semester but I had to stay withmy dad and that shit felt like I
swear that shit felt like itwas like two years.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
That was in Atlanta.
That was in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
I came back to Camelton because they were still
living there For mine remembermy mom just not escaped, but
escaped, kind of thing becauseit was like they broke up and my
dad was tripping so for her toescape and then have to like

(18:13):
send me back because they'reputting me in alternative school
from him.
It's kind of like damn.
Now, now thinking of it as anadult, it's like damn, like
that's a big risk.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying because it's like you
know, but everything worked outwent down there.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
That shit was like fucking boot camp, literally.
It was like boot camp, bro.
And then, uh, then my mom endedup moving down with my brother,
and then they came down but,that time, before they came, it
was just me and my stepbrother,because he was dating somebody
else at the time.
And, um, yeah, that's like oh,three or four, yeah, it's just

(18:51):
like oh, three or four, and thatwas, she was dating somebody,
he was dating somebody else atthe time.
And, uh, that's when I had astepbrother.
Yeah, he was in.
Uh, he was also, you know, hestayed over there, so he was, uh
, he went to Westlake, so he'sstill Southwest Atlanta, but
he's still.
He taught me how to dance,taught me how to talk to girls,

(19:12):
taught me that whole spielwithout being my blood, but he
treated me as blood.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
So that's when.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
I realized, like okay , just because you're not blood,
don't mean that you're notfamily, because there's people
who not related to you, whoreally gonna do everything they
can for you, just just becauseyou know, that's really out
there.
So that's when I wasexperiencing that kind of thing,
because you know, at first it'slike we was talking you know
your family and that's it, andthat's pretty much you know.

(19:38):
But there's people out herethat's.
They're gonna treat you betterthan your family sometimes you
know, learn a lot of things fromother people.
That's matching, that's facts.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
So I I spent a lot of my life, uh, on my own, you
know, basically, and I had.
That's how I have a lot of otherfamilies that I like consider
family you know like closepeople like I consider family we
don't share the same blood, butclose people like I consider
family we don't share the sameblood, but they would do more

(20:07):
for me than you know anybody,right, yeah, which is crazy, but
that's.
But I love it, though, andthat's like and I've traveled so
much and you travel a lot likeyou get to find that and build
that, because you don't knowwhat's out there until you leave
, right, right, literally, uh,that's the thing that we uh kind
of have in common as well a lotof traveling and understanding
how important that is for, like,personal growth and chasing

(20:32):
your goals and things like that.
Do you want to speak a littlebit about, like, what traveling
has done for you?

Speaker 2 (20:51):
I felt like traveling open.
It expanded my mind at an earlyage because shit, from 96 to I
think I was like five, six, youknow what I'm saying Going
across the country.
You were from Georgia to Texas,that's across the country.
You know what it is Like damnyou're halfway there, you know.
So it was like justexperiencing and being in a car
on a long ride, Like that's whyI can drive anywhere.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
I can hit the city.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
My limit is 16 hours.
Anything over 16 hours I'm likeall right.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Might have to take a break.
You know what's up, bro, butyou know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
But I can do a 16-hour road trip easy.
I know what to do.
There's no stopping you.
Better have a big cup you knowwhat I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
You know how to do it , bro.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
But traveling definitely opened my eyes and
then, especially when I got mypassport.
I got my passport and that'swhen, that's when shit really
changed Really.
That's when shit really changed.
That's when it was likeAmerica's cool.
But you can also take this shitfor granted, because over there

(21:46):
it's not.
I went to DR and they was likeyou have a microwave, we don't
have no microwave.
They said this is the Dominicanmicrowave.
It was basically an oven, butit was a damn.
It was just some cement Nigga,it was fire you feel me it was a
fire, it was a damn fire, itwas a damn.
it was just some cement it was,it was some, it was, it was fire
.
But you know what I'm saying?

(22:14):
I love and appreciate shit likethat, because it was just like
dumb folks really out here haveto make a fire like and you out
here complaining about yourcurtains and shit.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
They don't have curtains, they don't have.
They don't even got a toilet.
What are you talking about?
They don't even got a toilet.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, but it's cool though, like it really.
I think DR was really.
That's where I really likechanged my outlook on things
Like I wanted to get land, Iwanted to get my pilot license.
And then look on things likewanted to get land, wanted to
get my pilot license, oh because.
And then, uh, circling backwith my dad, he had a flight
simulator as.

(22:51):
So as a kid you know that'sjust expensive as fuck.
Like, imagine, like early 2000with a goddamn you know a legit
one legit one, like it came witha manual and a damn like
license, you know because it wasyou know so, from flying planes
on the little uh, the game orthe simulator or whatever to
learning, it's like I have to,bro, like I want it, like if

(23:14):
shit hit the fan, I want to beable to fly out of america.
Yeah, you know.
Yeah, you don't want to be likeI'm stuck here and it's like
you could have.
You could have had landsomeplace else and then you've
been cool off your land, yeahbut you can't even get to your
land, because you don't know howto get there, because you can't
fly yeah so, but traveling, Ilove traveling, open my eyes to

(23:35):
a lot of things, and it made mevery uh, open-minded.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah yeah, uh, dominican, what's your, uh,
what's your favorite place thatyou think you've gone to to
visit?

Speaker 2 (23:47):
we gotta be dr yeah, like we went to dr, been in
jamaica, uh, been to mexico afew times, nice, yeah, puerto
rico, but dr was like, becauseit was, that was a culture shock
too.
Yeah, because it was like haveyou ever been?

Speaker 1 (24:05):
no, okay, well, basically I'll be there one day.
Right, you're gonna be thereone day, it's not.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
It's not too shabby either, because it was like
everybody's like black yeah butthey're just cunk and they got
it, like the haitians and dryeah no, the haitians and the
Dominicans.
My bad, when I went there andthey gave us the tour and my
tour guide I forgot his name,but he was super dope.

(24:32):
He really broke down the real,real history the fact that Haiti
and DR is separated by afucking boulder, just one big
ass rock it's like they reallyhate each other, yeah, one was
talking about a french one wastalking about a spanish yeah uh,
the spaniards and like, forexample, what was uh me and my

(24:54):
fiance we was at uh someexcursion, like one of them
catamaran kind of things, but uh, you know they was trying to
the haitians.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
He was trying to sell his whatever, trying to you
know whatever, trying to getsome money or whatever for the
tourists.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
But the Dominicans was like get the fuck out.
It was like some gangbang.
It was like some Bloods andCrips, shit, I swear to God.
And it was just like bro we'reall black here, bro he's trying
to make his money, just like howyou're trying to make your
money.
If he came up to me first, youfeel me.
You should have been on it, yeah, but it's like he was

(25:27):
outnumbered by the Dominicansbecause he's in DR, so they
really treat him like shit, Damn.
And I didn't realize that untillike I seen it.
I was like damn, that shit'severywhere.
That's crazy.
But it's because the Dominicansbelieve that they're superior

(25:47):
because I think the Spaniardshave more money.
And then you know, haiti losttheir independence and all that
stuff.
Well Haiti gained theirindependence and all that stuff
from fighting off the shit, butthe DR they still running by
whatever, so they're like fuckit.
We don't really give a fuckabout supplying their wolf

(26:08):
whatever, so it sucks, but it'slike y'all separated by a
fucking rock.
It's the same land and y'alltreating each other like it was
just crazy.
So that was a culture shock,but it's really just a whole
bunch of black people speakingSpanish.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Like he looked just like me, just speaking Spanish,
and he was just fucking speakingSpanish.
I was like, yeah, that wascrazy Dang.
Yeah, that had to have been anexperience for sure.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, because it was like because I thought it was
going to be like oh okay, youknow some Hispanic people, they
look Hispanic yeah.
Yeah, yeah, this looked like aregular black man.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
He blightman.
He just speaks spanish, so itwas like that it was.
It was dope bro, you gotta go.
I want to check it out.
I know I'm gonna go to puertorico.
Uh, my boy, uh man, why?

Speaker 2 (26:52):
have you forgotten his name?

Speaker 1 (26:54):
uh, but one of the homies, he's got a.
He just bought a house outthere and he's like come out,
everything's on.
You know, come chill, you got aplace to stay, I'll show you
around puerto rico puerto rico.
Yeah, I'm gonna do like athursday to a monday or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
That's definitely long enough yeah, where's he at,
like san juan yep, yep, yep,yeah, but go to it he just tore
stuff like on the side.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
He was in the military, but like he's out now
he does that that's lit.
Yeah, um, yeah, I know, buttraveling, I think it's a huge
part of just like growth andfinding new perspective and
always looking for like the nextstep in life.
Yeah, um, I know another majorshift in your life happened when
you had your first kid.
What was that moment like?

(27:34):
And and uh, kind of explainwhat did change.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Because it was like yeah, it's like to be completely
transparent.
Man, this is how, this is howit can happen to people, and I
want people to like look at mystory and be like damn, you know
what I'm saying, cause shithappens, but it's life, so you
just roll with it.
But this is also how you'resupposed to like handle your

(28:02):
responsibilities and deal withit.
Deal with the shit.
So mess around with a girl.
This is my baby mama now.
Mess around with a girl.
This is my baby mama now Messaround with her.
And my mom always put me on game, which is why I was always
slipping, and this is why it canhappen to anybody.
Because I was the one out ofthe friend group that was like

(28:24):
fuck no, I ain't having no kids,I ain't doing none of that shit
, because I know how shit be.
And seeing how my olderbrothers like experienced that,
it was like fuck no, I'm notgonna do it, I ain't doing none
of that.
So, and I don't have nosiblings under me.
So it was like I'm not gonnatake care of you know what?
I'm saying so, um she, she toldme she couldn't get pregnant,

(28:47):
kind of thing which is a majorred flag.
That was the first red flag mymama always told me as
elementary't get pregnant kindof thing, which is a major red
flag.
That was the first red flag mymama always told me as
elementary school.
She said if a girl ever tellyou that they can't get pregnant
, run from it, don't believe it.
Damn it but she was showinglike documents.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Oh man.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Like something's wrong, something like shit.
So part of me and I'm young,I'm like 19.
So part of me and I'm young,I'm like 19.
So part of me is like damn, shereally can get pregnant.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
She's on paperwork.
She pulling up the Guccipaperwork.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
So I'm like shit, this is free game, this is
awesome.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
I'm not trying to get you pregnant.
Anyway, you can't get pregnant,yeah man, I'm about to shoot
the club.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah so what's my calling um?
She gets pregnant like not evenlike hard like it was, like it
was like easy, like somethingjust boom, just shot you know it
was just like oh, so mine justhappened to just be the cure of
it.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
What about that paperwork?

Speaker 2 (29:53):
You know what I'm saying what about the paperwork?
What about the paperwork?
So she gets pregnant.
And then I was like so you knowme, I'm like, you know, I'm Mr
Plan B, you know what I'm saying?
We can go ahead and go to theCVS, real quick spend the 50.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Or CVS, real quick spend the 50.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Or if you know about the other one, you know you
spend the 35 or the 40.
You know, but it was apparently, you know, it was too late
after that and she was like I'mpregnant, so I'm like shit, we
can, you know, let's go to the,you know, yep.
And she was like no, I'm not,I'm not with that, I'm not with
that, yep.

(30:27):
So I was like whoa, whoa, whoa,whoa, not, you know, not saying
that, you know.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
But when she said that instantly I was like, yeah,
it's fucked up, it's over.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Like it's a wrap.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Like the life is over .
Yep, it's over, because now Igot to go prove my mom wrong
about.
Like no, she's not like that.
She wouldn't do that.
She did all of that shit.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Everything mom said, so this is a lesson learned man.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Don't ever believe that shit.
No matter if she got paperworkor anything, don't ever believe
it.
But if it happens, bro, at theend of the day, ain't nobody
tell you to do what you did, bro, true that?
So, just accept yourresponsibilities and just deal
with it, because now me and mydaughter are cool as fuck there
you go yeah, there it is.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
That's the best advice you'll get on this piece
right here.
That's what's up, so you gothrough that process.
What things did you learn frombecoming a father and what did
that look like for you?
Because you and the baby momare not together right now,
correct?

Speaker 2 (31:38):
yeah so um a lot of growing up quick, I assume,
right, yeah, it was like but seethat that was also the um, the
difference in um, the differencein between my choice and like
other people's choices.
Yeah, because at first ain't alot like.

(31:59):
I used to think, like whenpeople be having baby mama,
drummers and shit, I was likethey're like you, you doing some
dumb ass shit.
Like you know, I'm sayinglike're clearly you're gonna get
mad, but you wanna come home atfour in the morning and you got
a pregnant baby mama here andyou talking about you going out
with your you know what I'msaying so I'm like obviously

(32:20):
it's your fault, but I feel likeif you was cool then you
wouldn't have that problem.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
I still have that fucking problem.
So it was like it was ass, butit was um, it was, it was, it
was a time man, it was a fuckingtime it was a time because it
was like I made the choice toshe's pregnant.
When I said my life is over, I Iwas like I have to get my shit
together.

(32:50):
That's true, I have to get myshit together.
I have to do something.
I have to be a great examplebecause I'm not going to come
from this strong, powerfulbloodline and be a fucked up dad
or be like a you know what I'msaying Irresponsible,
irresponsible.
So I was like fuck it, I'mgoing to get it and, you know,

(33:16):
did everything I can.
Went to every appointment.
I was that guy Like you knowwhat I'm saying.
I was that dude.
I went to every fuckingappointment Because I was lit,
because I was like, at the endof the day, I'm thinking because
I ain't want to do thattwo-parent household shit, yeah,
so I was like man, whatever wegot going on, we're gonna work
it out, yeah we're gonna do ourpart.

(33:37):
So I went to every appointmentpay for everything, you know I'm
saying, knew a couple peoplethat was, you know, had hookups.
Yeah, I was getting the hookups, you know I'm saying, and three
months after she got there, wasborn and she broke up.
Yeah, what the was what?
another dude who was, who turnedout to be her second baby daddy

(33:57):
yeah and you know what I'msaying fiance too, he proposing
everything, but it was like shekind of like took the baby and
kind of like tried to push youout the way, type shit, and try
to let him come in.
And then it was like you knowthat shit.
But so then it's like you haveto build the what's it called A

(34:22):
new relationship.
No, when you have to like, whenyou never experience some like,
you never experience some shitlike that.
So you have to like prepareyourself.
Never experience some like you,never experience some like that
, so you have to like prepareyourself.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
There's no way to prepare yourself for that.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
But yeah, you got to go through that.
You got to go like you got todeal with your daughter calling
another person dad and yeah,being around and you want to be
around but you're not evenallowed to be around because the
mom's not letting you.
It's like this nigga around.
It's like who the fuck is thisnigga you know, kind of thing.
Sorry to say it like that.

(34:54):
No, you're good, you're good.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
But, yeah, life is unexpected, you know, yeah,
that's facts.
But I think as human beingswe're like the most adaptable
things and we can you, you know,like we have it in us to to
change in our environment, tothat environment, like we're
really special creatures and and, uh, I don't know.

(35:19):
I'll talk about like thespirituality stuff in a little
bit.
But uh, before we go into that,uh, your first jobs were like
mcdonald's right uh, yeah, I gotfucking.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
No, my first fucking job ever.
I worked at a U-Haul.
I was lit Because I remember Itold you like $7.25 was like
minimum wage yeah, minimum wage,yeah.
And I think they was payinglike $11.
And I was like I'm fucking rich, yeah, I'm rich $11 an hour.

(35:52):
So, because you know, everybodyelse paychecks like 200, like my
paycheck is like 400, oh, youknow what I'm saying.
So I'm like I'm fucking up, I'mold and I'm only eating
mcdouble's and small fry.
I am old, bro, you're doing it.
Um, got fired from that shit.
I guess I suck.
I guess I suck, but I learnedhow to drive like big ass, like

(36:13):
box trucks, yeah, yeah.
So now I can easily drive 26footer truck, easy, like I can
drive a big ass.
I can drive a camper, noproblem.
There you go, but from you.
And then I got, uh, startedworking at mcdonald's and then I
worked at finish line atcumberland, there you go.
And then that's when I was doingthat.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
On your own jobs, as in your hustle, as in your grind
, on your path.
Tell me a little bit how yougot into the grills, the
business of that, okay cool.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
So around the time see, that's what happened the
grills happened, happened, thegrills happened.
The grills happened because Iwas having my grills in and I
was feeling myself, cause thiswas still around 1920, remember,
I told you.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
It was about that time.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
I had the fucking grills in and I found my baby
mama.
That's what happened.
So, around that time, how I gotinto it, because I kept buying
the grills.
I kept buying my grills fromSETI it was SETI's gold tee I
don't know if it's still there,no more, it's in a little five
points on the corner and keptbuying a little cheap ass.

(37:25):
Well, it wasn't cheap, it wasstill like $2.
Now, knowing what I was, thequality, what I was getting and
me doing it, now I was like, ah,you just get over, all get me
yeah but uh, he knew what he wasdoing, he knew what he was
doing, just just taking my money, taking your money.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
So you're still feeling yourself, though yeah, I
was still feeling so.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
It was good for like the first two months.
And then, you know, I startedlooking all wrong and shit, but
uh, well, what you gonna call it.
Um, I was buying grills.
And then I stopped going toseti and I started going to this
other guy his name was, uh,kenny and greenbrier.
He was in greenbrier discountmall and I kept buying.

(38:03):
I was buying silver at the time.
I was silver, uh, a type adiamond cut.
I was one of those guys, nice.
So then I kept losing them,kept putting them in the napkin,
kept putting them in my pocket,had open faces.
It bent.
Yeah, because I didn't care,because it was like, okay, I'll
just buy another one.
Yeah.
And then that's when he waslike you buy so many grills, you

(38:25):
might as well learn how to makethem like joking yeah but I was
like okay, and he was like areyou serious, like you really
want to?
oh my, yeah, I'm not working I'mfucking like.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah, yeah like.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
So I was just hanging out at the uh, the jewelry shop
and I always was like amazed onthe craftsmanship that goes in
behind, like being like a benchjeweler and stuff like that,
because it's like, bro, you'rereally making some shit, you're
melting and maneuvering metalsand making a damn cumulant or

(39:00):
making a wing or making a grilllike you're making.
You're doing a lot of shit yeah,it makes some grills and I feel
like people don't reallyunderstand, like, like the stuff
that goes into making a grill,because you got to be damn near
a dentist to get them, to getthe mold impression, yeah, and
then you got to know how to castand then you got to know how to

(39:21):
melt down golds and materials,so it's like there's a lot that
goes into it, yeah, and then youpop them on, yeah but you know,
that is a lot.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
I didn't know it was like the other shit like it's
like bro, it's like I didn'tknow.
It was like that.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
It was like fuck, I'm like, damn, it's like this.
That's crazy, it's a lot hotterthan what I thought you just
pop me in real quick right, butum yeah.
So I started like interningwith him and he took me in like
showed me everything like I'llalways respect him.
He's always show love like.
Showed me everything Like I'llalways respect him.
He's always show love Like.
And he's seen my firstborn whenyou know, when she was like

(39:58):
infant.
Yeah, yeah.
So now it's like fucking likefinna be nine, like that.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
So he's been around, he's been there for you.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
He's been there, it's like good been there.
He's been there, it's like good, that's good.
So that's one of your mentorsin in that sense.
Yeah, in that sense, as far asthe jury, the doing, that he's,
he's definitely, he's prettymuch it like he's.
That's that's all I reallyneeded, kind of thing I had like
, of course, like peopleinspirations, like johnny dang

(40:28):
and Dang and Crime Rules andpeople that's doing this stuff
in Houston, because we hadsomebody his name was Eddie Gold
.
I still want to meet him tothis day because he was the
grill guy in Atlanta back in the90s and early 2000s, stuff like
that.
I think he stopped, though Idon't know, but he was the guy.
You know what I'm saying and Ifeel like I keep having this

(40:51):
vision of me being like thatcool guy I feel like I'm gonna
be like the guy, but I alwayswanna I still want to meet a man
like of this generation.
I want to be the eddie goesyeah you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (41:03):
keep them dreams, just like that, bro.
You got it.
That'd be cool.
That'd be cool, hey, if you canenvision it and see it, then
that's already.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
I feel like I feel like it's.
That's what's happening, though, because it's like I'm already
cool yeah, and it's like whywould you not want to get your
grill from somebody that's fromatlanta, in atlanta?
Yeah so it's like it doesn'tget no bread, like I'm not the
guy that you gotta, I do themolds and I send it off.
It's an experience me.

(41:31):
I cut my own damn thing tryingto make your shit because you
got tiny little crooked teethtiny little crooked teeth dang.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
So is the impression that?
Did that take a while for youto learn how to do that
correctly?
Hell yeah, I was so ass.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, I was ass damn how hard is it?
like, like everything is realsensitive, like everything is
like you only got one shot andif you fuck it up, you fuck it
up, yeah, and but that's thething.
It's like it's really a tradeand that's why I feel like I

(42:06):
really appreciate it morebecause, mind you, working at a
metro mart, I just startedworking there like march.
So shit, a month, like you knowwhat I'm saying, it's really a
month.
I've been there for a month, so, but it's it's.
It's a um, it's really a trademan, because I'm so much better

(42:31):
than what I'm doing now.
And he's in H, you know the guyI work with my boss.
He's telling me like shout outto H man, he's a nice dude.
He's a nice dude man, but hetold me like you have to polish
like a hundred times.
But I know like my mom.

(42:55):
She used to tell me, like backback in the day, that in order
to be a master, you gotta, yougotta do it.
You gotta put in 10,000 hours.
I think that's what she used tosay.
She's gonna you.
You need to put either athousand or ten thousand hours
to master the masters.
Yeah, and that's a lot offucking hours like because he
was like.
He wanted me to do like a.
He wanted me to polish ahundred grills, because you know
that's the only how you'regonna be able to get better is
if you're actually doing it.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
So it's the work nobody wantsto do, but you gotta do it yeah,
you gotta do it.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
That's the only.
That's.
The only way you're gonna getbetter is if you do it, kind of
thing so the melting downprocess is that difficult?

Speaker 1 (43:25):
hell?
No, that's just lit, is it?

Speaker 2 (43:26):
it's literally like you got this big ass blowtorch
and you're just like meltingdown gold, bro, just imagine.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
You're just in this bitch like fire flame.
You can make sick videos withthat.
I did.
I got in a slow-mo.
Yeah, it's super slow-mo too,and it's like when you melt down
gold.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
It turns into like a little golden bubble.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
You know what damn.
I put it like a slow-mo, so itwas like switching around.
That's tight, that's it, that'stight dude.
So, yeah, that that's amazing,man.
I'm really I'm excited to likethat we met and we're able to
chill and now I can watch thisjourney of yours and it's, it's
tight man right, bro, and you'regonna be right there.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Damn right, you'll be right there, man.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
You right, you'll be right there, man, you're going
to be my grill guy for life,Right For life, the homie for
life, anybody.
Yeah.
So if anybody wants to get agrill, you can come down to
Atlanta and go see my boy,Lottie.
Maybe, man Mr Same, day Mr Same.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Day, mr, same Day Grills, you made it happen, I
definitely made it, we made ithappen.
Made it happen, missed the sameday, man, I love it, bro.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
So influences you having brothers.
That was pretty big for kind ofguiding you in those teenage
plus years.
What did you learn?

Speaker 2 (44:44):
from your brothers I learned what to do and what not
to do In a very vague but simpleway.
I feel like I don't know.
I feel like that speaks a lot.
It's like, you know, havingbrothers, I saw every last one
of them like mistakes or likedecisions that they could have

(45:05):
did differently, yeah, and I'veseen how it affects them.
But since it's not my choicethat made the decision, I'm able
to see how their life playedout with dealing with that
situation.
But it also taught me, like,like, for example, with my other
uh brother, he um got arelationship.
He was in relationship forseven years with this girl, had

(45:29):
no intentions of marrying herbecause he knew that like it
wasn't that.
But at this point, bro, youjust wasted seven years of your
life yeah, girl, that you haveno intentions to do yeah, yeah
yeah and he's uh, um, still.
Then it's like you get out ofthat relationship and it was a
toxic one.
So then you got out of thatrelationship.

(45:49):
Then you thinking that you knowwhat I'm saying you, finna, go
meet somebody new.
Now the new person ain't as badas the old person, but this new
person's still shit, stillshitty, shitty, ass like super
shitty.
And now you done spent two yearswith this person.
It's not even nine years gone.
You done spent your whole 20s,early 20s, in a fucked up

(46:13):
relationship, not reallyexperiencing shit because you're
trying to deal with that.
But that like you got me fuckedup If you think I'm finna waste
nine years seven to nine yearswith somebody, and not be that,
I'd rather it be like look, ifwe ain't doing it, then we ain't
doing it.
I just you know not to say Iwish they didn't get pregnant,

(46:34):
but it was like you know,because when you have a baby
with somebody now you're tiredof them and it's like I really
got to deal with your assInstead of just like not having
no kids and if that's it, you'redone.
You're done.
You just learned from yoursituation and you know
everything's a lesson to belearned True.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
At least you got to look at it that way.
Some people don't yeah, peopledon't.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
But I definitely do, because seeing how everybody's
own situation plays out, it'slike you know what's going to
happen, but at the same time,it's a lot of pressure on you,
because it's like my mom alwayssay you can't say that you
didn't know.
Yeah, you've seen it.
You've seen it plenty of times.
Yeah, you experience it or knowsomebody that did it.

(47:19):
So you're not gonna sit hereand act like it's not able to
happen.
You still chose to do it, soyou just gotta you know you
gotta deal with it sleep withthe bed you made.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yeah, you gotta sleep in the bed you made um you uh
so hospitality yeah about.
So I guess I'm curious with uh,you're very good with people,
you're very outgoing and youhave a good vibe now yeah, did
any of that come from that, fromthe hospitality services?

Speaker 2 (47:49):
yeah, it forced me like my first, uh, because maybe
I was working at mcdonald's andfinish line.
And then I started, uh, Iworked at the west end by the
airport.
It was my first hotel job and Iwasn't even supposed to, bro, I
wasn't even supposed to work atthe hotel job.
I went up there there for thevalet because my friend, my, my

(48:12):
step brother's friend, wasworking there, so he was my
recommendation, like my referral, and I went up there, did the
interview.
My license was so shittybecause I had like put it like
this I think you gotta have likeeither 15 or 13 points.
I think I had 12.
You know, I'm saying superspeeders, damn.
So I'm doing valet so I'mthinking like, oh okay, I paid a

(48:33):
ticket, whatever you know but.
I didn't know that I was gonnaplay a factor on my life.
I know that shit.
But he was like you're such alike cool guy or such a great
kid yeah that I want.
I think you should work here.
So then that's when I appliedfor the hotel and I was uh, they
called a pbx operator.
I was the one.
You, when you call the hotel,you pick up the phone.

(48:53):
I was that dude, and I'm.
Every time you call roomservice, I was that dude.
So I'm dealing with fuckingfuck ass room service orders and
people upset blah, blah, blah,or people can't find, uh,
because we're by the airport sowe're super busy.
So the ground transportationthey got shuttles, people
yelling at me because theshuttle ain't there, because
everybody, nobody cares aboutwho's on the other side of the

(49:15):
phone.
You know, I'm saying and I'm inthe back of the hotel, so
you're not gonna see me at thefront there.
So nobody cares, so I learnedhow to deal with all that, yeah,
and but that's how I learnedhow to like, I guess, talk to
people more, because I'm forcedto talk to people on the phone.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
So when?
But I always wanted to be onthe front desk because I like
I'm a people person, don't justput me in a fucking cubicle.
Yeah, you gotta answer people.
But then I worked at the Aloftdowntown and that was like my
first front desk position.
And then that's when I was, youknow, dealing with a lot of

(49:52):
people, met a lot of you knowartists.
I met Lil Pump.
What?
Yeah, I met Lil Pump from thatshit man that's funny.
He fucking um.
They came, stayed at a hotel,they had a show in Atlanta.
I feel that everything had ashow with Yachty in Atlanta.
But I used to be with Yachtyall the time because his I think
they're still cool now though,but at the time his name was

(50:13):
Burberry Perry, and he made OneNight.
He made the beat for One Night,which was Yachty's like big
song.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
So they was always together.
Rob Markman.
Yeah, yeah, rob Markman.
And I was his friend, so I waslike fuck it, come here Rob
Markman.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Okay, okay, Rob Markman.
And so what was I doing withthat?
What was?

Speaker 1 (50:30):
I doing with that, the Fort Yachty concert.
Oh, yeah, lil Pump, yeah, lilPump.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
So, yeah, so, Lil Pump.
He came to the hotel they had ashow in Atlanta and they had,
like some, they booked a roomthrough like Hotwire or some
shit, yeah, and you know the guy, uh, they got that brand awful
lot of cough syrup.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I think his name is likedust, dust or whatever the fuck
his name is.
Yeah, yeah, but um, that dudeyou know he was, he was around a

(50:59):
little pump at that time, likebefore the boom gang and all
that yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
So when he was popping.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Yeah, yeah, so he, um , they was all there and you
know me being the guy I am.
They they was like, well, hehad no rooms and I know who
these niggas are.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
I'm like bro, this is .

Speaker 2 (51:16):
We got to get these guys.
We got to get these guys in theroom.
These fucking celebrities.
There's no way.
We can't.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Yeah.
At the same time, it's like itmakes something happen, why you
didn't have your room Too muchlean.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
So, you know, what I'm saying Like who's handling?
Who's the tour guy?
Who's in charge?

Speaker 1 (51:32):
of the shit.
Yeah, who's in charge of theshit?

Speaker 2 (51:37):
So now tell you what?
We ain't got no rooms ready,but I can put y'all in the
engineering room right now, likea maintenance room type shit,
and y'all can go in there, youcan shower, y'all can change,
but you gotta let me go to theconcert like you gotta let me
film the concert.
Oh, they said, gave me a fuckingwristband.

(51:59):
I followed the.
Uh, the bus behind park went.
I got the whole backstageexperience.
Oh and um, I met my favorite uhvfx editor ever in fucking life
.
His name is uh gibson hazard.
If you don't know who that is,bro, look at his videos.
Bro, I will.
I'd like that super fire and umfilmed the freaking show and had

(52:23):
some friends I called myfriends.
That's like bro, because I was.
I was a photographer dude and Ididn't shoot videos and shit at
this time.
So I was like, man, I'm goingto take your pictures.
My other guy he actually shootsvideos but he don't take
pictures.
And the other white guy, he wasour friend, His name was Brett
and shit, he had to whip.
I mean, he was fucking Brett.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
He was mobbing everybody.
You feel me.
So who was?
Who was the?

Speaker 2 (52:49):
I called them instantly like bro, this is our
opportunity, yeah you know whatI'm saying?

Speaker 1 (52:53):
I never yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
That just goes to show you the type of person I
was.
I'll call my friends up.
It was like, bro, I'm gonnasink y'all in, yeah, because I'm
supposed to be with them, so,hopefully, like just y'all, just
yeah, fuck it yeah, like youknow, let's do it yeah, so um,
filmed that concert and thenthat ended up popping off, you
know, because that's when Irealized Atlanta's like a
cloud-based city and becauseonce they started seeing me do

(53:16):
stuff with a lot of celebrities,that's when they was like oh,
you're actually fired.
I'm like we're fucking with younow.
I've been, you know, kind ofbeen doing shit, I've been that.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Yeah, it does take that right.
Somebody didn't notice you,somebody put you on or something
, something.
Either way, it's self-made,though, right like it's still
self-made, yeah because it'slike you, you, that hotel moment
, like that was you, that was,that was me.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Knowing that moment, I wouldn't even have been there,
bro, like I really I reallywouldn't, I really wouldn't have
been there and I snuck myfriends into.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
I was a real one, bro yeah, it sounds like it was a
real snuck my friends into.
I was a real one bro.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Yeah, it sounds like it.
I snuck you into a backstage ata little pop concert.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
That's the homie.
Come on, bro, I fuck you bro.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
You're a real one.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
That's tight, though that's when shit got popping
right around there.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
That's when I started .
I still got it on my YouTube tothis day too.
That was my first video.
I swapped my lens out.
I ended up getting like a 50millimeter and just to make it
all super clear and cleanbecause you know, kit lens suck,
yeah.
Yeah.
So upgrading my little lens,shit was clean and crispy, it
was fire, but then it was likemy friends started hating and it

(54:27):
was like that's, that's thepart that was asked, because if,
if I'm a we're all up right,kind of thing but, then that's
when I had to learn how to dealwith, like you know, like I was
people just want you to be inthis one little thing.
They don't want you to likebranch out blossom, branch out

(54:48):
they don't.
And it's like I don'tunderstand that because, like I
said, if I'm not worried, if I'meating, we're all eating.
If that's the point, I shouldhave never fucking invited you
to come out.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
You know what I'm saying but you don't know these
things until you get bit.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
So that was one of those life lessons and stuff
like that, but it's, it wasstill been cool, it was lit.
It was still lit because at theend of the day, I still felt
good about like being that bro.
Yeah, you did your part.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
I did my part, bro.
That's yeah, that's for reals,and then my part, but it's also
good that you got.
Whatever happened happened inthe beginning, though.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Because the higher you climb up, the worse those
falls are.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Like I know they see me now.
Yeah, I know they see me now.
One of them was still trying tobe cool, but it was just like
when they got around the otherone, it was like nah, you don't
know me.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
I'm like nigga.
You don't know me.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
You feel me, me.
It's weird.
That's why I'd be like bro.
I just say, I just say tomyself now, man, that's facts,
bro.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Yeah, I, I understand , I feel it, um, but that's that
it's your journey.
Yeah, it's, it's your journey,just like this podcast is my
journey.
So it's important to like facea lot of this, the ups and downs
alone or with your partner, oryou know what I mean are the
ones that are around.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
I was alone bro I was alone, sleeping on the.
Yeah, that time that's.
This is all 1920.
Yeah, so this is all like myfirst daughter's either cooking
in the womb or she's just beingborn, type shit, yeah.
And it was like I have to dosomething, to make something of

(56:41):
myself, I have to buildsomething.
And I didn't have a place.
I was staying with my twofriends.
That's why I called thembecause it was like bro, if
we're supposed to be a group.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
You were there from the beginning.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
I'm going to call y'all.
And then I was staying in hishouse.
I was sleeping literally on thefloor behind his couch, Because
I was like I don't want tosleep on the couch and
everybody's walking in and theyjust see to sleep on the couch.
Then I'm that guy.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
I was like let me get behind the couch.
Then they don't know.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Then, nobody knows, I did that for like a while, bro.
I did that for a while.
I left my dad's because my dadwas like I was rebellious at
that time too.
He just wanted me to clean myroom and I was like dude, fuck
all that, fuck all that.
So I clean my room and I waslike dude, fuck all that, fuck
all that.
Someone clean my room.

(57:31):
How about you clean up yourattitude?
How about?

Speaker 1 (57:33):
you clean up your attitude, dad.
That's fucking funny.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
But I mean like now, me and my dad, we're super cool
now.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
We had that moment where, like, I said whatever I
felt, you know what I'm saying,mm-hmm, I said whatever I felt.
Now I would advise this thoughI advise everybody to speak how
you feel, but don't be surprisedon.
You know how somebody elsetakes it about how you, whatever
you're saying, because, at theend of the day, they ain't got

(58:04):
to hear that shit.
If you don't want to hear thatshit, right?
You know what I'm saying, right?

Speaker 1 (58:10):
And my dad wasn't trying to hear that shit, you
know I'm saying right, and mydad wasn't trying to hear that
shit.
So you know I'm saying, but itwas like you understand that.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Now though, like he, understands where I'm coming
from now and now, as me being afather, I understand how he
would feel.
I couldn't even imagine mylittle girl like, yeah, snap at
that.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
What the fuck you feel me, it'll crush me, bro,
you crazy.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Especially if you really care, and it's like the
whole time you really beentrying to figure out shit on
your own too, like get your ownlife together and stuff.
It's like, bro, that would'vecrushed me too.
So it's like, all right, butnow we're good.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
That's good.
Yeah, we're good.
If it's just cool with thefamily, then it's good, because
you feel like you have likesomething to catch you, like if
you fall, exactly.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Like if stuff ever hit the fan, you know at least
got that auntie or that cousinor somebody.
But I mean, there's some folksand that's what you need to
appreciate to appreciate too,because there's some folks that
don't even have that.
There's some folks that it'slike bro, it's literally just me
out here and I don't havenothing and.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
I'm trying yeah, and you know, you never know what
that person is even goingthrough.
Never know, bro.
So that's why, like I, I keepto myself and I never.
A big part of this podcast, bro, is I try to not teach lessons
but, like my experience, I sharemy experience.
And one thing that I've learnedbeing everywhere and being

(59:39):
around so many differentcultures and being in other
countries is that you can neverjudge a book by its cover.
Never, bro, because, bro, youjust never know.
Even you, bro, yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Like bro.
It's like bro, you pulled up.
You asked one question, bro,and I was like yeah, man, it's
back there.
Man, now we're up here talkingabout spirituality, yes, life
and shit.
Yeah, being in real deep.
That's what shit like.
Yeah, it meant like that, likeit, literally, just like that

(01:00:10):
just like that, bro, and theycan, but that's that's what
people also really need tounderstand too.
It can really be just thatsimple.
Now to granted there's not alot of people like me and you
that just that was on some likeyeah that was on some like one,
something you know what I'msaying yeah, because you meet a
lot of stupid folks before you.
You know what I'm saying, butyou kind of give up hope a
little bit.
Then it's like then it shows upand it's like oh okay, all right

(01:00:33):
, I know I'm not tripping theystill exist, right, they still
exist out here, yeah.
There's still some decentpeople out here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
I feel like a lot of society and social media
combined has kind of like dumbedus down to, not me or you
personally but but as a whole,as a whole, and it's hard to
fight through that and you endup being, uh, a minority in that
sense yeah you know, as am I.
But uh, yeah, I'm glad youbrought up the spirituality,

(01:01:01):
because I think that's wherewe're gonna kind of take it.
Uh, take it there man take itthere, and then I'm gonna finish
with a couple questions, andthen, uh, and then we'll, uh,
we'll call it, and then we'llget to work tomorrow yeah, then
we get to work tomorrow, then wegotta, yeah, we gotta, yeah,
this is this is just thebeginning it's just the
beginning, dog, I'm excited.
Um, so what, uh, what do youthink sent you on your uh

(01:01:24):
spiritual journey?
Or uh, you know what has thatbeen like?
Is it been trying to findyourself, figure out what, what
makes you happy, what your truthis?
Uh, you know things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Yeah, like my, so my other older brother name is
ralph right nice, and he was onthis shit like he.
He's.
Uh, he lived.
He's the one that lived inDenver.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
He lived in Denver and all that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
He was in Denver when they won the Super Bowl, type
shit.
So whatever the fuck that yearwas, but that year, Okay, and he
was on the crystals, the copper, the oil.
The shit that really go withthe chakras and the oil.
Like, you know what I'm saying,they're really the shit.
They're really going with thechakras and shit.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Okay, yeah, oh, he's really tapped in.
Like he's like and that's onething about him.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
If he's on some shit, he's gonna be like, he's gonna
take it like away, you know, andI thought he was fucking insane
, like I was like you have lostyour goddamn mind.
You have officially lost itlike this, is it?
yeah, you have lost it, brotheryeah, you have went on the deep
end and, um, it's been nice,because I was just playing the

(01:02:41):
game like I was playing 10thgrade on pc like you know what
I'm saying I was just trying to,I was trying to code some shit,
I wasn't trying to think aboutfucking your third eye and, god
damn, like really going deep.
So he popped it off and like Iseen him do it and I seen him

(01:03:02):
like, like I literally seen hisskin look like a golden bronze,
like you're like just beinghealthy and being like oh, yeah,
yeah, and especially beingbeing healthy and being like
Especially being out there andhaving the crystals yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
He was really like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Glowing, he was shining, yeah, but, um, my
fiance's dad, well, my fiance'son that, yeah, he's on that,
nice, but her dad is like onthat, not like od like, like od
like with the coppers yeah, yeahbut on some like understanding,

(01:03:38):
he's the one that's gonna giveyou a book.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Yeah and I don't read no fucking books.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
And it was the best shit that he could ever fucking
read.
I love when he gives me booksbecause I learn so much stuff
and now I realize why everybodylikes reading now and it's like
it has the answers, bro.
Yeah, but I was like I ain'tfinna read that shit, I ain't
finna read that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
I ain't finna read.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Nigga I to pay rent Books, Books.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Man, they better send me an automobile.
What the fuck am I going to dowith these books?

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
It was like that, it was like her being on that type
of energy.
Even the simple stuff, likesaying don't say good morning,
say grand rising the power ofthe tongue, the words, the
manifestation shit, thefrequencies.
I was already on to it from mybrother, but she amplified it

(01:04:33):
when we were both connected.
That's when it was like a U2moment, Then that's when it was
like let's really tap into it.
That's why I am the way I am now.
Before I was still cool, but Iwas like I was still outside.
Now I'm more like reserved,smart with my smart, with my

(01:04:55):
decision making.
I really value my time.
I really don't talk to justeverybody.
I talk to everybody, but Idon't let.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
I don't like to let too much out.
I don't let too much out toeverybody.
I don't let too much out toeverybody.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
You can know just enough, just by off the
conversation, I know how to dealwith you.
But for the people who really,really, really know, you'll know
, kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
That's facts.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
But she really put me on.
She solidified it.
Ralph put me on, but shesolidified it.
Her dad was like that's my popsman.
Yeah, I love that, bro.
I love that he's not old either.
Nick's like 46.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Really Well, like you said, with the skin being all
clear and glowing and everything.
I personally I do like a waterfast two, three times a year.
The last one I did was seven oreight days, but that's how I
feel when I'm towards the end ofthat.

(01:05:54):
Or even once you get past thefirst three days.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Yeah, that's what they said.
It's kind of smooth after that,but that first three days is
brutal.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
They can be.
It is brutal because we'veliterally been putting the same
shit in our bodies our entirelives and then you go cold, cut
it off, like your body goes intoshock for like a little minute.
But that's the good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
It's the good thing because it goes in shock and it
literally gets rid of all ofthis, everything out, let's see,
they don't know about that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
They don't know about that, nobody.
But that's why I'm trying toput people on game with this.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Yes, bro, yeah I'll be really listening to uh, um,
uh, yaki, yeah, and because youknow he'd be talking about like
uh, like you eat with the sun,like you, um, and then like you
eat early, and then I think likenothing after like four, yeah,
and then your body, like after awhile, it start goes into it,

(01:06:44):
goes into the state, yeah,fasting.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
So I'll be trying to get on that.
That's a real thing, thoughit's just something about that
honey hot lemon type of chicken,oh man.
I know it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
My thing is like I stopped drinking a couple years
ago, so it's almost like Ireplaced it with sugar, which is
bad, because it's super bad foryou Right right, sugar is
horrible, like, I replaced itwith sugar, yeah, which is bad
because it's super bad for you,right, right, sugar, it's
horrible, it's horrible and uh,but the fasting that's like.
Like that's just where I messedup, because it's like a vice man
.
It's like when I used to wantto deal with shit, I used to
drink to deal with shit, and nowI don't have that option.

(01:07:18):
So like I was like, ah, yeah,so candy or whatever ice cream,
something quick, something uh,and like my skin, like I'm like
breaking out of my skin.
This is from eating sugar, likeif I detox my body out, just
like straight up, and I just eatmeat, vegetables, fruits that's
it like on the lines man prettymuch.
Yeah, wait, wait lines man youtalking about the mushroom?

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, that's the way I'm
trying to.
We're trying to go, we'retrying to go like that way
that's really good stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
I take the tinctures.
They're like drops.
They're better than the pills,so get that after you take it.
The tinctures, yeah.
So I'm on that.
Turkey tail mushrooms,cordyceps mushrooms are for your
lungs, yeah, and then one forblood flow.
I can't remember, but I usuallytake that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
That's Ashwagandha right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, um, but
yeah, I take that's mostly like, what I take is like mushroom,
like natural.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Yeah, I don't take a lot of supplements?
Uh, no, because?
Because supplementation isn'tthe same as yes, it's not, it
ain't it?

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
but it's, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
But what I eat is important, so like I cook at
home, right, but if you do that,to eat your fruits, like you're
getting your hydration from thefruit.
And then that's when I wasreally like getting into it
because, uh, I was also uh sothis is completely side quest,
but it goes into what we'resaying.
That because, um, I was workingwith a company named b connors
right, I was doing their videocontent and, like they you know

(01:08:42):
it was a black owned connorcompany but we was doing doing
like a HIV kind of thing at EastWest Connector at the Walmart
up there, and so they wasdrawing blood and stuff like
that.
So my brother's, like the onethat's closer to my age, he was
like oh yeah, I know I'm goingto be good.
I drink water all the time Iwork out Woo woo.

(01:09:02):
Yeah, this nigga blood was sothick that it was like she's
like I can tell you're notdrinking water, yeah, which
means that like you're nothydrated, yeah, like you're not
hydrated at all, yeah, and.
But he was like I'm drinkingwater, but it's like you know,
they tell you so that water withthe Celtic salt, so it can
really get into your um yourbloodstream yeah, yeah yeah, and

(01:09:25):
uh, yeah, his his shit was likeno electrolytes yeah, nothing
but um, what's up for this eight?
oh, but the fruits we ate, weate like fruits really, the
fruits and his, his, he actuallygot hydrated.
Yeah, I guess when he, you knowthe water that's in the fruit

(01:09:49):
really goes and it really isbetter than you just drinking
water.
Yeah, yeah, when you actuallyeat the fruits.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Yeah, I can see that um, so, yeah, like nutrition is
super important.
Um, I feel like mind, body andsoul, if you take care of all
three of those things, yeah,you're gonna live the life that
you're supposed to live, or oryour path will be much clearer,
or something, and and you'll getto those checkpoints faster and

(01:10:16):
you'll see things through amore clearer lens.
Yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
It does get wicked, it gets very wicked, but I feel
like that's like that's the gamethey want you to play, though,
mm-hmm, because mind, body, soul, like, yes, that is what you,
when it really boils down to it,that's what it is, that's what
it is.
But distractions, dopamine,like constantly all the time, to

(01:10:44):
constantly take your mind offof that.
Yeah, if I can get your mindoff of that, yeah, if I can get
your mind off of that, then Ican control you.
But once you really startfocusing on that and you like
you can't mess with nobody who'sreally at peace, bro, like it's
not gonna work it's just gonnabe like all right, that's what
it is it is what it is.
I guess that's how.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
I guess that's how it's going that's just how it's
gonna go I want to go to theafterlife.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Anyway, you know what I'm saying, you know what.
I'm saying who doesn't want togo to the spirit world?
Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
But it is what it is, bro, damn.
Well, I think I'm going tothrow out just a couple random
questions and then we'll do someshout-outs, and then we'll do,
like, some shout outs and thenwe'll call it Um, what is uh,

(01:11:36):
what is your?
Have you set a goal foryourself for this year, it being
2025,?
Uh, when it comes to either thevideography or the grills or
just self-personal development,do you have any goals set up for
this year?

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
hell.
Yeah, I can't, really, I can'tdisclose it.
Yeah, because I feel like onceI say it, it's gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
I'll tell y'all camera though.
Okay, I got some shit.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Okay, good, I got some shit, like some shit that
is like, oh you know, yeah,because they're not doing it in
atlanta.
They're doing it like in newyork and like other places, but
they're not doing it in atlanta.
They're doing it like in newyork in like other places, but
they're not doing it down here.
So I want to be like the guythat's doing it down here and I
also see, like the festivals.
I can see me being at thefestivals and stuff this year

(01:12:18):
every time and just getting morelike brand awareness and stuff
like that.
Um, but just on a minor scale,like gotta do the vision board.
That's a must.
I keep hearing about this shit.
I might as well just try itlike you're already in the mix.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
You know I'm already in me.
It's like come on, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Like you're already there, I literally just need to
see the.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
I have to see it like how you said speak it out into
existence.
The same thing.
Yeah, board like vision.
Writing it out like that um no,I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
The vision vision board, 100 for sure so vision
board festivals, um, as far asthe videography stuff, I'm also
gonna do like I'm gonna takethat shit back because I lost my
passion for it.
Yeah, and um, because, becausedealing with other people, man,
it burnt me out.
Yeah, like it really burnt meout, because, remember, I told

(01:13:13):
you like I was being the rightperson for the wrong people.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
And it would just like it sucked the fun that I
used to have for video.
Like I still love creating shit.
Like I love a good fucking vlog.
Yeah, but people are so fuckingstupid and they're just like.
I don't even want to deal withthat.
It's not fun, no more.
It's not fun, no more.
But I'm finna make it fuckingfun.

(01:13:41):
But instead of it making it fun, I was always looking for a
muse to let me just shoot theircontent and make them look cool,
because this shit's look fun,because I like seeing people up,
yeah.
But now I'm like I'm going tojust put that energy into me
instead of me putting thatenergy into myself.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
Yeah, that's the recipe.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
And then now we'll see, we'll see how that shit
turns out, you'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
I mean, how that shit turns out, you'll see.
I mean, you've already bet onyourself to this point, like now
, just take that and, like yousaid, put that energy into into
you and your business.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
That's that's what I feel like, because I feel like I
can just take it there, becauseI have the vision to do it, and
I'm the one who bring otherpeople's visions to life on
camera.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
You're going to figure it out.
I'm going to figure it the fuckout, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
I'm going to take the risk.
There's going to be bumps andstuff.
There's going to be hard times,but that's just what comes with
the game, bro, or elseeverybody else would be on.
That's literally what everybodysays.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Exactly.
If it was easy, everybody woulddo it, if it was easy,
everybody would do it.
A hundred percent.
You know what I'm saying andI've never been a hater, you've
never been a hater, you told me.
I know it, I feel it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Yeah, but they exist and they're out there and I'm
gonna show you when we get, okay, but the people that's in New
York, that's doing what they'redoing.
Bro, I can do the same shit,like you know what I'm saying I

(01:15:13):
can literally I I'm asking himquestions and he's literally
telling me the shit that Ialready know.
Yeah, and it's like why am Idoing it if he's doing it and
he's charging a premium and Iknow exactly what he's doing?

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
You got to be the first to it.
That's like a thing with ideas,and it could be the same idea
in a different place.
But if you're the first to itand you put your creative you
know sprinkle on it, then you'llbe lit in that too.
You'll be in that just doingthat, hell yeah that's awesome
man, you got some big goalscoming up um yeah, uh, let's, uh

(01:15:53):
, let's go ahead and we'llfinish it out.
Um, do you want to?

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
well, first I want to say thank you for taking the
time for doing this, even thoughyou know we just met like that
right, just met like that well,yesterday, just yesterday, yeah,
yesterday, we was like fuck,it's literally two in the
morning.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
Right now we're like talking, I wouldn't have it any
other way, wouldn't have anyother way, bro.
Um yeah, so you know, I I've, Itold you that this shout out to
you, man, shout out to you withthe pocket, my phone cutting
you off, but shout out to you,bro, because it Shout out to you
with the pocket my phone, cutin your offer, shout out to you,
bro, because it's like,literally after this, I'm like,

(01:16:32):
yeah, I'm about to do this shit,yeah.
Bro.
I mean, I think a big part oflife is who you have around you
in your circle.
Yeah, keeping it small, keepingit tight, you know loyalties
are like a big thing you know,for me.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Super?
Yeah, definitely for me.
That's why I'd be like, when itbe like when disloyal shit
happen, it'd be like we're tooreal to not.
I feel like I'm too real of aperson to have some disloyal,
fuck shit happen to me.
But I guess that's what happensto real people, because there's
a lot of people who like that.
Yeah, but I didn't like how Ikept experiencing it.

(01:17:10):
So it made me feel like it'ssomething with me and why do I
keep attracting this type ofpeople?
But then it was like I need toswitch the type of attraction I
have with people.
Yeah, like I have to switch upsomething.
Because why what?
I'm saying, yeah, like I haveto.
I have to switch up something,because why do I keep being in
these same situations, whichmeans I'm doing it.

(01:17:32):
So now it's up.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
You can always look back at yourself, even if you're
not even the problem or youcould be, like there's always
something you can fix or dobetter, no matter what, and like
to take out of those situations.
So that's growth to the fullestand you're just growing up the
way you should be Hell yeah bro,that's awesome bro.
But yeah, so the basis of thisthing is kind of around mental

(01:18:00):
health and I feel like thecountry is like in a very crazy
place now Very frantic.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Yeah, everybody's, everybody's, everybody's scared
bro, but that's what they.
It's like.
It's like when you really godeep, man, and you really
realize, like like it's justsome puppets bro.
It's really it's the puppetmaster behind the strings bro.
It's just some puppets bro.
It's really.
It's the puppet master behindthe strings, bro.
If you let it, if you letyourself get caught up in

(01:18:31):
worldly things, you won't escapethe Matrix and I'ma just, i'ma
just leave it like that.
Damn.
That's facts bro.
It's facts, bro, if you getcaught up in the worldly shit
because, at the end of the day,like you know, like you done
traveled, you done did this shit, you done seen stuff, been

(01:18:51):
around things, and you be likenone of that shit fucking
matters bro.
Like literally all the stuffthat we thought that mattered
don't.
And the stuff that really doesmatter is your mind, body and
spirit exactly um damn that'sright on head.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
You're very wise, my friend, uh before, before I let
you go uh, here's your chance toto shout out uh, anybody, uh
that you think, uh just justanything, man, your family, your
friends, uh, your, uh what youbelieve in your ideas.
Shit, you stand on.

(01:19:35):
Shit.
You believe in things out inthe world.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
You see that you think shout out to hanging with
humans, because right now we'reliterally hanging with humans.
That's what we're doing.
Um, I would also say like, noton some like sarcastic stuff.
I want to shout out toeverybody who really did me
wrong, because that shit broughta beast in me and really

(01:19:59):
changed the course of my life insuch a positive direction and
really changed the course of mylife in such a positive
direction that probably if Ikept fucking around with those
fake ass people, I wouldn't evenbe who I was today.
So like I probably wouldn'teven be doing this shit, I would

(01:20:23):
probably be like I don't know,fucking supporting their own
ideas and their dreams insteadof doing my own shit.
And then, by the time I get towhere I'm at now, it's like damn
, now let me start thinkingabout myself.
So you're 45.
It's still not late, but it'slike damn, let's get this shit
in early, bro.
Let's get our credit shit rightnow.
Let's get our funding.
Let's get our do this shit easy.
Do this shit now and by thetime we do hit like it's gonna

(01:20:49):
be 45 or some shit.
We're on a fucking lake, we'rechilling and shit.
Yep, you know what I'm sayinggoing fishing and shit, fishing
and shit.
That's what really matters, brothe peace, that the, the
freedom, the freedom to dowhatever you want, bro that's
what it comes down to, becauseyou're still gonna have to work.
Yeah, so, and even I used tochase.
I used to be like about themoney all the time, but now it's
like it's really just aconnection and networking now to

(01:21:10):
me, yeah I don't care about themoney, because I'm gonna make
it.
It's gonna come.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
It might be tough, it might be slim, it might be
tight, but it's gonna comeyou're doing something that
doesn't feel like work a lot ofthe time, and that's a huge part
of just everything.
Hell yeah, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
That's why I honestly love working at a shop.
From being there, I didn't evenrealize until I said it, but I
was like damn, it's only been afucking month.
It's been a month but youconnected and I feel like I'm
connected and learned.
It's what I really love doing,so it's like I'm blessed to do

(01:21:49):
something that I really have apassion for doing.
it's like it's like videographyall over again, but like
hands-on and now my other stuffis still contributing to this
business, contributing to, likeyou know what I'm saying because
it just gets even better.
It just gets easier, like tothe point that I'm gonna be able
to like, just print printgrills and shit.
I don't even have to do all theextra shit.
It's even better, it just getseasier, like to the point that
I'm gonna be able to like, justprint print grills and shit.

(01:22:09):
I don't even have to do all theextra shit.
You know I'm saying it's goingthere.
Huh, it's going there.
Yeah, it's going there.
Like, don't worry about it, bro, I already got your fucking
scan got my impressions.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
Yeah, I got you.
I don't, even I don't even mixup, no more.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
I just I scan your mouth.
That's crazy, it's be perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
Yeah, bro, anybody you want to shout out or
anything, go ahead, now's yourchance, and then I'm going to
dap you up and we'll say peaceout, let's see Before that
handles like for InstagramYouTube.
Where do people?

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
go to find you.
Instagram Personal Instagram isYoung Lottie.
You're going to seeY-U-N-G-L-O-D-D-I-E Business
Instagram is Oro Divino andCompany.
So it's O-R-O-D-I-V-I-N-I-O no,take that I out,

(01:23:07):
o-r-o-d-i-v-i-n-o and co.
That's what it is.
And then YouTube.
Youtube is just Young Lottie.
Or if you just type in YoungLottie, you're going to see like
, because the celebritiesthey'll be like, they'll tag and
post it on their channel andshit.
So I and posting on theirchannel and shit.
I'd be like fuck it, Justfucking tag me.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
Tag me, but you're out there, let people know
You're out there on YouTube andeverything.
Yeah, I'm on YouTube, I'm on.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
YouTube.
I'm probably going to start.
I don't know, man, I don't knowif I'm going to be like a
YouTuber, though, but that'swhat.
Ever since I started posting mycontent on my Instagram stories
stories like people want to, Iguess, see the lifestyle of it
and I was like, fuck man, I kindof just I'd be chilling bro,
but I technically do a lot ofshit, like we technically having

(01:23:55):
a fucking podcast meeting.
I got there, yeah, two in themorning.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Yeah, we got there on tuesday.
It's true, it all ties in, youknow I'm saying it all ties in,
bro.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
It's like, at the end of the day, bro, that's, that's
still content, that's stilllike you're working.
I see you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
And people want to see that.
So it's like fuck it, man, I'mgoing to give them something to
see, exactly, if you ever followme on my shit, I show I'm up at
4 am.
I'm at the gym.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
I get off podcast and then I'm taking care of my kids
and then I'm just findingguests.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
I'm just out here just like doing what I'm doing,
meeting people and trying to putthe ranch together.
That takes up 100 of my timeand it's all out there, but
people fuck with it, because whowants to wake up at 4 am?

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
who the fuck wants to wake up before nobody does?
No, but the fucking.
That's what you gotta do.
You gotta that's what you gottado, bro.
That's what that disciplinecomes in, bro, because you wake
up at 4 am, bro, you knockingout all kinds of shit, so much
shit like so much and that'swhat I realize now, because at
first I'd be like man I used to,you know, wake up at like 10,

(01:25:01):
10, 30, 11 30 sometimes like 130 and be cool, like just start
the day or whatever yeah butit's like, bro, I want some.
I woke up at five because I hadsome shit to do.
That day was so fucking longand I had so much shit to do and
I got it all done, but theywere just like damn.
If I did every day like this,imagine how much shit I would do

(01:25:23):
.
Yeah, imagine how much work,your energy, I would put in,
even if it was like I read Iread the book that my fiancee
dad gave me.
That shit, I'll be home, bro,like that's.
That's where the disciplinecomes in.
So I'm like that's how I'mgonna do it, bro, like I'm gonna
gotta be disciplined.
Yeah, lock, you gotta be, gottabe disciplined, and apparently
you gotta stay consistent,because that's what I'll do too.

(01:25:45):
I'll be like doing it for alittle bit, and I'll be like
fucking doing for a little bit.
All right, fuck it.
Because it's like I'm not finna.
I can't keep doing this shitfor free, right?
Somebody got to pay somethingand I'm out here shooting videos
these motherfuckers gettinghand in hand flashing $2,500,
but don't want to pay for avideo though.

(01:26:06):

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
They always say in the beginning oh, it's the come
up, you got to earn your stripes, you got to take these L's.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
I put a lot of fucking stripes in.
I earned my goddamn stripes.
Now I'm at the point whereenough is enough.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
At that point, that's just a finesse.
Because you do have to put yourwork in I did do a lot, and
you've done that already.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
Yeah, I did that shit or way earlier yeah, you know
what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
yeah, but you ain't getting finessed, no more like
now.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
Now it's more so like let's, let's do the business
side right.
Let's get the business right,give me the press passes for the
festival so I can have my mediapass.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
There you go, you know.
You know how to do it right,though.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Now I do it right now .
Yeah Well, I appreciate you,brother.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
Yeah, bro, hey, thank you so much for coming out here
and doing this, and we homiesnow Of course man, Maybe we
could do LA.
Maybe we could do LA togetheror something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
No, bro, you thought.
I was playing Like I'm not.
I really wanted her to go tothe concert down here, yeah, but
we're going to like.
It was like, obviously fuckthat, but when I saw that it was
having the LA show, bro, thatshit's probably going to be deep
as fuck, like it's probablygoing to be insane.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
They did three shows in a row.
I think for that, yeah, becauseit's that fucking insane,
because that's tired, I'm tryingto catch like the first day.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
I'm trying to catch like the day one, but yeah, bro,
um yeah I appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
Yeah, I'm gonna take this paper though.
Yeah, absolutely, and thank youto everybody for watching.
I'm excited about this episode.
I'm gonna get it out to you assoon as I can and uh, yeah,
thank you and bye, peace out.

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