September 24, 2025 • 53 mins
Episode 26: “Modern Day Robin Hood”
Jason Wheeler, 47
San Bernardino, CA • Green River, UT • Denver, CO • Pikes Peak, CO
What started as casual conversation on a cross-country trip quickly revealed something bigger: two strangers headed to Los Angeles to visit their sisters and see Kendrick Lamar & SZA. That chance meeting turned into an unlikely friendship—and a story worth telling.
Jason’s early life began in Indianapolis’ Hallville neighborhood, shadowed by family tragedy before he was even born. Despite earning multiple basketball scholarships, his energy gravitated toward hustling more than academics. After a run as a successful mortgage broker, he plunged into the “scam game”—a decision that would catch up with him later.
At 40, Jason faced his first prison sentence. Six months in solitary confinement during COVID forced him into a brutal kind of introspection. As he puts it: “Prison is a young man’s sport.” That wake-up call shifted his focus to building something real.
Today, Jason manages 42 Airbnb properties nationwide, with a goal of 100 by 2026. His philosophy—everything happens for a reason—drives both his business and his outlook on life.
Part three of our conversation unfolded at 6am in Colorado, recording while searching for a runaway horse named Conway (after Conway the Machine).
From the streets of Cali to the quiet of Colorado, Jason’s journey is a testament to transformation, resilience, and the strange ways paths cross when you stay open.
Thank you Jason, for sparing time from your extremely busy life, to come slow down for a bit. & making the first flight out to my new spot. Thus becoming the first recurring guest on the podcast. Part 4/5 are still ahead.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, welcome to the Hanging with Humans podcast.
This is your host, RJ, andtoday I have a very special
guest.
Today I am with my new homie,Jason Wheeler.
Jason, how you doing dog, howyou doing, how you doing RJizzle
it's good, it's good, bro.
(00:21):
So, man, I wrote some thingsdown because I feel like
everything happens for a reason.
Absolutely it's kind of one ofthem situations that's going on
right now, you know.
No doubt, and so, with thatbeing said, I'm going to
introduce the situation whereJason became a homie overnight,
(00:45):
it seems.
We jump on a bus together andnow we're riding together.
So we're over here in Utah,we're over here just posted up
in Utah.
And when I got on the bus thismorning and I got on this bus
because I missed my flight, Imissed my flight because I lost
my wallet.
But to bring everything fullcircle circle, everything
(01:06):
happens for a reason.
So I struggled and I made itthrough and I got on that bus
and the first person I meet onthe bus, jason Jason Wheeler
right, yes, sir.
And uh.
We started talking and uh abouthow you know why we're in LA,
what's going on, and I was like,yeah, man, I came down here to
visit my sister.
It's a tradition that we go seeKendrick Lamar together.
(01:26):
And he was like, stop playing,I'm here visiting my sister.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Just like that.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Just like that and it was crazy, like that was the
first little introduction to thewhole thing and I was like you
know cool people.
So we start talking aboutbusiness and entrepreneurship
and a little bit about, uh, theonline world and how you can
make money doing that.
And uh, jason, he's got alittle bit of a following on
(01:53):
your bit, pretty big on Facebook, right, right Right.
So he's doing this thing onFacebook monetize.
Uh, if you want to go check outsome type of things, what type
of videos you'd be making onthere, jason?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
out some type of things?
What type of videos you bemaking on there?
Jason, you know I travel acrossthe country so I got all kind
of shit going on, all kind ofshit, primarily just my daily
life, yeah, journeys and shitlike that.
You know people tend togravitate towards the shit that
I put on Facebook.
Nice, I think I got like 26,000followers or some shit like
(02:25):
that posted a video did 28million views about a couple
weeks ago, damn of uh, my, mybest friend's grandfather in the
hospital getting a lap dance inhis uh, in his bed, uh, while
uh getting treatment.
Treatment and kind of took offlike wildfire, I think it did
(02:48):
like fucking a million views inlike four hours and then just
went crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
You set that up.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was the one recording.
You know what you're doing.
His grandfather was like man,we need some hoes in here, man.
He's like man, we need somehoes in here, man.
He's like all right, say less.
My dude's grandfather is well.
His father is a big name.
Qc, quality Control Music,shout out to.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
QC.
Oh, that's who that was for.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, that was, that was.
It was the president of thecompany's grandfather.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Oh, ok.
Well, that was a nice thing foryou to put together.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, jason, it's really glad Igot to meet you.
We still got some.
We still got some mobbing to do.
Absolutely, we got to get downto Denver, I got to get down to
Colorado Springs springs.
But I'm going, I'm heading toindy yeah, indy, that's where
you're heading.
Yeah, yeah, all right.
Well, we're gonna try to makethis work on our trip, where we
(03:53):
can finish a whole podcast rightbut it's gonna be cool because
we're doing it in utah and thenwe're gonna be doing in colorado
you know so um, I'm gonna, I'mgonna ask you a couple questions
.
We'll kind of go and then we'llstop when we gotta jump back on
the bus and we'll just pick up.
Cool, cool, cool, jason wheeler.
You're 49 bro, 47, 47, my bad,47, 47 and, uh, you were down
(04:18):
visiting your older sister myyounger sister.
Younger sister two yearsyounger yeah and um you, you
guys kind of shared a loss hererecently, right yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
My mom passed away February 11th, so it's kind of
brought us a little closer.
You know I tend to probably seeher once a year.
Now I've seen her like fivetimes since.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
February yeah Dang, that's cool bro.
You got to keep that moving.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah, absolutely no doubt.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah.
So a couple of things I wrotedown off top are everything
happens for a reason my missedflight, la, las Vegas, denver,
colorado, kendrick and sister.
And you're the modern day,robin Hood.
Modern day, robin Hood.
(05:05):
We'll get into that and howthat came to be, but we're going
to start with the early years.
You were born and raised where.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
In Indianapolis In.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Indianapolis.
Paint me a picture of what itlooks like growing up in
Indianapolis for you.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I mean you know Indianapolis.
I grew up in one of the tougherneighborhoods called Hallville
Hallville in the house Shout out.
So you know Indianapolis is adangerous place.
I mean it's unfortunate to saythat, but you know you have to
be very cognizant of yoursurroundings and making sure
you're hanging with the rightpeople, because you know people
(05:38):
don't really understand that Onebad decision from hanging with
the wrong crowd can put you inthe predicament that you don't
want to be in.
So I like to pride myself inhaving a good judge of character
, just like how I got a goodjudge of character with you.
How we met.
(05:59):
I was just oh, this is a coolmotherfucker.
You know what I'm saying Forreal.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, we got a thumbnail that's gonna be so lit
in san bernardino.
You know, baby, it's clean, um.
So yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
You grew up in, uh, you know, in a tough
neighborhood, in a toughneighborhood, but, uh, my mother
was able to provide you know,uh, it wasn't like, uh, I had
like a real struggle, yeah, butI didn't live in the best
neighborhood but I always hadlike the best shit yeah, that's
clothes and all the moms keepingfire.
(06:33):
Moms kept, kept me and mysister fly.
So I had three brothers andsisters that passed away prior
to me being born.
Really, yeah, they passed awayin a house fire.
Oh man, three days beforeChristmas, wow, the guy that was
babysitting the kids went tosleep with a cigarette in his
(06:55):
mouth and somehow he makes itout.
Kids don't.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Whoa, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's crazy, you know thingshappen for a reason right.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
There could be a possibility I wouldn't be here
if that didn't take place.
I mean, who knows?
That's really true, though Verywell could have been the case.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Like.
That's why I take everysituation that I'm in like
serious now, absolutely.
And I really look at likethere's going to be like at
least two different ways to lookat it, you know.
No doubt different ways to lookat it.
You know I'll doubt about that.
(07:31):
To make the right, decisionbecause, like you, said it's the
wrong people, yeah, the wrongdecision could cost you your
life.
Yeah, cost you more than that,absolutely others lives.
You hurt others aroundabsolutely 100.
So I'm glad you said said that,bro.
Um, so you're a natural bornhustler, aren't you natural born
hustler?
It's in his blood.
Uh, fourth grade bubble gum,three hundred dollar moment, get
into that.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
This is the start of the hustle so, uh, I'm in the
fourth grade and I walk toschool every day.
So, uh, I walk past theKroger's to get to school every
day.
So every day I would go inKroger's and steal packs of
bubble gum.
So you know, I was the candyman.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
The candy man Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
And I'm making 30, 40 bucks a day, but I'm spending
all my money on basketball cardsand baseball cards.
So one day I guess I was beinga little messy with it I had
like $300 in my room.
My mother was in my roommackling around and what have
you?
She discovered the $300 and shewas like what the hell are you
(08:33):
doing?
How do you got this money?
So you know, I ended up kind ofgiving her the story behind it.
There you have it.
I fell in love withentrepreneurship, with
entrepreneurship at a young age.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, you listened on the bus to my podcast with my
boy Marco, right, yeah, that wasa dope one.
Could you get some of thesimilarities, though?
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Absolutely.
That's why I can relate verymuch Um seventh grade, Um what
happened in seventh grade.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
So seventh grade is when I got caught up in the
locker.
Yeah, yeah so seventh grade iswhen, uh, I stepped it up and
said you know what?
Uh, you know I'm going to startselling marijuana.
So what I would do was I boughtmy first little ounce of
marijuana and I rolled them allup in joints.
So I'm going to school everyday and I'm selling joints in a
(09:34):
Catholic school.
So, you know, it kind of tookoff word of mouth Jason has all
the fucking weed.
So one day I go to school and,uh, it's like five police
officers at my locker and I'mlike what?
the hell is this all about?
(09:55):
So, needless to say, I wasarrested in the seventh grade,
kicked out of school.
Uh, because I had a bunch ofjoints in my lock.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Damn Got busted, so they kicked you out.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, I got kicked out of that school.
I had to go to another school.
It was just a private school.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah yeah.
My mother was actually payingfor me to go to school in
seventh grade.
So fast forward.
You go, start playing, you geta scholarship to basketball.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
When did you?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
start hooping, and what did that look like?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I started hooping when I was six years old.
I was always pretty good.
Everybody liked the way Ihandled the ball, kind of like
some Kyrie type shit.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
I got the handle.
It was like the Kyrie beforeKyrie Nice.
So I got a scholarship to playout in Texas, but unfortunately
I'm going to school for all thewrong reasons.
At this point I'm more aboutthe hustle as opposed to school.
I think I was just going toschool to satisfy, to appease
other people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, not formyself.
(10:56):
I'll end up going to fourdifferent colleges and flunked
out of every one of them becauseat this point, like I said, I'm
selling big weed.
Now, yeah, yeah, kind ofgraduated from the one ounce of
joints to, you know, pounds andpounds and pounds and shit you
even had, like the teacherstrying to help you in school.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, they were giving me grades classes that I
didn't even take, just so Icould remain on the team.
Yeah, after the next semester,same thing.
And then it's like, hey, jason,we can't have you back, I can't
keep putting my job on the linebecause you don't want to do
the right things in school.
So I was in Grayson CountyCollege that's in Denison
(11:41):
Sherman, texas.
That's in Denison Sherman,texas.
Then I transferred to VincennesUniversity where I played, and
I had a guy you guys might befamiliar with, his name's Sean
Marion.
Oh, yeah, the Matrix.
Yeah, he was on the team withme, yep.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
That's what's up, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Then, after that, I transferred to McNeese State
University, which is in LakeCharles Louisiana, Ended up
playing with a gentleman by thename of TR Brown.
He ended up starting backcourtwith Kobe Bryant.
He was the D-League MVP.
Nice Flunked out of there, wentto Clark Atlanta University in
Atlanta and I think when I wentto Clark Atlanta I went to
(12:28):
school.
I went to class the first day.
The next two years that I wasthere, I was going to school
with weed in my book bag asopposed to books.
Yeah, swap those out.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I got a question, so you go uh, indiana, louisiana,
texas, or so so.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
So it was um texas, from texas back to indiana, from
indiana to louisiana, then fromlouisiana to atlanta okay, so's
, I was just trying to see howyou got to ATL.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
So it was school.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, school, right School.
So how much different is it?
Was that your first time inAtlanta?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yes, it was yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
So it had just recently been my first.
I've been to Atlanta a coupletimes now to see my partners I
was telling you about.
Right yeah, that was my firsttime because you hear it's like
black Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Right, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
But I ain't never been there.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
And I went and I was like OK, yeah pretty much, you
know so what I'm saying is sinceit's mostly black in Atlanta,
was that like a different shiftfor you because of that?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, I mean yeah and in some ways, but the
neighborhoods that I hung out inin Indianapolis were all black,
so it wasn't, wasn't as big ofa culture.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Well, like, did you feel more at home?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Oh, absolutely no doubt, as opposed to being in
like Texas, yeah yeah, yeah,yeah yeah no doubt.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Okay, yeah, that's what I was trying to get at.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah,absolutely For sure.
So now we're in ATL.
You're done hooping.
You're done with school.
Yeah, I'm done with school.
And when do you end up doingmortgage brokers?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
After I left Atlanta I became a mortgage broker for a
company called Royal UnitedMortgage and Chase Bank and you
know I was kind of like the kingof that shit.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
You had some haters, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They hated the fact that youknow, know, I was doing my thing
with it and I'm talking like uh, a white guy on the phone and
people are like what the hell isgoing on with this dude?
I'll be on the phone like hey,bob, how are you?
This is uh jason with chasebank.
Uh, motherfuckers are like thismotherfucker is wild to the
(14:48):
point where you know uh, ownersof the company.
They were like everyone has towear a suit to work, but wheeler
can wear whatever the fuck hewants to wear yeah, since you
were just the, because you werehim yeah, yeah so the special
treatment came, and then theystart hating yeah, yeah, yeah
absolutely it'd be like that.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Uh, is there anything crucial in the atlanta years
that you can think of, because Iknow where to go after a
mortgage?
But I mean atlanta, atlanta.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
The atlanta years was like when I really like took
off with like the marijuana.
Like I told you, I never wantedto uh sell like hardcore drugs
that harm people, yep, yep.
You know, I sold a lot ofcocaine, a lot of marijuana,
never anything like heroin ormeth or because I always wanted
to, you know, make people happy.
I sold shit that made peopleparty.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I didn't want that on my conscience.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, good on you.
That's what I said.
You're like the Robin Hood,you'll find out.
He's the modern, absolutely.
In a lot of different ways.
So your 20s were like they werelit and, like you said, you got
arrested 70 times.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, I've been arrested probably 70 times.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Does that start?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
in your 20s.
It starts in 7th grade.
Dang, so a little bit of in andout, whatever yeah but most of
the things I was getting lockedup consistently for driving on
suspended yeah, driving onsuspended, driving on suspended,
driving on suspended, whicheventually, uh, they deemed me
what they call a habitualtraffic offender, uh, which is a
(16:19):
big deal in indiana.
So you know, if you get to that, I guess to that level, uh, I
ran out of tickets.
No more tickets.
Anytime I get arrested, it'sprison time.
Now, to this day, if I ever getstopped or pulled over for
driving in Indiana, it's anautomatic six years in prison.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
How often do you go to Indiana?
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I probably make it there once every two months or
so, my kids still live there.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
They just moved back there.
That's where they're at.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Okay, yeah, yeah yeah , that's what's up, you got twin
daughters.
Twin daughters and a son that's27.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Older son.
He was in LA, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
He was living in LA with my sister for like five
years.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Nice yeah yeah, you become the most ball and
mortgage broker, then they starthating.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
How does that end and where do you go from?
How did you get in a scam game?
All right, scam game heavy, souh, so, um, when I was uh doing
my thing with the mortgages,obama got an office and he
implemented all this new shit.
Uh, they kind of weeded out alot of good loan officers like
myself, like things, as, uh, youhave to have uh, uh like a six
(17:34):
50 credit score to be a broker,which I don't think at that time
, I was nowhere near six 50credit score or after Obama came
.
this is when Obama came in, heimplemented, uh like I think it
was something like the care actor something something.
So any score, you can do it.
Well, you couldn't be a lawyer.
Their thought process on thiswas how can you help somebody
(17:55):
with their credit and you don'teven have good credit?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, I guess yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
I mean, I guess that was their thought process.
And then they also implementeda bunch of testing that, prior
to Obama coming in, make you cantake one uniform test, yeah, to
do mortgages in all 50 states.
But then when he came in heimplemented you have to be
licensed in every state, youhave to take a test in every
state yeah, state individual.
That's a pain kind of weeded meout because I was never like uh
(18:25):
good with books, but I was goodwith talking to people.
Yeah, I can ad-lib, but when itcame to like studying and shit,
that was just never my thing.
Obviously.
See, I flunked out everycollege.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, I see that uh, I feel like just everybody is
better in one lane than others,absolutely mostly you know like
once you learn your learningstyle right you know, I had to
realize like because I didn'thave the good, really great,
grades in high school right, butmy teachers thought I was smart
right, but I could not payattention.
(18:56):
I have bad adhd.
That was a part of it, but it'slike I feel like my creative
side of my brain wasn't gettinganything at all right so it like
it's like kind of like fuckthis shit why are you doing this
?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
you know you're not gonna use this in the future
right right absolutely historyis and, like sports, was pretty
much all right, right, yeah, youknow I don't knock anybody that
you know wants to furthereducation?
Go to school, yeah, and ofcourse that's what all of our
parents want us to do.
You know, do everything thetraditional way, but sometimes,
uh, and it like you, it doesn'twork for everybody Exactly, and
(19:31):
school didn't really work for me, but other things did.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah, there's the trades, there's the games yeah.
There's all sorts of differentshit.
You become a pro at this scamgame.
Yeah, can you break that down?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
So I'm in jail, oh yes, one of the many times that
I went to jail.
I was in jail and this Africanguy was like, hey man, he's
telling me about this scam andshit and it's going in one ear
and out the other because I'mstill selling drugs.
That shit is all new to me.
I'm like whatever.
So I run into him at the mallmaybe three months later and he
(20:10):
was like, hey man, remember thatshit I was telling you about,
about the credit cards.
And I'm like, yeah, what's upwith it?
And I'm like down at this point, so not down.
But you know, I'm not doing likemy normal shit so uh he's like,
hey, man, take these fourcredit cards inside Foot Locker
and go get you some shoes.
He said, get me three pair ofshoes and you get yourself one
(20:34):
pair of shoes.
And I'm like, all right, fuckit.
So I go inside Foot Locker, Ihand him the first card, long
ass line, the fucking carddeclines.
And I was like man, this stupidass, shit man.
I don't even know why.
I'm even listening to this dude, so I'm even listening to this
dude.
So I'm on my way getting out theline.
I was like fuck it, I'm gonnatry one more car Gave him.
The other car Receipt came up.
I said, oh shit, I'm hookedalready.
(20:57):
But the dude peoned me likeforever bro.
He didn't really want to showme all the game because he
wanted me to use me as a peon.
He would say, hey, man, go inthere and get 20 cartons of
cigarettes and you can keep 10or 5 or some shit like that.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
You were still coming up.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
It was still free shit for me.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
You didn't know how to do it.
How long did it take for you tosoak up that game?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
I soaked it up immediately, but he would never
show me the different websitesthat you use to obtain the
information and shit like that.
Yeah, yeah yeah, so you know,eventually we kind of split ways
, but I still, I still, I stillappreciate him for the uh, for
the knowledge and the game.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah you got, you got to bro
yeah, yeah yeah, growingindividuals, and sometimes
you're going to get informationand shit you examples you know
Right, absolutely.
Like, if you watch people, likeI think we was talking about
that, but just like, justwatching people, you know, you
can see how people act, you knowif you've seen it before, you
(22:03):
kind of see it coming now, right.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
So you know people.
You know a lot of people weretalking about doing this shit.
Yeah, but I was doing this shitfor real, like the scamming
shit for real.
Yeah, on a heavy scale, like tothe point where I'm getting
Lowe's orders for fifty, sixtythousand dollars on depot and
shit and charging motherfuckers.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
So are you like word of mouth thing?
You're this own little businessthing that you went into
yourself to others when you'rejust out and about, or how did
the customers come to you forthat shit?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
well, a lot of people started coming to me because I
was filling up semis.
Oh yeah, so it kind of spreadlike we're on wifi.
I'm literally making 10 15 000every day.
I walk outside filling up 18wheelers.
At that time, gas was.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
All right, we're going to pause this, we're going
to jump back on our bus andwe'll be back for chapter two of
this exciting adventure.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
With me and Jason and we're recording.
Hello and welcome to theHanging with Humans podcast part
two.
I am, I'm back with Jason.
(23:25):
How are you doing, dog?
How are you doing?
We are on our journey right now, aren't we?
Hell of a journey.
Hell of a journey, hell of ajourney Utah, we made it through
Utah and now we're here inDenver and your next stop is
Indiana right.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Well, that's.
My ultimate stop isIndianapolis, Indiana, but I've
got another 22 hours.
Ooh.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Are you prepared for all that man?
So where we left off wasmortgage broker, mortgage broker
and then scam game breakdown.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
So yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I think we kind of already touched on the mortgage
broker stuff.
I think we kind of left offwhere I first started scamming
and this guy was trying to makeme work for him.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
That's right, right, when you soaked up the game.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, soaked up enough information where I just
went out and done it on my own,yep, yep.
And so when I first starteddoing it, I was getting tons of
cartons of cigarettes.
Yeah, I'm getting like.
I had a warehouse of like 5,000cartons of cigarettes and I had
a couple ARArap guys coming upfrom new york.
(24:31):
They were giving me a hundreddollars per cart nice, nice uh
so after that, you know thatkind of fizzled out because I
burnt it up.
Uh, I could go to like to sam'sclub and get 250 cartons at a
time so I can go across thecountry, all these different
costos and sam's Club getting$250.
But it took like a team ofpeople.
I could do it all by myself.
(24:52):
I had five or six differentpeople going in getting $250 at
a time I got you, I got you.
So, after that kind of fizzledout, you know, with that scam,
shit man, shit changes daily.
Yeah, just as many people thatare out here doing it, there are
10 times as many people outthere trying to combat it.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Got it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The technology.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Yeah, technology Getting in front of all this
stuff, yeah.
But I will tell you a secret,though the same people that are
trying to combat it are the samepeople that are leaking out
information for it to continueto go.
Yeah, it's job security, jobsecurity.
You know you work in cyberpolice, or whatever you want to
call it.
Yeah, yeah, and you come towork and they say oh, we figured
(25:32):
it out, there's no more fraud.
Then you don't have a job.
You don't have a job, yeah.
So of course I wasn't.
You know I'm not.
You got to be up in the ranksto get that type of information,
absolutely you know it stillgets trickled down to the
smaller guys like myself, yeah,yeah.
So after that, like I told you,I was filling up semis.
I was doing like 100 semis aday, making stacks 15,000,
(25:54):
20,000 every day.
I woke up Crazy but I was agambler, yeah, so I'm pissing it
away because it's just as easyas it is for me to make it.
Yeah, I could lose it just asfast and not care, because I
knew tomorrow was going to bethe same thing, until one day
tomorrow didn't Until it didn't.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Yeah, if you're still into the gambling a little bit,
that's all I do.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
I'm a professional gambler Professional I do sports
betting now.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
If you're my bookie right now, what's your most
safest bet in any sport rightoff the top?
Pacers, pacers.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I'm not saying that because I'm from Indiana.
I'm not even a Pacers fan.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I'm a Lakers fan.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I hate the Pacers, but they're cohesive, they have
a good team.
They have a good team.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Solid core yeah they have a solid core.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
That's what it takes to win a championship.
It does.
It's not about one or twosuperstars.
It's about a team that'scohesive.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
They have a lot of first-round picks.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Oh absolutely.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
They just didn't pan out of that first team.
So you know, a big thing onthis podcast is mental health
right and lessons for people tolearn, and I've talked to a
couple of people on my podcastabout going to prison, right,
and so you have.
You know, you said you've beento jail a couple of times but at
40, you go for trafficking.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Can you kind of tell me how that kind of starts, and
then we're going to go into thehow the sheets work, and then
the most amazing story ever ofthe drone.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
All right, so you know I go to prison Forty years
old, First time, even being inprison.
I've been to jail tons of times, yeah, yeah, I've never been
sentenced to any prison time, soI get there.
You know I went to prison witha bunch of money.
Yeah, Because I'm making abunch of money on the streets
and shit.
So people don't understand whenprison man, it's about the
(27:42):
person that has the money thatcan make things happen.
Yeah, that can put people inplaces to make this well, oil
machine run.
Yeah, you know I'm saying yeah.
So, uh, you know I I got in,kind of got my feet wet and uh,
popular thing there was, uh, k2spice, yep, uh, but as opposed
to it being on leafs, it's onpaper, so you spray it, they
(28:06):
spray the paper and we weregetting it in in books, yeah,
like from barnes and noblesbarnes and nobles very clever
have a book sent to me and thenalso have it sent to me in my
legal work, legal work, uh was agood way and these, these one
sheet was five grand damn forlike just one piece, one sheet,
(28:27):
five grand.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
What was this already going down before you got?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah, like I said I
told you earlier, I had a friendwho was leaving.
Yeah, I kind of like yep gaveme the route.
Yeah, so to speak exactly youknow I took advantage of that,
yeah, but go ahead and uh andand race plays a big part.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Oh, absolutely, politics, and absolutely, like
you were dealing with, I'mdealing with arians, I'm dealing
with sks, I'm dealing with Goahead, and race plays a big part
in the politics in prison,absolutely.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
And you are dealing with.
I'm dealing with Aryans, I'mdealing with SKs, I'm dealing
with all kinds of differentaffiliations.
Yeah, but they don't care aboutthat shit when it comes to
money.
Yes, when it comes to money,all that race shit goes out the
window, right out the window.
You know what I'm saying?
They still have their beliefs.
Yes, I'm still not going to besitting there having dinner with
(29:09):
them.
Yeah, yeah, but we're going topolitic to make it at the table
absolutely absolutely yeah soyou know, I don't want to say it
like I was a kingpin, but I waskind of like the biggest dude
in my prison when it came toyeah, yeah to selling drugs.
Uh, also suboxone was reallybig suboxone.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
that's when people get off heroin.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah, it's like a strip that we would get.
Get $600 a strip for Suboxone.
That's crazy.
So.
But the thing is, though, youknow, in prison, when you become
that guy, there's a lot of shitthat comes with that, because
when people get in debt with youso much, they just want to rat
(29:47):
you out, yep, so that you're nolonger around Clean that debt.
So you know, I was in the holeman for six months and that took
a toll on me.
That's what you're saying that'ssix more two different stints
totaling six months, six months,yeah, yeah but, dude, I'm in a
fucking room no bigger than thisright here.
Yeah, no bigger.
This is probably the exact samespace, very small space.
(30:11):
No books, no phone, nocommunication with the outside
world.
You can only come outside totake a shower 30 minutes per day
.
All you have to do is think andyou talk about mental health.
And this is during COVID, too,right this?
Is during COVID.
This is during COVID.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
You were locked up all COVID.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
The whole COVID.
I never witnessed the world onthe outside.
Yeah, yeah, yeah so yeah it wastough.
you know what I'm saying.
But what doesn't kill you makesyou stronger.
Yes, you know what I'm saying.
So I'm definitely a testamentto that.
Yes, and you know I'm saying so, I'm definitely a testament to
that.
Yes.
(30:49):
And you know I'm just as crazyas this may sound, I'm kind of
grateful for that.
For that moment, you know, I'mgrateful for all the mishaps
that I've had in my life becauseit's, you know, kind of make me
the person that I am today.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
And now you know I have 40 some odd Airbnbs that
I'm dealing with.
Yes, sir, you know that'spretty cool.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
That's a big deal bro yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I had a friend when I was in prison.
He was kind of like telling meabout this, but it's going one
area after the other because I'mlike I'm going to do what the
fuck?
I know how to do, yeah.
But when I got out seeing howhe was living, it made perfect
sense and I told myself, yeah,I'm too old to go back to prison
.
This is a young man's sport.
Yeah, prison's a young man'ssport.
(31:31):
Yeah, it's for kids.
Absolutely.
That's no place for a47-year-old man.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Well, dude, that's amazing.
That's a part of your story.
Now that you got 42 Airbnbs, Ibelieve Right and he's showed me
a lot of you know,Documentation and right and I.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
he's showed me a lot of you know, documentation,
documentation.
Uh, you're aiming for 100,right, yeah?
Yeah, that's my goal.
I'd say by the end of 2026.
That's where I want to be andyou have one here, uh three
right here in this building, thecentral building.
There you go right here central.
Yep, that's cool bro.
Yeah, all of the units that Iso 37 of them are in this same
(32:09):
central building, but they'reall throughout the united states
that's cool.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
That's really amazing , bro.
Um, yeah, you've been into thethe mortgage shit for like a
minute like oh yeah, you knowwhat's up.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely um thedrone mission.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I got it this is gonna be okay.
So eventually there came a timewhere the books and shit got
cut off because of COVID.
Yeah, they weren't letting usget any legal.
They were copying our legalmail.
Yep, they were also.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
They caught on.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah, well, they caught on.
And then I guess Barnes andNobles wasn't doing any book
deliveries during COVID I don'teven know if they were still in
operation, but whatever it was,came up with an idea let's get
this shit in with some drones.
So I got about four or fivegood runs with the drone.
It would come and literallyland right on the porch.
(33:03):
I had a hole in my window thatI could seal back up.
Nobody would even know.
And I'd reach my hand out, grabthe shit out the drone and do
it all over.
I had a hole in my window thatI could seal back up.
Nobody would even know.
Yeah, and I reached my hand out, grabbed the shit out the drone
and do it all over again.
And I worked about four or fivetimes and then they got a hold
of that.
And then they put up some newtechnology that detected the
drones in that space.
They're always trying to combatit, aren't they?
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're always trying to combat
it.
I mean, as they should youwelcome to my hanging with
humans podcast.
Uh, I'm not sure what episodeit is or what day it is.
(33:45):
What's today, jason?
uh, 21st, 21st saturday, sunday,sunday the 21st, sunday, the
21st, sunday, the 21st and I'mcurrently Driving around Looking
for my horse with A previousguest, jason Wheeler.
(34:05):
He's here in the flesh.
He came to come down and visit,like a man of his word.
See, we got shotguns right now.
Start blasting these geese.
That's close enough, bro, we'regonna be able to shoot some
geese.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Ooh, that's close enough, bro,we're going to be able to shoot
some geese.
Yeah, it's a wrap, yeah.
So yeah, me and Jason we kept incontact and, you know, man of
(34:29):
his word said I'm going to pullup and we're going to do part
three of the podcast, and that'swhat we're doing now.
We're cruising around lookingfor my horse, but we and that's
what we're doing now we'recruising around looking for my
horse, but we also got straps,we also got guns with us because
it is hunting season and we areall within our legal uh, you
know american rights to to to gohunt this beautiful land that
(34:52):
we're on and, uh, that's whatwe're doing right now.
So, unfortunately, my horse gotout last night again because I
was slipping.
But, yeah, so, jason, how youdoing, bro, how you doing this
morning?
Spectacular.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
That's what I love to hear.
You got a rest in last night.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, nicehospitality.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Appreciate you.
Appreciate you pulling up,Absolutely.
Yeah.
What have you been up to lately, Like since the last time we
were on our little missiontogether?
Same old shit, man.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Just pretty much soaring my royal oats here,
there, a little bit everywhere.
Just you know, I feel it Alittle bit of rock star
lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah, is that still going strong and heavy?
You still out there puttingvideos up for that lavish
lifestyle?
Yeah, that's still going strongand heavy.
You still out there puttingvideos up for that lavish
lifestyle.
Absolutely, that's awesome, bro.
I think last time I talked toyou, you and I, you were in
Vegas to watch the fights, right?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah, I went to watch the fight.
Yeah, but for the fight.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah, yeah, how was it actually?
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I just watched the highlights yesterday.
It was fucking great atmosphere.
The fight wasn't as good asfireworks as you wanted it to be
, yeah, but the atmosphere madeup for it.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
I can imagine that was a super fight.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
It was one of the best fights, Well dubbed one of
the top ten fights of the decade.
Yeah for sure, it was the thirdbiggest gate ever.
What Really?
Third biggest money grossingfight ever in boxing history?
Wow that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yeah, I mean it's a big time fight and that's crazy,
Canelo.
I mean Bud went up too.
Oh yeah, absolutely Like hellaweight.
Yeah, he went up 20 pounds.
He looked good, though he did.
He was like he took all hisshots good.
He got heavy hands too, yeah,yeah.
Yeah, he was hurt, thoughDefinitely a good fight.
(36:44):
Yeah, what was the undercard?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah, I actually didn't pay any attention.
I was more people watching,more busy chilling with Nicky.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, that's my homeboy now.
Yeah, bro, tell me about thatbecause it's crazy.
I'm from Modesto 209.
I got people from Stockton, mybaby mama's from Stockton it's
crazy.
But Nate Diaz, he's like a bigfigure in the 209, him and Nick
and everybody loves him, bro.
So how was that experience?
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Yeah, it was dope man .
I was inside the wind and I waswith a friend of mine and we
were just chit-chatting and Natewas like going in on some dude
His friend, of course.
They were like just you know,ragging on each other and shit,
and we were laughing and shit.
I didn't even know who the fuckhe was.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I thinkhe respected that more than
anything.
You know what I'm saying?
(37:32):
Oh, yeah, for sure, I like thisfucking dude man.
Come on, man, hang out, comehave some drinks.
So we went drunk, hang out withAdrian Broner.
Yeah, then, you know, natecalled me the next day, wanted
me to hang out at the pool again.
So we went and hung out again.
And, yeah, I've been keeping incontact with Nate man.
He's a real good dude.
That's cool, bro, just like howI met you.
(37:54):
I'll probably be somewherehanging out with him going up to
his house sometimes.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
That's what's up bro, I love it.
I love it.
Yeah, man, you know, becauseyou do.
You know I see you in thecasinos.
You're watching fights, you'rewatching ball games.
You're doing a lot of thatentertainment in the city, but
how often do you find yourselfin great outdoors nature?
It's like an anomaly.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Really, this never happens.
Damn bro, this is like uh, yeah, you know, this is a new
experience.
I love it bro.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
I appreciate it.
Yeah, bro, no, I swear, like Iwas telling you earlier in the
crib that, like it.
A part of why I wanted to dothis was I was able to bring my
friends.
You know that I never steppedfoot on a ranch before and they
just bro, it was likeeye-opening experience for them.
You know they were like man,fuck it, I'm trying to get some
(38:46):
land after.
You know what I'm sayingAbsolutely.
And so I'm glad you get to beone of the first.
Yeah, you're really the firstperson to come visit the ranch,
bro, like on some podcast, shit,that's fire.
I love that, bro.
Part three we said we're goingto do it.
We'll do it.
So, oh, so you were.
(39:09):
You FaceTimed Baby Cokesyesterday.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And shout out to Quality Patrolover there.
Shout out to Quality PatrolOver there.
I had a plan and an idea myselffor putting together a studio.
Oh, yeah, yeah, you mentionedthat yesterday.
Yeah, and I don't know ifyou've ever seen Kanye's spot
(39:31):
out in Wyoming.
Yeah, I've seen it on thatdocumentary that's coming out.
Yeah, so you know, I don't knowif it's going to be like that,
but I would like to do a studio,bro, and I got the room ready,
I got the soundproof, all ofthat ready, nice, the closet's
huge so I can just boost that,nice.
And yeah, so I want to.
(39:52):
Maybe later you can kind of runme through some shit.
I know you spent a lot of timein this video.
Absolutely, yeah, too much time, too much time.
Yeah, what are some, uh, whatare some rules of the studio?
Speaker 3 (40:07):
uh, no, smoking, of course you can't smoke in the
studio.
We have an area where you cansmoke.
Uh, you know, everybody has tobe respectful because, you know,
qc Studio, they got a lot ofdifferent people that are not
with QC coming in and out of thestudio.
Yeah, it's just not like their,their their label, like it's a
nice studio, so other peoplelike to come and, you know, take
(40:28):
advantage of the perks of thestudio.
Ah, so so not just no, hell, no, hell, no, all walks of life,
dude.
You know, and pretty much youknow, it's like I mean, you know
we gamble in there heavy.
You know there's a lot of diceshooting in the studio.
Yeah, that's what's up.
(40:48):
You know, just, gentleman shit.
You know, if you know how topresent yourself as a gentleman,
then that's the way you need toact in the studio, pretty
simple.
Yeah, no, I get that.
To present yourself as agentleman, then that's the way
you need to act in the studiopretty soon, yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
I get that Now did they do like a big sale yeah?
Speaker 3 (41:07):
they sold it to Scooter Braun, who used to be
Justin Bieber's manager.
I think he brought it fromsomewhere in the neighborhood of
$350 to $375 billion.
Yeah, that's what I see, bro,something like that.
But you know, here's the thing,man, people don't realize.
Once you have the recipe to dosomething, you can do it again.
(41:31):
Oh yeah, you know what I'msaying.
So I think that's their thoughtprocess.
You know, we'll sell this andwe can recreate a whole new
brand.
We have the recipe.
We obviously didn't do too badfor ourselves.
We were able to grow threehundred and seventy pounds.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah, they built what they built from scratch.
Yeah, absolutely, he might beup in here.
So he's a bit not big, but he'sa brown dude with white lines
going down his face and he's gotwhite socks like is that?
I see somebody over there?
That cow is about the samecolor.
Is that over there?
Speaker 3 (42:11):
bull cow, cow, cow no right here outside the.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
My eyes are horrible.
No, you're good, you got ahundred eyes.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
No, look right here.
That's Eric here in London.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
I could probably cruise around to the other side,
though, to see what's up, orcan you zoom?
You want me to see if I canzoom on my phone, maybe?
Yeah, you got that new iPhone?
No, I don't, this is my old one, I had the new one.
Oh, yeah, you lost your luggageor something.
Yeah, did you get any like textor email or anything?
Speaker 3 (42:52):
like that.
Yeah, somebody sent me an emailtalking about they want me to
unlock it so they can have it.
What?
Yeah, yeah, you're tripping,but I end up having to end doing
doing it anyway, becauseremember, when I was trying to
send you my location yeah it wasit wouldn't allow me because of
my other phone, so I had to endup lodging to this guy's
request, dang.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Yeah, bro, I've been having.
I had bad luck too with thatsame type of shit.
I know he's got me around here.
I know he's got me around here.
There ain't nowhere else to go.
Oh, bro, look at that skythough I'm not going to run Fire
(43:36):
, that's a banger sky though.
Yeah, basically those mountainranges which are not that far.
The higher you drive up, bro,the cooler like the towns.
(43:57):
The towns become, right,they're smaller, but like you
start going back in time and asyou go back in time, everything
is like fully restored,beautiful like it's.
It's really nice, bro, like,and then you can jump in the
little like trolley car thingand it'll drive you across the
mountains with like a big oldmirror or like a like a
(44:20):
windshield, but on the floor.
So you're like watching themountains while you're.
That's crazy.
They got a lot of cool stuff,like.
If you're gonna put some shiton your story like there's cool
shit, yeah, sure, absolutely.
We got a couple amphitheaters,not that far.
It's a cool fucking place tolive, bro, and it's blowing up
(44:46):
too.
Alright, where's my?
Oh, there he is.
You see him For sure.
Yep, conway, my boy.
Yeah, bro.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
That made me so happy .
Speaker 1 (45:21):
What's good, bro.
Oh, those are the other two.
Those are probably the onesthat he chases, though, right
there.
Ah, okay, okay, so he's got tobe around here.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
I thought you seen him.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
I thought it was him, but it was those two right
there.
Ah fuck.
But he's got to be around herebecause those are his honeys
right there, bro, okay, okay.
I ain't never seen no X-T fullof nitty-shitty.
I ain't your hamper for theextra shit.
I'm a fucking club in our state.
That's embarrassing.
I'm a married kid with fun plussome tears.
Watch me just pass.
(45:54):
I'm't hearing you.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Don't talk, no reason .
It's terrible what's happeningwith Top of the Morning man.
Top of the Morning, Top of theMorning.
Here goes my guy.
Yeah, Rick James, I'm RickJames bitch.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Yeah, we on the hunt right now on the search, looking
for my horse, and I'm verygrateful that Jason is here to
join me on this adventure.
It's Sunday morning, good show,I got all these acres out here
Playing, with these acresPlaying with these acres,
playing with these acres that'swhat we're doing with them.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
Yes, sir, that's what we're doing, yeah we're looking
for this horse man.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
There's two of them over there.
We're hot on this trail, that'sfor sure.
We're hot on this trail.
They went across the street,though right, uh, he's he's
crossed the street.
Uh, he's, I've he's crossed thestreet.
Yeah, he's walked down thisroad like down to the end.
(47:04):
Yeah, that's crazy, I know he'sgot a limpy foot like yeah,
there's no way he's like goingoff like that.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
That's crazy.
I know y'all see me partyingand shit all the time.
Sometimes I have to see thispart.
Do shit like this too.
Man, I got this one.
I see us partying and bullshit.
It's crazy.
I'll show what I want to showyou guys.
Yeah, man, we're having a goodday.
Man, Hold on up for this horseman.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Everybody happy to has seen Conway where you at.
Hey, actually I named him afterConway the Machine.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
My favorite rapper.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Conway, conway, shout out the machine.
Oh, there he is, he's layingdown.
He's laying down, oh yeah,where you see him laying down.
Oh my goodness, what are youdoing?
Oh yeah, he's laying down.
He's laying down.
Oh yeah, where you see himlaying down.
Oh my goodness, what are youdoing?
Oh yeah, he is laying down.
Conway, conway, you sleepy,sleepy guy.
(48:05):
Oh my goodness, what are youdoing?
Mister Dipped out to go chillwith the honeys.
We found the horse.
Wow, wow, I got snacks for you.
Yup, found them with the honeys.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Gotta love that.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Gotta love that.
Gotta love that.
Got that artillery out here too.
Artillery out here too.
I'm gonna play around, shootaround a little bit, woo, I'm
(49:12):
out.
Fuck what you wish you gon'praise no Cause you gon' go for
me.
Get up in your feelings and getmore for me.
I'm ready to go, I'm ready togo, I'm ready to go, let's go,
let's go, let's go, let's go,let's go, let's go, let's go,
let's go, let's go, let's go,let's go, let's go, let's go,
(49:45):
let's go, let's go, let's go,let's go, let's go, let's go,
let's go, let's go, let I don'tknow when I'm with you, my
(50:14):
friends, just break it all back.
Nigga, it's a New York trap.
Yeah, fuck cheese, it was a raptrap.
Shit, I'm kinda in control.
You make the homie broke.
I ain't tryna play stupid.
This ain't a dummy show, it's21,.
I'll fuck you in front of show,right here.
If you want Watch a nigga blowit, bitch, come in, be headed.
(50:36):
Now you know she good Damn.
Uh-uh, truly put a lady infront of my name Because we do
the shoes.
Nigga.
Nigga, steady losing Nigga.
Ayy, you know I can't fall forit.
Nigga, steady rap cappin' Causethey like born.
Yeah, so keep watchin' us.
Wanna play?
Tag, nigga, come get your bodytested.
(51:01):
Them niggas black soon withthem.
Shoulders built, I'm out.
What's a rap trap?
At least I kinda know the truth.
You like the homie, so I play,I'm out.
(51:52):
So you better watch your backon that front line.
They got the ass to pop outwhen it's crunch time.
Me and Selfie.
Stick my kids in our respectand I'm through.
Now I got my weapon.
Don't know if I die tonight.
I'm a J-L-A-P-O-N-E.
Just keep on steppin' through.
Got a message for them.
Side hoes, bitch.
I hate you too, nigga.
(52:13):
All I need and I ain't talkabout my knivesoms but she gon'
go for me.
I'm sorry about the pain I putyou through mentally, cause I
know that down the side youain't forgetting me and cut it,
knowing I'm a killer.
You ain't forgetting me.
Been out one block.
You ain't gotta tell my ass tosqueeze.
My man raised me like this, butI've been doing things.
(53:36):
Took that one here.
I'm a bottle, I'm the sum ofthe range, and if We'll be right
back, I'm out.
We'll be right back.
Well, it's time.
I'm going to do the bestpossible.
I got nipples.
I ain't quit talking.
I choke guns.
But that shit man, all youtough Wanna fight.
(54:41):
What Chop got muscles for weed?
Ooh, weed, I am not bluffing.
Check, check.
Put up with another chop.
That's his twinkie.
Freak bitch ain't that big,like it's big money.
Ay, ay, I want some money.
I ain't got no time to waste.
I'm like talking, I'm told guns, but that shit over on the top.
(55:05):
You know I fight with the topgot muscles.
Oh wait, I ain't not playin'.
(55:40):
Tell you to put up with anothertop.
That's a twink.
She eat that dick like it's aMcMuffin.
Ay, I want some money, thoughI'm out.
Hello, welcome to the Hanging with Humans podcast.
This is your host, RJ, andtoday I have a very special
guest.
Today I am with my new homie,Jason Wheeler.
Jason, how you doing dog, howyou doing, how you doing RJizzle
it's good, it's good, bro.
(00:21):
So, man, I wrote some thingsdown because I feel like
everything happens for a reason.
Absolutely it's kind of one ofthem situations that's going on
right now, you know.
No doubt, and so, with thatbeing said, I'm going to
introduce the situation whereJason became a homie overnight,
(00:45):
it seems.
We jump on a bus together andnow we're riding together.
So we're over here in Utah,we're over here just posted up
in Utah.
And when I got on the bus thismorning and I got on this bus
because I missed my flight, Imissed my flight because I lost
my wallet.
But to bring everything fullcircle circle, everything
(01:06):
happens for a reason.
So I struggled and I made itthrough and I got on that bus
and the first person I meet onthe bus, jason Jason Wheeler
right, yes, sir.
And uh.
We started talking and uh abouthow you know why we're in LA,
what's going on, and I was like,yeah, man, I came down here to
visit my sister.
It's a tradition that we go seeKendrick Lamar together.
(01:26):
And he was like, stop playing,I'm here visiting my sister.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Just like that.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Just like that and it was crazy, like that was the
first little introduction to thewhole thing and I was like you
know cool people.
So we start talking aboutbusiness and entrepreneurship
and a little bit about, uh, theonline world and how you can
make money doing that.
And uh, jason, he's got alittle bit of a following on
(01:53):
your bit, pretty big on Facebook, right, right Right.
So he's doing this thing onFacebook monetize.
Uh, if you want to go check outsome type of things, what type
of videos you'd be making onthere, jason?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
out some type of things?
What type of videos you bemaking on there?
Jason, you know I travel acrossthe country so I got all kind
of shit going on, all kind ofshit, primarily just my daily
life, yeah, journeys and shitlike that.
You know people tend togravitate towards the shit that
I put on Facebook.
Nice, I think I got like 26,000followers or some shit like
(02:25):
that posted a video did 28million views about a couple
weeks ago, damn of uh, my, mybest friend's grandfather in the
hospital getting a lap dance inhis uh, in his bed, uh, while
uh getting treatment.
Treatment and kind of took offlike wildfire, I think it did
(02:48):
like fucking a million views inlike four hours and then just
went crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
You set that up.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was the one recording.
You know what you're doing.
His grandfather was like man,we need some hoes in here, man.
He's like man, we need somehoes in here, man.
He's like all right, say less.
My dude's grandfather is well.
His father is a big name.
Qc, quality Control Music,shout out to.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
QC.
Oh, that's who that was for.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, that was, that was.
It was the president of thecompany's grandfather.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Oh, ok.
Well, that was a nice thing foryou to put together.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, jason, it's really glad Igot to meet you.
We still got some.
We still got some mobbing to do.
Absolutely, we got to get downto Denver, I got to get down to
Colorado Springs springs.
But I'm going, I'm heading toindy yeah, indy, that's where
you're heading.
Yeah, yeah, all right.
Well, we're gonna try to makethis work on our trip, where we
(03:53):
can finish a whole podcast rightbut it's gonna be cool because
we're doing it in utah and thenwe're gonna be doing in colorado
you know so um, I'm gonna, I'mgonna ask you a couple questions
.
We'll kind of go and then we'llstop when we gotta jump back on
the bus and we'll just pick up.
Cool, cool, cool, jason wheeler.
You're 49 bro, 47, 47, my bad,47, 47 and, uh, you were down
(04:18):
visiting your older sister myyounger sister.
Younger sister two yearsyounger yeah and um you, you
guys kind of shared a loss hererecently, right yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
My mom passed away February 11th, so it's kind of
brought us a little closer.
You know I tend to probably seeher once a year.
Now I've seen her like fivetimes since.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
February yeah Dang, that's cool bro.
You got to keep that moving.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah, absolutely no doubt.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah.
So a couple of things I wrotedown off top are everything
happens for a reason my missedflight, la, las Vegas, denver,
colorado, kendrick and sister.
And you're the modern day,robin Hood.
Modern day, robin Hood.
(05:05):
We'll get into that and howthat came to be, but we're going
to start with the early years.
You were born and raised where.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
In Indianapolis In.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Indianapolis.
Paint me a picture of what itlooks like growing up in
Indianapolis for you.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I mean you know Indianapolis.
I grew up in one of the tougherneighborhoods called Hallville
Hallville in the house Shout out.
So you know Indianapolis is adangerous place.
I mean it's unfortunate to saythat, but you know you have to
be very cognizant of yoursurroundings and making sure
you're hanging with the rightpeople, because you know people
(05:38):
don't really understand that Onebad decision from hanging with
the wrong crowd can put you inthe predicament that you don't
want to be in.
So I like to pride myself inhaving a good judge of character
, just like how I got a goodjudge of character with you.
How we met.
(05:59):
I was just oh, this is a coolmotherfucker.
You know what I'm saying Forreal.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, we got a thumbnail that's gonna be so lit
in san bernardino.
You know, baby, it's clean, um.
So yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
You grew up in, uh, you know, in a tough
neighborhood, in a toughneighborhood, but, uh, my mother
was able to provide you know,uh, it wasn't like, uh, I had
like a real struggle, yeah, butI didn't live in the best
neighborhood but I always hadlike the best shit yeah, that's
clothes and all the moms keepingfire.
(06:33):
Moms kept, kept me and mysister fly.
So I had three brothers andsisters that passed away prior
to me being born.
Really, yeah, they passed awayin a house fire.
Oh man, three days beforeChristmas, wow, the guy that was
babysitting the kids went tosleep with a cigarette in his
(06:55):
mouth and somehow he makes itout.
Kids don't.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Whoa, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's crazy, you know thingshappen for a reason right.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
There could be a possibility I wouldn't be here
if that didn't take place.
I mean, who knows?
That's really true, though Verywell could have been the case.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Like.
That's why I take everysituation that I'm in like
serious now, absolutely.
And I really look at likethere's going to be like at
least two different ways to lookat it, you know.
No doubt different ways to lookat it.
You know I'll doubt about that.
(07:31):
To make the right, decisionbecause, like you, said it's the
wrong people, yeah, the wrongdecision could cost you your
life.
Yeah, cost you more than that,absolutely others lives.
You hurt others aroundabsolutely 100.
So I'm glad you said said that,bro.
Um, so you're a natural bornhustler, aren't you natural born
hustler?
It's in his blood.
Uh, fourth grade bubble gum,three hundred dollar moment, get
into that.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
This is the start of the hustle so, uh, I'm in the
fourth grade and I walk toschool every day.
So, uh, I walk past theKroger's to get to school every
day.
So every day I would go inKroger's and steal packs of
bubble gum.
So you know, I was the candyman.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
The candy man Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
And I'm making 30, 40 bucks a day, but I'm spending
all my money on basketball cardsand baseball cards.
So one day I guess I was beinga little messy with it I had
like $300 in my room.
My mother was in my roommackling around and what have
you?
She discovered the $300 and shewas like what the hell are you
(08:33):
doing?
How do you got this money?
So you know, I ended up kind ofgiving her the story behind it.
There you have it.
I fell in love withentrepreneurship, with
entrepreneurship at a young age.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, you listened on the bus to my podcast with my
boy Marco, right, yeah, that wasa dope one.
Could you get some of thesimilarities, though?
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Absolutely.
That's why I can relate verymuch Um seventh grade, Um what
happened in seventh grade.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
So seventh grade is when I got caught up in the
locker.
Yeah, yeah so seventh grade iswhen, uh, I stepped it up and
said you know what?
Uh, you know I'm going to startselling marijuana.
So what I would do was I boughtmy first little ounce of
marijuana and I rolled them allup in joints.
So I'm going to school everyday and I'm selling joints in a
(09:34):
Catholic school.
So, you know, it kind of tookoff word of mouth Jason has all
the fucking weed.
So one day I go to school and,uh, it's like five police
officers at my locker and I'mlike what?
the hell is this all about?
(09:55):
So, needless to say, I wasarrested in the seventh grade,
kicked out of school.
Uh, because I had a bunch ofjoints in my lock.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Damn Got busted, so they kicked you out.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, I got kicked out of that school.
I had to go to another school.
It was just a private school.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah yeah.
My mother was actually payingfor me to go to school in
seventh grade.
So fast forward.
You go, start playing, you geta scholarship to basketball.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
When did you?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
start hooping, and what did that look like?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I started hooping when I was six years old.
I was always pretty good.
Everybody liked the way Ihandled the ball, kind of like
some Kyrie type shit.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
I got the handle.
It was like the Kyrie beforeKyrie Nice.
So I got a scholarship to playout in Texas, but unfortunately
I'm going to school for all thewrong reasons.
At this point I'm more aboutthe hustle as opposed to school.
I think I was just going toschool to satisfy, to appease
other people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, not formyself.
(10:56):
I'll end up going to fourdifferent colleges and flunked
out of every one of them becauseat this point, like I said, I'm
selling big weed.
Now, yeah, yeah, kind ofgraduated from the one ounce of
joints to, you know, pounds andpounds and pounds and shit you
even had, like the teacherstrying to help you in school.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, they were giving me grades classes that I
didn't even take, just so Icould remain on the team.
Yeah, after the next semester,same thing.
And then it's like, hey, jason,we can't have you back, I can't
keep putting my job on the linebecause you don't want to do
the right things in school.
So I was in Grayson CountyCollege that's in Denison
(11:41):
Sherman, texas.
That's in Denison Sherman,texas.
Then I transferred to VincennesUniversity where I played, and
I had a guy you guys might befamiliar with, his name's Sean
Marion.
Oh, yeah, the Matrix.
Yeah, he was on the team withme, yep.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
That's what's up, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Then, after that, I transferred to McNeese State
University, which is in LakeCharles Louisiana, Ended up
playing with a gentleman by thename of TR Brown.
He ended up starting backcourtwith Kobe Bryant.
He was the D-League MVP.
Nice Flunked out of there, wentto Clark Atlanta University in
Atlanta and I think when I wentto Clark Atlanta I went to
(12:28):
school.
I went to class the first day.
The next two years that I wasthere, I was going to school
with weed in my book bag asopposed to books.
Yeah, swap those out.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I got a question, so you go uh, indiana, louisiana,
texas, or so so.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
So it was um texas, from texas back to indiana, from
indiana to louisiana, then fromlouisiana to atlanta okay, so's
, I was just trying to see howyou got to ATL.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
So it was school.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, school, right School.
So how much different is it?
Was that your first time inAtlanta?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yes, it was yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
So it had just recently been my first.
I've been to Atlanta a coupletimes now to see my partners I
was telling you about.
Right yeah, that was my firsttime because you hear it's like
black Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Right, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
But I ain't never been there.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
And I went and I was like OK, yeah pretty much, you
know so what I'm saying is sinceit's mostly black in Atlanta,
was that like a different shiftfor you because of that?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, I mean yeah and in some ways, but the
neighborhoods that I hung out inin Indianapolis were all black,
so it wasn't, wasn't as big ofa culture.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Well, like, did you feel more at home?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Oh, absolutely no doubt, as opposed to being in
like Texas, yeah yeah, yeah,yeah yeah no doubt.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Okay, yeah, that's what I was trying to get at.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah,absolutely For sure.
So now we're in ATL.
You're done hooping.
You're done with school.
Yeah, I'm done with school.
And when do you end up doingmortgage brokers?
Speaker 3 (14:12):
After I left Atlanta I became a mortgage broker for a
company called Royal UnitedMortgage and Chase Bank and you
know I was kind of like the kingof that shit.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
You had some haters, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They hated the fact that youknow, know, I was doing my thing
with it and I'm talking like uh, a white guy on the phone and
people are like what the hell isgoing on with this dude?
I'll be on the phone like hey,bob, how are you?
This is uh jason with chasebank.
Uh, motherfuckers are like thismotherfucker is wild to the
(14:48):
point where you know uh, ownersof the company.
They were like everyone has towear a suit to work, but wheeler
can wear whatever the fuck hewants to wear yeah, since you
were just the, because you werehim yeah, yeah so the special
treatment came, and then theystart hating yeah, yeah, yeah
absolutely it'd be like that.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Uh, is there anything crucial in the atlanta years
that you can think of, because Iknow where to go after a
mortgage?
But I mean atlanta, atlanta.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
The atlanta years was like when I really like took
off with like the marijuana.
Like I told you, I never wantedto uh sell like hardcore drugs
that harm people, yep, yep.
You know, I sold a lot ofcocaine, a lot of marijuana,
never anything like heroin ormeth or because I always wanted
to, you know, make people happy.
I sold shit that made peopleparty.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
I didn't want that on my conscience.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, good on you.
That's what I said.
You're like the Robin Hood,you'll find out.
He's the modern, absolutely.
In a lot of different ways.
So your 20s were like they werelit and, like you said, you got
arrested 70 times.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, I've been arrested probably 70 times.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Does that start?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
in your 20s.
It starts in 7th grade.
Dang, so a little bit of in andout, whatever yeah but most of
the things I was getting lockedup consistently for driving on
suspended yeah, driving onsuspended, driving on suspended,
driving on suspended, whicheventually, uh, they deemed me
what they call a habitualtraffic offender, uh, which is a
(16:19):
big deal in indiana.
So you know, if you get to that, I guess to that level, uh, I
ran out of tickets.
No more tickets.
Anytime I get arrested, it'sprison time.
Now, to this day, if I ever getstopped or pulled over for
driving in Indiana, it's anautomatic six years in prison.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
How often do you go to Indiana?
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I probably make it there once every two months or
so, my kids still live there.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
They just moved back there.
That's where they're at.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Okay, yeah, yeah yeah , that's what's up, you got twin
daughters.
Twin daughters and a son that's27.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Older son.
He was in LA, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
He was living in LA with my sister for like five
years.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Nice yeah yeah, you become the most ball and
mortgage broker, then they starthating.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
How does that end and where do you go from?
How did you get in a scam game?
All right, scam game heavy, souh, so, um, when I was uh doing
my thing with the mortgages,obama got an office and he
implemented all this new shit.
Uh, they kind of weeded out alot of good loan officers like
myself, like things, as, uh, youhave to have uh, uh like a six
(17:34):
50 credit score to be a broker,which I don't think at that time
, I was nowhere near six 50credit score or after Obama came
.
this is when Obama came in, heimplemented, uh like I think it
was something like the care actor something something.
So any score, you can do it.
Well, you couldn't be a lawyer.
Their thought process on thiswas how can you help somebody
(17:55):
with their credit and you don'teven have good credit?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, I guess yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
I mean, I guess that was their thought process.
And then they also implementeda bunch of testing that, prior
to Obama coming in, make you cantake one uniform test, yeah, to
do mortgages in all 50 states.
But then when he came in heimplemented you have to be
licensed in every state, youhave to take a test in every
state yeah, state individual.
That's a pain kind of weeded meout because I was never like uh
(18:25):
good with books, but I was goodwith talking to people.
Yeah, I can ad-lib, but when itcame to like studying and shit,
that was just never my thing.
Obviously.
See, I flunked out everycollege.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah, I see that uh, I feel like just everybody is
better in one lane than others,absolutely mostly you know like
once you learn your learningstyle right you know, I had to
realize like because I didn'thave the good, really great,
grades in high school right, butmy teachers thought I was smart
right, but I could not payattention.
(18:56):
I have bad adhd.
That was a part of it, but it'slike I feel like my creative
side of my brain wasn't gettinganything at all right so it like
it's like kind of like fuckthis shit why are you doing this
?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
you know you're not gonna use this in the future
right right absolutely historyis and, like sports, was pretty
much all right, right, yeah, youknow I don't knock anybody that
you know wants to furthereducation?
Go to school, yeah, and ofcourse that's what all of our
parents want us to do.
You know, do everything thetraditional way, but sometimes,
uh, and it like you, it doesn'twork for everybody Exactly, and
(19:31):
school didn't really work for me, but other things did.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah, there's the trades, there's the games yeah.
There's all sorts of differentshit.
You become a pro at this scamgame.
Yeah, can you break that down?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
So I'm in jail, oh yes, one of the many times that
I went to jail.
I was in jail and this Africanguy was like, hey man, he's
telling me about this scam andshit and it's going in one ear
and out the other because I'mstill selling drugs.
That shit is all new to me.
I'm like whatever.
So I run into him at the mallmaybe three months later and he
(20:10):
was like, hey man, remember thatshit I was telling you about,
about the credit cards.
And I'm like, yeah, what's upwith it?
And I'm like down at this point, so not down.
But you know, I'm not doing likemy normal shit so uh he's like,
hey, man, take these fourcredit cards inside Foot Locker
and go get you some shoes.
He said, get me three pair ofshoes and you get yourself one
(20:34):
pair of shoes.
And I'm like, all right, fuckit.
So I go inside Foot Locker, Ihand him the first card, long
ass line, the fucking carddeclines.
And I was like man, this stupidass, shit man.
I don't even know why.
I'm even listening to this dude, so I'm even listening to this
dude.
So I'm on my way getting out theline.
I was like fuck it, I'm gonnatry one more car Gave him.
The other car Receipt came up.
I said, oh shit, I'm hookedalready.
(20:57):
But the dude peoned me likeforever bro.
He didn't really want to showme all the game because he
wanted me to use me as a peon.
He would say, hey, man, go inthere and get 20 cartons of
cigarettes and you can keep 10or 5 or some shit like that.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
You were still coming up.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
It was still free shit for me.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
You didn't know how to do it.
How long did it take for you tosoak up that game?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
I soaked it up immediately, but he would never
show me the different websitesthat you use to obtain the
information and shit like that.
Yeah, yeah yeah, so you know,eventually we kind of split ways
, but I still, I still, I stillappreciate him for the uh, for
the knowledge and the game.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah you got, you got to bro
yeah, yeah yeah, growingindividuals, and sometimes
you're going to get informationand shit you examples you know
Right, absolutely.
Like, if you watch people, likeI think we was talking about
that, but just like, justwatching people, you know, you
can see how people act, you knowif you've seen it before, you
(22:03):
kind of see it coming now, right.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
So you know people.
You know a lot of people weretalking about doing this shit.
Yeah, but I was doing this shitfor real, like the scamming
shit for real.
Yeah, on a heavy scale, like tothe point where I'm getting
Lowe's orders for fifty, sixtythousand dollars on depot and
shit and charging motherfuckers.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
So are you like word of mouth thing?
You're this own little businessthing that you went into
yourself to others when you'rejust out and about, or how did
the customers come to you forthat shit?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
well, a lot of people started coming to me because I
was filling up semis.
Oh yeah, so it kind of spreadlike we're on wifi.
I'm literally making 10 15 000every day.
I walk outside filling up 18wheelers.
At that time, gas was.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
All right, we're going to pause this, we're going
to jump back on our bus andwe'll be back for chapter two of
this exciting adventure.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
With me and Jason and we're recording.
Hello and welcome to theHanging with Humans podcast part
two.
I am, I'm back with Jason.
(23:25):
How are you doing, dog?
How are you doing?
We are on our journey right now, aren't we?
Hell of a journey.
Hell of a journey, hell of ajourney Utah, we made it through
Utah and now we're here inDenver and your next stop is
Indiana right.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Well, that's.
My ultimate stop isIndianapolis, Indiana, but I've
got another 22 hours.
Ooh.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Are you prepared for all that man?
So where we left off wasmortgage broker, mortgage broker
and then scam game breakdown.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
So yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I think we kind of already touched on the mortgage
broker stuff.
I think we kind of left offwhere I first started scamming
and this guy was trying to makeme work for him.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
That's right, right, when you soaked up the game.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, soaked up enough information where I just
went out and done it on my own,yep, yep.
And so when I first starteddoing it, I was getting tons of
cartons of cigarettes.
Yeah, I'm getting like.
I had a warehouse of like 5,000cartons of cigarettes and I had
a couple ARArap guys coming upfrom new york.
(24:31):
They were giving me a hundreddollars per cart nice, nice uh
so after that, you know thatkind of fizzled out because I
burnt it up.
Uh, I could go to like to sam'sclub and get 250 cartons at a
time so I can go across thecountry, all these different
costos and sam's Club getting$250.
But it took like a team ofpeople.
I could do it all by myself.
(24:52):
I had five or six differentpeople going in getting $250 at
a time I got you, I got you.
So, after that kind of fizzledout, you know, with that scam,
shit man, shit changes daily.
Yeah, just as many people thatare out here doing it, there are
10 times as many people outthere trying to combat it.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Got it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The technology.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Yeah, technology Getting in front of all this
stuff, yeah.
But I will tell you a secret,though the same people that are
trying to combat it are the samepeople that are leaking out
information for it to continueto go.
Yeah, it's job security, jobsecurity.
You know you work in cyberpolice, or whatever you want to
call it.
Yeah, yeah, and you come towork and they say oh, we figured
(25:32):
it out, there's no more fraud.
Then you don't have a job.
You don't have a job, yeah.
So of course I wasn't.
You know I'm not.
You got to be up in the ranksto get that type of information,
absolutely you know it stillgets trickled down to the
smaller guys like myself, yeah,yeah.
So after that, like I told you,I was filling up semis.
I was doing like 100 semis aday, making stacks 15,000,
(25:54):
20,000 every day.
I woke up Crazy but I was agambler, yeah, so I'm pissing it
away because it's just as easyas it is for me to make it.
Yeah, I could lose it just asfast and not care, because I
knew tomorrow was going to bethe same thing, until one day
tomorrow didn't Until it didn't.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Yeah, if you're still into the gambling a little bit,
that's all I do.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
I'm a professional gambler Professional I do sports
betting now.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
If you're my bookie right now, what's your most
safest bet in any sport rightoff the top?
Pacers, pacers.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
I'm not saying that because I'm from Indiana.
I'm not even a Pacers fan.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I'm a Lakers fan.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I hate the Pacers, but they're cohesive, they have
a good team.
They have a good team.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Solid core yeah they have a solid core.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
That's what it takes to win a championship.
It does.
It's not about one or twosuperstars.
It's about a team that'scohesive.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
They have a lot of first-round picks.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Oh absolutely.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
They just didn't pan out of that first team.
So you know, a big thing onthis podcast is mental health
right and lessons for people tolearn, and I've talked to a
couple of people on my podcastabout going to prison, right,
and so you have.
You know, you said you've beento jail a couple of times but at
40, you go for trafficking.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Can you kind of tell me how that kind of starts, and
then we're going to go into thehow the sheets work, and then
the most amazing story ever ofthe drone.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
All right, so you know I go to prison Forty years
old, First time, even being inprison.
I've been to jail tons of times, yeah, yeah, I've never been
sentenced to any prison time, soI get there.
You know I went to prison witha bunch of money.
Yeah, Because I'm making abunch of money on the streets
and shit.
So people don't understand whenprison man, it's about the
(27:42):
person that has the money thatcan make things happen.
Yeah, that can put people inplaces to make this well, oil
machine run.
Yeah, you know I'm saying yeah.
So, uh, you know I I got in,kind of got my feet wet and uh,
popular thing there was, uh, k2spice, yep, uh, but as opposed
to it being on leafs, it's onpaper, so you spray it, they
(28:06):
spray the paper and we weregetting it in in books, yeah,
like from barnes and noblesbarnes and nobles very clever
have a book sent to me and thenalso have it sent to me in my
legal work, legal work, uh was agood way and these, these one
sheet was five grand damn forlike just one piece, one sheet,
(28:27):
five grand.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
What was this already going down before you got?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah, like I said I
told you earlier, I had a friendwho was leaving.
Yeah, I kind of like yep gaveme the route.
Yeah, so to speak exactly youknow I took advantage of that,
yeah, but go ahead and uh andand race plays a big part.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Oh, absolutely, politics, and absolutely, like
you were dealing with, I'mdealing with arians, I'm dealing
with sks, I'm dealing with Goahead, and race plays a big part
in the politics in prison,absolutely.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
And you are dealing with.
I'm dealing with Aryans, I'mdealing with SKs, I'm dealing
with all kinds of differentaffiliations.
Yeah, but they don't care aboutthat shit when it comes to
money.
Yes, when it comes to money,all that race shit goes out the
window, right out the window.
You know what I'm saying?
They still have their beliefs.
Yes, I'm still not going to besitting there having dinner with
(29:09):
them.
Yeah, yeah, but we're going topolitic to make it at the table
absolutely absolutely yeah soyou know, I don't want to say it
like I was a kingpin, but I waskind of like the biggest dude
in my prison when it came toyeah, yeah to selling drugs.
Uh, also suboxone was reallybig suboxone.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
that's when people get off heroin.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah, it's like a strip that we would get.
Get $600 a strip for Suboxone.
That's crazy.
So.
But the thing is, though, youknow, in prison, when you become
that guy, there's a lot of shitthat comes with that, because
when people get in debt with youso much, they just want to rat
(29:47):
you out, yep, so that you're nolonger around Clean that debt.
So you know, I was in the holeman for six months and that took
a toll on me.
That's what you're saying that'ssix more two different stints
totaling six months, six months,yeah, yeah but, dude, I'm in a
fucking room no bigger than thisright here.
Yeah, no bigger.
This is probably the exact samespace, very small space.
(30:11):
No books, no phone, nocommunication with the outside
world.
You can only come outside totake a shower 30 minutes per day
.
All you have to do is think andyou talk about mental health.
And this is during COVID, too,right this?
Is during COVID.
This is during COVID.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
You were locked up all COVID.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
The whole COVID.
I never witnessed the world onthe outside.
Yeah, yeah, yeah so yeah it wastough.
you know what I'm saying.
But what doesn't kill you makesyou stronger.
Yes, you know what I'm saying.
So I'm definitely a testamentto that.
Yes, and you know I'm saying so, I'm definitely a testament to
that.
Yes.
(30:49):
And you know I'm just as crazyas this may sound, I'm kind of
grateful for that.
For that moment, you know, I'mgrateful for all the mishaps
that I've had in my life becauseit's, you know, kind of make me
the person that I am today.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
And now you know I have 40 some odd Airbnbs that
I'm dealing with.
Yes, sir, you know that'spretty cool.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
That's a big deal bro yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I had a friend when I was in prison.
He was kind of like telling meabout this, but it's going one
area after the other because I'mlike I'm going to do what the
fuck?
I know how to do, yeah.
But when I got out seeing howhe was living, it made perfect
sense and I told myself, yeah,I'm too old to go back to prison
.
This is a young man's sport.
Yeah, prison's a young man'ssport.
(31:31):
Yeah, it's for kids.
Absolutely.
That's no place for a47-year-old man.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Well, dude, that's amazing.
That's a part of your story.
Now that you got 42 Airbnbs, Ibelieve Right and he's showed me
a lot of you know,Documentation and right and I.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
he's showed me a lot of you know, documentation,
documentation.
Uh, you're aiming for 100,right, yeah?
Yeah, that's my goal.
I'd say by the end of 2026.
That's where I want to be andyou have one here, uh three
right here in this building, thecentral building.
There you go right here central.
Yep, that's cool bro.
Yeah, all of the units that Iso 37 of them are in this same
(32:09):
central building, but they'reall throughout the united states
that's cool.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
That's really amazing , bro.
Um, yeah, you've been into thethe mortgage shit for like a
minute like oh yeah, you knowwhat's up.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely um thedrone mission.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I got it this is gonna be okay.
So eventually there came a timewhere the books and shit got
cut off because of COVID.
Yeah, they weren't letting usget any legal.
They were copying our legalmail.
Yep, they were also.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
They caught on.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah, well, they caught on.
And then I guess Barnes andNobles wasn't doing any book
deliveries during COVID I don'teven know if they were still in
operation, but whatever it was,came up with an idea let's get
this shit in with some drones.
So I got about four or fivegood runs with the drone.
It would come and literallyland right on the porch.
(33:03):
I had a hole in my window thatI could seal back up.
Nobody would even know.
And I'd reach my hand out, grabthe shit out the drone and do
it all over.
I had a hole in my window thatI could seal back up.
Nobody would even know.
Yeah, and I reached my hand out, grabbed the shit out the drone
and do it all over again.
And I worked about four or fivetimes and then they got a hold
of that.
And then they put up some newtechnology that detected the
drones in that space.
They're always trying to combatit, aren't they?
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're always trying to combat
it.
I mean, as they should youwelcome to my hanging with
humans podcast.
Uh, I'm not sure what episodeit is or what day it is.
(33:45):
What's today, jason?
uh, 21st, 21st saturday, sunday,sunday the 21st, sunday, the
21st, sunday, the 21st and I'mcurrently Driving around Looking
for my horse with A previousguest, jason Wheeler.
(34:05):
He's here in the flesh.
He came to come down and visit,like a man of his word.
See, we got shotguns right now.
Start blasting these geese.
That's close enough, bro, we'regonna be able to shoot some
geese.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Ooh, that's close enough, bro,we're going to be able to shoot
some geese.
Yeah, it's a wrap, yeah.
So yeah, me and Jason we kept incontact and, you know, man of
(34:29):
his word said I'm going to pullup and we're going to do part
three of the podcast, and that'swhat we're doing now.
We're cruising around lookingfor my horse, but we and that's
what we're doing now we'recruising around looking for my
horse, but we also got straps,we also got guns with us because
it is hunting season and we areall within our legal uh, you
know american rights to to to gohunt this beautiful land that
(34:52):
we're on and, uh, that's whatwe're doing right now.
So, unfortunately, my horse gotout last night again because I
was slipping.
But, yeah, so, jason, how youdoing, bro, how you doing this
morning?
Spectacular.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
That's what I love to hear.
You got a rest in last night.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, nicehospitality.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Appreciate you.
Appreciate you pulling up,Absolutely.
Yeah.
What have you been up to lately, Like since the last time we
were on our little missiontogether?
Same old shit, man.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Just pretty much soaring my royal oats here,
there, a little bit everywhere.
Just you know, I feel it Alittle bit of rock star
lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah, is that still going strong and heavy?
You still out there puttingvideos up for that lavish
lifestyle?
Yeah, that's still going strongand heavy.
You still out there puttingvideos up for that lavish
lifestyle.
Absolutely, that's awesome, bro.
I think last time I talked toyou, you and I, you were in
Vegas to watch the fights, right?
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah, I went to watch the fight.
Yeah, but for the fight.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah, yeah, how was it actually?
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I just watched the highlights yesterday.
It was fucking great atmosphere.
The fight wasn't as good asfireworks as you wanted it to be
, yeah, but the atmosphere madeup for it.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
I can imagine that was a super fight.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
It was one of the best fights, Well dubbed one of
the top ten fights of the decade.
Yeah for sure, it was the thirdbiggest gate ever.
What Really?
Third biggest money grossingfight ever in boxing history?
Wow that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yeah, I mean it's a big time fight and that's crazy,
Canelo.
I mean Bud went up too.
Oh yeah, absolutely Like hellaweight.
Yeah, he went up 20 pounds.
He looked good, though he did.
He was like he took all hisshots good.
He got heavy hands too, yeah,yeah.
Yeah, he was hurt, thoughDefinitely a good fight.
(36:44):
Yeah, what was the undercard?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah, I actually didn't pay any attention.
I was more people watching,more busy chilling with Nicky.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, that's my homeboy now.
Yeah, bro, tell me about thatbecause it's crazy.
I'm from Modesto 209.
I got people from Stockton, mybaby mama's from Stockton it's
crazy.
But Nate Diaz, he's like a bigfigure in the 209, him and Nick
and everybody loves him, bro.
So how was that experience?
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Yeah, it was dope man .
I was inside the wind and I waswith a friend of mine and we
were just chit-chatting and Natewas like going in on some dude
His friend, of course.
They were like just you know,ragging on each other and shit,
and we were laughing and shit.
I didn't even know who the fuckhe was.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I thinkhe respected that more than
anything.
You know what I'm saying?
(37:32):
Oh, yeah, for sure, I like thisfucking dude man.
Come on, man, hang out, comehave some drinks.
So we went drunk, hang out withAdrian Broner.
Yeah, then, you know, natecalled me the next day, wanted
me to hang out at the pool again.
So we went and hung out again.
And, yeah, I've been keeping incontact with Nate man.
He's a real good dude.
That's cool, bro, just like howI met you.
(37:54):
I'll probably be somewherehanging out with him going up to
his house sometimes.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
That's what's up bro, I love it.
I love it.
Yeah, man, you know, becauseyou do.
You know I see you in thecasinos.
You're watching fights, you'rewatching ball games.
You're doing a lot of thatentertainment in the city, but
how often do you find yourselfin great outdoors nature?
It's like an anomaly.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Really, this never happens.
Damn bro, this is like uh, yeah, you know, this is a new
experience.
I love it bro.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
I appreciate it.
Yeah, bro, no, I swear, like Iwas telling you earlier in the
crib that, like it.
A part of why I wanted to dothis was I was able to bring my
friends.
You know that I never steppedfoot on a ranch before and they
just bro, it was likeeye-opening experience for them.
You know they were like man,fuck it, I'm trying to get some
(38:46):
land after.
You know what I'm sayingAbsolutely.
And so I'm glad you get to beone of the first.
Yeah, you're really the firstperson to come visit the ranch,
bro, like on some podcast, shit,that's fire.
I love that, bro.
Part three we said we're goingto do it.
We'll do it.
So, oh, so you were.
(39:09):
You FaceTimed Baby Cokesyesterday.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And shout out to Quality Patrolover there.
Shout out to Quality PatrolOver there.
I had a plan and an idea myselffor putting together a studio.
Oh, yeah, yeah, you mentionedthat yesterday.
Yeah, and I don't know ifyou've ever seen Kanye's spot
(39:31):
out in Wyoming.
Yeah, I've seen it on thatdocumentary that's coming out.
Yeah, so you know, I don't knowif it's going to be like that,
but I would like to do a studio,bro, and I got the room ready,
I got the soundproof, all ofthat ready, nice, the closet's
huge so I can just boost that,nice.
And yeah, so I want to.
(39:52):
Maybe later you can kind of runme through some shit.
I know you spent a lot of timein this video.
Absolutely, yeah, too much time, too much time.
Yeah, what are some, uh, whatare some rules of the studio?
Speaker 3 (40:07):
uh, no, smoking, of course you can't smoke in the
studio.
We have an area where you cansmoke.
Uh, you know, everybody has tobe respectful because, you know,
qc Studio, they got a lot ofdifferent people that are not
with QC coming in and out of thestudio.
Yeah, it's just not like their,their their label, like it's a
nice studio, so other peoplelike to come and, you know, take
(40:28):
advantage of the perks of thestudio.
Ah, so so not just no, hell, no, hell, no, all walks of life,
dude.
You know, and pretty much youknow, it's like I mean, you know
we gamble in there heavy.
You know there's a lot of diceshooting in the studio.
Yeah, that's what's up.
(40:48):
You know, just, gentleman shit.
You know, if you know how topresent yourself as a gentleman,
then that's the way you need toact in the studio, pretty
simple.
Yeah, no, I get that.
To present yourself as agentleman, then that's the way
you need to act in the studiopretty soon, yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
I get that Now did they do like a big sale yeah?
Speaker 3 (41:07):
they sold it to Scooter Braun, who used to be
Justin Bieber's manager.
I think he brought it fromsomewhere in the neighborhood of
$350 to $375 billion.
Yeah, that's what I see, bro,something like that.
But you know, here's the thing,man, people don't realize.
Once you have the recipe to dosomething, you can do it again.
(41:31):
Oh yeah, you know what I'msaying.
So I think that's their thoughtprocess.
You know, we'll sell this andwe can recreate a whole new
brand.
We have the recipe.
We obviously didn't do too badfor ourselves.
We were able to grow threehundred and seventy pounds.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Yeah, they built what they built from scratch.
Yeah, absolutely, he might beup in here.
So he's a bit not big, but he'sa brown dude with white lines
going down his face and he's gotwhite socks like is that?
I see somebody over there?
That cow is about the samecolor.
Is that over there?
Speaker 3 (42:11):
bull cow, cow, cow no right here outside the.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
My eyes are horrible.
No, you're good, you got ahundred eyes.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
No, look right here.
That's Eric here in London.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
I could probably cruise around to the other side,
though, to see what's up, orcan you zoom?
You want me to see if I canzoom on my phone, maybe?
Yeah, you got that new iPhone?
No, I don't, this is my old one, I had the new one.
Oh, yeah, you lost your luggageor something.
Yeah, did you get any like textor email or anything?
Speaker 3 (42:52):
like that.
Yeah, somebody sent me an emailtalking about they want me to
unlock it so they can have it.
What?
Yeah, yeah, you're tripping,but I end up having to end doing
doing it anyway, becauseremember, when I was trying to
send you my location yeah it wasit wouldn't allow me because of
my other phone, so I had to endup lodging to this guy's
request, dang.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Yeah, bro, I've been having.
I had bad luck too with thatsame type of shit.
I know he's got me around here.
I know he's got me around here.
There ain't nowhere else to go.
Oh, bro, look at that skythough I'm not going to run Fire
(43:36):
, that's a banger sky though.
Yeah, basically those mountainranges which are not that far.
The higher you drive up, bro,the cooler like the towns.
(43:57):
The towns become, right,they're smaller, but like you
start going back in time and asyou go back in time, everything
is like fully restored,beautiful like it's.
It's really nice, bro, like,and then you can jump in the
little like trolley car thingand it'll drive you across the
mountains with like a big oldmirror or like a like a
(44:20):
windshield, but on the floor.
So you're like watching themountains while you're.
That's crazy.
They got a lot of cool stuff,like.
If you're gonna put some shiton your story like there's cool
shit, yeah, sure, absolutely.
We got a couple amphitheaters,not that far.
It's a cool fucking place tolive, bro, and it's blowing up
(44:46):
too.
Alright, where's my?
Oh, there he is.
You see him For sure.
Yep, conway, my boy.
Yeah, bro.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
That made me so happy .
Speaker 1 (45:21):
What's good, bro.
Oh, those are the other two.
Those are probably the onesthat he chases, though, right
there.
Ah, okay, okay, so he's got tobe around here.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
I thought you seen him.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
I thought it was him, but it was those two right
there.
Ah fuck.
But he's got to be around herebecause those are his honeys
right there, bro, okay, okay.
I ain't never seen no X-T fullof nitty-shitty.
I ain't your hamper for theextra shit.
I'm a fucking club in our state.
That's embarrassing.
I'm a married kid with fun plussome tears.
Watch me just pass.
(45:54):
I'm't hearing you.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Don't talk, no reason .
It's terrible what's happeningwith Top of the Morning man.
Top of the Morning, Top of theMorning.
Here goes my guy.
Yeah, Rick James, I'm RickJames bitch.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Yeah, we on the hunt right now on the search, looking
for my horse, and I'm verygrateful that Jason is here to
join me on this adventure.
It's Sunday morning, good show,I got all these acres out here
Playing, with these acresPlaying with these acres,
playing with these acres that'swhat we're doing with them.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
Yes, sir, that's what we're doing, yeah we're looking
for this horse man.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
There's two of them over there.
We're hot on this trail, that'sfor sure.
We're hot on this trail.
They went across the street,though right, uh, he's he's
crossed the street.
Uh, he's, I've he's crossed thestreet.
Yeah, he's walked down thisroad like down to the end.
(47:04):
Yeah, that's crazy, I know he'sgot a limpy foot like yeah,
there's no way he's like goingoff like that.
Speaker 3 (47:13):
That's crazy.
I know y'all see me partyingand shit all the time.
Sometimes I have to see thispart.
Do shit like this too.
Man, I got this one.
I see us partying and bullshit.
It's crazy.
I'll show what I want to showyou guys.
Yeah, man, we're having a goodday.
Man, Hold on up for this horseman.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Everybody happy to has seen Conway where you at.
Hey, actually I named him afterConway the Machine.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
My favorite rapper.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Conway, conway, shout out the machine.
Oh, there he is, he's layingdown.
He's laying down, oh yeah,where you see him laying down.
Oh my goodness, what are youdoing?
Oh yeah, he's laying down.
He's laying down.
Oh yeah, where you see himlaying down.
Oh my goodness, what are youdoing?
Oh yeah, he is laying down.
Conway, conway, you sleepy,sleepy guy.
(48:05):
Oh my goodness, what are youdoing?
Mister Dipped out to go chillwith the honeys.
We found the horse.
Wow, wow, I got snacks for you.
Yup, found them with the honeys.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Gotta love that.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Gotta love that.
Gotta love that.
Got that artillery out here too.
Artillery out here too.
I'm gonna play around, shootaround a little bit, woo, I'm
(49:12):
out.
Fuck what you wish you gon'praise no Cause you gon' go for
me.
Get up in your feelings and getmore for me.
I'm ready to go, I'm ready togo, I'm ready to go, let's go,
let's go, let's go, let's go,let's go, let's go, let's go,
let's go, let's go, let's go,let's go, let's go, let's go,
(49:45):
let's go, let's go, let's go,let's go, let's go, let's go,
let's go, let's go, let I don'tknow when I'm with you, my
(50:14):
friends, just break it all back.
Nigga, it's a New York trap.
Yeah, fuck cheese, it was a raptrap.
Shit, I'm kinda in control.
You make the homie broke.
I ain't tryna play stupid.
This ain't a dummy show, it's21,.
I'll fuck you in front of show,right here.
If you want Watch a nigga blowit, bitch, come in, be headed.
(50:36):
Now you know she good Damn.
Uh-uh, truly put a lady infront of my name Because we do
the shoes.
Nigga.
Nigga, steady losing Nigga.
Ayy, you know I can't fall forit.
Nigga, steady rap cappin' Causethey like born.
Yeah, so keep watchin' us.
Wanna play?
Tag, nigga, come get your bodytested.
(51:01):
Them niggas black soon withthem.
Shoulders built, I'm out.
What's a rap trap?
At least I kinda know the truth.
You like the homie, so I play,I'm out.
(51:52):
So you better watch your backon that front line.
They got the ass to pop outwhen it's crunch time.
Me and Selfie.
Stick my kids in our respectand I'm through.
Now I got my weapon.
Don't know if I die tonight.
I'm a J-L-A-P-O-N-E.
Just keep on steppin' through.
Got a message for them.
Side hoes, bitch.
I hate you too, nigga.
(52:13):
All I need and I ain't talkabout my knivesoms but she gon'
go for me.
I'm sorry about the pain I putyou through mentally, cause I
know that down the side youain't forgetting me and cut it,
knowing I'm a killer.
You ain't forgetting me.
Been out one block.
You ain't gotta tell my ass tosqueeze.
My man raised me like this, butI've been doing things.
(53:36):
Took that one here.
I'm a bottle, I'm the sum ofthe range, and if We'll be right
back, I'm out.
We'll be right back.
Well, it's time.
I'm going to do the bestpossible.
I got nipples.
I ain't quit talking.
I choke guns.
But that shit man, all youtough Wanna fight.
(54:41):
What Chop got muscles for weed?
Ooh, weed, I am not bluffing.
Check, check.
Put up with another chop.
That's his twinkie.
Freak bitch ain't that big,like it's big money.
Ay, ay, I want some money.
I ain't got no time to waste.
I'm like talking, I'm told guns, but that shit over on the top.
(55:05):
You know I fight with the topgot muscles.
Oh wait, I ain't not playin'.
(55:40):
Tell you to put up with anothertop.
That's a twink.
She eat that dick like it's aMcMuffin.
Ay, I want some money, thoughI'm out.
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