S2 E20 | Joey Lumpkin's Entrepreneurial Journey: From Fitness Supplement Breakthroughs and Branding with Venom Nutrition to MMA Insights, Street Racing Thrills, and Motorcycle Crash Recovery - Happy Hour Holidaze

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Sean Febre & Manny Febre (00:00):
All right guys, welcome to another
episode of Happy Hour Holidays,your go-to podcast for
entrepreneurship, life storiesand business.
Just want to give you a littlebit of motivation today.
Never fucking settle, never besatisfied, make sure.
And it's not about beingungrateful, it's just about

(00:20):
wanting to do better and you canalways do better.
Just keep that in mind when you,when you think what does the
great les brown say the greatles brown, yeah, yeah, go ahead,
okay.
He says, uh, damn it, bro, Ihad it outside and now I don't
know it it's um what'd you smokeon your break just now people
get comfortable yeah they saysay never become comfortable, or

(00:43):
no?
Man, I fucking forgot.
The lights freak them out.

Joey Lumpkin (00:47):
The lights freak them out.

Anyway .

This is the first time.

I'm your fucking co-host every
single week, manny Fresh.
I've got my co-host, sean Fabre, and we got the— the resume,
the resume.
Sean Fabre Resume man Resumeman.

You want any info on this guy.
You got to hit the downloadbutton.

I think you were here last time.
And we got Joey Lumpkin again.
You know this is a man of manytraits, always hustling, always
grinding, and man, we're happyto have you in here today.

Yeah, I appreciate you, man, Definitely Dude.

I think we were talking about that
last time when it came to like,when it came to the resume,
this guy was like, and I gotthis and I got this and the book
and the book which I have somecopies of the book.
I mean you can check it out onAudible and on Kindle.
You know the Galaxian Rift.

Tap in Any of my readers out there.

Yeah, man, hey did you buy a book yet.

Did I buy a book?

I hate reading.

God.
Well, that's why you gotaudible bro.

When you're at the gym being led by
no man.

I listen to R&B music when I work out R&B.

What are you fucking the dumbbells?
I'm making love to the weights.

I got a lot of hate in here, so that's what
kind of calms me.

I'm trying to fight the demons, so I
put on some old school shitTalking about led by no man and
fighting the demons and being inthe gym, you and fighting the
demons and being in the gym.
You just came out with a lineof supplements.
Yes, sir, you want to walk usthrough them, Because I mean,
there's quite a bit there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So this is kind of just a quickglimpse of what I'm physically
touching.
I guess it kind of started.
A lot of you guys know I'msponsored with 5% Nutrition
Stride Labs.
I work with Tough Wraps andthen then also w energy, so I'm
tied into all this stuff.

(02:28):
I love it.
I'm always at the gym.
This is kind of my shit.
So I'm like, if I'm gonna takeit, why not make it?
Yeah, so started looking intostuff.
Um, one of the biggest thingsthat triggered me was I wanted a
supplement that had creatine init but also beta alanine.
I don't see anything withblends like that, so, so, fuck,

(02:49):
I'm gonna make my own blend so,so creatine blend with with beta
alanine okay yep, yeah, so Ihave.

You don't mix it in with the protein
, right, nope?

no, it's just separate in the bottle.
Um, I've got like 150 pounds ofpowder at my house right now.
It's like dope boy all overagain, hopefully I'll raid your
house.

I'll be my house.
Right now it's like dope boyall over again 2.0.
Hopefully they'll raid yourhouse and be like yeah, we got
him.
It's like, bro, this is justreworked.
Fucking white powder everywhere.
I'm like listen, it's fuckingcreatine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What is the benefit of havingthe?
What did you call it?
Beta alanine?
Yeah, the beta alanine.

It's honestly overlooked by a lot of stuff.
You'll see some companiessprinkle it in different stuff.
Um, the beta alanine is reallygood for muscle fatigue and
cramping so if you're over verysimilar um.
If you're overworking thatmuscle in your mid-workout,
you're getting lockouts andcramping and stuff like that.
That shit almost eliminates it,um, and it's only like three

(03:41):
grams which one is per saving orservings um.
So I actually have two blendsyou know.

I'm glad you said that, joey,
because that's been happening tome lately when I'm doing biceps
or triceps you take creatine atall no, I used to, but then I
saw some shit that they saidthat makes you lose your hair.
Nah, that's what.
That's what I heard.
I was like they said, yeah, myhairline was, you know, here and
I started taking creatine.
But this is my been long periodof time, I don't know if that's
accurate.
I was taking creatine and thenI got off of it.

(04:08):
After I saw that video my wifesaw me I was like my hair's my
livelihood.
I can't use it.

I'll fucking go to turkey collagen.

I was like I need something for hair
and nails I was like damn,that's a big one for me, so I
mean, I'll probably still go toturkey and get it done.
I mean, I'm already thinkingabout you know you're looking
like a vegeta.
But you know, yeah, I know Ihaven't, I haven't taken any
supplements since that, you knowlike I haven't.
But yeah, no, I'm looking forsomething.
The biggest thing is is withpre-workouts, the artificial, uh

(04:37):
, you know, the aspartame,potassium, dude, all those
fucking pre-workouts always haveit yeah, um, so one of the
things.

So with the creatine, uh, I didn't even know
about this other one and then Istarted making it so basically
what everybody's used to seeingis the creatine monohydrate yeah
that's the old school end.
All be all.
Type of creatine, um, morecommonly known for people.
Just like one of the sideeffects would be, uh, water
retention yeah, I noticed myselfgetting puffy, but I'm already

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puffy.
But the thing is with that isit's water retention in the
muscle, so it's not like you'regoing to get a fat belly or
something from it, it's justhydration in the muscle.
So it does expand it and makeit a little bit bigger.
Not necessarily good for women,because women hold water weight
different than men do.
So, um, I had a friend of mineand I'm literally at the

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nutrition shop by my house and Iwas training someone which I'm
also personal training now too.

so it's only been like three weeks
bro that's what I said with awhole new couple businesses.
Man always yeah, so.

So I hear the guy telling her oh yeah, you're on
monohydrate.
He's like we got new stuff now.
It's called HCL.

And I'm like, okay, I think I've
seen that Mental note.
You know Hydrochloride.

Go home.
I don't know what the exactbasically the exact meaning of
it is.
I'm going to mispronounce theshit out of that.

Yeah, because I saw it on this
transparent labs that they haveHCL with the creatine
monohydrate or something.
So the HCL.

creatine is a whole different strand.
I cannot pronounce that either.
I'm not even going to try.
Look it up HCL.

That's why they have the HCL.

I know how it works.
I sell it.
You can pronounce it and figureit out.

Yeah, exactly um but yeah, there's
only three ingredients in thereyeah, this, yeah, this only has
two actually.

So it's um, it's because it's stack is the
creatine ethyl yeah um, and thenthe beta alanine, and this one
too.
So this one would be what womenare using.
They they're using the HCLbecause creatine, as you know,
it helps recuperate the muscles,helps heal them faster.

It opens up the veins, right.
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's huge.
I felt stronger when I wastaking it.
That's one thing I did noticeand you should, yeah.
But now that I've been off ofit, I mean I do definitely feel
more fatigue at the gym and justthe amount of weight I mean I'm
still.
I feel, I still feel like I'mgetting stronger.
That might be just consistency,but I need to start taking does
it let you do more reps.
Is that what it?

does.
Yeah, I mean it's.
It's gonna give you moreendurance yeah for sure.
Yeah, um, you know there's somany, so like you're putting up
525, like you normally do 525,get the fuck out I'm actually
riding with that shit.
I was I going to say, but I'mgoing to tell the truth.
I was like.
His nickname is Bear.

Sean Febre & Manny Febr (07:24):
Exactly .
I'll tell you something I did345 one time and then I tried
365, and I was like damn, that'sa lot of weight, man.

So then this would help you 365.

Yeah, I know, I probably could have
done it with the career team,but now I'm just repping out 315
and I think that's that's good,how many reps do you get on 350
I got six, seven, holy shit.
How about you?

joey, I don't fuck with barbell bench too much.

Sean Febre & Manny Feb (07:48):
Honestly , I'm a dumbbell guy my
shoulders like feeling it, andyou know, I know I shouldn't,
but then it's just so mucheasier because with the
dumbbells I know it gets you cutand it gets you stronger with
both hands.
But the thing is is likefucking and it's like fucking.

Yeah, it's more, it's heavy, yeah, it's heavy a
lot of people don't know thatand I try to tell people that in
the gym they'll be like oh youknow, I can you know something
simple 225, right yeah peoplebenching that 225, you know,
divided by two, 110s 112 pounddumbbells fucking heavy man.
A lot of people can't eventouch 110 pound dumbbells.

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They could bench 225 all day.
You put a hundred pounddumbbell in their hand, they're
gonna bash their shit in theface yeah, you're isolating the
muscle.

That's , yeah, I mean it's just.
Whereas, as far as you're right, my help you're left, correct,
yeah yeah, there's no helping,it's fucking.

You don't lift it, you're gonna drop the shit.
Yeah, so, um, but yeah, sothat's what kind of got me to
the hcl.

That's one of them.
You had two, right, yeah, andthe monohydrate.

Okay, so these are both blended with the beta
alanine, but this one is goingto be the HCL, this guy is going
to be the monohydrate.

How much did it go for?

These are under 30 .
Under 30?
Yeah, the HCL is probably.
I haven doing all this shitmyself.
Quick example on some numbersabout 55 pounds of creatine
monohydrate is about $300.

Creatine HCL 55 pounds over $900 oh shit
yeah, so but that's for maleand female right, correct, yeah,
correct, yeah.
Well, no, the ACLs yeah, yeah,but primarily this is what the
women?

are jumping on now .
Yeah, they're getting away fromthe monohydrate because this is
a better strand.
It's fairly new, so that's whythere's not a lot of crazy
research on it that people canreally look into it.
And a lot of side said the onlything people like with the with

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holding water and stuff, butthe hcl uh, one of my buddies
said he took it.
He's one of those guys thatgets all hyped up, spends three
hundred dollars at thesupplement store goes hard as
fuck for like two months andthen he's like fucking drinking
you know, and thenso he told me about it.
He's like you got hcl and I'mlike I said, fuck man, you're
like the third person withinlike two weeks.
I'm like I have to buy it.
So I bought the hcl.
I'm waiting on that to come innext week so I can physically

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mix it okay and start selling it.
But I got the jugs in, I gotthe fucking labels, I got
everything done, waiting on thepowder.
Yeah, um, this powder's likethree weeks out.

I was like fuck but how's the process
go with actually being able tosell it to stores and not your
website, or to getting approvedor whatever?

Yeah, so there's a lot of loopholes with this shit
right now.
Basically, right now thecreatine stuff I have
carbohydrate powder that I'mdoing by myself as well, so
these are being mixed in house.
I have all the dietary labelson it.
I can sell it online, but if Iwanted to bring this to a store
like a GNC a.

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GNC or something like that.
These particular products hasto go through like an FDA
facility and and all the crazyshit.
So these ones, for now, I'mjust selling on the website.
They're very simple ingredients.
The the base product that I buythis from, like the creatine
and the beta alanine.
They're the number one ranked uhsupplement company out there

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and, honestly, that particularbrand for creatine is number one
seller on amazon oh so they'reby far top dog on amazon, but
overall just a huge company, um,and I can buy it from bulk from
them for pretty cheap andobviously flip it make some
money on it what are the fourpill bottles you got?
Um, so these ones are not forhuman consumption.

Oh wait, no, they're not for human
consumption.

So here's the loophole of these guys.

And do you have to stuff each pill
pellet?
No, okay.
I was about to say bro, that'sa lot of fun.
Yeah, I know so.

I'm not doing that , but no, I mean it's kind of
crazy dude, because you'd thinkthis looks so simple to do, but
I had to find a manufacturer forthe bottles.

I got to find the caps to match it the
label.

I got to get the label.
I got to get the company to doit.

Just like everything you probably did
the graphic design, everything,yeah, just all my shit.

Like you know how it is, you probably did the
graphic design, everything, yeah, just all my shit.
Like you know how it is, Idon't want to touch none of my
stuff.
Everything's 100% me.
Obviously, I have a printingcompany that does the stickers
for me, sizing them, seeingwhat's going to be right.

Are you?

placing the labels .
I'm placing the label on thebottles, so this is handmade.
Yeah, it's 100% me.
That's how you got to sell itright there, handmade with
nurturing care.
So when I worked for a medicalcompany, you guys know full time
.
So I mean I have Actually I'vebeen to your factory.
Did you go up?

there.
Yeah, remember Was it themedical company.

Oh, yeah, yeah, when you picked up the shirt.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Which is a putt putt your own
cafeteria inside the building,just for bro that place yeah,
that company's crazy, that's whythat's a, that's culture, right
?
I mean you want to have a goodculture.

It's family-owned.
I walked in there and I waslike how do I get a job?
He's a good guy bro, that placelooked.

I'm telling you, that place looked
like it was in 2029.
You know, that place was aheadof its time.
It's pretty cool, yeah, it'slike, but I mean and they're
cool.

They you know because I work crazy hours and
shit, but I've been there over13 years so they're super cool
with everything I do.
My boss knows what I do.
My owner buys fight t-shirtsoff me and shit, so they love it
.
He's a big supporter that'sawesome you know they appreciate
what I do for them.

Sean Febre & Manny Fe (13:21):
Obviously I've been there so long yeah
and it was clean.

Yeah, they're super clean.
Very, yeah, I've fuckingmedical bro there.
Yeah, we just redid that wholebuilding again.
No, but like that's what yousaw, yeah that was like a
two-year construction because webought there's a hundred
thousand square foot building.
We bought it for like 14 mil,had to put a new roof on it for
750 000,000.

Are you telling me that that was
already standing and you guysredid everything Uh-huh?
Holy shit, bro, full gut.
And then they bought it for 14mil, bro.
Imagine having that fuckingmuch money yeah go ahead and do
that and then fucking yeah,that's medical.

That's medical man .

These people are making hand over fist
man.

Yeah, it's crazy.
It's crazy there, but they payme good, I'm not going to hand
over.

Anyways , yeah, going back to.

Yeah.
So these guys, yeah, I don't, Idon't make the pills on them.

So some of them, like I have, but
you choose the one, you choosethe blend, though.
Correct yeah.

Yeah, yeah, so, though, correct, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
So this is clomid.
Um, these ones say not forhuman consumption, because this
is literally the loophole thateverybody can do.
What the hell is clomid?
Stride labs that I'm sponsoredwith 99 of their stuff says
laboratory use only, notrecommended for humans.
Blase, blase and you can sellit all day.
Um, does it kill you?

(14:42):
No, but it's.
It's because, fda shit.
Oh, it's the loophole.
Just like with window tint, Ican tint your car at five
percent tint for you to drive it.

It's illegal yeah, but I can legally
tint it.

I can sell you this.
If you put this in your mouth,that's on you.
I told you not to, but that'swhat it's for.
Yeah, so a lot, of, a lot ofthese other supplements that I
have to data fill.
We talked about that the lasttime.
Yeah, so I got that in pillform.
The Clomid this is for peoplewho are taking steroids and

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stuff.
This is like one of thosethings drop estrogen and whatnot
, get your receptors down andarimidex.
So this is also another.
What is arimidex?
P down, um and arimidex so thisis also another.

What is arimidex peptide situation?
It's not for human consumption.
What does?

it do allegedly, if a human consumed it.

What does it do?
What benefit does it?

have they're, gonna they're gonna get buff,
they're gonna get what about theblack one?
Yeah, this one right here umthere's fish oil.

From the sea.

I told you I'd make this all myself.
I take gel capsules and fuckingin the water.
He's catching the fish and he'sfishing the oil out of them.

These are smelling salts, oh shit bro,
do you have some in there?
Yeah, you want to try this one.

I've never done one you want to try it on right
now.

All you have to do is smell, it,
right yeah.

Yeah right, yeah, yeah, okay, baker mayfield does
it.
No, I'm dead ass bro, and hegets all hyped.
So these are the videos thatyou guys see a lot of me like
doing response videos on, um,tough wraps.
They're the ones that carry it.
I have them in a southernnutrition uh store near me now,
so I'm like I want to make saltstoo.
So, uh, these are fresh offchina china, china, china.
China.

These are post so just a quick, how
far do?

you hold it from your face.

I'm going to let you kind of, just,
you know, do one of these things.

No, no, no, but like don't do this.
Yeah, don't do that I don'twant you to die on air.

Okay.

So what you want to do is keep it low until you
start smelling it, and then youpick the tolerance.
So how?

close.
You want to close, so then openthe bottle, and then I just
smell the bottle.
I don't actually pick up thesalt.

So I got the box in the mail and it's got fucking
eight pounds of tape on it.
Chinese shit all over it.

Sean Febre & Manny Fe (16:57):
Beautiful place Beautiful.

China.
The guy's like here you go, youdumb American.

I'm like, yes, take my money.

But it was really the only place I could find to
make these for the price.

I'm excited about this.

To flip them and sell them.
So I'm in the kitchen and Itake a knife and just cut the
tape.

That doesn't sound very FDA approved.
What movie is that from?
These are sealed.
Limitless, limitless yeah.

So I cracked the tape open on it and immediately
smell it.
My wife is like 10 feet from meand she's like grabbing her
chest and she's like I feel likemy heart's racing or something
or like adrenaline.
She's like what is that smell?
And I was like oh shit.
So then I took everythingupstairs because I got 60
bottles when I did my firstorder just to try them but they

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were all concealed.

Or was it just powder, for oh?

they're sealed.
They're plastic sealed and youcan see on the inside of here
it's sealed too and it fucking.

Let me try it.
I'm gonna do a little, yeah, alittle yeah.
I've never done it before nowthey this ain't Padicoat, papi
don't.
No, no, I can start it, but Imean, I've seen Baker do it.
Just make sure you keep it low,sean.
Just keep it low, just keep itlow.

I can already smell it.
Yeah, I'm not, I'm going tostart crying.
I can smell that really bad, ohshit.

Oh shit bro.

Oh, oh shit bro.
Oh my god, does it clean youout bro?

that smells good.
It's killing me over here andI'm not even having it in my
face.
I'm starting to smell it now,bro.
It smells good.

It smells like fucking uh, uh it's ammonia
that's what it smells yeah it's,it's straight ammonia, like you
get knocked out on the footballfield and they crack that shit
and wake you up.
That's what that is.

God, you're going to get wrecked.

I know, bro, I don't see how I'm not even
smelling this stuff.
Playing with the devil Playingwith the devil.

I definitely smell it.
I definitely smell it fromright here, man.

Right here, man, right here.
It was already like.
It was like stinging my, mynose.
Can I buy that from you?
Yeah, yeah, I got them in thetruck.
I want just one bottle.
It's not.
Yeah, they're 20 bucks to getyou high it's to wake you up bro
, I've been, I got some guys.
I got some guys that buy it, um,just before they go on their
runs in the mornings and stuff,and uh, primarily what I like to
do is hit people when they'regonna go lift some heavy shit in
the gym.
Yeah, and I'm like you want totry some salts.
Well, I've never had thembefore.

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I'm like fucking perfect, let mego get my, let me get my camera
, let me get my damn dude that'sbecause they're primarily
they're just called smellingsalts, like if you went anywhere
, you see people doing deadliftcompetitions is there any salt
in there or no?
Yeah, it's, it's like a powderthat's in here.

That's what that, that noise is.
That's in it.
How long are they good for?

So this one's been my little hoe bag for like the
last two or three weeks, Openlike that, and it's this potent
still.
I just keep it in my gym bag inthe truck.
I mean I would say you get agood six months out of these.

So when we're seeing Baker and
Levante David run down thetunnel, and they're going like
this they're putting it in theirnose, they might have the
liquid ones.
No, they're not putting it intheir nose, they could have
liquid ones or something.

There's a lot of different forms from what I'm
aware of, but it's basically theshit that you see, like even on
movies and stuff they crack itin front of your nose and
they're like boop and they wakeup.

That's the shit in a bottle.

Yeah, I don't mind that, so for your 525 bench
right here.

Fucking yeah, I feel like playing
around a golf or something rightnow.
Oh jesus or you know like well,he sniffed it quite a bit over
there and that wasn't.
That was pretty close.

Yeah, I liked it yeah new buyers to my venom
nutrition.
You get 30 off on your firstpurchase.
So type in code venom with an e.

We don't, we don't do shit regular
over here venom with the e, Imean venom with the three, with
the three we do shit differentover here.
You need to come out with aline, too, that's led by no man
too, because that's a fuckingdope, also like venom led by no
man you see my shoes too now no,no, but I'm talking about for
the supplement.
That's a fucking good name toovenom.

(21:10):
It's called venom no, it's venomnutrition no, but I mean, I
like the lead by no man, like ifyou did, like some kind of
pre-workout and the pre-workoutyeah like the pre-workout called
.
You know it's venom nutrition,but the pre-workout is called
led by no man death by one youwere you were talking about this
, led by no man is the umbrella.
Yeah, venom is now venom yeah,since I had venom.

Designer with the shoes with the high-end, um
italian mid shoes.
I'm like why not do venomnutrition?
I looked it up, no one's got it, so I'm like okay, doing venom
nutrition okay start with thatgotcha all right, guys.

When we get back with happy hour
holidays, we'll continue withjoey lumpkin and talking a
little bit more about hisnutritional line that he just uh
started, and a lot more.
So make sure you like, commentand subscribe, and we love our
fans, so thank you for uh.
You know watching us andhearing us, we'll be right back.
Peace, don't do what the fuck.

(22:08):
It's not I know it's not a drugnigga, but this shit finally
woke me up what are you thinking, bro?

yeah, you're gonna start tearing up that one
actually hit?

yeah, because you just fucking you
open it up and all the fumes areright there and then you
fucking sniff it.
You ever done paint nigga.
Oh god, what are you thinking?
I just want to kill him on air.

I'm gonna blow your nose now yeah shit, dude,
oh shit dude.

Idiot that's on the podcast.
It's still recording.
Holy fuck, dude.
That is not what I wasexpecting.
What do you mean?
It wasn't what you expectedBecause.
I smelt it originally, yeah,but I know.
But the thing is that rightwhen you pop it up, all the
fumes go, yeah, move, yeah.
You ever open up fucking paintor something.
And it's right there becauseit's sealed.

You all.
Right, bud, I'm going to get up.

You all right.
Why don't you just wait asecond before you?
Get up that might be betterthan fucking what's the shit
that you put in your nose.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, bro.
Damn it, man, that is gross.

I don't like it.

Oh, you don't like it now, not what
I just smelled.
Oh, that's how it is, bro, whenyou start using drugs, and
we're back with the guy whosniffs salt for fun, sean Fabray
over here the resume haswritten 20 resumes since we were

(23:40):
off here.

He's good to go.

Do I need to put?
Not for human consumption.
I think you might have to putthat one for that one.
A warning.
Well, you're over 18, right?
I mean I got under 18.
No, no, I'm only 12.

Oh fuck, cut the air, cut it, I'm out.
Trump's going to get me.

Damn dude Joey.
So what's the big one?
That's got to be protein, right.

This is is the carbohydrate powder.
So dextrose, yeah.
Also another one of thosethings for the supplement guys
who are in there killing it highintensity workouts you get that
sugar.
Drop the shit right here.
That's what you need.

You need carbohydrate powder, bro,
so are people taking like allsix of these at once?

Right, they can be .
I mean not right before, I meanthe, the, the smaller bottles
are, like I said, those are like, uh, peptide, sarms style type
of things.
Um, the smelling salts.
Well, yeah, you didn't do a pr,but you decided you want to
sleep for fun and fuck you up alittle bit.

Hey, well, it woke me up, yeah um the
creatine, obviously.

So the way that I do everything is I mix the
creatine and the carbohydratepowder into my amino acids.

So carbohydrate powder is for it's
dextrose.
What's the benefit of it?

The benefit of it is fucking endurance, man,
endurance, focus, strength.

So it's like if you eat a bunch of
French fries, right yeah, itjust ups the carbs.

If I can get you in there and get you motivated,
get you moving, um, it's justright.
Right when you're almost out ofgas.
Yeah, you know, your body isjust to the extreme.

The carbohydrate powder pushes
through that shit joey, how longdo you usually?
How long is your workoutsession?
Uh, probably two hours, twohours.
You work out twice you week,don't you?

Oh, no, no, no, I actually just changed my split.
Actually, I'm always talkingshiz, I never take days off, but
I'm on a bigger cycle and I'mtrying to be.

When you say cycle, are you talking
about like on steroids, or yeah,oh, you're doing steroids.
I didn't fucking know.

How was I supposed to know I was going to say?

you look a lot bigger than you did
last time.

Yeah, I'm almost 200 pounds right now.
I was going to say your fuckingforearms are fucking huge man,
I can tell man.

So, do you take milk thistle?

Yes.

That's the detox, fucking liver right,
which I forgot to fucking bringthe bottle because I do
actually do milk thistle as well, gotcha.

But yeah, I'm on like a next 30, sorry, 30, 90
days.
I'd love to hit about 210, 215and then cut back a little bit,
keep the body fat low, but tryto walk around like 210.
Oh, in terms of weight, yeah,you don't drink at all, bro.

It's as strict as possible, right?

No, I mean not as strict as possible.

But do you drink at all?
No, no, I haven't had the tastefor it, honestly, um that's
good, because when you're takingall those supplements and then
you start doing alcohol, I meanalso, just fucks it up, it's a
waste.
I know it is.
Yeah, I'll get headaches andshit.

Yeah and honestly, like I got um modellos in the
fridge.

I love modellos beer that's what I
drink now.
That's my shit, but the vet gotme on him when I play golf with
he's like mod modelos, bro,yeah they're so smooth, yeah,
but I love like I don't, I don'treally go out, I don't have
time.
I don't know.
I mean, I drink at home, I haveit at the house.

I'll have like half a beer and all of a sudden
it starts tasting like two yeast, yeah, tasting and shit, and
I'm like I can't even fuck withthis or I just have water.
Yeah well, vodka water is agood, or vodka water, yeah dude
that's what I was drinking, that.

But then I got in trouble a little
bit, Cause it's just like youknow you have one and then
everybody's like still drinkingtheir Michelob Ultras or Bud
Light they're like they're likeon their fourth one, and you're
like well, I'm sipping thislittle shit.
And then you just go bing, bing, bing and you're like oh, I'm
really fucked up now, why is?

Manny naked in the back.
Freak it, let's go.

Freak, there's nobody behind you?
No, they're there, they'recoming, we're leading the pack,
we're going to the quad man.

Yeah, so this is what I'm physically touching
right now.
Okay, what I told you guys whenI came in, when I first wanted
to do this, my big thing wasobviously I need a manufacturer
to do supplements.
I'm actually going to shoutthese people out because the guy
was kind of a prick BL Labs outof Clearwater BLM it's called

(27:56):
BL Labs.

Black Live Labs.
No, I'm not going to.
I'm not going to.

So I called them up because they were local and
I'm like, oh, I can see thefucking facility check them out.
They do supplements.
Cool, put my info in.
If I can do.
It hits me back 2,000 unitsminimum per barcode per barcode.
Per barcode.
So if you got two different,four, five, six, seven, yeah.
So 14 K, 14 K at $9 a unitminimum.

(28:32):
Is that?
Is that fair?
It's fucking ludicrous.
Like cheap or expensive, nooverkill.
So what I did was the guy toldme 2000.
I was like you're smoking crackrocks, like.
He's like what are you lookingfor?
And I said I'm literallyputting my feet in the water
right now with supplements.
I know everything about them,but I I want to make my own,

(28:52):
like I'm trying to start thisthing up.
Well, how many you looking for?
I'm for I'm like I don't knowdude, 10 or 15 bottles.
Like I need to see if the shitsells, I want to taste it, I
want to make sure that I'm goingto use it, cause I'm not going
to promote shit if I'm not usingit.
So, um, the guy's like oh,thousand unit minimum.

(29:21):
I'm like cool kick rocks,that's better.

Oh wait, still too much.
Yeah, a thousand thousand unitsper each barcode.
I mean, it's that's he doesn'tneed that much.

That'd be 15 to 20 to 10 dollars, yeah.
But like, think about if yougot a thousand units or
something.
You're just getting it off theground.
What's the shelf life each one?
Yeah, what's?
What's the shelf you're talking?

about like fucking 49k yeah yeah, just
what is the shelf life on these, joey?
It's gotta be a lot right.
Yeah, I mean they're, they'repretty good with stuff.

I mean they're obviously as a supplement person
.
You're taking the shit untilyou run out of it.
You don't really let it sit.
No, I've even used the shitwhen it gets chunked up, because
it still mixes.

Yeah, problem is that you're keeping
it stored, so the shelf life hasto be over a couple years, I'm
assuming yeah, it's not, it'snot, yeah, it's just powders.

So and I put, um, I put the little, uh, yeah, I
think that thing is.

I'm always like fuck, these things
are annoying when I'm scoopingthem up and I'm like, but I
leave it in there, and then, assoon as one time, I took them
out on jack and I was like whatthe fuck happened and all the
shit locked up.

Yeah, I was like what the fuck happened it
absorbs moisture yeah, so likemy pills and stuff, I put the
cotton balls in there.
Yeah, like you would see fromthe store, they're sealed.
I shrink wrap, seal the tops ofthem.
Um, they have oxygen sensors inthose as well.
All my powders and stuff havethe oxygen centers.
I weigh everything out with myscales.

Sean Febre & Manny (30:33):
Everything's like exact, also sealed, also
shrink wrapped I mean, you'rebasically a drug dealer at this
point yes, 100, except I'm doingit more legal this time we're
not going to mexico, episode one.
Go back and watch that.

Yes um, but I'm taking my drug dealer skills and
we're putting it into the realworld this is how shit's made
legal drug dealer.

We're talking about medicines you ever
put a little bit more in therethan, uh, I mean it might have a
gram or two extra you know,hook up the homies, yeah, you
know.

So they cut that up.
Right before you repeat buyer,I'll give you a little bit more
of that beta dog.

Get some of that beta son um, but
yeah.

So uh, bl labs squash that shit.
Um called another place.
They wanted something crazy.
A lot of the other companiesit'll kind of tell you up front
like they need a certain minimum.

So it's all volume A lot of these
guys, a lot of it's volume.
So the more you buy, thecheaper it gets.

Correct.
But they want a minimum, whichthe minimum is crazy on some of
these.
Well, it makes sense for themto do a minimum, because it
wouldn't be worth their timecorrect and they want you to
show that.

A lot of this white label.
That's the thing that kills meis I know that it's it's white
label.
Well, if it's so, they'vealready got the shit.

It's already sitting there.
Why do you?
Why do I need to spend athousand minimum unit?
Don't you want to sell yourshit?
What if I do pop off?
Yeah and shit gets good, socool your loss.

Keep it moving um not really helping
the people trying to come up.
Yeah, dude, so it's killing medo you sign some kind of
agreement that states that if itdoes pop off, when it pops off,
when that you can't go to adifferent supplier or
manufacturer?
Nope, nope, so then you couldleave at whatever point it's I
can leave whatever I want andthat is why they have a minimum

(32:14):
so here's what I'm doing withthe new company.

I'm not going to shout them out because I don't
want to give anybody easy plugsfor this shit, because you guys
need to fucking work for this.
Yeah, I love helping people, Ilove supporting people, but it's
one of those things where, if Itell you all my secrets- you
ain't going to appreciate it.

Don't do it, don't do it.

Yeah, you're going to appreciate it, Like all my
shirts, all my designs.
You got to figure that shit out.
That's what I did.
That's the only way you'regoing to appreciate it.
Company, I found they're out ofGeorgia.

Oh, now you're telling them where to
find it.
Yeah, it's fine.
Look around Georgia.
Good luck.
Georgia's a big state.

Yeah, so reached out to them, did a conference
call with the CEO of the company, spoke to him about three
different times.
I had a lot of questions.
So I told the guys I need totalk to you, like I can't be
doing this email shit.

I hate that, you know, I hate that.

That's one thing about business man.

It's so easy to have literally a
10-minute conversation insteadof fucking 34 emails where.
I can get it done.
I tell that to people all thetime.

I got shit in my head.
I just need to get it off.
Yeah, just get it off, and youknow it already, so I just need
to know it.
But the thing is that in ourfucking generation.

Now, people don't want to do that
shit.
They'd rather, hey, text me.
It's like, okay, you want me totext you 60 fucking questions,
or do you?

just want me to go bing bing.
Three-day text conversation sohe was cool with it.
He let me fucking ride it out.
I talked to him, you know, ahandful of times and uh,
basically he told me at theprice point that I was looking
at this is a couple thousanddollars to say, hey, I'm gonna
work with you.
You can have up to 20 differentbarcodes.
It's white label.

(33:51):
You pick out of the I want tosay they have 150 different
supplements and I pick my 20 andthen I can have them design the
labels, I can do the labels orwhatever, just tell them what to
put on them if they do it.
And then now I have 20different barcodes from them
that I can sell anywhere.

(34:12):
I have a wholesale price fromthem on how much per unit then
uh, it depends on each product.
Each product is a very differentprice on the units but I can
buy average lower than ninedollars.
Yes, yeah, yeah yeah, but notonly that.
I could buy one at a time oh,there's no minimum.

Yeah, there's no.

Oh, that's, that's nice, yeah so when they hit me
with a couple thousand dollars,I'm like, well, come on, I mean,
I'm still a family man, Iworking Like I don't have money
handed to me.
So I'm like a couple Gs.
I'm like, nah, I don't reallyhave the money for that.
I want to do this.
I'll just stick with what I'mdoing right here until I get
that up.
So lady emails me back, hisassociate or like receptionist

(34:51):
yeah.
She hits me back and she's likelisten, he really likes you.
You guys spoke a handful oftimes.
Hit me with a price that Icould not refuse.
She's like if you sign with usin 24 hours, here's the price.
And I'm like, fucking, how do Isend you the money?

But that was a big thing on
persistence right there.
I mean, you see, never givingup on that because you know what
All these guys were saying hey,500 units, 1,000 units, 2,000
units.
And look not only that, butalso building rapport with your
potential business partners,because you guys are partners is
what it's going to be.
Yes, you're buying from him.
You're selling his product.

Yeah, we need to treat each other well.
We're working together now, butpersistence is a big key.
That's how I've gotteneverything in my life man.

Sean Febre & Manny F (35:37):
McDonald's man, the guy from Ray Kroc.
He says it's all aboutpersistence.

How does a?

guy who's 67 years old, own a
franchise that is in 127countries is worth over $20
billion Persistence and that'show the movie ended.

that must be so fucking nice to fucking have a
big account and just see thatnumber in your head just be like
.

I like that.
It's coming.
You know, if we, if we talknegative to ourselves, that
we're never going to see it.
That's what you put into theuniverse and it literally is
like that no, it really is.

I mean even this, like of course there's doubt,
like who do you think you are?
How do you think you sellsupplements and shit like that?
And in my head I'm like I'lltalk about yourself.

Yeah, just kind of like telling myself
, basically like you know,because there's always a side of
you.

You have self-doubt.
You throw yourself into this.
Who's gonna like it?
Who thinks that label?

is cool.
That needs to stop what youknow.

There's already the supplement on the market.
Why do you think yours is goingto be different?
And in my head, just like bysaying for for venom in general,
is just unique as anunderstatement, I've proven that
I've been doing this for threeyears now and all my shit's
different, all the way down tothe material of my clothing, is
high end.
No one's touching it same thingwith the supplements and you

(36:56):
pick it.

Yeah, because the shirt that you got
on is a heavier uh uh cotton.
Yep, the one that, uh, you hadbefore.
Bro, those shirts are awesome,I still.
I wore actually one of thehappy hour holidays ones that
you gave us on the podcast.
Yeah, yeah, that one is likefor, um, I don't know, I want to
call it more like sportsfitting.

Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, those are Bella Canvas.
I still want the.

Venom Nutrition.
If you got tank tops, because Ialways wear tank tops- Okay, if
you have them, dude, I'll buy acouple of them, yeah, I started
doing them.

That was another thing, too, I did with the
supplement brand, because I wentthrough the supplement brand.
So now I'm doing duffel bags,little backpacks, water bottles,
girls, shorts, t-shirts, thesupplements, everything.

Bikinis tampons, Not tampons.

Not tampons.
You don't see the brand, youpull a string.

You know what I mean.
I'm just making a joke.

But yeah, so I'm kind of in the mix.
I've already signed thecontract with him.
Basically, as you know me, I'mmaking all these fucking labels.
I don't want no one touching myshit, so I'm giving them my PDF
files of the labels, exactlyhow I want them.
Quick example I'm doing aprotein powder and it's called

(38:20):
um chocolate peanut butter.

I'm surprised you didn't show up.

That's my favorite protein.
I'm waiting on it.
That's I'm waiting on theapprovals.

That's my favorite protein.

I do I do the uh lean 40 or whatever it is the 40
lean.
Whatever I get the one of those, the venom nutrition peanut
butter.
Oh, I'll definitely do it.

100 man I was gonna talk to you
about that creatine because I,you know, even though I get
nervous about my hair, you know,but nah, you'll be fine.
No, I've never heard of thatshit.
No, I think my wife waseverything's genetics yeah, I
mean, that's what I feel, I meanI mean I got hair.

You know my dad's brother, my dad still has hair
too.
Yeah, your hair's got, but likeI said, I said I'm fucking
going to Turkey either way, andI'm fucking.

That's why I'm going for teeth, going
for hair, you're going to end upmissing a kidney, Cause you
know they do.

No, I told him don't put me on games.

I haven't seen the second one, man
, my wife, let me tell you this.

I just finished, is it?

good.
They ended the second season,when, for sure, with a fucking
third bro.
This pisses me off, becausedon't tell me, no, no, I'm not
saying anything.
All I'm saying is that thereshould have been more episodes.
I agree, because they ended itwith eight or seven or whatever
it was, and at the end I'm likethis can't be the last episode
and it was the last episode, butit said they're gonna do the

(39:31):
final season this year for itthere's a lot of fucking series.
They're serious that they fuckwhatever Fuck it is.
That they end is so fuckingannoying that I'm like not
landsman.

Huh, that one ended perfect.
I don't really have a lot oftime for TV, but I don't either,
but my wife had.

To Well, once we put down, oh yeah,
I know, but once we put downthe kids and all that shit,
washlands yeah, but once we putdown the kids, and all that shit
my wife.
She likes to have a show thatwe watch together, even though
I'm on the laptop working andshit yeah yeah, that's what I do
.
I mean, I'm on the laptopworking you know always working
you know I'm always trying toget some money, you know, yeah,
or I'm on reddit, you know, justlooking at a bunch of naked,

(40:09):
what do?
you mean I can't watch porn forfree anymore.

This is all allegedly.
This is all allegedly.
Uh, shout out to steve fantettiyeah, steve fantetti,
empowerment uh power athleticsand power athletics sports

(40:34):
agency.

our.
Keep it up, man.
If you got anybody fucking outthere that is going to be a
football player, whatever it is,hit them up, man.
Yeah, and we got a.
He has a book coming out in thenext six months that was
classic, which I can't tell youanything about.

What's it about?

I can't tell you anything about it
.
Well, since you asked oh yeah,but it's a good book Off the air
, it's a good book Off the air.
No, I still can't.
No, I don't.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but so these?

are currently live .
All the other ones.
I'm going to have 20 othersupplements greens, different
types of protein, pre-workoutamino acids.

What do you say, greens?
I protein pre-workout aminoacids.

I'm really interested on the pre-workout so
I have a sample of thepre-workout of the house
unscented or unflavored.

I'm fucking fucked up, man.
I still get that little smell.
Yeah, you still smell it.

Right, and I barely did it, so all of this
stuff, all of these areunflavored okay which I also did
for a reason because a lot ofthis shit, you want to be able
to mix it in something that youalready have.
Yeah, you don't want to havesix different things and one's
fucking blueberry muffin candyking.

I would rather.
I would rather have itunflavored.
Honestly, the unflavoreddoesn't even taste it into some
water and then just drink it I'mchugging it, yeah, so I just
I'd mix that stuff with theamino acids.

Um, I'm waiting on the amino acids to come in
Super close.
I just turned in my last labelsto them yesterday.
So once those go throughapproval, then we move forward
with they.
Also threw me in a $500 bonusof product at cost.
Oh nice, which will be.

So that's for experimental, so you
can.
Well, I mean, what I'm going todo is I'm going to get whatever
.

I can get two or three of each product.
And then I'm'm gonna set upfucking tables and shit at gyms
and stuff and say hey, here's myshit, bro.
Do the eos uh fucking um garlicroad?

no well, that one too, but the eos
over by 54 bro, that place, thatplace at between 9 and 12 my
brother-in-law goes there I goearly, I go 5 am.

Yeah, you know but fucking 9 to 12 yeah, mine in
the afternoon.

I go now like oh, I mean the after,
well, the afternoon yeah it, butfucking 9 to 12, yeah, mine in
the afternoon.

I go now like well , I mean the after, well the
afternoon, yeah it's fuckingslam.

But he goes at that time and he's like
bro, there's so many fuckingpeople would it make more sense
to go after five he's right, Imean literally after five.
Is is the problem?

everybody gets off .
I take a day off and hang outthere all day.
No for sure, man no, after 5 pm.

Yeah, you're already off of work at
that time.

Yeah, correct, yeah yeah, yeah, but I'm saying
like just kind of hit allaspects of it.
You know, I got a fucking bunchof cool ass people that I go to
the gym with and stuff.
I'll be like, hey, here's somesupplements and, honestly, like
some of these people Icommunicate with on a daily
basis, I know they'll do it forfree because that's just how
they are.

Yeah, um, you know, it's like a lot of
this is like fucking familyPlus your fighters.

Yeah.
So, speaking about fighters,Marquise Forrest, one of my MMA
fighters that I've been workingwith for a while.
I've been doing his t-shirtsthrough Led by no man.

And the chick also too right.

Yeah, stephanie, I haven't talked to her lately.
No, no, I don't know what she'sgot going on.
I reached out to her about somenew designs and stuff.
You know I'm on top of shit allthe time.
No response, so you ain't gottime for me.
I got time for you I get thatshit too man some people some
people, just like you knowthey're like yeah, let's do some
call text ghost, it's like allright, move on if somebody, if

(43:50):
someone, wants to write down alist of shit, like the people
that tell me they don't have anytime, send a fucking list to my
email, drop it in my dm.
I want to know why you don'thave time, because I'm going to
send you what I do every day andI'll smash your fucking list
100.
Oh yeah, you ain't workingharder than me, and if you are,
you still don't have an excuse,because I need you to fucking do
what you need to get done youknow where's a great place to

(44:14):
sell these supplements is um gymshows or, uh uh, fitness
competitions.
Yeah, yeah yeah, I'm gonna getthose in there.
Um, the stuff online.
Basically the way that that'sgonna work is they're a drop
ship company for me, so once allthe labels and shit get designs
, whenever you purchase itthrough the website, it's
basically gonna go from thewebsite.

(44:36):
They get the notification toship it out, they label it, they
process it, they move it andthen it it goes through my
website so it's almost likeamazon drop ship 100.

But you're also on amazon, I'm not
on amazon.
Oh bro, you need to get onamazon.

I gotta figure that out.

We got a buddy of ours that finally
tracked a million dollarsselling rocks in dirt.
I'm not even joking.
How crazy is that?

rocks and fucking rocks and dirt I mean girls are
selling feet pics for 500.

So there you go that makes more
sense, though.
No, 100 man.
When we get back, we'llcontinue our talk with joey
fucking.
Loving this talk, love the gym,feeling good about yourself,
clear mind.
Mind.
How I straighten myself out isfucking in the sauna, reflecting
on my thoughts.
Your thoughts are what createswho you're going to be.

(45:22):
We'll be right back.
All right, guys.
We're back to happy hourholidays and we were talking
about what were we talking about?
Fucking?
No, we finished on somethingthat had a point.

It was about the fights with the guy.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, joey,
something that had a point.
It was about the fights withthe guy.
Oh yeah, yeah, so I got on.
Joey's mind is still straight.

I didn't fuck with the salts today.
No, my boy Forrest.
He is going to be my first likefrontline runner for the brand
he fights in, like the next twomonths.
He's a pro fighter.
Five and one 155.

MMA.

Oh, so it's not bkfc, no, no, it's mma, so he's
got gloves, yeah, so, um, thedude's like a fucking silent
assassin which is very funny,which we've talked about before
like these fucking mma fightersare so calm, so chill, and he
gets in the cage and just fuckstraight murder those are the
guys you got to worry about.
The guys that are really quiet,really reserved.
Those are the guys that have alot of anger built yeah, and I
mean he's been um very respondlike my newest thing for this

(46:23):
year is like I put fucking 200into everything that I do.
I need people to match myenergy if I'm gonna put this
time into you and I'm gonnadesign shit for you and I'm
gonna help this is a barteringthing.
I'm not asking for money.
I support you, you support me.
I post something, you repost it, you post it.

(46:43):
I repost it Like let's helpeach other out.
I want everybody around me atthe top of the mountain.
I'm not one of those guys whereI'm like I want everything.
Fuck that helped me.
Yeah, if you're involved withme, you're coming with me.
I want fucking everybody uphere with me.
Um, so, and he's just one ofthose guys, so I'm like you're
gonna be on the brand.
So, um, we're getting his fightshorts right now made.

(47:04):
We're gonna have venomnutrition on the fight shorts
nice for his pay-per-view, umwhat I know man's been on it.

Are you doing the robe, the fighting
robe that they come out in, orno, he doesn't come out in a
robe.

I'll show you some videos of him.
Yeah, he's, he's prettygangster.
He comes out with like a maskand shit, damn shit.
Yeah, he's like a fucking, likeI said silent assassin.
Um, I'll show you guys somestuff on the side with him so
you look him up on instagramblack clover mma.

Um, dude, straight gangster how, how
much does that actually I meanintimidation wise, like I mean
how much does that actually Imean intimidation-wise, like I
mean, how much does that likecoming out and having like?

I don't know.

You know a facade or a persona Like
does that really like help?

Like for him.
Yeah, like, no, I'm justtalking about in general.

Yeah, in general, like when somebody
comes out, you know how they dotheir like entry.
Oh, Like, how much is thatreally like intimidation factor?
Do you think it does anything?
Well, he used to fight.
Yeah, it was yeah.

So for me.
I was one of those guys where Iwas quiet, one of the trainers
I used to work with.
He actually used to call me theJoker all the time, because I'd
be fucking super chill, butjust have the smile on my face
and every time you'd hit me I'dget more amped up, like I'm
fucking fucking.
I'm like hit me again, hit meagain and probably fucking child

(48:20):
trauma.
But reliving some fucking childtrauma I went through, but uh,
it was just one of those thingswhere it's not that I liked pain
, but in my head I'm like youcan't hurt me more than I've
hurt myself or I've been hurtbefore, so your fist can't do
shit to me.
You can't do what's been doneto me, but I can fucking wreck
your shit.

So then did you get into your
opponent's mind.

Yeah, I would say definitely with the eye contact
or how you come up to somebody,because if someone's just
looking at you and smiling andnot saying shit.

I mean I'm thinking, yo, this person
is fucking nuts.
Yeah, that's a lot of peoplethink you're fucking crazy.

Yeah, I mean that's a big thing, but you know
, nine times out of ten, theshit that you see online, the
one with the biggest mouth isthe one that's getting fucking
dropped.

That's what I feel like, and that's
about what happens all the time.
The guy always talks.

That's why the silent ones are just chilling
and they're smiling.
I see you in there.
I see you in there.

yeah, I mean, Conor made a lot of
money doing it.
Biggest Mouths also willprobably get the most
advertising dollars.

Oh, yeah, yeah, Anderson Silva.

Remember Anderson Silva, Just ducking
and dodging, taunting.
I mean that guy was literallymaking all the money before he
got his fucking leg broken.

Yeah.

Or what was it?

Yeah, it was his leg.
Yeah, it was like his fuckingshin bone or something.

Yeah, or something like that, and also
he got knocked out when he wasjust doing this and then going.
Uh.

I mean one day those guys fuck around and find
out, you know.
And then after that you know alot of those guys they get they
find the button is what it'scalled, and after that they got
a soft chin or got a button andeverybody knows where it's at
why did you stop?
Fighting Um.

I got diagnosed with Crohn's disease
disease that means right towardthe end of fighting well.

So when you're amateur, nobody helps you.
You don't get money for shit.
No one's paying for nothing.
Um, you know making.
I don't know was I makingprobably 12 bucks an hour at the
time, maybe somewhere in?
There 12 bucks an hour.
I gotta pay for rent.
I gotta pay for my car.
I'd be quitting I was engagedat the time.
I'm paying 100 and somethingdollars a month to a training

(50:18):
school.
Gloves are 80 90 bucks, all thepads going to the fighting
event it costs money.
The nutrition that you need.
I mean, it was ludicrous and itgot to the point where when I
got sick my insurance at mycompany was shit.

So I got hit with thousands and
thousands of dollars in dollarsin previous company, I'm
assuming, yeah, yeah, not theone that you're currently,
because that one is no that one.

My insurance is free through them.
Yeah, yeah, um, but yeah, itwas just one of those things
where I got super sick and triedto recover from it and tried to
get back into it.
But it was just at the pointwhere, as soon as I did get back
into it, I got in a motorcycleaccident, broke my ankle, broke
my fibula, fractured this wrist,broke this hand.

(51:04):
Lucky, if I didn't have ahelmet on, I'd be dead.
I wrecked it at like 70.

Did you crash into somebody.

No Street racing.

Those things are always the most
fucking dangerous.
I had a crotch rocket.
You know I was when I wasfighting.

I was fighting 135 , so I was little.
So I'm on a 600.
Fucking uh, kawasaki zx6rlowered, going 200.
The problem was literally theweekend before I raced this
mustang at about 140 miles anhour.
He started pulling away from me.
I was pissed.
I'm on a street bike, thisfucking Mustang's beating me.

(51:39):
So the next weekend we loweredmy bike and we did some wire
swap thing that was supposed toincrease the horsepower, some
bullshit thing that you had todo.
The problem with lowering it onthese on the Kawasaki is the
forks are tapered.
It went from like a 45millimeter to a 43 millimeter
where I dropped the handle at,so the handle could not go as

(52:01):
tight as it should have.
We went back out on the roadthe following weekend to go race
off of Gandy and 4th.
We got girls at dispatch ineach county, checked them, made
sure the roads were clear.
It's 2 o'clock in the morning.

That's crazy.
Gandy Stolipop yeah.

That's where we used to race at right off 4th
Street.
Get on to Howard Franklin, hitHoward Franklin, do a couple
runs because of the concrete sothe tires don't spin.
And I literally pulled outfirst gear, throttled it a
little bit of a power wheelietiny bit off the ground.
When I pulled the clutch to hitsecond, the tire touched.

(52:38):
It wasn't straight so the bikeforced itself straight and the
grip snapped off the fork andthen threw my hand into the gas
tank, broke it immediately.
So I went to a tank, slap, tank, slap on a crotch.
Rockets, fucking violence theycatch on fire.
No, um, after my hand hit, Itried to reach back for the
handle.
Couldn't find it because itfucking broke.

(52:58):
It was gone.
So, tank, slap one hand, kindof looking around like what the
fuck do I do?
Throttle into it to get out ofit, out of the slapping,
throttle into it.
Got worse.
Try to give it breaks.
Got worse.
I'm like all right, I got tojump off the bike.
I'm doing 65, 70 miles an anhour, praying whoever's behind

(53:22):
me sees what the fuck is goingon.
Luckily enough, um, I dove offthe bike into the street because
on the left side there wasgrass.
But like it literally felt likeit took 15 minutes to crash.
Because I'm going through allthese things on what to do,
everything slows down,everything slowed down and I
remember wanting to jump intothe grass because I feel like
that would have been safer.
But every so often I would seethose little reflectors passing

(53:45):
me, the little steel sticks withthe reflectors.
So I'm like it's 50 50 whether Iget cut in half by a fucking
steel post or I land in thegrass with no harm you had a
helmet yeah also dove into thestreet um initial impact hit me
in the back of the head, put ahole in the fucking helmet Like
you could literally put a cup ofcoffee in it, for how hard it

(54:05):
hit in the back.

So you're dead If it wasn't for the
hundred percent.

My visor was completely scraped through from
here all the way across the facemask and ripped one of the
vents off.
When I pulled the visor up, itsnapped in half because of how
road rash it was.
So I literally sat up this hand.
I barely could move, so I usedthis hand, which didn't know it
was completely broken in half,my scaphoid bone that operates

(54:29):
my thumb.
Reached in my jacket, grabbedmy phone, called my boy.
I'm like yo, I crashed comeback.
You didn't call 9-1-1 no,fucking, I don't know one,
because I didn't want them tocome.

Yeah, because then you're street
racing and you get a ticketexactly so cops came.

They're freaking out.
What other cars involved?
Yeah, they're like oh, gettingthe ambulance.
I'm like no, I'm good.
My homeboy's taking me calledmy friend tiffany because she
worked at saint joseph's.
I'm like hey, where are you at,what floor are you on?
And she's like I'm in.
Er, I'm like perfect, I'mcoming right now, what do you
mean?
And I'm like I fucking wreckedmy bike.
She's crying, freaking out, youknow.
And I'm like it's okay, russ istaking me got any scars huh yeah

(55:05):
, I got a that one in here fromthe when I put the screw in my
hand oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, holyshit so I had to.
Um, well, basically when I wentin there, this one hurt.
I didn't, this one was fine, sothis one hurt.
And my leg hurt because when Itried to stand up when the cops
came, I fell, so I couldn't putweight on this leg.
I'm like all right, something'sbroke.

(55:26):
I can't put weight on here, soI get wheelchaired into the
hospital.
X-ray this fibula fracturedreally bad, basically all the
way through Fractured this wristand one of the bones in my hand
, which is why I couldn't closeit.
You know, get some vicodins, Ican get my x-rays done.
Call my boy.

(55:46):
Hey, you got my bike.
Yeah, I took it down to theshop.
Whatever, we're good, come getit whenever you need it.
How was the bike?

uh, it was okay.

I mean it's it initially fucked up than the
bike, yeah yeah, no, the dudetold me he fucking started it
and kind of got it onto thetrailer to take it back to the
shop.
So a little bit of road rashand shit Cause when I, when I
fell, it hit and then it flippedand then landed on the other
side and just slid but I hadframe sliders on the frame
sliders saved the fucking motorand the crank case from getting

(56:14):
destroyed, but left the hospitalthat night.
Next day can't move this handat all, can't close it.
Don't know what the fuck iswrong with it.
Go back to the hospital again,x-ray this one.
They're like, yeah, that bone'scompletely broken half.
You need to put a screw in itbecause it won't heal.
It's a scaphoid bone, blase,blase.
So screwing this guy.

(56:36):
I'm like, yeah, I'm notfighting anymore.
Damn those fucking motorcycles.

And then you sold your bike, I'm
assuming and you haven't riddena motorcycle since?

um, I got back on that bike after I healed man.
I had to get over that fuckinglike because I still want
another one.
But once you lose respect for abike, that's when it teaches
you respect, and I fucking saythat for anybody.
You lose respect for a bike, itwill's.
When it teaches you respect,and I fucking say that for
anybody.
You lose respect for a bike, itwill fucking teach you.
It's one of those things.
You just got to be supercareful and know that,
especially in Florida,everybody's trying to kill you.

(57:06):
Bunch of old drivers yeah, veryold drivers Super dangerous,
but at this point.

It had nothing to do with anybody else
on the road other than yourself.
Yeah, with anybody else on theroad, correct?

Yeah, I fucked up, which is why it made me kind of
get back on the bike too, causeI'm like, I'm the one that did
this.
I need to get back on the horse, basically, and fucking just
tell myself, hey, this is okay.
You fucked up.
Respect the bike, don't gostreet racing, don't lower the
shit yourself, have aprofessionally done.

Now I'm actually.
Have you been on a motorcycle?
Um, I've been in the 170s, holyshit on a bike.
How does that feel?
Does it just feel like, uh, howlow do you have?
To be like, let's say, almostlifeless in a sense like you're
going that fast so are you low,like my brother asked?

yeah, you're tough so you're just yeah, you're
full tucked behind thewindshield.
You know my rpms are at 14 000rpms.
The wind is pushing the fuckingright.
Oh, if you stuck your head upand rip your head off, I mean
you're, you're full tucked at170.
You're fucking.
You stick your head up.
You're gonna get fucking pulledoff the bike like a parachute
what?

what's the point of doing it?
Then see how fast you can go.

I like it.
Speedo goes to 180.
Let's see this motherfucker.
I had a lexus rc 350 and I uh Ihit up one of my on the v8?
Uh, no, it was a v6?

uh, but it was all mechanical, so it
wasn't turbo charged orsupercharged or anything yeah,
yeah uh, but it had 356horsepower and I hit up my cop
buddy and I'm like, hey man,when are cops not on the road?
And he goes 7 am and 7 pmBecause that's when the shift
changed, that's when the shiftchanged.
So I was like all I want to dois I want to max it out Sober.

(58:51):
I want to max it out, I want togo as fast as I can and that's
what I did.
So then I put it on uh, theveterans from dale mabry.
You know, when you're goingsouthbound on dale mabry and you
get onto the veterans andthere's that, you know that
entire road before you get ontothe actual veterans and I, I hit
like 125.

(59:11):
Yeah and at 125.
I was fucking nervous, bro.
Yeah, I was like as soon as Ihit that number I'm like yep,
nope, apply the brakes.
So going 170 on a motorcycle.

Yeah, fastest I've been in a car is like 150s in a
car, that's even faster andthat was me driving it.
I was fucking pushing the carto see where it would go,
because I took the rev limiteroff it when we programmed the
car.
Where the fuck did you?

could probably do it on 52 right now
because, like probably 10, 12years ago, where the veterans is
54, like right bro, there'sstop.
So you know where?

well, didn't know that out there's all cow
pastures.
Starkey ranch didn't exist, no,so it was literally fucking cow
pastures.
There was a public's out thereand like a target right by that
um we're a little road uh no,not a little road.
It's past that.
It was way past.
It was basically by the almostus 19 where you get on, uh, the

(01:00:08):
expressway and there was likethat target right there and like
a mcdonald's and shit yeah thetarget's gone, the mcdonald's is
still there, I think but thatwas literally the only thing
that was out there before yougot on the expressway about
hooters, yeah yep, so that'swhere you should street race all
the time going from up and downrichie or yeah, coming from
newport, richie going towardsgoing there we'd get on the

(01:00:28):
expressway, cover the plates,shoot some shit back and forth
on there and come out turns yes,yeah.
So I mean you're I took a curveat like 120 but because you're
probably hitting the apex andthen going out to the outside of
the road.
Yeah, I mean, that was thefastest I ever did.

Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:00:43):
It was like 150 something well, what
kind of car was it?

Joey Lumpkin (01:00:46):
um, I had a uh, a lot of people don't remember
these, but they were an srt4 oh,hell yeah the dodge srt4, our
buddy super no, no dodge.
Yeah, it was basically thedodge neon.
Yeah, yeah, the the uh freakinguh, subaru was the sti, yeah.
Adrian had the srt4, yeah, andthose things went fast as fuck.

(01:01:07):
Uh-huh, I had mine.
I was on race gas cams, 50 trimturbo that's an inline.

He had an acr.
Yeah, the acr.
Yeah, yeah, srt4.
That's just a suspensionpackage.
They put on those.
It's an, but they're still fast.
It's an inline four, isn't it?

I mean it's a straight four, but it's still
front-wheel drive Damn.

you went 150 in that.

Yeah, and, by the way, that car made over 400
horsepower, how?
And it weighed 2,650 poundswith me in it.
That 50 pounds with me in it.
It's light, because I did arear seat delete in it.
I gutted the trunk.
I used to race it like I hadfull meth injection in it.
It was fucking nasty, that carwas fast, you have no, no, no,
no.
Meth injection, that's crazy.

You don't see those anymore they're
so rare.
They I have destroyed actuallyseen one on the road since I was
in high school, yeah I'd loveto get another one.
Yeah, just the feeling of thatthey were really dope looking
and and like the front of them.
You know how they had the.

You know what it was it was Fast and Furious.

That made that car popular.
No it wasn't, there was neveron.

Fast and Furious or no no Fuck bro, it wasn't on
any.

Need for Speed.
The video game made that carpopular.

Yeah, I don't know .
They were just one of thosethings where it was like you
could make close to 500horsepower on a stock motor.
That to me is wild bro.
Yeah, it was fun.

Yeah, I know, I mean my buddy.
He loved cars and he says theSTI WRXs were the ones that
always raced them, because thatwas supposed to be the badass
four banger.

And they were all wheel drive.

Yeah, they were all wheel drive, so I
mean it was always.
When I was in high school itwas the STR and the.
Subarus that were alwaysfucking racing each other.

Yeah, yeah.

Who's got the faster?
You remember the Golf?
Oh yeah, the Golf.

Golf R's Volkswagen Golf.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, but that wasn't it.
They were called somethingdifferent.

Wasn't it called a Golf GTI, gti, they were called
there the gti's, those are fastas fuck.

Well, joey man, we really appreciate
you coming on again, man.

Yeah, telling some good fucking stories, man
shooting the shit yeah, man, Ilove it, man, always.

Um, do you want to tell the audience
anything as far?

as like four minutes.
I mean we still got some time,yeah, yeah, I mean you know plug
venom nutrition.

Yeah, yeah, so how they can find it?

everything is through, led by no man.
Um, just like everything else.
Is that's kind of the like wesaid?
the umbrella of everything thatI'm doing.
I mean, go through thecollaborations, you'll see
everything broken down.
I got women's clothes.
Now I have, um, these chucktaylor style shoes.
I got these in cheetah printszebra, black, fucking lime green

(01:03:37):
, all kinds of crazy colors.
Um, the oversized teas.
I got venom nutrition on there,which will have about another
20 or 30 supplements here in thenext 30 days.
Awesome, those are going to golive here pretty soon, just like
I said, waiting on the approvalfor the labels.
But uh, but yeah, I mean theoverall goal.
Know, just to kind of put itinto the atmosphere, my dream

(01:04:00):
with all this is to have astorefront, but Venom Warehouse.
You walk in, you got all myclothing, you have all my
supplements, walk through thestore gym, I like a whole
fucking setup and you know whatwe haven't shouted out your boy
at emphasis tattoo either yet.
Yeah, so.

(01:04:20):
So, by the way, with emphasis,you know, since I see my boy
fucking once a month, my once amonth payment with him they
actually just opened abarbershop.

Oh yeah, I saw that.

I did see that so now you get tattooed at a fade
in the same day.

And if you want to be in the same
store, no shit.

Long story short.
You know, davi, he was puttinghis hands in fucking everything
Without saying too much.
He tried to basically buy ahuge company out here in Tampa
that cuts hair, had the moneyfor it.
Threw it down.
Fucking, put your money whereyour mouth was.
Let's run this shit.
Dude backed out on him oh thatsucks.
So he said bet, got the back ofthe shop.

(01:05:05):
We're gonna have a fuckingbarber shop in the shop now.
Fuck yeah.
So now we got Emphasis Barbers.

Damn dude, that is awesome man.
Dobby's always making moves.
We love Dobby man check out hispodcast episodes that he's been
on twice on happy hour holidaysactually.
Yeah, yeah, you fucking killedit.

Yeah, you check them out.
Emphasis tattoo on instagram meat led by no man on instagram.
Venom nutrition on instagram.
Youtube's led by no man.
Um, we're just trying to go onthe map, trying to put that shit
everywhere that's it I have acollection for you guys on there
too, so whenever you're readyto do shirts?

yes, we can link up the websites and
shit we gotta figure that outyeah, yeah so I know, I mean
literally, if you have a gym andyou're looking for somebody to
come in and put out some goodproducts, fucking hit up, joe
yeah, facts, he's got it manvenom, fucking nutrition.
I'll be wearing that tank toppretty soon at the gym.

when I go there, you need a bag too.

I haven't done the bag yet.
I'm just like water bottle,fucking phone.

You got to start carrying the straps and the
wraps and bringing the drugs inthere with you.

I like those colors, though it looks
kind of like Florida Gatorcolors.

It's not Florida.

Gators bitch.

It looks like happy hour holidays.
That's orange.

No, that's fucking yellow bitch.

You have orange glasses on, give me these
glasses.
Let me see the glasses realquick.

Sean Febre & Manny Febr (01:06:29):
Where's the fucking orange?
That's orange?
Bro.

Obviously yellow.
No more smelling salts for you.

Be careful out there, kids.
If you've learned anythingtoday smelling salts for you.
No more smelling salts for you.
Be careful out there, kids.
If you've learned anythingtoday smelling salts might make
you colorblind if you abuse it.

There's no way you think that's?
Yellow.

That is orange.
You want to do a poll, we needto do a poll.

Yeah, let's do a poll.

What color is venom?
That is orange.

I get here to talk right now because this is
fucking ridiculous.

That is orange I get.

I get here to talk right now, because this is
fucking, that is orange so,anyways, if you really think
that's orange, you probably havea mental problem.

Uh, that is definitely yellow and
blue and uh, you can see itright there on the front venom,
nutrition, happy hour, holidays,love you guys.
Keep listening, keep watching.
We're gonna keep going we out.

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