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Sean Febre & Manny Febr (00:00):
Welcome
to Happy Hour Holidays, where
we cheers to entrepreneurship,life stories and business.
Every day you wake up, you gotto do something better or get
uncomfortable to make yourselfbetter and fulfill your dreams.
Don't just coast on a boatriding the same line.
Don't be straight like a string.
(00:21):
You got to have some jaggededges.
Don't be straight, like astring Shout out Rick Deaton for
that one, rick Deaton, on thatone.
Chris Walters (00:26):
boy, be straight
like a string.
You gotta have some jaggededges, don't be straight like a
string.
Sean Febre & Manny Fe (00:28):
Sometimes
you gotta peel the skin back,
let the head show.
Okay, I'm your host everysingle week.
Manny fresh, we got the resume,sean for breakos, and in studio
today we got our all-timefavorite friend of ours.
Chris Walters (00:42):
Yeah, it's been
actually a minute it's been a
minute.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (00:45):
We got
mr christopher walters in here.
He owns tango brew that's rightand it's a coffee and wine and
wine.
Yeah, so it's it's prettyunique and it's uh really cool.
He brought us a bottle, uh,mario campus and it's a mall
back which is argentinian and hewas an old soccer player back
in man.
I can't believe I can'tremember him because usually I'm
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really good, but it's a greatbottle and Malbec is a really
full body wine.
It's delicious.
Chris Walters (01:12):
I always like it.
Let's show them right here.
This is it.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:16):
You
got to let a second for the
camera to adjust Boom.
Chris Walters (01:21):
And then we got
it.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:25):
So,
Chris man, and then we got it so
chris man really appreciate youcoming on, man.
It's been a minute, and whydon't you tell them how you know
who know us?
Chris Walters (01:30):
oh gosh.
Well, what we uh, we grew uptogether was the seventh grade
that?
Yeah, it was.
I think we.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:35):
Yeah,
I don't think it was yeah, we
moved well, we moved over.
I know it was the seventh, Ithink eighth grade was my first
year at walker, so that was whenI moved over to, uh, the odessa
area.
Then my parents decided tobuild a house, little to know
that your dad was big time intorenovations.
And he was.
Was he a contractor?
yeah, yeah, he's a residentialcontractor, so he was doing it
all the time and I rememberseeing him all the time, you
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know, coming home, both your momand your dad.
They both worked hard as hellyeah, I know that man because I
mean that shit isn't easy, butthey I've seen some of his work
on um on facebook and he stilldoes a great job on yeah, he's a
little story about your dad.
Chris Walters (02:11):
He's a he's an
interesting fella.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (02:13):
I mean
, like when you closed your
first deal, yeah, what did normsay to you the best thing ever,
I'm in there, I walk in, firstdeal, first deal ever I got all.
I'm trying to be professional.
I looked apart, you know, Ilook really like, hey, I'm put
together and then all of asudden, hey, manny, hey, you
smoke pot with my son and allthe ladies look at me so I
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quickly transition and uh, youknow it would change it out, but
that was norm for you, that wasthe character who norm was man.
He always called you out, so youhad to be ready yeah, he's
still.
Chris Walters (02:52):
He's still the
same guy.
I know, like, uh, when, youknow, when uh, we're working on
the shop and uh he says, oh, Iwant to see what it looks like.
And finally he rolls up thereand it's not open yet, but like
people are just passing by andhe just like stops one of them,
like you know, just uh, cold.
And they're like hey, andthey're like hey, who are you?
Oh, um, would you go here?
And they're like it's not openyet.
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But I mean, would you go?
And I guess the person was likeno, like yeah, I mean, but it's
not open yet.
He's like, but would you go?
And she's finally like, yeah,I'd go, yeah, sure, he's sure.
He's like, oh good, it's myson's shop.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (03:25):
And
I'm like so he tells me this
story.
Chris Walters (03:27):
I'm like, dad,
you can't, just you know, cold
approach people like that.
And just you know he's like whynot, why not?
I'm like, oh God, he hasn'tchanged.
He hasn't changed one bit.
But you, and my first job, doyou?
Sean Febre & Manny Feb (03:43):
remember
that?
Yeah, what was it?
It was Albertsons.
Chris Walters (03:45):
Albertsons no, it
was Burger King.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (03:47):
Oh no,
it was Burger King.
That's right, yeah, yeah.
Chris Walters (03:49):
You got me onto
that.
Yeah, you're like, come andwork at Burger King with me and
one memory I have of you is like10 o'clock at night.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (04:01):
And
you remember that red Firebird
that I had?
Chris Walters (04:02):
yeah, like I
don't know.
You got the keys from me andthen you know I was in the
drive-thru window bored as hellor whatever.
And then I just see you goingin the drive-thru.
I'm like that's my car.
And then two seconds later, andso he was doing donuts in the
in the drive through and I don'tknow if you're trying to get
like the times down because youwere times like by by how many,
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you know you had to be at acertain time, so so, like just
it looked like we're faster.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (04:29):
He was
just like stop in there and go
and stop in there and go andstop in there.
Chris Walters (04:32):
I'm like what are
you doing?
He's like I get my times down.
I got to get my times down, sohe was just like doing donuts
with my car and I'm like I don'tknow where you found the keys
or what but man, that didn'tlast too long I was there for
like no, I was there for liketwo months and I can't do this
because you know those times.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (04:48):
Those
times are important when you're
working in fast food, becausethe managers hold the entire
shift for a sponsor, yeah, Iremember our manager too.
Chris Walters (04:54):
What was her name
?
Like, something like that.
I remember her, but yeah, yeah,that was, that was an
experience.
I don't know, I don't see.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (05:03):
No, I
don't see it.
No, yeah, it was maybe Alex'ssister, but there was like quite
a few because they had likedifferent.
They always had differentmanagers, because even at
McDonald's there was like youknow there's a morning or night,
but yeah, no that I workedthere for man, it was like
almost open to close $5.50 anhour.
Yeah, and I saved up all mymoney to be able to get my car.
So a lot of times wheneverybody else waited until like
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junior or senior year to gettheir car, I fucking worked at
McDonald's all summer and I didopen the clothes making $5.50.
And I saved up, like, I think,$1,700 so I could buy my first
car.
My dad was nice enough to matchme.
He was like whatever you make,I'll match it.
You buy yourself a car.
Chris Walters (05:44):
And then I got a
three thousand dollar honda
accord 1994.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (05:48):
And
then I fucking, uh, I got the,
the muffler tip the rim, yeah,and all that shit.
I was like oh my god, I looklike a gangbanger.
Well, you know, fast andfurious had just came out you
wanted to be vin diesel, but youknow I can't believe we worked
with man.
I shouldn't have been working Iremember, you know, fast and
Furious had just came out.
Chris Walters (06:06):
You wanted to be
Vin Diesel.
I can't believe we worked, man.
I shouldn't have been working.
I remember we were 14 years oldyeah, we didn't freaking care.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (06:14):
No 15,
15.
No, at that time 14 wasSomething like that, oh shit.
Chris Walters (06:18):
Yeah, because I
remember bringing this girl like
her onion rings.
You know, because sometimes youto like park the car because we
were like behind or whatever soand then we had to run them out
, and then sometimes I didn'tcare, I'm just like fries, and
then inevitably some like onionrings would have gotten in there
.
And there's this old lady who'sbeing like um, I didn't order
onion rings and there's a lot ofonion rings in here and I'm
like I didn't want to deal withthem.
(06:39):
Oh yeah, that's what new thingwe're doing.
And she, she's like you'recombining that.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, we'recombining it, it's free to try
it.
We're doing onion rings andFrench fries.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (06:48):
It's a
new thing we're trying.
Let me know how you know leavea review.
Chris Walters (06:52):
And she was like,
oh okay.
But she didn't want to arguewith me, because you know what
you're going to say so, I'm likeoh whatever, and I'm like man,
I did some crazy stuff.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (07:01):
No,
actually that was really
brilliant.
Yeah, you sold a product theydidn't even offer.
Chris Walters (07:06):
Exactly, exactly.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (07:08):
I'm
like, yeah, what's up dog?
How come you guys don't havethat?
She's like I've been cominghere since 1952.
Exactly, I've never gotten anyreason.
Chris Walters (07:17):
Back in my day I
asked for that.
They didn't even give it to me.
I remember Boston Market was abig thing back then too, I love
Boston.
Market.
I remember some of the peoplethat went to Sickles.
I don't know if this was trueor not.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (07:30):
He's a
fellow Gryffiner, by the way.
Yeah, fellow Gryffiner, we justhave one 06, baby 07.
07.
Chris Walters (07:36):
Yeah, but I
remember a couple of friends of
ours.
They were working at BostonMarket and they were like
telling us it sounds like it'dbe a story, but they were
telling us how they used to likehunt because there was a bunch
of country people in the sicklesand they said that they would
get the deer meat and then putit in with the Boston Market
stuff.
I'm like that can't be.
There's no, but they're talkingso much shit.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (07:55):
Why
would you do that?
Anyway, give away free.
Chris Walters (07:58):
It's like deer
meat is so expensive, that's not
feasible?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (08:09):
That
that's not.
That's not feasible.
You know.
That's not a sustainable profit.
Chris Walters (08:11):
They just wanted
to see if people would notice
exactly, but yeah, so, yeah,that's how we met, and um, then
you guys eventually moved rightyeah, we did we moved uh closer
to walker, but remember weplayed a lot of football.
Out on the street.
Remember we used to do thetwo-hand touch.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (08:28):
It
didn't turn into that one little
strip.
Chris Walters (08:30):
You know the
strip of grass Tackle in the
grass, it's just that littlestrip right there.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (08:35):
And
then we had Ryan Firecrouch for.
Chris Walters (08:38):
Tachi.
I wonder what happened to him.
Sean Febre & Manny Febr (08:42):
Bradley
, bradley Sharp.
Oh yeah, he lived right next toyou.
Oh, what happened to him.
Chris Walters (08:43):
I remember and
then I don't know, bradley, uh,
bradley sharp, oh yeah.
Well, he lived right next, ohyeah.
And then we had a who wassomeone a street over?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (08:53):
oh,
game mike gabe.
Yeah, you guys played guitarbecause didn't go.
Yeah, yeah, he played the drumsI made the mistake of teaching
him guitar.
Chris Walters (09:00):
And then he like
kind of like well, I don't need
to play drums anymore, so he didhis own thing.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (09:04):
Oh,
really that was my mistake.
Chris Walters (09:05):
Yeah, that's.
That's a business move rightthere don't, don't ever teach
anyone that what you know,because they'll freaking, leave
you know, but yeah, he, he waslike, uh, he, you know, was like
oh, I don't want to play thedrum.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (09:18):
A lot
of punk rock like green day, all
day, all that.
Yeah, I know, but I rememberhis favorite.
What was his name?
I remember your fighter, thatwas one of your favorites dude
yeah, I, I love you bring aguitar in today, no damn it are
you still playing?
Chris Walters (09:34):
I still play a
little bit occasionally, but you
know to try to find the timewith everything else.
That's.
That's one of the things my dadtells me he's like you know, do
you do?
What do you do for fun?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (09:43):
I'm
like make money, I guess, and
he's like you just can't do thatall the time, I'm like why not?
Chris Walters (09:48):
I'm like I feel,
you know, I got into the point
where, like I feel if I'm notdoing something productive, you
know that it's like just a wasteof time.
So I'm always doing somethingand he's like mean, he, he's
doing his own thing, but I'mlike no, I want to be like
something you know more and youknow I think like you know like
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you have kids right yeah likeyou always want like more for
them yeah, for sure so I'm likeno, I want to do something more,
you know, and uh, then kind oflike just chill and stuff so so
have you gotten into businesswith your father, into real
estate development, or?
no, no, actually I used to workwith him in, uh, doing
construction and stuff.
So he was doing countertops atone point I don't know if you
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guys remember that, but he wasdoing a corian solid surface
countertops and I remember beingwith him in the summer, um, in
like a sweat shop basically.
It was like a like kind of likea gym almost, and there was
like no ac, no nothing.
In the middle of the summer inflorida plumbers crack plumbers
crack mandatory.
Yeah, but yeah exactly it suckedthough, because, man, I I
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couldn't wait for lunchtime tocome because he would be like,
okay, another one, and you justwas be standing all day.
Okay, another one, and you knowhe would do like I don't know
50 a day, and it's just you knowstanding standing.
So when he's like okaylunchtime, I'm like hallelujah
yeah, you know I would be soexcited for lunchtime and he
gave me like a hundred dollarsat the end of the day, which?
That's when you're, like, youknow, 15, 16 years old.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (11:16):
It's
like okay hundred dollars after
him.
That's probably why I leftchristmas, like I don't want to
do this shit.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think this is after him.
That's probably why I left.
Chris was like I don't want todo this shit.
I don't blame him.
I mean I was thinking, man, ofall the jobs I did in high
school, I should have been awaiter, because I mean, you get
tips and stuff and they're cashtips.
At the time I was like I wasfucking working.
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I went from Burger King toMcDonald's really what you
should have done.
Chris Walters (11:51):
Because I worked
at McDonald's.
That place sucks.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (11:54):
I like
to interact with people.
Chris Walters (11:57):
For me the
computer.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (11:58):
They
were just older.
No, I'm serious bro.
How long?
Chris Walters (12:01):
have you been
here?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (12:03):
I've
been here for 50 years.
That's what kind of what itlooked like, bro.
Chris Walters (12:06):
I remember when
this place opened.
This location no Burger.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (12:10):
King.
Chris Walters (12:13):
But yeah, so yeah
, I did that and then I went
into Sweet Bay, remember.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (12:17):
Sweet
Bay.
I remember Sweet Bay.
Chris Walters (12:18):
Yeah.
So I was in the back officethere at Sweet Bay like counting
the change and shit, which wascrazy because like I was 16, 17
yeah, and they were like I wascounting stacks of at the time
it was a lot, but it's liketwenty thousand dollars, thirty
thousand dollars, and I eventold my manager one time I'm
like you realize that I couldjust pocket this money and just
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leave.
He's like, yeah, but you knowthe cops would be after you.
I'm like I would be gone.
He's like, yeah, but thatprobably wouldn't be good.
I'm like you know, but at thetime it's like 20 000, 30 000.
You know, it's like you werejust counting change, just
counting change they didn't havethose uh coin they had the coin
they had, like um, they wereweighing the change and weighing
the bills.
There's like, uh, it's probablylike old technology now, but
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you would put a stack of billsand it would you know it had to
be like the same domination, butit would tell you, okay, like
this is 50 worth of ones wow,bro, they have money.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (13:11):
Was it
pretty accurate back then?
Chris Walters (13:12):
back then it
changed too so you put the
change on and it tells you bythe weight of it how much change
you have.
You know, nickels, and so youjust add it all up and you make
a deposit to the bank.
But it's crazy.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (13:22):
We had
like wonder.
Sweet bay went out of business.
Oh, you know, because of me.
Chris Walters (13:26):
Because of me,
you were paying me 550 an hour
and I was counting like two ortwenty thousand dollars of your
own money and stuff like that.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (13:33):
But
yeah, there was a lot of theft
and shit going on.
Chris Walters (13:35):
I remember one of
the one girls um, we were doing
like scratch offs too and wesold lottery tickets.
Yeah, I remember one of thegirls, um, she had this kind of
Pulled it off the wall.
No, she had this scheme and itwas like genius, you know.
But she got caught eventuallybecause of my ass.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (13:49):
Tell
us.
Chris Walters (13:51):
So her scheme was
that she would buy scratch-off
tickets, like, well, buy them,she would tear them off, right,
she worked there with me in theback office, so she was, like
you know, the same level I was,but she would get the scratch
offs and then she would likemake a refund for something.
And then she would, she wouldbuy, you know, she would take
the 20 out for a random refundfor, like, toilet paper or
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whatever, and then she would getthe $20 or whatever, and then
she would bring up the scratchoff and then put it in the
drawer so it doesn't look likewe're missing anything.
Then she would take thosescratch offs and then scratch
them and then whatever money shewon from that she would pocket.
So the only reason that we Iguess that I remember like that.
I yeah, it's probably somethingyou know, but no, no, no.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (14:33):
a
different scam, oh yeah, yeah.
So the only reason we're notgoing to mention that, though.
Chris Walters (14:37):
I feel that was
something that you guys did.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (14:39):
No, no
, we didn't do it.
Chris Walters (14:46):
We didn't do it,
not us it was on a kfc taco bell
though.
Oh okay, okay, yeah but yeah, Ikind of felt bad because I'm
kind of accidentally the onethat caught her, because I I did
like the reconciliation weekly,yeah.
So then I was like it went upto my boss I was like, hey, this
doesn't match and I I thought Ijust didn't know how to count
I'm just like I'm fucking uphere because I just maybe don't
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know how to add whatever.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (15:07):
you
know, I was never good at math,
you know went to the old sickle,but I was like you know, didn't
pay attention.
Chris Walters (15:12):
So, yeah, I was
just like I don't, maybe I don't
know how to count.
And then he like had a reallymean angry face and I gotta get
to the bottom of this.
So they were like watchingcameras the whole day.
I'm like I don't know what'sgoing on.
I don't know it's likethousands of dollars, and that's
why I thought it was like anaccounting error at my point,
like surely I'm don't know whatthe heck I'm doing.
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So, uh, yeah, they eventuallycaught her, they traced it back
to her and she she got fired andthat kind of she go to jail I
don't know if she went to jail,I think she just got.
Uh, she was.
She was a little bit older thanI was she was like three or
four years older no, no, she wasin her like early 20s so I was,
I was like 16 17.
She was in her 20s.
I don't know if she they evercalled the cops on her, or just
you used to hear chris waltersend someone to jail.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (15:55):
Yeah,
exactly, send her to jail.
You're out of here.
You're fired.
Chris Walters (15:59):
Yeah, but I feel
bad because, you know, I think
don't feel bad't feel bad.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (16:02):
You
did it harmlessly.
Just do what you want to do.
Chris Walters (16:04):
I mean if I want
to do some damage, I want to do
it, like you know, intentionally.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (16:08):
I
don't want to be like oops, I
sent someone to jail, Oops, youknow.
Chris Walters (16:12):
It was that
Garton Did I do that?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (16:14):
Did I
do that?
What was that?
What was that one?
The black dude with the flattop, with the glasses?
Oh, steve, yeah, did I do that.
Chris Walters (16:25):
Yeah, I felt like
that yeah, so, so then, yeah,
so then, then yeah, then I gotout of that and then eventually
went to uh, to PA school and sophysician assistant school and
uh.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (16:39):
So
it's like how old were you?
Chris Walters (16:46):
then I was uh, I
went, started school there.
Well, when I actually started.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (16:49):
How
long did it take?
It took, uh, altogether sixyears.
So bad, it's not bad at all.
No, you go to usf.
Chris Walters (16:51):
Yeah, yeah, so I
went to uh pasco hernando's
state college yeah, when I wentto uh usf for for two years
because they had this programwhere if you go to a state
college, you automatically getto Get to a university Unless
you're in total, fuck up.
You know I just made the cut soI got into, you know, USF and
then from USF I took a trip allthe way to Massachusetts, new
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Hampshire.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (17:14):
That's
where you went to school.
Chris Walters (17:16):
That's where I
went to school.
Oh shit, didn't know how todrive in the snow, didn't?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (17:19):
know
nothing no-transcript.
Chris Walters (17:50):
Like I had to
learn really quick how to drive
man it was.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (17:52):
It was
crazy have you guys ever drew
in the snow I have in michiganand the up?
Chris Walters (17:57):
oh yeah, you have
to like stop.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (17:59):
You
know, five cars, six cars back
but yeah, you gotta work, wait,uh, you gotta what it?
You have to watch out for blackice.
Chris Walters (18:06):
Yeah, yeah.
Why does it have to be blackice you?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (18:08):
can't
identify.
Chris Walters (18:13):
That's not like
the family guy.
No, no, that's the key appeal.
That's the key appeal.
Yeah, exactly.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (18:26):
You
know the black guys.
They take up all this whiteoppressive snow, exactly,
exactly, exactly, as long asit's not yellow snow.
Chris Walters (18:30):
Oh yeah, no, no
no, yeah, so I drive it all
night or driving in snow it does.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (18:36):
I
hated it you have the chain on
the tires no, no, but I had a.
Chris Walters (18:39):
I had a ford
focus at the time and and that
one sounds like a good drive.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (18:42):
Yeah,
that was, yeah, that was a good
drive.
But uh, oh, there you go righton the buccaneer I don't know
just don't, don't just embarrassmy team, like that at least it
wasn't beer yeah, drop the beer,well.
Well, I mean, it's white clawthere you go, girls drink yeah,
that's what girls drink, yeahand then, uh didn't they wait
(19:04):
what happened because I rememberyou.
Chris Walters (19:05):
You were David
for the longest time.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (19:07):
Okay,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
The evil took over.
And then Sean came out.
I'm good, I'm good, I'm good so.
I went through aself-rebranding here, right.
Chris Walters (19:16):
Yeah, you know
that's what it is right.
So it was David for Bray, andnow you're a girl.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (19:26):
So my
full name is Sean David for Bray
, but because my uh, mygrandparents, who are from Cuba,
couldn't say Sean, they'd callme Chang.
So, they went to David and theycouldn't even say David.
They said David, which is you?
Know in Spanish.
So then, like after, when westarted this business, I was
(19:49):
like you know what?
I don't want anybody to knowwho I am.
Chris Walters (19:51):
So I'm going to
go by my first name, Sean.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (19:53):
Well,
sorry to rat you out.
They're going to be like afteryou over here, it doesn't matter
.
Chris Walters (19:58):
Waiting at the
door here.
The last name gives it awayWitness protection.
The last name gives it awayWitness Protection.
Sean Febre & Manny Febr (20:04):
Program
.
I'm going to have some mafios.
Chris Walters (20:06):
Exactly, david
Cut cut.
No.
No, that's a cut.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (20:10):
So
then I just decided to go by
Sean, just because I mean it'smy first name.
Might as well go by my firstname.
Yeah, yeah.
Chris Walters (20:16):
That's always.
I know you by you know David.
Yeah, yeah so it was so funny.
I'm like, oh funny.
Like, oh, he's getting sean,but he's getting the shauna back
now, let's go.
Yeah, exactly.
Hey, there is a superman logounderneath.
Yeah, it doesn't stand forsuperman from hope.
(20:41):
Oh, that's what the s supermanis.
Oh, I remember that.
Yeah, I read something aboutthat the other day.
He's like I don't know if it'snot sports.
I don't know what the fuckyou're talking about yeah, but
then, then I kid you not thevery next day, uh, I graduated I
.
It was like, how long did?
It take you six years.
So six years all together.
Uh, the pa school is only twoyears.
So so it was.
It was, uh, it was difficult.
Like the first year is just allbeing in a classroom.
(21:02):
The second year is actuallylike going into hospitals and
clinics and stuff like that anduh so like, but it was difficult
is that what you call a?
residency.
Yeah, it's like the equivalentof the residency, except you
don't get paid.
So you're like seeing all thesepatients and stuff for a year
and like every four, every fourweeks, you go to another state
in another rotation so you knowyou might be in pediatrics and
(21:23):
then four weeks later you're insomething else, and four weeks
later you're in something elseand uh.
So there's like nine, nine ofthem.
It's like a pregnancy.
There's like nine, ninerotations and then, and then
you're, you're, you're done.
But yeah, the day after I, Ilike, I'm like, I'm done with
this.
So I packed up and and in themiddle of the snowstorm, I'm
driving back down to florida,like in the middle of a
(21:44):
snowstorm.
It took me like three or fourdays to get home from New
Hampshire.
Massachusetts area, but I waslike I don't care, I'm gone, I'm
done.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (21:52):
I'm
done with this place.
I'm not one of those peoplelike I fell in love with this
season.
Chris Walters (21:56):
No, I'm out of
this motherfucker and I remember
that there was like a changefrom North Carolina to, from
from north carolina to to, uh,south carolina.
The snow turned into rain and Inever was so excited for rain
before.
I was like yes, finally, I'mdone you know like, uh, what is
it the end of like breaking bador whatever with jesse?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (22:13):
I
don't know if you, I've seen
some episodes, but I'm never.
Chris Walters (22:16):
Yeah, it's like I
, I've escaped.
I'm like, yeah, I'm escaped,you know, but yeah, there was,
it was, uh, it was an adventuredefinitely I love it and then.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (22:25):
So we
kind of got through a big part
of the story and then when weget back we'll talk about the
tangle brew and everything elsewith tuned in the chris walter
story.
All right, guys, and we're backwith happy hour, holidays and a
truly great story the chriswalter.
We haven't even talked abouttangle brew.
Chris Walters (22:43):
no, no, we're
about to approach it, we're
about to approach it.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (22:45):
We're
about to approach it Because
right now, he leaves the fuckingin the middle of a snowstorm.
He says fuck it Boston.
The New England Patriots, tomBrady, fuck you.
How could you say?
Chris Walters (22:55):
fuck you to Tom
Brady he followed me.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (22:59):
He was
like fuck the snow.
Chris Walters (23:01):
What year was
this?
That was back back in what 2013?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (23:08):
2012.
Yeah, that was so.
You were graduated 2013, 2012.
And then you, you decide okay,well, I got the degree in in
this, I might as well do itright yeah, exactly.
Chris Walters (23:17):
So no, it was
something that I that I really
loved, and when I got intomedicine, you know I was like,
well, this is you know whenyou're into medicine.
You know I was like, well, thisis you know when you're.
I think that you know, didn'tyour parents want you to be like
engineers, or?
Sean Febre & Manny Fe (23:27):
something
.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I was only like 12 creditsaway.
Chris Walters (23:32):
Yeah, yeah.
So, like you know, and weactually did it.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (23:36):
We
were working for civil
engineering companies up untilwe started for Brave Frameworks.
Chris Walters (23:40):
With nepotism.
Sean Febre & Manny Feb (23:41):
Nepotism
.
Yeah, with nepotism, definenepotism.
My father works there.
I got a job.
Only one of us got fired,though.
Chris Walters (23:54):
I wasn't
interested.
This motherfucker Get out ofthe porn.
This is the fifth time I try totell you.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (24:02):
We
were doing quantities which are
estimates for a job.
It was from Hillsborough Avenue, dale Mabry, all the way to
Kennedy and we would be assigneditems to quantify and I would
get through like 10.
And my brother's over therewatching fucking movies on the
screen and I'm like motherfucker.
I had to do his job.
And then they pulled ourInternet records and they were
(24:25):
like well, manny.
Chris Walters (24:28):
It says here that
you've been on the internet for
eight hours.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (24:32):
I
probably watched the Titanic
four times.
Chris Walters (24:34):
This is before
VPNs or the virtual.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (24:38):
This
is before we realized that you
could delete internet browserhistory.
I forgot about that part.
Chris Walters (24:45):
I taught you that
back in the day what happened?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (24:47):
I'm
like always click delete.
I always click delete the gayporn man.
I'm like always click delete.
You want to talk about thatstory?
Chris Walters (24:58):
oh yeah, well, no
, yeah, we could touch on it.
Do you remember you?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (25:02):
you
came oh yeah, we used to come
over there and watch porn.
Chris Walters (25:07):
No, I was not
thinking about the porn.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (25:09):
The
porn was one thing I thought you
meant.
Chris Walters (25:12):
Also, you came by
with some weed and you were
like hey, we got some weed fromsome friend the big old peace
pipe.
So for people that they don'tknow, my parents renovated
houses and they would collectall this shit that they had from
the houses and it's a weirdshit.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (25:31):
Some
of them were bombs.
Chris Walters (25:32):
Yeah, they got a
freaking Indian pipe.
It was like this big, that shitwas huge.
It was a huge Indian pipe andit had a small bowl at the end
and we're like let's use this.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (25:41):
And we
didn't know what the fuck we
were doing, because we were likein seventh grade.
Chris Walters (25:45):
I think it was a
freaking tobacco.
I don't know what the fuck, thebowl was so fucking small in my
dick.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (25:48):
But
that thing was long as fuck.
Yeah, it was long.
That's for like old people then.
Chris Walters (25:53):
Yeah, I think so.
But we were trying to light itand shit, and I remember my
parents had like a boat and weboat trying to light this shit
and we didn't know what the fuckwe were doing.
I think, like we, we got caughtand you're like, oh shit, shit,
shit, I'm late, and you're likeI gotta get rid of this, I
gotta get rid of this, becauseyour parents were like calling
for you and then my parents werecalling.
He's like I don't know what todo.
I don't know.
I think you ended up likethrowing the bag in the the
(26:15):
street, like water sewer yeah,he's like he's, like I gotta get
.
So he threw it down there andI'm like bro, that was good we
like I don't want to get fuckingcaught I'll make my ground in
forever.
But yeah, he threw that away,but that was our.
My failed experience my firstfailed.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (26:29):
I
don't even think we got any
smoke.
I don't think so either.
Then we?
I think we tried.
How did we try it with like areceipt?
Yeah, yeah, we didn't have tofan at this shit at all then we
were like because we're likeyeah, dude, because we're like
people we always hear people sayyeah, I, I'm going to roll it
in paper.
So we're like well, this lookslike a piece of paper.
Chris Walters (26:45):
I roll it up and
then fuck this.
Yeah, we tried and then I gotit right.
And then I got it right.
I got it.
I was like fuck it, you grabthe.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (26:57):
Philly
tobacco things.
You cut out all the tobacco,roll it in there, or you could
have just bought papers.
Chris Walters (27:04):
Yeah, but.
I don't know Well here's whatwe do we go back to Linda Woods
and then we go behind that boatagain and we still and we do it
the right way this time Well, ifyou guys ever do, this soda can
punch her a hole on the top ofit.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (27:17):
I
didn't like the smoke out of
aluminum and all that shit andthen carb on the side you put it
.
Chris Walters (27:22):
No animal or
aluminum products, no, just
natural products.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (27:30):
No,
just inhale it.
I mean, I do.
Chris Walters (27:33):
I smoke weed out
of glass, excuse me.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (27:36):
Yeah,
have a bong.
I'm very disappointed.
I'm very disappointed.
Chris Walters (27:40):
You're grounded,
you're grounded.
No, you're grounded, you'reback to.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (27:43):
David.
No, you're back to David.
Chris Walters (27:47):
I remember your
dad used to get pissed at me
because I used to walk in thebackyard.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (27:51):
He
thought you were a bad influence
.
I know Do you remember when Iand then your dad thought he was
a bad influence.
Chris Walters (27:56):
Remember when I
sprayed the fucking fire
extinguisher on you?
Do I sprayed?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (28:00):
the
fucking fire extinguisher on you
.
Do you remember that?
I think so.
I sprayed the fire In thegarage.
Chris Walters (28:03):
In the garage and
you got in trouble, and you got
in trouble.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (28:06):
I
don't understand how that's even
possible.
Chris Walters (28:09):
I pulled the fire
extinguisher.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (28:13):
And I
saw your mom come out.
Chris Walters (28:15):
She's like what
the hell?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (28:15):
are
you doing?
Chris Walters (28:16):
You're grounded,
and then.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (28:18):
I
didn't even get in trouble.
I'm like and then I didn't evenget in trouble.
This is awesome.
This is a shoot that I had togo through as a child.
It made you a tougher man.
Chris Walters (28:26):
Yes, put some
hair on your chest.
Oh I got too much of that.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (28:33):
Yeah,
I don't know how that worked out
.
Well, now I have asthma.
Now you're going to havetrouble breathing.
Exactly the reason you invitedme.
Chris Walters (28:40):
Here's the
lawsuit.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (28:45):
Here's
a year's worth of medical bills
dating back to 2006.
No, allegedly.
Chris Walters (28:48):
Allegedly exactly
no, but um, yeah, I getting
back to that, I was like tiredof medicine and tired of tired
of all that shit.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (28:56):
So, um
, and I mean I don't do it
anymore.
Chris Walters (28:58):
No, no, I, I.
So I was at.
My first job was primary careand I did that for like two or
three years in the boonies,brooksville.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (29:07):
Spring
Hill.
Chris Walters (29:08):
Worse, it was
called Bushnell.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (29:10):
Oh
wait, that's where Stream Song's
at the golf course Bushnell'sin Citrus, isn't it?
No, it's going towards like.
Chris Walters (29:18):
Ocala Bushnell's
this way Towards like uh yeah
that's where fucking uh, bro,yeah it is, it's on the way,
bushnell is North?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (29:24):
No,
it's not.
I don't know, I'm not.
Chris Walters (29:27):
Hey, how often do
you go to that place?
No, no, I.
What?
Bushnell?
Yeah, I used to have to goevery day but so which way I'm
not partaking in this argument.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (29:38):
You're
thinking about Palm or it's
similar, but it's not Bushnell.
Chris Walters (29:44):
And we'll be
right back.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (29:46):
And
we're back.
No, Bushnell is north man, it'slike Lakanto.
I went up there with Zach torace cars.
You race cars illegally.
Chris Walters (29:57):
He would do
nothing illegal.
He never did anything in hislife illegally.
Go-karts Is that what they callhim nowadays I'm smoking a
go-kart 10 beers in allegedlyyeah, but uh, getting back.
Um, so I was, I was like tiredof of kind of medicine because I
I loved it, I love the patientsand stuff, but but no, I do it.
(30:20):
So I went from from primarycare to urgent care, which is
like basically docking a box,like just seeing patients every
single day.
You won't see them ever again.
They just come in.
I've been here rake, youevaluate them, give them the
prescription, they leave, butyou never see the same person
again.
Sean Febre & Manny Febr (30:35):
Exactly
a lot of that, a lot of that, a
lot of that I'm dead serious.
Chris Walters (30:41):
I have a bunch of
, a whole bunch of fucking
stories with that shit, how manycocks have you held in?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (30:44):
your
hand.
More than Well you guys werethe first ones, don't worry.
Chris Walters (30:49):
You guys were the
first.
I've learned from you.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (30:51):
We
feel special.
You had two fingers to holdours.
Chris Walters (30:55):
Yeah, sometimes
you have to taste it just to
make sure that is all a lie.
We've all been there yeah,exactly, we've all been there
everybody in this room has beenthere but, yeah, what the fuck
no, he was smacking, he waslicking his fingers exactly I
(31:16):
forgot.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (31:18):
You
gotta do shit like that yeah,
you do well you know, and Ithink not to cut you off, Chris.
I know you're continuing thestory like that.
Yeah, you do.
Well, you know what?
And I think you know not to cutyou off, Chris, because I know
you're going to continue thatstory.
Oh, but you still dig that.
No, I know, but I was going tosay my cousin got his RN and he
was like bro, all I do all dayis clean shit.
Exactly.
Chris Walters (31:30):
And put in
cabinets.
You know like.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (31:43):
And
take shit the.
The medical field it's likeit's great pay, right, you know,
you know definitely has a goodfoundation for you financially,
but as far as the work you haveto do, it's not the most
glamorous right, yeah, exactly,yeah, this was like the most
disgusting thing you've had todo what is the most disgusting
thing?
Chris Walters (31:56):
uh, I don't even
know if I want to hear gonorrhea
coming out.
The gonorrhea I would saygonorrhea tops the list, yeah.
No way for real Uncircumcisedmen.
You have to not to get into toographic detail.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (32:07):
That's
okay, get graphic.
Yeah, get graphic.
Paint the picture.
Chris Walters (32:11):
I hope no one is
eating at home.
Put down the popcorn.
Sean Febre & Manny Febr (32:16):
Because
it looks like that when it
comes out.
Yeah, exactly.
Chris Walters (32:19):
Does it really?
No?
No, like people that areuncircumcised, like you have to
like, do the swab and stuffinside their penis sometimes.
So, you have to, like you know,grab it and then put down the
foreskin and take.
You know, it's just freakinggross and insert.
Oh no, I just do everythingbare hands.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (32:37):
That's
how you're supposed to do it.
Gloves who wears gloves?
Chris Walters (32:48):
so um yeah, so
you had to put the swab in and
then, but you know, just gettingyour freaking, you know where
is it okay with the foreskin andeverything.
I think that's the thethemselves.
Sean Febre & Manny Fe (32:54):
Sometimes
they're just like staring at it
like oh, you want me to do itokay they're like yeah, I
thought this was a full servicekind of thing.
Chris Walters (33:01):
I'm like I don't
know, this is not a massage
parlor.
I don't know where you thinkyou are, who is?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (33:05):
it
Bill Belichick who is that
Justin Tucker Kraft?
No, no, yeah, robert Kraft,robert Kraft, yeah, justin
Tucker.
Yeah, they want a full service.
Chris Walters (33:14):
I could do it
faster than they can.
Obviously, you don't know howto use it.
That's why you got in thissituation.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (33:23):
This
is a strange question.
Have you ever had any of themget erect?
Chris Walters (33:27):
Erect no no.
Sean Febre & Manny F (33:30):
Thankfully
no, but.
Chris Walters (33:31):
I did some
prostate exams and sometimes the
men are like, oh, oh, oh.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (33:37):
I'm
like what the fuck's going on?
Is that a scream for pain or isthat?
I don't know.
Chris Walters (33:40):
I don't know, I
don't know if there was like a
scream for pleasure or screamfor pain, I don't know.
I was like are you okay?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (33:45):
there,
buddy, like I don't know, I'm
dying right now.
Chris Walters (33:50):
What's more
awkward is I taught too so after
the urgent care experience.
I taught USF TA students right,and so I don't know if you know
this, but like to teach.
They bring in paid people, paidactors or whatever you want to
call them to teach, like how todo the rectal exams, how to do
prostate exams, how to do breastexams, so they pay these people
(34:12):
to come in and then you knowthey're qualified.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (34:16):
I
don't know, Like I don't know.
Chris Walters (34:17):
I don't know
where these people come from.
They get paid to have fingersshoved up their butt.
I don't know where these peoplecome from.
They they're, like they getpaid to have fingers shoved up
their butt.
You know, like I don't know,but so yeah, it was.
So you have to like teach thestudents and stuff like how to
how to do this shit, and they'rejust so there's a line of
students just sticking a fingerin somebody's in line in a line
looks like a gangbang type ofthing, like my turn and then
stick the finger up the ass.
Next stick the finger up the assyeah, yeah, same, yeah, same
(34:40):
person.
Same person and they've done itso much that they're
experienced, so they'll tell youif you're not in the right spot
, They'll say a little bit tothe left oh yeah, Just right.
What the fuck?
Oh my God.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (34:55):
And
then you had to do that for an
hour.
Next, Next.
Chris Walters (35:03):
By the end of the
day, their ass looks like a
subway station.
It's freaking crazy, oh my God.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (35:06):
So
basically don't get into
medicine, no, no.
Chris Walters (35:09):
Don't get into
medicine and you know what.
It's not talking about penisesand being erect.
It's not scalable, it's notscalable.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (35:21):
It's
like a penis without the aga
it's just always flabby and youknow you're never going to get
anywhere with it.
Chris Walters (35:26):
So no, so that
that's when I was like you know,
I was listening to podcasts andthat's why I got into yours,
right?
so I was looking at your podcastand shit like that and a bunch
of entrepreneur podcasts and I'mlike you know what.
This thing isn't scalable andlike the.
The best that you can do aslike a pa or doctor is to like
have your own practice, but asas like a pa, like even doctors,
(35:47):
get like really bored aboutwhat they're doing, and so those
are like surgeons, they getcold, right, they get cold to
the notion.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (35:55):
Yeah,
they're like, okay next, okay,
next, it's a conveyor belt.
Chris Walters (35:58):
You know conveyor
belt medicine okay next you
know, like like the guy with hisfinger up his ass next.
You know like the same shitright so, uh, you know you get
kind of like cold to it and youkind of get bored of it, but you
know the docs can't do anything.
So because they're stuck right,you know, because they did like
14, 15 years you know some youknow of school, so they're stuck
so it's almost double the timethat you did right.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (36:19):
So if
you did six it would have been
12 to be exactly, exactly, butthey're also uh accumulating
wealth while they're doing ityeah, but you don't have much
time to enjoy it if you'reworking 80 hours a week.
But I think where he'stransitioning to is, you know, a
woman, I mean to anentrepreneurial spirit to an
(36:40):
entrepreneurial spirit.
Chris Walters (36:41):
I, I, exactly, I
was like Because, you got worn
out, I'm assuming.
Yeah, I got worn out.
I realized it wasn't scalable.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (36:48):
Well,
I was talking about worn out
Like the ass.
Chris Walters (36:52):
Yeah, exactly
Like that guy a little bit to
the left.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (36:54):
Oh,
that's just right.
Chris Walters (36:56):
Yeah, I got
really worn out more ways than
one, you know.
So, uh, I realized, like,listening to you know
entrepreneur podcasts, like,like your guys and and others
like, uh, alex hermosi, you know, um, just I'm like you know
what there's?
There's a whole nother worldout here, you know, and uh, you
know not to break in a songwhole new world but, but you
(37:18):
know, but you never taught thatabout your parents.
Your, your parents are alwayslike you need to go to school,
you need to go engineeringschool.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (37:23):
But
you know what's crazy?
Chris Walters (37:24):
your dad was an
entrepreneur but he, he didn't
want me to have that struggle,you know.
So he he's like you need a cushjob, you need to, you know,
pursue something really 401khealth insurance nine to five.
And he meant the best and, andI don't regret it, I'm not.
I don't want to say I regret itbecause you know, if I didn't
have the capital from from thatto invest into oops, sorry, to
(37:46):
invest in an upper gymmembership or whatever, I would
never have been.
You know it would be harder.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (37:51):
I
guess it gives you some
structure too it gives you somestructure too.
Chris Walters (37:53):
So, but I also
learned a lot of shit from, from
dealing with shit you know forfor now, like you wouldn't know.
But like trying to convincepeople of of treatment plans and
shit.
Like you don't you think itwould just be like, hey, let's
do this and that's it.
No, you have to convince them.
They'd be like hey, you gotthis, this is what you need.
And they'll be like no, I don'tthink so.
Can you give me this?
And it's like no, you need this.
(38:18):
And this is why the reasons youneed this.
And then you have to like, youhave to kind of like compromise
with them, like and negotiatelike okay, well, if this doesn't
work, how about we?
We do that?
Oh, okay, that sounds good.
And you don't think about that.
In healthcare, you know,there's usually like 20, 30
years ago it was like here's aprescription, fuck off, you know
, good luck, you know.
But now, like everyone'sentitled and stuff.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (38:39):
So
they're like I want this, I want
that you know so, because myfriend that has no medical
degree told me that this wasgood.
Chris Walters (38:46):
Exactly you're
like, oh, my friend got, you
know, gonorrhea and this is whathe got.
So I want the same thing youknow, and and it's just like, uh
, it's crazy, but there's a lotof stuff that I learned from
that.
That that's actually like youlearn that you can use in other
places as well.
But yeah, I was.
I realized, like, do I want todo the same thing for the next
(39:07):
like 20, 30 years?
And yeah, it's good money, andyeah, it's it's you.
You don't have to worry as muchabout where your income's
coming from, but at the end ofthe day, it's not scalable and
you're just going to be doingthis.
You know some form of this andyou know you can get in.
What's good about being a PA isyou can get into different
specialties if you're bored ofit.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (39:30):
But
it's kind of the same
non-scalable kind of thing.
Chris Walters (39:31):
I mean, you're
pretty much stuck at the same
position your entire lifeExactly, and you could be a
manager, you could be somethinglike that, but really you're
never going to own your ownbusiness.
You're never going to own yourown practice, you're never going
to be able to scale this thing.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (39:42):
Why
didn't you go?
Chris Walters (39:42):
for a doctor I
was going to.
It's a funny story is thatcircling around in my dad.
I never knew what the hell a PAwas until my dad was doing a
counter actually a kitchen, forit was the person was.
Actually he works at Moffitt,it's full circle.
But he, there's this doctorsurgeon that works at Moffitt
and then his wife's a PA.
(40:03):
So he's like hey, you know, mydad was like trying to to do
good, and he's like, hey, I canhave you shadow this lady.
She's a PA.
But you know, maybe you canlearn something to apply to med
school.
I'm like sure.
So I went there and she took meto dark side.
So she showed me everything.
But she, she showed meeverything.
(40:23):
But she's like you know what apa is?
I'm like no, and she showed me.
She told me what it was and andI'm like, well, this is kind of
like a doctor, but less, lessyears of school.
She's like, yeah, so I'm likelet's do that.
And that pissed off my dad.
He's like no, you're gonna be adoctor.
I'm like, no, dad, I don'tthink I want to freaking go that
route.
So, um, it was like muchshorter.
I, I sucked at physics.
You know like I, I fucking needto know physics apparently yeah
(40:44):
apparently they know all these.
You know, yeah, it's like money,so money grab.
There's like a prerequisite toget into to like med school was
physics, so it's pointless it isyeah.
So, um, I was like okay, sothat's how I I ended up going
the uh, the pa route, but yeah,it's uh.
And then you realize that youknow, actually this is what
you're going to be doing.
Your, your next 20, 30 years ofyour life is just this and, and
(41:07):
you know, putting in the 401knot not scaling it.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (41:11):
Yeah,
this is our parents vision of
any future for their kids.
Right is you go to school, youget a job, you raise a family,
then you die right, exactlythat's your vision, yeah because
you don't have no freedom oftime, and that's what you have
now right, yeah, yeah, exactly,I mean you are here on a we'll
call it thursday at 12 o'clock.
(41:32):
Uh, doing a podcast now.
You wouldn't be able to do thatif you were in any other
position now.
Chris Walters (41:40):
Yeah exactly't
you?
Yeah, exactly, I think you know.
You hear the old adage aboutlike when you own a business,
you know you really don't havetime, but like you know because
you still need to be there andyou still put out fires and you
know it's your baby, but at thesame time, it's like you're not
on someone else's time.
You know you're on your baby'stime, which is what you built,
(42:06):
and you'd rather be on somethingthat you created in that time
versus someone telling you hey,you need to show up on this day,
you need to.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (42:08):
You
know, from this day to this day
and that's actually somethingthat most people don't realize
is being your own boss meansthat you actually have to be
your own boss and hold yourselfaccountable.
Right, that's true, yeah,that's the thing Cause people
think oh or have a partner.
Well, that's the thing Peoplego hey, I want to own my own
business.
But it's not all stars andrainbows all the time.
Chris Walters (42:25):
No no.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (42:26):
It's
like people get off.
You know they get done withtheir day and that's it, you're
done.
When you're a business owner,you're never done, not at 10
o'clock at night, not at 11o'clock at is.
You can say, oh, I don't feellike working today or I'm off.
No, you're not fucking off,you're on every fucking day,
saturday, sunday, doesn't matter.
(42:47):
Now, do you get some breaks innormal time?
When it comes to like, hey, Idon't have to be at this place
from this time to this time,sure, but overall, 24 hours a
day, you're on call.
Yeah your own call, yeah andthen, and then, if you have
delegated properly, then youwere able to plan and um and
(43:07):
have time that you can do thingsthat you want.
It could be on a on a monday atyou know, 11 am or, uh, fucking
thursday at 2 pm.
Chris Walters (43:16):
It's a
coincidental what time is it
right now?
Thursday.
I'm guessing the time, I'mguessing the time.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (43:22):
I'm
guessing the time.
Chris Walters (43:24):
No, it's true.
And there there's a.
You know they're saying that'slike okay, well, if you're
you're a business owner and youfind yourself like not doing
anything, it's like you betterdo something, because when, when
everything's like you know nice, and there out fires and you're
not at war, you better bepreparing because shit's going
down the line.
So I think one of the tips isWait, wait, before you get to
(43:46):
that tip, chris we're going tobe right back.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (43:48):
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We'll be right back with thechristopher walter story.
All right, guys, welcome backto happy hour holidays, and we
always want to try to educateentrepreneurs out there that are
(44:09):
just starting out or thinkingabout.
Well, we got the wrong guest,then how?
dare you but uh, chris was aboutto align us with the chris
walters story.
We were about to align us witha tip, not just the tip, but the
real tip.
Well, about starting your ownbusiness yeah, yeah.
Chris Walters (44:31):
So, um, starting
a business and I guess the you
know where I was talking abouthow uh like scaling and things
like that um, when you thealcohol, you know it's all right
we, we were outside, we werehanging out.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (44:52):
So you
know, even though it only seems
like a second on the podcast wewere gone for about 30 yeah, so
it's a whole different day.
Chris Walters (44:59):
Yeah, it's a
whole different day, we're all
wearing the same shit.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (45:04):
So
then let's transition.
All right, so tango brew, thisis you and your wife's business,
right, right and um.
Now we want to know how did youguys come up with this idea?
Chris Walters (45:15):
yeah, yeah.
So, uh, I was, we both reallybig coffee lovers, and and, uh,
me especially, and she'sargentinian, so she, she loves
wine and and coffee as well, sowe had this does she have a
green?
card.
No, she doesn't have a green,she has a visa.
No, I'm just kidding.
No, no, no, so she, she, weboth came up with this uh story
(45:38):
of like, oh well, one day wehave a coffee shop.
So it was like one of thosepipe dreams that you're like,
you know, that's cool, butyou're like, ok, maybe one day
in the future, right.
And then this, this place likeacross the street from us,
because at that time we lived ona apartment off of Bayshore,
and so there's a place acrossthe street, a little kind of
(45:59):
hole in the wall, and I'm like,oh, and that'd be cute, a place
across the street, a little kindof hole in the wall and I'm
like, oh, wouldn't that be cute,willow and Cass Huh.
Willow and Cass.
No well, the first place wewere looking at is off of McDell
, and a place by Bayshore is byMcDell.
It's like a gas station there,and so it was like a really
small kind of place and we werelooking at that.
Thank God, you didn't go forthat one no, no, no, and uh, so
(46:19):
we were kind of looking at it.
First it was just supposed tobe coffee, just coffee.
So we're like, oh yeah, sowe're entertaining this idea.
We got in touch with, uh, thisone, you know, commercial broker
, and uh, he looks at the spaceand he's like you know, and then
we're telling him our kind of adream and he's like, you know,
I, I like your dream and but you, you sound like you want more
than just like a coffee shop,like can I show you someplace
(46:42):
else?
and uh, so I'm like, okay, youknow, and okay yeah exactly and
we're like, and we told himstraight up, I'm like, hey, you
know this is, you know, becareful where you where you take
us.
So, uh, he, he showed us theour current address uh is uh on
608 north willow, about twoblocks away from University of
(47:03):
Tampa.
So Willow and Cass, and heshowed us that place and it has
garage doors that open up veryairy, has a huge patio.
It has 1,600 square foot ofspace.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (47:17):
Just
on the inside.
Chris Walters (47:19):
Just on the
inside.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (47:19):
yeah,
so we looked at the competition
around, because your seating isaround 90 people.
Yeah, 90 people you know totalinside and outside, that's a lot
of fucking people.
Chris Walters (47:28):
We actually get
more people on the outside than
the inside, so a huge patio.
So we were really excited aboutit.
We were looking at thecompetition, great views, yeah.
Sean Febre & Manny Feb (47:38):
Downtown
table.
Chris Walters (47:39):
Oh, I thought you
meant someone else.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (47:43):
A lot
of good looking women running
around, yeah, so uh, so yeah.
Chris Walters (47:48):
So we're like, oh
, this is great.
And we looked at, looked at youknow the competition and things
like that and say, hey, can wedo this?
And then we're like, yeah, soit it.
Then it evolved into coffee andwine, and then we were looking
into it and then we're like weneed food because we just can't.
You know, people that aredrinking want food.
So, then we were doing justdoing tapas and it and it turned
into this whole you knowlimited service restaurant kind
(48:09):
of concept.
So we're really, really excitedabout that and it, you know,
opens next week and so, whoa,allegedly, allegedly, yeah.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (48:20):
No no.
Chris Walters (48:20):
It's been a you
know whoa, whoa, allegedly,
allegedly, yeah, no, no, it'sbeen a few different delays, and
one of the things I would sayis, when things start up and
when you have a dream, I thinkwhat sets apart different
entrepreneurs from others isthat, whatever you think and
this is like an age-old adagetell whatever time you think
it's going to take, whatevermoney that you think it's going
(48:42):
to take, multiply it by three,four, five, six.
You know it's 10 times becauseyou know you think it's going to
take.
They tell you it's going totake X, and then it turns out to
be a whole nother you knowstory.
So, um, I think that's a setsapart people that are really
passionate about things versusin adaptive.
Yeah, because if you're going inthere and saying, oh, okay,
(49:04):
it's going to take six months,and then you know it doesn't,
some people will be like youknow, oh, that's it, that's it,
you know, throw it in the towel.
But I think you know, if youstick with it and you know you,
you get it, all you're got.
If you not give up, then youknow you actually like see the,
the you know seeds of your labor.
So I think that's reallyimportant too.
Is is just to to not give up,because a lot of people have
(49:27):
this image in their mind at okay, in, in six months it's going
to be this, or nine months isgoing to be this, and sometimes
it's, you know, two times longer.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (49:34):
How
long has it?
Chris Walters (49:35):
taken.
Uh well, from from when, when?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (49:38):
we
actually saw the idea.
Chris Walters (49:41):
Yeah, yeah oh
it's, I have stories on that man
a whole nother podcast.
But from the time we actuallylooked at the place till now,
it's been about uh, a year now,like uh, february.
We actually saw the place.
Actually, we actually first sawthe place in november 2023, so
it's been more than a year,about a you know year and a
quarter or whatever.
(50:01):
So, yeah, it's been a long,long time coming and we've had
issues with, like, the plumbing.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (50:09):
Yeah,
can you give advice on what?
Chris Walters (50:11):
you've learned
through that process.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (50:14):
Also.
I mean what I think Chris coulddefinitely say is problem
solving is number one onentrepreneurs list.
I think if you can problemsolve quickly on your feet,
you're going to be able to movethings along Right.
That's one of my biggest things.
Chris Walters (50:27):
No, it's true.
So what we try, what we try todo, is is hire the architect
that did the whole entireapartment complex, cause it's
within a apartment complex, soit's a Jade apartments, so we're
on the first floor of Jade andso we're like, why not bring in
the architect that did the wholeentire building?
So we went ahead and did that.
(50:53):
I'm like, how can they mess up?
Right, they, they designed thewhole building.
You know, obviously, let's just, hey, oh, yeah, we already have
the specs, look great.
So, um, they did.
We contacted them, they drew upthe plans and, uh, the the day
we were supposed to do theplumbing rough in, the
contractor calls us and says,hey, um, yeah, this is not going
to work.
We have to design the redesign,the whole entire plumbing plans
(51:14):
.
And we're like, why, uh,there's a concrete, concrete
footers like these huge 15 footfooters coming down from these
columns.
And uh, so I'm like, are youserious?
So they're, they're like, yeah,so we can't do anything until
because this is the first thingwe need to do is the plumbing
rough-in.
So I contacted the architect.
I'm like, hey, you gave usfaulty plans and I don't know
(51:35):
why you did.
And they said, oh well, sorry,we didn't know that there was
concrete footage there and we'relike you're the one that
designed it.
Well, the engineer probably didthat part.
Yeah, the engineer.
But I mean, they're, you know,they're on cahoots, yeah, so
you'd like to think so.
So we, we told them that that,hey, you, you designed it and
(51:57):
then, um, they sent, they evensent out like uh, kind of people
to come out on site to do kindof like survey on site to see,
you know, make sure that theyhave everything, and all they
needed to do was to get a stakein it, you know, in the ground.
And then, you, they realizedthey would hit concrete, but
they didn't do that, so they hadto redesign the whole plumbing.
That took about a month toredesign the whole plumbing.
And, uh, then they came out andran the plumbing and it was uh,
(52:19):
um, you know, it was kind oflike disappointing, cause it's
like you're the one that did thewhole entire place.
And so they were, they weretrying to fault it on the
previous contractors thatactually built the place, saying
, well, they went off of theplans, and whether that's true
or not, I can't prove it,whatever, but you know that that
led to some delays.
And then we had the hurricanesthere's a couple of hurricanes,
(52:40):
so there was mandatoryevacuations.
So you know that, that we lostfour weeks off of that, and then
in south tampa in south tampa,yeah, and then, um, after that,
uh, you know, then there was theholidays, right.
So you know, no one, no onereally works, even in the city
or whatever what's a holiday,exactly.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (52:59):
I'm
like what the?
Chris Walters (53:00):
heck, you know
happy holidays, so, so no one
wanted to work during theholidays, so, uh, then, that you
know was more delays, and uh,so I guess, yeah, one piece of
advice is you know, patience andwhatever, whatever time that
you think it takes, multiply itby two, multiply it by three,
but but that's what you have todo, you have to have patience
(53:21):
and, and you know, if you reallywant something and something is
really your dream, you justhave to keep on fighting for it.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (53:26):
Now
let me ask you a question.
You guys have probably signed alease for the space, correct,
right?
And then you said the landlordhelped you with half.
Now do you have to pay the rentwhile the construction is going
on?
No, thank God, Because thatwould be pretty tragic, in my
(53:48):
opinion right, because you'renot generating revenue, why
would you have to pay?
Chris Walters (53:50):
Exactly so.
So we had a pretty good broker,thankfully, um that that helped
us go back and forth andnegotiate the lease, because
first it was like no, we're notgoing to do anything for you,
this is, if you want the space,go ahead and build it up
yourself.
And then we're like, no, thatdoesn't work and it's been
sitting on on the market for awhile.
So, um, one of the terms thatthat we had was, yeah, we're not
(54:11):
going to pay any rent untilthis is a hundred percent done,
until we open, you know.
So that's, the language is inthere until we open, um, which
was really good, because that'syeah that's another.
that's another key to thisHaving a good broker Exactly,
make sure you have stuff inwriting because you don't know
what's going to come around andbite you.
For instance, there's three orfour garage doors and each
(54:36):
garage door has these windowpanels.
Well, guess what?
The paper that's been on thewindow panels for so long?
For a year and a half, twoyears, because it was built in
2022.
So two years, almost two and ahalf a brand new building brand
new building but since it gotbaked into the, the plastic, so
because the sun, so they can'trip it off, because when they
(54:57):
rip it off it just leans thefilm.
So they tried like crazy stuff,they tried like aviator, like
cleaner, they tried all thedifferent types of steam clean,
it just doesn't come off theyshould just put fucking glass on
there exactly.
Yeah, so one of the things thatwe're we're going through now,
uh, is that like, okay, well,now they probably have to
replace all the the plastic, youknow, fifteen thousand dollars
(55:18):
later for them, you know,because it's on their their
plate.
So, um, but thankfully we haveit in the lease, because they're
like are you going to open?
And we're like, are you goingto replace the glass?
Because we've had that languagein there that says everything
needs to be done before we open.
So if we didn't have that inthere, then it would be like,
well, you have to open.
Too bad, you know, like this isthis is, you know we're going
(55:39):
to do it.
When we do it, it's eightmonths later, nine months later.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (55:41):
You
want to shout out broker, cause
this guy sounds like a brilliant.
Chris Walters (55:44):
Yeah, yeah, he's
a with a.
He's his name is Brian Callahanand he's with a Bay street
commercial.
So, you know, he he's the onethat really kind of navigated
through everything and we, wewere really just about to pull
out of the deal and just aboutto pull out of the deal because
they didn't want to.
You know, do it.
It's way too.
We, we had like two or threegeneral contractors on site and
(56:07):
they said this thing is going tobe way too expensive.
So he's, he actually was theone that said, hey, you know,
ask them and, and you know,shout out to my wife too.
She's the one that's like whydon't you ask them to just do
the vanilla shell?
I'm like I don't know ifthey'll go for that.
So we, you know, we asked thebroker that and he like, yeah,
yeah, I can ask them that.
So luckily, the, the um, thelandlord was like, okay, sure,
(56:29):
we can do the whole vanillashell for you, we'll do.
You know, everything we'll giveyou, you know, vanilla show.
So when, when you get property,sometimes, you, you get a gray
shell which is literally there'sdirt on the ground, there's, uh
, you know, there's four walls,but there's no drywall on it
there, there's no AC there's noelectrical properties, are
people build them out?
(56:49):
Exactly, and so, and then avanilla shell is at least you
have four walls, you haveeverything that you need to
whatever to put in the space.
So it's basically up to you tocome in, put in the countertops,
put in any more electrical thatyou need, put in your, your,
any any additional plumbing thatthat you need, but at least
there's four walls there,there's a concrete slab, there's
flooring down, you know.
(57:11):
So that's, that's thedifference.
And in, like you said, a lot ofthese places, even on water
street, they were delivered on,you know a gray shell where it's
literally dirt on the ground,and you had to do the concrete
slab and you had to do this andthat and uh, so yeah, it's a.
It was a really big negotiationfor them to be like okay, we'll
, we'll give you a vanilla shell, and, and that saved a lot, of,
a lot of money in the long termthe least.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (57:33):
These
landlords really want you to
open this.
Yeah, I mean yeah they are.
Chris Walters (57:38):
They are like
calling me every single day,
saying hey when you think you'regoing to open, hey when you're
going to think you're open, anduh let's also be mindful of the
of the landlord.
Sean Febre & Manny Febr (57:47):
They're
losing money as well because
exactly no, go fuck, they're notlosing money because there's
apartment Okay.
Chris Walters (57:57):
Yeah, there's
apartments.
They're profitable.
They're profitable, I get it.
I get it.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (58:00):
But at
the same time, they want you to
be successful.
Chris Walters (58:03):
I forgot, I left
out a crucial part of the story.
Is that, um, another reason why?
Another reason why it took solong is because, in in the
middle of our, our deal, andright when we signed the deal,
um, they are we unbeknownst tous.
They sold the original landlord, sold the whole entire
apartment complex with our storein in the deal, even though it
(58:25):
wasn't built yet, to a newcompany, to a new, a new, uh
managing.
Yeah.
So so the reason why it alsotook so long is because the new
people had no freaking clue whatthe heck we were doing, you
know.
So, in one hand wasn't reallytalking to the other.
So, um, they actually, you know, took a month to be like, okay,
what are they doing, what do weneed to pay for?
(58:46):
Cause that was on their plate,right, like, okay, here's the
deal, okay, now it's on yourplate, this is your contract.
You know, you have to followthrough with, with this and pay
for the whatever's left, likethe drywall and and the
(59:12):
electrical and everything else.
And so they were like no, youknow, they were not.
They were left in the darkconcerning, like, what they need
to pay for and stuff.
So they had contractualobligations, exactly, yeah, yeah
, which, actually, which, whichyou know it helped us out in the
long term because we didn'tknow that and that we didn't
know that was going out in thebackground.
So we were negotiating with the,with the old landlord, and
we're like this is not going towork for us.
And they were like well, whatdo you need?
And I'm like and so we, wedidn't even know.
Then we're like, wow, we got alot of concessions from them and
we had no cool why.
But it was because our thewhole deal was tied to to tingle
(59:35):
brew and you know this, thisunit, commercial unit.
That they were saying, hey,your commercial unit is going
with this package.
So that's why they were like,oh yeah, we need to do whatever
you need to do to get this dealdone.
And so after the fact we'relike, oh, that makes sense, you
know that's why they werebeneficial to all the residents.
Right.
Sean Febre & Manny Febr (59:55):
Because
it is.
Is it apartments or condos?
Chris Walters (59:57):
They're.
They're apartments.
Most of the apartments thereare are by a UT students, so so
their, so the rental units, thestudents.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:00:05):
They
need somewhere to go.
They don't want to walk far.
Right, right, they could justgo downstairs, go into Tango,
brew Right, eat some empanadas,drink some wine, get high on
some coffee.
Chris Walters (01:00:15):
Did they give you
?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:00:16):
did
they want like a prediction on
revenues.
Chris Walters (01:00:20):
Yeah, that would
be, that would.
Yeah, so that would be.
The second point is um, youknow, you know your business
plan, chat gtp, shout out tojack ttp, so they ttp yeah, gtp,
gpt, gpt, gpt.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:00:33):
Yeah,
damn, now you got me saying I
know that's okay, whatever gpbut.
But shout out shout out to that, yeah, yeah yeah, because they.
Chris Walters (01:00:46):
They came out
with them because I had no clue
how to write this stuff and Ihad ideas in my mind and then
they wanted projections.
You're telling me a doctorcan't write a business plan?
No, well, they don't teach usthat.
I know you're fucking around,but that's so true though.
It's so true, no, no, no, it'sso true, so true, and that's why
many doctors are amazing.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:01:05):
That's
a whole nother thing.
But no, that's a whole, notherthing.
Chris Walters (01:01:07):
But that's why
most doctors fail is because
they don't.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:01:10):
They
don't teach they have their own
practice, but they don't teachany marketing, so they they fail
, you know.
Chris Walters (01:01:17):
Or business, yeah
, so they fail because they
don't understand the overheadand what they need to do.
So, um, yeah, it was a.
It was a big learning curve.
But but to your point, it'sabout who you know, who you're
who, who you have connectionswith.
Thankfully, I I got in touchwith this person who's an
accountant, but they do a lot ofprojections too, based off the
area, and I'm sure it's a bunchof software you know that helps,
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but it's based off the area andyou know what historical
historical data otherrestaurants that are similar
Exactly.
And, and so we had to submitthat with our business plan.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:01:53):
Uh, in
order to in order to get
approved, for you know our, ourproject.
Can we ask you what you expectyour revenue?
I don't know, I think.
I think they're gonna kill it Iknow I love the name.
I love, I love the, I love thelogo and I just think that in
that area there with theapartments above.
People are going to go there.
They're going to get shit faced.
So what were your projections?
Chris Walters (01:02:11):
they projected in
in revenue uh 500 000 within
the within the first year andthen they project uh one, one
million in the second year anduh two million in this in the in
the third year.
It was actually funny that yousay that, because whatever
program that he was using, he Isaid I want to project it out to
like year five and he actuallysent me hey, I had to tamper
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this number down a little bit inyear four or five because you
know, I don't know if it'sunrealistic, but this is what
the you know the projector.
Yeah, yeah, he's like I had totemper it down because this is
just way too crazy, because itkept on.
You know 2xing, you know thethe revenue, which which is okay
, but, um, to that point, that's, if we do nothing right, like
if we don't offer full liquor,if we don't change our menu, if
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we don't offer any more services, that's might what's going to
be.
But, like you always have to beexpanding, adding some new
stuff in there.
You know, um, adding new,adding new offerings and stuff
like that.
So it's uh, it's not static.
You know, like five years we,we hope to have this whole
different animal than it isright now ask you in the area,
is there anything similar?
(01:03:18):
yeah, yeah.
So, um, one thing we gotnervous is about like right down
the street there's buddy brew,uh, but it's their, their river.
Sean Febre & Manny Feb (01:03:25):
Actually
my steve are the yeah, steve
empowerment no, no it's athlete,empowerment, athletic or agency
?
Chris Walters (01:03:40):
sorry, steve, I
always make the name easier.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:03:43):
Make
the name easier, but he was just
telling me about buddy brewyeah, yeah.
Chris Walters (01:03:47):
So so buddy brew
is a yeah, not not to advertise
them too much yeah exactly, butbut they, they have a is local
in tampa, they're a coffee shop.
They have like three or fourlocations in tampa and uh, so,
but it's just a productionfacility.
So actually, actually, um, they, they roast the beans right
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there and they have a bigexhaust coming out of their, of
their head, right, and guesswhat?
We're right next to them.
So people are walking bysmelling coffee, smelling the
coffee, free advertising for us,cause they don't actually sell
the coffee and I hope thisdoesn't bite me in the ass, but
they don't sell the coffee yet.
Hopefully they don't.
But they don't sell the coffeeyet.
Hopefully they don't.
But they don't sell any coffeethere.
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So it's just a productionfacility.
So when people are walking down, they smell the coffee, they
get hungry and and hopefullythey'll, you know, come to us.
And as far as like wine,there's no like wine places by
the the closest you know bartype feel is like in in soho
ceviche high park area.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:04:45):
Also
the quality pastries and tapas
that you're going to have there.
There's not a lot of placesthat are going to have that.
I would the argentinian orspanish style, where people love
empanadas, people love choripan, that they fucking never have
that shit I love that shit.
Yeah, you know they're gonna.
I mean, I think you guys aregonna do absolutely fantastic.
Chris Walters (01:05:06):
Thank you, yeah
there's a it a.
It's a really mixed bag.
It's kind of strange becausethere's, you know, we got the UT
students, but then we also haveall these Spanish people, you
know, speak, writing us, youknow, in Spanish, and saying,
hey, you know, I can't find anyArgentinian place around that
has dirty pan, that has, youknow, argentinian empanadas,
(01:05:26):
that have this and that havethat.
Um, alpha whores like, I reallywant to try your place.
So, even even from like allaround, they're like you know,
there's no, there's no placelocal like this that that offers
this.
So, uh, it's.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:05:37):
It's
kind of a really interesting
avatar about who we're going tosell and I, and I think another
thing too, chris, is that youalso forget about the nightlife.
I mean, this place could berented out.
Chris Walters (01:05:47):
You met your wife
guys I want to do one more
segment yeah, okay, becausewe're already over and I just
reset the clock.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:05:56):
All
right guys, we'll be right back
with happy hour.
Holidays with mr christophernorman walters leave the norman
out.
Chris Walters (01:06:03):
Leave the Norman
out.
No, no, no.
This motherfucker called meDavid.
This motherfucker called meDavid.
But the last thing I wanted tosay is and we'll be right back,
and we'll be right back.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:06:12):
All
right, guys, we're back with
Happy Hour, holidays, and wewere kind of talking about
another concept with that,because Chris met his wife
dancing right Uh-huh.
He was like listen, man, I gotthe moves I definitely, I don't
know.
Chris Walters (01:06:27):
It was a dancing
studio, so I was trying to learn
the moves.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:06:30):
My
friend, I was trying to learn
the moves, but he knew the movesin other ways.
Yeah, exactly.
Chris Walters (01:06:34):
You know he was
the Chippendale dancer.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:06:36):
We
used to call him the 15-footer
15-footer, 15-footer, hecouldn't walk without knocking
his knees.
But but uh, no, we're, we're.
I mean, in essence, tango brew.
Yeah, we talked about theprocess.
Talk, highlight the food, thedrinks, the coffee.
What exactly are you bringingto that area?
(01:06:58):
What is tango brew?
Chris Walters (01:07:00):
yeah so.
So tango brew, um, especiallylike the, the, the brew part is
not only highlighting coffee,but um, we also having beer
offerings to about eight uhbeers on draft a local from, uh,
you know, unholy uh tohighlight in cigar city.
So we want to highlight shoutout joey redner?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:07:22):
yeah,
we want to.
We had them on the pocket, oh,very good so we want want to
highlight local breweries too.
Chris Walters (01:07:30):
And plus, your
go-to is like Yingling, so we
have a lot of bottles forYingling and things like that.
We're also doing coffee, too,and a lot of signature coffee
products.
That we're doing as well.
Yeah, bustelo, bustelo.
Well, we actually Café conleche, café con leche, café con
leche.
Yeah, we get our coffee fromBrisk, which is local.
It's a local Ybor coffeeroaster.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:07:59):
Well,
I assume so, because it is Not
to be stereotypical, but it isin Ybor.
Chris Walters (01:08:02):
If you trace it
long enough, it'll probably lead
back.
No but we get our coffee from.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:08:07):
Briss.
Chris Walters (01:08:09):
So we're doing a
lot of coffee.
So what we're trying to come upwith is hey, come to us in the
morning when you need to pick meup when you're going to school
how early, 7 am, 7 am.
And so come to us for thecoffee in the morning and then,
when you need a kind of a winddown at night, uh, maybe in the
afternoon after dinner or, youknow, a lot of people are doing
(01:08:30):
wines for for lunch.
Now, working from home no, we,we wanted to make sure,
especially with the, with thestudents that are by, and the
young, you know, workingindividuals.
We're, we're having as manyoutlets as we can um, in the bar
, at the booth.
There's outlets too that youcould plug into, because I'm
sure you've been yeah, I'm sureyou've been to some of these
(01:08:51):
coffee places and everyone'sfighting over this one table
because it has there's the onlyone with the outlet so you need
to charge, like free wi-fi andshit yeah, free wi-fi.
Yeah, free wi-fi, of course, anduh, we're hoping it would be
like a third place that peoplecan go to, um, um, kind of like
Starbucks kind of kind of yeah,but they, they, they kind of
went away from that, you know,and now they're kind of like a
(01:09:12):
fast food get it done, here'syour coffee, see you later.
So we're trying to uh revampthat and bring it back where
people can come to us just tostudy, do we?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:09:22):
even
have meetings, meetings, yeah,
what kind of amenities are wetalking about here?
Because, you've named quite afew amenities already.
Chris Walters (01:09:30):
Yeah, yeah.
So, along with the Wi-Fi, wehave this projector, this huge
projector that goes onto one ofour walls.
That we have, and it's kind ofa feature of us that we're going
to have, um, you know, tangomusic playing and in the
background we're going to havetours in 4k of Buenos Aires and
(01:09:52):
Argentina with tango musicplaying, uh, where we're
Argentinian and Italian.
So we're also going to have,you know, 4k tours of, like, uh,
italy and Rome and Venice, um,that that is, you know, going to
go through the streets andstuff, why there's Italian music
playing.
We're also looking at having,to your point, meetings there
(01:10:13):
where you can actually rent outthe space to have meetings there
, cause we have a huge projectoron the wall, and not only our
own meetings, but if you want todo a meeting there, we're more
than happy to host that.
We're doing wine tastings aswell, private wine events.
Uh, we have a sommelier thatthat's working with us right now
that picked out and handpickedour wine list, um, sommelier
(01:10:39):
yeah, I'm still.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:10:40):
I'm
still trying to drink your wine
yeah, yeah, exactly Freeprostate exams.
With every flight of wine.
With every flight of wine, freeprostate exams.
If you come in there I'll takea look at your dick.
Yeah, exactly, Exactly.
Free prescription with everyyeah, exactly.
Chris Walters (01:10:58):
Yeah, so we're
having that.
Touching on the food.
Touching on the food, talkingabout cherry pan, cherry pan,
cherry pan, cherry pan, I'llshow.
Touching on the food, talkingabout cherry pond, cherry pond
I'll show you my cherry pond.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:11:11):
I'll
be the first one to fucking be
in line for this shit.
You know what a cherry pondlooks like a dick in a butthole
it could be a dick in a vagina.
You were talking about fingersin buttholes.
No, that was you, that wasliterally you, he likes the
buttholes.
He almost died crying, laughingoh yeah, that's true why
(01:11:33):
couldn't I have known?
Chris Walters (01:11:34):
I know he was
like damn, I missed my
opportunity, exactly, exactly,yeah, but we have.
We have argentine empanadas,flatbreads, paninis, salads, of
course, but we also, forbreakfast, we have a whole bunch
of breakfast sandwiches.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:11:53):
Oh
cool For brunch right.
Chris Walters (01:11:55):
For brunch, yeah,
and breakfast we have
medialunas, which are thesecroissant-shaped.
They're basically likecroissants, but with a little
Argentinian flair, becausethey're sweeter, more buttery,
like chimichurri in there, well,no, so it's kind of like you
can actually put ham and cheeseinside of it.
Some people like to put kind oflike this pastry, like from a
(01:12:18):
cake, inside of it to guava yeah, dulce de leche.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:12:24):
Oh
yeah, dulce de leche, dulce,
dulce de leche.
Chris Walters (01:12:27):
Oh yeah, Dulce de
leche.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:12:27):
Dulce,
dulce de leche.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chris Walters (01:12:31):
Dulce de leche,
speaking like an American?
Yeah, exactly, dulce de leche.
But yeah, you could actuallyput the dulce de leche inside of
it, and so that's one of thethings that we're excited about
too, Are you guys?
Going to have specials, yeah,yeah, so we were.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:12:48):
That's
one of the things that we're
excited about too.
Are you guys going to havespecials?
Yeah, yeah, what I mean?
Like a chef specials type, shit, yeah, yeah.
Chris Walters (01:12:52):
So what we teamed
up with our sommelier is like a
.
Sean Febre & Manny Fe (01:12:56):
Sommelier
, Sommelier is, you know
whatever.
Chris Walters (01:13:02):
I'm white as hell
.
Sean Febre & Manny Fe (01:13:05):
Sommelier
is French.
I'm white as hell.
Chris Walters (01:13:07):
Somali is French.
Yeah, we teamed up with her andshe's going to be helping us
with pairing the wine with thedifferent food options that we
have.
Obviously, you can't do a lotof things that are, you know,
with reds that are too spicy,because it will just bring out
that spiciness, and it's allabout pairing the wines with the
food that we have.
So we're really excited aboutthat.
(01:13:28):
Is it just going to beArgentinian wine?
It's Argentinian, so we'reArgentinian-Italian fusion.
And the reason why not a lot ofpeople know, but a lot of the
people that are Argentinian,their background is Italian.
So a lot of Italians immigratedto Argentina After the Second
World War world war yeah, yeah.
(01:13:48):
So they, they have actuallytheir, what they eat, their diet
as actually very italian, veryeuropean, versus, you know,
maybe, the rest of uh southamerica, and they have, uh, you
know, polenta, they have, like,you know, crescent, they have
croissants that are the middlemedialunas, and they have a lot
of different, you know, dietarythings that they love in their
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culture that actually dates backto italian.
So we have to kind of like, doa nod to that.
We're also featuring italianwines as well.
So so we're really heavy on theitalian wines, other artitane
wines, but we also have winesfrom different other regions too
spain, new zealand, australia,germany.
So we, we give a nod to thoseplaces too, but since we're, you
know, italian, other regions toSpain, new Zealand, australia,
germany.
So we, we give a nod to thoseplaces too, but since we're, you
(01:14:31):
know, italian, argentinianfusion, we are, you know, mostly
heavily on those two differenttypes of wines.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:14:38):
Any
American wines?
Does America even have one?
Well, california Napa Valley.
Chris Walters (01:14:42):
Sonoma, napa
Valley yeah, we're, so we're
having a lot of wines fromCalifornia too, but we're we're
really, you know, focusing on onthose two places.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:14:53):
So
then you're going to have a soft
opening and then a grandopening, right, right.
So what?
What do you picture for thesoft opening?
Is that just like family andfriends, or is it anybody's
invited, or how does that work?
Chris Walters (01:15:05):
Yeah, so
fortunately we've been marketing
really hard for a loyalty listor loyal to customers that
subscribe to us and get updates,and so, as kind of a nod to
them and a thank you, we areinviting them for our soft
opening and really marketing toonly them and since they're so
passionate about us opening andthey've been waiting so long,
(01:15:31):
they get to be the first ones toexperience the the Tango brew
concept and the Tango brewexperience.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:15:35):
And uh
, so you know they cause they've
been waiting so long yeah.
Chris Walters (01:15:37):
Yeah, so they.
So they're, they're coming outuh and and being the first ones
to tell us how, how they like itand how you know what we need
to improve on before the grandopening.
So, thankfully, we got about200 subscribers so far, of those
just patiently waiting,emailing us hey, are you guys
(01:15:59):
open yet?
And unfortunately, we we'vebeen having some delays, so
we've been emailing them, tryingto keep them in the loop as
much as we can, giving them, youknow, coupons and things like
that, to say I'm sorry, thankyou for waiting.
Um, so once we have, uh, abouttwo or three weeks of the soft
opening, then we plan on having,uh, the grand opening.
Um, and we're, we're planningon having a live music there in
the grand opening.
Uh, you know, take winetastings, of course, uh, free
(01:16:22):
food, raffles, giveaways, giftcard giveaways, um're, we're
partnering with, uh, creativelofting.
Yeah two yeah low fee, low fee.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:16:32):
Sorry,
I'm just fucking up all these
times today no, yeah, um babydown the uh no, but uh uh yeah,
so we're, we're having, we'refeaturing a lot of things too
like now is everybody going tobe uh able to come to the grand
opening?
Chris Walters (01:16:47):
Yeah, yeah, we're
.
We're inviting everybody to thegrand opening.
We're we're going to, you know,heavily market it once we, once
we get a really good date down,that we know that.
You know we were going to haveeverything prepared.
Are we thinking March?
We're, yeah, we're thinkingthat probably most likely, if
not at the end of March, earlyApril.
What we don't want to do is dolike a bait and switch where we
(01:17:08):
say a date but then it getsmoved and it gets moved, and it
gets moved again.
We sent out, actually, a GoogleForms sheet where we said are
you interested in attending?
And we sent it to all of oursubscribers just to get a kind
of a feel of a headcount.
Very unofficial, very informal,and most of them said so.
We got very informal and mostof them, you know, said you know
, so we got 200 people and andmost of them responded you know
(01:17:30):
it's like latinos families right, so it's not just one person
that they're bringing it's fivedifferent people
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:17:36):
10
different people so they can
only fit 90 though yeah, and wecan only fit 90, so I mean, is
it going to be restricted to aheadcount?
Chris Walters (01:17:44):
I don't know.
I I hope that many, that manypeople come out, but if we need
bouncers I'll call you.
So I don't know.
That's going to be very, veryinteresting.
We hope to have that manypeople.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:17:56):
Is it
going to be like an evening
event during the day?
Chris Walters (01:17:59):
Yeah, we're
trying to have it on.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:18:02):
Like a
Friday at fucking 8 o'clock.
Chris Walters (01:18:04):
Yeah, so a little
bit about our hours.
Friday at fucking 8 o'clock.
Yeah, so a little bit about ourhours.
First we're doing Mondaythrough Thursday, 7 to 3.
And then Friday, saturday,sunday we're going to be open
all day, from 7 am to 10 pm.
So we're looking to have thegrand opening on a Friday so
people can come and experiencelive music.
(01:18:26):
Friday, um, so people can comeand experience, you know, live
music.
Uh, you know the wanting.
We want to make sure they enjoythe wines make sure they they
talk to our sommelier and uhsommelier you're doing it on
purpose now I think he is.
I think he is.
I like to get him going.
He's gonna need a prostate examafter this.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:18:45):
He'll
enjoy it too much.
Chris Walters (01:18:49):
I'm only 35.
I don't need it Exactly,exactly.
So yeah, it's definitely goingto be on a Friday.
We're hoping to invite themayor as well.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:18:56):
Jane
Castor.
Chris Walters (01:18:57):
Jane Castor.
She RSVP'd, but only yeah, sowe had to reschedule her.
So hopefully, once we reach outback to her, Like Christine
Edwards.
Yeah, christine Edwards, yeah.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:19:10):
She's
a newly investiture judge in
Hillsborough County Circuit 13.
Chris Walters (01:19:15):
Right, there you
go, there you go.
So we're inviting her out.
But again, that's why we wantto solid date.
Because you can't mess aroundwith Jane Castor.
She has too much shit to do.
Every day she's over here, overthere, everywhere.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:19:32):
My
advice would be probably to wait
until the soft opening and then, after you have like a week or
two of soft opening, then have ahard grand opening.
Chris Walters (01:19:43):
Yeah, that's the
plan.
As soon as we get our softopening done, that date's coming
out, are we?
Invited, Chris.
Of course you're invited.
Of course I don't believe it.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:19:51):
On the
back of the line.
On the back of the line Back ofthe line You're back of the bus
boy Watch it, watch it.
Yeah, well, we're.
Chris Walters (01:20:02):
Going back to the
black ice over here, going back
to the black ice over here.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:20:06):
Well,
all that white snow, yeah,
exactly.
Chris Walters (01:20:09):
Exactly no.
No, of course, I'll have achoripan lined up for you, my
choripan is going to be lined upfor you.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:20:18):
It
seems like you're really excited
about it.
Chris Walters (01:20:20):
Yeah, yeah, I'm
very excited.
It's been a long time coming.
It's one of those things thatit's been waiting so long that
you don't think it's going tohappen.
It's kind of like, oh okay,whatever.
But I know that once it happensit's going to be like, holy
shit, we open tomorrow, or holyshit, we're open, and it's going
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to be like one of those thatyou feel like it takes so long,
takes long, takes long.
We're.
We're really excited about it.
We're we're trying toanticipate everything that we
can and put all the fires thatwe can and make sure that we we
have a how can they get on yoursubscriber list?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:20:56):
how
can they find you, chris?
Chris Walters (01:20:57):
yeah, so we, we
have a.
You know my website, tangobrewcom.
We have our instagram, tangobrew, tampa.
Um, you can either follow thelink on the instagram or you can
visit our website, tangobrewcom, and there's a
subscriber link right at thebottom are you on facebook?
we're on facebook, uh, we're.
We're not on tiktok yet, uh,but we, we plan to be.
(01:21:20):
Um, if you sign up through oursubscriber program, either on
instagram or tango brewcom,you'll instantly get a send a 20
off coupon and you'll getreally cool offerings like
discounts.
You'll know when the next wineevents are any memberships any
members.
We are exploring memberships um, so we're gonna, we're rolling
out to see what we can do.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:21:41):
Kind
of like a cooper's hawk yeah.
Chris Walters (01:21:43):
So we're actually
looking to combine coffee and
wine memberships.
So you know, kind of a basictier is coffee and another basic
tier is only wine.
Then you can upgrade and getcoffee and wine and all the way
up to you know X amount ofservings per wine when you come,
or servings per coffee when youcome a month, a month.
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So we're exploring that option.
We want to make sure that wehave it really clear.
We don't want people to come upand be like, hey, you know, I,
I, I'm due for another, you knowa free coffee or whatever this
time and we want to and we don'thave it in the system.
So we want to make sure thateverything is is built out right
.
We don't want you to come inand you see that as half baked.
So we want to make sure that wehave all our ducks in a row
before we roll out thesubscription program.
(01:22:28):
But it's in the computer,everything's there.
We just want to make sure thatwe have it all together before
we roll it out.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:22:34):
This
is 20 years in the making.
Chris Walters (01:22:36):
Yeah, and let me
say this who would have thought?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:22:39):
I
would have thought it.
No, no, no not you, I'm sayingall of us here.
You, I'm saying all of us here.
I know neighbors and we're allentrepreneurs.
Chris Walters (01:22:51):
Now, yeah, and it
brings me back to the to the
paul rudd me that I was gonnasay, yeah, where's the, where's
the chicken?
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:22:55):
who
would have thought look at us.
Look at us.
Who would have?
Chris Walters (01:22:58):
thought yeah, I
gotta get some chicken and I got
me.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:23:00):
Hey,
chris, whenever you start
selling those shirts, I want oneof those shirts.
I'll buy it.
I'll give you one.
Chris Walters (01:23:06):
You both get one.
Yeah, dude, I like that.
Extra small for you, rightDouble XL.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:23:13):
I mean
, we have come a long way and
it's wild from playing footballin the streets tackle on the
grass, two-hand touch on theasphalt.
Chris Walters (01:23:23):
It's a whole
five-hand touch for you, my
friend.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:23:25):
Oh,
wait a minute.
Chris Walters (01:23:27):
I ain't five dude
.
What are you talking about?
That's not what I'm talkingabout.
Five-hand touch.
No, he's not, he is.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:23:31):
No,
I'm not, I'm just kidding.
We're talking about Rosie andher five fingers.
Hey, no chodi pop for you, dog.
No chodi pop for you.
Chris Walters (01:23:42):
No, I agree, kind
of like what I was going to say
From neighbors to colleagues.
Sean Febre & Manny Febr (01:23:46):
Exactly
, yeah, I think it's.
Chris Walters (01:23:48):
You know, your,
your.
Your dad was always like youknow, you got to go to school.
You got to pursue yourengineering.
You got to pursue your drafting, your architect and design.
You got to get into school.
This is your life and it's allkind of planned out for you.
Same, yeah, same, with my dad.
He was like you know, this is,this is what's planned out for
you.
You're going to go to a, youknow, phcc or Pasco Nantucket
(01:24:09):
state college.
Now you're going to go to USF.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:24:14):
You're
going to be a doctor.
This is what you know.
Everything's predetermined,yeah, yeah.
Chris Walters (01:24:17):
But, but at the
same time, like you know, we
make your own path.
Yeah, yeah, you gotta make yourown.
You to make your own way andeven though you get paid very
well and stuff like that, maybeyour life is comfortable.
If you don't feel it, if youactually see something more in
yourself, you really need topursue that because you don't
want to look at 70 years old andyou're like what did I do?
(01:24:38):
What did I do for myself?
What did I do?
What dreams did I carry out?
I carried out my parents'dreams.
I didn't carry out my dreams.
So I think it's really importantto if there's something that
you really really want and itmaybe it's not something that
your parents want for you, yourfriend group, but it's something
that you really want and you'relike you know what?
I'm okay right now.
I'm okay where I'm at right now, but, uh, you know, like you
(01:25:01):
know, spiritually you're, you'rekind of like dying inside.
I think you should reallyconsider pursuing that, you know
, because you don't want to lookback when you're, when you're
70, and think, oh man, you knowthere's so much stuff I can do
and I didn't ever pursue it sowhen the fuck did you become so
wise?
dude, I'll tell you somethingwithout telling without telling
(01:25:22):
chris the final, yeah, the finalwords.
You did the final words.
I had a times final words.
He did the final words.
He did the final words A lot oftimes, man.
Yeah, it's been absolutely Dude.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:25:31):
It's
been absolutely awesome having
you Catching up For theChristopher Walters show
Christopher Walters story.
It's been fantastic.
I love the Christopher Waltersshow Tangle Brew.
We're so excited about itopening.
We're going to freaking blastit out to every place, have
every contact that we know tomake sure they blast it out on
their Instagram.
(01:25:51):
Yeah, and we're going to haveJoe and Cliff spotlight this guy
.
Chris Walters (01:25:53):
I'm going to the
grand opening.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:25:55):
if I'm
invited, I'm going to sign up
for the soft opening so I canhave the chori pad and the
empanadas.
We're freaking excited.
Chris, thank you so much forcoming on.
Chris Walters (01:26:05):
And thanks for
the bottle of wine.
Oh, you're welcome.
Thank you for having us on.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:26:09):
And I
can tell you that.
I am so proud of you, you know,proud of all of us, but really
proud of Chris, you know, goingfrom pothead smoker guitarist
Definitely.
Chris Walters (01:26:23):
Definitely my
dad's watching.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:26:27):
That's
not what I was going to say,
because chris really didn'tsmoke pot ever.
Chris Walters (01:26:30):
I mean I was the
one that was.
He was the pot.
Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:26:32):
There
we go, yeah so, but no, I'm, I'm
proud of, I'm proud of you gladto know yeah, glad to know
you're so proud of you to openup this new uh, you know tapas
kind of coffee and wine I meantango brew is going to be a hit.
We know it's going to kill it.
I'm going to be there all thetime and you guys should, too,
(01:26:53):
love it.
Thank you for coming on happyhour holidays.
Keep it moving forward,appreciate the support and you
guys, go out there and fuckingnever quit, because when you
quit you could have so muchtalent and so much prosperity,
but when you quit, that all dies.
Don't ever quit.
We're out.
Chris Walters (01:27:11):
Peace out Like
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