S2 E31 | Rob Goetz's Torpedo Bats and Tush Pushes: Sports Talk with a Florida Business Owner - Happy Hour Holidaze

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Sean Febre & Manny Febr (00:00):
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We want everybody to go outthere and make your dreams come
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owners of Paradise Flooring, robGetz.

Rob Goetz (00:19):
What's up, rob?
Happy to be here.
Yes, and not toot my own hornGo, rays Go.

Sean Febre & Manny Febre (00:23):
Rays.

Rob Goetz (00:23):
You know I root for the Rays I've always liked the
Rays, but being a PinellasCounty resident my whole life,
and what they just did to thecity of St Petersburg and to
Pinellas County, playing thosegames, and they exploited a
hurricane so they could move.

We'll see what happens, but if you
think about it, I mean, it waskind of in the calling of what
they decided to do, because alot of people said well, if you
come to Tampa, then you're goingto have a higher attendance
rate.
Is that true though?
Well, we, it's a smallerstadium, it's a larger team.

Rob Goetz (00:53):
March 28th, they're already not selling out games,
the second game of the year.
You know my buddy's sittingbehind the dugout last night for
like $200.
I mean, but first week.
And here's the thing aboutTampa.
So it's a hockey town, it's afootball town Even look at
baseball.
You talk about Cuban.
If you guys go down to Miami,they've won two World Series.

They play in Little Havana.

Rob Goetz (01:15):
Yeah, and nobody goes to those games.
It's one of the nicest stadiumsretractable roof, because
there's other things to do inFlorida in the summertime.
So St Pete to me was a greatspot because it's a real up and
coming trendy area.
But the only thing I didn'tlike is the whole here to stay.
We're staying around Becausethey explored Tampa and they
explored Ybor City.

Nobody gave them what they wanted.
So my whole thing with that is,what you have to see is a lot
of people that live in Floridaare transplants.
I mean, your first team isn'teven the race.

Rob Goetz (01:45):
No, I'm a Yankee fan.
I grew up in Florida because wedidn't get a team here until
I'm 15.

But you see that I mean even growing
up in Florida, you're still nota first team race fan.
Same thing with Miami.
I mean Miami.
A lot of those people are fromNew York.

Rob Goetz (01:58):
Look at Vince.

Serrano with the Mets.

Rob Goetz (02:02):
That's how it is, because I always knew one day
they could leave.
They've been playing thestadium game for 20 years.
You know, I remember they weregoing to do a sailboat stadium
down at St Pete and there was astudy years ago when people used
to read the newspaper about thelocation of the stadium
actually being the best centrallocation for you know, manatee.

County when Tropicana is.

Rob Goetz (02:22):
Where Tropicana is was the best spot.

But now think about it this way you
got to go over the Skyway.
If you're in Manatee County,you got to go over Howard
Franklin which now they improvedto get to downtown St Pete in
order to even go watch one.
Now, with the what is it?
The Tampa St Pete Ferry, maybeyou'll get some Tampa fans, but
now that they have a centrallocation, in my opinion, for

(02:45):
just Tampa fans.

Rob Goetz (02:46):
Yeah, yeah, in.

Sean Febre & Manny (02:47):
Steinbrenner Field.

Rob Goetz (02:48):
Maybe let's see I'm anxious to see it's on Tampa
right now it's Tampa Bay, thoughwe got to remember that.
So a central location for StPete.

Sean Febre & Manny F (03:00):
Clearwater .
So are the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
I get it, but I mean at thesame time, the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers are in Tampa and theyonly got eight home games a
year, nine or 10.
If we're lucky.
This is a shit ton of games.
This is 82 games.

Rob Goetz (03:11):
You know, can you pack a stadium for 82?
Well, but, but we're alsotalking about the Tampa Bay
lightning and they have aroundwhat here at home?

yeah, I mean you're also saying that
that was the number onefranchise.
Yeah, uh, for like what?
Four or five years in a row andthey were sold out for multiple
years.
And I love the light and Iagree with you.

Rob Goetz (03:32):
It's become a cultural thing.
You go to a game on a thursdaynight it's you know all the
girls are wearing white pantsand blue shirts and it's like
it's more of a corporate thingtoo.
Like people, that's a placewhere you bring clients and
stuff.
Baseball is a different kind ofgame.
You know, hockey is like.
Most people don't know squatabout hockey but they like going
.
Most people don't know a lotabout baseball.
They probably know it, maybethey played it as a kid but they

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don't love going to those games.

You know, I mean games a year.
What's your prediction then?
But until the prediction.
But besides that, I thinkFlorida fans just suck in
general.
Yeah, they're all bandwagonpeople and even think about the
Tampa.
Bay Bucs, we can't even sellthat shit out.
I don't give a shit how manytimes they go.
You know all the season ticketsare sold out.
Well, where?

Rob Goetz (04:17):
the fuck is everybody at?

I mean you're talking about 65,000
seats man.
I sat through Jameis, Winstonand the 10-year stretch where
nobody went to those games wherethey were pathetic, and you
know.

Rob Goetz (04:29):
luckily Tom Brady's changed the culture here.
I agree, but yeah are theyselling out every game?

I don't know, probably not A
couple times a year, but they'llbe around 50,000, 55,000, you
know.

Rob Goetz (04:39):
Yeah.

Giving away 15,000 tickets for free.

Rob Goetz (04:45):
Yeah, yeah, but back to the race.
But that's more than the racewhich is like average stadium
attendance.

is what Like 12,500?

Rob Goetz (04:50):
Yeah, the thing is the TV market and that's why Rob
Manfred, the baseballcommissioner, he wants them to
stay in Tampa because they bringin, they have one of the top TV
markets.
So all these, you know a lot ofolder folks sit at home, they
watch baseball and that's what'sdrawing.
The money is the sponsorshipand the ads.
But they could have went toMontreal.
Don't think they haven'texplored all these other options

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already.
So there's a reason why theyhaven't left.
They're still under contract,but they had a plan.
A hurricane hit the city of StPete Two hurricanes.
Exactly.
And the city of St Pete saidgive us exactly.
And that the city of st petesaid give us a little breathing
room.
We had a lot of disasters here,hang on.
They came back a month laterand said all right, we'll stick
with the plan.
And the race said give us threemonths.
And then they said, no, we'renot doing it which I don't

(05:34):
disagree with man.

They're not the pinellas county race.

Rob Goetz (05:38):
They're not the same, it doesn't matter, it's the
tampa bay I get tampa bay.

But if you're not playing in where the
first word which I get is not acity, I get it's the Bay.
If you are not playing in thecity in which the Bay is named,
after, what the fuck's the point, man?

Rob Goetz (05:56):
What the fuck's the point?
Have you been to New York?
You know where the Giants andthe Jets play.
They play in the same stadium.
I'm saying right, in New Jersey, metlife.
Oh, new Jersey, and it's inJersey.

Yeah, because they probably want to
get everybody out of the city.
But when you're crossing HowardFranklin, when you're crossing
Skyway, when you're maybe taking19 down to get even close to
the stadium not to mention 5o'clock traffic and you're
bottlenecked, it makes no senseto play in Pinellas, I get that
but New.
York has to be bottlenecked too, if you're thinking about it.
Well, that's why they sent himout to motherfucking.

Rob Goetz (06:24):
Yeah.

But think about it this way In Tampa
you're not locked by bridges,because people from Orlando can
come, people from Plant City,people from Brandon, people from
Wesley Chapel, people from LuzOdessa.
So now you're making everybodywho lives in Pinellas cross the
bridges.

Rob Goetz (06:46):
Fuck, yeah, we had to do it for 15 years.
Yeah, y'all motherfuckers do itand see how great it is.
I'm excited now that it's inTampa to see, because it doesn't
bother me.
I live in Palm Harbor, soeither way, it's a half hour.

Yeah, you take Hillsboro, you take
Hillsboro.

Rob Goetz (07:00):
I want them to stay here.
I want to go to baseball games.
If it's outside, I don't care.
Look, I went to Wrigley Stadiumlast year in June and it was
hot as hell.
That's in Chicago.
So it was 90 degrees in Chicago, where sometimes you can go in
June and it's cold outside.
But the bottom line is you goto any stadium in the country in
June, July and August.
You're going to sweat your assoff.

(07:21):
So people want to bitch andcomplain.
It's like have you been to aBucks game in September, Tell?

me what that feels like You're
going for the sport.

Rob Goetz (07:28):
You're going because you want to go.

That's what I'm saying.
I don't give a shit about theweather either, if I'm going to
go watch the game.
I'm not worried about it, Iknow, don't you?
Well, I mean, if I mean it'snot that hard to drive.
Yeah, but that's when I go backto bandwagon fucking fans.

(07:50):
Because no, if you are a realfan, you don't give a shit about
the drive You're going.

Rob Goetz (07:55):
If the.

Bucs had a stadium in Pinellas.
I'm going.

Rob Goetz (07:58):
Yeah, of course, oh, exactly.

But that's football.
I mean, baseball's never reallybeen big in Tampa Bay, right?
Because in a tennis record showand a lot of people are
probably and you mentioned theTV viewership they're probably
watching to watch the opposingteam as opposed to the home team
.
Well, the stadium, you know,people talk about the stadium

(08:22):
and like all right.

Rob Goetz (08:23):
so Coors Field, the Rockies and the Rays came out in
the same exact year and CoorsField has one of the nicest
stadiums and it's just as old asTropicana.
The problem was Tropicana wasthe last dome ever built, so you
were on the back end of thetrend.
That's an retractable roof, soit's a different design where
this is just the stadium's trash, but it is what it is.

(08:46):
You know, if they stay in TampaBay, however, they do it.
I don't care if they play inPlant City or if they play
anywhere around here.
It's going to be the same drivefor me.
I'd like for them to stay here.

So let's think about it this way
also in terms of stadiums.
The Pittsburgh Pirates theirstadium is right on the river,
yeah, and it looks dope as shit,I went it's open.
Yeah, it's badass right, it'sincredible what do you think
about the ray stadium beingaround ebor, where it's like the
gas works area?
They're gonna tear all those uhshipping um or or the port,

(09:21):
half the port, and then you'reclose to ebor, you're close to
downtown tampa, you have atrolleybor, you're close to
downtown Tampa, you have atrolley that takes you right up
to the stadium.
I mean, it makes sense then.
I love that idea.

Rob Goetz (09:30):
I think if they could make that work, that would be
awesome.

Yeah.

Rob Goetz (09:34):
I'm biased because I live in Pinellas County.
I think they should stay there,but the only thing is I didn't
like them going back on it.
But yeah, if you have anopen-air stadium or a
retractable roof in thatdistrict and it's booming out
here.
I mean Tampa has come so far.
So many people have come here.
Look what Vinick has done withthe Lightning.

If somebody did that with the Rays
and Water Street, yeah and WaterStreet.

Rob Goetz (09:55):
You know, they got to make it attractive.
And I went to Pittsburgh lastyear.
I went with my wife and my twokids and we all like baseball,
and we all like baseball and wehad planned on going to one game
.
We went to four in a row.
We were there for four days,because like what?
Else are we going to do?
We stayed right across thestadium.
You walk there over a bridgeLike there's a reason why that's

(10:15):
the number one stadium, youknow, and it's got a beautiful
setting.

Oh it is.
It is the number one, it's thenumber one.

Rob Goetz (10:28):
PNC Park, the backdrop, you have the river,
but you also have downtownpittsburgh and all those bridges
are yellow.

It's called the city of bridges
because along the three rivers.

Rob Goetz (10:32):
There used to be called three river stadium.
We just, I remember, I remember, yeah, yeah, and like
pittsburgh's, you know, piratesare not that good of a team.
They haven't been good in along time.
I know I never, but there'ssomething about you go to that
stadium, like for my kids.
They wanted to just run aroundand play at the playground and
it's.

it's very welcoming and inviting and
you know they got such a bad-asslogo too, and then to have a
bad-ass stadium.

Rob Goetz (10:49):
Why can't you get them, are you?

are you a little bit biased, because
that logo kind of looks likethis logo?

Rob Goetz (10:55):
Yeah, they were saying let's go, bucks.

Let's go bucks.

Rob Goetz (11:01):
My kid's like bucks, I'm like well that's a nickname
for a pirate you know, so butyeah, we got the coolest NFL
stadium in my opinion.

I mean really pirate ship.
Oh hell yeah, with the cannons,fire the cannons.
I bet people, people make tripsto come here because of our
stadium well, shit we've had twoSuper Bowls.
Yeah, I mean shit, yeah, shit.
And the stadium was built.
What in?
Like 99?
, Like 97, I think Well as soonas they switched.

Rob Goetz (11:28):
That was the team I grew up with.

Yeah, right over here at Tampa Stadium
.

Rob Goetz (11:32):
Yeah, the old sombrero the old sombrero yeah,
Talk about a hot stadium.
It was nothing but bleachers.

So go there in.

Rob Goetz (11:39):
September and you're sitting on a silver bleacher and
there was no shade anywhere.
You know like that was rough.
Watching Barry Sanders win an80-yard run yes, I saw Steve
Young throw four touchdowns oneday, and then Joe Montana when
he was with the Chiefs lightedup.

That's what you went for to watch the
other teams.

Rob Goetz (11:56):
But they changed the colors, they got a new stadium,
they got Tony Dungy and you knowthe rest is history.

Well, I mean, he didn't win a Super
Bowl, yeah, but he did changethe mindset of the organization.
Before that we were alaughingstock.

Rob Goetz (12:10):
I mean, let's be serious.

I mean my dad.
All I remember my dad beforeTony got there was him cursing
at the TV watching thecreamsicles.
And I was like Dad, why are youso mad?
He's like because they alwayssuck.
And then all of a sudden, tonyDungy comes around and we start
winning games and my dad's like,wow, this is nice.
And he's like you got luckybecause they started winning
when you guys were old enough toremember, because before that

(12:35):
they were just I think it wasMonty Kiffin and Rich McKay man
the GM.
You got to give credit to theGM.

Rob Goetz (12:41):
That's like saying Jason, it was Tony, that defense
was nasty, but he put thatstaff together.

And who was the person drafting
these people?
Mckay, no, tony, dungy, tony.
Dungy wasn't the GM, it doesn'tmatter, he brought all his
coaches.
You're forming your coachingstaff.
You got Mike Tomlin you gotHerm Edwards, I mean you're
talking about an all-star castthat now or was you know,
they're still coaches, futureHall of Famers or no, our Hall

(13:07):
of Famers, yeah, yeah, you'retalking about great coaches that
came from that coaching staff.
I can't give it to Dungy, though, man, you have to.
I don't see how.
I mean he only won.
We fucking suck.
Dungy did the same shit that healways did.
We were up, we were gonna win,and then he played ultra

(13:29):
conservative ball and we thatbird emmanuel rule.

Rob Goetz (13:32):
You know that game was wow, that game was like 12
to 9 or something like that wassuch a low scoring game because
the bucks defense was justlights out and they had sean
king as the quarterback.

You know, I mean I didn't like him
on the radio station though yeah, yeah On the radio.
When I listened to Sean King Iwas like he's good on the radio,
Not so good as a quarterback.
Yeah, who was the guy that wealso had on man?
What Dignitary.
Oh yeah, ian Beckles, ianBeckles.
Yeah, yeah he was offensive lin, but they're not.

Rob Goetz (14:01):
Tampa sports has come a long way because I remember
the Lightning.
They were trash for a while, ohmy.

God, and then we won.
How many.

Rob Goetz (14:08):
Now three.

Yeah, two back to back, one with
LeCavalier and Brad Richards andMarius St Louis Back in like
2002, I think 04.
04.
You know?

Rob Goetz (14:19):
what sucked was.
They won the cup and the nextyear there was no hockey season,
so they didn't even get tocelebrate.
Wait what?
Oh five, there was no there wasa lockout.

No, it was a strike right.

Rob Goetz (14:28):
I think it was a lockout or something, but they
they didn't even have like that.
You know, Stanley cup, it wasjust, it was all kind of like
forgotten about, you know so waswild because we couldn't even
go.
It was like, you know, therewas no home games that year.
They won it in 21 when therewere home games, but you know

(14:50):
what was it called?

uh, before was amelie arena.
It was like the saint p timesforum, saint p times forum.
Then it was the tampa bay timesforum, because it used to be
the saint p times they used tohave the tampa tribune and the
saint.

Rob Goetz (15:03):
And then it was just now.
It's just the Tampa Bay Times.

The Amelie Arena.
It was the Ice Palace.
Years ago, that was the IcePalace.

Rob Goetz (15:10):
I used to go years ago.
The Lightning played atTropicana Field no how.
Yeah, how they started at thefairgrounds.
The Lightning first season wasat Expo Hall.
At the fairgrounds Are youserious at the fairgrounds.
Are you serious?
Swear to you.
And then they played atTropicana Field.
They used to call it theThunderdome.

The Thunderdome yes, they set an
attendance record.

Rob Goetz (15:30):
They had like 28,000 people there for a hockey game,
for a playoff game, but theyweren't that good back then.
When they got really good waswhen they got over here in Tampa
, and now it's just like likeyou said, the number one
franchise it was yeah, Votedacross all sports the Tampa Bay
Lights.

And I don't know if you ever went to
the Chase Club or the XO Club,Bro that place, oh the XO, yeah,
oh my God, man, that place, bro, all the food in there, it's
like a buffet line, literallyaround the entire fucking
stadium.
All you can eat, all can eat,all you can drink.
I mean, sure, you got a tip,but damn, when we went there, uh

(16:09):
, when we were working at icon,and uh, it was just fucking.
It was beautiful.
Yeah, I can see.
I can see why it was the numberone franchise.
I think it was like theystopped in 2023 being the number
one, but they were sold out.
Yeah, continuously, man,because people wanted to go, and
then you got downtown tampa,beautiful.
That's why I think the racestadium should be kind of like
pittsburgh, but Continuously,man, because people wanted to go

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, and then you got downtown.

Rob Goetz (16:30):
Tampa Beautiful.

That's why I think the Ray Stadium
should be kind of likePittsburgh, but in Gasworks,
where you have the river and youalso have the view of downtown
Tampa.

Rob Goetz (16:34):
Oh my God, Get the fuck out of here, right?

Where the Tampa Bay Rowdies play.
That would be awesome for the.
Tampa Bay Rays.
I don't know if they could fitit there.
They talked about that beawesome for the tampa bay rays.
I don't know if they could fitit there, but the backdrop of
the water, like we're going backto pinellas, that's fine.
Man, they've had explored thatthat's what that they.

Rob Goetz (16:53):
They had a sailboat, they had renderings for a
sailboat stadium, so it wasgoing to have a retractable roof
and it went up and down like asailboat like this.
That was like early 2000s, likewhen, when they turned into the
rays and they dropped the devilfrom the name, that was the big
talk you know that was weird.

Why did they do that?

Rob Goetz (17:09):
I don't know.
I think they went.
It's kind of a dual meeting.
If you look at the logo, it'slike sun rays, because they have
the little sun in there andit's also like the stingray
manta ray, whatever it is, youknow.
But hey, they started winning.
I remember m MC Hammer did aconcert that year, 2008, when
they made it to the World Series.
He's like they took the devilout of Raze and they started

(17:30):
winning MC Hammer style.
But yeah you know, what's coolis they're going to have
fireworks over here now aftergames and stuff, because it's
outside when.

At the Stanford?
Yeah, but where are theylaunching them from?

Rob Goetz (17:42):
Well, they always have them.
I live by Clearwater so it'sfun Like minor league games are
more enjoyable than major leaguegames.
They're just fun, like evenwhen I go to other cities.

That's why you have the hat on.
Yeah, the Tarpon.
What's that?
It's the Tampa Tarpon.

Rob Goetz (17:55):
So it's the Yankees minor league team and I picked
this up in spring training, eden, I'm assuming.
I don't know where they'replaying this year, but normally
they play in Steinbrunner?

Yeah, but isn't that stadium too small
for a major league?

Rob Goetz (18:08):
It's only.

I think 15,000 attendance.
No, I'm talking about how deepit is the park itself.

Rob Goetz (18:16):
No, they're playing there.
They played last night.

Sean Febre & Manny Feb (18:18):
Actually , do you want to talk about the
torpedo bats?
Yes, oh my God, I love it.
Yeah, only the yankees can usethem.
No, there's other guys usingthem.
Only the yankees can use them.
Because, yes, bro, what I'veheard is that because they had
an independent manufacturer makethem, all other franchises have
to make their own, so theycan't just distribute it among

(18:41):
all the players.
And not to mention the Yankees,for the first time ever, on
three pitches went home run homerun, home run.

Rob Goetz (18:48):
I was watching that with my kids, bro, that is and
crazy part the bat is legal.
Well, aaron Judge doesn't use atorpedo bat and he says why
would I use a torpedo bat?
I'm setting records, basically.
So, everybody has had access toit.
It's been around.
Francisco Lindor has been usingit this year and now teams are
putting in orders for it.
But look, watching home runs inbaseball is going to save it.

(19:12):
You know nobody wants to watch atwo to one game, you know.
So, yeah, the Yankees, my kidsdon't play travel ball.
They're eight and they're five,so.
But everybody talks about thesekids using these travel ball
bats, where they have these bigfat barrels at the bottom of it,
like you can't use them inLittle League.
And these kids are hitting theballs 30, 40 feet further.
So I'm like, why not, and it'swithin the rules.

(19:33):
You know, of course the Yankeesdid it first.

It's kind of like the tush, push you
did that.

Rob Goetz (19:38):
You saw that.

Now you're going to see everybody
doing it probably, and thenbaseball definitely needs
something to resurge it.
You know, because it was for methe pitch count or, you know,
the timer definitely helped itthe last time I saw it.
Last time I saw it I actuallyenjoyed, you know, going to the
game and watching the gamebecause it's not like, okay,
this guy's going to pick his assagain.

Rob Goetz (19:59):
Here's the problem You've got to shorten that game,
the.

Yankees hit nine home runs in one game.
Yeah, with the torpedo bat,what was the next closest home
runs ever hit?

Rob Goetz (20:09):
Tens the record, oh tens the record.

Damn.
And they hit three in the firstthree pitches.

Rob Goetz (20:14):
Three pitches Boom, boom, boom yeah.

And then in that first inning they
hit six.
It was crazy, that's outrageous.

Rob Goetz (20:21):
They were saying that crazy that's outrageous.

That's not even like.
That should not happen.
That should not happen.
It was funny.
They had a golf club andthey're like why don't they make
the golf clubs like that, withall the forgiveness spots on all
the places?

Rob Goetz (20:32):
Oh, I love all the memes that have come out.
Listen, being a Yankee fan, thelast five months.

Oh, so he loved it, of course.

Rob Goetz (20:38):
Yeah, it's been a terrible run, though I was at
the World Series last year withmy son.

Yeah, when was the last time they won?
They lost the World.

Rob Goetz (20:43):
Series.
They looked terrible doing it.
They embarrassed themselves.
Garrett Cole, their bestpitcher, is gone for the year.
With Cy Young they lost out onJuan Soto.
It's been a lot of losses.
Being a Yankee fan, so if it'sa bat you know, no matter what
it is.
But it's funny how you seethese things in sports that you
don't think of somebody does andyou're like, damn, where's that
idea been?
Why did it take so long to get?

to it.
Why the fuck did it take solong to make a?

Rob Goetz (21:07):
bat like that?
Yeah, why not have?
You don't really hit it off theend of the bat.
If you hit it off the handlenow, you have more wood there.

Well, what they did was they took it
from the handle and put it wherethe what do they call it?
The logo is.

Rob Goetz (21:21):
Yeah, yeah, the brand is.

Yeah, and it looks literally like this
.
Yeah, but they don't exceed the2.56 inches in width.

Rob Goetz (21:33):
Yeah, it's within regulation.

It is, it is, so it's not cheating,
technically no, but it fuckingsure as hell looks like cheating
.
I mean, oh man.
And then, if that goes on, Imean you got to think about it
this way also what you're goingto have is a lot of games
hitting home runs, a lot of runs, but that means the inning is
going to take longer.
Yeah.

Rob Goetz (21:54):
But also the pitch clock.

I mean , is it batter's clock or the
pitch clock?
The pitch clock, the pitchclock.
Now what you're going to see ispitching faster, batter's
hitting further.
I mean, the game's probablygoing to now extend.

Rob Goetz (22:07):
People want offense.
Yeah, offense, for sure.
I'll sit through a longer gameif things are happening.

But that's another thing.
Now You're thinking about theevolution of a bat now being
able to hit home runs easier.
That means pitchers are goingto have to innovate their
pitching in order to.

Rob Goetz (22:23):
Well, these guys.
That's why all these guys areblowing their arms out.
They're coming up a hundredmiles an hour.
There's nothing anymore.
You know these guys arethrowing a hundred every pitch.
Used to see a guy once in awhile throw a hundred.
Now these guys throw so hard.
That's why nobody bats 300anymore.
They're batting 250.
They're batting 275.
If you're batting 300 nowadays,that's impressive.

When I was growing up, I was like eh,
Movatani's insane.

Rob Goetz (22:44):
I mean that dude is on a different level.

But now he doesn't even have the
highest contract in baseball.

Rob Goetz (22:50):
Yeah, juan Soto.
I'm glad he left too.
I mean that's way too much forone player.
You know the Yankees wound upgetting four guys for that.

I mean it's not like basketball or
football.

Rob Goetz (23:05):
If you want to give 750 to, you know, even lamar
jackson or somebody that couldwin you a super bowl patrick
mahomes, one player in baseballis not going to do it, and me
and yankee fans should know thatyeah, well, patty mahomes last
year.
Well, last year yeah but, jalenhurts.
You know, these guys willrevolutionize your franchise.
A baseball player, not, not apitcher not a show, hey otani,
can.
He could do it from both sidesof the plate, but 50-50, bro
Come on and he had a shittyWorld Series If they lose that

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World Series.
he had a horrible World Series.
He was hurt too.
But, he didn't do well, butit's the heads-up play in game
one, where he takes what shouldhave been a double, turns it
into a triple, then he scores ona sack fly the next play.
They tie the game.
That everything.

All of a sudden you're a hero.
Yeah, that's how crazy sportsis, man.
You literally have one play.
You could be having the worstgame ever.
You score a goal.
All of a sudden, everything'sforgotten and we'll be right
back with happy hour.
Holidays we're really enjoyingRob in the studio today.

Rob Goetz (23:55):
We love talking about sports man.

We'll be right back, like, comment and
subscribe.
Yeah, welcome back to HappyHour, holidays and talking
baseball is something that.

Rob Goetz (24:03):
For the first time.
Happy to bring it to the otherside of the thing, hey, rob.

On another note, I know the
hurricane.
I think it's fucked up whatthey did with the race, and then
you know two major disasters.

Rob Goetz (24:15):
I don't think it's fucked up and taking it away
from them.

I mean , fuck Pinellas, I don't know.
It's all right, d, it's alldirtball.

Rob Goetz (24:26):
But how did you guys hold up over there, at least in
your area, with the hurricane?
You know, I was listening tosome of your podcasts about when
that happened and brought backa lot of memories.
So we live uh, my business andmy shopper.
I live behind the house I grewup in, like I grew up in palm
harbor, so, like I, I lived init's not even pinellas, almost
that's kind of no, it's, I know,I know, I know it's located
there, but it's like you know,you're more Hillsborough.

almost it can be.
It doesn't go too far east.
Safety Harbor.
Safety Harbor.

Rob Goetz (24:54):
That's where the burial grounds are, that I heard
you guys talking about.
But I did live in Safety Harborfor four years, but then I
moved back to Palm Harbor in2020.
But, we're 85 feet up, you know.
So the first hurricane was thatone.
Uh, helene, yeah, so all myfriends that live on the coast
or anywhere near the water, theygot smoked, I mean just
destroyed, and it's sad you know, you go and you see, and we're

(25:15):
we're working on people's homesright now where they're nowhere
near ready.
You know, and it's seven monthsinto this thing, they've been
living in hotels.
They've been.
It's just a disaster.
And I heard vince talking abouttrauma.
It is trauma, like when thegulf of mexico is in your living
room.
You got a problem.
You know like and and beingable to rebuild, and there's a
lot of people that arestruggling, like cities are

(25:35):
giving them a hard time aboutrebuilding.
You guys are in the real estate, you know like 50, oh yeah, 50,
50 dude.

Yeah, I mean I I drove through the
canals, through panela orthrough saint pete, over there,
madera beach, and it's notnormalized yet.
People are living in campers.
Yeah, people's houses are stillmessed up.
I mean it's not normal therestill.
It's still very, it's a verydevastated, you know, group of
people that are living, you know, day to day there yeah, and you
know it's been, it's beengetting closer and closer and

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and.

Rob Goetz (26:03):
Helene wasn't anywhere near us.

And that one took out the whole
coastline.
We're in April.
I want to point that out.
This happened in August.

Rob Goetz (26:12):
No, october, october, October Helene was like end of
August, I think.
Oh, it was August or maybe endof September, but yeah, they
were within like two weeks ofeach other and so we're talking
seven months we're talking sevenmonths.

Yeah, people were living in campers
outside of their fucking house.

Rob Goetz (26:27):
Still, if you, if you go there, I mean you'll still
see- the all these constructioncompanies are so backed up and
if you go to build, a houseabout the insurance companies.
That too, and who's you know.
How are people really gettingmoney?
You know, and I knoweverybody's you know.
For us we did well when itfirst happened, but we our
business because we only doflooring.
We dealt with a lot of peoplethat were self-paid, like hey,
they lived on the water, theyown their house outright, they

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don't have insurance or theydon't live on the water.
They weren't in a flood zoneand they still got crushed.
So even the people that did liveon the water, that own their
house outright, did not haveinsurance yeah yeah, so that's
kind of fucking yourself well,think about it, oh not, yeah,
you know not technically,because some people go.

Well, you know what, if I put away the
same money I give to theinsurance company?

Rob Goetz (27:08):
if something happens, I'll have that money there to
be able to fix my house so 1800a year I don't live in a flood
zone, so, yeah, yeah, well,every flood zone is different,
so, but if you live directly onthe water financially, look a
lot of these people.
I know people lived in thathouse 30 years, so 30 years at
10 grand a year you know you'regonna have to back up funds, but

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now 300 people are gonna berethinking it because it kept
getting closer and now wefinally saw it happen.
So it was wild mother nature's ason of a bitch.

You know, you saw, um milton was one
thing, it was storm surge andthen Helene or pardon me, helene
, was the storm surge, then wehad all the debris everywhere
and we're like, fuck, all thesepeople are going to get smoked
again.

Rob Goetz (27:51):
We went to Georgia for that one and no shit.
Yeah, because I'm like okay.

Do you live in the middle of Pinellas?

Rob Goetz (27:58):
yeah, I don't live in a flood zone or anything like
that.
But we left because my argumentto my wife she wanted to stick
around.
We have a whole house generator.
We have hurricane windows anddoors.
We're not anything happened toyour house no, we got lucky, but
this was my thing.
I'm like when am I ever gonnahave four or five days where my
cell phone is completely you?

know it's an opportunity.
You called it a hurricanevacation.

Rob Goetz (28:18):
Yeah, we went up to the mountains and we hung out
and I didn't post any pictures.

Yeah, blue ridge, yeah Blue.

Rob Goetz (28:23):
Ridge.
So because people were downhere losing their minds and plus
it turned into an apocalypsetrying to get gas.
You know I'm like fightingpeople, that is true.
That is funny.
I'm not sticking around forthat.
I didn't fucking.

You know, lucky I mean usually I'll
be like the other people.

Rob Goetz (28:36):
I was last minute.
You was on the border, but Iliterally fucking did for that
shit, because they were like, oh, it's, it's not gonna go this
way, it's not gonna go this wayand then all of a sudden, it's
heading that way I already beatthe crowd.
I was like, yes, well, it was,you know.

And now what's fucking crazy is
they're starting in mexico andcoming right here in three or
four days, I know they used to,we'd watch them coming from
africa yeah, yeah, and thenthey'll curve up and then around
, and then now you'll get it inthe gulf America, and then it'll
just slam in.

Rob Goetz (29:05):
It's funny you talk about that, because I'm always
like I don't care, we just callit the Gulf.
We don't say the Gulf.
I was swimming in the Gulf ofMexico, Bro.
We fucking swim in the Gulf.

We call it the Gulf, Nobody says
the Gulf of anything but thatshit's funny.

Rob Goetz (29:20):
But now it's like, okay, well, one was storm surge,
the other one was wind and allthis stuff, but what's next?
That's why I feel bad Peoplethat are rebuilding in the back
of your mind like fuck, whathappens if this happens again?

So you mentioned the 50-50 rule.
No-transcript I don't know.

Rob Goetz (29:35):
You guys know more about it.
Well, it's the.

FEMA, whatever money you got from the
FEMA, but you're only allowed todo 50% of whatever your house
is.

Rob Goetz (29:42):
Yeah, if you live in a $500,000 house and they come
up with these crazy numbers.
So I'm not an expert on it, butI do know the basic principle
If you live in a $500,000 houseand your whole house got
destroyed, they're going to comeup with a number on what it
costs to repair it.

if they say, hey, it's 300 000 to
repair this 500 000, you gottatear it down and build it up you
know so which I think on the onthe building codes, I know they
, you know everybody says it's aone in a hundred year storm,
but at the same time we live onthe fucking coast.
Yeah, I would have thoughtbuilding codes would have
required you to.
You know, have that second.

Rob Goetz (30:17):
But to have it on the 1960s.

No, I know, I know, I know, but at the
same time, even the houses thatare built up it smells like
mold in their whole fuckinggarage.
Because even if you have thegarages on the bottom, and you
have that on the top.
Your house is still compromisedbecause of the smell.
I don't know if you guys haveever been to Miami and after
Andrew, a lot of houses arestilted.
First story.

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Second story is where theliving quarters are and you have
a staircase going all the wayup.
I think that's what they'retrying to do over here, where
they're like hey, listen, ifthere's a surge and it goes up
eight, nine, 10 feet, well, it'sjust stilted.
So your cars may be damaged,but the house itself, because
it's built through block, isgoing to be okay, as may be

(31:00):
damaged, but the house itselfbecause it's built through.

Rob Goetz (31:03):
Block is going to be okay as long as you don't have a
Tesla.

Yeah, exactly, but where we live,
there's a little communitycalled Arizona and a lot of them
are the Key West style homesArizona, ozona, ozona, okay,
dunedin, dunedin, yeah, rightover there.

Rob Goetz (31:13):
So it's a little part of Palm Harbor but it's a
really quaint town.
It's like a fisherman's town,you know.
That's where the baseballfields are and, like I
photographed a house there, thatwas stilted yeah, a lot of them
are.
But you know, um, downstairs,where a lot of people keep
either their cars or pool tablesor they convert it into it's
uninsurable down there.
But if people still spend a lotof money, you know, and uh,

(31:34):
those all got wiped out.
But if you lived in a one-storyhouse which which a lot of
those are, you got killed, yougot crushed, I know.

But yeah, we're moving on.

Rob Goetz (31:42):
Luckily, I mean and I feel really bad for real estate
Anybody in the real estateindustry.
I know I got my real estatelicense in 2004.
I still have it.
I haven't used it in over adecade because my family owned a
foreign company.

You keep it active almost every year
.

Rob Goetz (31:55):
I keep it active just so I don't have to retake the
test and stuff like that.
But you never know what's goingto happen?

Your CE courses?
Yeah, like every two years.

Rob Goetz (32:02):
I got to do it by September 30th.

Well, if you sell your house, then you
don't have to pay a realtor.

Rob Goetz (32:06):
Yeah.

That's what I have it for.
I bought it for myself, so allright, I got the license for
myself.

Rob Goetz (32:15):
So, anytime.

I have to do is just pay whatever the
mortgage is going to be, andthat's it.

Rob Goetz (32:18):
Or if you're a really good realtor.

You just have the seller pay it.
Well, now that's changed.

Rob Goetz (32:23):
So they changed the laws and everything on how you
get paid and now with the rates,it's tough.
And it's funny because when Iwas growing up my family had a
flooring store.
That's how I got in thebusiness.
My company is not my family'scompany, so were you born in
Pinellas County?
I was born in New York.
I moved down here when I wasabout six years old.

My dad so you're basically Florida.

Rob Goetz (32:42):
I'm a Floridian, the only thing I claim out of New
York is I like the Yankees.

Other than that.

Rob Goetz (32:47):
I mean, I'm a Florida boy.

Yeah, yeah.

Rob Goetz (32:51):
But I got into the flooring industry and I
graduated high school in 2001.
I got my real estate license in2004.
My dad, who used to leave workat 2 o'clock every day and go on
his boat and play tennis, he'slike you need to get a real
estate license.
They've got it real easy andI'm like I got my real estate
license and after like a year ortwo of doing it, I'm like dude
this is not easy, you can showsomebody 30 houses and spend a

(33:13):
lot of time with them and thenall of sudden they either go
someplace else they don't windup buying.
You wasted a lot of time withpeople with flooring.
Our close rate is probably 80%.
So 80% of the people I makecontact with they're going to
wind up purchasing from us.
You know so and I don't youknow.
Look, there's nobody's going toclose, a hundred percent of the
people.
But real estate is tough whenyou get paid.

(33:33):
It was nice.
You know my first commission was$6,000.
I never had more than $600 inmy life, but I also knew those
can be few and far between.
But it's sad to see what'sgoing on and how tough it is now
for real estate.
I got a curious question here.

I know a lot of flooring companies.
They give you a price persquare foot on installation.
Does it vary between materials,whether it's laminate, vinyl or
tile or travertine, or inside,outside?
How does that?

Rob Goetz (34:05):
work.
So we do carpet, tile, laminateand vinyl plank.
And laminate and vinyl plankare essentially the same install
price, but we just bundle thewhole thing, you know.
So we only install because wehave a showroom.
We have a $3,000 or 3,000square foot.
It's a show, a showroom in awarehouse in palm harbor.
So we're we're a one-stop shop.
So when you come to us we sellyou the material and we install

(34:26):
it and and you know, we havepeople all day long hey, I
bought this stuff for floor anddecor.
Will you install it?
I'm like no, I'm like that'slike showing up, that's like
going to burn steakhouse.
Yo, I got this filet at abutcher shop.
I want, I want the good waiter,I want this the good cook, I
want the atmosphere, but I wantto pay for my own steak how's?
that sound you know, because thewhole experience with us is

(34:49):
we're going to provide you witha good product that's going to
last and is going to be backedby a manufacturer that we have a
relationship with so we don't.

You don't have to guarantee warranty
on the shit that they provideyou.
I have to, though, because butyou could just provide
installation right.

Rob Goetz (35:05):
That's the problem, though.
If I was an installer myselfand it was Rob's flooring
installation that I would behappy to do that, but as a
company, in order to reallythrive and be able to-.

Have them buy the materials from you.

Rob Goetz (35:20):
Yeah, because.
And be able to have them buythe materials from you because I
have to warranty.
You know, people don't.
People may have heard of mohawkor shaw.
If you go to buy a car,everybody's heard of every brand
that's out there, so they knowwhat they're looking at.
People don't know hey, I justsold a job today.
Southwind, 1200 feet.
Most people don't know whatsouthwind is in the industry.
It's a phenomenal brand.
The vinyl planks this thick.
It's top of the line stuff, sothey trust you that.
Hey, you know what you'retalking about because you're a

(35:41):
dealer of it.
Yeah exactly you know.
But it would devalue me just toinstall or something, because
that's actually good, that'sexclusivity yeah yeah, and plus
I always say it like this likeif I, if I I just sold a church,
right, it's a forty thousanddollar job.
If they went and bought thematerial somewhere else, god
forbid, something went wrongwith that material, I'm on the

(36:03):
hook for it.
So not all of that money isprofit.
You know, if I'm doing theinstall myself and I sell a
$3,000 installation.

it's $3,000 profit yeah.

Rob Goetz (36:12):
But when I have to pay it out myself, I have to be
able to make a margin on thematerial too, for sure be able
to make a margin on the materialtoo, for sure.

So then, is there a variation
between material types and priceper installation per square
foot?
Yeah, to your point.

Rob Goetz (36:28):
So, like what's the cheapest one, I'm assuming is
carpet, carpet's the cheapest,then after that vinyl, yeah, and
then laminate and tile tilesthe most tiles the funniest one
because people will go to floorand decor and they'll see a
tiles at $1.99.
I'm like, yeah, but installedit's 12 bucks, because tile
labor is so hard.
Everybody wants to install, uh,vinyl plank and laminate now

(36:49):
because you can do a thousandfeet in a day, or two tile a
thousand feet.
It's gonna take you five days,you know.
You can't say like, hey, you goin this room, you go in that
room and we meet in the middle.
That's not how that workshardwood.
We don't do hardwood anymore.
You did years ago, but it's notreally in any way it's really
not practical in florida.

It makes no sense and I always say
this I'm not gonna sell, I havehardwood in my house here's why.

Rob Goetz (37:10):
And and if you have hardwood, the day it goes down
it's beautiful, but it scratcheseasy.

It's not fade resistant well, you put
a boxy or your polyurethane ontop of it, right?

Rob Goetz (37:20):
I mean, some people can do that.
But if you want like a realnatural looking hardwood, it's
not going to look natural withthe polyurethane.

No, it looks like a gloss.

Rob Goetz (37:28):
Yeah, yeah and it's beautiful.
But for us the big problem issomebody who has to sell it and
warranty it.
Most people glue it down andyou know, florida has moisture
underneath the soag.
So it expands and it contracts,yeah, it just, you may get four
or five good years out of it,six good years, but after that
it's going to get ugly.

I can tell you this I do have maybe a
quarter inch gap right down themiddle from my living room all
the way to the front door whereit has expanded out.

Rob Goetz (37:58):
Yeah, oh yeah, that's normal, you know, I wish I
didn't have it.

I wish I didn't have it.
I wish I had.
What is it?
Waterproof laminate flooring.

Rob Goetz (38:08):
I love laminate.
I'm huge on laminate and likethis tile that you have here to
me, tile is, you know, the best.

That's what I love too man, it's the
best.
I mean, I know it costs morebecause you got the thinset, you
got the grout, you know, andyou got the tile, so it ends up
costing you more.
But boy does it, it's the best.

Rob Goetz (38:25):
It's terrible.
Forget it Once it's down.
That is not going anywhere.
You don't have to worry aboutbuckling.
You don't have to worry aboutlocking systems.

So you're probably to a property
and they have tile down.
The tile looks terrible.
It's probably an older propertyand you have to remove the tile
.
Then they say, hey, inreplacement of the tile,
laminate flooring.
How long would that fuckingtake let's say 1,500 square foot
home to remove all the tile,strip the tile, strip the ground

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.

Rob Goetz (38:59):
We have demo crews.
That that's all they do, but itprobably takes them some time
right.
It could take 1,500 feet isabout two days and it can be
messy.

Oh, that's not that long.

Rob Goetz (39:08):
It's not that bad If you're trying to do it like when
I was growing up in the late90s, early 2000s.

Hammer and chisel.

Rob Goetz (39:14):
Yeah, was the removal crew, because I didn't really.

My brain wasn't fully developed yet
I was partying all night long,so my dad's like get a
jackhammer you know.

Rob Goetz (39:24):
So that's what I did.
I ripped up floors and that'show I learned the industry.
But yeah, in those days it tooka while.
I remember we had a hardwoodjob for a professional baseball
player hard too oh yeah, rippingup hardwood by hand is a
nightmare, but now, they havethe right on machines and so it
goes quick, you know.
But the one thing that I love islaminate and I have laminate in
my house and everybody's crazyabout vinyl plank for years

(39:46):
because they threw the wordluxury in front of it yeah,
that's what I was going to askyou about too, that new luxury.

Well, what they're?
It's like a wood look, uh,luxury vinyl plank that almost
looks like towel, even has likealmost a grout.
Oh yeah, I mean, you wouldstill pick the laminate over
that what'd you have in yourwindsor?
It was uh the thin, uh.
Laminate right waterproof vinylprobably fine.

Rob Goetz (40:08):
So what was the thin one?
What do I have in my thickerbut the huh?

what do I have in mine?
Is it laminate?
No, uh, either laminate orhardwood most people don't know
well, my real estate agentsdon't know this hardwood.

Rob Goetz (40:19):
I'm like I defer, no, yeah, so I laid my own floors.

I know I have hardwood in my living
area, but in my uh bedrooms thatI replaced and laid myself yeah
, I think it's laminate, sovinyl is the thinner one,
vinyl's thinner it is the thethicker one it feels more like
wood.

Rob Goetz (40:38):
It looks's why I like it.

But it's all just pulverized and
compacted.
Yeah, but it looks real.

Rob Goetz (40:43):
That's why laminate In the early 2000s we sold
carpet, tile and hardwood.
We didn't even sell laminatebecause it was trash and that's
why people have PTSD over theword laminate.
Yeah, and these manufacturers,they remove, calls it Revwood.
They don't even call itlaminate Revolutionary wood.
So because it looks so muchmore like real wood and the
benefit to it is it's $7, $8 afoot where hardwood's $10, $12,

(41:07):
$13 a foot.
No, bro, I only paid like $1.68.
For hardwood no, no, for Well,I'm talking installed like out
the door, like how we do it.

Oh, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rob Goetz (41:18):
You may be able to pick it up cheaper, but our
prices, no, no.
But remember, I installed itmyself.
Oh, yeah, yeah, so you can'tcatch some, and it was a bitch
bro.

I fucking hated it.
It's tough.

Rob Goetz (41:27):
It's tough.
I've never installed a floor inmy life.

I did four bedrooms and I can tell you
it out doing demo and yo yolet's.
Let's throw out a situationhere because, uh, recently we
had a and I think I was tellingyou this off air a friend of
ours, um, or who knows if he's afriend anymore, you know who
you are um, he put down 85deposit on uh, on a job that was
staircase.

(42:03):
What would you?

Rob Goetz (42:05):
call it yeah the risers, yeah the white risers.

So he got a $14,000 estimate, an
$18,000 estimate and like a$21,000 estimate.

Rob Goetz (42:18):
Yeah, yeah.

Well, of course, naturally, being the
cheap person that he is, youknow who you are Chose the
cheapest one and he had to putdown 9,500.
Yeah, and then the guy didnothing, yeah.

Rob Goetz (42:30):
I mean, we hear it all day long, you know.
And because what are the?

Sean Febre & Manny Feb (42:33):
benefits with going with an accredited
company as opposed to just someJoe Schmo on the end of the
fucking corner.
That you think is going to begreat.

Rob Goetz (42:43):
You know that's not going to happen with us.
We have a reputation to upholdand we have.
That's why we have a 5.0 onGoogle.
We have almost 200 Googlereviews and somebody like me
where you can go to my Instagrampage or my Facebook page and
like I'm at the little leaguefield, I'm, you know, I, my
reputation is all I have.
So if I was to people that Ialways think about that, you
know somebody is going to makeoff with 10 grand Like.

(43:05):
Is that really worth yourcareer?
Like I mean how many?
I just don't ever relate myselfto that mentality.

Right, right.
So why should somebody go witha more and there, why should
somebody go with more?
And there's a reason why youpay more because of security,
guarantee, guarantee.

Rob Goetz (43:23):
That's what I always say.
We're an insurance policy.

Tell those cheapskates that, hey,
maybe you shouldn't go with thecheapest one, because the
cheapest one is going to be thebiggest headache, right, yeah?

Rob Goetz (43:32):
Well, our slogan is don't roll the dice, call
Paradise.

Oh, I like it.

Rob Goetz (43:38):
I like it, and it's the truth because, look, I used
to work at a large retailer and.
I wasn't as a general manager, Iwasn't in control of the
installers, I wasn't in controlof anything.
Basically, they told me to lookover the store and I knew that
50% of those jobs that went outthat day were going to have a
problem and I had no controlover it.
So, as a small business owner,somebody who it's going to come

(44:01):
out of my pocket if there's aproblem, every problem is money
out of my wallet so, and myreputation so in future.
So we built it on quality andyou know, I and Vince just you
know did a bunch of work for usyeah, shout out Youngest in the
Yacht Club, vince Serrano.

Raw Link Media Raw Link.

Rob Goetz (44:19):
Media, Raw Link Media .
You're the man, Vince.
Jenny, we love you too.
Thank you so much for puttingme on with these guys and
everything.
But you know, the first reelthat I released was me talking
about shopping for a qualitycompany, and I always tell
people look, even if you don'tbuy from us, make sure you don't
run into some handyman Becausethey don't have the money to
back it if something goes wrong.
And here's the other thing too,and do they even have the

(44:40):
insurance no most of them don't.
And the other thing is, it maybe okay today, it may be okay
next year, but in three years,when that floor starts failing,
where's that handyman going tobe?

He's going to be like I don't have
warranty, yeah, I don't know howI can pay you back.
Yeah, back.
Yeah, I blew it all on fuckingcocaine and hookers.
Yeah, because I went to vegas.
Yeah, you know, I went on avacation, yeah, and then I said
that I'm injured you know wewe've grown a lot and and and
we're now at the point wherepeople know us.

Rob Goetz (45:10):
They can vet us, they can go online, they can see.
Okay, these people know whatthey're doing.
You can go to our reviews andyou'll be able to tell.
And just coming in the showroom, you gotta got to feel like
when I met you guys, I got tofeel like I'm in the right spot,
you know.
So, your, your, your, yourgut's going to tell you.

So I think it is, man, you got to
trust your gut, yeah, and Ithink that's the biggest thing
that I've learned too.
It's like trust your gut,because it's usually right when
you don't usually second guessyourself.

Rob Goetz (45:34):
I did that recently with a paver purchase and I went
with basically no.
I bought it from my house andyou know I I even told my wife.
I said, listen, this deal isalmost too good to be true.
We're going to roll with it.
I'm going against my own sloganhere.
I'm rolling the dice.
You know, and like you know, wewere supposed to do it the

(45:55):
first week of January.
First week of January rolledaround.
I'll get.
I'll get to you.
Next week.
Second week rolled around, I'llget to you.
Next week.
Second week roll around.

I'll get to you next week.
I'm like I don't like the waythis is going.
Did you have to?

Rob Goetz (46:02):
put down a deposit.
I gave him a deposit.

What percentage?
It was half down, so it wasabout $5,000.

Rob Goetz (46:07):
But $10,000, I thought to do a three-car garage
and a big walkway.
Damn, that's half of what I.
I going to be happy.
No, but I saw his work.
He came recommended fromsomebody I truly trust and they
came by and they did aphenomenal job and I was super
happy.
So I always tell people look,there is a chance that you may

(46:30):
get a really good job, butthere's also a chance that you
may not.
With us, there's a chance thatyou're going to have a thousand
percent satisfaction and that'sit.

Yeah, Because that you're going to
have a thousand percentsatisfaction and that's it.
Yeah, Because I mean you guysare a business that has a
schedule, that's organized, gotthe insurance, which is massive.
If somebody breaks something inthe house, you know you're
going to be able to get it.

Rob Goetz (46:48):
We talk about real estate too, and that's one thing
with my realtor.
People want to discountrealtors and what they can do
for you.
You're dealing with somebody.
I heard you guys say their lifesavings, their greatest asset.
They're not all built the same.
They're going to put you in aneighborhood that you might not
be able to get out of, likepeople that think they're all or
they're not worth their money.
I'll just sell it myself, likeI have a real estate license.
I've used realtors in the pastfive transactions because I know

(47:10):
, yeah, I have a license, I'mnot an expert.
That's like, yes, you knowsomebody, you installed your
floor.
You're not a flooring installer.
There's a big differencebetween somebody that does it
every day as a professional andsomebody does it once in a while
.
You know, especially with realestate, I mean that that's going
to determine a lot.

I did a good job though, because, uh,
engineering allegedly yeah, no,man, you can't see any flaws.

Rob Goetz (47:32):
I mean, it was four bedrooms I bet you'd be able to
pick it out right.

You would maybe the trim work that's
usually where you can tell well, I, I mean not really, because
I mean I was really good withwood prior to what we do now,
but I mean I did a phenomenaljob.
I trust you, yeah.

Rob Goetz (47:50):
The Joe Schmo trying to sell me over here.
No, no.

I mean like hey, I did a great job.
Nobody can really pick out anyflaws, especially my father, who
used to build houses for Lenar,I think it was, it was Pulte.

Rob Goetz (48:05):
He used to be one of the workers framers.

And he kind of showed me how to do
everything and me and my wifedid it and I mean I can't see no
flaws If you're handy and youhave that.

Rob Goetz (48:15):
I don't.
My dad never installed a floorIn my family.
We're not the handiest people,we're business people, so I
don't know how to install afloor.
But yeah, I've seen people thathave installed tile floors in
their own house.
I will never try that.
Yeah, and they're likearchitects.
My wife's dad is a retiredengineer and he just did his
bathroom.
It looks beautiful, but he'sgot that.

(48:36):
He can put things together.
I know sports, I know music andI know how to sell flooring.
Outside of that, I stay in mylane.

You know All right guys, when we get
back with happy hour holidays,we'll continue with Rob and
we'll figure out what he likesto do on his spare time.
We'll be right back.
Welcome back to happy hourholidays.
We got Rob in the house and Rob.
So how did you get into theflooring business and how did
you make such a successfulbusiness here in the Bay Area?
Well, you probably saw theYankees using hardwood torpedo

(49:10):
bats.
It was the bats.
You saw the hardwood on the bat.

Rob Goetz (49:14):
You could use that same concept on a floor.

Let's just go with that.

Rob Goetz (49:18):
You know it's funny because I always said.
Nobody ever woke up and said Iwant to be in the flooring
industry when I grow up.
And you know you go to a car lotand it could be 95 degrees in
July and there's 30 salespeoplesitting on a car lot.
Most of those guys, no offenseto car salesmen but they're not
making a ton of money andthey're working a ton of hours
and there's there's peoplebeating down the doors to do
that job.

(49:38):
And you know, in the flooringindustry I always thought to
myself well, seeing what my dadcould provide for us.
Growing up, you know, my dadmoved from New York.
He had some, you know, he hadsome money.
He didn't know what he wantedto do.

He was in the flooring.

Rob Goetz (49:50):
Well, that's the thing, like he, his friend, his
family, uh, friends, like verygood friends that he grew up
with, they were in the flooringindustry.
They were big timers, they hadlike flooring manufacturing type
thing, so it wasn't just likeinstalling, they were like
manufacturing flooring on longisland.
So I think that kind of playedinto his thought process.
But he moved down here.
He first started opened up likea detailing car business, you

(50:12):
know, and then he opened up aflooring store, you know, and I
was young and um if I'm notmistaken, long island is the
rich rich rich.
It depends.
It's just like anywhere there'ssome nice parts and there's
some really dumpy parts you know, but it's expensive to live up
there.
No matter, no matter how yousay stuff, but even here the
places that we used to thoughtwere the hood are still 1500 a

(50:33):
month for a one bedroom rightnow.
You know it's wild but, um, wecame from just a regular middle
class town.
You know, there was westburyand there was old westbury.
So old westbury was the estates, the multi, multi-million
dollar properties, and westburywasn't bad, but that's where
your working class people were.
You know.
So then, from long island, yourdad came down here to palm

(50:53):
harbor, florida, so y'allhaven't even moved no, I moved
to palm harbor, cleawater safetyharbor, and I'm back in Palm
Harbor, so I'm, you know, twominutes from where I grew up in.
He moved to a spot that's aquarter mile from where we live
now and he opened up a flooringstore and it was him and my mom
and the installers, and they hadone other guy working for them.

(51:13):
He was very, very small, hedidn't really.
This was back in the nineties,so they had newspaper ads.
There was no internet, you know, so his whole thing was
realtors and recommendations andword of mouth.
So he built from just a smalllittle place to a place that the
whole community knew about andhe did very well.
He taught me how to run abusiness, he taught me the right

(51:34):
way to do it.
But in 2009, when things gotrough, business wasn't bad, but
him and my mom had a terriblemarriage and he said I'm closing
the doors, I'm done, I don'twant to do it anymore.
And I said, okay, what does itsay?
But in my mind, I was going totake over the family business
one day and it was.
The best thing that everhappened to me Was it called
Paradise Flooring.
It was called Imperial Flooring.

I've heard of it in palm harbor used
to be across the street frominnisbrook.
I like pear, oh yeah,innisbrook.
I like the, I like the name andthe logo for paradise, you know
where I got the inspirationfrom.

Rob Goetz (52:07):
And I'm not a fan, I'm a nicks fan, but the lakers
right, because what stands out,the purple, the yellow, and
there's so much in a name, andwhen I see something like bnc
painting, I'm like yo, youcouldn't have come up with
something a little more creative?
like it's my initials a1, like,come on, dude, like where do we
live?
You know, like, looking aroundthe room, look at the colors and
look at the, the names and thepodcast, everything's in your

(52:29):
name.
Right, I didn't get to pick myname.
My kids names are leonardo andluca, because you're gonna know
their names.
You know my name is rob.
You know, like I always thoughtmy name is Robert Thomas, he's
got a kid named Luca.
Oh really, yeah.

I spell the L-U-K-A because it was
a soccer player.

Rob Goetz (52:44):
Yeah, yeah.

So I, luca Mulderich, and I was just
like, oh, I like it with thecase, I did it with the K.
But yeah, me and my wife, bothlike Luca, we were like the
second one.
Oh, that's cool, yeah, so I gottwo boys, but I like Luca and
Roma.
They're great names, and my dadwas like bro, what's up with
all the Italian names?
I was like they're the bestnames.
Yeah, I love them.

Rob Goetz (53:04):
Well, vince Serrano, I mean Well he's what Puerto
Rican and.
Dominican.

Yeah, but talk about like an Italian
name.
I love what.

Rob Goetz (53:15):
But I'm like I'm going to pick it.
And so I was like, okay, what'srelatable to us?
You know we live in paradise.
What are some good colors?
And it makes you stand out, youknow, and like you look at
these logos and sometimes you'relike man, did they?
What were they thinking?
And some of you are like, wow,that's nice, you know.
So a lot has to do with thebrand.
And that's what we know.

Sean Febre & Manny F (53:42):
Mcdonald's you know, and it makes a
difference, that's one.
Don't roll the dice, callparadise, that is good.
Why did you come up?
Were you like, were you justlike in a moment, like you know,
not working, and you're justlike, oh shit you know it's wild
, so I I was working and I wasworking at a large retailer in
the area this is after your.
This is yeah.

Rob Goetz (53:59):
So my son luca, who he?
He just turned six before themovie came out with he's L?
U C a.
So daycare went from a thousanda month to 2000 a month, you
know.
So I was paying two grand amonth and and at that time me
and my wife did fine.
But we, we wanted to livebetter.
You know, I don't want to justpay the bills and have a little
bit left over.
I want to be able to go onvacation and be able to enjoy my

(54:20):
life and not be sweating wheremy next dollar is coming from.
So I said, well, how I maxedout what I can make.
Where I was there was, you know, I hit the ceiling.
What was it?
Where you were working?
It was Bob's, oh yeah.
So I worked there and I got myPhD at Bob's.
Phd at Bob's I always say thatbecause working with my dad, you
know like it was different.
You know, being at Bob's I wason a national level, you get.

(54:42):
I had exposure to companies andbrands and you know other ideas
.

Yeah, like my mentor who he passed
away.

Rob Goetz (54:51):
he was the buyer, so he made all the decisions for
Empire Carpet.
It's just the largest in theworld.

I feel like I've heard that name
Empire.

Rob Goetz (55:04):
They have the phone number, they don't even have the
jingle.
Yeah, they've been aroundforever and he, he was my mentor
and he taught me the ropes,basically, and so, um, but yeah,
luca was born and, uh, a monthlater I quit my job.
I didn't know what I was goingto do.
Quite honestly, I thought,maybe I would you know where can
you make more money?
At the time, real estate wasstill an option.
I thought, okay, becauseflooring's tough and you know.
And then so I, I, we, opened myown.
I say we, me and my wife,basically.

(55:25):
But I've done all the work andshe knows that, but she owns
half of it.

How long, how long ago uh 2019, so
uh march 15 2019.

Rob Goetz (55:37):
I closed shop.

So you're a solo owner.

Rob Goetz (55:41):
Yeah, oh, I thought.

Then I have to reframe because he said
one, me and my wife, yeah, ohyeah, him and his wife.

Rob Goetz (55:46):
But she knows, my wife takes care of all the back
end stuff at the house, which isvery important, you know,
because when she worked I had todrop the kids off at daycare.
She worked in downtown TampaDamn, downtown Tampa Damn.
So that's a drive from PalmHarbor, yeah.
So you know it took a couple ofyears to get things off the
ground, so, but now she takescare of all the stuff with, you
know.
They play soccer, they playbaseball, my other son's

(56:07):
starting football and it's allat once.
He's playing three sports atonce.
So there's so much that goesinto all that and the school and
she's on the PTA and I wantedher to be there for the kids
know.
So that's worked out.
So I.
She always asks, hey, can I domore at the shop?
I'm like, no, I saw my parentsmarriage get ruined because they
work together, because anytimeyou're with somebody that long
all day long, then you go home.
It's gonna be tough needsomebody.

You know you need to be able to miss
each other too, I mean this islike you know, you see them
every single day.
There's it's like okay I meanyou want separation.

Rob Goetz (56:37):
a little bit of it, but yeah, I'm the sole owner and
I didn't have any loans tostart Me and my wife the
owner-operator.
So, yeah, I didn't have anyloans.
You want to shout out your wifereal quick Shout out to Megan
Getz I love you.

Thank you so much.

Rob Goetz (56:50):
Without you, the dream's not possible.

There we go, it is a team.
It's a dream team when you havetwo people that are on, because
whether she's working on thebusiness or working with the
family, which is your, you knowyour sons and things, and that's
more important.

Rob Goetz (57:03):
I always say you have the most important job you know
, I have a friend who his wifeworks and he does, and I said
you're, you got three kids toraise.
You know, like that, I got theeasy job.
I get to work all day and runaround and do podcasts.
Her job starts when I come home.
That's why i'm'm like okay, andshe works too.
I mean she does stuff duringthe day as well, but I mean kids
are a full-time job.

I mean there's, I mean I give it to my
wife.
I mean she was working herentire life and she was just
like, all right, well, you know,we we home and watch the kids,
yeah Because evidently right.
The wife would end up workingjust to pay for the daycare,
when the wife it's kind of howit is.

Rob Goetz (57:43):
Yeah, when you weigh it out like that, you know Plus
bro, how did it go from 1000 to2000?
Well, with the extra kid.
So, yeah, from when we had Luca, so a month after he was born,
I quit my job.
I didn't know, and I have astrong faith in God, quite
honestly, and I always have.
I'm Italian Catholic, so I grewup with a strong faith in God.

(58:04):
My wife's like what are wegoing to do?
How are we going to do it?
I'm like I don't know.
If we go on vacation, we justshow up and we figure it out.
My life has always been God'sgoing to guide me, he's going to
figure it out for me, you know.
So I put my faith in God.
I opened my company and it wasvery small, you know.
I mean I worked by myself forthe first 18 months.
I didn't have any otheremployees.
My dad drove the forklift so hewould meet trucks that came by.

(58:27):
It was shop at home, totally,so I didn't have a showroom, you
know.
So I would show up at the housewith samples and stuff.
I'd be running around working60, 70 hours a week.
And then, over time, it evolvedand now there's really I call
us the core four.
You know, there's four of us.
Um, who's the fourth?
Me, uh, at work, it's me Lenny,my general manager Danny and
Dave, who are like my seniorproject managers.

(58:48):
We all are managers.
We all do the same thingessentially, but, you know,
without us four.
And then we have our installers, you know.
But you know, when I worked atother companies, there was a lot
more people doing what just thefour of us do.
But you know, we're all sobertoo.
That's been a big part of myjourney is, I've been sober now
for almost 12 years andeverybody the core four we're
all sober, you know.

(59:08):
So we don't have to worry aboutsomebody not showing up or, you
know, we were just on top ofour game at all times.
We make mistakes, but we don'thave to worry about the
extracurriculars, you know.
And obviously getting sobermeans you had a problem in the
past, you know.
So we know what that's like andI've been through that all.
I've seen it all and, by thegrace of God, right before I
turned 30, I was able to get mylife together and it's been able

(59:30):
to stay that way.
But that's real big in ourcompany culture is that we're on
top of things, you know.
So you're 42.
Yeah, I'll be 42 in September.
It happens fast, september.
What First?

Sean Febre & Manny Fe (59:43):
September 6th.
Oh yeah, virgo, virgo, I'm thesales guy.
We get along so well.

Rob Goetz (59:48):
People don't know what that means.
And so, like I'm, not real bigin astrology but like if I meet
another Virgo I'm like, oh yeah,I get it.

Yeah, we're the cool people.
Yeah, yeah, I'm the loser.
Whatever I do, I do a lot ofthat's why I don't drink, or?

Rob Goetz (01:00:03):
do drugs anymore because I that that was my
problem.
I didn't have a couple of beerswith the boys, you know, I
didn't have a couple beers withthe boys.
You know, I never bought a sixpack, it was 12 packs and then
it led into a lot harder thingsand those harder things brought
me to to my breaking point whereit was like, hey, am I, am I
gonna live or die?
You know, like I, I was a lowbottom alcoholic drug addict and
it was like, okay, now I'mhooked on five substances.

(01:00:25):
It's not just one, it's notjust beer.
Five substances, what were they?
Opiates, benzos, which is umxanax, cigarettes, marijuana and
alcohol.
So, but you know, for 15 yearsI was on something, all day long
, you know, and it just gottougher and tougher and tougher
and, um, well, it's hard tooperate like that.

(01:00:45):
Yeah, oh yeah you can't run abusiness like that.
You know my kids, my prayer isthat they never see me messed up
, you know so I couldn't imaginebeing hung over.
There are nights where I'll youknow once in a while if I stay
up till you know one, two in themorning, or if we go on
vacation and like we just wewent to Arizona over spring
break.
We didn't get in and we gotthere late.

(01:01:05):
I went to bed at like threeo'clock Eastern time and I woke
up at like four hours later andI felt like I was drunk all day,
like I'm like I couldn'timagine how people do this sober
, just the lack of sleep.
you know, just the four, thelack of four hours sleep.
But yeah, so I mean, and Istill have fun.
You know talk about hobbies.
Like I still go to baseballgames, like we love baseball, I

(01:01:27):
love sports.
You know we go to bucks games.
I was at the bucks playoff game.
Like I was there when we wonthe division against the saints
with mike evans at the end, likethat shit was awesome, we were
all like, don't do it, don't doit.
Then they did it.
It was so cool.
We saw him at the casinoafterwards, you know, yeah he's
a cool guy.

Sean Febre & Manny Febre (01:01:43):
he is, yeah, yeah, super cool guy.
He's like, good with his fansand I mean he could have easily
gone anywhere else and hedecides to stay here in Tampa.
I mean, once you come here,just like Chris Godwin, he had a
chance to leave, but this isparadise, it is.
Chris Godwin has kind of beeninjured for the majority.

Rob Goetz (01:01:58):
I mean I don't really care.

I mean , I like Chris when he's healthy
, because he's a really goodreceiver.
But I mean the thing is, if hecan't stay healthy, then it's
kind of tough to get thatproduction we want out of you.
And then I don't know how youguys feel on this upcoming Bucs
season, but I feel like you know, we got ESPN saying that we're
only going to win six games.

(01:02:20):
They say it every year.
Every year Won the divisionfive years in a row.

Rob Goetz (01:02:24):
Well, I mean, look at our division man, I get that,
but the Patriots played theBills, the Jets and Miami for 15
years.
Tom Brady had the easiest pathto the Super Bowl every single
year, yeah all those teamssucked Every single year.
True.

I mean until they got Josh Allen and
finally.

Rob Goetz (01:02:39):
Yeah.

I mean , I think that was after Tom
Brady.

Rob Goetz (01:02:42):
Josh Allen became good, and then Brady.
Because Brady played Mahomes,that one epic AFC championship
game and beat him.
And beat him, but that was likewhen Josh Allen was first
coming around too.

But Brady also beat Pat Mahomes in
the Super Bowl.
That was incredible.
In Tampa so there is no reasonwhy anybody in my opinion can
say that Pat Mahomes is betterthan Tom Brady.

Rob Goetz (01:03:06):
You can't say it anymore.

You can't, because after a Super
Bowl and after an AFCchampionship game you lost twice
.
Pat, I mean Brady's got yournumber.

Rob Goetz (01:03:15):
And after that ass whooping they just got, if he
won three in a row, maybe youcould open the conversation.

But they can say the same shit about
Eli having Brady's number.
Yeah, because the two timesthat Brady faced Eli in the
Super Bowl, eli won.
I think that's the only timethey lost was to the Giants.

Rob Goetz (01:03:32):
No, no, brady Halls got him.
Oh, nick Foles did get him.
He lost three times.

Yeah, that's crazy.

Rob Goetz (01:03:37):
I watched that game the other day.
It was on NFL the replay.

The classic NFL Network yeah.

Rob Goetz (01:03:42):
NFL Network when we lost to the Rams with Cooper Cup
.
You know that epic playoff gamewhere we came back and tied it.
We've had a tough run in someof these playoffs.

You're talking about 2021 Bucks.

Rob Goetz (01:03:52):
Yeah, when we had Brady and they came back, that
was awesome.

I'm sorry, but that was terrible
coaching by Todd Bowles when hewas playing so soft.

Rob Goetz (01:04:02):
That wasn't Bruce.

Arians .
No, Bruce Arians was the headcoach.
Todd Bowles was still thedefensive coordinator.

Rob Goetz (01:04:07):
That's tough.
That's when Coop was all world.
He's the best player infootball.
What happened with?

Koop, what happened with McCaffrey?
I mean, bro, these guys felloff.

Rob Goetz (01:04:18):
Yeah, you know it's.
They really did Football's sotough.
And then Brock Purdy.

What happened with Brock Purdy, with
the Niners bro?

Rob Goetz (01:04:32):
Like event.
Who went?
All the way to the super bowl,lost pat and then the following
season does nothing.
They had a lot of injuries, butstill, football's a game
injuries.

You know, samuel, they have fucking
uh.
Mcafree, they had uh it's tooviolent of a sport to guarantee
that your running back's goingto be there all 16 games or your
quarterback's going to be thereall 16, or even your wide
receivers or your players intotal.

Rob Goetz (01:04:48):
I mean, it's just look at the eagles this last
year, but the year we beat themin the playoffs two years ago,
they started out like 11-1.

Yeah, they did.
They were just steamrollingpeople, they were.

Rob Goetz (01:04:58):
Then the last, like four or five games.
You're like this team's trash.

Yeah, it is, and then we beat them.

Rob Goetz (01:05:05):
We beat the crap out of them.
That was my favorite game I'veever been to Before we lost to
LA.
We actually went to the Eaglesgame, oh, that one when Hurts
was still coming up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, coming up.
Come on, bro.
He was already really good wewere.
That was before the Tush push.

Rob Goetz (01:05:20):
No, but we went, no.
No, we stopped them twice onthe Tush push.
No, you're went to the one.
That playoff game they won herethe Eagles were okay.

They weren't where they're at now.
No, that's when they had teamdissension, Because I always say
I do it to fuck with them.

Rob Goetz (01:05:37):
I say team deception.

Team deception.
He's like it's dissension,dissension, yeah, but I was
confident in this Bucs team.

Rob Goetz (01:05:44):
I mean, look if they would have had to play the
Eagles or the Lions.
They beat both of them.
Yes, thank you I thought theycould hang with anybody.

Then again, I mean man, the Lions are
the only team in America thatwe want to see win.
That may never win.
That may never win.

Rob Goetz (01:06:01):
They got smoked and I went to bed and I missed that
game because it was a little bitlater.
I had to get up early the nextday.
I put a bunch of money on itbecause I thought there was no
way and fucking Jaden Danielsjust made them look stupid and
you know the Bucs played him sowell here.
They stopped him on all thosefourth downs and they stoinked a
field goal in to win it.
But that kid on fourth downit's hard, it's demoralizing

(01:06:24):
when they keep getting thesefourth downs.
That was a terribly coachedgame.

So have you guys seen this?
I don't know if you guys haveseen this.
There has been a push fromother teams.
Do you know how?
There is a rule that you cannotpush your.
It's like on the defensive sidewhen you're going to block a
field goal.

Rob Goetz (01:06:44):
Oh yes, you can't push.

So there are teams that are saying,
hey, listen, if you cannot pusha defensive lineman into the
offensive line, there's noreason why you should be able to
push the offensive line intothe defensive line to score a
touchdown.
So there's a push to get thetush push banned.
They're working on that rightnow, which, in my opinion, I

(01:07:09):
think is a great rule.
I don't think there should be atush push.
Well, you know, the Eagles didit very well with what is the
guy's name.

Rob Goetz (01:07:15):
Kelsey Jason Kelsey.

But I don't think that's an actual
play, bro, that should beallowed within the NFL.
I think it is taking advantage.

Rob Goetz (01:07:24):
They found the loophole.

They did no but they're pushing to
get rid of it.

Rob Goetz (01:07:28):
Yeah, they should, because players are going to get
injured.

Yes, thank you, and it's just kind of
like a gimmick.
You know, and yeah, if they getfour to one, they're going to
get it.
You know how you can't jumpover a D-line man in an
offensive line to block a fieldgoal.
Well, it's the same fuckingshit.

Rob Goetz (01:07:42):
Well, they've made it so hard on defenders to play
defense to begin with.

You know you can't touch the
quarterback.
I mean, how many plays did wesee Mahomes guys get by his legs
?
Are you talking about theKansas City refs?
Yeah, that's what they'recalled, bro.
That's my favorite meme.

Rob Goetz (01:07:57):
the guy with the refs with the red stuff yeah bro,
but imagine that you stop theseguys and finally then they come
up on fourth and one, or evenfourth and two, and they come up
with this gimmick, like come upwith this gimmick, like it's
hard to stop Ten yards, fourplays, like that's tough.

It is.
It's tough to stop.
Yeah, I know it's not easy atall, man, but I don't know if
football is really going in theright direction overall.

Rob Goetz (01:08:19):
Roger.

Sean Febre & Manny Febr (01:08:19):
Goodell needs to be fired.
I don't know Roger.
Goodell needs to be fucking letgo as commissioner of the NFL.
You have done a horrible job,you little T-Swifter
motherfucking pushing the Chiefsand Travis Kelsey and Taylor
Swift.
That shit ain't helping, bro.
Let's get back to the roots.

(01:08:40):
Let's get back to the NFL.
Let's get back to thenitty-gritty.
I mean, when you saw WalterPayton run, when you saw Barry
Sanders run, there was contact.
When you saw Dan Marino damnnear break his hip and the
motherfucker next game puts on abrace.
Let's go, man.
The NFL is no longer physical.
It is now a game ofpacification.

Rob Goetz (01:09:02):
Yeah, what is that new call?
Like the drop tackle orsomething.
Yeah, yeah, you can't grab.

Yeah, the drop tackle, where you grab
onto the hip and then you justdrop your body weight.

Rob Goetz (01:09:13):
That's tackling, that's tackling, thank you, but
now they're worried about themcollapsing their knees when
they're bringing them down ortheir ankles.
Yeah, but this is fuckingstupid man.

But I mean I think that when people
play football, how do you callthat as a penalty?
Did you see the?

Rob Goetz (01:09:24):
offensive line ones.
I forget if it was college orpro, but I was watching games
and the offensive line wouldjust throw the guy to the ground
.
They kept calling it a penalty.
I'm like, how is that a penalty?
He's pushing the defender down.

How is that a penalty?

Rob Goetz (01:09:36):
Yeah, what did they call it?
It was like some illegal move.

The thing is is like with anything
if you're going to race cars, ifyou're going to be a surfer,
whatever it is, you know what,taking away what football is
because of the risk I get,insurance purposes, all that
kind of stuff.

Rob Goetz (01:09:51):
C-T-E-S-E -N.

But at the end of the day, shout out
Antonio Brown.
But you know what you'regetting yourself into and I
think the physicality of thegame is really starting to
diminish it, but I'm still goingto fucking watch it.
Yeah, of course, I mean, Ithink it peaked.

Rob Goetz (01:10:07):
You know the Kaepernick era, that time in
2011, 2012,.
Things got weird after that,but right before that that's
like when Tebow everybody wascrazy about football.
Yeah, when you had Brady andManning and that era for
whatever reason, but stuff gotweird.
A lot of the old timers, Idon't care.
Whatever you do with the knee,whatever.

(01:10:29):
That's not going to stop me.
My dad's the type of guy I'mnot watching football.
I'm not supporting that.
I'm going to watch it no matterwhat happens.
But for the rest of America.
That's why the ratings look atthe NBA.
I'm a basketball fan.
The ratings plummeted.

They better get it together, you have
LaFlop over here, I mean, andmaybe for the Lakers, at least
Djokic will be able to dosomething.
I mean, he's been droppingdimes out at the Lakers, but
then you have Bronny James, whohas no business playing in the
NBA, zero business playing inthe NBA.

(01:11:02):
He has one game where he dropslike 30 and everybody's like, oh
my god, this is it, this is thefuture of Prince James.
What the fuck are y'allwatching?

Rob Goetz (01:11:11):
That's the thing.
Did you not see the?

last 15 games, where he put up four
points on like 16 field goalattempts.
Bro, nobody remembers what youdid.
It's what you did now.

Rob Goetz (01:11:26):
And ESPN is at fault.
When we were growing up nooffense to women's basketball,
but ESPN I was watching aboutbaseball they're dropping their
relationship Major LeagueBaseball and ESPN because ESPN
focuses on hot topic items, notthe actual sport.
What the conversation?

is about.

Rob Goetz (01:11:42):
It's all become all talk.

So what are you talking about?

Rob Goetz (01:11:46):
You're talking about LeBron James all day long.
I like Pat.

McAfee yeah, but what he's saying,
it's all talk.
It's all about rumors.

Rob Goetz (01:11:54):
It's kind of like MTV stopped showing music videos
and it became more about theratings and not what's actually
going on.

And their ratings are good.
But guess who's driving ESPNDisney?

Rob Goetz (01:12:04):
Disney, yeah, there you go.
So it's changed.
And that culture is going away,people, and that culture is
going away.
People are going away from thatculture, you know.
But just show us the sports.
Let us watch football.

Let us watch baseball, basketball.
Take politics out of it.
Let's not fucking speculate.
Well, that's another thing.

Rob Goetz (01:12:16):
That's what ESPN has turned into a political
community.
Yeah, it has.

Sean Febre & Manny Febr (01:12:20):
Because of Disney.
That was my favorite show whenI used to be a kid.
Espn Sports Center was StuartScott.

Rob Goetz (01:12:32):
All these, all these guys, you know all these guys.
It was like top 10 plays.

Yeah, nothing but highlights,
highlights highlights, so Icould catch up when I wake up,
yeah, chris broom.
And now it's like a bunch ofbullshit.

Rob Goetz (01:12:38):
It is, if you watch a episode of sports center I
haven't in freaking forever andall they do is they talk about.
Here's the other thing.
I love the nfl, but they theyoverplayed it.
They talk about the draft forthree months it, it's like the
NFL draft gets three months fullof coverage.
What about these other sportsthat are actually being played?
It's just speculation thatthey're talking about.
Ooh, who's going to?

(01:12:59):
Where are they going to takeShador Sanders?
Who?

cares.

Rob Goetz (01:13:02):
No, they're saying the Giants.

Yeah right Russell, yeah Russell.

Rob Goetz (01:13:05):
Wilson yeah.

I mean we've Okay, we'll be back with
Happy Hour Holidays.
It looks like my producer said,we ran out of time.
All right, guys, we're backwith Happy Hour Holidays and you
know, really appreciate Robcoming in here with Paradise
Flooring and we wanted to see,rob, can you tell the audience
you know anything motivational?
Obviously do you know a pitchto why?
You know, don't roll the dice,make sure you use Paradise

(01:13:28):
Flooring.
So you know what can you tellthe audience out there about
using your company and thenanything motivational to help
them out if they want to try tobuild a business to success.

Rob Goetz (01:13:38):
Yes, thank you, I appreciate that.

Manny.

Rob Goetz (01:13:39):
So yeah, I mean, as far as we go, Paradise Flooring,
it's pretty easy.
We say we want to beChick-fil-A, we don't want to be
McDonald's, we want to bePublix, we don't want to be
Winn-Dixie, right?

So you're going to have a better
experience.

Rob Goetz (01:13:52):
You know if that's worth something to you, then
we're your company.
Not everybody can afford moremoney.
I get that to pay more forsomething, but a lot of our
clientele is people that are ontheir third or fourth or fifth
home that have been screwed overby a handyman or something like
that Not saying all handymenare terrible, but if you want a
guarantee, come to ParadiseFlooring.

(01:14:13):
We would love to take good careof you and you're going to get
a guaranteed good qualityproducts, good quality install
and that's the best.

Is it because you don't want to roll
the dice?
You need to go with Paradise.
That's how it goes.

Rob Goetz (01:14:26):
If you want.
To what does they say?
Don't make it twice, Make itnice.

I forget that.
Wait a second.
No, no, you're almost there.
Yeah, don't make it twice.
Make it nice, or?

Rob Goetz (01:14:37):
make it twice.

And that's what.

Rob Goetz (01:14:38):
I tell people, like, if you do it right the first
time, you don't have to do itagain, because a lot of times we
see people that have had to dotheir floors twice, you know,
and that's when it sucks.

Yeah, and you had to pay what you
would have paid originally Ifyou would have just hired the
reputable company.
You would have had to pay onetime, and it would have been
done.
There's a lot of idiots outthere that pay once and they
can't get their money back.
Nothing personal to thoseindividuals, but you know who
you are.

Rob Goetz (01:15:07):
Motivational, like what I always talk to my guys
about it.
Control the controllables.
There's always going to beproblems.
As as good as a company as weare, I always have problems.
They're going to happen.
We're in a construction industry.
It's how you handle thoseproblems, you know.
So there's a lot of.
There's going to be a right wayto do it, in a wrong way to do
it.
If you do the right thing, itmay cost you money.

(01:15:28):
You know like?
I've got a floor right now.
We installed three years ago,we've repaired it and this
particular manufacturer, who wedon't do business with, they
will not stand behind it.
But look, they came to me forthe floor.
They didn't go to said company,they came to me.
I was selling their products.
It's been okay.
And now we've had to repair ita couple of times and the guy

(01:15:49):
called me yesterday to say, hey,it's failing.
It's going to cost me 10 grandto get this guy a whole new
floor for his house.
But I'm going to do it becauseI have to do it, because he
trusted me and I know it's notlike a shirt, like oh, this
shirt faded, I'm not even goingto bother, I'll just go buy a
new one.
Like no, they spent a lot ofmoney on this floor.
They put their trust in me.
They came to me, so I want tomake it right for them.

It sounds like you are very
customer forward, which is agood thing.
That's how that's how we arewith our business.
Five-star review, five-starreview.
That's the way we like to go.
We like to do good business, soin turn we get a lot of
referrals and then you don'thave to market so much if you do
conduct good business, becausepeople are going to spread the
word.
Yeah, and you know, reallyappreciate you coming on, rob.

Rob Goetz (01:16:33):
Thank you guys.
It's been a pleasure.
It's been awesome.
We talked about all kinds ofstuff man.

And I wish you nothing but the best
Success.
And you know, thanks foreverybody tuning in and we'll be
back for another episode ofGreatness.

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