May 29, 2025 • 47 mins
When Marandan Renea picked up a brush at age six, little did she know she was taking her first steps toward a dazzling career creating iconic looks for WWE superstars, New York Fashion Week models, and brides across the country. From getting her cosmetology license in high school to establishing a thriving "concierge beauty" empire, Marandan's journey reveals what it truly takes to succeed in the competitive world of beauty.
On this episode, Marandan pulls back the curtain on her fascinating work with WWE wrestlers like Jade Cargill, where her distinctive makeup designs (including that jaw-dropping symmetrical line down the face) have become part of wrestling history. She shares the adrenaline rush of transforming a performer's entire look in just nine minutes backstage at Wrestlemania, proving that grace under pressure might be her greatest superpower.
But Marandan's wisdom extends far beyond technique. She delivers candid insights about the business side of beauty – why bridesmaid drama is more common than bridezilla moments, how collaboration trumps gatekeeping for real success, and why genuine service must remain at the heart of even the most glamorous beauty brand. Her "I Touch Myself" series takes makeup beyond the surface, creating space for women to explore self-love and confidence beyond cosmetics.
Whether you're an aspiring beauty professional, a business owner looking to scale, or simply fascinated by the behind-the-scenes magic of entertainment, Marandan's blend of creativity, entrepreneurial savvy, and authentic perspective offers something valuable. Because as Marandan reminds us, the most important foundation for success isn't found in any makeup kit – it's ensuring your happiness isn't compromised in pursuit of your dreams.
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Sean Febre (00:00):
Welcome to Happy Hour Holidays.
I am your host today, SeanFabre.
We got our co-host, VinceSerrano.
What's up?
Vince Serrano (00:08):
I am Vince Serrano.
I am Vince Serrano, YoungestCity Yacht Club Happy Hour
Holidays guest co-host.
Sean Febre (00:14):
Co-host.
Yeah, I mean, manny, we'remissing you today.
I know that you're moving andyou just bought another house,
so congrats on that Kind ofsucks.
You couldn't make it.
Today.
Our guest is Miranda Renee, whois a entrepreneur and mainly
dabbles in makeup, but alsosells products, correct?
Marandan Renea (00:36):
I sell a lot of things.
Sean Febre (00:38):
She sells herself.
Marandan Renea (00:39):
She sells like not like that, though Not like
that you are a brand, thoughshe's a beast now, and you've
worked with WWE wrestlers yes,jade and Bianca.
Sean Febre (00:56):
You've also done some shows where Drake was
involved as well, correct?
Marandan Renea (01:00):
Well, drake was there, okay, and then we just
had a little dinner Not likethat.
It was a business setting.
Everybody was there.
But, yes, I got to meet Drakeat a show.
Sean Febre (01:12):
And you also have done New York Fashion Week.
Marandan Renea (01:15):
New York Fashion Week, bridal Fashion Week,
men's Fashion Week all of theweeks in New York I have done
them.
Sean Febre (01:21):
So can you tell us a little about your background?
How did you?
Marandan Renea (01:30):
get into this kind of industry?
What got you motivated to be?
Is it a cosmetologist?
Is that what you call yourself?
I am a licensed cosmetologistand a licensed instructor, and
I've been doing hair since I wassix.
So in high school I got mycosmetology license and
graduated, so I had to trade at18.
So I've never really worked ajob.
This is all I've done.
Sean Febre (01:52):
So then you got into it just from the jump.
Marandan Renea (01:54):
From the jump right out of high school.
Sean Febre (01:56):
And you're not from Tampa Florida, are you I?
Marandan Renea (01:58):
am not.
I'm from South Carolina.
Sean Febre (01:59):
And why did you decide to move from South
Carolina to here?
Let's hear the story, let's getit.
Marandan Renea (02:05):
Okay, born and raised in South Carolina, I met
my boo in Florida and we havejust been.
We've gone from Orlando toJacksonville to now Tampa and
we're loving Tampa.
We think we're going to setroots here.
Vince Serrano (02:21):
Oh, okay, that's what I'm talking about, man.
You heard that Tampa is theplace to be y'all it is, I love
it, I love it.
Sean Febre (02:28):
And so can you tell the audience what exactly it is
that you do in your business.
Marandan Renea (02:34):
Yes, so I have a hair and makeup business.
It's a concierge business, sowe do weddings, but we also do
events, red carpets.
So we do weddings, but we alsodo events, red carpets.
I hire out people forproduction, so people that are
doing small films or book coversor whatever made up for
(02:55):
podcasts, whatever it is Like.
I send a team to them.
If they want me, I'll go out,but you know my fee is a little
bit different.
But, yeah, so beauty services.
And then I also do hair andmakeup classes.
I do online classes, in-personclasses.
I just started Well, I didn'tjust start it, I just started
back up my classes forbridesmaids Because, for some
(03:18):
reason, bridesmaids don't wantto pay the fee, even though they
know the wedding was coming fora whole year.
You could have put your $20 tothe side, but that's okay, just
$20?
.
They could have put it to theside to pay us up in a year.
They just don't want to spendthe money.
But it's fine, because now Ihave a bridesmaids class, all
the girls can get together.
I'm going to teach you to lookat the bride.
(03:38):
I want you to have your hair,your makeup.
I'll even bring a little drink,a drink.
We can make it fun.
There we go A little appetizer,but now I have a class for that,
so I'm going to be lunchingthat soon.
But that's pretty much what Ido in my business.
Sean Febre (03:50):
And you also have something on your website that
is interesting, what you calledit I Touch Myself, I Touch
Myself.
Marandan Renea (03:56):
What is?
Sean Febre (03:57):
that exactly.
Marandan Renea (03:58):
I Touch Myself.
It is a play on words, howeverit words, however, it can get a
little nasty, if you like thatit's really sensual hair and
makeup videos to teach women, um, how to care for themselves,
how to fall in love withthemselves, women empowerment,
um, and I do.
I have a series of videosasking some women like how do
(04:19):
you touch yourself?
And if her answer is literal, Idon it.
However, it could be.
They like to go to the beachand read a book, and they feel
they're most beautiful when theytake a bath and put oil on or
when they are havingconversations with their girls,
whatever that thing is thatmakes them dig deep and feel
(04:42):
great about themselves is howyou touch yourself.
So that's what the whole seriesis about.
Sean Febre (04:46):
So what you called it a concierge service.
Can you elaborate a little bitabout that, because I keep
hearing people use that word andI'm not entirely sure what it
means.
Marandan Renea (04:57):
For me, it means like it's just at your service,
like we'll pull up and show upwherever you are, wherever you
need the service to be, whateveryou need, because this is a
service-based business, which iswhy I don't understand why a
lot of hair and makeup artistsget the big head when they you
know they out here and they popand they you know, I understand,
(05:18):
like you you're very talentedis great, but it's service-based
.
We are still here to serve ourclient.
So if our client is crying andshe needs some eye drops or
whatever that means we're, we'regonna be there to get it for
her.
I mean, she is paying the feefor the services.
Vince Serrano (05:35):
So whatever she needs, whatever he needs,
whoever we're at their serviceconcierge, I feel like a lot of
people not to cut you off, but Ifeel like a lot of people they,
they, they just think that theservice just means, hey, I'm
gonna get in and get out andcollect my bread, where a lot of
times it's really you sellingan experience.
Marandan Renea (05:53):
It's an experience, you know experience
and I take it very seriously,especially with my you know the
celebrity people and, of course,my brides like it's your moment
, it's your day.
Whatever it is you're trying toaccomplish, we need to make
sure it goes smoothly, and Itake that personal.
So if there's somebody in theroom getting on your nerves,
like, excuse me, ma'am, we'regonna have you to kindly exit
(06:15):
the room.
I'll be the bad guy.
I don't mind it.
I don't care if it's your mamalook you tearing up her nerves.
For the moment we just just needto get her calm.
So if you could just quietlyexit, we'll appreciate that.
Sean Febre (06:28):
Wedding's got to be kind of a stressful situation to
do because the bride wants tolook perfect.
I'm sure you've worked with acouple bridezillas before.
Marandan Renea (06:36):
Actually, the brides have never been my issue,
it's the bridesmaids.
Sean Febre (06:41):
Yeah, still.
Marandan Renea (06:42):
And I'm going to go ahead and tell this story.
Sweetheart, if you're mad, it'sgoing to be fine.
It's been years.
I hope you're over it.
But I had a bridesmaid becauseI do contracts with my brides
and I do a schedule and we'regoing to stick to the schedule.
So I allow everybody allows a15 minute grace period, so I
feel like that's fair.
So, especially if there's morethan five bridesmaids, because I
(07:07):
always save my brides for lastbecause she needs to be the
freshest.
So you need to be in your spotat the time I take to be there,
please.
This young lady had been giventhe bride issues since the
beginning, so she decided to gether nails done on the day of
the wedding, went that morningto get her nails done.
Of course, sometimes that takestime, so she went over her time
(07:27):
slot with me like by an hour.
Oh wow, I was packing upbecause the bride was done.
I was doing her finishingtouches.
This particular bride didn'task me to stay for anything else
, so I'm on my way out the door.
She come in, I'm here, I'm here.
Oh, my God, where do you wantme to sit?
Sweetheart, you can sitwherever you like.
I'm about to go.
(07:48):
So she was so upset Just whatam I supposed to do?
Sweetheart her the contract.
Like you missed your time slot.
So yeah, we take that serious.
Like you just can't just dowhat you want to do.
So yeah, the brides are notreally ever the issues.
Like I said, the bridesmaidssometimes.
Vince Serrano (08:10):
Did old girl get her makeup done or no?
Marandan Renea (08:14):
If she paid somebody else to do it.
Sean Febre (08:16):
I don't know I left.
I was going to ask like did shepay up front?
Pay you up front?
Marandan Renea (08:20):
The contract is the contract.
Right, right, yes, all up frontthe contract is the contract
right.
Sean Febre (08:24):
Yes, all fees are paid before I arrived.
So then she didn't get norefund, nothing right per the
contract yeah, yeah, yeah, no,she broke her end of the
contract in breach.
Marandan Renea (08:32):
So I don't know what she done, but it's just
like this is a business and Iand I felt bad.
But I did have another bookinglike and that's why I go per the
schedule.
So, yeah, my brides make, mybrides are great.
They know like most of the timethey know who I am already, so
they know how I operate andeverything was the bride cool.
Vince Serrano (08:54):
Like was the bride like?
Marandan Renea (08:55):
okay, yeah, I already told her and she was
already mad too because, like Isaid, all the events leading up
until that day, she wasconstantly late for rehearsals,
constantly late, late for this,constantly this Like you know,
kind of hater vibes, like girl Idon't know if they talk anymore
.
Do you see that a lot, though?
Do you see that a lot,bridesmaids, that kind of.
Vince Serrano (09:17):
Kind of with the hater vibes.
Marandan Renea (09:20):
You see it a lot .
You see it a lot you can tellwho will be there after the
wedding and then, 10 years later, I always can tell who will be
here and who wouldn't be.
Sean Febre (09:30):
I mean, I figure that that probably happens quite
a bit because they're a littlebit envious that their friend is
getting married and they'reprobably still single and
they're like I need to make thisall about me, and then there
are a lot that do that, bro,ain't that like?
Vince Serrano (09:43):
that's like some like therapy, like she probably
sees, like, oh, this one's like,this one's fucked up, this
one's trying to ruin this one,no wonder you ain't married yet,
that's gonna be the one rightthere.
I can tell you better watchthat girl right there you said
you had another booking afterthat.
Sean Febre (10:04):
So I mean, like how long are these bookings and how
long do you normally have themfor?
Marandan Renea (10:07):
Depending on the .
Sean Febre (10:09):
Like how many in a day?
Marandan Renea (10:11):
I usually don't do more than two.
Yeah, but for brunch weddings,because I think her wedding
started super early because likeshe had like brunch for her
reception and all that, so Istarted with her at 5 am.
The whole the bridesmaids partyand I had to drive an hour to
get there, so I was up at 1.
Vince Serrano (10:30):
And this was showing up an hour late, yeah.
Marandan Renea (10:33):
Girl.
I mean so, yeah, so I hadanother booking at.
It was that evening but it wasfor like a gala or something
like that, but I still had topack up, I had to drive that
extra hour, I had to switch.
It's just too much stuff for meto be like okay, girl, I'm
gonna take you, it's okay.
No, it's not okay.
Sean Febre (10:49):
So you got.
You got in at five.
How long did it take you?
Like how many girls?
Marandan Renea (10:55):
There were eight .
There were, I think I left bynight.
Sean Febre (11:01):
nine oh, so each one takes about 30 minutes.
It sounds like.
Marandan Renea (11:05):
Well, I had two girls there with me, so that we
can get them done.
Vince Serrano (11:08):
So you have a staff, you're not just out here.
This ain't a one person show.
How many employees do you have?
Marandan Renea (11:15):
No, no, no.
There are seven of us total,but some of my girls are in
South Carolina still, so I stillget calls and bookings to go
for South Carolina, and if theydon't want me, they have to take
them.
Vince Serrano (11:28):
Yeah.
Marandan Renea (11:30):
Now you have to fly me in because I'm not making
that drive.
Vince Serrano (11:32):
Yeah, so you delegate and you like a real
leader in your industry, likeyou're like hey look, we could
do this.
This is how it is Based on whatyou want this.
Marandan Renea (11:45):
I contract out other artists just depending on
how big the project is.
And then I have a friend, HanaAli.
Shout out to her.
She owns a makeup agency downin Georgia and we plan on
actually merging so that ourteam can be even bigger and we
can spread across more territory.
Just have Florida, Georgia andSouth Carolina on lock.
Sean Febre (12:02):
So are they like commission based 1099
contractors, or are they?
Marandan Renea (12:05):
W-2?
I have one hourly employee andthen everybody else to contract
it out.
Sean Febre (12:10):
How do people normally find you?
Do they go on your website and,like you, have a schedule on
there that people book, or dothey call you directly?
Is it all referral-based?
Marandan Renea (12:19):
My business right now is really
referral-based because eventhough I do weddings, my
weddings are strictly word ofmouth, just from people that
I've previously previously doneor clients that know me and like
, hey, my sister's gettingmarried and my this and that.
So getting married and herelately it's been more of my
celebrity clientele's familybecause I work with them and
(12:40):
then they have people gettingmarried and they'll call me up,
but mostly I've been hiringmyself out for production
projects.
Sean Febre (12:49):
What do you mean by that production?
Marandan Renea (12:51):
Because I'm a contractor with WWE.
It's not, like you know,employee-based, like they
contract you out and I contractmyself out to another company.
I can't really say the name ofthe project at the moment until
everything is solidified, butit's very exciting.
But yeah, then I contractmyself out to HSN or whoever
(13:15):
needs services.
Sean Febre (13:17):
Do you see that it's a little bit more difficult to
do makeup for live TV than it isto do it for weddings or
glamour events.
Marandan Renea (13:24):
It's all the same, it's all the same.
Weddings or glamour events,it's all the same.
It's all the same.
It doesn't matter, it's all thesame, it's all pressure, you
don't have to use some kind ofdifferent product or something
like that?
Sean Febre (13:31):
What?
If they sweat.
Are you touching up in thecommercial In terms of technique
?
Marandan Renea (13:34):
yes, different techniques that are used For my
brides.
Of course, it's layers ofdifferent things, because she
has to last all day yeah,because, honestly, I can do your
makeup to last you until thatnight.
If you want to pay me fortouching up honey, I'm going to
be right by your side all day.
But I really think it's justfor her to feel confident, like
(13:57):
like she's here for me, like,yeah, do me, because I'm really
just touching you, just because,because you still look flawless
eight hours later.
But I'm here for you, girl.
I got your champagne.
Oh, your lip.
Let me get you a little moregloss, not a problem for me.
Sean Febre (14:13):
What about dudes Are ?
Marandan Renea (14:15):
you.
We call that male grooming Malegrooming Because a lot of them
don't want to say that they haveon makeup.
It's male grooming.
Sean Febre (14:20):
But is it makeup?
Marandan Renea (14:22):
It's male grooming, but is it makeup?
It's makeup, but it's malegrooming.
Guys, do any of?
Vince Serrano (14:27):
them have issues with the same type of stuff that
you run into with the bride andstuff.
There are some guys that are alittle bit more Feminine,
demanding, not feminine, they'rejust a little bit more
particular Metrosexual men.
Marandan Renea (14:45):
I'll say that If they have a blemish or a
breakout or their skin is alittle bit red, of course they
want to look, even especially ifthey're on TV.
They want to look their besttoo.
But sometimes if I just put onlike a sheer, just a mattifier,
just so they won't be oily, andthey're like wait, like you see
(15:07):
this, I want this covered.
Oh my bad.
Okay, you want to get done.
Done, I got you.
Sean Febre (15:12):
So you know there's nothing how does it work with,
like, say, they shave their face?
I mean, they still got likestubble and shit like well,
that's a little bit different.
Marandan Renea (15:21):
Um, because sometimes on tv their face looks
green.
Almost you know what I'm sayingThen that makeup artist has no
clue what she's doing.
Sean Febre (15:28):
Yeah.
Marandan Renea (15:28):
It should be no green cast, no gray cast.
You should not look casketsharp on TV.
So yeah, she's not colorcorrecting something right.
But usually when guys areshaving and stuff, it's not a
matter of like covering up theirstubble, it's just more hiding
a little bit of theimperfections.
I've never really hidden ashaved beard unless I was doing
(15:48):
drag.
Yeah, oh man.
Vince Serrano (15:53):
You see, I'm all man.
You can hide my beard.
Marandan Renea (15:56):
No, not out of hair.
No, not out of hair.
No, I'm saying when they shave.
Vince Serrano (16:03):
you know you had hair Like that hair.
Marandan Renea (16:04):
No, I'm saying when they shave and you don't
want everybody to know.
You had hair Like damn dog no.
Vince Serrano (16:08):
You put a whole different man on there like a
whole different person.
Marandan Renea (16:11):
No, that's there .
Sean Febre (16:14):
So do you also, like , when you're doing male
grooming, like cut their hair,yeah.
Edge them up yeah, so you'realso a barber.
Marandan Renea (16:20):
Yeah, I've had a cosmetology license and my
first job was great clips.
I was cutting men's hair allday long.
Sean Febre (16:26):
Oh shit, so you could fade somebody up.
Marandan Renea (16:29):
Yeah, I cut my hair.
I'm going to have to shut down.
Vince Serrano (16:32):
Do you ever get issues with?
Because it is a service-based.
You know people who don't wantto pay after they've booked you.
Marandan Renea (16:43):
I don't get that , because they pay up front.
Yeah, I'm not even showing upif my fee isn't covered.
But have you had?
Vince Serrano (16:51):
people say hey look, I want to book you, and
then like, or, and they give youlike a deposit and then act
like brand new.
Marandan Renea (17:01):
At the beginning of my career, like when I was
just in the salon, I ran intothose issues, but not now.
They know, yeah, no.
Sean Febre (17:09):
What if they're like oh, I don't like what you did,
I'm not paying.
I mean that happens.
Vince Serrano (17:12):
Has that ever happened?
Sean Febre (17:13):
Yeah, even in the beginning In the beginning
absolutely, yeah several times,smack them in the back of the
head and say, no, you gotta pay.
Marandan Renea (17:20):
No, no, no, it's nothing like that.
Sean Febre (17:22):
You want to put a lien on your house.
Marandan Renea (17:25):
No, the thing of it is there's been times I
didn't satisfy a client and I'mjust like okay, I'll make it
right, I'll give you your moneyback, I will redo your hair Back
.
Then I did that If yougenuinely didn't like it.
Now there has been instanceswhere I had girls get weaves and
they'd be like uh-uh, I'm notpaying you, I don't like it.
(17:46):
And then I'd see them twomonths later with the same
hairstyle.
So yeah, different things likethat will happen in the industry
.
But now, like that's why I dotrial runs.
Like there are brides that if Idon't really know you like that
or I've never worked with you,a trial run is mandatory.
Like I have to give, you haveto do this with me, and then
(18:07):
they'll find out like oh yeah,this might be too much for me,
this might be too heavy, thismight be too, this too that, and
then we won't work togetheranymore and you just pay me for
your trial run and not for yourwedding day, or whatever a trial
run is when I do your hairmakeup before your event, um,
just to see how well we worktogether, if you like my
technique, if there's and, andalso if there's things that they
(18:30):
want to try that they haven'ttried before, um, the hairstyle
or whatever so they get theirhair done basically like twice,
like twice.
Vince Serrano (18:37):
That's what it sounds like.
Marandan Renea (18:38):
Yeah, yeah it's included in the package if they
decide to book with me.
But but if they decide to goanother route, then that's
completely fine, because thereare some brides that like, oh my
God, I want to look natural, Iwant to look this and I'm like,
but you reached out to me, I'm afull glam artist, like soft
glam, full glam.
But that Meghan Markle, likethat, completely nothing.
(19:00):
I can do that, but it's justnot my, that's not my thing,
that's that's not my brand.
Sean Febre (19:08):
So you can like almost make it look like they
have nothing on.
Marandan Renea (19:12):
Yeah, and just chisel out their features and
everything.
But I like to put it on baby.
I like glitz, glam, like, whynot?
I like structure.
Sean Febre (19:21):
I know you said you you're getting into production,
more production, makeup andglamour.
What about Hollywood?
What about it?
I don't know.
What about doing it for movies?
I would love to, I mean Atlantais a popular hub for filmmaking
now it is and I've done somereality TV stuff down there.
Marandan Renea (19:38):
But as far as doing movies you have to be in
the union and I've been lazy.
I know people in the union.
They've.
They've offered to help me getin.
There is a packet this big thatyou got to fill out.
I've just been lazy andhonestly, at this point, the
(20:00):
people that I know, the contactsthat I've made, if I want to
get in, like I'm pretty sure Icould call a person and call a
person to get in there.
Vince Serrano (20:07):
Yeah, it's not really your thing.
Marandan Renea (20:09):
I'm not pressed about it.
Sean Febre (20:11):
And they probably don't, you wouldn't make as much
money, either, I'm assuming, orwould you?
Marandan Renea (20:15):
They make good money.
It's just, I travel enough andsometimes, if productions are in
other places, you have to stayon set for however many weeks or
however many months, and if youdon't live in that city it's
hard.
And I have 50 little kids, likeI used to.
Going for a day or two, that'scool, but mommy being gone for a
(20:39):
couple weeks, for a month, thejuggernaut would not like that.
So no, it just depends, cool,but mommy being gone for a
couple weeks, for a month, thejuggernaut would not like that?
No, it just depends on thecircumstance and if the money
right we can make someadjustments.
Sean Febre (20:51):
Is Lorenzo your husband yes, oh, no way.
Marandan Renea (20:55):
Yes, I had no clue.
That's fake.
Sean Febre (20:58):
Yeah yeah, Because when I was doing some research I
saw your last name was Ferguson.
It just took me right now toput that together.
Marandan Renea (21:07):
Yeah, don't even say that name.
No more on this podcast.
Get that paperwork changed assoon as I can.
That's a process too, I got toget that off of there.
Sean Febre (21:21):
You didn't tell me that.
Vince Serrano (21:23):
You know, I figured you put two and two
together.
Sean Febre (21:25):
No, I'm not that smart.
Marandan Renea (21:28):
Yeah, legally that's what it is, but I got to
get that paperwork changed.
Sean Febre (21:32):
Yeah, that's cool, so all right.
So doing those kinds of filmsis not really something that you
want to pursue at this moment.
Marandan Renea (21:41):
It kind of sounds like right films is not
really something that you wantto pursue at this moment.
It kind of sounds like right.
I mean I like I said, if thecircumstances are right, if the
money is right, if we can workthat out, then we can explore it
, but it's just not somethingthat I'm pursuing what do you
mean by joining the union?
Sean Febre (21:54):
what union do you have to join?
I?
Marandan Renea (21:56):
can't even remember the initials of it is a
sag after a problem.
Vince Serrano (22:00):
Is that what it is?
Marandan Renea (22:02):
Something like that you have to apply for it.
It's a whole hair and makeupunion.
Sean Febre (22:07):
And then you probably have to pay union dues.
You have to pay?
Marandan Renea (22:11):
Yes, a couple thousand dollars to get in.
Vince Serrano (22:13):
It's the mob, basically it's the mob that's
really what it is.
Sean Febre (22:17):
It's the mob of Hollywood.
Marandan Renea (22:18):
But that's how they book out people for movies.
Sean Febre (22:23):
Yeah, and TV shows, but they never book contractors,
it sounds like.
Marandan Renea (22:27):
That's not true, like there are depending on,
like the artists.
Sean Febre (22:30):
Like if the Avengers call and they're like we want
you hey, then I can come.
I'm on the first plane out ofhere.
Marandan Renea (22:39):
Yeah, because if my girl Jay get on up in there,
you know they can choose theirartist.
They don't necessarily have togo that route.
I don't think I've seen peoplethat aren't in the union do hair
and makeup for talent in theirown shows and stuff like that,
so I'm sure there's other waysin.
Sean Febre (22:59):
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And I want to know how did youmake that jump from working at a
salon and thinking to yourselfyou know, I'm going to start my
own business.
Marandan Renea (23:37):
Did someone say, hey, can you maybe do an event,
or how exactly did that takeoff for you?
So in being in a salon, likeaside from working at Grey Clips
, I kind of jumped into BoothRental, which is ultimately
owning your own business, andthen I just started wanting more
.
Doing hair and makeup is likewell, at first I was just doing
(23:59):
hair.
I wasn't doing makeup at thetime when I had first started
getting out of cosmetologyschool, and it's just like the
ladies come in and you know weswitch stuff up weekly sometimes
, like I had clients come inevery week and it's just like it
was cool.
But I just wanted to do more.
I wanted to be more impactful.
I felt like my purpose, even inthe industry, was to work with
(24:24):
people that felt like theycouldn't necessarily be
themselves or they had to beperfect all the time.
And because I was always thevoice of reason, like I'm coming
in like girl, calm down, it'sOK.
Like they don't love you, it'scool.
Oh, my God, I haven't eaten inthree days.
I'm like, wait a minute minuteeat this sandwich.
I won't tell nobody and so fromthere, I started taking classes
(24:47):
all over the country um camedown for hair and makeup I
started taking classes, um, andthen I started working with some
of the leading people in theindustry because I would take
classes from them, becausethere's something about once you
do get into certain rooms, likeif they like you like, like
they're going to invite you back.
So I started working with TedGibson, john Raymond they are
(25:10):
leading guys in the fashionindustry and they're like hey,
we want to add you to the team.
So that's how I got into NewYork Fashion Week.
I started going back and forthdoing different shows with them
and I worked with the biggestdesigners in the industry I
can't even name them all, justgoing back and forth doing that.
(25:30):
So in meeting people going backand forth to New York or
California, I just started beingasked to do certain things
Meeting photographers andproducers and just started
networking from just being inthe room.
So it just kind of grew fromthere, me being able to do hair
and makeup for other things fromthen behind the chair.
Vince Serrano (25:52):
When you also go ahead.
I was going to ask, like, forsomebody who's up and coming,
who's about like, like, oh man,I just got invited to go work
with a fashion designer in NewYork Fashion Week.
What advice would you givesomebody to get like hey, this
is my first time.
Tell me what I got to do to getcalled back.
Marandan Renea (26:13):
They definitely need to be professional,
punctual.
They actually need to look thepart, because you can't go up
there with your hair a mess.
You need to look decent andlisten.
You have to listen.
I feel like a lot of peoplethese days, like they think they
know everything.
So you're talking to people oh,I got that.
Oh, I know they are.
(26:34):
Do this Like listen, even ifyou think you know, because I'm
not going to lie.
There were some times I wasthere and I'm a black woman.
I work with our texture hair.
I have done it millions of timesand I watched the lead
hairstylist struggle with a girlfrom Africa and her texture was
(26:55):
tightly coiled, it was thick,it was coarse and he's trying to
put this look that he's put oneverybody else with fine hair,
wavy hair, and he was strugglingand I'm just sitting there like
, okay, I do not try to be aknow-it-all.
In these situations you have tohumble yourself and listen to
(27:15):
them and then, when you arecalled upon, shine.
So when I'm standing there andhe looking at me, he's sweating
at this point and he was like doyou know another way to do this
?
Absolutely excuse me.
And then I went in there andwhipped that thing up and made
her look as close to the desiredlook for the designer and of
course it wasn't going to be thesame because she had different
hair texture but he was like, ohmy god, you made it look so
(27:37):
easy.
When it's your time to show your, your technique and your skill,
then do it, but don't do it ina way that's like you don't know
what you're doing.
Move out the way, just that.
Sean Febre (27:50):
That would be my advice so you're also associated
with uh makeup, mastery ofbusiness and beauty right makeup
mastery of business makeup moboh, the mob, hannah's business.
Vince Serrano (28:03):
Yes, my friend.
Marandan Renea (28:05):
We collab together to go overseas and do
different classes.
We've done a class in PutsaKanadiyar last year.
Sean Febre (28:13):
This year is in Jamaica, can you tell us a
little bit more about that.
What exactly is it?
Marandan Renea (28:18):
So she has a makeup agency and she just she
hires different artists and it'spretty much the same thing that
I do.
And we go way back.
We've known each other almost15 years and she's just in
Atlanta, so she does a lot ofproduction, a lot of music
videos.
She's worked with me at theother, the other wrestling
(28:39):
company that I worked for, me atthe other wrestling company
that I worked for, and she hiresout her clients to do different
things for makeup, because youknow Atlanta's Black Hollywood.
Sean Febre (28:49):
So there's always things going on down there.
Are you finding that the moreyou collab with people, the
bigger you're getting, the moreinfluential that you're getting,
the more celebrities that youcan work with, the more
everything, the more everything.
Marandan Renea (29:01):
People who try to gatekeep and work to
themselves will never getanywhere.
I definitely aspire to have theseven figures and above.
I aspire to live nicely.
I aspire to be able to continuemy outreach.
You need money to do that.
In order to get the kind ofmoney you need, you need more
hands.
(29:21):
So collaboration and network iskey to everything that you're
trying to accomplish, becauseyou can't do it alone.
Sean Febre (29:29):
Would you say social media has played a big role on
your rise.
Absolutely and if so, whichlike platform in general?
Marandan Renea (29:36):
Instagram has been my staple.
I'm not big on tiktok and allthat.
I have an account.
I was tiktoking during thepandemic, just weird stuff and
and kind of grew a followingfrom that, just because people
got to see a different side ofme, because I am very goofy.
So you're like girl, you I hadno idea you was this stupid.
Sean Febre (29:57):
I'm like, yeah, a little ignorant steering there,
but, like for business,instagram has been cute for me
yeah and uh, any tips for peopletrying to grow their following
post every day, or some shit,you know what?
Marandan Renea (30:13):
I can't even sit here and tell a lie.
I have not mastered a strategyfor that.
I show up on that platform.
When I show up, I try to put mybest foot forward there.
I will say collaborating doesmake a difference, like when the
wrestlers collab with me, theirfollowers start being
interested in what I'm doing.
(30:33):
So that has been a great thingfor me.
And collaborate and do thingsthat speak to you.
Like there's a lot of peoplethat will veer off into
different avenues on theirplatforms and it's just like
they don't know what you'redoing.
Like even on your pages.
When I look at your page andyou're telling me that you do
hair and makeup but you got allthese different pictures of
(30:58):
different things and what you'reeating and all that and I'm not
saying not to put that on there, but there's a place to put it
on there for the initial review.
When people go to book you orwant to look up and see what
you're doing, they need to lookat your page and know exactly
what's going on.
Then you can have a little tabfor food, tab for for Bay life,
tab for vacation.
But you need to be consistentin what you doing.
(31:18):
It needs to look like whatyou're preaching.
Sean Febre (31:21):
It almost makes sense to have that, where you
just add it to your story and,like you said, you have those
highlight reels at the top, orat least at the bottom, and
rename it everything that youknow.
That's exactly what I did,instead of posting, say, a
picture of you, you know,sliding down a water slide in
Adventure Island, or some shitlike that Exactly.
Marandan Renea (31:38):
Exactly.
And then I have a wholeseparate page for my private
life with me and bae, becausethe sexy pictures, sex sales,
all of that.
But when a bride is trying tofind somebody to do her hand
makeup, you got to be around, myman.
Vince Serrano (31:58):
It's like oh no, her ass too fat.
Marandan Renea (32:00):
We ain't doing that we can't have her running
off in the makeup artist.
So you know I do me like, mybrand is very sexy and I am who
I am.
However, I don't overdo it onthat page because I don't want
them to be like, yeah, nah.
Vince Serrano (32:16):
No, when you're working with, like the wrestlers
right, because I've seen thatthey'll actually share your
stories and especially becauseyou've you've got like a big uh,
like you play such a part inhow they look like when they
come out on tv, like your styleis being shown.
Marandan Renea (32:36):
that's your work that's your walking billboard
literally, my makeup is is onaction figures and shit.
That's what I'm saying.
So how does that feel Like.
Vince Serrano (32:45):
How does that like?
And how did you, how did youlike, figure that out?
Like, how did you figure outthat kind of look, because it's
not the normal, like when youdid Jade Cargill, like you drew
a line down the middle of herface.
Like to other people thatmight've been like what the hell
is going on right here.
Right, people that might havebeen like what the hell is going
on right here, right, can youget it up on the screen?
Sean Febre (33:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, damn right, I want to
see that.
Marandan Renea (33:05):
Well, when?
We're creating straight down weshow how symmetrical she is in
life, how perfectly balanced shecan be, as this wrestler, as a
mother, as this entertainer, asyou're also doing like creative
makeup.
Yeah, you're not just doing ohokay, boom makeup, that's it
(33:28):
yeah, and then, and depending onthe the angle that they're in,
like you the heel, you the babyface, like let's, let's play on
this, let's figure out what wecan do, and and jade is into a
lot of like futuristic shit.
She's very creative, she.
She's like I'm wearing this,like here's my outfit, and
that's really pretty much allshe has to show.
(33:50):
Like she'll show me her gearand I'm just like okay, this is
what I think we should have theone with the one yeah, she's,
she's actually.
Vince Serrano (33:57):
This is the one right here where she's doing it
like a couple of them, like yousee, that is the look, like
she's literally on TV with thelook, and then like the one
where she's going and she'sdoing the Damn, she's really
pretty yeah.
And this is like, this is areal live, like wrestler, like
she's it, like where the one.
Marandan Renea (34:18):
I took the one of my.
You can keep scrolling.
Okay, I just took that one downoff of my thing.
I was trying to clean up mypage a little bit you have an
amazing page.
Vince Serrano (34:28):
Though the aesthetic of your page looks
amazing, are?
Sean Febre (34:30):
you the one that's controlling all of it, or like
posting everything?
Marandan Renea (34:34):
yeah.
Vince Serrano (34:36):
I like creating all my things she's got like a
great story when you're goingthrough.
Sean Febre (34:41):
She's a soccer player.
Vince Serrano (34:42):
She's got a great story of when you're going
through-.
Sean Febre (34:42):
She should be coming up in a minute.
Yeah, she's a soccer player.
Marandan Renea (34:46):
She's the referee for AW.
I can't remember.
It must be on down.
Sean Febre (34:51):
I'll go on the Reels page.
Wait, wait, wait, go down onemore One.
Oh, okay, no, it's all on.
Marandan Renea (34:57):
Yeah, yeah, I mean so that was probably a
million.
Vince Serrano (35:06):
She's drawing a line right down.
Sean Febre (35:09):
You can play the audio.
Marandan Renea (35:11):
And she did.
She trusted that whatever Idone to her, she was like, yeah,
let's do it.
I'm with it, oh shit.
Sean Febre (35:22):
Oh, you went all the way down, all the way.
You cut her in half.
Marandan Renea (35:27):
I did.
All the way down the breathline I did.
I had to literally hold mybreath to make sure that line
was perfectly straight.
Vince Serrano (35:40):
This is something that people don't even like.
You're not.
You're not.
You're not creating like.
You're not doing what otherpeople are doing.
You're creating your like.
You're not doing what otherpeople are doing.
You're creating your own styleand you're demonstrating it,
like on live TV.
Like this is like hey, do theyrock with this or not?
(36:01):
And every single time it's beenpretty dope.
So it's like how do you come upwith those ideas?
And how did the wrestlers?
Are the wrestlers just likeyeah, do whatever you want, okay
, well, Jade and I like she'llsend me pictures and stuff.
Marandan Renea (36:17):
Like she'll send me like 35 pictures and I'm
looking at them and I'm justlike, okay, like ideas, like
yeah, just throwing things outthere.
And then, as I'm lookingthrough it and I'll be like what
you like about this one, whatdo you like about this one?
Like we, as I'm looking throughit and I'm like what you like
about this one, what do you likeabout this one?
Like we'll go through, andshe'd be like I like the eyes on
this, I like this on this, andeventually I'd be like, okay, I
(36:37):
might take like an idea from apic, a part of the picture, but
ultimately it's just like, yeah,simple is better, like that
would be a whole statement,cause it was a picture.
The girl had like lines going,she's like an avatar.
And I was just like we don'thave to do all that.
(36:57):
Like you want to lookfuturistic, we can do the silver
eyeshadow, but let's just putone line down there, one
balanced line, like one streamline, like just keep it simple.
And she, she was like yes, isthat like body paint, almost?
Yep, mehron.
Sean Febre (37:12):
Metallic paint.
How does that like?
How do you get?
Marandan Renea (37:20):
that off Because I mean she's sweating in the
shower.
You're going to shower.
Sometimes alcohol Like I dohave to make sure it stays
because, like, even after thatmatch it was there and of course
I had to.
I actually had to go throughand scrub it off and redo her
makeup so that she could do herpost interviews and all See.
Sean Febre (37:37):
That's what I'm saying.
So it's not just doing themakeup, it's also removing the
makeup too Heck.
Marandan Renea (37:41):
Yeah, you got to establish that kind of
confidence with these wrestlers,though right, flip it in five
to ten minutes, because actuallyafter Wrestlemania in Vegas,
this time, um, her hairstylistwas back there, um, switching
out her hairstyle, and I was inthe upper room and they were
like Jade has a segment in about20 minutes and I was like what?
(38:03):
And I went back there and I waslike girl, let me start with
her, because I know you got tobe gone in about 18 minutes now.
She was like what you talkingabout?
She had no clue that she evenhad another interview.
Not only was it an interview, itwas live, in front of hundreds
of people right outside of thestadium.
People were cheering for herand all kinds of stuff.
(38:24):
I need to post that.
But me and her hairstylist hadto do full glam curls, redo her
face, everything I kid you notin like nine minutes, jesus.
And in that moment you have toknow when to cut corners, like
(38:48):
when to leave some things out,but still make it look like a
full face.
So that's when your skillreally come out when you only
have 10 minutes to make it looklike you spent two hours.
Vince Serrano (38:52):
When that pressure's on right.
Sean Febre (38:53):
Well not only that, but you're working around the
hairstylist too.
Yes, so it's two people on onehead, we are all.
Marandan Renea (38:59):
And then Jade's hair is white, so I have to be
careful not to touch anything upin there Like it's a lot going
on.
Sean Febre (39:06):
Did you ever get burned by a curling iron from
the hairstylist while you'redoing the makeup?
Marandan Renea (39:11):
Oh no, not from the hairstylist.
I can say I've burnt myself, Ihave yeah, Well, I'm going to
say you guys Ha In part againJust waiting on there just
trying to get the stuff togetherand fumbling.
That's why I'm a messy artist.
Sean Febre (39:27):
Like I have stuff everywhere but I get the job
done.
Damn, five minutes to go from.
Vince Serrano (39:30):
Yes, that's gotta be stressful, Bro, this is
Wrestlemania too, man, this isnot like hey, this is like.
Sean Febre (39:35):
This is like the biggest wrestling event of the
year, right For WWE or WE WWEyeah.
No, I think it's WE now isn't?
Vince Serrano (39:43):
it yeah.
Marandan Renea (39:44):
I thought it was WWE.
Sean Febre (39:45):
It's WWE.
Oh, I thought they changed that.
Vince Serrano (39:47):
No no.
Marandan Renea (39:52):
WWF, right, that's.
Don't they change that?
No, no, you know, wwf, right,that's what it used to be yeah,
yeah, huge.
Sean Febre (39:54):
So many people, so much pressure.
That must have been wild,though, because I mean, you're
behind the scenes, right?
Do you ever see them, like youknow, when they do the skits and
and shit like that?
Do you ever see them wherethey're running around?
And I see cameras following.
I see everything you ever tryto maybe just pop your head in
the camera.
Marandan Renea (40:08):
No, no, but I have been in several promos,
like the guys, like when I'mbraiding hair and stuff and I'm
sitting there just doing mything and they just straight up
and I'm like, and they be like,can we out here?
We look good, we feel good, mymakeup artists look good and I'm
like, oh yeah, dude.
Vince Serrano (40:27):
I have to get in character right quick Like oh I
didn't know you was going toinclude me.
Marandan Renea (40:30):
Include me Like I'm in the shot.
But yeah, sometimes I got toyou know, play my part,
especially like Jay just put mein her promos before and I got
to you know.
Vince Serrano (40:41):
So like right, when they're cutting those, like
those shit-talking pieces,right, you're like literally
working.
Marandan Renea (40:50):
So like I was literally braiding hair and he
was like I'm like, yeah, go doyour thing, do your thing, I got
you, it's fine, it's fine areyou ever watching like the
matches, like in the stands whenyou go there, or you're just
looking at it on tv in the back,just I?
Will go like when my girls gogirls go out I will go out on
(41:13):
the side to watch them walk outthe stage and to see how my
makeup looks on the jumbotrons.
Like that's a big thing for me.
Like I'm like oh my God, youcan see every detail.
Make sure that you know,because that right there is
scary too.
Like you do a face and you messaround and not color match
correctly or not blend somethingout, like the internet is
(41:34):
vicious, they will crucify you,like why the hell was her face
orange and her neck was brown?
Like yeah, that type of thinghappens, not to me.
Vince Serrano (41:45):
But you've seen it.
Marandan Renea (41:46):
I have seen it, and it does keep me on my toes.
Vince Serrano (41:50):
I'm on my feet.
Shannon Sharp had that one time.
They were crucified as makeupartists because he was looking
like.
Shannon Sharp is a black man,but I'm saying his texture, his
color is dark.
And they had my dog lookinglike he was the Incredible Hulk.
He was like with the greenish,like the greenish black.
It looked like it was too much.
Sean Febre (42:11):
It's crazy because she's wearing, um, you know,
nothing in her midriff, so doyou have to make up like her
whole body?
Marandan Renea (42:18):
no, no, no.
You just have to be that onpoint to make sure that her face
matches her body so it's justabsolutely, and that's, that's
training, that's repetitiveness.
Like you have to keep doing thatand know and have the eye for
it.
That's why everybody thinksthey can be a makeup artist.
There's so many things that gointo that.
(42:38):
Going to YouTube University isnot enough.
You can watch it.
There's a lot of girls thatlook on it and it's pretty.
But doing it on differentpeople.
Our face structures aredifferent.
Even for hair, our textures aredifferent.
Like there's a lot of differentthings going on.
You have to know how tohighlight and contour those
different faces, which is whyI'm really good at what I do.
(42:59):
Like I can insinuate your bestfeatures and hide the things
that you don't like very well,because the devil's in the
details.
And I study.
Like I can sit here, I can seehow to rearrange your whole
everything.
Like I study people.
That's your job, like you'relooking at it.
And to make sure everything issymmetric and all of the things.
Vince Serrano (43:21):
Have you seen it where it's like I ain't going to
lie, like I'm very picky withmy girl because I feel like my
woman is very natural?
Marandan Renea (43:29):
looking.
She's naturally beautiful.
Vince Serrano (43:30):
Right girl, because I feel like my woman is
very natural looking beautifulright and I hate when they
overdo her makeup where they,she looks like she's plastic and
that's the thing like,especially for the things that
you do, like when you're out andy'all are going to these events
and things like that.
Marandan Renea (43:46):
Heavy makeup should never be more, especially
in florida yeah your woman canjust need a good glow to her Big
fire.
Of course, I know exactly whatto do in the event.
What's to do it?
When you are plastering onmakeup, it's because you're
under those bright lights, it'sbecause you're in front of that
TV or you're about to be takinga lot of pictures.
But when people show up and seeyou putting all that on and
(44:07):
caking it, it's like a tea.
Vince Serrano (44:09):
Who are you?
And what'd you do with my wife?
Marandan Renea (44:11):
And a lot of men don't like it.
Sean Febre (44:14):
I didn't see my wife without makeup for like fuck
man, like a year.
Wow, I was like I thought thatwas your face.
Marandan Renea (44:22):
Okay, oh wow.
Vince Serrano (44:27):
How did you feel, though, knowing that she took
it off?
Sean Febre (44:30):
I was like well, y'all a bunch of liars.
Vince Serrano (44:33):
Oh, it is true, they do be lying, yeah, because
sometimes you can't even fuckingtell.
Sean Febre (44:39):
I mean, it's like to the point where I was, like
okay, so that's how she looks.
Marandan Renea (44:42):
My man met me without makeup.
That's cool, that's good, Idon't wear makeup all the time
doing this kind of course, butmy normal day to day like.
That's why you gotta keep yourskin together.
Wear makeup, especially it'shot and humid, like here,
especially in Florida.
Vince Serrano (45:01):
Yeah, I feel like that's a thing, though, bro,
you were talking about it,though like I feel like seeing
like you meet somebody and thenyou see them without it and it's
almost like yo, where are youreyebrows?
Sean Febre (45:17):
Those were drawn on Yo, what the hell.
Vince Serrano (45:20):
Damn.
I'm not judging, but I need youto go put them back on.
Damn.
You know what I'm saying that'scool.
Marandan Renea (45:29):
That's cool, bro .
My men tell me a lot of mendon't like makeup.
That's why, like I'm at thestore and I don't have my, my
kids with me and men be tryingto talk to me and stuff with my
kids and my daughter like, geton somewhere, my daddy at the
house and it's like every time.
It's when I don't have on makeup, like and that's something that
I talk about and I touch myselfbecause learning how to
(45:51):
assimilate yourself and makeyourself feel beautiful but
still look natural is a thing,Even though, like, that's not
what I do for, like my broadsand stuff, that's not my style
Every day.
You don't need to place that onevery day.
I'm sorry.
I'm sure your wife is lovely,but there's no reason why she
would have to wear it all dayevery day Now she doesn't wear
(46:12):
it at all.
Sean Febre (46:13):
She shouldn't have to Married like seven years
almost.
Marandan Renea (46:18):
She shouldn't have to.
Vince Serrano (46:19):
Are you happy about that?
Yeah, I'm fine with that.
See, that's good, bro, it'swhen you're not, you just
shouldn't.
Marandan Renea (46:24):
It's just like I didn't know you shouldn't catch
your man off guard when youtake your face off.
Catch your man off guard whenyou take your face off.
Sean Febre (46:30):
That's all I'm saying.
That's all I'm saying.
I didn't know you wore makeup.
Marandan Renea (46:32):
That's good that you didn't know.
Sean Febre (46:34):
So we're coming down to you know, a final couple
minutes here.
How can they find you?
Marandan Renea (46:41):
You can put Miranda Renee in any search
engine and all of my things popup.
I am consistent across theboard with all my accounts, even
the ones that I'm not as activeon, but Instagram is Miranda
Renee, facebook, twitter,snapchat.
My website is Miranda Renee.
Sean Febre (47:01):
Any advice for the folks out there.
It could be anything.
It could be about business,personal life, makeup.
Don't hide your face for a yearno, don't do that.
Marandan Renea (47:12):
My overall advice is just whatever it is
that you're doing, make surethat you are happy, because in
all things, if your happiness iscompromised, like, you're not
gonna be your best at anythingand that's a miserable ass life
I love it.
Sean Febre (47:28):
Alright, guys, we're wrapping up happy hour holidays
.
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Have a great rest of your daysand cheers to your future.
Welcome to Happy Hour Holidays.
I am your host today, SeanFabre.
We got our co-host, VinceSerrano.
What's up?
Vince Serrano (00:08):
I am Vince Serrano.
I am Vince Serrano, YoungestCity Yacht Club Happy Hour
Holidays guest co-host.
Sean Febre (00:14):
Co-host.
Yeah, I mean, manny, we'remissing you today.
I know that you're moving andyou just bought another house,
so congrats on that Kind ofsucks.
You couldn't make it.
Today.
Our guest is Miranda Renee, whois a entrepreneur and mainly
dabbles in makeup, but alsosells products, correct?
Marandan Renea (00:36):
I sell a lot of things.
Sean Febre (00:38):
She sells herself.
Marandan Renea (00:39):
She sells like not like that, though Not like
that you are a brand, thoughshe's a beast now, and you've
worked with WWE wrestlers yes,jade and Bianca.
Sean Febre (00:56):
You've also done some shows where Drake was
involved as well, correct?
Marandan Renea (01:00):
Well, drake was there, okay, and then we just
had a little dinner Not likethat.
It was a business setting.
Everybody was there.
But, yes, I got to meet Drakeat a show.
Sean Febre (01:12):
And you also have done New York Fashion Week.
Marandan Renea (01:15):
New York Fashion Week, bridal Fashion Week,
men's Fashion Week all of theweeks in New York I have done
them.
Sean Febre (01:21):
So can you tell us a little about your background?
How did you?
Marandan Renea (01:30):
get into this kind of industry?
What got you motivated to be?
Is it a cosmetologist?
Is that what you call yourself?
I am a licensed cosmetologistand a licensed instructor, and
I've been doing hair since I wassix.
So in high school I got mycosmetology license and
graduated, so I had to trade at18.
So I've never really worked ajob.
This is all I've done.
Sean Febre (01:52):
So then you got into it just from the jump.
Marandan Renea (01:54):
From the jump right out of high school.
Sean Febre (01:56):
And you're not from Tampa Florida, are you I?
Marandan Renea (01:58):
am not.
I'm from South Carolina.
Sean Febre (01:59):
And why did you decide to move from South
Carolina to here?
Let's hear the story, let's getit.
Marandan Renea (02:05):
Okay, born and raised in South Carolina, I met
my boo in Florida and we havejust been.
We've gone from Orlando toJacksonville to now Tampa and
we're loving Tampa.
We think we're going to setroots here.
Vince Serrano (02:21):
Oh, okay, that's what I'm talking about, man.
You heard that Tampa is theplace to be y'all it is, I love
it, I love it.
Sean Febre (02:28):
And so can you tell the audience what exactly it is
that you do in your business.
Marandan Renea (02:34):
Yes, so I have a hair and makeup business.
It's a concierge business, sowe do weddings, but we also do
events, red carpets.
So we do weddings, but we alsodo events, red carpets.
I hire out people forproduction, so people that are
doing small films or book coversor whatever made up for
(02:55):
podcasts, whatever it is Like.
I send a team to them.
If they want me, I'll go out,but you know my fee is a little
bit different.
But, yeah, so beauty services.
And then I also do hair andmakeup classes.
I do online classes, in-personclasses.
I just started Well, I didn'tjust start it, I just started
back up my classes forbridesmaids Because, for some
(03:18):
reason, bridesmaids don't wantto pay the fee, even though they
know the wedding was coming fora whole year.
You could have put your $20 tothe side, but that's okay, just
$20?
.
They could have put it to theside to pay us up in a year.
They just don't want to spendthe money.
But it's fine, because now Ihave a bridesmaids class, all
the girls can get together.
I'm going to teach you to lookat the bride.
(03:38):
I want you to have your hair,your makeup.
I'll even bring a little drink,a drink.
We can make it fun.
There we go A little appetizer,but now I have a class for that,
so I'm going to be lunchingthat soon.
But that's pretty much what Ido in my business.
Sean Febre (03:50):
And you also have something on your website that
is interesting, what you calledit I Touch Myself, I Touch
Myself.
Marandan Renea (03:56):
What is?
Sean Febre (03:57):
that exactly.
Marandan Renea (03:58):
I Touch Myself.
It is a play on words, howeverit words, however, it can get a
little nasty, if you like thatit's really sensual hair and
makeup videos to teach women, um, how to care for themselves,
how to fall in love withthemselves, women empowerment,
um, and I do.
I have a series of videosasking some women like how do
(04:19):
you touch yourself?
And if her answer is literal, Idon it.
However, it could be.
They like to go to the beachand read a book, and they feel
they're most beautiful when theytake a bath and put oil on or
when they are havingconversations with their girls,
whatever that thing is thatmakes them dig deep and feel
(04:42):
great about themselves is howyou touch yourself.
So that's what the whole seriesis about.
Sean Febre (04:46):
So what you called it a concierge service.
Can you elaborate a little bitabout that, because I keep
hearing people use that word andI'm not entirely sure what it
means.
Marandan Renea (04:57):
For me, it means like it's just at your service,
like we'll pull up and show upwherever you are, wherever you
need the service to be, whateveryou need, because this is a
service-based business, which iswhy I don't understand why a
lot of hair and makeup artistsget the big head when they you
know they out here and they popand they you know, I understand,
(05:18):
like you you're very talentedis great, but it's service-based
.
We are still here to serve ourclient.
So if our client is crying andshe needs some eye drops or
whatever that means we're, we'regonna be there to get it for
her.
I mean, she is paying the feefor the services.
Vince Serrano (05:35):
So whatever she needs, whatever he needs,
whoever we're at their serviceconcierge, I feel like a lot of
people not to cut you off, but Ifeel like a lot of people they,
they, they just think that theservice just means, hey, I'm
gonna get in and get out andcollect my bread, where a lot of
times it's really you sellingan experience.
Marandan Renea (05:53):
It's an experience, you know experience
and I take it very seriously,especially with my you know the
celebrity people and, of course,my brides like it's your moment
, it's your day.
Whatever it is you're trying toaccomplish, we need to make
sure it goes smoothly, and Itake that personal.
So if there's somebody in theroom getting on your nerves,
like, excuse me, ma'am, we'regonna have you to kindly exit
(06:15):
the room.
I'll be the bad guy.
I don't mind it.
I don't care if it's your mamalook you tearing up her nerves.
For the moment we just just needto get her calm.
So if you could just quietlyexit, we'll appreciate that.
Sean Febre (06:28):
Wedding's got to be kind of a stressful situation to
do because the bride wants tolook perfect.
I'm sure you've worked with acouple bridezillas before.
Marandan Renea (06:36):
Actually, the brides have never been my issue,
it's the bridesmaids.
Sean Febre (06:41):
Yeah, still.
Marandan Renea (06:42):
And I'm going to go ahead and tell this story.
Sweetheart, if you're mad, it'sgoing to be fine.
It's been years.
I hope you're over it.
But I had a bridesmaid becauseI do contracts with my brides
and I do a schedule and we'regoing to stick to the schedule.
So I allow everybody allows a15 minute grace period, so I
feel like that's fair.
So, especially if there's morethan five bridesmaids, because I
(07:07):
always save my brides for lastbecause she needs to be the
freshest.
So you need to be in your spotat the time I take to be there,
please.
This young lady had been giventhe bride issues since the
beginning, so she decided to gether nails done on the day of
the wedding, went that morningto get her nails done.
Of course, sometimes that takestime, so she went over her time
(07:27):
slot with me like by an hour.
Oh wow, I was packing upbecause the bride was done.
I was doing her finishingtouches.
This particular bride didn'task me to stay for anything else
, so I'm on my way out the door.
She come in, I'm here, I'm here.
Oh, my God, where do you wantme to sit?
Sweetheart, you can sitwherever you like.
I'm about to go.
(07:48):
So she was so upset Just whatam I supposed to do?
Sweetheart her the contract.
Like you missed your time slot.
So yeah, we take that serious.
Like you just can't just dowhat you want to do.
So yeah, the brides are notreally ever the issues.
Like I said, the bridesmaidssometimes.
Vince Serrano (08:10):
Did old girl get her makeup done or no?
Marandan Renea (08:14):
If she paid somebody else to do it.
Sean Febre (08:16):
I don't know I left.
I was going to ask like did shepay up front?
Pay you up front?
Marandan Renea (08:20):
The contract is the contract.
Right, right, yes, all up frontthe contract is the contract
right.
Sean Febre (08:24):
Yes, all fees are paid before I arrived.
So then she didn't get norefund, nothing right per the
contract yeah, yeah, yeah, no,she broke her end of the
contract in breach.
Marandan Renea (08:32):
So I don't know what she done, but it's just
like this is a business and Iand I felt bad.
But I did have another bookinglike and that's why I go per the
schedule.
So, yeah, my brides make, mybrides are great.
They know like most of the timethey know who I am already, so
they know how I operate andeverything was the bride cool.
Vince Serrano (08:54):
Like was the bride like?
Marandan Renea (08:55):
okay, yeah, I already told her and she was
already mad too because, like Isaid, all the events leading up
until that day, she wasconstantly late for rehearsals,
constantly late, late for this,constantly this Like you know,
kind of hater vibes, like girl Idon't know if they talk anymore
.
Do you see that a lot, though?
Do you see that a lot,bridesmaids, that kind of.
Vince Serrano (09:17):
Kind of with the hater vibes.
Marandan Renea (09:20):
You see it a lot .
You see it a lot you can tellwho will be there after the
wedding and then, 10 years later, I always can tell who will be
here and who wouldn't be.
Sean Febre (09:30):
I mean, I figure that that probably happens quite
a bit because they're a littlebit envious that their friend is
getting married and they'reprobably still single and
they're like I need to make thisall about me, and then there
are a lot that do that, bro,ain't that like?
Vince Serrano (09:43):
that's like some like therapy, like she probably
sees, like, oh, this one's like,this one's fucked up, this
one's trying to ruin this one,no wonder you ain't married yet,
that's gonna be the one rightthere.
I can tell you better watchthat girl right there you said
you had another booking afterthat.
Sean Febre (10:04):
So I mean, like how long are these bookings and how
long do you normally have themfor?
Marandan Renea (10:07):
Depending on the .
Sean Febre (10:09):
Like how many in a day?
Marandan Renea (10:11):
I usually don't do more than two.
Yeah, but for brunch weddings,because I think her wedding
started super early because likeshe had like brunch for her
reception and all that, so Istarted with her at 5 am.
The whole the bridesmaids partyand I had to drive an hour to
get there, so I was up at 1.
Vince Serrano (10:30):
And this was showing up an hour late, yeah.
Marandan Renea (10:33):
Girl.
I mean so, yeah, so I hadanother booking at.
It was that evening but it wasfor like a gala or something
like that, but I still had topack up, I had to drive that
extra hour, I had to switch.
It's just too much stuff for meto be like okay, girl, I'm
gonna take you, it's okay.
No, it's not okay.
Sean Febre (10:49):
So you got.
You got in at five.
How long did it take you?
Like how many girls?
Marandan Renea (10:55):
There were eight .
There were, I think I left bynight.
Sean Febre (11:01):
nine oh, so each one takes about 30 minutes.
It sounds like.
Marandan Renea (11:05):
Well, I had two girls there with me, so that we
can get them done.
Vince Serrano (11:08):
So you have a staff, you're not just out here.
This ain't a one person show.
How many employees do you have?
Marandan Renea (11:15):
No, no, no.
There are seven of us total,but some of my girls are in
South Carolina still, so I stillget calls and bookings to go
for South Carolina, and if theydon't want me, they have to take
them.
Vince Serrano (11:28):
Yeah.
Marandan Renea (11:30):
Now you have to fly me in because I'm not making
that drive.
Vince Serrano (11:32):
Yeah, so you delegate and you like a real
leader in your industry, likeyou're like hey look, we could
do this.
This is how it is Based on whatyou want this.
Marandan Renea (11:45):
I contract out other artists just depending on
how big the project is.
And then I have a friend, HanaAli.
Shout out to her.
She owns a makeup agency downin Georgia and we plan on
actually merging so that ourteam can be even bigger and we
can spread across more territory.
Just have Florida, Georgia andSouth Carolina on lock.
Sean Febre (12:02):
So are they like commission based 1099
contractors, or are they?
Marandan Renea (12:05):
W-2?
I have one hourly employee andthen everybody else to contract
it out.
Sean Febre (12:10):
How do people normally find you?
Do they go on your website and,like you, have a schedule on
there that people book, or dothey call you directly?
Is it all referral-based?
Marandan Renea (12:19):
My business right now is really
referral-based because eventhough I do weddings, my
weddings are strictly word ofmouth, just from people that
I've previously previously doneor clients that know me and like
, hey, my sister's gettingmarried and my this and that.
So getting married and herelately it's been more of my
celebrity clientele's familybecause I work with them and
(12:40):
then they have people gettingmarried and they'll call me up,
but mostly I've been hiringmyself out for production
projects.
Sean Febre (12:49):
What do you mean by that production?
Marandan Renea (12:51):
Because I'm a contractor with WWE.
It's not, like you know,employee-based, like they
contract you out and I contractmyself out to another company.
I can't really say the name ofthe project at the moment until
everything is solidified, butit's very exciting.
But yeah, then I contractmyself out to HSN or whoever
(13:15):
needs services.
Sean Febre (13:17):
Do you see that it's a little bit more difficult to
do makeup for live TV than it isto do it for weddings or
glamour events.
Marandan Renea (13:24):
It's all the same, it's all the same.
Weddings or glamour events,it's all the same.
It's all the same.
It doesn't matter, it's all thesame, it's all pressure, you
don't have to use some kind ofdifferent product or something
like that?
Sean Febre (13:31):
What?
If they sweat.
Are you touching up in thecommercial In terms of technique
?
Marandan Renea (13:34):
yes, different techniques that are used For my
brides.
Of course, it's layers ofdifferent things, because she
has to last all day yeah,because, honestly, I can do your
makeup to last you until thatnight.
If you want to pay me fortouching up honey, I'm going to
be right by your side all day.
But I really think it's justfor her to feel confident, like
(13:57):
like she's here for me, like,yeah, do me, because I'm really
just touching you, just because,because you still look flawless
eight hours later.
But I'm here for you, girl.
I got your champagne.
Oh, your lip.
Let me get you a little moregloss, not a problem for me.
Sean Febre (14:13):
What about dudes Are ?
Marandan Renea (14:15):
you.
We call that male grooming Malegrooming Because a lot of them
don't want to say that they haveon makeup.
It's male grooming.
Sean Febre (14:20):
But is it makeup?
Marandan Renea (14:22):
It's male grooming, but is it makeup?
It's makeup, but it's malegrooming.
Guys, do any of?
Vince Serrano (14:27):
them have issues with the same type of stuff that
you run into with the bride andstuff.
There are some guys that are alittle bit more Feminine,
demanding, not feminine, they'rejust a little bit more
particular Metrosexual men.
Marandan Renea (14:45):
I'll say that If they have a blemish or a
breakout or their skin is alittle bit red, of course they
want to look, even especially ifthey're on TV.
They want to look their besttoo.
But sometimes if I just put onlike a sheer, just a mattifier,
just so they won't be oily, andthey're like wait, like you see
(15:07):
this, I want this covered.
Oh my bad.
Okay, you want to get done.
Done, I got you.
Sean Febre (15:12):
So you know there's nothing how does it work with,
like, say, they shave their face?
I mean, they still got likestubble and shit like well,
that's a little bit different.
Marandan Renea (15:21):
Um, because sometimes on tv their face looks
green.
Almost you know what I'm sayingThen that makeup artist has no
clue what she's doing.
Sean Febre (15:28):
Yeah.
Marandan Renea (15:28):
It should be no green cast, no gray cast.
You should not look casketsharp on TV.
So yeah, she's not colorcorrecting something right.
But usually when guys areshaving and stuff, it's not a
matter of like covering up theirstubble, it's just more hiding
a little bit of theimperfections.
I've never really hidden ashaved beard unless I was doing
(15:48):
drag.
Yeah, oh man.
Vince Serrano (15:53):
You see, I'm all man.
You can hide my beard.
Marandan Renea (15:56):
No, not out of hair.
No, not out of hair.
No, I'm saying when they shave.
Vince Serrano (16:03):
you know you had hair Like that hair.
Marandan Renea (16:04):
No, I'm saying when they shave and you don't
want everybody to know.
You had hair Like damn dog no.
Vince Serrano (16:08):
You put a whole different man on there like a
whole different person.
Marandan Renea (16:11):
No, that's there .
Sean Febre (16:14):
So do you also, like , when you're doing male
grooming, like cut their hair,yeah.
Edge them up yeah, so you'realso a barber.
Marandan Renea (16:20):
Yeah, I've had a cosmetology license and my
first job was great clips.
I was cutting men's hair allday long.
Sean Febre (16:26):
Oh shit, so you could fade somebody up.
Marandan Renea (16:29):
Yeah, I cut my hair.
I'm going to have to shut down.
Vince Serrano (16:32):
Do you ever get issues with?
Because it is a service-based.
You know people who don't wantto pay after they've booked you.
Marandan Renea (16:43):
I don't get that , because they pay up front.
Yeah, I'm not even showing upif my fee isn't covered.
But have you had?
Vince Serrano (16:51):
people say hey look, I want to book you, and
then like, or, and they give youlike a deposit and then act
like brand new.
Marandan Renea (17:01):
At the beginning of my career, like when I was
just in the salon, I ran intothose issues, but not now.
They know, yeah, no.
Sean Febre (17:09):
What if they're like oh, I don't like what you did,
I'm not paying.
I mean that happens.
Vince Serrano (17:12):
Has that ever happened?
Sean Febre (17:13):
Yeah, even in the beginning In the beginning
absolutely, yeah several times,smack them in the back of the
head and say, no, you gotta pay.
Marandan Renea (17:20):
No, no, no, it's nothing like that.
Sean Febre (17:22):
You want to put a lien on your house.
Marandan Renea (17:25):
No, the thing of it is there's been times I
didn't satisfy a client and I'mjust like okay, I'll make it
right, I'll give you your moneyback, I will redo your hair Back
.
Then I did that If yougenuinely didn't like it.
Now there has been instanceswhere I had girls get weaves and
they'd be like uh-uh, I'm notpaying you, I don't like it.
(17:46):
And then I'd see them twomonths later with the same
hairstyle.
So yeah, different things likethat will happen in the industry
.
But now, like that's why I dotrial runs.
Like there are brides that if Idon't really know you like that
or I've never worked with you,a trial run is mandatory.
Like I have to give, you haveto do this with me, and then
(18:07):
they'll find out like oh yeah,this might be too much for me,
this might be too heavy, thismight be too, this too that, and
then we won't work togetheranymore and you just pay me for
your trial run and not for yourwedding day, or whatever a trial
run is when I do your hairmakeup before your event, um,
just to see how well we worktogether, if you like my
technique, if there's and, andalso if there's things that they
(18:30):
want to try that they haven'ttried before, um, the hairstyle
or whatever so they get theirhair done basically like twice,
like twice.
Vince Serrano (18:37):
That's what it sounds like.
Marandan Renea (18:38):
Yeah, yeah it's included in the package if they
decide to book with me.
But but if they decide to goanother route, then that's
completely fine, because thereare some brides that like, oh my
God, I want to look natural, Iwant to look this and I'm like,
but you reached out to me, I'm afull glam artist, like soft
glam, full glam.
But that Meghan Markle, likethat, completely nothing.
(19:00):
I can do that, but it's justnot my, that's not my thing,
that's that's not my brand.
Sean Febre (19:08):
So you can like almost make it look like they
have nothing on.
Marandan Renea (19:12):
Yeah, and just chisel out their features and
everything.
But I like to put it on baby.
I like glitz, glam, like, whynot?
I like structure.
Sean Febre (19:21):
I know you said you you're getting into production,
more production, makeup andglamour.
What about Hollywood?
What about it?
I don't know.
What about doing it for movies?
I would love to, I mean Atlantais a popular hub for filmmaking
now it is and I've done somereality TV stuff down there.
Marandan Renea (19:38):
But as far as doing movies you have to be in
the union and I've been lazy.
I know people in the union.
They've.
They've offered to help me getin.
There is a packet this big thatyou got to fill out.
I've just been lazy andhonestly, at this point, the
(20:00):
people that I know, the contactsthat I've made, if I want to
get in, like I'm pretty sure Icould call a person and call a
person to get in there.
Vince Serrano (20:07):
Yeah, it's not really your thing.
Marandan Renea (20:09):
I'm not pressed about it.
Sean Febre (20:11):
And they probably don't, you wouldn't make as much
money, either, I'm assuming, orwould you?
Marandan Renea (20:15):
They make good money.
It's just, I travel enough andsometimes, if productions are in
other places, you have to stayon set for however many weeks or
however many months, and if youdon't live in that city it's
hard.
And I have 50 little kids, likeI used to.
Going for a day or two, that'scool, but mommy being gone for a
(20:39):
couple weeks, for a month, thejuggernaut would not like that.
So no, it just depends, cool,but mommy being gone for a
couple weeks, for a month, thejuggernaut would not like that?
No, it just depends on thecircumstance and if the money
right we can make someadjustments.
Sean Febre (20:51):
Is Lorenzo your husband yes, oh, no way.
Marandan Renea (20:55):
Yes, I had no clue.
That's fake.
Sean Febre (20:58):
Yeah yeah, Because when I was doing some research I
saw your last name was Ferguson.
It just took me right now toput that together.
Marandan Renea (21:07):
Yeah, don't even say that name.
No more on this podcast.
Get that paperwork changed assoon as I can.
That's a process too, I got toget that off of there.
Sean Febre (21:21):
You didn't tell me that.
Vince Serrano (21:23):
You know, I figured you put two and two
together.
Sean Febre (21:25):
No, I'm not that smart.
Marandan Renea (21:28):
Yeah, legally that's what it is, but I got to
get that paperwork changed.
Sean Febre (21:32):
Yeah, that's cool, so all right.
So doing those kinds of filmsis not really something that you
want to pursue at this moment.
Marandan Renea (21:41):
It kind of sounds like right films is not
really something that you wantto pursue at this moment.
It kind of sounds like right.
I mean I like I said, if thecircumstances are right, if the
money is right, if we can workthat out, then we can explore it
, but it's just not somethingthat I'm pursuing what do you
mean by joining the union?
Sean Febre (21:54):
what union do you have to join?
I?
Marandan Renea (21:56):
can't even remember the initials of it is a
sag after a problem.
Vince Serrano (22:00):
Is that what it is?
Marandan Renea (22:02):
Something like that you have to apply for it.
It's a whole hair and makeupunion.
Sean Febre (22:07):
And then you probably have to pay union dues.
You have to pay?
Marandan Renea (22:11):
Yes, a couple thousand dollars to get in.
Vince Serrano (22:13):
It's the mob, basically it's the mob that's
really what it is.
Sean Febre (22:17):
It's the mob of Hollywood.
Marandan Renea (22:18):
But that's how they book out people for movies.
Sean Febre (22:23):
Yeah, and TV shows, but they never book contractors,
it sounds like.
Marandan Renea (22:27):
That's not true, like there are depending on,
like the artists.
Sean Febre (22:30):
Like if the Avengers call and they're like we want
you hey, then I can come.
I'm on the first plane out ofhere.
Marandan Renea (22:39):
Yeah, because if my girl Jay get on up in there,
you know they can choose theirartist.
They don't necessarily have togo that route.
I don't think I've seen peoplethat aren't in the union do hair
and makeup for talent in theirown shows and stuff like that,
so I'm sure there's other waysin.
Sean Febre (22:59):
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And I want to know how did youmake that jump from working at a
salon and thinking to yourselfyou know, I'm going to start my
own business.
Marandan Renea (23:37):
Did someone say, hey, can you maybe do an event,
or how exactly did that takeoff for you?
So in being in a salon, likeaside from working at Grey Clips
, I kind of jumped into BoothRental, which is ultimately
owning your own business, andthen I just started wanting more
.
Doing hair and makeup is likewell, at first I was just doing
(23:59):
hair.
I wasn't doing makeup at thetime when I had first started
getting out of cosmetologyschool, and it's just like the
ladies come in and you know weswitch stuff up weekly sometimes
, like I had clients come inevery week and it's just like it
was cool.
But I just wanted to do more.
I wanted to be more impactful.
I felt like my purpose, even inthe industry, was to work with
(24:24):
people that felt like theycouldn't necessarily be
themselves or they had to beperfect all the time.
And because I was always thevoice of reason, like I'm coming
in like girl, calm down, it'sOK.
Like they don't love you, it'scool.
Oh, my God, I haven't eaten inthree days.
I'm like, wait a minute minuteeat this sandwich.
I won't tell nobody and so fromthere, I started taking classes
(24:47):
all over the country um camedown for hair and makeup I
started taking classes, um, andthen I started working with some
of the leading people in theindustry because I would take
classes from them, becausethere's something about once you
do get into certain rooms, likeif they like you like, like
they're going to invite you back.
So I started working with TedGibson, john Raymond they are
(25:10):
leading guys in the fashionindustry and they're like hey,
we want to add you to the team.
So that's how I got into NewYork Fashion Week.
I started going back and forthdoing different shows with them
and I worked with the biggestdesigners in the industry I
can't even name them all, justgoing back and forth doing that.
(25:30):
So in meeting people going backand forth to New York or
California, I just started beingasked to do certain things
Meeting photographers andproducers and just started
networking from just being inthe room.
So it just kind of grew fromthere, me being able to do hair
and makeup for other things fromthen behind the chair.
Vince Serrano (25:52):
When you also go ahead.
I was going to ask, like, forsomebody who's up and coming,
who's about like, like, oh man,I just got invited to go work
with a fashion designer in NewYork Fashion Week.
What advice would you givesomebody to get like hey, this
is my first time.
Tell me what I got to do to getcalled back.
Marandan Renea (26:13):
They definitely need to be professional,
punctual.
They actually need to look thepart, because you can't go up
there with your hair a mess.
You need to look decent andlisten.
You have to listen.
I feel like a lot of peoplethese days, like they think they
know everything.
So you're talking to people oh,I got that.
Oh, I know they are.
(26:34):
Do this Like listen, even ifyou think you know, because I'm
not going to lie.
There were some times I wasthere and I'm a black woman.
I work with our texture hair.
I have done it millions of timesand I watched the lead
hairstylist struggle with a girlfrom Africa and her texture was
(26:55):
tightly coiled, it was thick,it was coarse and he's trying to
put this look that he's put oneverybody else with fine hair,
wavy hair, and he was strugglingand I'm just sitting there like
, okay, I do not try to be aknow-it-all.
In these situations you have tohumble yourself and listen to
(27:15):
them and then, when you arecalled upon, shine.
So when I'm standing there andhe looking at me, he's sweating
at this point and he was like doyou know another way to do this
?
Absolutely excuse me.
And then I went in there andwhipped that thing up and made
her look as close to the desiredlook for the designer and of
course it wasn't going to be thesame because she had different
hair texture but he was like, ohmy god, you made it look so
(27:37):
easy.
When it's your time to show your, your technique and your skill,
then do it, but don't do it ina way that's like you don't know
what you're doing.
Move out the way, just that.
Sean Febre (27:50):
That would be my advice so you're also associated
with uh makeup, mastery ofbusiness and beauty right makeup
mastery of business makeup moboh, the mob, hannah's business.
Vince Serrano (28:03):
Yes, my friend.
Marandan Renea (28:05):
We collab together to go overseas and do
different classes.
We've done a class in PutsaKanadiyar last year.
Sean Febre (28:13):
This year is in Jamaica, can you tell us a
little bit more about that.
What exactly is it?
Marandan Renea (28:18):
So she has a makeup agency and she just she
hires different artists and it'spretty much the same thing that
I do.
And we go way back.
We've known each other almost15 years and she's just in
Atlanta, so she does a lot ofproduction, a lot of music
videos.
She's worked with me at theother, the other wrestling
(28:39):
company that I worked for, me atthe other wrestling company
that I worked for, and she hiresout her clients to do different
things for makeup, because youknow Atlanta's Black Hollywood.
Sean Febre (28:49):
So there's always things going on down there.
Are you finding that the moreyou collab with people, the
bigger you're getting, the moreinfluential that you're getting,
the more celebrities that youcan work with, the more
everything, the more everything.
Marandan Renea (29:01):
People who try to gatekeep and work to
themselves will never getanywhere.
I definitely aspire to have theseven figures and above.
I aspire to live nicely.
I aspire to be able to continuemy outreach.
You need money to do that.
In order to get the kind ofmoney you need, you need more
hands.
(29:21):
So collaboration and network iskey to everything that you're
trying to accomplish, becauseyou can't do it alone.
Sean Febre (29:29):
Would you say social media has played a big role on
your rise.
Absolutely and if so, whichlike platform in general?
Marandan Renea (29:36):
Instagram has been my staple.
I'm not big on tiktok and allthat.
I have an account.
I was tiktoking during thepandemic, just weird stuff and
and kind of grew a followingfrom that, just because people
got to see a different side ofme, because I am very goofy.
So you're like girl, you I hadno idea you was this stupid.
Sean Febre (29:57):
I'm like, yeah, a little ignorant steering there,
but, like for business,instagram has been cute for me
yeah and uh, any tips for peopletrying to grow their following
post every day, or some shit,you know what?
Marandan Renea (30:13):
I can't even sit here and tell a lie.
I have not mastered a strategyfor that.
I show up on that platform.
When I show up, I try to put mybest foot forward there.
I will say collaborating doesmake a difference, like when the
wrestlers collab with me, theirfollowers start being
interested in what I'm doing.
(30:33):
So that has been a great thingfor me.
And collaborate and do thingsthat speak to you.
Like there's a lot of peoplethat will veer off into
different avenues on theirplatforms and it's just like
they don't know what you'redoing.
Like even on your pages.
When I look at your page andyou're telling me that you do
hair and makeup but you got allthese different pictures of
(30:58):
different things and what you'reeating and all that and I'm not
saying not to put that on there, but there's a place to put it
on there for the initial review.
When people go to book you orwant to look up and see what
you're doing, they need to lookat your page and know exactly
what's going on.
Then you can have a little tabfor food, tab for for Bay life,
tab for vacation.
But you need to be consistentin what you doing.
(31:18):
It needs to look like whatyou're preaching.
Sean Febre (31:21):
It almost makes sense to have that, where you
just add it to your story and,like you said, you have those
highlight reels at the top, orat least at the bottom, and
rename it everything that youknow.
That's exactly what I did,instead of posting, say, a
picture of you, you know,sliding down a water slide in
Adventure Island, or some shitlike that Exactly.
Marandan Renea (31:38):
Exactly.
And then I have a wholeseparate page for my private
life with me and bae, becausethe sexy pictures, sex sales,
all of that.
But when a bride is trying tofind somebody to do her hand
makeup, you got to be around, myman.
Vince Serrano (31:58):
It's like oh no, her ass too fat.
Marandan Renea (32:00):
We ain't doing that we can't have her running
off in the makeup artist.
So you know I do me like, mybrand is very sexy and I am who
I am.
However, I don't overdo it onthat page because I don't want
them to be like, yeah, nah.
Vince Serrano (32:16):
No, when you're working with, like the wrestlers
right, because I've seen thatthey'll actually share your
stories and especially becauseyou've you've got like a big uh,
like you play such a part inhow they look like when they
come out on tv, like your styleis being shown.
Marandan Renea (32:36):
that's your work that's your walking billboard
literally, my makeup is is onaction figures and shit.
That's what I'm saying.
So how does that feel Like.
Vince Serrano (32:45):
How does that like?
And how did you, how did youlike, figure that out?
Like, how did you figure outthat kind of look, because it's
not the normal, like when youdid Jade Cargill, like you drew
a line down the middle of herface.
Like to other people thatmight've been like what the hell
is going on right here.
Right, people that might havebeen like what the hell is going
on right here, right, can youget it up on the screen?
Sean Febre (33:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, damn right, I want to
see that.
Marandan Renea (33:05):
Well, when?
We're creating straight down weshow how symmetrical she is in
life, how perfectly balanced shecan be, as this wrestler, as a
mother, as this entertainer, asyou're also doing like creative
makeup.
Yeah, you're not just doing ohokay, boom makeup, that's it
(33:28):
yeah, and then, and depending onthe the angle that they're in,
like you the heel, you the babyface, like let's, let's play on
this, let's figure out what wecan do, and and jade is into a
lot of like futuristic shit.
She's very creative, she.
She's like I'm wearing this,like here's my outfit, and
that's really pretty much allshe has to show.
(33:50):
Like she'll show me her gearand I'm just like okay, this is
what I think we should have theone with the one yeah, she's,
she's actually.
Vince Serrano (33:57):
This is the one right here where she's doing it
like a couple of them, like yousee, that is the look, like
she's literally on TV with thelook, and then like the one
where she's going and she'sdoing the Damn, she's really
pretty yeah.
And this is like, this is areal live, like wrestler, like
she's it, like where the one.
Marandan Renea (34:18):
I took the one of my.
You can keep scrolling.
Okay, I just took that one downoff of my thing.
I was trying to clean up mypage a little bit you have an
amazing page.
Vince Serrano (34:28):
Though the aesthetic of your page looks
amazing, are?
Sean Febre (34:30):
you the one that's controlling all of it, or like
posting everything?
Marandan Renea (34:34):
yeah.
Vince Serrano (34:36):
I like creating all my things she's got like a
great story when you're goingthrough.
Sean Febre (34:41):
She's a soccer player.
Vince Serrano (34:42):
She's got a great story of when you're going
through-.
Sean Febre (34:42):
She should be coming up in a minute.
Yeah, she's a soccer player.
Marandan Renea (34:46):
She's the referee for AW.
I can't remember.
It must be on down.
Sean Febre (34:51):
I'll go on the Reels page.
Wait, wait, wait, go down onemore One.
Oh, okay, no, it's all on.
Marandan Renea (34:57):
Yeah, yeah, I mean so that was probably a
million.
Vince Serrano (35:06):
She's drawing a line right down.
Sean Febre (35:09):
You can play the audio.
Marandan Renea (35:11):
And she did.
She trusted that whatever Idone to her, she was like, yeah,
let's do it.
I'm with it, oh shit.
Sean Febre (35:22):
Oh, you went all the way down, all the way.
You cut her in half.
Marandan Renea (35:27):
I did.
All the way down the breathline I did.
I had to literally hold mybreath to make sure that line
was perfectly straight.
Vince Serrano (35:40):
This is something that people don't even like.
You're not.
You're not.
You're not creating like.
You're not doing what otherpeople are doing.
You're creating your like.
You're not doing what otherpeople are doing.
You're creating your own styleand you're demonstrating it,
like on live TV.
Like this is like hey, do theyrock with this or not?
(36:01):
And every single time it's beenpretty dope.
So it's like how do you come upwith those ideas?
And how did the wrestlers?
Are the wrestlers just likeyeah, do whatever you want, okay
, well, Jade and I like she'llsend me pictures and stuff.
Marandan Renea (36:17):
Like she'll send me like 35 pictures and I'm
looking at them and I'm justlike, okay, like ideas, like
yeah, just throwing things outthere.
And then, as I'm lookingthrough it and I'll be like what
you like about this one, whatdo you like about this one?
Like we, as I'm looking throughit and I'm like what you like
about this one, what do you likeabout this one?
Like we'll go through, andshe'd be like I like the eyes on
this, I like this on this, andeventually I'd be like, okay, I
(36:37):
might take like an idea from apic, a part of the picture, but
ultimately it's just like, yeah,simple is better, like that
would be a whole statement,cause it was a picture.
The girl had like lines going,she's like an avatar.
And I was just like we don'thave to do all that.
(36:57):
Like you want to lookfuturistic, we can do the silver
eyeshadow, but let's just putone line down there, one
balanced line, like one streamline, like just keep it simple.
And she, she was like yes, isthat like body paint, almost?
Yep, mehron.
Sean Febre (37:12):
Metallic paint.
How does that like?
How do you get?
Marandan Renea (37:20):
that off Because I mean she's sweating in the
shower.
You're going to shower.
Sometimes alcohol Like I dohave to make sure it stays
because, like, even after thatmatch it was there and of course
I had to.
I actually had to go throughand scrub it off and redo her
makeup so that she could do herpost interviews and all See.
Sean Febre (37:37):
That's what I'm saying.
So it's not just doing themakeup, it's also removing the
makeup too Heck.
Marandan Renea (37:41):
Yeah, you got to establish that kind of
confidence with these wrestlers,though right, flip it in five
to ten minutes, because actuallyafter Wrestlemania in Vegas,
this time, um, her hairstylistwas back there, um, switching
out her hairstyle, and I was inthe upper room and they were
like Jade has a segment in about20 minutes and I was like what?
(38:03):
And I went back there and I waslike girl, let me start with
her, because I know you got tobe gone in about 18 minutes now.
She was like what you talkingabout?
She had no clue that she evenhad another interview.
Not only was it an interview, itwas live, in front of hundreds
of people right outside of thestadium.
People were cheering for herand all kinds of stuff.
(38:24):
I need to post that.
But me and her hairstylist hadto do full glam curls, redo her
face, everything I kid you notin like nine minutes, jesus.
And in that moment you have toknow when to cut corners, like
(38:48):
when to leave some things out,but still make it look like a
full face.
So that's when your skillreally come out when you only
have 10 minutes to make it looklike you spent two hours.
Vince Serrano (38:52):
When that pressure's on right.
Sean Febre (38:53):
Well not only that, but you're working around the
hairstylist too.
Yes, so it's two people on onehead, we are all.
Marandan Renea (38:59):
And then Jade's hair is white, so I have to be
careful not to touch anything upin there Like it's a lot going
on.
Sean Febre (39:06):
Did you ever get burned by a curling iron from
the hairstylist while you'redoing the makeup?
Marandan Renea (39:11):
Oh no, not from the hairstylist.
I can say I've burnt myself, Ihave yeah, Well, I'm going to
say you guys Ha In part againJust waiting on there just
trying to get the stuff togetherand fumbling.
That's why I'm a messy artist.
Sean Febre (39:27):
Like I have stuff everywhere but I get the job
done.
Damn, five minutes to go from.
Vince Serrano (39:30):
Yes, that's gotta be stressful, Bro, this is
Wrestlemania too, man, this isnot like hey, this is like.
Sean Febre (39:35):
This is like the biggest wrestling event of the
year, right For WWE or WE WWEyeah.
No, I think it's WE now isn't?
Vince Serrano (39:43):
it yeah.
Marandan Renea (39:44):
I thought it was WWE.
Sean Febre (39:45):
It's WWE.
Oh, I thought they changed that.
Vince Serrano (39:47):
No no.
Marandan Renea (39:52):
WWF, right, that's.
Don't they change that?
No, no, you know, wwf, right,that's what it used to be yeah,
yeah, huge.
Sean Febre (39:54):
So many people, so much pressure.
That must have been wild,though, because I mean, you're
behind the scenes, right?
Do you ever see them, like youknow, when they do the skits and
and shit like that?
Do you ever see them wherethey're running around?
And I see cameras following.
I see everything you ever tryto maybe just pop your head in
the camera.
Marandan Renea (40:08):
No, no, but I have been in several promos,
like the guys, like when I'mbraiding hair and stuff and I'm
sitting there just doing mything and they just straight up
and I'm like, and they be like,can we out here?
We look good, we feel good, mymakeup artists look good and I'm
like, oh yeah, dude.
Vince Serrano (40:27):
I have to get in character right quick Like oh I
didn't know you was going toinclude me.
Marandan Renea (40:30):
Include me Like I'm in the shot.
But yeah, sometimes I got toyou know, play my part,
especially like Jay just put mein her promos before and I got
to you know.
Vince Serrano (40:41):
So like right, when they're cutting those, like
those shit-talking pieces,right, you're like literally
working.
Marandan Renea (40:50):
So like I was literally braiding hair and he
was like I'm like, yeah, go doyour thing, do your thing, I got
you, it's fine, it's fine areyou ever watching like the
matches, like in the stands whenyou go there, or you're just
looking at it on tv in the back,just I?
Will go like when my girls gogirls go out I will go out on
(41:13):
the side to watch them walk outthe stage and to see how my
makeup looks on the jumbotrons.
Like that's a big thing for me.
Like I'm like oh my God, youcan see every detail.
Make sure that you know,because that right there is
scary too.
Like you do a face and you messaround and not color match
correctly or not blend somethingout, like the internet is
(41:34):
vicious, they will crucify you,like why the hell was her face
orange and her neck was brown?
Like yeah, that type of thinghappens, not to me.
Vince Serrano (41:45):
But you've seen it.
Marandan Renea (41:46):
I have seen it, and it does keep me on my toes.
Vince Serrano (41:50):
I'm on my feet.
Shannon Sharp had that one time.
They were crucified as makeupartists because he was looking
like.
Shannon Sharp is a black man,but I'm saying his texture, his
color is dark.
And they had my dog lookinglike he was the Incredible Hulk.
He was like with the greenish,like the greenish black.
It looked like it was too much.
Sean Febre (42:11):
It's crazy because she's wearing, um, you know,
nothing in her midriff, so doyou have to make up like her
whole body?
Marandan Renea (42:18):
no, no, no.
You just have to be that onpoint to make sure that her face
matches her body so it's justabsolutely, and that's, that's
training, that's repetitiveness.
Like you have to keep doing thatand know and have the eye for
it.
That's why everybody thinksthey can be a makeup artist.
There's so many things that gointo that.
(42:38):
Going to YouTube University isnot enough.
You can watch it.
There's a lot of girls thatlook on it and it's pretty.
But doing it on differentpeople.
Our face structures aredifferent.
Even for hair, our textures aredifferent.
Like there's a lot of differentthings going on.
You have to know how tohighlight and contour those
different faces, which is whyI'm really good at what I do.
(42:59):
Like I can insinuate your bestfeatures and hide the things
that you don't like very well,because the devil's in the
details.
And I study.
Like I can sit here, I can seehow to rearrange your whole
everything.
Like I study people.
That's your job, like you'relooking at it.
And to make sure everything issymmetric and all of the things.
Vince Serrano (43:21):
Have you seen it where it's like I ain't going to
lie, like I'm very picky withmy girl because I feel like my
woman is very natural?
Marandan Renea (43:29):
looking.
She's naturally beautiful.
Vince Serrano (43:30):
Right girl, because I feel like my woman is
very natural looking beautifulright and I hate when they
overdo her makeup where they,she looks like she's plastic and
that's the thing like,especially for the things that
you do, like when you're out andy'all are going to these events
and things like that.
Marandan Renea (43:46):
Heavy makeup should never be more, especially
in florida yeah your woman canjust need a good glow to her Big
fire.
Of course, I know exactly whatto do in the event.
What's to do it?
When you are plastering onmakeup, it's because you're
under those bright lights, it'sbecause you're in front of that
TV or you're about to be takinga lot of pictures.
But when people show up and seeyou putting all that on and
(44:07):
caking it, it's like a tea.
Vince Serrano (44:09):
Who are you?
And what'd you do with my wife?
Marandan Renea (44:11):
And a lot of men don't like it.
Sean Febre (44:14):
I didn't see my wife without makeup for like fuck
man, like a year.
Wow, I was like I thought thatwas your face.
Marandan Renea (44:22):
Okay, oh wow.
Vince Serrano (44:27):
How did you feel, though, knowing that she took
it off?
Sean Febre (44:30):
I was like well, y'all a bunch of liars.
Vince Serrano (44:33):
Oh, it is true, they do be lying, yeah, because
sometimes you can't even fuckingtell.
Sean Febre (44:39):
I mean, it's like to the point where I was, like
okay, so that's how she looks.
Marandan Renea (44:42):
My man met me without makeup.
That's cool, that's good, Idon't wear makeup all the time
doing this kind of course, butmy normal day to day like.
That's why you gotta keep yourskin together.
Wear makeup, especially it'shot and humid, like here,
especially in Florida.
Vince Serrano (45:01):
Yeah, I feel like that's a thing, though, bro,
you were talking about it,though like I feel like seeing
like you meet somebody and thenyou see them without it and it's
almost like yo, where are youreyebrows?
Sean Febre (45:17):
Those were drawn on Yo, what the hell.
Vince Serrano (45:20):
Damn.
I'm not judging, but I need youto go put them back on.
Damn.
You know what I'm saying that'scool.
Marandan Renea (45:29):
That's cool, bro .
My men tell me a lot of mendon't like makeup.
That's why, like I'm at thestore and I don't have my, my
kids with me and men be tryingto talk to me and stuff with my
kids and my daughter like, geton somewhere, my daddy at the
house and it's like every time.
It's when I don't have on makeup, like and that's something that
I talk about and I touch myselfbecause learning how to
(45:51):
assimilate yourself and makeyourself feel beautiful but
still look natural is a thing,Even though, like, that's not
what I do for, like my broadsand stuff, that's not my style
Every day.
You don't need to place that onevery day.
I'm sorry.
I'm sure your wife is lovely,but there's no reason why she
would have to wear it all dayevery day Now she doesn't wear
(46:12):
it at all.
Sean Febre (46:13):
She shouldn't have to Married like seven years
almost.
Marandan Renea (46:18):
She shouldn't have to.
Vince Serrano (46:19):
Are you happy about that?
Yeah, I'm fine with that.
See, that's good, bro, it'swhen you're not, you just
shouldn't.
Marandan Renea (46:24):
It's just like I didn't know you shouldn't catch
your man off guard when youtake your face off.
Catch your man off guard whenyou take your face off.
Sean Febre (46:30):
That's all I'm saying.
That's all I'm saying.
I didn't know you wore makeup.
Marandan Renea (46:32):
That's good that you didn't know.
Sean Febre (46:34):
So we're coming down to you know, a final couple
minutes here.
How can they find you?
Marandan Renea (46:41):
You can put Miranda Renee in any search
engine and all of my things popup.
I am consistent across theboard with all my accounts, even
the ones that I'm not as activeon, but Instagram is Miranda
Renee, facebook, twitter,snapchat.
My website is Miranda Renee.
Sean Febre (47:01):
Any advice for the folks out there.
It could be anything.
It could be about business,personal life, makeup.
Don't hide your face for a yearno, don't do that.
Marandan Renea (47:12):
My overall advice is just whatever it is
that you're doing, make surethat you are happy, because in
all things, if your happiness iscompromised, like, you're not
gonna be your best at anythingand that's a miserable ass life
I love it.
Sean Febre (47:28):
Alright, guys, we're wrapping up happy hour holidays
.
I hope, uh, that you tooksomething informational from
here, like comment, subscribe,follow.
We're on all the socials.
We're on all the streamingplatforms and podcast streaming
platforms.
Have a great rest of your daysand cheers to your future.
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