Hate Watching Drive-Away Dolls: Love is a sleigh ride through bad cinema

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So you've got to go to work at 10?
.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Yeah, yeah, sure do, so we better start hey watchin'
with Dan and Tony.
Hey watchin' with Dan and Tony.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
It's like watchin'.
Yeah, Welcome to hey Watchin'with Dan and Tony.
I'm Dan, we're in time crunchtoday.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Time crunch, tony.
All right, we're going to talkreally fast.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
We're going to get this done in about 35 minutes.
Everybody, it's going to beincredible.
I'll talk about this.
Talk about the thing.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yes, that's what we do on the show.
Thanks for coming everybody.
Then we slowed it down.
We bring it on down now.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
On this show we talk about a movie this week.
I chose the movie.
And I chose the first of thebroken-up Coen brothers.
They were struggling makingmovies.
They just weren't having funanymore.
So they thought you know whatwe should do.
We should go in our separatedirections and have control over

(01:04):
our own destinies and and makethe movies that just we want to
make.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
So the unfettered cohen, each cohen yeah, you know
, because I mean, here's thething, right.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
So they haven't made a good movie in about 30 years.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Um, so I get it.
I would be too, justartistically and personally, I
would be very mad.
I'd be like you know what?
Let's try to do our own thingsand it turns out they're just as
bad as the other things, ormaybe worse.
Maybe worse, I'm not sure.
Maybe there's a little bit inreal talk.

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Obviously there's some sort ofbalancing that happens when
they're together.
You know what I mean, when youtake one away and then Ethan's
like Well, I'm just gonna be acomplete idiot For the next 80
minutes, so that's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
So we're doing the Ethan Coen Jam co-written with
Somebody.
Maybe his wife Was standingaround during some of it.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
No, it's a frequent collaborator.
Okay, she did like aroundduring some of it.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
No, it's a frequent collaborator.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Okay, she did like editing on some of their older
films and stuff and I guess.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
I just decided to write a couple of movies we're
doing Drive Away Dolls from 2024Hour and 24 Minutes.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, her name is Trisha Cook.
I just want to.
You know we don't want to leaveher out in the cold.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
She's maybe not as to blame, but before we talk about
this movie, we're going to saythis.
This spoilers.
This movie also deals withsexuality.
It also deals with lesbianism,and that's not going to be our

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problem with the movie not evenone of them I have so many
problems with the movie and thatdoesn't even register.
No you're watching this movieand you're just like it's pretty
interesting because I thinkbecause of him being a Coen and
because it's not a taboo subject, but it's like a subject that

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if you start going after it,people could say well, you're,
you know, that's because of yourbias or whatever.
Blah, blah, blah.
You're cis male gender.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Well, I was reading a lot of Reddits and the Reddit
threads.
A lot of it was both there are.
It turns out there is quite abit of homophobia against this
movie but then there's alsopeople that bring up valid
points about how terrible thismovie was made.
Yes, irregardless of the thecontent, just the fact that the

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movie is terrible.
And then some people were like,wow, that's your homophobia.
And I was like, actually no,because this movie sucks.
Uh, I think, unfortunately, Ithink this is like, uh, you know
, blight on a community, youknow what I mean?
Like it's, it's one of thosethings where it's like it's it
sucks, that it sucks, yeah,because of this thing and it's

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like.
Now there's like it's just it'sa bad movie, though it's bad
guys, it's, it's, it's bad.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
The thing is is when you make a movie that's sort of
based in a community and youmake a really terrible movie,
maybe, you know, the one thingwe're not going to be able to
comment on is how well itrepresents the sort of
characters that exist within acommunity like that.
Sure, because we don't knowthem.
You know there might be thesecharacters and the way they act

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is drawn very well and I don'tbelieve that I'm going to
question that real quickly.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Just on, what's the lady's name?
Margaret Qualley, is that how Isay it?

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Qualley, yes, qualley , there's.
Just I say it Qualley, yes,qualley, there's just that's not
a human.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
There's, there's nothing human like about this
character, and this charactershould never have existed, ever
in the world.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Those things are all true, but I just mean like you
know just sort of how her socialinteractions are and the way
the community is, because youknow yeah because you know I
have some.
You know I've talked to peoplethat are in the Los Angeles gay
community.
You know we've had more of amore of an interaction with

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people in that community and soI have an idea of some things
about that community and somethings are kind of they're very
different from a heterosexualcommunity, blah, blah, blah.
And so you can't entirely judgewhat what the community like in
the bar scene.
You know they someone watchingit might be like this is exactly
how the bar scene is.
We're.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
We're a little more like oh, I mean, maybe it is, I
don't know, who knows again I Ihave I don't believe I'm going
to talk about that topic at allin my hatred for the movie.
And let me tell you realquickly, it is a hatred for this
movie.
I hated almost every second ofthis movie that Beanie was not

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on screen.
Beanie was funny.
She's great, she's awesome.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
I love her Beanie was funny.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
She's great, she's awesome.
I love her.
She's funny, she's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
But back to what point you were making.
Is that because it has this,you know, because it sort of
deals in these topics, it bothhas a shield around it, right?
Because the critics are notgoing to give this one star or
zero stars, because they'rewondering if they should do that

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?
Because you want movies likethis to be good and to show that
a movie like this can be goodand is open to a wide audience
and I think I mean have you seenBottoms?
By any chance it ran that rightafterwards, I believe.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
I watched the beginning of it.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
And it didn't really do anything for me, and so I
didn't.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
I watched maybe 10 or 15 minutes.
It probably didn't make youwant to murder anybody.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
It just didn't seem like my thing.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Sure, and I think that's fine.
I think that if you put thosetwo movies together not that
they're only two movies, I'mjust saying I think Bottoms was
done really, really well and Ithink it's much more accessible,
and I think this movie is apile of trash.
But I was just saying that youwant movies, these kind of
movies, to be good, and I justthink that Bottoms is a better

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example, that's all.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Bottoms seemed to be a little more shifted in, not
pointed directly at a mainstreamaudience.
It seemed to be the jokes.
It seemed very much wrapped upin that community, Like this
movie feels, like it wants to bea mainstream movie.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Right, yeah, for sure 100%.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
And that basically anyone can.
You know it's like RuPaul'sDrag Race.
At a certain point, love, thatshow Became a mainstream thing,
for whatever reason.
It's still very broad and itstill really delves into a lot
of things.
But you know, me and my motherused to watch that show together
, yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
And it was great.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
She loved it.
My mom loved that and it waswonderful.
It was like you know.
There were no barriers.
Bottoms felt like it was superraunchy For sure.
And then this movie you're like, oh okay, whatever.
And then when it gets fairlyraunchy you're just like it's

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just in such a dopey way yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
You're just like it's just in such a dopey way.
Yeah, and maybe I'm wrong, butthis is how I feel about all
Coen Brothers movies Except theones you like.
Even the ones I like aredefinitely leaning towards it.
I just feel like they thinkthey're more clever than they
are.
Just in general, I think theysit there and write and are like

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oh, it was so clever People aregoing to get this joke.
Or some people are not going toget this joke because they're
so highbrow but lowbrow at thesame time.
It's just dumb.
I hate the way.
I hate the way they write.
Like I have a visceral hate forthe way that they write and I
understand that that's.
It's not that it's necessarilybad and I think that they can do

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it well, but in gen I justdon't like the way they write.
And so to for me to like one oftheir movies, they have to be
at like the top of their game atthat, and this would be.
This would be not the top ofthe game, you know this would be
real towards the bottom of thegame.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Well, I guess he wrote this or they wrote this in
2000 and it's been sort ofpercolating around since then
interesting which is interestingbecause it takes place in 1999
right.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
So they just didn't update the script.
So they wrote it 20 years agoand then, like two years ago,
they were like god, we shouldjust make a movie because it's
been a while.
Well, let's pull out a scriptand not reread it at all, let's
not read it before we startshooting, and let's just do the
first draft we did 20 years ago.
That makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
The other thing is that joel, who's you know, gone
elsewhere the thing he, he did,macbeth last year he did.
Macbeth with Denzel.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Washington and his wife.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
I watched the first 10 minutes of it.
Maybe five minutes of it Shotin black and white Looks like an
Ingmar Bergman movie.
Hyper serious yeah.
And this makes you think thatthis movie, which is a lowbrow

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comedy, you know kind of madcapcomedy, and then the other
brother brings an austerity anda you know something like that,
and then when you put themtogether, the two of them cancel
out the other's most negativeparts, yeah, the worst parts of

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each other.
They're able to balance that out, I think Because there's some
things in this movie whereyou're just like that just
doesn't make any sense.
Some things, yeah, but certainthings that you're just like if
you were working with anotherperson who is looking at reality
, they would say, no, we can'tdo this.

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We have to figure out a betterway to get to this.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
And a lot of times what happens is you have
something you want to do andthen the other person says we
got to figure out a better wayto get there, and the better way
to get there becomes a betterway to get there.
Yeah, and it figure out abetter way to get there and the
better way to get there becomesa better way to get there, and
and it starts it actually startsworking and making sense.
But yeah, this, this moviedoesn't feel like it has
anything to do with reality oh,no, no, no, of course not, not

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even a little bit.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
In fact, sometimes it just to your point.
It does feel like there's anidea of, like, what we want this
scene to be about, but there'sno.
They're just like I don'treally know how to get into it.
So let's just do it.
Let's just go from a to c hereand just be like, just do it,
because people, have you seenthe rest of this movie?
Like it's not going to make alot of sense.

(11:56):
It's zany, it's fun, it'swhatever.
Like we don't need it to makesense.
And I would like it to makesome semblance of sense in my
mind.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
And my point was that B is usually where the good
stuff happens, sure, sure, whereyou're forced to justify it.
And I'm going to do a couple ofquick, actual Coen Brothers
things.
At the beginning of RaisingArizona, you have John Goodman
and the other brother.
They're in a thing like likethis and they're talking about

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something and one of the guyslike says this great line, we
ate sand, saying that he waseating sand to survive.
And one of the guys says youate what?
and the guy says we ate sand.
Okay, three lines, but it'sthree lines that are perfection.
It's this line that justdoesn't Make any sense.

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But immediately One of thecharacters Questions it and the
dude Doubles down on it.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
And he's just like no , no, we ain't saying Okay.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
We don't, we're never , we're never gonna know this,
we're never gonna understand it,we're never gonna have the
answer to that and that thatentreats you.
But someone is immediately asopposed to I ain't saying it, I
was this and that's what thismovie is just all.
I eat sand at a certain point,seemingly, and you just go like

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what the heck?

Speaker 2 (13:18):
yes, yeah, I'm a little mad at you.
I'm just throwing that out.
There it was.
It was not a fun night lastnight for me it was so much
worse than I expected because Iremember watching.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
I remember watching the trailer and going like okay,
well, first of all thetrailer's super misleading I
think, is it?

Speaker 2 (13:42):
I didn't, oh yeah so we watched the trailer on
saturday and then I watched thetrailer on Saturday and then I
watched the movie Sunday and Iwas like the trailer did not
portray this movie correctly atall, Like it was not nearly as
zany as the movie, like thetrailer seemed like it was going
to be like a fun mad caper andI understand that that's kind of

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in this movie.
But it's so broad, it's so wackyand it's so stupid that the
trailer does not do it justiceat all.
Also, the trailer featurespedro pascal, for I would say
half the trailer and almost allof his scenes from the trailer
are his entirety of the movie.

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Like there's it's almost theexact same amount of screen time
for Pedro in the trailer andthe movie.
Wow, yeah, yeah.
So the trailer does not helpyou see this movie at all.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Got it and I saw that trailer and I was like, yeah, I
don't know man.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
I was.
When we saw the trailer we werelike, ok, this could be fun,
except for this one lady'saccent.
And then it turns out she's thelead of the film and she's in
all of the film and that accentnever stops and it is the most
grating thing in the world.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Hold on.
I'm going to say one thingabout the accent.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
It does stop because she goes in and out of it every
once in a while.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Oh, maybe it does, but when she does it in the
first couple of scenes it feelsunderdeveloped and then I mean
not to say it develops into areal accent.
It develops into something thatyou could kind of do.
You know something I could?
Do for a whole movie as opposedto at the beginning.

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You're like, yeah, no one one'sgonna be able to keep that up
at that.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Well, they clearly shot it in order.
Right that scene was clearlyshot first and they were like
we're gonna need to pull thatback about 10 when they should
have pulled it out 50, but youknow who?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
am I to judge.
I guess robert pattinson insome new movie plays like a
southern guy and he wouldn'twork with a dialect coach and he
came up with his own way ofspeaking and he didn't let
anybody hear it until day one.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
First of all, mad respect.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
He's a guy that pulls weird stuff off like that.
He's a strange guy.
He's the guy that pulls weirdstuff off like that.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
He's a strange guy.
He's real weird.
He's a strange guy, but I havegrown to respect him in a way
that I never thought wouldhappen, so that's good for you.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
He's incredibly enjoyable.
Okay, let's go.
We're into driveway dolls,philadelphia, 1999.
We're at a diner or somethingCicero's.
There's a man clutching abriefcase.
He's waiting for something.
It's after midnight, he the thewaiter guy kind of looks at him

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and he kind of gets freaked out.
He flees down an alley, thewaiter is following him, and
then the waiter pulls out acorkscrew and corkscrews in his
neck and then is it just me, ordoes pedro corkscrew it further?

Speaker 2 (16:51):
as opposed to going out, it seems like he's going in
.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
I don't know it's very strange then he stabs him
with a pen.
And then a car pulls up to thefront of the alley and a guy
gets out with a hex.
Oh, he takes the case to thecar.
And then a car pulls up to thefront of the alley and a guy
gets out with a hex.
Oh, he takes the case to thecar.
And then a guy gets out of thecar with a hacksaw and runs down
the alley like he's going tocut him up.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, and so here's the good thing thing.
This is the.
This is the one of the onlygood things I will say about
this movie is, at this point,you know whether you're going to
have fun or hate your life forthe next 80 minutes.
Like it comes out of the gatefull swing.
It doesn't.
It doesn't ease you in, it'sjust like this is what we're

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doing.
Either come along for the rideor fuck you.
And um, I immediately was likeI want to turn this movie off.
I would if, if this was mynormal life, I wouldn't watch
another frame after this firstscene.
I'm done.
I'm so done with this moviealready.
I hate the vibe.
I hate the the script.
I hate the words they're saying.

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I hate the way they're acting.
I hate everything about thisscene so much that I was ready
to walk away.
If we weren't watching it forthis stupid podcast, I would
have never finished this movie.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
I feel so vindicated.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Well, because here's what it is right Like.
I don't enjoy the Coen brothersand this is.
It almost felt like an imitate,a poor imitation of a Coen
Brothers movie made by a CoenBrother, so it's like he's
almost trying too hard to behimself.
It's this weird, I don't evenknow how to describe it, but it

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felt like a fake Coen Brothermade by a Coen Brother, trying
to prove that he's the betterCoen Brother.
That's how it felt to me and Ijust I hated every second of it.
Did we watch Monkey Bone forthis show?
Cohen brother trying to provethat he's the better cohen
brother?
That's how it felt to me and Ijust I hated every second of it
did we watch monkey bone forthis show?
is that?
Is that uh brendan frazier,frazier?

Speaker 1 (18:54):
frazier, how do I say his?

Speaker 2 (18:55):
name frazier frazier.
Sure, yeah, no, we definitelydid.
It felt like monkey bone, butthat movie was more fun.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
But I mean it felt like some it felt like some it
felt like someone was shootingit in 1999 for sure.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Well, I'm telling you , they didn't rewrite the script
at all.
There's there's no doubt in mymind that this is exactly word
for word what was written downin 2000, and they did not change
it, you know.
I did you ever watch breakfastin america?
Definitely not.
Oh, you should what it's?

Speaker 1 (19:29):
uh, what's his name?
This is this crazy guy that wasin I think it was in one of the
last halloween movies, and he'sjust okay he's just totally
lunatic and it's like he goes to, like he burns stuff down and
he goes to breakfast and justit's all this, but it's, it's
feels like it's of the moment,right.

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You know the way it's shot sortof sort of 70s style sort of on
film and you know it feels likethis is a movie being made right
.
This second, this movie likenever felt like that at all,
felt like this anomaly and notin a good way, not a standout,

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not a, not a superlative now wehave characters having this is
our first uh transition as wellour smash cut transition, I feel
like it is is.
It.
Is that how they do.
Is that a thing that they stilldo?
Smash, cut transitions or no,nobody does.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Nobody does anything that this movie does anymore.
Uh, or ever did.
Really they use like and I'mobviously this was a stylistic
choice and they thought it wasfunny or clever or something.
I don't.
I I can't understand what theywere trying to do, but they do
these likeMovie transitions.
Oh, we're going to spin theframe, we're going to drop the

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frame with a sound effect,something that would be done in
Dumb and Dumber 30 years ago.
That made sense in a movie likethat.
This movie thinks that it'ssome sort of silly slapstick
1990s movie, and it isn't.
But it's just the.
The whole, every the vibe isjust all wrong on this.

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I, I don't know, I can't even.
I just get so mad when I thinkabout it.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
But sorry, well, yeah , you look like you want to say
something on that same thread,going back back to when Pedro
gets killed, when they stab himin the neck.
I think they put in weird soundeffects every once in a while
where it'll be like it'll belike this Looney Tunes thing
yeah exactly, and it's so weird.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
It doesn't make any sense.
One of the transitions is ananvil sound.
It's like why that's not this,that's not this movie, that's
not where we are.
That has nothing to do with thevibe that you give off in this
movie.
And then you have this girlwith the accent who doesn't
belong in the same movie asanybody else on screen.
Like if everyone was doingsomething ridiculous, then it

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makes a little more sense.
But there's just some thingsare at a 20 and some people are
realistic.
If everyone was doing somethingridiculous, then it makes a
little more sense.
But there's just some thingsare at a 20 and some people are
realistic.
I mean not very many, butthere's a couple of people that
are just like being humans.
And then there's people theresomewhere in the middle, and in
the middle is where I think weshould be.
It's all over the board.
I just I feel beaten down, Ifeel exhausted from watching

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this movie so we got jamie ishaving sex with I think, a woman
, carla maybe, yeah, yeah, yeah,it's the.
It's the lady that you're gonnasee in the next scene at the bar
yeah does that make sense?
Yeah and then I don't know hername.
I don't know anyone's names inthis movie.
Except for Suki.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Jamie is the main character, Margaret Qualley I
don't believe you that her namewas Jamie?

Speaker 2 (22:52):
I don't think I ever heard anyone say Jamie.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
The other girl is Marion and she's sort of.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
That sounds familiar.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Uptight.
The name never suits her.
She never seems like a marion.
If I was doing this movie andyou had her there, I'd be like
you need to change her name tosomething else because she does
not seem like a man go to thecourthouse right now and legally
change your name oh, you knowwhat.
You know why she's calledmarion.

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I know it now because in in umwhatchamacallit, in uh robin
hood made marion no, in themusic man, marion is the the
librarian, marion is the thebuttoned up.
Yeah, that's.
That's the bit wow, listen,we're.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
They are so clever, these, these coens, are so
clever.
They have layers and layers ofnods to other films that are so
much better than their films,you see the.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
The problem with doing that is marion is no
longer that.
It doesn't connote you know youdon't get that.
You don't get that at all.
If I say marion, you think mademarion, that's your marion,
that you, you pull out well, inmy defense, that was.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
She was a real, real impression on my formatted years
.
You know what I mean what youmean robin hood, prince of
thieves or something.
Hell, yes, that's exactly whatI mean.
When she's, when he's doing thebow and she goes up, she blows
in his ear very gently.
My god, who, who?
That is a scene.
Who is the?
Actress I have no idea.

(24:27):
True story?
I have no idea.
I'll look it up now.
I feel, now I feel guilty.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Robin hood men in nope, nope, nope, not men in
black so I think marion iscalling her on the phone.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
It's obviously Mary Elizabeth oh.
Antonio, yeah how did you knowthat name Cause?

Speaker 1 (24:49):
that's great An actress's name, um, so I get.
So Marion, I guess, is tryingto call her to do something.
And then Marion's at work andthere's this guy, bart, who's
hitting on her and he wants totake her to a.
Phish concert.
He does not look like a Phishconcert person.

(25:11):
Nope, not at all, she does notseem like a Phish concert person
?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
No, but again, it was just like who's a band in the
2000s that people might stillremember today.
I think that's the only way youcan look at it in my mind.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Well, you can make the joke.
It's fish with a PH, not withan F.
He says that to her, I think,and she's like I know that, yeah
, and she's playing the audiencewhere you're like yeah, that's
not a joke.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Right, it's not funny .
No, not a joke at all.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
But somebody thinks it's a joke.
His name is ethan cohen.
He thinks it's a joke and she'slike I'm sorry, I have an
engagement.
And then he's like hecriticizes her.
What do you mean?
People don't say you have anengagement, like there's like
some language games that theytry to play yeah, hold on the
part.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
The best part is next line.
Do you remember the next line?

Speaker 1 (26:04):
No.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Because she goes.
I don't tell you how to speak,do I and he?

Speaker 1 (26:20):
goes.
Yes, you do, because you justdid it.
It was right before you saidthe last thing you just said.
And that doesn't work.
That's not a joke.
Well, and more importantly, thething about this movie is the
relationships don't make anysense.
Sure, sure.
The thing you want aboutrelationships is you want to be
like oh yeah, those people aretogether.
You know, it's like man andwife that head pecks him, like,
okay, I understand thatsituation.
I understand we can't just makeup like, like this dynamic

(26:44):
doesn't make any sense.
He's inviting her to somethinghe wouldn't go to, she wouldn't
go to, she's refusing it, thennitpicking him, and then she's
like you know why are younitpicking me?
And then he nitpicks her andthen she's like why are you
nitpicking me?
Why would anyone do that?
And you're just like I don'tunderstand.
You have no understanding ofwhat the power dynamic is.

(27:06):
Power dynamics are everythingand everyone in this movie.
Nobody has power.
That's true.
And it drives you crazy,because that's the thing about
it is you want to see dynamicsshift over time and over
learning and something like that.
But if everyone's just likeneutrally doing stuff, like I'm

(27:28):
just as funny as you or I canjust be as comedy as you.
It leaves us nothing to beinvested in For sure.
Because no character can everseem to have a win, because
everybody's just doing their own.
If everybody's in their ownuniverse, there's nothing
happening and they are.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
They are indeed boom.
So hold on, I'm trying to findoh, maybe I didn't write it down
, so there's, there's twomoments in this movie that do
this exact same.
Not exact same, but almost theexact same exchange, sure where
she criticizes the way he speaks, then he criticizes the way she

(28:10):
speaks, and then she says, well, I wouldn't do that to you,
even though she just did it.
And he goes yeah, you just didit, and that's supposed to be a
joke.
And then later the two um, themuscles, whatever the the two
bad guys.
Yeah, the bad guys oh they're inthe car and one of them says

(28:31):
like, oh, this is going tohappen, and then the other guy
goes, oh, it happened.
And the guy goes what happened?
That sort of exchange as if,like, he just said it, he agreed
with you, and then now you'reconfused and like these are the
types of things that drive mecrazy.
Like they think it's clever butit's not something that would
ever happen.
Like nobody, nobody, is thisstupid and that's not funny,

(28:53):
it's just, it's just off putting, it's just weird.
There's no, there's no humanrhythm to the dialogue you're
giving me and it just drives mecrazy.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
In Fargo you have the two characters you have.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Steve.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Buscemi and you have the big quiet guy, Steve
Buscemi's doing Steve Buscemi inone of the greatest actors in
the world and the other guy'sjust standing there being.
You know, he's just.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
And you know it's which he does again in this
movie, by the way, but continue.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
And it builds up.
You know, you can see thepressure building as the
pressure of the movie builds andthen at a certain point it all
breaks because Steve Buscemigets his hand messed up or his
face messed up and he's all likebleeding, and he's just like
you fucking idiot.
Blah, blah, blah, blah blahbecause he's gotten away with it
the whole movie.
And then I think the guy justshoots him or kills him.
He reaches his point and weunderstand that.
We understand the one personsitting here taking it from the
other person, and then you getto the breaking point.

(29:47):
It breaks boom.
They do the exact same thing inthis movie and it never works.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Because they don't do the build.
They kind of gently do it alittle bit, and then we just
skip a bunch of scenes, I thinksomewhere.
And then we get to the pointwhere they're yelling at each
other and we're like, why, why,I think somewhere.
And then we get to the pointwhere they're yelling at each
other and we're like, why, why,why are they even yelling at
each other?
They've they barely fought thisentire movie.
I found it, I did write it down.
The one, the the bald one, sayswell, that won't come off with

(30:16):
soap and water.
And then the other guy goes itwon't.
And the bald guy goes it won'twhat?
That's the exact dialogue.
It won't come off with soap.
Goes it won't what?
That's the exact dialogue.
It won't come off with soap andwater.
It won't what won't?
That doesn't make any sense.
Doesn't make any sense.
He's literally responding toyour words.
You can't then just be likewait, what do you mean?

(30:36):
Ha ha, what do you mean?
Isn't that funny that I don'tknow what you mean?
So dumb, so terrible.
I hate this movie and that's.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
And the other thing is right.
You have relationships that arebuilding right.
They're building to a point ofclimax and then, once we hit the
climax, then we figure out whatour new dynamic is.
It might be one of the peopleis dead.
It might be we split up andthen we realize we really do
need to be together and we'rewilling to go that split up and

(31:04):
then we realize we really doneed to be together and we're
we're willing to go that.
Or you can have the thingswhere this is just, it's just,
this is, this is theirrelationship right, and you need
a mix of both of those things.
You can't have everybodybuilding until something happens
.
You need to have have a thingwhere this is, this is a stable,
where this is a stable thing,this is an unstable thing, and

(31:26):
those things are going to weavetogether.
This one, oh bad.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, it's all bad.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Okay, someone else is having sex and there's another
call.
I think it might have been aman and a woman, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
No, isn't it.
Who are they calling right now?
Is this when they call Beanie?
Maybe, because I don't know, Igot.
I got a little confused withall the sex at the beginning, to
be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
But because I couldn't tell who was having sex
.
Yeah you gotta set up who'shaving sex if you're gonna have
people I don't know.
I think we know later on we'relike oh, I see that she was
cheating on her well, did youthink at first that the two
leads were together?

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Because in that phone conversation while she's having
sex she like lies about havingsex to.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Oh yeah, Because she's on the phone, yeah, and
the woman's still making sexnoise in the background and
you're like which maybe I'm notgood at sex, but that seemed a
little weird to me.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
I don't know, I don't .
She's not.
She's no longer even near inthe vicinity of this other woman
, I don't know.
Uh, maybe she's pleasuringherself, I don't know.
It was really weird.
But then she's like I'm nothaving, there's no sexy, I'm not
having sex.
I was watching porn.
Why is she lying to marion ifthat's not her girlfriend?
I thought for sure they weretogether and she's cheating on

(32:46):
her.
But it turns out that she'scheating on someone entirely
different and Marion reallywouldn't care at all.
So I was immediately confused onwho's with who and why I don't
know.
I still don't know why she lied.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
There's more names than there are setups of who's
who.
So you're just like okay, wegot all these names and a bunch
of naked butts.
We don't know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, Other than you know, naked butts.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
I don't know if there were naked butts.
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
I saw any butts.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
if I'm being completely honest, Now we're at
the lesbian bar and they'retalking about YTK Jamie's on
stage, and then she talks aboutsomething called a body shot
competition.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
You've never done a body shot.
Competition, dan, come on.
No, I'm kidding, it's a veryspring break thing to do.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Oh, is that just taking body shots off of someone
?

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah, I don't know, and then I guess she judges on
who does the best, I don't know.
Well, that's exactly.
I was like, yeah, I've neverdone it there's.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
You know what a body shot is, but you don't know what
a body shot.
Competition is sure sure wedon't understand what that is
man well maybe it's a thing, acertain percent, but yeah, if,
if you're writing a movie from2000 and you're talking to a
bunch of kids.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
The 2000 was actually my.
That's when I grew up.
I mean I graduated 2003.
I should know all of this.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
I know what a body shot is, but I don't know what a
competition of it is.
And you're a winner.
What do you?
I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
You know, maybe just get more body shots, double damn
.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
So Suki is there, and that's played by Beanie.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, she's great.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
She is somehow Jamie's girlfriend, which
doesn't make any sense becausethey never interact with each
other in a seemingboyfriend-girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
That's why I was so confused.
When she shows up and she'slike, oh, she's a whore.
I was like, wait, who is thislady?
Why is she so mad at our leadlady?
I was so confused because Ithought, for sure, marion was
her girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
And as we go along, this relationship is
unbelievable Because if you werein a relationship with Jamie,
you would understand Jamie,because Jamie is exactly the
same way at every second Doesn'tchange at all, which is why the
end of this movie is veryconfusing to me.
Yes, it is.
So they kind of are breaking up.

(35:16):
And then Jamie's talking and weget to meet her for the first
time and she says I've had itwith love.
And she's kind of doing georgeclooney's character from have a
brother, where art thou.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
But it's also even more weirdly southerny and it's
because it's weirder here,because there aren't other
people also doing similar things.
Also, where is she from?
No idea, no idea.
I don't know where she's from.
I don't know why she's whereshe is now, and then they're

(35:54):
going to Tallahassee, which issouthern, but she's not from
there at all.
So I don't understand anythingabout her character, other than
she doesn't come from planetEarth.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
No, anything about her character other than she
doesn't come from planet earth.
No, the starting of the startof this accent is just it's what
was the other movie we watchedthat the person had like the
terrible accent and you justwanted the director to say to
them at the beginning pleasestop I don't remember, but
here's I.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
I was also thinking I was like oh, we've seen a movie
where this is, but here's thedifference is.
I think that I was like oh,we've seen a movie where this is
, but here's the difference is.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
I think that Ethan was like yes, oh yeah, no, he
was, yes, dial it up.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Dial it up, baby, dial it up, come on, honey, baby
, or whatever the frick she saysthroughout this movie.
Oh God, I hate her.
I hate, her and she's in thenew one.
I saw the trailer for the newmovie that you were talking
about.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
it's part of their trilogy honey don't, or whatever
it's part of the trilogy.
This is this is they're doing atrilogy this is the first part
of the trilogy.
That's the second part of thetrilogy it's those movies.
They're not the same charactersno, but I believe they're sort
of in the same universe, sameworld.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yeah, that's too bad and I don't want to see the next
one.
You're not gonna make me watchit, are you?
Oh yes, of course I am son of abitch.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
I'm awaiting the one week after it comes out in
theaters and fails until I can.
Uh, I can get you to pay for iton demand or whatever oh yeah,
absolutely.
Well, you're welcome that'snumber one on my list of things
24.99 for that piece of shit.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
I'm gonna come after you, Dan.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Okay, she's had it with love they go to, but she
wasn't in love right?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
No, she was never in love.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
So what is this?

Speaker 2 (37:31):
character really, really raging against here.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Well, you got to remember, right, the beginning
of stripes, right, what happensat the beginning of stripes.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
You think I remember stripes 1982.
I don't know exactly when itcomes up, but that was 40 years
ago, Dan.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
It's only 40 years ago.
He like loses his job, he getsbroken up and then he drags his
friend down there to therecruiting office.
All like within the first eightminutes of the movie Sure.
That's what you do you untetheryour characters.
That's a common thing.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
I'm not saying structurally.
I don't understand what they'redoing, Dan.
I'm saying the character thatthey're presenting wouldn't have
any feelings about thiswhatsoever.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Not at all.
She doesn't care about anyoneexcept herself.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Except herself.
Yes, of course, yeah, yeah,yeah, very confusing.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Don't we start in the middle.
She's having sex with someoneand she chooses to answer the
phone, and it's not even animportant phone call.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Nope, yep, just her friend Apparently, not her
girlfriend, just her friend.
Just random friend that is justNot even talking about anything
important, but the good news isthat she's so good at it that
that girl's still enjoyingherself.
I'm just very confused aboutthat.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Once I walk away, they still keep going for
another half an hour.
It's just weird.
It's all weird and that's thething about it is, if this, it's
not that she's playing like amale role, but it's like it's
almost like they're forcing thischaracter to be sort of so

(39:07):
odious in her approach torelationships.
You know, you're like, I don'tlike.
If you knew this person in reallife and they were like this,
you'd be like you're a terribleperson A hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
But here's and here's .
My thing is, if we were goingon a journey with this character
, if she was learning from hermistakes and becoming a more
full-founded partner which isclearly what they think happens
just given the trajectory ofwhere this character ends up.
But I don't know how we gotthere.
Like I feel like she learnsnothing, nothing, nothing,

(39:39):
nothing.
Hey, let's get married.
I love love.
I I whiplash, complete whiplash.
I have no idea how we went fromthere to there, but there was
not an arc.
If there was, at least an arcwhere she's like, oh, she's a
terrible girlfriend, but alsodon't make her hate love.
Then in the beginning, like, oh, I'm over love because she was
never in love.
Let's be very clear.
She did not care about hergirlfriend, but if at all.

(40:00):
But if she was just like, hey,I'm a player, I'm going to cheat
on you, I don't really care.
But then she learns to lovebecause her best friend teaches
her.
That's a fine storyline.
But that's not what we do.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Do we ever say that Marriott's her best?
They don't even seem likefriends.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
No, no, I'm not even sure that these two characters
can exist in the same space-timecontinuum.
They're so different just intheir level of humanity.
That's the word.
It's so weird.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
There's a point at which they're driving in the car
and they're kind of going backand forth and I'm just like
these characters shouldn't knoweach other.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
They shouldn't be in a car together.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
They're in different, you know different.
They're in different movies.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Different movies, different universes, different
timelines.
One's in the bad timeline, thething about, like, if you think
back to Raising Arizona, whichis the only Coen Brothers movie
I truly remember, you think backto that and what's?
What's the holly hunter?
Is that?
Yeah?
yeah, it's how you had to playholly and nick are in the same
movie, so they are like they are.

(41:08):
They are 100 in the same movie.
You see them.
They're like they're a terriblecouple.
But I get it.
I, I totally understand, andthat's the difference.
Right like this is, this oddcouple is just it could not
exist in a world, any world.
I don't care if you built theworld from scratch.
You built it in a way that theycan't coexist in in racing

(41:31):
arizona.
He is so in love with her sodeeply madly in love with her
for no fucking reason but it'sso good, she's a police officer.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
We see the moment that he falls in love, with her
Getting his mug shot.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
just like the love strides.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
And we believe it.
We believe that that guy woulddo anything for her, except
things that are constraining him, like he goes and steals a baby
for her.
I need to have the baby.
I need that.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
He goes and steals a baby for her.
It's great Listen.
A lot of people don't like thatmovie, right?
Which is fine because it's alittle zany.
It's a little over the top.
It's very over the top, but itmakes sense in its own world,
like the world is cohesive.
This is the opposite of that.
This is completely untethered.
Nothing makes sense.

(42:20):
And they is the opposite ofthat.
This is completely untethered,nothing makes sense.
And they're like it's the samekind of vibe, don't you think?
And I don't?
I really don't think it is noteven for a second.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Okay, we, we uh, boom , boom, boom, oh god.
So she's okay, wait, wait.
Okay, we're, I've had it withlove.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,wait, wait.
She goes there.
Oh, they're at Marion'sapartment talking about it and
Marion is going to Tallahassee,florida for unknowable reasons,
just to leave town or something.
For birding To see your family.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
No for birding For birding, that's right yeah yeah,
yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
How much birding did they do during the movie.
Negative they do the oppositeof birding, so much that it's a
negative birding.
You cannot set up a characterthat says they're going
somewhere for a specific thingand then they never do the thing
, never mentioned the thing atall.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
She doesn't even name a bird in the movie.
There should be a point atleast where she names a bird.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
You've said see, this is like improv comedy teaches
us You've given yourself a gift.
That's what this movie is notabout.
But whenever you're in a lullor you need something to do,
birding occurs.
Yep, so they're going to get adrive away, which is a thing
that they used to have, whereyou get a car and it goes from

(43:39):
one point to another point.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
I wish I knew that that was a thing, because that's
actually awesome and I totallywould have done that.
Yeah, oh yeah, I'm bummed thatI missed out.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
I remember it.
It was a thing and I remembertalking with people about it
that had done it.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Yeah, jealous.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
So they go, man, I wrote so little about this scene
.
They go to Suki's apartment, oh, and immediately we have a
dildo on a plaque sticking outof the wall and then, we do this
whole bit with unscrewing itand that was a gift, and this,
that and the other thing, andit's just weird.

(44:17):
And then there's a dog who'slike an evil dog that they all
don't understand this.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yeah, so the dog was a gift to sookie, but sookie
doesn't like the dog, which, bythe way, makes her immediately
unlikable to me.
I'm just like all right, well,I don't care about you, you
don't love this little dog.
He's hilarious.
She, she, he, she, they, Idon't know Dog's hilarious, it's
just so weird.

(44:45):
And the whole movie is hertrying to give the dog back to-.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
But it's also not all about that Sure, sure, sure.
If that's what it was about, ifthat was like this dog is a
terror.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah and she is following them.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
You know.
Think about that through life.
That's a freaking.
She's kicking this dog.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
That makes more sense than what happens.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
She goes in, she stays in a hotel room.
The dog eats the entire hotelroom.
You could have done so manybits with this.
The dog from hell, it's justthe dog from hell, great.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah, do that.
That's a great B story, right,like your B storyline is the
ex-girlfriend trying to giveback the terrible dog and then
just happens to save the daybecause she's there and is a cop
.
But instead what kind ofhappens is that she decides to
follow them after they call herand are like, hey, we have a
case, and then she's like Iguess I'll just bring the dog to

(45:40):
you, which is like a weird.
It doesn't really make sense.
I don't know, man, I don't knowthis movie is bad, I don't know
.
But let's so back to this scene, though.
Again, here's my biggestproblem.
Like it's this scene.
If you want to know my biggestproblem with this movie, you
watch this scene right, causeyou've got Beanie doing over the

(46:06):
top crying about the dildo onthe wall and she's trying to
unscrew it and give it back.
That's a funny concept to me,yeah, and she's doing it Great.
Then you cut away to the othertwo ladies and you have one that
shows no emotion whatsoever andthen the other one is doing her
stupid acts.

(46:26):
It's like it was a gift.
It was a gift Like that's, whocares if it was a gift?
Like, make it mean something tosomebody.
Right now the entire focus ofthis scene is a dildo on the
wall.
That means nothing to anybody.
Nobody has an emotionalconnection to the thing that
you're making the scene about,and that's ridiculous.
That is so stupid.

(46:47):
If you make the scene about it,someone has to give a shit
about it.
That doesn't make any sense.
Why does nobody care?
Why am I watching it?
I just I was losing my mindbecause you have a very funny
concept, which is this hilariousphallus on the wall that she
can't screw off, but she lovesit.
But she's giving it back, orshe loves that it was inside her

(47:08):
, I don't know what it is, butsomeone has to care If nobody
cares.
I don't care, and I'm justwatching this weird scene
between three people that don'tcare about anything that's
happening in their lives.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
I mean for that whole scene.
I literally wrote one, two,three, four, five, six, seven,
eight.
I wrote nine words because it'sjust like.
What am I supposed to write?
It's just it's, it's.
There's a dog and I don't know.
I don't know what anythingmeans to anybody who cares.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Because nothing means any anything to anybody, even
the dog.
Nobody likes the dog, Nobodylikes the dog.
Nobody likes the dog.
Nobody likes the dildo.
Why is she crying?
Why are these people here?
Nothing makes any sense.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Were they there even picking anything up?
Did they eat somethingimportant?
She?

Speaker 2 (47:50):
came to get her things, because one of her lines
is I came to get my stuff, butthat was a gift, you can keep it
.
What stuff did she get?
Did she get anything?
I think she had like a littlething under her arm, like a
little bag or something.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Maybe clothes, but it doesn't mean anything.
It's not something that'sneeded in the movie, nothing
means anything in this scene?

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Nothing, nothing means anything.
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Okay, then we meet Curly.
Curly runs the driveway place.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
My second favorite character this whole movie place
.
My second favorite characterthis whole movie.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Yes, they show up and he's a great actor, very funny.
I don't know what his name is,I've seen him in stuff before
he's wonderful, and then he'sall like they're trying to rent
the car and then I guess the badguys are going to be dropping

(48:39):
off the car that needs to gothere.
And then he or have dropped itoff, yeah he has the car.
He has the car.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
The bad guy calls and is like I'm sending two drivers
to take the car.
And then the ladies show up andsay they're going to
Tallahassee and he's like, oh,you must be the drivers.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
So basically, they're getting the car that has the
has the briefcase in the trunk.
Great, uh, what's her name ismapping out their trip and wait
wait, wait.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Are we already done with curly?
Sure?
I just want to shout outcurly's joke, because this is
the one, one of the what threelaughs I had in the whole movie.
She calls him Curly becauseit's written on his uniform and
he's like don't call me Curly,isn't that your name?
My name's Curly, but it's tooformal.
We just met.
He delivers it so perfectly,it's so flat, it's so like I'm

(49:37):
not mad, I'm not upset, I'm justlike we don't know each other.
Don't call me Curly.
He like I, I'm not mad, I'm notupset, I'm just like we don't
know each other.
Don't call me curly.
He just delivers it so well.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
And if everybody in this movie delivered lines as
perfectly as he did, I almostwould have watched the whole
thing.
I'm gonna say so.
Wouldn't have.
Yeah what?
Imagine you're an actor.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
It's gonna be hard, it's hard for me to imagine that
because of all the rejection inmy life.
But yeah, continue.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
You get a Coen Brothers script in the mail.
You read through it and it'sthis script and you're like.
You have to do it, though, evenif you're Matt Damon.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
And that's the thing, right, because there's a couple
of nice cameos in this, youknow, pedro, matt Miley, and
yeah I, I mean it's a cohen.
It's a cohen you can't not.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
You can't say no.
You have faith in the process ahundred percent.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
They win awards.
People seem to enjoy that.
I don't know why either ofthose things happen personally,
uh, but they happen and so youhave to jump on the ride, even
if you, you would be able todeliver that joke.
So you know why it would happen, right, You're like well, I can
deliver this joke.
Sure, no, I meant if I read.
But you know there's a chancethat Curly didn't get the whole
script.

(50:50):
Let's be honest, curly couldhave just gotten his scenes and
he was like what the hell'shappening?
Where's this movie?
This is not the movie I was in.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
But you think Matt Damon only got his part of the
script.
No, Matt Damon knew Matt.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Damon probably owes them something from some other
time.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
He's indebted to the Coens.
They have some dirt on him.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
That must be deep deep dirt Because his part sucks
, his part's terrible, hedoesn't do anything interesting
so they're mapping out the thetrip, or she's mapping out the
trip and wants to go see likethe world's largest dixie cup.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
That is not who she is.
She is not.
I would need to go see theworld's largest dixie cup nope,
sure isn't.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
This scene doesn't make any sense, although she
does have one good line.
I didn't write it down becauseit's not funny, but it's just
like a, you know, an interestingline to live by.
The marion said something tothe fact of like we don't.
It's a straight line from hereto here.
We don't need to go to thisplace and she says we don't need

(51:55):
to enjoy our lives, but we'rehere, so we might as well.
And I was like that's a, that'sa fun motto for a character to
live by.
I don't feel like that hasanything to do with the rest of
the movie, but if you take thatone line as your character, that
could be an interestingcharacter to make.
That is a great character.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
That is a character that could be really interesting
to interact with.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Marion, who doesn't live her life that way, to
interact with Marion, whodoesn't live her life that way
and she could learn.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
The movie could be about her learning to actually
go a different path and not gojust from A to B.
Yeah, you know, yeah, what aninteresting concept.
Yeah, you know.
Third breakfast they've eatentogether.
She's eating the exact samebreakfast.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
And Jamie's like what the hell are you doing?

Speaker 2 (52:40):
You got to get something different.
Give me some grits.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Grits right now and I need brown sugar.
You know not that I would eatgrits, but make these characters
.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
I don't mind grits.
I think grits are fine.
I've never had them.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
But you know, it's a weird texture.
I think that's where everyonegets hung up.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
You put brown sugar on it, right, I assume?

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Yeah, sure, sure, yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
This is a scene where she's like showing who she is
and we're seeing who.
Marion is and Marion's like oh,oh, oh, whatever, yeah, yeah,
whatever it is, you got to findthat log line for your character
and you've got to beat that,because that's what the audience

(53:23):
wants to see.
We want to understand who sheis and then we want to see her
do the things that she is, andthen we want to see her struggle
to overcome some stuff or tofigure out how to integrate that
stuff better into her life soshe's happier whatever, and then
they can fall in love and getmarried.

(53:44):
Back at Curly's the bad guysshow up and they beat him up and
they realize that they've lostthe car.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Yeah, and there's this.
I'm just going to keep shoutingout lines that I just despise.
There is a line he says youwouldn't know wet cement if it
bit you in the ass.
That's what qualifies as a jokein this movie, dan.
I don't think it made me laugh.
Of course it didn't make youlaugh.
That wouldn't have made youlaugh 30 years ago when it was

(54:15):
written, because that issomething that a dad says every
single day of their lives.
You know what I mean.
Like, oh, you're looking forthe tv remote.
Oh, it's gonna bite you in theass.
It's so close.
Oh, you wouldn't know this ifit punched you like that.
That's not a new joke, it's notan interesting joke.
You don't put a spin on it,you're just regurgitating
something everyone has heardeight million times in their

(54:37):
lives and you're like this isthis is gonna be a good joke,
this is gonna be good, awful,awful writing they're driving
and jamie talks about my projectand then she's like what's your
project to get you laid?

Speaker 1 (54:53):
and we're like this, is that's what this is about now
.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Now, this is like a teen sex comedy all of a sudden.
I don don't understand.
This is American Pie.
What's going on here?

Speaker 1 (55:01):
We needed to set that up.
Minute one, you know she I meanbecause we talk about how I
think we also do how long it'sbeen since she had sex at this
point and it's since she had herlast girlfriend Like whatever
and you're like well, thisshould have.
This is act one.
I mean this should be in actone.
It should not be in the middleof the beginning of act, where

(55:23):
we're cruising into act two.
Fast and Furious.
What did they write?

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Jamie painted something on the back of the car
.
Oh, I should have written itdown.
It's something like love ishell or something.
Those are four of the wordsLove is.
I'm missing somewhere.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Those are four of the words, love is a-.
Okay, I'm missing some words.
You're missing the middle.
Love is a sleigh ride to hell.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Oh, there you go, yeah, yeah, because then at the
end they do something differentand it's supposed to be cute or
something, and I meant to writeit down.
It's just something like-.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Love is a sleigh ride .
Here goes.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Yeah, like what?
Okay, is that the?
Is that the capstones of thismovie?
Is that what this movie isabout?

Speaker 1 (56:08):
because I don't think it is love is a sleigh ride to
hell.
What I don't know.
What is that?
A sleigh ride is christmas yeah, it's going to christmas.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
A sleigh ride would be Christmas yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
I don't understand this.
It doesn't mean any.
I mean, I do not think thatthat is something that's a
lesbian community thing.
Maybe it is Sleigh rides.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
I don't think so.
I don't believe that that is.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
But it's also not because it's not A human thing.
Yeah, it's not a cultural thingthat anyone has ever heard of,
you know.
Nor does it have anything to dowith this movie.
Life is a bitch and then youdie, right Sure.
That is something people say.
This is not something anyonehas ever said or will ever say.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
No, you have to put it in their heads.
Does it make any sense?

Speaker 1 (57:00):
And they also seem to think that this could get them
into trouble going into theSouth.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Right, yeah, I don't, I don't.
Yeah, I have no idea there wasone.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Oh, what was it?
I think there was a Top Gear.
Was it a Top Gear episode?
It was.
Maybe it was a jackass episode.
It was some episode where thoseare two very different shows,
different things.
But they came over to, theycame to the south and they
painted something on the side ofthe car that enraged people.
Yeah, and there are things youcan paint on the side of way

(57:33):
more jackass, I think it was topgear.
What?
Was it, it was probablysomething different, probably
something right in between thosetwo things.
Sure.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Point being if you paint something outrageous on
your car, you can't say we mightget in trouble for this.
And then you read it and you'relike why?

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Why?
Who cares?
Well, maybe because they don'tget snow in the South, so
there's no sleigh rides, ridesand people are upset about it.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Okay, we get to the motel, there's an old guy and
then she just does a whole thingabout where's the lesbian
action and you're like butyou're, it's weird, you wouldn't
do that, not to that guy who,as far as I can tell, can't talk

(58:25):
, like he doesn't say a singleword.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Right did they?
They had to have checked inwith him at the motel, so they
would know already that hedidn't talk the whole time.
He may not have moved.
I he's, he's dead, this guy.
I don't know what's going on,but he's just sitting in a chair
with his breathing tubes,doesn't say a word, doesn't move
a muscle, it's it.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
This scene is so weird because I don't know we're
setting up a thing, is she?
She's not afraid to just do thething anywhere to anyone?
Well, yeah then you have toshow her doing that already
right.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
And here's the problem is they do that later at
the next hotel.
She's like hey, here I'm gonnapay with my rainbow card, hey,
we're lesbians, and there's,it's an almost good scene the
next one which is where marionis asking normal hotel questions
and then she's asking ifthey're, if they're okay with
them being gay, like that's a.

(59:23):
That's a really interestingdichotomy while this poor, this
poor guy is like of course, ofcourse we do, of course, like
it's a that's a nice scene.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
That's a scene, but this scene doesn't make any
sense.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
No, she wouldn't be.
I don't know.
I don't know.
He doesn't.
That guy doesn't exist in theworld.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Well, she doesn't even notice, that's the other
thing is she doesn't even noticethat he doesn't exist, right.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Right, yeah, she does a hello.
At the end of her littlediatribe she's like hello, hello
.
And again, they had to havechecked in with this guy, so I
feel like she's alreadycommunicated with him.
It's all weird.
It just doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
You know, and if he can't even communicate, then
she's got to be hello, she's gotto wave the hands in front of
his face.
She's got to reach there, steala pack of gum.
You got to do something.
Yeah, we're getting throughthis movie.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Are we?
I feel like we've only done 10minutes of this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
They talk about.
They find out that there's aplace called the Butter Churn,
and then Jamie starts to teachMarion how to pick up girls.
And then Marion's like I want arelationship with authenticity,
okay, whatever, okay, whatever,marion.
Jamie's at the room readingHenry James.

(01:00:39):
Oh, wait, oh, so they go to thebar, yeah, and this sort of
entails.
And so they're at this bar.
The bar's like whatever.
And then Jamie goes back to theroom.
Is it in reading?
No, marion, you wrote down theroom.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Marion Bales goes back and reads a book, and then
Jamie comes back with a girl.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Yes, returns with Amber, and then Jamie goes to
the lobby to read her book.
Once again, jamie is the mostinsensitive piece of shit in the
world.
Yeah terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Wow, just awful.
Terrible friend, just real bad.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Yeah, this is your best friend.
And here we go.
This is when I you know, I knewthis was a bad movie.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
And then I was like but is it a bad?

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
movie that's going to truly anger Tony from the tip
of his nose right down to histoes.
This is when we have thepsychedelic interludes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
We go into this 70s nonsense dream type sequence
where it is doesn't make anysense and even when they, like I
was.
So I was reading on, I wasgoing down some reddit rabbit
holes on this movie becausethere are people that like this
movie and really, that's fine.
Okay, there are people thatlike it.
I will never understand it, butI'm not gonna yell at you but

(01:01:57):
they everyone was like itdoesn't make sense at first, but
then when they pull it alltogether at the end, no, no,
they did not pull it alltogether at the end because all
it is is a flashback to themmaking a penis.
It has nothing like.
It doesn't have to be.
This psychedelic nonsensedoesn't make any sense.
There's that vibe of the moviedoesn't give me like 70s, like

(01:02:18):
everyone's like, oh, they'redoing sexploitation, it's like I
don't care.
This movie doesn't give me like70s.
Everyone's like, oh, they'redoing sexploitation, it's like I
don't care.
This movie doesn't make a pointabout that.
If this movie was like a parodyor like making a point about
how I don't know, but it doesn'tmake any sense in this movie.
But it's so Coen Brothers toput in some sort of quote, dream
sequence type of thing.
And I was just like, yeah,exactly, this is what they do.

(01:02:39):
And there's and this guy's badat it, he's bad at it alone.
He doesn't know how to do italone.
He needs a friend.
He's a friend.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
They're back joel, come home, come home joel.
They're back on the road.
They're talking aboutcunnilingus.
Then the marion says youshouldn't have brought someone
back.
And I wrote why is this moviehappening?

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Here's and listen.
I said I wasn't going to talkabout their lesbian thing, but
there's this cunnilingusconversation.
It's very confusing to mebecause she's like someone's
going to put their tongue in meand it's going to wiggle out my
asshole and then she's like somepeople can cunnilingus
themselves, some yogis.
I was like what are we talkingabout right now?
I'm so confused.
I don't think that this is aconversation anyone should ever

(01:03:32):
have with a Marion typecharacter, like the way that
we've built Marion.
She would be so uncomfortablewith this conversation but
there's your question.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Was she uncomfortable ?

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
No, she didn't seem that uncomfortable to me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
She just sat there, whatever, right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
And that makes me uncomfortable, because the way
that they built her not thatlike prude is the right word,
but she's conservative, right,yeah, she's at least
conservative, we can say that.
And if I was in that car withsomeone who was saying things
like this to someone who wasmore reserved, I would be so
uncomfortable for them, whetheror not they say anything, I

(01:04:09):
would be like whoa, shut thehell up.
This is not an OK conversationto have with this person, this
type of person who does notenjoy what you and I might enjoy
.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
But this movie doesn't even do that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
It doesn't even make you uncomfortable.
No, no for sure.
I just think that thatconversation doesn't make sense
in the world that they've built.
That's all.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
They pull off the freeway.
They go to Gino's to get pizza.
Pull off the freeway they go togino's to get pizza.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
And then there's this soccer team that's all lesbians
.
I have, I what?
How old is this soccer team,dan?

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
all in their 20s and 30s okay you think so?

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
okay, I was just like is this?
Supposed to be like a highschool team.
I was really confused on theage and then it seems like one
of them might have been thecoach, but maybe I'm reading
into it too much.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
One of them was the coach, but they made it seem
like this is like yeah,everybody knows about this one
soccer team that's all lesbians.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
That sure, and you know I get that.
Maybe maybe that makes sense.
I have no idea.
It was weird.
My thing was I was just likethe whole time I was concerned
about the age of everybodyinvolved.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Because it's weird, when you say soccer team, you
think that they are a highschool soccer team.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Sure, because.
Is this just like a pickup?
It's not like a pickup game.
Is it like an adult league?
Is that a thing we have no idea?
I know, I know, but like, maybeit's like.
Maybe that, like people dosoftball teams at work, maybe
they do soccer teams.
I've never heard of that, butthat doesn't mean it can't exist
and that's why you brought aline in there, because that one

(01:05:55):
line sure cleans it all up sothat we're not all sitting there
going like are these 17?
year olds.
Let me know that they're of ageand so I don't feel skeezy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
That would be great then they end up back in this
basement and then everyone'smaking out and then the coach
blows a whistle and then yeah,okay.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
What Sure.
My problem is that that's thegame we're playing, right,
everyone's on board with it.
In this room, everyone seems tobe playing just fine.
They blow the whistle.
Marion is suddenly surprisedthat the next person in line is
her friend, jamie.
Why would she be surprised?

(01:06:41):
She would know she would be.
If this character is reallyworried about having to make out
with Jamie, she'd be watchingher at every turn and being like
, okay, three people away, twopeople away.
I got to get out of this game.
But instead the whistle blows,she walks over.
She's like, oh my God, Jamie,what are you doing here?
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
it's, she can't be surprised by this.
It's almost like there's ascene that you could have
written that makes some sense,or you could write this scene
that doesn't make any sense well, again they went option b, good
for them, good for them.
Uh, it gets awkward.
Uh, the bad.
Okay, this is.
This is the one scene youprobably like, because parts of

(01:07:19):
it are good.
So it gets awkward and I thinkthey leave or something I don't
even remember.
The bad guys have tracked downthe driveaway car to Suki's
apartment.
They go to Suki's apartment andwhat happens?
Tony.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
She just starts beating the shit out of one of
them and it is delightful,there's hardly any conversation,
and then one of the bad guys islike having a conversation with
her while she's beating theshit out of the other guy.
It's really it's.
It's a nice scene.

(01:07:51):
I just the movie should beabout her.
I don't care about the othertwo people in this movie at all.
Um, so she great she's veryfunny.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
We set up with the two bad guys the dynamic that
the one bad guy thinks he canbeat the information out of
anyone and use force to get it.
The other guy's like we canalways talk about things and so
he tries to beat her up.
She just beats the shit out ofhim.
And then the other guy's likewe're looking for your friend
and she's like she's not myfriend.
I will give you all theinformation to find her there is

(01:08:21):
one huge problem I have withthis scene.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
I do like the scene in general, but there is one
line that really bothers me andit's the ball, the ball.
While the guy's getting thecrap kicked out of him by beanie
, he's like well, you know hecan't hit back.
You're a girl.
I don't like that line.
I think you need to remove thatline from the movie.
It makes no sense.
She's beating the shit out ofhim.
It has nothing to do with himnot being willing to hit her.

(01:08:45):
She's better fighters yeahthat's, that has to be what's
happening.
Don't, don't give some weirdexcuse.
Oh well, he's a guy, he can'thit a girl.
No, no, no, she's beating theshit out of him.
That's funnier either way she'sjust beating and having a
conversation with the other guywhile she beats the shit out of
this guy.
That's a 10 out of 10 scene.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
And then you throw a line in there where she says to
him am I going to have to beatthe shit out of you?
You know like.
Great yeah, exactly she needsto, and that's, once again,
power structures the power.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
If she establishes her dominance over these two
guys, it's like, well, mydominance is, I can talk to you
and interact, you know whatever,and she does it because it's so
like he walks in and she, justlike gut, checks him and he's on
the ground and she's beaten.
It's, it's almost, it's almosta good scene and a terrible,
terrible film.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Oh, she pepper sprays him, and then the little dog
comes out and humps the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
You're like oh, that's right, that's.
The other thing I didn't likeis the end of the scene.
That's right.
He's laying on the ground andthe dog comes out and humps and
it's like, but why, yeah, Idon't know, just to humiliate
this guy, because later you needhim to kill the other guy.
But the other, the bald guy,needs to then comment on it or
something, or like make him feelless than because he's being
humped by a tiny little dog.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
Weird, oh, marion has little dog.
Weird, uh, oh, marion has fleedthe makeout party and she gets
stopped by the police.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Okay, fine, um, jamie's making out which is a
scene that should have beenfunny and wasn't.
And I'm I just I don't know why, I don't know if I'm just mad
at this movie or not but a scenewhere the cop is like where are
you coming from?
And she's like I don't know ahouse, where are you going from?
And she's like I don't know Ahouse, when are you going?
I don't know A motel, somewhereI don't know.
Like that should be funny.
She has no idea where she'sgoing or come from.

(01:10:26):
Like I don't know it should befunny.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
It's not Well more importantly, why did they arrest
her?

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Why did they arrest her?
Well, that's just walkingaround.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Jamie's making out in the car, and then she feels
guilty.
She goes to the motel.
Nobody's there.
Then, while Marion is in thehotel, she has this flashback of
being a child on a trampoline.
On a trampoline On a trampolinejumping up and down, and
there's a topless lady in a poolnext door.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
I did laugh at this.
Yeah, up and down, and there'slike a topless lady in a pool
next door.
I did laugh at this.
Yeah, because they do.
They do a nice build of theyoung version jumping, jumping,
trying to jump as high as shecan.
She's jumping, she's trying sohard, trying so hard, and then
they cut to what she's jumpingto and it's spying on her
neighbor and I was like that'sfunny and relatable, like that's
a relatable joke in a moviethat has zero relatability on

(01:11:21):
most of these characters.
There's a wonderful, likeactual, real moment of a child
discovering their sexuality byjumping, as I was, a cano
trampoline.
Great, it's almost a human joke.
I love it.
Tony likes the movie got it.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I like a scene we cut back.
It's not even a scene, it's atiny flashback which goes on too

(01:11:43):
long.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Well, sure, sure.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
In a movie that's 80 minutes, a lot of things go on
too long, and that's prettysurprising.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
We start doing the psychedelic stuff again and
we're like wait a second.
That's Miley Cyrus.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Which is very distracting, by the way, and I'm
sure that it's, you know it'sfun, but she's to this point.
She's the second big name we'veseen.
Yeah, right, like big star.
We saw Pedro at the beginning,who dies immediately, and then,
randomly, you see Miley in themiddle and you're like, wow,
what's going on?
Like, what is she doing?

(01:12:14):
I don't know.
The two bad guys are drivingaround and we've realized.
We learned that the one guycan't relate.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
The two bad guys are driving around and we've
realized, we learned that theone guy can't relate to the
public and just fights with hisfists, and the other guy can.
That's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Which is kind of what happens, but it's kind of not
as well, in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
I mean they've set up the situation that we're going
to push forward with.
Yeah, for sure, jamie bailsMarion oution out.
Don't know if you can bailpeople out with a credit card,
but maybe that's a good buy.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Yeah, I've never had to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
I don't know, usually at tow yards and places like
that, you have to pay cashthat's well, that's I.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
I had to get my car.
Did I tell you that my car gottowed for you?
It's like two months ago andand I didn't tell you this I
shouldn't be admitting this onthe internet, but I hadn't paid
my Tabs in three years,apparently.
I don't know how this happened.
Time is a weird.
Time is a weird fluid Thingwhere I don't understand how

(01:13:18):
long.
It's been, but I guess I wouldjust Were they mailing it to the
wrong place or something.
Yeah, they were mailing them toour old address and it just
never crossed my mind that Ihadn't been paying these things
and we've had to park on thestreet because someone parked in
our spot in our garage and itgot towed and we're like, oh my
god, our car is stolen.
But anyhow, long story short, Ifound the car eventually.
I called the police to reportit stolen.

(01:13:39):
They were like, hey, it's notstolen, moron, it's in the
impound lot because you're notpaying.
So I went and got it and I hadto go get cash that day, so
you're right, that was a longway of saying Dan Goodsell,
you're right, those kind ofthings demand cash because they
don't want to deal with bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Credit cards 100% when the repercussions are very,
very you know.
It's like I'm giving you amulti-thousand dollar card or
letting you out of prison whereyou're a criminal.
Yeah, I don't know whatever butI don't know either.
This is not a movie that wouldhave spent the time to google
whether or not you could paywith a credit card, because I
certainly would if I was writingthis movie right, and then I

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would have said something's likewho would have thought you
could bail people out with acredit card?

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
that seems seems crazy.
If you wrote this movie, ourfriendship would be over.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
I would write it good , I'd write it real good, then
we'd do the thing.
You know, I was not in prison,I was in jail.
You're like ugh.
It's like a thing where you'resitting there and she says
prison.
I'm like well, what I would saywas no, I was in jail, not
prison.
What I would say was no, I wasin jail, not prison.
But you're like also, that'sjust me being an asshole.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Yes, it is.
It's not a joke, but if that'syour character, then we like it
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
You know what I mean and that is my character.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
It is your character, dan, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
Oh, cops of attitude.
Then we do a whole cops ofattitude.
I don't have an attitude.
Some attitude, I don't have anattitude.
Marion doesn't know, she has anattitude.
I know that I play an assholeon TV.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Right, and I can ramp it up.
Yeah, you're just on TVeverybody.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
It's a facade.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Okay, I'm a super nice guy in real life.
No, I'm the king gaslighter,just as Shannon.
You need to understand people.
That's what Shannon needsannon.
Um, um, you need to understandpeople.
Let's uh, that's what shannonneeds to do.
Is janet needs?
To explain people to her andshe's like, no, they shouldn't
be that way.
I'm like, well, no well, she isright you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
She's right, but also wrong.
You know what I mean, becausethey shouldn't be that way.
The problem.
Problem is they are Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
They're going, they see this billboard of Matt Damon
, who's like a religious guywho's running for senator or is
senator, and they're like yeah,yeah, nice right wing.
Don't pull off there.
But then they get a flat tireand they scream and they almost
crash.
And now we finally open thetrunk and there's a briefcase.
The briefcase is in there.

(01:16:00):
And then they pick up thebriefcase and look under it for
the tire and there's anothercase under there that is smoking
.
And then she says don't open it.
And then we have to make areference to the movie Repo man,
because Repo man did the exactsame thing, Emilio.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I haven't seen that moviein a long, long time, but I was
just putting it together.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
There's the briefcase in the trunk that's not theirs,
and when you open it you getvaporized because it's nuclear
material or whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Oh jeez, she makes it or something.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
It literally kills a couple people.
It's bad, it's bad and so theyhave to make like a, and if you
have to make a reference in yourmovie to another movie to try
to show that you're not copyingthat movie and that movie came
out 40 years ago.
Yep, that's a problem.
That's a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Even when you wrote it and it came out 20 years ago.
That's still a stretch.
Just throwing that out there.
Heath Alright.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Don't open it, she opens it.
Oh, she opens the the bowlingball case and inside there is
what's his name's head?
It's a yeah, it's a head, tony.
Is there any reason why theysaved his head?

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
not that I'm aware of there it is.
I don't think we talk about it,but they do ask for it.
So clearly somebody wants itsomebody wants the head.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
We have no explanation as to why they would
want this head.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
It certainly implicates a bunch of crimes and
at the end it implicates crimes, and so the only reason that
head is in there is to implicatesomeone in crimes that they
wouldn't have been far enoughyeah, he was far enough removed
that if he hadn't been caughtwith the head and also trying to
shoot them, he would not havebeen in trouble probably so all
it does is make the endinghappen.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
But there's no reason .
Yeah, and this is.
This is exactly.
This is ac syndrome.
Right, you want to have a thingin a and you want to have a
thing happen at c.
You've got to fill in that B.
So then we're like oh, that'swhat's happening.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Yeah, stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
The two bad guys go to visit the soccer team.
The soccer team sends them on awild goose chase.
Yeah, at the diner, jamiedoesn't want to open the case.
They go to the other, the ElCanquistador, which is a nicer
hotel, where there's this sortof big guy there and this is
when she does the whole lesbianfriendly thing.

(01:18:31):
Is this place lesbian friendly?

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
Right, yeah, which is a funny thing.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Yeah, the bad guys go to Farm Road 80 and they go to
the Juke Joint Slappies and thenyou can't understand what he
says and it doesn't make anysense and we don't know why
we're there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
And it's not funny.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
We just have some weird people and we don't get
the shit beat out of them.
Nothing happens to them.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Nothing at all happens.
There's no new information.
There's literally no reason forthis scene to exist in this
film.
And again, I'm going to remindyou this is an 88 minute film,
something like that.
You shouldn't have a scene thatdoesn't need to exist in an 88
minute film.
You should be able to fill outan 88 minute film with real
stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
They call Suki and say we're going to help you with
a murder case and they tell herto go to Curly's because
they'll find people blah, blah,blah.
They go to dinner.
No, I think they go to thedinner place at the hotel.
And then we learn that.

(01:19:40):
So I think at this point theydecide that Jamie's like okay,
you haven't had sex and wehaven't really tried to get you
to have sex Really we took it tothe one place, and then the
soccer team kind of like well, Iguess I'm going to have sex
with you, yeah, uh, they startmaking out in the room, they

(01:20:02):
start having sex.
Then we have this there's likethey have champagne or something
and there's a glass ofchampagne and the bubbles are
coming up and it's thisbeautiful shot.
Sure, this just gorgeous shot.
And then you're like well, sure, we had that, I guess we had.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
we had some art.
Look at that, look at us.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
And then somebody falls asleep and then they
snuggle after sex.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
I mean it's almost funny.
She, they're both.
She Jamie pleasures Marion.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
Oh, yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
Marion falls asleep instantly after she's completed,
which is like a funny, that'sfunny.
You know, she's so tightlywound that she just needed that.
Uh, relax, and then.
And then they cuddle sleep,which is which is weird, but
then weirder in the morning okayfunny.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
It's actually almost funny the two bad guys are
getting tired and they talkabout having sex.
It was weird.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Yeah, because that's not really what they do, that's
not their thing, it's weird.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
You got to set up their bit, you have to follow
through with their bit and thenyou have to get to the
completion of their bit.
That's how bit works.
That's how comedy works.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
Yeah, that is how bit works.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
Marion has another memory of drilling a hole in the
fence to peep on the woman, andthe woman has a drunk husband
and then she puts on cowboyboots.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Yeah, I'm so confused Did I miss something here?
Because he comes out and he'slike hey, when are we going to
have dinner?
Like woman, make me dinner.
And then the first thing sheputs on are cowboy boots.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
The only thing she puts on.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
I think If she's going to put on pants.
That makes it really hard.
Would you put on?

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
cowboy boots right after you got out of the pool
and your feet were wet.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
No, it's going to be all sticky because they're like
leather and stuff no one wouldever do that with cowboy boots.
I just didn't understand this.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
I didn't understand it.
I don't know.
You don't put on your normalshoes with wet feet.
No one does that.
It's insane, it's just it'sdisgusting.
First, it doesn't make anysense okay, you want to talk
about what happens when uh, whenuh when they wake up?

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
they wake up.
When they wake up, what's hername?
Jamie?
Jamie's just furiouslymasturbating With oh I forgot.
Yeah, yeah, she's using one ofthe dildos they found, which we
didn't even say what was insidethe case, did we?
Well, they didn't.
Did we open it in front ofpeople?
Yet, yeah, we open it at thediner, or?

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Yeah, because we see that it's a bunch of dildos.
We don't know what they are yet, but we know that it's a bunch
of dildos.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
So there's five dildos in the case and you're
surprised.
And then you're just like, oh,it's disappointing.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
It's disappointing, and then it's disappointing
again Once you find out whatthey are, for me at least.
Because, as a MacGuffin, thisdoesn't even make sense to me.
But so she's, she's just goingto town and she's like I tried
to wait for you as long as Icould, which is a funny line to
me, but that's, that's kind ofit, and then, and then we just

(01:23:12):
move on, then we just move on.
Then the bad guys like bust inright.
Isn't that the?

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
next moment the bad guys bust in.
Don't look inside the case.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
Grab the case, grab the head and just leave.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
Yep, I don't know, but they oh wait, but they take
the girls too somehow Right.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
That's complex Well, not if you don't show it, that's
true.
It's actually really simple.
It's super simple if you justcut to the next scene and they
have all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
Incredibly easy to abduct people.
I mean just pull guns out.
Did they ever have?
Did they pull guns out?
They didn't pull guns out.
I don't think.
Just pull out your guns and say, okay, we're out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Get dressed and get out.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Yeah, let's go, let's go, whatever.
Uh, then we cut and we havemiley cyrus back to the
psychedelics having sex with, Iguess, matt damon ostensibly
it's a young cgi'd matt damon, Ithink or someone that's
supposed to look like young mattdamon?

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
I don't know, I couldn't really tell.
Luckily they had that weird 70spsychedelic thing over it, so
you can't really tell.
Maybe that was the whole pointand they were.
We can't make it look like MattDamon, so let's just obscure
his face with nonsense.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
Go to the dog track.
What's his name?
Whose place is it?
Big Boss Guy?
He's in that new Four Seasonsthing.
Delroy.
It's not Delroy Lindo, I don'tknow.
He's really good.
He's like the one person inhere who's like I'm going to act
in every one of my scenes.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
But is that good in this movie?
Well, yeah, you know what Imean, because that's what you
have to do.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
You have to be a really good actor.
To prove that you're a reallygood actor so you can say well,
I just did my scenes, so that Iwas.
Coleman Domingo.
Coleman Domingo, he's in thatnew terrible four seasons thing.
He's great.
Did you watch that?
We watched the first episode.
We watched 75% of the firstepisode.
Then we turned it off and we'relike, yeah, no, we're not going
there.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
All right, fair enough For very specific reasons
Interesting Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
They're at the dog track.
The girls are tied up.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
Somebody says a track , the girls are tied up.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Somebody says a day late in a dick short, so that
was very funny.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
That's, that's your boy, coleman yeah, he makes that
, he does that line and it's Imean it's a good line because
it's a twist on a classic saying.
You know, unlike you wouldn'tknow wet cement if it bit you in
the ass, which isn't a twist orclever on any level.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
So what we find out is that Matt Damon's character,
when he was college age, had sexwith Tiffany Plastercaster, who
there was, this real woman whodid this to rock stars oh, okay,
who did?
This, and so these five things.
The big boss guy tells this tothe girls, yeah sure does, tells

(01:26:04):
all this to the girls.
The whole story, the wholestory, the story that they would
not have any information aboutif he just shut the fuck his
mouth and took care of hisbusiness.
Just walked in there whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
So far it's just a random five set of dildos.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
Yes, doesn't mean anything, but now we find out
that these are five penises ofpowerful people and matt damon,
senator, wants his back becauseuh, because apparently if it
gets out, because he's soconservative that it would ruin

(01:26:38):
his reputation or something.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
So basically, basically you should, whatever
it's just here's my problem, andwe're going to get a little
personal here.
Okay, so now all of thesepenises pretty big, okay so like
in my eyes, I'm looking at thisand I'm like, like if someone
released that, I'd be like, yeah, look at that, that's pretty

(01:27:00):
nice.
If someone made a cast of mypenis was like, hey, we're gonna
release it, then we'd have someproblems because I'd be like
people don't need to know,people don't need to know what
that looks like, my friends.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
It's not great.
No compare god, does they?

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
damon's got a great penis apparent in this movie
like it's, it's so nice thatthis girl, these two girls, are
like man.
We're going to keep them.
You really want to lock thatdown?
Tell the world, baby.
Tell the world, well he's aconservative senator.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
Whatever it is, I know the point being is it
doesn't have his initials on it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
It's not like he signed it or something you can't
prove that it's him, you couldtake any dildo ever and be like
well, this is a cast of thisperson.
So here you go, one milliondollars doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
You're like, no, not make any sense, you can't
provenance it back to the girlthat did this.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
Maybe if miley cyrus was still in the movie and that
character was like peddlingthese wares, then maybe that
would make sense you gotta sella story, and the story is just a
casting of a penis.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
It just it's so thin and then you have the head,
whatever.
So the two hoodlum bad guys aregetting mad at each other.
The one guy kills the other guy, then he kills the boss, and
then he was about to kill thegirls, but he's run out of
bullets and so he just leaves.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
No, he doesn't just leave, he says the funniest line
of the whole movie.
He's almost in tears and hegoes Mommy and then runs away.
Boy, that's hilarious.
That tracks with his character.
That's something that somebodywho just killed two people would
say Super clever stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
I hate this movie um beady arrives in tallahassee
with the dog.
Um, they call the senatorbecause they want a million
dollars.
And then what's her name?
Jamie goes and gets artsupplies to surprise, surprise,
cast recast the penis um, howwould that?

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
how would that work exactly?
Can you make a cast of anothercast?
Because either you're eitherinside the cast or you're
outside the cast.
The size is going to change um,but I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
I don't know things okay, I know well, of course, I
know these things I know and.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
That's why I'm asking .
I want you to describe to mehow to make these dildos 10%
shrinkage.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
So basically, if I have this pencil, what I do is I
coat this pencil in latex.
I shouldn't be doing this, butI coat this pencil in latex.
I coat this pencil in latex, Icoat this pencil in latex and
then I can make like a two-partplaster mold, right, that holds
it in place, oh, and then youfill it.
Then I pull this out of thelatex and then I set this up and

(01:29:55):
then I pour new whatever thatkind of rubber is the rubber,
whatever the mold, yeah therubber into there, and then I
make a new pencil, but thispencil will be about 10% smaller
, because there'll be a little.
I think maybe not 10%.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
There is a little shrinkage that involves
somewhere along the way, notenough that it's probably going
to affect it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
Thank you for the art lesson, Dan.
It'll look pretty much the same.
So they call the senator.
They call the senator.
They call the senator.
Marion finishes her Henry Jamesbook.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
I don't know anything about the book, so I don't know
what that means.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
And then they go and have sex in the shower and then
they both get out.
They're both like.
I want to make love with thesenator's penis.
Jamie is happy and she makeslove with the senator's penis.
Jamie is happy and she makeslove with the senator's penis.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
I'm happy you're reading that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
That's fun this part was just weird yeah.
I don't get it the whole ideathat it's almost like they're in
love with his penis.

Speaker 2 (01:31:01):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's a great dick.
Okay, be proud of it, mattDamon, but that's just weird for
these characters to be upset?

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
I just don't understand.
I have no idea.
Okay, so they're at a lesbianbar.
In comes Matt Damon or MattDamon's there.
He's got the million dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
He's like who are?

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
This is a different bar than Pedro Pascal was in.
Yeah, because it looks verysimilar.
No, no, they do like thesimilar shots of him peeking
around the booth and I was justlike I don't understand why
we're doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
Maybe it's just a callback to that bar.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
Who are you?
He says.
They say Democrats, democrats.
That's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
Which, if this was a little bit more politically
leaning, would have been a funnyjoke.
In this movie it just kind offalls flat because it's like, oh
right, we're also talking abouta little bit of politics, but
not really.
He takes the case.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
And the head and leaves they party or no, we're
going to party and they're likenot tonight.
And then they go outside andthere's Suki.
Wait what happens?
I don't know what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
Suki confronts them, and then they're arguing in the
street and then Matt Damon triesto kill them.
Matt Damon tries to kill them,which doesn't make any sense to
me, dan, and let me explain toyou why.
In the beginning of the movie,pedro Pascal not killed by Matt
Damon he clearly has people thathe has hired to kill Pedro

(01:32:35):
Pascal.
Why would he then try to killthem himself?
Why wouldn't he just hire thosepeople again to kill the girls?
Because they all got killed.
I didn't see them get killed,did I?

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
that waiter never comes back oh yeah, you hire all
the waiters and people.
I don't know, it's just I don'tknow either it doesn't make any
sense.
So basically his whole thingfalls apart.
The dog is involved, alice.
The dog goes for the head and,yeah, he gets thwarted because
just because of the movie andnobody's, nobody's excited or

(01:33:10):
nobody does anything shoots himor something in the shoulder or
something because she has a gunin the dog carrier or something.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
It's the most anticlimactic ending to a movie,
maybe of all time you couldliterally say it's anticlimactic
.
Yeah, it's literallyanticlimactic it's nothing, it
just kind of happens.
And then we just move on to thenext scene and like, okay, the
movie's over, we have a news wecut to the newspaper, senator's
life falls apart.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
You're like, well, that's there's that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
There you go, that's it.
That's the movie.
Thank you, everybody.
They say we get to keep.
They get to keep the carbecause you know who You're like
.
Well, there's that.
There you go.
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
That's the movie.
Thank you everybody.
They say they get to keep thecar because you know, who knows
what's going on.
Right, and we find out thatJamie has cast two of the
penises for each of them, sothey both have one of the
penises.
And then here comes Aunt Alice,who's somebody's aunt.
They drive away.
Marion's aunt it's somebody'saunt, they drive away.

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
Marion's aunt.
It's Marion's aunt, marion'sconservative aunt.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
Three people sit in the front of a car, a thing that
always drives me crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense at all.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
And then they're like we're going to Massachusetts
where women can get married, andshe says, well, that's an
innovation.
And they drive away and they'veleft the penises behind, right,
yep, yep, they left the penisesbehind.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
They've forgotten the penises, the bellhop runs out
with the bag and is like ladiesand then looks into it and then
has a weird look on his face andI have no idea what that look
is.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
And they change the back of the car to say love is a
sleigh ride, here goes.
And as they drive away, theydrive under a bridge.
And then the drive away dolls,the dolls disappears and it says
drive away dykes.
Yeah, yeah.
In some ways this was the mostoffensive thing in the entire
movie.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
I mean again, not being a lesbian myself.
Maybe it's not, maybe it'sfunny, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
No again, not being a lesbian myself.
Maybe it's not, Maybe it'sfunny, I don't know.
No, no, no, it's offensive tome because the name of your
movie is Drive Away Dykes.
That is the movie you havewritten.
You have bowed to whateverpressures in your brain or
whatever, and changed it.
And then you tell us at the endof your movie that you wanted to

(01:35:27):
be called driveaway dykes, butbecause you wanted more box
office or less this or less,that, that you've changed the
title of your movie, whichostensibly is as important as
anything in a movie, right?

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
A hundred percent.
It's interesting that that'sthe part that offends you.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
Here's the part that offends me.

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
Is that suddenly they're getting married?
Oh God, whatever.
How did we get here, dan?
Where is the journey?
I missed this whole journey.
When did they even fall in love?
They never fell in love, neverdid.
Dude, I am baffled, I am angryand I am upset.

(01:36:07):
This makes no sense.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
Jamie learned to love this person that she just spent
some time with.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
Because she's never spent time with a person.
When did she do that?

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
She's never spent time with a person.

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
Oh, I see what it is.
She's just never Not with thesame person, because that person
finally made her feel guiltyfor her promiscuous ways.
Yeah, I don't know, man, Idon't know, this is a bad movie.
It's a very bad movie.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
And, like we said, how much time did we spend
speculating on whether they gotthe culture right?

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
Almost zero, maybe one or two little things where
you're like, I mean, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
Because it has nothing to do with why this
movie sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
No, Listen if you like it, that's great.
I'm glad for you.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
It's a comedy.
There's funny-ish things thathappen.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
Yeah, I laughed a couple of times, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:36:57):
And I mean that's the thing that makes it rough.
If you're saying that's thething that makes it rough is
like if you're, if you're saying, let's look at what's what's
happening in in cinema, thatsort of deals with these, with
characters like this, you'relike, and this is what you point
to and you go to this, you'relike it's a bit it's bad, that's
it.
That bumps you out, it bumps youout, you know, because there's

(01:37:19):
a million heterosexual moviesthat sort of deal with those
kind of issues and then you onlyget a few of these and for this
one to be such a swing and amiss, it's kind of sad, it's sad
.

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't have fun.
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
Oh, tony, we did it, we got controversial.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
Yeah, I don't want to watch Coen movies.
I just don't.

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
I don't enjoy it.
Well, you're going to have towatch another one in about six
months.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
I don't want to, I don't want to watch it.
What is it, honey, don't, honey, don't.

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
It might be really good.
I expect everyone's going to belike they figured it out.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
We watched the trailer last night looks
terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:37:58):
It does look terrible , right, that trailer looked so
bad.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
Trailer looked really bad.
At least she's not doing thisaccent anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
So that's something, they learned something.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
I won't want to reach through and strangle her and
tell her to stop it Tony, tellus about something you liked
this week.
We are a little late to thegame on this, but we started the
Apple TV series Bad Monkey.
The Carl Heisen novel turnedinto a new TV show with Vince
Vaughn.
It's great.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
I hear you saying a lot of words.
I don't know any of it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
It's called Bad Monkey.

Speaker 1 (01:38:31):
It stars.

Speaker 2 (01:38:32):
Vince Vaughn.
It's like a detective murdermystery type show.

Speaker 1 (01:38:36):
I like detectives, he's very good in it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
It's fun.
We're having a great time.

Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
Are you watching the nonas too?
I don't know, that's his,that's his like sitcom-y kind of
thing, that's.
Oh, that's the baking one withthe answered, or the grandmas or
something.
Uh, no, we have not startedthat, but I I'm interested I'll
watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
It's been number one on the network netflix charts
for, so the problem is we, everytime we're not watching a movie
on Netflix, we cancel it, damn.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
So the only time we have Netflix is if you make me
get Netflix to watch one ofthese movies.

Speaker 1 (01:39:09):
I watched on Netflix.
There you go, Documentary shortthe quilters.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 (01:39:17):
Is it about people that quilt 10 times better?
I mean different and better.
It's about a program in aprison where these guys make
quilts for foster kids.
Jesus, of course, it's likehalf an hour, just like you know
, when you see a gooddocumentary, you're, like you

(01:39:39):
know, wow, talking aboutsomething real you know powerful
moving stuff, you know they getthe.
At the end they get, like the,you know, the card with the
photo.
They spend a little time, theydo a little video of the kids
getting the quilts and you'rejust like, oh man, oh jesus and
that's why you see a movie likethis and you're like this is how
, this is how you spend yourtime you know sure copy and

(01:40:01):
stuff.
You've already done two killersout to do a thing, but worse oh
, you don't even improve.

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
It's not like oh you know what, we kind of got it
wrong last time.
I'd like to improve upon it.
It's not that it's just likewell, it worked last time, let's
just kind of do the same thing,just throw it in there.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
It's not like rebel moon one and rebel moon two, or
what was that called?
Was it rebel moon?
What was that?

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
called outlaw.
I don't even remember at thispoint.

Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
Yeah you know they're making great film.
You know they're making more is.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
I thought that they decided not to is.
Are they still making more?

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
I just think I saw something a couple weeks ago
that said they were making morehave you ever, have you ever
gone?

Speaker 2 (01:40:37):
you just keep doing, you buddy, I've just gone and
tried to listen to the podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
You should try and listen to the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
I haven't you think so.

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
No, I listen to it.
It's so terrible.
It's not like really sexual too.

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
Oh see, now I'm back in.

Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
You hooked me you might really dig it, tony, you
might.
Oh, zack Snyder, what aboutthat new Superman trailer?

Speaker 2 (01:41:03):
I don't know.
I have thoughts.
I have thoughts.
You loved it.
I'm concerned.
What are you concerned?

Speaker 1 (01:41:08):
about it looks great.
Does it look great?
Yeah, of course it looks great.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
Fillion looks great.
As Guy Gardner, I think I'mreally going to enjoy that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
He's going to be so funny.
I think I'm going to enjoy that, that there's not enough of
that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
My concerns come from how petulant and childish clark
is during the interview portion.
He's super I understand.
I understand that it's justhe's so like, why he's like
people were gonna die.
I saved them.
You should thank me.

(01:41:43):
I just like oh, that's not veryClark like, but you know, we'll
see how this character develops.
Basically Also my other concernit's almost the exact same
storyline as Batman v Superman,don't you think?
Just a little bit?
Do you remember that movie?

Speaker 1 (01:41:59):
Oh, that's the thing where they like drop the alien
weapon down like a well thinkingthat's solving the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:42:04):
That stupid movie Okay sure that's the end of the
let's go.
We got to go backwards.
It's more the beginning of themovie.
It's the catalyst of the story,which is Superman goes into a
foreign country to save Lois'life and either beats people up
or kills people.
I'm not really sure he beatspeople up or kills people.
I'm not really sure he beatspeople up in another country and
basically the government islike well, he can't act
unilaterally, we have to havesome confines on him.

(01:42:27):
So they have like the peopleturn on him a little bit and
they have like a big what's acourt meeting called?
What's that called?

Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
Court meeting.
Yeah, the court of King Arthurassembles.
Yes, that's what happens,Whatever the trial or something.
Oh, you mean what happens in acourtroom?
It's called a trial.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
Yes, Tony, that's what you call it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:47):
They put Superman on trial in that movie.

Speaker 2 (01:42:50):
I don't know if it's like trial or like some sort of
it's kind of like what they doto Iron man in Iron man.
What they do to Robert DowneyJr where he has to like talk to
the government.
I don't listen, I don'tremember everything, but
basically it's the samestoryline.

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
They question him, they bring him in.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
Yes, yeah, they bring him in for a hearing and then
you know, and then Lex boobytraps it and kills everybody and
they blame Superman.
Anyhow, it's darker, but it's avery similar storyline, where
he goes and stops a war and thenthe government is like, well,
you shouldn't do that, and thepeople are like you shouldn't do
that, and then they kind ofturn on him and then he has to
regain their trust.
That's.
It looks exactly like what he'sdoing in the trailer.

(01:43:26):
It's, it's the same story.
It's.
Everyone hated zack snyder's, Idon't know, because sex is
terrible and they sure theythrew the weapon down a well,
and then the the whole end ofthe movie was trying to retrieve
the weapon from a.
well Listen, I know what happensat the end of the movie.
I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
I got to that point I was just like are you kidding
me?
I better throw this down a well.
No one will ever find it downthere because it's in a well.
Everybody knows the thing in awell can't be found.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
Look at Never mind, that's going to be dark.
Listen, I understand that it'snot a perfect film.
Trust me, I get it.
I'm just saying they just threwsomebody's body down.

Speaker 1 (01:44:07):
a well what?

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
was that you threw someone's body down a well.
Well, that was in the past, Dan.
You shouldn't be admitting thaton the podcast we were watching
some TV show or something.

Speaker 1 (01:44:17):
They killed somebody, they threw it down the well and
I was like man.

Speaker 2 (01:44:19):
they probably shouldn't do that that's a bad
plan.
That's not going to work.

Speaker 1 (01:44:25):
That's not going to spoil the well for generations.
I don't know that's a bad idea.

Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
Yes, the answer to that is yeah, you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:44:31):
That water is undrinkable.
You have to be able to use thatwell.

Speaker 2 (01:44:35):
Yeah, you can't, you can't use it.
You, you're going to die Rottenorange today.
Oh no, a regular orange.

Speaker 1 (01:44:43):
Did you eat it?
It was a raspberry orange.
Yeah, of course I ate it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
What the hell is a raspberry orange?
I've never heard of that before.
Is it a crossbreed between araspberry and an orange?
Does it come?
Small and bubbly like araspberry, but orange colored?

Speaker 1 (01:44:57):
What's going on over here?
Oh, they had them at the store.
Straight up, jokes, raspberryoranges.

Speaker 2 (01:45:02):
I think that they knew all of them were bad, so
they're just like I don't know,call it something different.
It's a raspberry orange.
So when they open it and it'sall red and moldy, they're like
ah, it's probably still good.

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
Okay, so what are we doing next week?

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
Yeah well, I haven't even talked about it yet.

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
We better do that, because you got to get to work
very soon.

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
Yeah, we'll do it quick because it's a movie we've
been waiting for for a longtime.
It's the biggest movie of theyear.
Minecraft is now on video ondemand.
We're going to buy it.
We're going to watch it nextweek.
We're going to make fun of it.
It's going to be great.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
I'm intrigued because I don't know anything about.
Minecraft Never played.

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
You know probably a little more than I do I.
I have put a lot of hours intomine so that'll be perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
You'll be the, the noob and the dube.
Is that a good thing?
I don't know.
I do doesn't sound positive.
Pube the dube yeah, don't usethe pube that was my, oh, no, my
little, the noob and the cube.

Speaker 2 (01:46:02):
Oh, the kid See, now let's, we'll cut out the other
two.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
The poobie, poobie, poobie, poobie, poobie, poobie,
poobie, poobie, poobie, poobie,poobie.
Okay, yeah, that'll work.
Because the review I had withthe guys watched it just till it
got to the point where theywent to Minecraft Land and they
were like it was interesting.
They said that part was good.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
Okay, that doesn't feel like it's very far into the
movie though.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
You know, it's the Whatchamacallit guys.
It's what's his name, the.

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
Napoleon Dynamite guy .
Yeah, yeah, and that movie hateit I love that movie.
And that movie hate it.
Hate that movie with a fierypassion Love everything about
that movie you would, you would,I'd say that movie didn't stick
to its tone.
No, you can't, and that's yougotta respect.
Even if you don't enjoy it, youhave to respect them for going
for it and I do.

(01:46:57):
There it is.
I do, but I just won't watchthe movie again.

Speaker 1 (01:46:59):
It's just not for you .
You know what I mean.
It's not for you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:01):
Yeah, that's the thing Not for me on any level
but good for you for making amovie that stays true to itself.
True to be kind.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
Okay, so we're calling it, we'll be back next
week.
Like, subscribe, leave acomment and we'll be talking
about United States next week.

Speaker 2 (01:47:19):
You better believe it , baby.

Speaker 1 (01:47:20):
Minecraft won.

Speaker 2 (01:47:21):
Minecraft Bye-bye, Bye everybody.

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