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We go back to one of our earlier episodes as Tony was out sick this week!


A teenage martial arts star with a perfect body and an expressionless face attempts to become the next Jason Bourne? What could possibly go wrong? 

Taylor Lautner's post-Twilight action vehicle "Abduction" takes us on a wild ride through one of the most illogical spy thrillers ever made. When high school student Nathan discovers his childhood photo on a missing persons website, he's thrust into a world of government conspiracies, international assassins, and badly choreographed fight scenes that somehow manage to be both frantic and boring.

The film desperately wants to position Lautner as a legitimate action star, but saddles him with a character supposedly suffering from "rage issues" that never materialize. Despite being surrounded by seasoned actors like Sigourney Weaver, Alfred Molina, and Jason Isaacs, the Twilight heartthrob delivers most of his lines with the emotional range of a cardboard cutout. His parkour skills and shirtless scenes can't compensate for a script filled with nonsensical plot developments and technology that would make even the most forgiving sci-fi fan roll their eyes.

Most puzzling is the film's title - nobody actually gets abducted. Instead, we're treated to a collection of spy movie clichés stitched together with teenage romance that feels awkward and forced. From magical phones that can't be traced (except when they suddenly can) to an international network of assassins who can appear anywhere in minutes, "Abduction" breaks every rule of logic while following every rule of bad filmmaking. Join us as we break down this spectacular misfire that tried to launch a franchise and instead became a cautionary tale about what happens when marketing executives decide someone's abs qualify them to carry an action thriller.


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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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is.
It's not a good cut.
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
If you're no t-shirts .
Gildan is like what are thecheapest shirts?
We can buy the scratchiest,garbagiest standard shirts that
exist, Since we're showing offshirts.
Dan, I saw you got your rip-off.
I got my rip-off.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
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soft af dude that's what I sayto myself every day.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
I should order more wait that was actually in the
wwe store.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Hate Watching with Dan and Tony.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
It's Hate Watching yeah, welcome to Hate Watching
with Dan and Tony.
I'm Dan, I'm Tony, and thisweek we're doing the 2011,.
What's his name?
Taylor Lautner?

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Star Vehicle Abduction from Lionsgate Hour
and 45 minutes, and it's a quickhour 45.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
It zooms by.
I mean, it wasn't painful itmoved, it moved.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
That's my one positive is it moved?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
I mean John Singleton was the director and he did
direction.
I mean it wasn't you know.
I mean the action sequenceswere pretty good and oh really,
you thought you liked them.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
That was one of my biggest complaints is I did not
feel like they were cohesive.
I felt that they were veryjumpy it was.
I felt like it was trying to bea Bourne action scene, but
without the actual deafness todo it.
He just couldn't figure out howthey did it correctly because
it felt sluggish, but they werestill quick cuts where I

(02:13):
couldn't tell what the actionwas, but then they'd hang on.
I don't know the pacing feltoff.
I did not enjoy the two actionscenes that we got in the action
movie.
They said there were more thantwo only if you're counting him
running in a straight line forextended amount of time that end

(02:36):
chasing is abysmal, my favorite.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
I mean we're just jumping ahead, that's fine.
It's like at the very end scene, you know he's like the bad guy
and him are both in thebaseball stadium and then he's
like gotten away from the badguy and he's hiding behind a
pillar and his dad's on thephone with him.
He's like you're, you'll neverget out of there alive and I'm
like he will definitely get outof there.
I mean you could just likethere's like a million, you

(03:05):
can't find someone he's, he'sfine.
Just walk out the exit, you'refine anyone that's been to a
real sports stadium.
They're.
They're like 10 city blocks.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Buy one of the hats buy a dodge, is it la?
Buy a dodgers hat and just walkout.
It's not la.
Is itA, is it?
It was the Pirates?
Ah, pittsburgh, it's Pittsburgh.
See, I know baseball, I'm abaseball fanatic.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
But you kind of you know, I mean, this is one of
those movies where they work ashard as possible to keep the two
main characters connected toeach other and going somewhere
and doing something, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
We start out with hard driving music, which Tony
loved.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Dan, this is my first note.
Ready it goes.
Oh my God, this opening songrocks.
This movie is going to be dope.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
And it kind of sets you up.
You're like, okay, this is fun,this is going to be a
hard-driving movie, Things aregoing to go happen and Taylor
Lautner's on the front of thepickup truck like doing his own
stunts and I'm out, I'mimmediately out.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Listen, Dan that is so dangerous.
The intro to this film isexactly why I don't want to have
kids.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Oh, my stars and garters, what might happen to
Taylor and that beautiful face?
Oh my God, he might, he couldbe my job.
So wait, you project yourselfas his parents.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yes, I did, because I am that age now and I just
thought to myself if my kid isriding on the hood of a fricking
truck down a road, I'm going toground him for life.
He will never leave his bedroomUnbelievable.
That is so dangerous and he'sfine.
What I thought was going tohappen was they were going to

(04:59):
crash.
I thought for sure they weregoing to crash and his friends
were going to die.
But guess what?
They're all fine.
This is a terrible moral lessonfor the kids of the world.
You can ride on cars.
It's fine, idiots.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
So they're going to a party and they show up at the
party Underage drinking anotherbad moral of the film.
Good God, Tony.
When did you become like oldman?
Whatever the fuck.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
When I turned age 35, 35, it all changed yeah, hey,
ladies, we're here and ready toparty.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Dude, you're crazy.
Let's do this check it out.
Those are amongst the veryfirst lines of the movie.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
It's the dialogue in this movie is so bad.
It's what's not bad, it's justso basic.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yes, it's very basic.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
There's no real human dialogue in almost the whole
film.
It's just kind of characterssaying character-y lines.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
But you're right, no, they're actors saying lines,
they're not characters sayingcharacters.
There's nothing and it's a poolparty.
There's some hot girls fighting.
Oh yeah, someone says, that'sswag, which I was.
Like that's swag.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Was that a cool thing to say?
I wasn't cool in 2011.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
And you know so they're hanging out, and, and
and we you know so, so they'rethey're hanging out, and that we
get the two plot points thatare going to be paid off later,
right here at the beginning.
Yes, great, great job,foreshadowing Like his buddy
makes fake IDs and his buddy hasaccess to the Pirates baseball
team via tickets, which is greatthat they brought that back?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
I have no idea.
Yeah, I don't know how he hasthem really.
No, and I'm not sure whythey're not traced it.
I mean, it doesn't reallymatter for the ending, but I was
kind of.
I was kind of like sure, butaren't those his dad's tickets,
which is his best friend?
So really you'd be able to knowwhere he's going before he goes
there, right?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
I don't know.
You mean the.
You mean the bad guys wouldhave known about the tickets.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
I think the good guys should have known about the
tickets.
You don't think so?

Speaker 2 (07:11):
You mean the FBI or the bad guys?

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, I guess good is relative in all of the people,
but I mean the CIA, right,that's Doc Ock.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, were they CIA or FBI?
I think they're FBI becauseCIAbi, because cia operates
outside of the country, fbioperates inside of the country
could have sworn.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
He said cia.
You know what?

Speaker 2 (07:30):
I'm sure you're right he could have said cia.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
It should have been fbi, because that doesn't make
any sense I don't know nothingunless the, unless the pirates
are overseas and we did notrealize that it was like not
major league baseball, it's,it's the double a's, triple a's.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
So we, we, we set up that that he, this friend, has
this access, which is basicallywe're to learn unlimited access
to the pirates unbelievable, socool so uh, we're, we're burning
through this.
He gets drunk and passes out onthe lawn.
Well hold on.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
I have a question.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Oh wait we did do the girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
We did not do the girlfriend, and that sets up the
other plot point.
Well, kind of not really.
That he has anger issues, Iguess.
But are they cool, him and thegirl?
I can't tell no, no.
Him and his friends, are theycool kids or are they girl?
I can't tell no, no, no.
Him and his friends, are theycool kids or are they outsiders?
I honestly couldn't tell.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Well, what happens is ?
He's sort of standing there?
And then this other guy, thissuper hot, not super hot this
high school attractive girl,walks by and he's all making
googly eyes and we know that.
We find out that they have apast of some sort.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
By the way, real quick on the googly eyes, his
smolder, not very good.
He looks like he's just kind ofclosing his eyes, like that's
his brooding, like he's justlike it's very good, it's very
good.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
So her boyfriend, who's this sort of Weasley
blonde guy, bumps into taylornathan and sort of goes and he's
like I'm ready to go bro, itwas.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
It's one of my favorite lines of the movie.
He goes watch it and thennathan goes watch what he's like
.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, you get him dude, burn, hot, burn, hot, burn
showing.
Oh man, I, I you know I couldhave been there.
So they don't fight, becausethe girlfriend whispers in her
boyfriend's ear.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, it's like a 10-second whisper she stops him
from fighting.
I assume she's like, hey, he'sgot rage issues, don't do that.
But we don't get to know that.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yes.
For a guy with rage issues,never it like he's so controlled
you could be punching him inthe face and his rage issues
like he's like there they'recoming.
You better watch out rageissues.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
It's boiling, it's boiling, don't worry, don't
don't push me, um.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
So yeah, so we meet the girl and we find out they
have some sort of history.
So so, tony, what if you werewriting the log line of this
movie, which is your one or twolines that like are that you
give to a producer to say thisis what this movie's about?
What do you say this movie'sabout?

Speaker 1 (10:22):
I would say I mean, I know what's it called when you
combine two movies for the pitch, what's that?
That's not the log line,obviously, but oh, I don't know.
I mean the pitch is jasonbourne meets team romance.
I mean that's my pitch for themovie but as a log line I would
say, nathan finds out that hewas sort of adopted and his past

(10:48):
comes back to haunt him likethat.
I guess it's not really hispast, though it's like his dad's
.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, I don't know his dad's past and general
current things that his dad aredoing his dad's present.
He general current things, thathis dad is present, his dad's
present, he gets drawn into aweb whereby certain people are
going to try to exploit him toget someone else to do something

(11:17):
or get something that they want.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
So it's just, I'll buy that in the room that they
want Hot dog.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
I'll buy that in the room Ka-ching.
What this movie suffers from isTaylor Lautner was they think
Taylor Lautner might be a hugemovie star.
So what they decided to do wasmake this movie and put a fair
amount of money and put a fairamount of stars and put some

(11:44):
action into it to see if he canbe a star.
Right, that's what I think.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Oh, 100%.
This is absolutely a test.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
This was his testing ground and he got a D, sadly.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
So yes, first of all he was not good at all.
I can't remember the jokeexactly, but I leaned over to my
wife at one point and I waslike he makes a better robot
than Randy Quaid did in PlutoNash, because he's got one note
the whole time.
For a dude with rage issueshe's very monotone, like his

(12:21):
rage is definitely beneath thethe surface and he cannot emote.
But the movie itself was notgood.
The script wasn't very good, soyou kind of set him up to fail.
I feel bad for him a little bit.
I don't think it's entirely hisfault that this movie didn't
work out, but it made a lot ofmoney.
It made like $80 million.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yes, but I'm sure it made the wrong money.
I could bet you it made a lotof money.
It made like 80 million, yes,but it made it made.
I'm sure it made the wrongmoney.
I, I could bet you it made justthe wrong money.
You know, just like love gurumade some money, but it made the
wrong money.
It didn't make the money.
The way it was supposed to makemoney.
That was to prove.
The point of concept was thathe can be a star and and and I

(13:03):
and the thing is is this is madethrough his production company,
you know which is oh, oh yeahdo that research.
Okay, I mean yes, and that whenI did a little more research
he's a hard guy to researchbecause nothing kind of happened
after this movie.
He's had two sort of tv showthings, one of them in england,
which cannot be good, um, but itsaid a series of of things fell

(13:28):
apart that he was working onthrough his production company
and so you could totally tell hecame off twilight hot.
They're like okay, yourproduction company set up the
offices, meetings, meetings,meetings, everybody's like we
want to work with you, we wantto work with you, we want to
work with you.
Then this movie comes out andit does a flat line, and in this
world a flat line means afailure.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
You see, and this is where I think it's his agent's
fault, because if I've learnedanything from Entourage, you
always, always book your nextgig before your last movie comes
out, so nobody knows how trashit is.
That's Agent 101 in Hollywood.
Always be ahead of the game,guys.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
But I think the whole thing is they're trying to
sculpt his career and the truthof the matter is you don't
sculpt the career.
You say yes to anything you canand you just keep making stuff,
because nobody expectedtwilight to do a billion dollars
except for you, dan, becauseit's your favorite movie of all
time.
It's freaking dreamy, um.

(14:34):
So I think, and that's why inthis movie he's not a character,
because they don't want to givehim rage issues, they don't
want to sure say that he has analcohol problem because he was.
You know he lost his mom andhas all these bad dreams and
inside you know he has all theseproblems, but they're not
manifest in the characterbecause they want him to be this

(14:55):
squeaky clean guy that girlscan love, as opposed to like
this effed up guy that the girlslove even more because they
love damaged men, and I don'tmean that want to fix it.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
They love damaged men and I don't mean that in a bad
way.
My wife loves damaged men.
That's why I'm married.
I don't know If that's the case.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
I understand everything you're saying, but if
that's the case, write thatmovie.
Was that a joke, Tony?

Speaker 1 (15:19):
No, that's serious.
I have severe issues guys.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Big time Rage issues.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
I got rage issues if you can't tell.
Actually, you probably can tellif you listen to this podcast.
I do have rage issues.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
So I wrote here squanch face.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
What Can you emote that for me?

Speaker 2 (15:39):
He makes his face.
It's kind of a squanch faceface and it's very unattractive,
so does his dad pick him up atthe party.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yes.
So his dad picks him up thenext day.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, next day, because he wakes up and finally.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
I waited five minutes to get Taylor Lautner shirtless
.
It finally happens at the 4.30mark.
I thought it was never going tohappen.
I was waiting and waiting andit was worth it.
Man, that guy is cut up Goodfor him.
Dedication.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
So his dad picks him up, takes him home.
It's Jason Isaacs, his mom'sMaria Bello, and then his dad
immediately starts beating thecrap out of him with boxing
gloves.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
So this is something that I'd like to talk to you
about this scene and how youfeel about it, because the wife
and I got in an argument over it.
Of course I am.
I am on the dad's side in thisscene.
How did I want to hear how youfelt about the situation?

Speaker 2 (16:43):
How I felt is they were just playing him one level
of dick too high.
He was just such a dick andyou're just like if they had
toned the dick down a little bit, you know, and just made it.
And this is the problem withthe whole movie is we find out
that these aren't really hisparents and that his dad is like

(17:05):
this super spy.
The problem is they haven'tdecided where, where, where,
they're going to trick us, right, the whole idea of these kind
of movies is to keep us in somelevel of suspense, but that
never happens.
We we realize instantaneouslythese aren't his parents, but
never once do we think thatthese aren't his parents.

(17:27):
And they have it in for him.
Yeah, that they're using him.
We always know that all they dois care about him.
Yeah, and the whole idea of youhaving no identity because
you're not with your realparents is you have to become
untethered from what you believe.
He says it a few times, sort of, but he never.

(17:47):
He never becomes untetheredwhere he's like I don't know
where I stand in the world.
He always really knows where hestands in the world throughout
this entire movie.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
I mean this kid, for you know, again, rage issues.
He's pretty calm and collectedfor all of this craziness that's
happening to him.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
And and and.
So Jason Isaacs, you know,punches him and says you got to
get.
You know, you got to do betterbecause life.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
So I did not find him to be a dick.
I was like good for you dadteaching the hard lessons, and
the kid was just being a littlewimp about it.
I mean, he brought out a karatekick at one point.
You guys, you're boxing, don'tbreak the rules because you're
losing.
Jeez.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Did your dad like keep you in a box?
You know Tony's been bad.
He's put him in the box.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
There was one hole in the box and instead of a
breathe hole it was for thezapper.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
I don't know if you're kidding of course I'm
kidding, I don't know.
You know, I thought you thinkthat's how a kid should be
brought up?
You know extra whip, you know Idon't know if it's how you
should be, brought up.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
But I'm just saying, uh, at least he was wearing
gloves right.
It was in at least the facadethat they were practicing
sparring, so that's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
So he didn't put on like the gloves with the metal
spikes.
Yeah, you're going to feel thistime Jesus, not like gladiator,
where he's got like the, theyeah and the the pokey, the
pokey fork.
So then I wrote the parentslove each other.
I guess there was somethinglike where we see that jason
isaacs and maria bello love eachother for sure.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
There's a scene in the kitchen where they're kind
of flirting and I guess I wouldhave liked to known just like a
little bit more about thembefore we just kill them off,
Because I was confused.
Were they a couple before?
Did they get assigned thismission because they were
already a couple and they'relike you'll be great as parents

(20:00):
Maybe here have a kid.
Did they fall in love whilethey were on the job?
Because I like that angle aswell.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
I just would have liked a that would have involved
writing two or three linesabout them.
So then we meet SigourneyWeaver.
She's his shrink.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Because of the rage issues.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
And he feels like a stranger in my own life.
He has insomnia and rage issuesand she says that he should
just put the anger away.
Basically, she's like don'tworry about it.
And then he talks about thedream, which, of course, we all
know is real Because they stageit exactly as it's real.
We're going to find out thatthe big bad guy at the end
killed his mom while he watchedfrom under a bed Because somehow

(20:43):
, you know, somehow closure,yeah.
Then I wrote motorcycle slashband montage.
I don't know, is he?
in a band.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
No, I don't remember that, but he drives his
motorcycle a lot but he lookspretty good on it.
He's no Tom Cruise on amotorcycle, but still I'd buy it
.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Then we see wrestling and we show that he's a great
wrestler, did we?
I strongly disagree that he's agreat wrestler Did we?

Speaker 1 (21:16):
I strongly disagree that that's what we showed.
I would have liked him to do acool move.
All he did was hip toss hisopponent.
That's like wrestling 101.
His opponent was a terriblewrestler.
What is going on?
The person that wrote thatscene obviously didn't wrestle.
I mean, they grapple for whateight seconds and then he hip

(21:37):
tosses him and pins him.
Come on, you guys, that's BushLeague wrestling.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
So then we have this sort of extended weird scene
with the sociology teacher wholike sets up.
I mean, wasn't that there waslike this whole sort of weird
thing where he's like talkingand talking and talking.
Where they have to, they haveto set up with partners and he
of course magically getspartnered with the girl across
the street.
What?

Speaker 1 (22:02):
was the assignment dan do it?
Write a paper about sociologyright, that's kind of what I got
too.
It's just like a generalsociology for a scene that lasts
three minutes of him talkingnonsense.
He never explains theassignment.
That then cat, is the catalystfor the whole movie Pretty much

(22:23):
as they're doing the research.
I was like what is theassignment?
Your, your research doesn'tmake any sense.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
So he, so he gets, so they sit home.
And then she's coming over andhe spies her out the window and
he's like, oh my.
And then she's coming over andhe spies her out the window and
he's like, oh my God, she'scoming and he freaks out and
he's throwing his underweararound and trying to clean his
room.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
A great moment for comedy, but they just missed it.
They didn't do it.
I don't know what happened, butthat should have been like a
fun, a little fun like oh he's,he's a cute teenager.
Still, it was dumb.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
I hated it so she gets in there, she's in the room
and she's like looking aroundand she says a line like um,
when last time I was in here youhad bunk beds yeah, and then
she was also like you still likegames or something, so it's
trying to establish that she'sbeen in the room before, but
it's also weird.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
It's also weird Bunk beds yeah, by himself.
Why does he have bunk beds?

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Is there a dead twin that we don't know about?

Speaker 1 (23:27):
That's a great twist.
I love that that should happen.
But it's not.
It's just like a kid.
Maybe they wanted more, I don'tknow.
Again, I don't understand thebackstory.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
So they're working on the paper which they're looking
at.
Wait, hold on.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
You missed a very important part.
I'm all about the parenting inthis episode, Dan.
Oh, she comes in with cookiesor something Well as the mom's
leaving.
She asks door open or doorclosed.
No, mom, Door open, Always,he's 17 years old.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
He says door closed.
I know that's what he says.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
You should don't offer that.
What kind of parenting is that?
Would you like me to close thedoor so you guys can fornicate?
What are you talking about?
Not in my house, dan, door open.
Fornicate what are you talkingabout?
Not in my house, dan, door open.
And what does he say?
Well, he says door closed, buthe says it like a snot, which is
where I remove his door shecloses the door yeah, she 100,

(24:26):
she just does it.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
She's just like, hey, that's cool so this little teen
girl lives across the street.
I mean she looked kind ofmenaced when the door was shut,
right yeah, she's like pleasedon't lock me in here with this
creep.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
But the mom's like ah , it's fine, don't worry gotta
make baby skilled martial artist.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Oh, my god so they're doing their research on the
computer and then they like finda picture of a little kid and
then he's like, if there's likea button to push to age the kid,
yeah there's this website thatthey find has picked milk carton
kids and it somehow transformsthem into what they look like

(25:08):
today.
This algorithm is amazing, bythe way fantastic we're gonna
find all those kids and he'slike that's that, looks like me,
she's like that, looks like you, and he starts, he becomes
instantly inner conflictedthinking that's him.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yes, yeah, like, like , not even like huh there's not
a moment where he's like well, Imean, I have my parents, I'm
not on, this isn't me.
There's lots of kids thatprobably look like that, but no,
it's a meeting.
He's like oh shit, that tinykid that looks just like.
I remember myself looking inthe mirror.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
But before all that Dan.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
I just want to point out why, again, I don't like the
kids in this movie.
They're all jerks.
They spend two or three minutesmaking fun of these milk carton
kids.
Oh, really Did they?
Yes, they're like.
Oh, he looks like if this oneugly person met this homeless
person Like what you guys arethe worst.

(26:08):
You deserve to be on that list.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
So he's oh, he was grounded for being being drunk
all night so yes, and so why didI write evil guy in car?
Who's the evil guy?
Are they like watching him?

Speaker 1 (26:25):
yeah, someone's watching the house because this
is the night that they getattacked already oh, he calls
the number.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, he calls the number.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, he calls the number and says, oh yeah, he
calls the helpline.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
You know, I maybe have seen this kid.
Who is this kid?
And of course they instantlyget this information to the bad
guys, like instantaneously.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
So apparently, from what I understood, that's the
bad guy's website.
Yeah, so apparently, from whatI understood, the bad guy,
that's the bad guy's website.
The bad guy made an entire realwebsite with an incredible
algorithm that took many datascientists years to develop just
to catch this one kid.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
More importantly, later on in the movie they say
he did all sorts of things likethis.
There's not just one.
You get the feeling he's donehundreds, hundreds of different
things for how long, dan?

Speaker 1 (27:20):
because didn't the dad just steal the information
from the bad guy like howquickly did they implement?

Speaker 2 (27:26):
these things?
No, they implemented it wayback in the day just just for
years for years.
Yes, they've been trying totrack this kid down for years.
Yes, no, he.
He makes one slip at any pointand he's like you're, you're
gone.
You know, probably if he sendsin a 23 and me he dead oh yeah,

(27:49):
he's dead for sure, because theyprobably own 23 and me.
Um, so there's like an evil guyin the card.
Oh, I don't know what happens.
He spills to his mom, right.
So he tells his he he has allthe stuff laid out on the bed
and mom walks in and he's alllike this is me.

(28:12):
And she's like yep, yep, that'syou.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, she's very forthcoming with it.
I mean, I guess if you're facedwith all the evidence, you just
give up because you're a superspy and can't lie to save your
own life.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Somebody wants to be on TV?

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Oh, she's got the cone off Great, great news.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
So he spills to the mom and then the bad guys are
outside.
Because?
Because, as soon as the badguys find out, they're instantly
able to send more bad guysanywhere in the world.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Pittsburgh, the.
The infrastructure of this badguy network is so great.
They are so good at what theydo, Unlike the FBI or CIA,
whichever it is.
They are not nearly as good asthe bad guys.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
So this is the big, exciting scene where the bad
guys come in.
Two bad guys come in withsilencer guns.
They come in and then MariaBello fights them first and she
just you like that part.
She was kicking ass.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah, yeah, I'm like hell, yeah, ma Get it.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
So she's like banging them, banging them, stabbing
them with the things with thepruning shears right in the
shoulder, which somehow didnothing, they were totally fine.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
I felt like she spent four minutes beating the crap
out of them and then they werejust kind of like ah boy, good
thing Women can't hit Cause.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
I'm fine, right now Shake it off, and then he sees
it and with his rage issues heruns away.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
What this?
This kid should be in there andget his ass kicked and then the
dad has to come save him, andthen he runs away Reluctantly.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
That's what should have happened His first instinct
run away Just like a scaredlittle baby, like the little
bitch that he is.
So then, um then, jason Isaacs,who's in in the shop, in the
garage, grinding metal as you dogets a gun, runs out with the
gun, points the gun in front ofhim and what does he immediately

(30:26):
do?
Jumps over and engages in handto hand combat.
You are in charge with a gunand they just shot your fake
wife.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
You, you don't, you don't fight, you shoot first.
All right, shoot first.
Do the han solo shoot first.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Ask questions later you use your gun, so he starts,
you know they, we start fightingagain.
And then, uh, what's his name's?
Halfway down the street and hedecides, oh, maybe I, maybe I
should go back.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
So then he turns around For the girl, for the
neighbor girl.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Oh, because he realized the neighbor girl was
going to go over to his house atsome point.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I can't remember her name, but he says her name in
the street.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Not for his parents, karen, no, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Oh, I think that's right.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Maybe no one cares.
She's not a character, she's,she's a female prop that just
wanders through scenes.
So he runs back and then jasonisaacs gets killed.
And then the rage issues kickin.
Did they?
Yeah, because he then he throwsoh no, no, you're right, no, no

(31:32):
, jason Isaac tells him to run.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah, and then he yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he's still hiding rightuntil the dad dies.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
He's like run, and then he runs.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
And then he comes back for the girl who's being
held at gunpoint.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
And that girl.
This girl gets traumatized likemultiple times and is
unaffected by it.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
She watches them die.
She's at the door watchingpeople that she's grown up
living next door to get brutallymurdered and then she gets held
at gunpoint herself, and she'sfine kids are resilient dan and
the, the killer, who's, like youknow, cold-hearted killer.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
What does he do?
He like drops a line.
I'm not gonna make this taketoo long, or something yeah,
he's like don't worry, you won'teven feel it.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
It's like okay, just just kill her, you know how.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
That's how long it takes to kill somebody.
Don't need to do a comical line.
So nathan takes something, hethrows it at the dude and then
he's a shot glass, shot glass,and then he just rages on the
dude like he really rages on him, which is cool, which was nice.
And then they get like a pokerand he smacks him in the nuts, I
think, and he's, he's, he'sready to freaking, dismantle

(32:44):
this guy, which is what?
And we get to the best line inthe movie.
What's the best line in themovie?

Speaker 1 (32:51):
I have no idea.
I didn't write down any linesin this scene.
You mean the best?

Speaker 2 (32:54):
line in the movie.
I thought I already did.
Didn't write down any lines inthis scene.
You mean the best line in themovie?
I thought I already did thebest the best thing in the whole
movie there's a bomb in theoven oh, I have so many
questions on this, dan, so hegoes.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
what he says is nathan, I'm not gonna die here,
there's a bomb in the oven, okay, but but then he doesn't leave,
right, he does die there.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
We don't know.
I don't understand the line.
Did he put the?

Speaker 1 (33:20):
bomb there?
Why did he put the bomb?
Why is the bomb on such a shorttimer?
If he's in the house, that'sjust bad planning.
Give yourself time to get outand move along down the street
probably.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
You know how hard it is to have a bomb that's
attached to your phone, whereyou just push a button and the
bomb blows up.
But no, they've decided thatthey're going to go into this
house and at some point theyplant this bomb, which you never
see.
Them plant the bomb becausethey're constantly fighting with
people who are looking forNathan, and they put the bomb in
the oven with a timer.

(33:58):
But and then?
What does Nathan do?
Someone says to you there's abomb in the oven, do you?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
go to the oven.
Tony, one hundred percent.
I have to fact check.
Ok, dan, what if he's lying, Idon't know?
So I got to go there.
I got to look.
Okay, that looks like a bomb.
It's counting down for sure.
Okay, and then I'll casuallyclose the oven and then somehow
be transported in four secondsoutside by my own pool.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Well, so the bomb, they have seven seconds.
When he opens the oven he'slike oh, and then they both
start running and they get blowninto the pool under the water,
where they're safe, becausewater protects you from
everything.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yeah, it's fine, it's fine.
Doesn't make any sense, butit's fine.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
And then they motorcycle away.
Then we have this montage ofall the evil people in the world
, coming from every corner ofthe world, hundreds and hundreds
of guys getting on airplaneswith the most advanced machine
guns and everything to go toPittsburgh and like hang out in

(35:05):
a hotel, hang out in a hotel.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Well, as we learned from Stealth, they just like to
hang out together in buildingswith no innocent civilians.
So it's fine, Wait what is youmean?

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Like the Alaska thing ?
Is that what happened instealth?

Speaker 1 (35:20):
No, no, no.
When they were all the threeterrorists were meeting in a
building and it just happened tobe only filled with terrorists
and no good guys whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
So they're all ready.
You know, the evil Russian guyhas assembled his super crew,
and then Nathan is at the.
Why is he at the hospital?
Oh, because she got cut orsomething.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
She got hurt I don't remember seeing it, but on the
motorcycle.
He asks her how bad is it?
And she's like, oh, it hurts.
And then he's like let's go tothe hospital.
Is that how she talks?
Oh it hurts.
It hurts me.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
I'm hurting right now .
So of course he does yourclassic thing he picks up the
phone to call somebody and theFBI instantly is on the line and
instantly is talking to it.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Nathan, nathan.
So here's my thing aboutseveral moments in this movie.
They continually pick up theircell phones and just make a
phone call.
Yeah, and each time it's thegood slash bad guys.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
It's good guys and the bad guys.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
You guys never learn a lesson.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Everybody, the good guys and the bad guys, can tap
into any phone call.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
They can tap into any camera.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
They can assemble any information that they might
possibly need literally inseconds.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Except for when they reach out to their friend.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
And we're going to talk about the black friend
later, because that's my pitchfor this movie.
Okay, this movie should beabout him.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
What's his name?
Googly.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, his name is Googly.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
I'll find it.
I wrote a note about him.
Keep going.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
So somehow, oh, so he's talking to Alfred Molina,
frank, who's the head of the FBI, or whatever, and then somebody
says trust needs to be earned.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Taylor Lautner says it oh, okay, because the FBI CIA
is like Nathan, I need you totrust me.
He's like trust is earned andthen he's or no.
He just leaves it.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, doesn't even hang up His little girlfriend's
in all this peril, the realpeople that can ostensibly help
him.
He's like giving the blow offto yeah for sure, Like he's Mr
Outfitted to protect the world.
So somehow Sigourney Weaver hasfigured out that he's here.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Well, they all know he's there Dan.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
But how does Sigourney Weaver know he's there
?

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Because she is also a super spy.
They're all super spies.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
But she didn't have all this.
I mean, she doesn't have thetapping information.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Well, you, don't know , she's probably got her own
wire tap.
She's a third wire tap or she'stapping the bad guys.
Maybe she's a wire tap of awire tap.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
So she says something about oh, so she helped smuggle
them out of the place Withballoons yeah, which of course
makes no sense.
Why are you smuggling thisstupid girl out of there?
I mean, would they even knowthat he's affiliated with the
stupid girl?

Speaker 1 (38:22):
I don't think anyone that lived has seen her.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah, because only the two assassins would have
known she even exists.
Maybe that one assassin got outand said she's so he didn't die
there, so he was good to hisword.
He absolutely didn't die.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
I'm not going to die here, there's a bomb in the oven
, and then he scrambles away.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yeah, so he has told them that the girl is pivotal,
even though we don't even knowthat.
You know like somehow.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
She's very important to him.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
So Sigourney Weaver gets them into her vehicle and
they drive away and then shesays things like you were
looking for answers your wholelife and sort of, and then gives
him the next step in the in theplot progression.
Here's some keys, here's anaddress.
Go here and then jump out ofthe cars.
I go around this corner becauseshe knows there's like this

(39:17):
soft corner that they can jumpout and super spy man, super spy
.
She's run that route every dayfor 20 years, ready for this one
moment so she has driven off,and then she explodes in the
distance, so we don't know ifshe's alive or dead.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Except for you know, because they literally cut away.
So you know she's not in theexplosion.
It's not very misleading.
They should have.
They should have never.
I don't know, it doesn't matter, doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
So he's like they're going to track us, so we need to
get in the river, which theynever do.
Track them with dogs.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
No, of course not.
There's no dogs.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Dogs were too expensive for the budget.
So then she gets cold becauseshe weighs got to be like 82
pounds and she would totallylike in a Pittsburgh river in
the middle of the night shewould be a freaking popsicle and
I feel bad saying this, but hercold acting wasn't very good

(40:23):
and I was just.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
I was just like guys, just let her get cold, just let
her method act for like thefour seconds because or don't
show it one of the two, becauseit wasn't good she just kind of
did the the teeth chatter, theclassic.
Oh, I'm cold jesus, idiots.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
So um.
So he says something likesuddenly everyone is trying to
kill me or something, me and Ican't read my own writing, is
trying to drawing, yeah, drawingred.
Drawing red me, dying red metrying to read me, I don't know.
So the bad guys are like thebad guys and the good guys are

(41:00):
like track the girl, track hisfriends, track everyone.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
And, as they're saying, I love the cuts to the
people as they say their names,just in case we forgot who
they're talking about.
They're like track the friends.
Then we go to the friends,track this guy.
We go to the friends, trackthis guy, we go to that guy and
it's just like okay, this isweird.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
So they hitchhike to the safe house and they get
there and they unlock the door,which just there's no alarm or
anything, and then it's like anapartment.
Nathan starts tossing the wholeplace just like going through
everything uh, calculator, uh,rubber bands, uh, and what does
she?

Speaker 1 (41:39):
do dan her first move cosmetics no, she picks up her
phone and is like I'm gonna callmy dad that is not the first
thing she does oh, she goes tothe she goes to the bathroom and
like is like she has a toweland she's going like this with
the towel.
I don't remember that at all.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
I rewatched that part .
She went to the bathroom andmaybe she took a shower, which I
mean, if I was in a freakingriver you'd be disgusting.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
I mean the truck driver.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
That picked them up should have been like you guys
smell like you're freaking swamprats.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
I forgot to mention that one more time.
Terrible moral for the kidsDon't hitchhike.
Guys Don't hitchhike,especially with a trucker.
That's like super excited, likeyeah, come on in, he's a bad
guy, it's not going to end wellOkay.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
So Nathan tosses the place and he finds money, a gun,
so much money.
He finds this little cell phone.
I believe it was sitting out.
I couldn't tell if it was inthe bag or if it was sitting out
on top of something yeah, Idon't know.
And he opens it and he sees allthis coded information and

(42:49):
there's a little noise too,isn't there?
Yeah, for sure.
Just just to let you knowlittle noise too, isn't there?

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Yep for sure Just to let you know this is these are
digits processing right nowSomething's happening in this
phone, not normal phone stuff.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
This is the phone, this is the magic phone.
This is what's going to get youkilled.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
There's a lot of magic phones in this movie.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
The one thing, one of the few good things about this
movie, is they do not discountthe idea of the phone.
Yeah so, uh, I wrote down makethe idiot call.
She picks up the phone.
Makes the idiot call to heruncle because her uncle's gonna
be worried about her because herparents are like off on some
trip or something yeah, they'rein.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
What are they?
Paris, they're.
I think they're in europe orsomething.
I think all these people aresuper rich.
That's what I got out of it.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Everyone is super rich, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Yeah, must be rough, nathan.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Except the black kid who has to make money selling
fake IDs to rich white kids.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Does he though, because his dad has all access,
passes the pirates.
I think he's just a bad kid.
Dan, again, I think he's just abad kid Dan.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Again, I think they're bad.
These are just bad kids.
So he also finds a piece ofpaper that has a woman's name
and an address.
So they're like, ah, this isthe next thing we can do
together.
He doesn't cut loose with thegirl.
He doesn't like say you know,you go free.
Why don't you like hang out ata motel Because he's got 10K?

(44:15):
He doesn't like say take 10Kcash and go to a hotel and hole
up there until this is over.
No, you go with me because weneed extra Jeopardy.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Well, because he hasn't had a girlfriend his
entire life and he's finally gotlike a good situation that
might lead to something.
Girls in peril are alwaysvulnerable, Dan.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Jesus don't Spoken like a true stalker.
So he gets to the cemetery.
He finds his mother's grave andhe says I never knew either of
my mothers.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Hold up.
First of all, can we talk aboutthem fighting.
How long did it take them torealize they were in a gosh darn
cemetery because they'redriving?
And he's still looking, she'slike this is a weird address,
but in the window we're seeing amausoleum I mean you're already
in the cemetery?
Guys, how long does it take tofigure out that those, those

(45:08):
letters and numbers are afreaking plot number, you idiots
oh, was there a plot number was.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Was that part of the thing?

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Yeah, it was like G367, something, something.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
So they realized that and so they're like, okay,
we're out of clues, except likethe guy in Nebraska which we're
going to have to do the guy inNebraska next, which I didn't
quite understand, the Nebraskaguy.
And so this is Tony's favoritepart of the movie, where they
find the next clue.
How do they get to the nextclue, tony?

Speaker 1 (45:41):
I don't know.
Hold on, let me look at mynotes.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
I got nothing.
They go into the mortuary andthere's like the poor fat kid,
oh no, okay, I did write thisdown.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
This is my favorite part of the movie because it's
hilarious.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
This poor kid.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Is this an after school job for him?
Because he is a 15 year oldloser for sure.
I'm sorry that was me.
Wait a second Hold on.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
You were like they were on the site with their
little stolen kids.
And you were like they'remaking on the site with their
little stolen kids and you werelike they're making fun of those
poor kids.
And here's this poor littleportly boy who's working in a
mortuary and you're like burnhim down.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Well, there are two key differences between those.
Dan One those first kids wereabducted.
It was not their choice, okay,this kid just kind of let his
life go off the rails and herehe is at the working at the
cemetery, all right.
And number two they're kids,All right.
This is a 15-year-old guy.
Like he's already had to dealwith a lot of bullying, for sure

(46:48):
, the poor guy.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
That's why you're bullying him more.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
I just want to.
I'm piling on, I'm trying tostrengthen, I'm like the dad,
I'm just trying to strengthenhis character.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
All right.
Did they bully you in highschool, Tony, or in junior high?

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Well, no, yes, obviously for sure.
But the thing is, here's howyou fight that dad.
If you're in on the joke, theylose interest.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
So is that how you funnied him up?

Speaker 1 (47:16):
interest.
So is that how you got youfunnied them up?
Yeah, that's.
That's how the majority ofpeople in my situation get the
self deprecating humor that theyhave.
It's from you beat those peopleto the punch and making fun of
yourself, and then they respectyou and think you're funny.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Like, like, like.
Give me an example of this.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Well, so, like on buses in middle school, right,
people would make fun of you fortaking up too much space on the
seat, so then you'd have tomake fun of yourself.
So there would be days where Iwould like come and I'd sit on
the edge of the seat where I'mhanging off a little bit and I'd
be like man.
I wish there was more room inthese seats.
And everybody thinks it's funny.
You know they think it's.

(47:49):
Oh, this guy's funny, he getsit, this guy gets it.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
And then they're all friends with you.
Did you read the Reader'sDigest?
What?

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Reader's Digest.
Do you know what the Reader'sDigest is?
I mean, I've heard of theReader's Digest, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Oh, jesus, okay, so they have to.
They're going to go to Nebraskaby train.
I think is the plan.
Yeah, so they're going to takethe train to Nebraska.
So they need help, so they needfake IDs to buy tickets to the
train.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
I didn't know that.
Do you have to be 18 to buy atrain ticket?
I've never ridden on a train.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
You have to have an ID, I think, probably to buy a
train ticket.
Sure.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Okay, so it's not the age thing, it's just they're
using fake identities.
Got it?

Speaker 2 (48:37):
I believe so, because they're in the system and the
system leads everyone right tothem.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
So they know to do that, but they don't know to
make a call from their ownfreaking cell phones.
Come on.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
I got nothing.
So the black buddy shows up andhe has three fake IDs from
three different states.
How?

Speaker 1 (48:59):
do they get a hold of him, Dan?
How does he know where to meet?

Speaker 2 (49:02):
them.
They call him on the phone.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
How do they call him on the phone if the bad guys
have all the phones?
I don't understand.
I was so mad at this point.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
And that's my point.
Well, yeah, I didn't thinkabout the phones.
That's really terrible, but Ithought it would be because they
sort of say they give him likea sort of thing where he says
like a line about how he snuck Ihad to go out the back door so
they didn't see me becausethere's a guy sitting somewhere
so they're watching your house,but they're not.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
But you can just call them and tell them where you
are or email them.
More importantly, they're not,but you can just call them and
tell them where you are or emailthem.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
More importantly, they're not watching the house
very well.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
You know, because I have the back door.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
I'd had like drones up above, you know, and I have,
like you know, 17 people,because they have enough guys to
do anything.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
They have tons of guys, but all you need is one
guy at the front, one guy at theback.
He went out the back door.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
They only, they're only watching the front door so
they get on the train and Iguess he has the gun with him
now because they're reallyworried about getting searched.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Yeah, he got the gun from his dad's apartment, for
sure.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Yeah, but he never pocketed it, they never showed
him with the gun.
They just sort of imply that hehas the gun and so he's nervous
about getting on the train forthe gun mostly.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
But we're not sure.
Can I just say that if I wasthat security guard, I 100%
would have frisked him, becausehe was staring right at you
nervously.
He's like, oh my God, pleasedon't pick me, please don't pick
me, please don't pick me.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Oh, he didn't pick me .
What a great day.
So we get on the train and, um,we start to sort of litigate
their original relationship,which something?
Happened in summer, and thenthey made out of, they made out,
and then he sort of rejectedher and then boom they're doing
it.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Hold on.
His line was because theyhooked up in the summer and it's
just like when we got back toschool.
Why didn't you ask me out?
And he's like I don't know, Ijust thought summer was summer.
Yeah, I wrote that down.
What?
What does that even mean?

Speaker 2 (51:08):
I don't know.
Well, he explains it later.
What was going on with him?
That he was like emotionallynot ready or something.
I wasn't ready.
He says later nothing orsomething.
Oh no, that's the exact line.
Got it, got it, got it, that'sthe one.
And so then we have the bigmakeout scene and tony's gonna
talk about the makeout scene anddo his whole tony make out,

(51:30):
it's actually gonna be veryshort.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Passes the test.
I'll tell you that right now.
I was into it.
I was like Taylor look at thoselips, dude, good for you.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
This kid knows how to kiss, that girl knows how to
kiss.
These are two professionals.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Yeah, this is the first time we've watched one of
these movies where I was like,cool, good for you guys, I'm
into it.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
They got it on big time and they were going to have
major sex.
I mean this was going.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
I mean, dad, tony probably is like no condom, no
sex or something.
We did make that joke.
We're like I hope that hebrought one.
Always be prepared.
He brought a gun.
He better have brought a condomIf he was forcing her to come
along.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Oh.
And so he says she's like, sayssomething.
And he says I know what I'mdoing now.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Oh, because when they were kissing she was like, oh,
that's an improvement orsomething.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Oh, I know what I'm doing.
It was awkward.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
It was middle school lady.
Okay, she Obviously he wasawkward.
It was middle school lady.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Okay, Sheesh.
It also makes us wonder who arethese other girls that he
learned all these moves with?

Speaker 1 (52:40):
It could have been his hand.
That's where I learned, dan,you never did that you make.
You make the face with yourhand when you when you kiss it.
You never did that.
Was that not around when youwere a kid?

Speaker 2 (52:54):
You.
You sat in your room and madeout with your hand.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
You make it.
When you say it like that, itsounds creepy, but I was
perfecting my craft and I got totell you, if I ever get a movie
where I get to kiss, there'sgoing to be a podcast, just like
this, and those guys are goingto be like, damn, he did it, he
knows what he's doing, just likeTaylor Lautner.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
So, right in the middle of all this, she's like
it is hot and heavy.
She says we should get somefood.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
She just like shuts it down.
She shuts it down cold and youknow what Kudos to him for being
like cool, because there couldhave been a weird moment, but
they played it very good.
I don't know why she cut it off.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
You mean his rage issues didn't cut in Right
because he doesn't have rageissues, Dan that was a lie.
So oh, the bad guy's on thetrain, we know that.
So the bad guy grabs the girland then like really brutally
beats her up, like yeah, it wasreally brutal, pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
And what's so?
What's interesting is she.
There's like there's like noblood in this movie.
I don't know if you noticedthat, but nobody really bleeds.
But she probably PG, sure, butshe bruised.
But she's the only person inthe movie who bruises.
It was very weird to me,because Taylor Lautner gets hit
in the face.

(54:19):
A bunch never bruises.
In this train scene that we'reabout to talk about, he gets his
head smashed into a window,cracks the window.
Beautiful face, nothing wrong,pristine, beautiful face.
I was like what that's weird.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
That's where the money is.
Why bruise the girl?
The girl's face is not themoney, his face is the money I
guess, just felt weird.
So he just kicked.
I think he kicks her on theground one time.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Oh, for sure yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
It's really just like kind of like in no Holds Barred
, they like adding, like this,extra level of brutality on the
women, just to show you thatthese are bad guys, these are
the bad people.
It made me uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Yeah, oh for sure, I usually don't get uncomfortable
in movies, but it it sort offelt personal in like a weird
way to me again is that it itfelt so much more real and
brutal than any of the otherfight scenes in the entire movie
.
Yeah, everything else is quickcuts and you don't really see a
lot of connection and thehitting, but this was like

(55:28):
visceral and it just felt out ofplace.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
And it felt out of place because she's kind of
undeserving of all this.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
She's just sort of tagging along.
She's an innocent bystander.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
And usually those kind of characters you put in
jeopardy and you threatenjeopardy on them.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
But you don't actually.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Yes, and then he.
You know, you can like TaylorLautner's character, you can
like Taylor Lautner's character,you can chain up and, you know,
hit with the electro probesbecause he deserves it.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Right, because he'd be fine, because nothing,
nothing hurts him.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
He's fine.
And then then he, then someleft and right, and then they
end up fighting in his cabin.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Yeah, yeah, weird, weird chase or misconnections
scene.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Yeah, this, this fight was kind of boring to me.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Were the other fights exciting to you.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
I liked Maria Bello's fight.
I liked it.
Okay, you're right, you'reright, you're right, the mom.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
the mom fought, but the dad part of it was terrible.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
It was not that good.
Yeah, Her fight, her fight waswas a real fight where where
they they actually exploit.
I wish they'd have exploitedmore where it was like two on
one in that fight.
Where you're just like it's twoon one, she's going to loot,
you know you.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
As good as she is, she's not going to be able to
overcome it.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
And they didn't really play on that at all.
So they fight, he beats him andthen probably my favorite part
of the movie except Probably myfavorite part of the movie
except for there's a bomb in theoven.
He throws the bad guy out thewindow of the train.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Well, first of all, which?

Speaker 2 (56:53):
is like really.
I mean, which is going to killhim for sure, which is him?

Speaker 1 (56:57):
murdering that guy?
Yeah, yeah, he's dead.
He never stood a chance.
All right, he's got rage issues, Dan.
What are you going to do?
But how strong are trainwindows do you think?

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Oh, but how strong are trained windows, do you
think?
Oh, you're not getting throughthem, right, I would think
you're not ever getting throughthem.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
First, of all, the guy smashing his head and
cracking the entire window.
He's definitely hurt, that'llmess you up legitimately.
But then he karate, kicks thewindow out.
Oh, did he karate kick thekarate kick that's how he opened
the window, he just kicks it.
I the whole that whole thingwas really dumb to me so so they

(57:39):
.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
How did they stop the train?

Speaker 1 (57:41):
the train stops for some reason because a goddamn
body just fell out of the sidewindow no, I think they pull the
stop and then sneak off.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
You think they?

Speaker 1 (57:50):
pulled the stop oh, I just imagined that somebody in
one of the hundred cars behindthem was like was that a body
that fell out?
Better, stop the train andcheck on this person that fell
out of a moving train so they,they sneak out and um and
they're like running away.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
And then Alfred Molina's character is like on
them instantaneously, so fast.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
So so fast.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
And they're immediately ready to turn around
and bolt back into the woods.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
And then he gives them a whole song and dance
about why they should stop.
Somehow one of the guys gotahead of them in the woods.
Did you notice that?
How did that happen?
Got ahead of them in the woodsDid you notice that?
How did that happen?
Did they set a trap in thewoods, knowing he'd run to that
specific point and then converge?
So weird to me.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
It was so bad.
Yeah, I wrap up the whole moviein like this much space.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Oh good, I've got lots to say, don't worry.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
I know.
So then they go to a diner andand then they, the girl, the
little girls off, getting theother agents off, tending to her
bruises, tend to your bruises,because they're only one person.
Bruises in this entire movieand what you're going to do to
somebody you know it's not like,it's not like they put me.
She was cut and it's what's theagent going to do about you?

Speaker 1 (59:07):
they were putting makeup on it, so no one would
know.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Because it was both women, they were doing makeup.
Because that's what women dothey do makeup.
Jesus Christ, jesus, tony,you're terrible.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
You give me a better explanation for what he was
doing to bruises?

Speaker 2 (59:23):
So then Alfred Molina's character is like oh,
we're looking.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
I think this is where we lay out the whole plot yeah,
yeah, as he's eating hisdelicious, he makes that sound
several times.
I don't know why it's in there.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
I'm sorry.
So the plot is this the evilRussians have been looking for
Taylor Lautner's charactersbecause he's the son of the
super spy and somehow, just inthe last week, the super spy has
gotten this super spyinformation, which is a coded
thing on the phone which somehowNathan magically now has.
And they want this thing.

(01:00:00):
I don't.
Somehow, everybody then figuresout that Nathan actually has it
, I think, or he tells them, orsomething I don't even know.
Well, I don't think.
Do they know yet?
Yeah, because he finds out inthe course of this conversation
or something.
So basically, they want to takeNathan and then use him as a
bargaining chip to get thisinformation back.

(01:00:22):
But somehow Taylor Lautnerknows that Alfred Molina's
character's name is on this list.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Best, guess ever.
I mean, this kid is smart.
Wow, he called that bluff froma mile away Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
And so there's like six or seven agents outside the
building protecting standingaround in the street with guns.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
They are fully armed Just in the surrounding area.
They're on rooftops.
This is a scary place to beright now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
And now, somehow, the bad guys are also here and have
somehow taken up even betterpositions.
Well, that's my thing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
These people are on the roofs.
You had time to set up, pickgood vantage points.
What are you doing?
You're a terrible team.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
No, but you see, they're not a terrible team.
The other team is just eventhat much more magical.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
No, they were a terrible team.
This guy, one of the cuts, wasthese two bad guys creeping up
over the edge, looking down andseeing a guy on the roof below,
and then they just slowly walkback like there's a guy there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
what so?
The bad guys kill everybody,kill all the ostensible good
guys, and then start repellingdown the walls in this one, this
one sort of throwaway scene,and then they start blasting the

(01:01:52):
hell out of the diner, thediner.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Oh yeah, I mean they're just ripping it up, but
this is my favorite part of themovie Dan.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
I don't even remember .
You know, Tony, I have no ideahow they resolved all the bad
guys outside and like the goodguys inside and the good guys
get away somehow everybody'sdying right, good, great.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
they rain hellfire on the diner.
Alfred melina and his I thinkhis lady cop, both dive, hit the
floor and they're like nathanrun.
So nathan and the girl get away.
I think most of the otherpeople are dead, except for
Alfred and the girl, and this isthe greatest part of the movie.
As the bad guys are entering,alfred Molina gives a little nod

(01:02:37):
to his lady and then they playdead.
They play possum, dan, and thenthey wake up and shoot the bad
guys and there was nocommunication.
So this to me, this is tellingme that playing possum is part
of your FBI slash, cia training,like if you're ever in a
situation where people arecoming into a building that just

(01:02:59):
shot up, play dead, they'llnever guess you're really alive.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Bang yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
That was amazing.
It was.
I've never seen that in a moviemovie?

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
I don't think.
And uh, kudos to them, kudos.
So once again, his, his, hisbuddy has come through.
He meets up with the buddy, thebuddy's like stolen the
neighbors gilly.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
It just, I just remembered.
And how does he get to theseplaces?

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
he's he's, he stole the neighbors.
He stole the neighbor's car, hetook the neighbor's car.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
I don't mean physically, dan.
He says that.
How does he know where to meetthese people who are on the run?
How do they keep communicating?
Gilly is the magic man.
He has a PSP connection toNathan and really they should be
together.
I think that's the end of themovie.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Oh, that would be sweet.
So he shows up and he's gotthem tickets, and then he has,
because of course the game ishappening.
He says I've set up everything,or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Like what.
What did you set up guy?

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Well, we're going to find that out.
Yes, we are in the in the, thebig finale.
So they're at the baseball gameand this is the point at which
he cuts loose the girl.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
He's like girl, just go do whatever you've been along
with all this definitelyinvolved now, because everyone
has seen her at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Now let her go, you idiot now it's safe for you to
not be around me.
So he goes in there and, like,all the bad guys go in there, or
not only one of the bad guys goin there, because he leaves
like the tick, leaves a ticketstuck to the shoe yeah, to the
shoe of the of the statue, whichis great.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
But here's my problem with this scene.
The young lady is is takingpictures of this happening so
that he knows that they're thereon her flip phone from like 30
yards away.
That flip phone has like a 20xzoom on it.
There's no way that that isright.

(01:05:02):
That phone is magical man.
I've taken a lot of pictureswith flip phones and if you're
any further than five feet awayyou can't tell what's happening.
You can't see nothing.
Those pixels are huge.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
So they're in, he's in there, the bad guy's in there
.
They come at the seats, theysit down next to each other and
then the dude tells Nathan thathe killed his mom and we see
that under the seat is a gun.
So he has gotten his friend,his black friend, to go hours

(01:05:43):
early and tape a gun under aseat to wait for him to show up.
What is the?

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
problem with all of this Just one Is that what I'm
supposed?

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
to think there's just one problem with this.
What's the main problem withthis?
It turns.
I'm supposed to think there'sjust one.
What's the main problem withthis?

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
I, it turns out.
I don't think there is aproblem with this damn, because
I have concluded just in the thespan of this podcast is that
that gilly's dad owns thestadium, that must be what it is
he literally owns, owns thestadium, and so it was fine.
It was totally fine.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Hey Dad, I'm going to go plant a gun in your stadium.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
For all I know, the dad did it.
He was like you know what?
I'll take care of it, don'tworry, bud, you're my best
friend.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Okay, Tony, talk to me about seats at baseball
stadiums.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
The plastic seat that flips up so you'd be able to
see the gun at all times.
What about it, Dan?
What do you want to know?

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
So the people that are sitting two seats down
because there's somebody rightnext to them, right For hours,
right Because the game's well,the place is full, pretty much.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Yeah, for sure.
They would probably just belike oh, it's one of those seats
that's a special prize that youwin in between innings.
They'll be like seat number 47,look underneath Gun.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
So of course Nathan's sitting there.
He pulls out the gun.
He's thinking about rage,shooting this guy because he
killed his parents, or his momor his real mom or his not real
mom.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
He's not sure who he's raging about.
Well, he's not raging.
He puts it back.
This idiot, in the middle ofbeing told that this guy's a bad
guy and kills everybody, islike you know what I want to
hear more safely?
And puts the gun back.
I mean, just shoot him, guy.

(01:07:33):
You know he's the bad guy.
Why don't you shoot him?
What is the purpose of takingthe gun out and putting it back
in?

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
So somehow then Nathan stands up and the bad guy
retrieves the gun.
Surprise, surprise.
Now the bad guy has a gun inthe stadium.
Surprise, surprise.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Yeah, so thenathan runs away and there's a bunch of
running away.
Just a very first of all, Ijust want to say that, uh, from
my understanding is that taylorlautner uh does martial arts and
has like some skills which Idon't have any stunts.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
He did some of the stunts that's what I like.
The sliding down the glass.
He did that.
I watched cool great.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
I want more of that I feel like they really wasted
this opportunity because, yes,he's not a good actor, but
there's a lot of action starsthat are terrible actors but
they get away with it becausethey do cool, cool things in
their movies.
I don't feel like we utilizethat at all because Because he
does some cool parkour in thisrunaway scene.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
I was like where was?

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
that for the rest of the movie.
Put that in there somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Well, that's I mean, and that's the whole thing is
they wanted to have a love story.
You know, they wanted to haveeverything.
They wanted him making out witha girl so that girls watching
this could think that that'sthem.
Or if Tony's watching this hecould think that he's making out
with taylor lautner, thank you.
So they run around and his dadcalls him on the phone and is

(01:08:57):
like get him, I'm here, son,which I kind of like that line.
Um, he's like get him out tothe left parking lot and then
I'll take care of things.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
I don't understand why they refuse to show the dad.
He has one of the mostrecognizable voices in Hollywood
.
Immediately I was like I knowthat guy and then they never
show his face.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
I didn't know it was him until I saw the bottom of
his jaw his chin.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
I was like oh, that's who it is.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
But I, I was like, I know that voice, I know that
voice, yeah you and it's superdistracting.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
I would have rather they just showed and I was like,
oh, okay, cool, I know that guy.
But instead it's like thismystery.
And then I spent half the moviebeing like, okay, oh no, I know
who it is, I know who.
It is a terrible decision.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
The whole thing is, this guy's been trying to get
this information which is onthis phone, this whole movie,
and we're finally out there inthe parking lot.
He's pointing a gun at him andhe says stop or I'll kill you,
or something.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
After the straight line sprinting, the chase scene
starts, cool, with parkour andthen goes into the parking lot
where they're just both runningin a straight line.
Why are you running in astraight line if a guy's got a
gun on you?

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
zigzag, at least give me something so he stops and
you're like how does this guyever?
You know there's all these ciaguys everywhere how does he
think he's going to get awaywith this magic list?
No idea they will go throughanything to just like it it's.
You have to take this list anduse it somehow.

(01:10:34):
You're not, it's.
It's encrypted, so you can'tjust like go, I've got the list,
I'm done.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
That's why doesn't he just kill taylor lautner here?
He's already basicallysurrounded by the guys, all he
needs.
He should just get the list atthis point.
Why does he keep the kid alive?

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
and so what is, what's his big line?

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
that he says oh no, I don't know what's his big line
you're not as good as yourfather of course it's not.
He's not a trained spy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
And so what should Taylor Lautner have said at that
point?

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Yes, I am.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
He should have said you're not as good as my father.
And the father guns him downbecause the father is the hero.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Why does the father take four minutes to gun this
guy down.
There's a whole standoff wherehe's pointing the gun at his kid
and he's just like lookingthrough the scope and like okay,
I got him, don't pull thetrigger.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Don't pull the trigger.
He's adjusting it for wind.
He's holding the finger up.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
Okay, Okay, all right .

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
He's got a haze Okay, finger up, okay, okay, all
right.
He's got a haze, okay Haze.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
Look, I've seen American Sniper.
All right, you can get that offquicker.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
So who was the dad?

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
I don't remember his name, but isn't he?
He's the guy.
He's the guy with the long face, and he's from that wedding
movie.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
You just said he's got one of the most recognizable
voices, but you don't know whohe is.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
He's got a recognizable voice, but not a
name.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Okay, is he Dylan McDermott or Dermot Moroney?
The second one, dylan McDermott, dermot Moroney.
He's the second one.
Which one?
Dylan McDermott, dermot Moroney, moroney, you're correct.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Yeah, See I know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
So then Sigourney Weaver shows up, because of
course everyone shows up.
Yeah, I wrote piece of wood,because through all this he's
Taylor Lautner's piece of wood.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
I don't understand piece of wood, taylor Lautner's
piece of wood?

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
I don't understand piece of wood and then they go
out into the stadium.
They get to spend time in theempty stadium.
Hold on Before we get there.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
We have to talk one last time about the parents in
this movie.
So Sojourny Weaver decides thatshe's just going to be his
Sojourny Weaver, that she's justgoing to be his.
I just Sojourney Weaver, Fine.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Sojourney.
What did you say?

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
I put a J in it instead.
It's Sojourney Weaver, so shedecides to be his parent for no
reason.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Oh yeah, she does.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
But her first act as a parent is to let him go off
with this lady to have alonetime.
It's like no.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Are you going?

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
to have kids.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
I'm going to have kids, but guess what?

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
They're not going to have kids until they're old
enough to have kids.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
I'm going to be like the uncle that brings over the
bottle of scotch for yournine-year-old you are not
allowed in my house, Dan.
He's going to have a littlebucket that he puts out the
window.
I mean scotch and pornography,all the things that he needs.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
All the things that growing boy needs.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
So basically we find out that the problem in eighth
grade is that he wasn't ready.
And then he says somethingabout pretty exciting for a
first date.
Ha ha, ha, ha, ha ha.
So bad wasn't ready.
And then he says somethingabout pretty exciting for a
first date, uh, so bad.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
But again this obviously Gilly has to own the
entire stadium because they'realone in the stadium, which is
not allowed.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
It's very frustrating .
That's abduction, tony, who inthis movie was abducted.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
All of the kids from the milk cartons that we make
fun of.
Those are the only kids thatare abducted in this movie we
make fun of.
No, no, no, sorry, we as in themovie.
The movie made fun of the onlypeople that were actually
abducted.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
No one in this movie was abducted.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Wrong the kids on the milk cartons.
Some of them I mean not all ofthem for sure, who knows but
some of them were definitelyabducted.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
How do you know that they're?

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
probably all deep fakes.
You think every single one ofthem is a CIA or FBI agent's kid
.
This is a great conspiracy.
I'm into that.
I'm into it.
You're right, nobody wasabducted.
I have no idea why it's calledabduction, not even a little bit

(01:15:19):
.
The only person that might havebeen abducted is the love
interest.
She's the only person thatmight have been abducted by
Nathan.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
And that's another whole story.
You can do seven days of thecondor where he he abducts a
fade Dunaway's character anduses her.
You know what I'm talking about, Don't you tell?

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
me, I do, I do, actually, I know this reference.
I think that's a set of captainAmerica line.
I understood that reference.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Who's this?
Who's the star of seven Days ofthe Condor?

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
I don't remember anyone's name, Dan.
I'm going to Google it rightnow.
How about that?
That's stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
Any final thoughts about abductions?

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
I've said it before and I'll say it again what a
waste of a beautiful specimenthat is taylor lautner.
He, even though he's not verygood, I still think he deserves
better and it's a good shirt.
I I think that they should havegiven him another chance.
I I feel bad that this was kindof his one and done because he

(01:16:25):
wasn't given much to work with.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
I think he's a TV star.
That's what I think.
I think he should go and be inTV.
He's not a movie star.
Sure, this is not a guy that'sgoing to carry a movie.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
As long as he gets to be topless in whatever he does,
I'm fine with it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Okay, well, we're going to abduct ourselves from
abduction because, god, what apile.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
It wasn't a bad movie .

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
It was just like.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
It just wasn't good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
It was a movie, it was a cookie-cutter movie.
At the 30-minute mark was wherehis parents are getting killed,
and there's 15 minutes at theend, although at the end there
was like seven or eight minutesafter the bad guy was killed.
Yes, you're just like wow, whatare we going to do at this time
, can we?

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
just wrap it up.
Please Roll the credits.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
So this is the part of the show where we talk about
something we like that we'veseen this week.
I haven't seen anything Ireally like this week, so I'm
going to pick something a littlebit different.
I'm going to pick a video game.
It's kind of a video game, it'sit's kind of a video game.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
It's an online game.
It's called.
Fall Guys have you seen thisgame?
I love Fall Guys unbelievable.
They gave it away onPlayStation Plus for free and it
is so much fun.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
I haven't played it yet, but I've watched people on
Twitch playing it and you'rethis little character and you're
just trying to avoid eithergetting thrown off a bridge or
knock down a hole, or it's justreally cute and really fun and
just like just this nice palettecleansing thing in this world,
and that's that's what we needSometimes a little little

(01:18:03):
cleansing of the old palette.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
Yeah, especially now.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
What do you got for us, Tony?

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
I'm going a little bit different.
I'm going a little moreemotionally.
My pick for this week is alittle documentary called you
Cannot Kill David Arquette.
Came out, I think, last weekand it's about David Arquette's
return to wrestling.
Don't shake your head.

(01:18:30):
It's emotional, it's kind ofsad.
I mean, it's actually reallysad because it's really a look
into David Arquette's emotionalplace in his world, like his
acting career has kind ofdwindled.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Is he kind of an unstable guy?
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
for sure, for sure he's I mean not in like a
dangerous way, but unstable, asin.
I think there's some depressionthere.
You know, his life kind of tooka dive after I mean the way
that the movie depicts it asafter his debut in WWE, where he
won the belt.
I think it might have been WWEafter the 10th.
Wait, who are we talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Are we talking about David Arquette the actor?
It's David Arquette the actor.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
From Scream.
That's what everyone remembershim from, but he did a lot of
great stuff before that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
He's in one of my favorite movies, hamlet 2.
Oh, that is good.
That is amongst.
That's like one of my top tenmovies.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
The guy can legit act have you seen my Own Private
Idaho.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Was he in that?
He was in that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
I don't remember him in that it's him and River
Phoenix and it's one of hisearlier roles.
But it's a tough movie to watchbut it's good he can act.
And then in the early 2000s hedid a movie called something
about rumble.
He did a wrestling movie.
We'll probably do that movie atsome point now that I'm on a
david arquette kick.

(01:19:57):
It wasn't very good, but topromote the movie he went and
did some some wrestling.
And how big is he?
He's very small.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
Okay, he's, he's not a big guy but you keep saying
wrestling, and I picture picturethis little guy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
I'm like what the hell?
But that's the thing is, theythought it would be a great
gimmick to let him win the belt,oh, okay, and when that
happened, his career went offthe rails because everyone hated
him.
Everyone, like the wrestlingworld, hated him.
They were really mad.
Hollywood stopped taking himseriously because he was doing
this ridiculous wrestling thingand his basically his career

(01:20:32):
kind of started to unravel thereand was taken less seriously.
And so he's he's in mid-40s nowand he feels like he's a joke
and he's kind of depressed onwhere his life is, and so his
answer to that is to return towrestling.
And so there's it's a doc aboutthat and it's it's an
interesting look at, you know,kind of like the psyche of an
actor who maybe isn't where hewants to be and kind of

(01:20:54):
self-redemption, more thananything.
It's, it's beautiful, it's,it's it's worth a watch.
I liked it.
And where'd you watch it?
At?
It's, uh, it's.
It came out on uh home digitalweek, so I watch it on.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
What's that it's digital movies, so it's not on
any free platform, but you canbuy it, so you can rent it for
$4 a frame.
Yeah, you can rent it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
Yeah, I would assume Amazon Prime.
You can rent it Prime.
I bought it on Vudu because I'ma huge David Arquette fan.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
Anyhow, and is there any positive resolve at the end
of the movie?

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
It ends kind of hopeful, slash, inspirational,
but there's no.
It leaves it obviously openbecause he's not on a comeback.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
But he has enough money to live the rest of his
life right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Oh for sure.
Yeah, it's not like he'shurting in that way, financially
or anything, it's just innerturmoil that he's trying to
wrestle with Ha-ha, wrestle with.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
That's one thing that we didn't talk about at Hulk
Hogan, we didn't talk about atthis.
We should just talk about thisfor one second.
Since I didn't pick a movie,let's talk about another movie
for just a second the WrestlerUgh, one of the greatest movies

(01:22:14):
of all time.
Yeah, yeah, heartbreaking,depressing when he, when he sets
up at that show, you know, likeselling his merchandise at the
card table, yeah, that was oneof the realest things I've ever
seen in a movie, because it's sotrue and so heartbreaking it,
it's, yeah, it's wild.
So starting next week.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
Halloween.
What Is that?
One of the ones that glows inthe dark?
October, it's Halloween.
It's Halloween.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
It's Halloween time, so we're going to do Halloween
movies for the next four weeks.
These are going to be creepy,spooky, terrible, terrible
movies.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
Definitely that they may not make Creep or Spooky,
but they'll try.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
So I have gone with a movie that I've seen part of
and is just keep pettingyourself with the hand one, ah,
ah, not up the nose.
Um, I'm going with one of theworst movies ever made, one of

(01:23:27):
those equivocal worst moviesever made, and I've watched part
of this movie and it isincomprehensible and just weird.
This is no Hollywood big.
This is low-rent, true garbage1991.
Okay, you know it, you love it.
Troll 2.

(01:23:47):
Troll 2.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
A classic which I've never seen.
No, I never a classic whichI've never seen.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
No, I never, never seen it.
Okay, never saw it.
I've seen part of it.
It's terrible.
So next week we'll have watchtroll 2, which is available on
Amazon Prime for rental.
Great, yeah, any other lastwords for the spooktacular

(01:24:15):
October that we're going to bestarting.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
I am ready.
It is my favorite season of theyear and my family it's.
The biggest holiday that wecelebrate is Halloween.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Are you going home for Halloween?

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
halloween tony no, dan, I'm not because of the
world, but yeah, every otheryear I have, man.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
You haven't seen your family in a long time have you?
Yeah, it's the longest I'veever gone without seeing them
yeah, tony, tony used, hisfamily used to fly out here all
the time and they'd have familyvacations and things, and few
times a year, and so it's beenharsh.
Yeah, obviously it could beworse Way to bring the show down
, tony.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
You brought it down, if anything.
I was like Halloween I'm soexcited.
And then you brought up myfamily.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
Well, someday you'll have a family of your own and
you will traumatize thosechildren horribly.
And Dan Goodsell will be therewith the booze.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
Here's the booze, little boy thank god for you,
dan thank god for you well, thishas been hate watching with dan
and tony.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
I'm dan and that's tony, and we'll see you next
week bye, everybody, we love you.
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