Hate Watching No Holds Barred: Bad Guys, Body Slams, and Bathroom Humor

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
you're not wearing your wrestling gear.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
So no, I'm I'm heartbroken and ashamed, but my
rip them t-shirt never came yeah, my uh, my uh, my uh.
Hulk hogan hair and mustachedid not come either man, this
covet is messing up all of thegood gimmicks.
Hey watchin' With Dan and Tony.
Hey watchin' With Dan and Tony,it's like watchin' yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Tony, are you ready To face down On the hate
watchin' with Dan and Tony,where we watch no Holds Barred,
with the one, the only, hulkHogan, wwf, wwe Wrestler
Greatest of All Times.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
I really felt that that kind of faded towards the
end Faded, yeah, it startedreally strong and then it like
turned into this weird like atthe end it was great, I loved it
.
Yeah, it's great, I'm readybrother.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
That was Hollywood, dan Goodsell, by the way.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Hollywood.
Dan Goodsell coming in strong.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Oh God, I'm ready to talk about this movie so yeah,
this week we're doing no holdsbarred hulk hogan's first
feature film where he is thelone star center stage.
He's the guy.
He's probably in at least 50 ofthe movie or maybe 40% of the
movie.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
I think it's got to be closer to 40.
And I was very confused by that.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
We're going to get into that.
1989, vince McMahon and Hulkget together.
Hulk, his number one star atthe time.
I assume he had to have been,had to have been, yeah.
So they're like okay movies.
That's where the money is, andI'm I, I'm sure they, maybe I
don't think they lost money onthis, this thing supposedly they

(02:15):
just made their money back withuh with all the like uh
advertising fees and stuff it.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
At one point on one of the shows one of the wwf, I
think at the time shows vincemcmahon made a joke uh, and said
that hulk, if, if it didn'tmake the money back, hulk said
he was going to do something andhe was like I'm waiting.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
I'm waiting because we didn't make any money that a
kind of interesting thing aboutthis movie is when you sort of
look into it deeper.
No, but they don't really talkabout it.
There's not like this sort ofyou know bunch of information
about this.
Oh, I got to clean my glasses.
It's really dirty.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Oh no, sorry, you look like a schlub.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
If you're listening on the podcast, I just cleaned
my glasses.
Yeah, you'd think, with thisbeing a major wrestling movie,
there would be a lot more talkabout it.
But there, really isn't?

Speaker 2 (03:09):
This should be like a cult classic.
I mean, it's probably not goodenough to be a cult classic, but
all signs point to it shouldhave been a cult classic.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
I think.
I mean reading some of thereviews.
It seems like a lot of thewrestling kids at the time
watched this movie and liked it.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
At the time but they don't talk about it now.
Oh, really I hang out with alot of wrestlers for the
listeners and watchers.
If you don't know, I do a showcalled Wrestling Pro Wrestling.
Just putting that out there.
Check it out.
On Twitch Nobody talks about it.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Who do you play on this wrestling?
You're like Tugboat.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Tony, I play a couple .

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Johnny Bowler, who are you?

Speaker 2 (03:56):
No, but that's great.
I mean, you're just describingwhat I wear, I guess, because I
wear a bowler hat for one of mycharacters.
I play two characters.
I play both a heel and a babyface.
I am Uncle.
Gary Tickles is my heelcharacter.
He's the owner and the ownerand proprietor of Wrestling Pro

(04:16):
Wrestling.
And then I also play his twinbrother, tony Tickles, which is
the baby face who's there tokind of like was there to kind
of save it.
But now we, just right beforewe went oh great storylines, by
the way right before we went onhiatus, tony tickles kind of
stole a bunch of the wrestlingpro wrestling characters and
created his own wrestlingcommunity called pro wrestling

(04:40):
pro.
And now they're going to go.
They were going head to headand then we had to shut down.
But some really exciting stuffover there.
Check it out.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
That's like a two minute ad for the show no, I
mean we're, we're going to digdeep into your rest.
You know you're the wrestlingaficionado, so we, we have to.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
I regret now not bringing on, uh, a character by
the name of Serial man, who hemight literally murder me for
saying this, but he may or maynot have been slightly inspired
by Hollywood Hulk Hogan and he'skind of like our big baby face.
Our star is Serial man.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
So wait a second.
Should I have him on the show?
You're the star of the show,you're the guy that runs the
show and you're the twin brotherof the guy that runs the show.
That's what you just said.
You just said you're the starof the show, you're the guy that
runs the show and you're thetwin brother of the guy that
runs the show.
That's what you just said.
You just said you're the starof the show.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Serial man is a star of the show, isn't that you?
Yes, not me, not me, no, no.
This is like a legit wrestler.
He also watches the show, sohe's going to be super pissed at
me.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Oh, oh, you mean, you could have brought him on as a
guest or something.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yes, yeah, we should have brought him on as a expert
wrestler talker.
That's not the words for it.
Maybe I'll do like a follow-upand release it on on twitter or
something maybe you will, so noholds barred.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
uh, this is a movie, it's an hour and 32 minutes,
yeah, and basically it's HulkHogan.
I don't know what to say aboutthis movie.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
You don't.
I have so many notes.
This is the most notes I'veever written.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
There are three laughs in this movie.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Wow Okay, disagree, but continue.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
And sadly the third laugh is at like 30-minute mark,
so you got another hour to gowithout much.
It gets emotional, it gets real.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
It gets gritty, Come on Dan.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Does it get emotional ?
Does it get real Hulk?

Speaker 2 (06:40):
cries, he cries.
I think he was really crying.
It was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Oh, this damn bandana is falling off.
Hat back on.
So we start out.
We meet Rip, who is played byHulk Hogan, and Rip is wrestling
Jake Mullock I guess no oneI've ever heard of and Jesse,
the body Ventura in weird golddreads, is doing the

(07:09):
commentating, which which hedoes not do enough, of which
we're like, oh, this ismoderately interesting, and then
jesse's gone for the rest ofthe movie well, of course I I
had a question about thisopening scene.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
I don't, I mean there's no answer to it.
It felt weird that some peoplewere real and some people were
not, and then some people werecalled themselves but were not
playing themselves.
Like it was this weird mishmash.
I see what you're saying it wasbecause jesse the body ventura
was called jesse ventura, likethey said, this is jesse, but

(07:42):
that's not jesse.
I've never seen jesse, evenlike they said, this is jesse,
but that's not jesse.
I've never seen jesse dressedlike that.
I don't believe that that washim at the time, I don't think.
But then you know, you had likemean janine who was just
playing himself, or mean gene,sorry, wrestling pro wrestling,
but uh, mean gene the othercomment, the other commentator
guy.
Yeah, I've heard of him but thenthey didn't use a real wrestler

(08:04):
.
I don't think that he waswrestling.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Jake Bullock was the guy's name.
I've never heard of him.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, I don't know, I guess I could be wrong, but it
just felt weird that some people, like the world, was very
confused from the jump and thatwas.
It was a rough start for me.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
So there's a whole uh wrestling scene.
We also see that randy's got ayounger brother.
I mean, uh, rip's got a youngerbrother, randy, who is just
this kid who, like, also has afriend and his friend has a
girlfriend who they just kind ofcome in and out and don't
really the lady is the othergirl, I think, is his, his his,

(08:41):
his friend's girlfriend, Ibelieve.
Okay, so the interesting thingabout the wrestling is there's
all these overdubs of them doinganimal noises.
There's no banter for the mostpart in the wrestling, it's just
a lot of animal noises.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
And all of it was ADR .
There's so much bad ADR in thismovie, Like words are coming
but people's lips aren't evenmoving and we're shooting behind
people's heads so they're like,well, they won't even know that
he's not really talking.
It was bizarre to me.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
So I think in the middle of it we cut to the evil
suit guys, which is Mr Brill,and then David Pamer and this
other guy, and we will find thatBrill is actually the main
character in this movie.
This movie is about him.
And then we cut back and thenthere's a big.
Then we finish the fight andthere's a sleeper hold which was

(09:38):
about the weakest.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
You are really going through this intro.
This intro sets up a lot ofstuff that doesn't make any
sense.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
So we need to slow your roll.
Well, the evil suits are.
There's more suits at the end.
We'll talk about that.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Okay, Okay we can.
We'll circle back to the suits.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
So so the the fight sort of finishes, oh finishes,
with the big foot, hulk, hulk,foots, foots, jake in the face,
and that's sort of the end, butthere's a sleeper hold and then
there's a big foot and that'ssort of the end of the wrestling
.
The wrestling seemed reallyweak to me.
It seemed very undynamic andvery sloppy.

(10:14):
I mean, it felt like you shouldhave been shooting it from a
quarter mile away.
But they were shooting it fromlike five inches away.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, so it's weird because obviously Hulk great
wrestler dynamic in the ring twothings like really stood out to
me in the intro of this movie,maybe three.
One hulk acting like a wrestleris so much worse than hulk

(10:43):
being a wrestler on the showthat it threw me for a loop.
He can't even pretend to be adifferent wrestler.
It was very confused.
Like his rip stuff was reallybad.
He's like rip, I'm rip, rip'sgonna get a rip like, but it
wasn't.
It wasn't like Hulk.
Like Hollywood Hulk Hogan is isdynamic in the ring, he's so
good, he's great on the mic, buthis rip character is just blah.

(11:07):
So I was very confused on that,how he couldn't play a wrestler
even though he is a wrestler.
Very strange to me.
And second is the wrestlingitself was all bad.
It was mediocre, slow, paced,like there was nothing exciting
about it and I was like weshould be able to at least do
quick enough cuts that we don'tsee how slow Hulk really is.

(11:32):
Like it's weird when you're farback and watching it from the
ring in real life I feel likeit's not as apparent, but when
you're up close and you're likein the action, it just really
feels like a slog yeah, becausewhen he puts him in the sleeper
hold whoever gets put in thesleeper hold you're just like
the guy's just moving around,he's like not even, it's not

(11:53):
even held he's just, I'mchoosing to stay in this
position because I understandthat this is what is supposed to
be happening now, and so you,just you don't feel any.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
I don't know if jeopardy is right word, but you
don't feel like anything'sactually going on.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Which is interesting because I'm pretty sure and you
can tell me if I'm wrong herebut I got the strong sense that
they are saying that wrestlingis real in this movie.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Hmm, I don't know.
You know I've worried aboutthat when I was a kid and then
once I watched wrestling, yourealize it's just entertainment
and so you don't sort of, it's abeautiful dance.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
It's this beautiful mix of choreography and making
it up on the spot, improvisation.
It's awesome.
But this movie to me made itseem like they were saying it's
real, which is fine, like I'm OKwith that.
It just, it was just weird tome.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
I'm just glad, actually, I'm glad they didn't
get into it really, because thatwould have bogged down the
whole thought process of themovie, which there's not.
A lot of thought process.
No, there's not In the movie.
So then we go back to the evilsuits and Brill does a whole
thing where he's like we're lastin the ratings again, you know,
and does a whole thing wheresomehow the only show that

(13:13):
matters is Rip's wrestling,which isn't even a show.
It's not.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yes exactly, it is not even a show.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
It's just sort of Rip wrestling shows up on
television at one hour a nightor one hour a week, and this is
somehow the only thing that'simportant to a network.
He yells at everybody becausethey say what about a new game
show?
What about a new?

Speaker 2 (13:35):
soap opera.
So let's talk about this scene,because nothing in this scene
makes any sense to me.
First of all, did you catch thebackstory that he gave himself
this Braille guy?

Speaker 1 (13:45):
He just got into the job, like two months ago or
something.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
No, he didn't put a number on it.
Some months ago is what he saidwhen I took over the network
some months ago and I was likewhat?
That's the laziest writing I'veever heard in my life.
At some point I took over andnow you're up to speed, thanks
guys.
At some point I took over andnow you're up to speed, thanks
guys.
But what doesn't make any senseto me is that he's not not only
is Hulk's show not a show, buthe's not pitching a show.

(14:13):
He's just saying we need thisguy on our network.
Yeah, that doesn't really makesense to me.
No, Like it doesn't.
Well, I don't know, it's soweird, like it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
I don't know it's so weird.
Well, the one thing I did readabout this movie was that they
had the script and Vince waslike this script is garbage.
And so he and Hulk went outinto a cabin somewhere and
rewrote the whole script.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
They Tarantino'd the script.
Yeah, they went and lockedthemselves.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
They locked themselves.
I don't know if it was a cabin,but yeah, they locked
themselves away somewhere for aweekend or maybe a week, I don't
know, maybe two days or like anight or a night.
And so that's why when youwatch this movie, it's like the
bad guy Brill is Vince McMahon,and so Vince, you know, so you
can tell that Vince is like,this is the character.
You know, he's evil, like me.

(15:01):
He only cares about ratings,like me, you know it's, there's
a very much a like me.
So if you look at it from thatpoint of view, he's like.
Because there was a.
There were competing wrestlingshows.
Right for sure, wwf was alwayscompeting with the, not the
undertaker, but the crow guy,whoever that white-faced guy was
.
I always remember there wassure, oh, goldberg okay, is he

(15:24):
an?
actor now is, he aren't they allactors now but I mean, I was
watching, like some csi orwhatever show and I was like, is
that goldberg?

Speaker 2 (15:35):
like I would say for sure.
He was in a commercial like ayear or two ago, so he's
definitely acting okay, so I Ithink that's what the whole
thing is is he's.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
This is the dynamic that he lives in, and so he
wants to see that dynamicsomehow reflected, you know, as
opposed to, you know, having asecondary wrestling syndicate
that he's in charge of.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, whatever yeah, yeah, no, he had no show.
All right, let's keep going sothen we have.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Then we were at the next morning, I guess, and oh no
, what's it?
I guess, we, I guess.
Then we go to the next morningwhere we have another meeting.
So we have that meeting.
Then we have another meetingright the next day where they're
supposed to bring in things.
Then we do the sitcom idea andhe yells at them which what?

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Oh, no, no, Finish your sentence, because it's
about that.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
He abuses the woman, which we see.
That the way that this movieshows us that someone is bad is
they are horribly abusivetowards women.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yes, that is the one defining characteristic that all
of the bad people in this moviehave.
What is that about Dan?
That was so off-putting.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yes, there's like maybe three times in the movie
where, like you know, someoneliterally really abuses a woman
and you're like they're bad hehits her, makes them cry, like,
almost rapes them, which we'lltalk about at some point.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
I'm sure it's bananas , like why, how is that the?
I don't know.
It's very weird.
But having said that, ifsomebody pitched me a sitcom
with Rip, I would also yell atthem and tell them it's a
terrible idea and you should getout.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
And so they're World Television Network.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Oh, that's right.
The best television name ever,the world television really
sloppy logo.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
It's just just just wonderful.
And so, of course, uh, brill islike what's his price?

Speaker 2 (17:36):
because you know, everything is is about money
right and hulk apparently hasthis uh high morality because he
won't budge.
Other people have asked him,but he's a man of his word.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
It's not a word we ever see, not a word we
understand.
We'll get to that in the nextone.
So then we see, I think he getspicked up by a limo.
Does he get picked up by a limo?
Something happens.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yes, Well, because he comes to a meeting now right,
we don't know that.
He's just like Sorry, sorry.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
We don't even know, but Rip is being ushered off
somewhere, I think in a limo,and then he gets to the place
and there's like or maybe hedrives his own car, I don't
remember, and they let him outand there's like the guy that
takes your car, the valetet, andhe's like yo rip and rips like

(18:29):
yo valet.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
You know it doesn't say anything, but you could tell
that he's a man of the people,the people yes, he is beloved,
and so he ends up.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
He's in brill's office, which is not set up at
all, just like boom.
Brill didn't set up thismeeting, no one set up this
meeting.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
But lo and behold, hulk is in a meeting with brill,
which is so confusing becausehe also then says he's not
interested.
Yeah, when brill like is likehey, you want to do this, he's
like no, I'll never do it.
It's like what?
Why are you here?
How did you get?
Who motivated you to get intothis office?
You have no interest in beingthere, but you came there

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seemingly of your own accord.
I don't.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
It doesn't make any sense and, and you know they and
brill is such a jerk.
He keeps on sort of doingthings to almost set hulk off
until he sets hulk off right.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
So this is like a theme.
This happens several timesthroughout the movie where much
smaller people antagonize thehulk by like pushing him and
hitting him.
If I was in front of Rip, Iwould never do anything to upset
him.
That guy could tear you in halfwithout a problem.
It's very weird to me.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
I was going to say that earlier.
There's one point in the ringat the first one, where you like
see Hulk and you're just like,this guy is gigantic.
He is just, you know, bald,with the crazy hair but the
giant mustache, but he he is,you know.
There's other wrestlers thatare bigger.
What's the big show?

(19:55):
That guy is as big as amountain, but Hulk is, he's in
the top end, I think.
Right, oh, 100%.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, that's why he's a mega star.
That's why he's a megastar.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
That's why he's a megastar.
So he gives him the blank check.
Rip says no and you got to thispoint where you're like Rip.
Please say one line as to whyyou're saying no to like this.
It's a blank check.
He can write $75 million.
He can write $1 billion onthere.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
But there's no rationale.
He could literally take a hugechunk of money, pay off his
other contract and then stillwalk out with like $20 million
in his pocket.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
But he doesn't even say that.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
He doesn't say he has a contract.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
He doesn't say he has a contract.
He doesn't say you're anasshole, I don't want to work
for you.
He doesn't say you know ourorganization helps orphans,
which it does later.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
He doesn't tell us anything he just says no, not
interested, no.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
And then we have one of the great lines of the movie.
Brill says you jock ass.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Oh, yes, I wrote that down it's.
He says it a couple timesunlike not to bring it back down
the moves, but unlike stealth,where they had that great
one-liner, never brought it back.
Like he says jock ass.
A couple of times I was like,yes, I am using this for my life
.
Yeah, jock ass.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
And so good, hulk gets mad and stuffs the check in
his mouth.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Which is, you know, telegraphed a mile away.
But it took too long to happenbecause he grabbed him first and
I was like just put it in hismouth.
We know you're going to do it,Just do it.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
So talk about the limo ride, Tony.
Oh my God.
So I have questions, dan, againabout how cars are made.
So I think they're made in indetroit and japan, not?

Speaker 2 (21:56):
not where they're made.
I, structurally, I don'tunderstand.
When he's kicking the door,yeah right, and then we cut to
the outside Dense, but it's likevery pointed shaped dense.
It's not like the door iscoming out just at an angle
because he's smashing it.
It's as if his foot is makingimpressions against the actual

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door itself.
Yes, which?
That's where I get confused onhow doors are made, because I
feel like there's some layers inbetween that would make it more
of just a bowing.
That would happen.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Well, I guess I don't know.
Yeah, remember, a door is it'stwo pieces there's the outside
metal and then there's plasticinside and then the windows the
windows in the middle going upand down with a bunch of
mechanisms and things like that.
The window's in the middlegoing up and down with a bunch
of mechanisms and things likethat.
So, yeah, you'd have to crackall that plastic and get through
all that to start actuallydenting the outside door and
probably shatter the window, Iwould imagine as well.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Yeah, I would think so, yeah, so anyhow.
So sorry, that was a tangent.
What my problem is is that thisis the first but not the last
time that we see our herocompletely lose his frickin mind
Like he is.
He is belligerent, he's violentand he's just just totally off

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the rails, and I was like Idon't want to root for this guy.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Oh, nuts, you turn to get Well.
So basically they're goingthrough, they're driving crazily
through the streets, the limodriver and so Rip is in the back
, falling apart, and then hestarts kicking everything,
trying to kick out the windows,and then it launches into this.
What?

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Well, so the problem I mean again back to how cars
are made.
Why is the limo driving socrazy?
No reason, because he's justkicking, like the sides mostly,
but the driver is like jerkingall over the road and running
into stuff and I was like Idon't understand what he's
affected by, I don't know what'shappening right now.
He's just driving crazy.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
He's trying to keep rip off of his game.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
That's so.
He's swerving to try to keepthem off balance, so he can't
bust out the limo.
Exactly, duh.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
So they launch into this abandoned warehouse area
which they scouted a lot ofabandoned warehouses and turned
them into a lot of weird thingsfor this movie.
And there lying in wait arethree more guys and we get just
this great grunting, laughing.
He picks it One of the guys upby his hair at one point, which

(24:30):
I liked.
I liked that a lot, I thoughtthat was good.
And there's just this battle bythe limo.
How did you feel about thatbattle by the limo?

Speaker 2 (24:39):
There were moments of fun, but again a lot of it was
just kind of slower.
Like these guys are muchsmaller than rip right, so
theoretically they'd be able tomove a little bit.
Get out of the way, like he'sswinging real slow.
You know, I feel like I couldget out of the way and I'm not
super agile.
I just feel like you just kindof do one of these and it swings

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by you.
I don't know.
So it's just I don't know if hewas slowing it down for the
camera.
You know, kind of like JackieChan and Bruce Lee had to do,
they had to slow down theirmoves a little Okay, sure so the
camera could catch his action.
Maybe that's what he was doing,because he's so fast.
Yeah, he's so fast.
I don't know.
He just feels sluggish throughthe whole movie.

(25:22):
I know he's not, he's a big guy, so he's moving slower, but
it's just, I don't know.
Do something in the editing tomake it feel a little more
dynamic, because it's very slow,fighting for me.
And then he dunks the guy intothe sunroof and the guy's just
laying there like he's injured.
But he just picked him up andset him in and I was like just

(25:43):
crawl out, you're fine guy.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
I don't know.
So eventually he drags the limodriver who's just been sitting
in there out and here we get thefirst big laugh of the movie.
He holds him and Rip goeswhat's that smell?
And the guy goes dookie, dookie.

(26:13):
I left my ass off.
I thought that was really.
Oh, I absolutely left my assoff.
I did not.
He says dookie, and I justbarely understood it.
It was okay because there waslike a note, maybe there was
music or something, but I was,was like he's, like he just said
, dookie, that's so stupid?
I'm on board with this.
You're on board with this.
I'm like we finally reached thepoint where I want to be with
this movie, where it's likeDookie jokes, but of course

(26:36):
there was all this grunting andweird laughing that was dubbed
in, which was just horrible.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
So, okay, a couple of things On Dookie really quickly
.
I think you have to make achoice, because this movie has
very little comedic anything andthen you go all the way to a
guy screaming Dookie.
Like that's a big jump for meand I'm like okay, if that's the

(27:03):
track we go on the rest of themovie, I'm okay with it.
But that was really the onlyjoke of the movie, because it's
so I don't know.
So I just felt like it wassuper out of place and I did not
end up laughing until muchlater when the movie was over
and I was recanting tales withmy wife and I was like, okay,

(27:24):
like, okay.
No, I do like it.
I just wish there was moreridiculous humor in the movie to
justify it sure, uh, it's justa good line that everyone
remembers.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
So we we go meet, uh Rip's agents.
He didn't have his agent withhim when he went to see Brill,
but who knows?

Speaker 2 (27:41):
and he didn't have lawyers, he didn't have any team
representation, he was justhe's fine we meet samantha.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Who's this?
Uh, kelly the brock light.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I wrote and that's mean I know she was very
attractive.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Oh yeah, it's very pretty green dress at the end.
Um, so they, they, I don't know.
They talk about stuff moremerchandising, more this.
And then he asked does he askher out to dinner?
Does she ask him?

Speaker 2 (28:08):
she, she asked him so let's first of all, let's
backtrack because, if youremember, from the last scene,
I'm kind of out on on ripbecause he's deranged.
Now I they've doubled down andmade him the creepiest man on
the face of the planet, which isa weird.
It's a weird scene for mebecause, like we said, the movie

(28:29):
depicts the villains as abusingwomen.
Sure, but rip is so creepy inthe scene staring at this
business woman.
He's in a business meeting andhe's like he's got his thumb in
his mouth.
At one point 's like I was likewhat is happening?
This is so inappropriate andI'm I'm 100 anti-rip in almost

(28:54):
the entire movie so she saysdinner, dot dot dot, dressy
because he dresses like awrestler in his normal day life,
which, which is very strange tome.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
So we get to the dinner place.
It starts off with this bigchurch-looking stained glass
window and I'm like is thischurch?
Are we at church?
That's what.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
I thought too.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
There's a harp player and then we get down and we
find out that this is theirdinner date, so they get.
Fancy restaurant, fancyrestaurant.
They get seated by the.
Really this is their dinnerdate, so they they get fancy
restaurant.
Getting fancy restaurant.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
They get seated by the really obnoxious french
waiter we're missing the theglory that is hulk hogan's
outfit suit.
He's dressed like an angel.
He's all white with his whitehair, like he is.
He is the epitome of good.
That's what I got out of this.

(29:46):
It's like this guy's as good asit gets be on board, and I'm
not.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Obviously I don't like him, uh, but it's a
ridiculous outfit so the waiteris a total jerk and he's jerky,
and he's jerky.
And then the bus boy comes overand then the bus boy leaves and
goes and gets the waiter notthe waiter, this the head chef,
who comes oh head chef?
who comes out there and, lo andbehold, we find out.
Oh she, I think she says acouple obnoxious things.

(30:13):
Oh yeah, like, like, ripcouldn't order off of the menu
because he's too stupid yes,everyone was ragging on him
because he, the american,doesn't understand yada, yada,
yada.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
And then you know, oh , guess what?
Not only does he understand, hespeaks French and has been to
this restaurant many times.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
And he asks for the usual.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
The usual.
So is his waiter new?
Is he new to?

Speaker 1 (30:43):
the restaurant.
They did say he was new.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
They did drop a line in there that the chef was like
oh, you're new here, you do notknow.
Rip yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
I don't know man.
This doesn't make any sense.
Also, their accents are allterrible.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Once again we're seeing that Rip is a man of the
people.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
But he's a man of the world people, not just America.
He's beloved.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
So now, somehow, now we're back to Brill, of course,
because he's the movie's aboutand they, they have gone to this
weird horrifying bar, him andhis two assistants, and the bar
is, there's wrestling there,there's just all sorts of stuff.
Why did I write guy from BigTrouble?

(31:34):
Just all sorts of stuff I wrote.
Why did I write guy from bigtrouble?
Oh the, the guy that was thestar of big trouble and little
China was at one of the othertables and did a couple of gag
things and then disappeared.
Oh really, yeah, the Asian, theAsian guy that was the
counterpart.
He was at one of the othertables and there was like a gag
with a woman and then he's goneand you're just like, oh okay,

(31:57):
and so there's wrestling goingon and there's this obnoxious
waitress woman and there's alittle person who's in a cage
dressed as like a drum majoretteand he's throwing peanuts down
into their drinks.
This is the second laugh of themovie for me.
I thought that was Not thatit's a little person in the cage

(32:21):
, but that he's sitting up therethrowing peanuts into their
drinks is just so insane.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
It's like it's crazy.
This whole scene is thecraziest thing I've ever seen.
I don't understand.
Okay, I have a lot of questionsabout this scene, dan.
First, and most importantly tome, where does this movie take
place?
Los Angeles, okay, that's whatI thought as well.

(32:49):
Yeah, but every single personin this bar and all of, like,
the lower status people of thismovie have like super hick
southern accents and likedisgusting, as if they're hill,
like these crazy hill people.
Sunland Is that a town inCalifornia?

(33:10):
Sunland?
I guess I'm taking a trip thisweekend because I got to know
what this reference means.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Don't go to Sunland.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
I have to go to Sunland.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
I don't know I'm being disparaging of the people
in Sunland.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
But yeah, I did not understand where they went for
this wrestling match.
I have no idea where this baris.
As far as I can tell it, itlives in some like weird david
fincher universe that isparallel, I don't know.
Super weird.
And then the waitress, her gagis like that weird mucus thing

(33:48):
that she what, what?
is happening there whose choicewas that.
I might believe that thisactress went to to work the
first day and was like guys, doyou mind if I do a really funny
bit with my nose, and just thewhole time?
Or might I believe VinceMcMahon was like hey, sweetheart
, why don't you give me one of?
I don't know?

(34:09):
I was so taken aback.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
We probably need to track down the script, but
that's for another day.
So now we're going to get themy favorite part of the movie
and my third laugh of the movie,and then this is about 30
minute mark and that's when thismovie ends for me.
Oh wow.
So the two assistant bills.
Two assistants have to go tothe bathroom, so they walk over
and they say your laugh oh god,yes, I love this part.

(34:34):
So bad.
It was so, so good, so they'relike I gotta drain the lizard
and whatever, so the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
He's trying to fit in with the people.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
He's trying to fit in with the people.
So I went and I made a speciallist of the bathroom.
This is a 27-minute mark.
Leave the lizard so they gointo this dirty, disgusting
bathroom.
The first joke is spray painton the outside is vd room vd
room.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
What I can't believe.
You laughed at that dangreatest joke.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Ever so good it's so good.
So it also that's how they'regoing in and it has those
plastic strips.
You know, like where it's ait's.
You have to push through theplastic strips, which is so
gross, so gross.
And then they get in andthere's three urinals.

(35:29):
One of them is filled withliquid to the brim and there's
pools of stuff on top of it likemold growing, and there's like
a beer can in there too.
And then we get to the bestpart of the whole movie.
Chained up in the back of thebedroom is a dog and the tech

(35:54):
dog that growls at them yeah,yep, all of that happened.
I can't believe you like that somuch.
It was so funny.
Oh my god, it was so funny andthen nothing else in the movie
was funny.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
So here's what's interesting about this scene is
I thought what you were going tolaugh at was the tiny Wang joke
that comes up.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
That was dumb.
No, you just like the setup ofthe room, the setup of the room,
because it felt authentic.
It felt like some place thatyou could end up going into.
Because, like, if you looked atall the graffiti, I'm like
pretty sure that place was realI yeah, for sure I'm not
convinced that the setdecorators were like okay, we're

(36:42):
doing all this because thegraffiti looked very real.
It looked like some place thatyou would.
You know, I used to go to punkrock clubs way back in the day
in the 80s and you would walk inplaces and you just be like I
do not want to touch anythingright now I gotta turn around
very, very bad.
So the big brutish guy comesout and is gonna like dunk their

(37:08):
heads in the toilet, and hedoesn't do it because they have
tiny uh dicks yeah, teeny, teenywang.
Teeny wang.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
That's the part that I laughed at.
That's fair.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
VD-Ru, and so anything else to say about this
situation.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
I did not like that scene at all.
I was so viscerally upset bythe way it looked.
I spent the scene like this.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
There it is's that's funny.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yeah, no, I mean, they did a great job.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
They really let me feel it so now we have the
announcement of the battle ofthe tough guys.
Where did they do theannouncement of the?
Did they do it out?

Speaker 2 (37:48):
so zeus comes in no, that's later.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
He's not there yet.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Oh really, yeah, yeah oh, that's at the battle of the
tough guys.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
So he was he and oh, he announces it outside.
So we're out now.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
We're outside of the bar later, that's yes they do
like a transition where theguy's like who's gonna watch
this, or something like that,and then they cut to him making
the announcement at a pressrally battle the tough guys.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
We see the bars.
In the background there's'sthis big beautiful neon sign.
If you look at that sign, Ilooked at it again.
It's gorgeous, it's like it'sbeautiful.
You're like oh my God, theyspent money on that sign.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
I got to get a neon sign.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
And so then we go inside and so we're having
Battle of the Tough Guys$100,000.
We're trying to find thetoughest guy, which I thought it
was going to be.
You know, at the end of theseries you get the a hundred
thousand, but they give Zeus thea hundred thousand at the very
first one.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
So this is my question Cause.
Then he continues to battle, sothe show is still going on.
Does he get a hundred K every?

Speaker 1 (38:49):
week Not clear, but the the implication was yes, he
gets a hundred K each week.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Like every time you, you get 100K.
That's unbelievable, it's great, it's great.
That's so much money.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Oh, the no-count bar which I liked, and it's an
octagon which it might be new toprofessional wrestling.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah, when did the UFC start?
When was the octagon?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
There's a movie called the octagon from the
eighties, maybe from theseventies, I remember when I was
a kid.
So the octagon, I think, wasalways sort of a mixed martial
arts sort of thing that hadexisted.
You know, it's like a Thailandkind of thing, I think I, you
know, sure, we kind of thing.
I think you know we could beproven wrong, but my
understanding, my cursoryunderstanding, so then we, you

(39:41):
know, so Brill, walks throughthere and meets some of the guys
, and then we have one guy who'scalled Bulldog McPherson who
slaps his own head.
And I thought of you, tony, youthought of me.
Yeah, he looked a little likeyou.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Oh, that's so kind of you.
I was rooting for him the wholetime.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
So then we have All 10 seconds, we have a big battle
, and so guys just startwrestling and fighting.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
So I need to talk about the general setup of this
quote-unquote show.
Yeah, first of all, battle theTough Guy's terrible name.
I don't know what boredomapproved that, but they should
all be fired.
There's no referee Nope.
There's no rules Nope.
How did they get approval to dothis from a network television

(40:30):
show?

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Well, they're in charge Brill's in charge of the
network.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
That's just not so.
He's in charge of the network.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
That's just not so he's in charge of the network
sure where are like the ratingspeople?

Speaker 2 (40:40):
where are the?
Where's like the approvalprocess?
We are not in apost-apocalyptic world where you
could just kill people, sure nodon't say yes, because we
haven't seen that.
They haven't shown me a world.
But this would be okay, that'sthis world there's no stop
saying that this is the world,this is the world where those
things occur you can do anythingin this world.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
You can assault people, as we will see.
And no, this is, this is norepercussions world kind of like
wrestling.
Are there real repercussions inwrestling?
Does anybody ever actually dieexcept triple h?

Speaker 2 (41:13):
I mean, yes, didn't.
Uh, one of the hearts died tooright.
A lot of wrestlers die, yeah,like they die all the time
anyhow but nobody goes.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
But vincent van doesn't go to jail for wrestlers
dying no one really does, dothey?
No, because you, you know, youyeah I mean, it is what it is.
It's one of those, it's aculture, right, you know, and
it's like you can't really turnon the culture.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
I mean you can leave the culture, but you can't turn
on it, because that's aninteresting point that this
whole movie is a wrestling worldas opposed to wrestling being
in the world.
No, wrestling is the world.
I didn't think about it likethat, yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Not to be facetious, but it is.
This whole thing is kind of areflection on how that you know
how that world works and wherethere aren't, you know.
It's like you can come upbehind a guy with a chair and
beat him over the head with itand there are no repercussions.
If you know he can't, he's notgonna sue you or take you to
court or anything and this thing.
People are put in the hospitaland you know they're dead.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
People are dead before this movie's over, but
we'll keep going oh yeah, sortof so then.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
so they're battling and then zeus comes, breaks down
the door, I think, and then hecomes in and it's tiny lister
who's not a wrestler, who's likean actor, and he I did not know
this about him he played Zeeboin Friday.
I guess I didn't remember that,and he is so good in Friday.

(42:42):
As I remember it, I haven'tseen it in years.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
He is terrible in this In his defense.
Everyone is terrible in thismovie.
I don't think there's a singleredeeming actor in this movie,
is there?

Speaker 1 (42:56):
that dog in the bathroom.
That dog in the bathroom I lovethat dog.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
That dog killed me it killed me.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
That just killed that dog killed me.
It was so great.
He's like there's like thisthere's like this line and then
he's chained to the line.
I think think he's a boxer.
I do love boxers Boxers usuallynot violent dogs.
But if a boxer wants to killyou, you will die.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Oh yeah, they're pound for pound.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
They are fierce animals.
Boxer is one muscle as much aspit bulls.
So Zeus comes in and just Iwrote down hurts a woman.
Does he hurt a woman?
He must have hurt a woman.
Does he hurt a woman?
He must've hurt a woman.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Yeah, he literally grabs her by, like I thought he
was going to pop her head.
He grabs her and like, liftsher up and then throws her down
the stairs, and then I was like,oh okay, he's the bad guy Got
it, which is so infuriating.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
So somehow they're watching it in Rip's mansion,
which, I bet you, that mansionwas Hulk Hogan's mansion at the
time I would buy that those arethe questions I wanted answered
about this movie.
It's like this is Hulk Hogan's.
I want to know where theselocations were.
I would like to know moreinformation.
Where is that bathroom so I cango visit it?

Speaker 2 (44:13):
I need to go right now.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
So one of them said either the brother or the friend
says you could take this guy asZeus is like mopping up the
floor with whoever's in there.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Which is another thing to me.
That signifies that they'resaying that wrestling is real in
this world, and it's importantto notate this only for
otherwise the Hulk shouldn'teven be involved in this thing,
because this is a fight club.
What Brill has created is justa televised fight club.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
I think we have the answer to your question, which
is the next line that comes outof his trainer.
He says about Zeus he killedsome kid in the ring.
Wait and wait for it.
The bell?
Yeah.
So you have to.
So if he did, if zeus hadkilled someone in the ring in

(45:04):
before, before the bell thumbsup.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
You know, totally fine, don't worry about part of
the situation.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
You died.
You died, tough luck.
What are you doing?
You should.
You should have gotten out ofthe ring before you died, but if
you kill, him after the ring,then it's a problem, right?

Speaker 2 (45:19):
yeah, the bell, the bell is.
The is the thing.
You gotta do it before the bellbell rings.
You're done, all right, oh god.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
And then I also wrote tear out hair.
Did.
Did zeus tear out some guy'shair?

Speaker 2 (45:31):
yeah, the guy on the ground.
He just scalped him a littlebit, which is so it's such a
weird and he like presents it tobrills camp as if, like it's a
trophy, I don't know, it's weird, nice he should.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
He should have like these scalps, he should have
like a belt of scalps.
That's it.
You should do that in your, inyour wrestling thing belt of
scalp, okay and then you liketear off the scalps and it's
like, do they ever do any likereally bloody wrestling where
there's all sorts of blood umappliances?

Speaker 2 (46:06):
it.
Do you mean in my wrestling?
Yeah, oh no.
No, we're, we're like a, we'rea wrestling comedy show squeaky
clean but I do.
I have a, a guy acquaintance.
I was I'm kind of friends withhim who used to do like backyard
wrestling.
His name, uh, sick nick mondo,pretty famous, but like he like
one one one of his matches hetook a weed whacker to the chest

(46:28):
and like it's, it's gruesome,it.
It's tough to watch, but thatstuff exists.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
They're not gags.
It's very scary.
They're actually bloody.
Yes, I was like doing like youknow, you mean jokes like joke
gags you know where, like oh youknow you have.
You're wearing a bald cap andthen there's blood on there and
they sculpture the bloodseverywhere.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Yes, we do things like that, but in a ridiculous
way.
We had a monster getdecapitated.
We do a lot of costumes, a lotof monster building, and one of
the monsters tore up, got hishead torn off and then his spine
was out.
It's pretty cool.
Okay, it's dope See that's good.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
So we're back to Brill and his office.
They're number one in the timeslot with Battle of the Tough
Guys and he's got the telegramsto show it.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
I don't.
I'm confused.
It doesn't even really matter,because who Is it?
The same time slot as theHulk's show.
Did they switch time slots?

Speaker 1 (47:33):
It can't be because Hulk's at home watching the show
all his life.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
So what time slot?
Why does it even matter?
He's not even technicallybeating Rip, he's just like
number one in a time slot.
So I don't understand what'shappening.
But it's fine, it's all fine.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
So then we go to week two of the battle, and this one
occurs in a foundry, andthere's all these good word, all
these uh metal workers, andthen the guy he's fighting is
going to fire.
There's fire, he's fighting theguy lug wrench, or maybe I made
that up, or maybe they calledhim that and he has I hope they

(48:13):
did though he's got a big metaltool weapons, so weapons allow
are allowed there's no rule.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
People are dying in this ring, dan for sure it's.
There's no doubt in my mindthat people are dead I don't
remember.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
So it was.
Was there anything interestingin that battle?
I don't really remember.
I didn't write down anything,of course not, absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Uh, this is just.
This is the only note that Iwrote here was so does he get
100k every time he wins?
That's, that was the only thingI took away from this scene, is
they never mentioned whether ornot he was getting 100k again
yeah, I mean, I wanted to know.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Like, looking back now we see that hulk wrestled in
the very first scene.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
And he has not wrestled since.
He hasn't done anything sincethen.
He went on a date that waspretty bad.
He's barely in this movie.
There's no build up to hischaracter to get to the final
battle.
We're following the wrongpeople through the movie.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
So Zeus has had two matches which he's won
unequivocally, and Hulk's hadone.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
So and Zeus didn't even come in till like the 20
minute mark or maybe even more,30 minutes I think you said it
was when the bathroom was right.
Yes, 27 minutes.
So he's done more in the latterhalf of this movie than Hulk
does the entire time.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
So I wrote hogan trip .
I don't know what that means.
Did they go on a trip?
Because they end up at a diner.
What happened before the diner?
They end up in this, this diner, where it's a woman that
hogan's like oh, I'm gonna takeyou on a trip maybe.
And he, he takes her off, takesa, yeah the manager woman how
they got there and they end upat this diner, which, of course,
I'm gonna take you someplacereally nice, and it's just this

(49:56):
piece of shit diner like thatfelt like a set diner food.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
I love diner food, so like I'm okay with it.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
But to call it to like build it up is probably he
does a whole build up and he'swearing, like the, his baby
blues, which is the shirt that Iwant.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
It's a baby blue shirt and it says Rip them, it's
in the mail, guys.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Of course, at this point robbers show up, two
robbers with guns and they'relike everybody get on the floor.
And Rip's like oh no, Rip sayseverybody get on the floor and
Rip beats the hell out of them.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Which is my biggest problem with this scene is Rip
literally tips off the bad guysthat he's about to fight them
Because he just yells to thewhole restaurant.
Everybody hit the floor andthen the bad guys aren't still
paying attention.
One of them gets hit with astool.
If you are robbing a place andyou have a gun and somebody

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screams, my first reaction wouldbe to look directly at him and
possibly shoot him.
Yeah, so terrible robbers forthe first, like they're the
worst robbers in the world.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
And there's a lot of pies thrown.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
He just throws pie after pie.
He literally destroys all ofthe food in this restaurant and
just mangles the whole place.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
He destroys the entire restaurant and saves the
you know $27 in the register andrisks the lives of everyone
there.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Everyone's dead In the real world.
Everyone has been shot becausethose bad guys just started
firing their guns right and hecaused I would say
conservatively like $50 thousanddollars in damages to this
restaurant.
Like the restaurant needs to berebuilt at this point.
He's breaking things, he'sdestroying the walls and then

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everybody claps because he savedwhich is because he's, which is
the second.
There's a second time at the end, we'll.
We'll get to that as well,where they clap and they should
like.
This guy is a villain, dan.
He's this movie in my mind.
He is a villain in this movie.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Here are the people.
So, oh, that's why they went onthis trip.
I don't know why they were on atrip, but that sets up.
They have to stay in the motel.
There's only one motel room, sohe and the agent have to stay
there together.
He sets up this is a greatscene.
No, it's not.
This scene is so dreadful.

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He sets up the curtain betweenthem where it's like one side or
the other.
What movie is that from?
Tony?
Oh, no, I have no idea it'stotally ripped off from this old
Clark Gable film.
You think I've seen a ClarkGable movie?
No, I don't think you've seen aClark Gable film.
You think I've seen a ClarkGable movie?
No, I don't think you've seen aClark Gable movie.
What am I, 80 years old, Ican't think of the name now, but

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they did the exact same thing.
So that bit's ripped off, soit's a recycled bit, and so he's
like he's listening at the doorto her, she's listening at the
door to him.
We get this nice shot of hisass.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Hold on, you are getting no slow down, because
that reveal was my biggest laughof the movie.
His ass, His well.
Sure, but the reason why we seehis ass, do you remember why?

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Cause the camera operators in love with his ass?
I don't know.
Maybe we're talking aboutdifferent shots but it's after
they're like in bed and shewakes up and the bed is shaking.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
No, there's another shot of his ass before that.
Okay, let's wait until we getto mine, because it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
So they go to bed and then she's laying there and we
hear this and the whole bed ismoving and we're like he's
jerking off or he's having sexwith God only knows what.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
He's not a woman in there, Inanimate objects
probably.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Tell them what is really going on, Tony.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
He's.
So she is.
She's curious.
First of all, it's so weird tome, like if you wake up and
there's a giant, I'm trying toput myself in a woman's shoes
and I'm in a bed, slightlyuncomfortable, and I wake up and
the whole bed is shaking afterI just kind of rejected this
dude and I'm like, oh, I thinkhe's jerking off.

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I'm either running out thefricking door.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
She can't cause.
He's on the door side, so she'sgoing to she's going to.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
I'm going to cower in the corner and pray to god that
nothing bad happens, butinstead she's curious and like,
slowly, she like wants to seethis guy's d which
understandably, because theyshowcase it a lot in this movie
without ever showing it.
That's true, but they're likethey want you to know that
hulk's package is pretty great.
So she peeks behind the curtainand it turns out that he is

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doing the world's fastestpush-ups, because to get the bed
to shake that way and hisbreathing was like like there's
no way he's doing push-ups thatfast he's.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
He's doing push-ups with his feet up on the bed.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
That makes him harder .
It's a great move.
It's a great move so then youget so anyhow you get the, the
curtain pulls back and you justsee his butt, perfectly clenched
like, just you know, solid as arock there, dan, and he peeks
up, peeks over his butt to her.
I don't remember what he evensays, but some sort of witty
line.
And it's amazing, it's a greatscene.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
So he finishes and then he's like now I'm going to
jump in the bed.
So he jumps to the bed anddestroys the bed and she rolls
over on top of him and she'slike I'm not like one of your
ditzy groupies, which, of course, we have seen.
No ditzy groupies.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
That would have been fun.
He's not a ladies' man, he'snot.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
that has no bearing to me whatsoever and then I I
don't really remember whathappens then um he, he gets all
huffy, he gets defensive and he,he storms out of the room.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
He's like I'm gonna go sleep on the couch in the in
the main room because you're nofun, you can't take a joke or
something like that, and I waslike what is happening?

Speaker 1 (55:54):
just destroyed the bed.
You've left her in the roomwith the destroyed bed.
What a gentleman.
He's a bad guy.
So the next scene we see her inbrill's office wait, wait, dan,
we have to.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
I have a note we have to talk real quickly about,
before everything we just talkedabout.
They're both brushing theirteeth, and she is brushing her
teeth in the bathroom, whereyou're supposed to do it, and
he's just out in the main roombrushing his teeth dry.
Is that a thing?
No, what do you do with thetoothpaste?
And then he takes a swig ofmouthwash and he's you know he's

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doing.
He doesn't have anywhere tospit it, so he's like looking
for a place to spit it andthat's where she comes out in
her bra Great scene.
That's where she comes out, andthen he swallows the mouthwash.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
You're not supposed to swallow mouthwash.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
You're definitely not supposed to do that.
He swallowed toothpaste andmouthwash in like 30 seconds.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
He's going to die the guy's dead.
I'm glad we went back to that.
One of the high points of thismovie is Hulk Hogan brushing his
teeth.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
I'm sorry, it bothers me.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
So it turns out she's working for Brill somehow.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Okay, you didn't understand it either, because
this twist I was like no, she'snot.
Yeah, she is, and is she ahooker?
No, he said he paid her toseduce him.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Yeah, so he found.
Essentially, he found out thatshe was his manager, so he paid
her to seduce him.
That's why they had the onehotel room.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
She set that all up.
I got that part, I understoodthe end, but I didn't understand
.
I don't understand when she Idon't know.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Okay continue, and so she has fallen in love with him
.
Of course, obviously because,he's so charming Because he's so
charming, and so she's fallenin love with him, and so Brill
like slaps her.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
And so we know Brill's evil, right, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah again thank, thankgoodness that they did that
because otherwise I was like ishe a good guy?
I can't tell.
So she runs what?
Yeah, I, just I.
I was so confused at the plottwist that she was paid by him
oh, you were surprised, didn'tyou see that coming?
I saw that coming I just don'tunderstand the situation.

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So you're saying that she wasalways the manager?
That part was real.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Yeah, of course, because she worked for that
company.
And then he knew that sheworked for that company and was
his new manager, so then shepaid him off.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
He paid her off and then he bought her off, so she
has no morality, whereas theHulk has tons of morality in
this movie.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Yeah, except when he's leering at her like she's a
piece of meat.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Right, except for when he's a total creeper yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
So she goes crying to Hulk, says forgive me.
Hulk forgives her instantly,Whatever.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Well, she cries in this scene and it's only
important to note that she criesbecause she is a terrible crier
scene, and it's only importantto note that she cries because
she is a terrible crier, whichwhich I think now that I've seen
the whole movie I think is onpurpose, because hulk has to cry
later, and so I think shewanted.
I think he was like hey, youneed to be worse at crying than
I am, so when I do it, I looklike a good actor.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
that's my theory yeah , she's really deep down inside.
She's a good crier.
So then we cut to Hulk Hogan'steach kids to wrestle, challenge
, slash, whatever.
So he's teaching kids how towrestle.
And then a helicopter shows upand flies down and then Zeus and
Brill get out crashing theparty and they get right in

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Hulk's face and I challenge youto the battle of the big guys.
And Zeus probably sayssomething.
I didn't write it down becauseit wasn't interesting.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
I don't think he does .
Yeah, I think he just growls.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Zeus growls at him and Hulk just sort of looks at
him.
Then they get back in thecopter and leave.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Yeah, because he never responds.
Hulk doesn't really show muchemotion.
He holds the children back andjust kind of looks at them Wait
the kids were chanting Hulk orthey were chanting something and
rip.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
I mean it had to have been ripped and ripped Didn't
do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
No, he did absolutely nothing.
He doesn't respond, he doesn'tsay no, thanks, I'm not
interested, or like call melater and we'll talk about the
details.
He just stands there, justdoing nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
So then we have the whole scene where they try and
kidnap the girl and then Hulkshows up on a motorcycle and
defeats the kidnapping why theywere kidnapping her, just like.
Just like when they, with thelimo and taking him to the thing
to beat him up, they like dothese things for no reason, it
doesn't make any sense it's likeall of wrestling, it's just
everything.

(01:00:41):
Yes, the wig didn't come, okay,thank, you Just disappointment.
Hi.
So they just do things.
We're going to kidnap the womanbecause we need this 10-minute
bit, and so Hulk comes on themotorcycle and eventually gets
one of the guys on the front ofthe motorcycle, which he then

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throws into a tree hold on.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
There's two things we need to cover real quickly.
One hulk shows up and she isbasically mid-rate, like her
clothes are tattered and the guyis on top of her is he really?

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
I don't remember that yes, 100.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
That's why, like I, I don't know, maybe that's what
they're going for, but that'swhat it feels like.
I think you can laugh, becausethis movie is ridiculous.
My only thing is, all hulk doesis he rolls up, he looks at her
, he goes you okay, and then hedrives off.
Doesn't wait for an answer,like he shows no emotion for her

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, whatsoever he drives up on themotorcycle.
The guy takes off, he looks ather, you okay, and it drives off
, doesn't?

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
doesn't care, doesn't minister bc?
That's always actually I, Igotta take, I I gotta say that's
what he's supposed to do, right?
No, I don't think so.
One of my most giant.
Actually, this is a pet peeveof mine.
Every movie in the world whereshit is going down, we're in the
shit storm and there's theperson on the ground and they

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stop and they spend 25 minutes.
The world ends in 26 minutes.
Well, I will spend 25 minutessaying you okay, world.
The world ends in 26 minutes.
Well, I will spend 25 minutessaying you okay, you okay, you
all right, you need a pillow?
Yeah, you need a blanket, youneed this.
As opposed to going and doingthe thing that needs to be done.
Rip is like no dan, rip is see,that's see, I gotta.

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This is where rip is.
His emotionless care not isgoing to get the job done
because he's like I am not goingto waste my time.
But she said what did she say?
She's like thumbs up, not fullyraped.
You know, you give me thethumbs up, it's like I'm taking

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care of the business.
Yeah, I can always come back toyou.
This guy might get away.
I got to pick him up and throwhim into a tree with my
motorcycle.
I can't, I don't want to have.
I hate that scene, that stupidscene they always put in movies,
where it's like I'm going toshow that the person cares.
Oh, are you okay?
Oh, I was worried about you.
The world is ending.

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The bad guys are getting away.
I'm pointing a gun at the badguy, so he blows up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Oh, I can't do anything ever again, dan we put
those scenes in there becausewithout the goodness of people,
saving the world doesn't meananything.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
We know Hulk is good because he teaches kids to
wrestle and gives them snowcones.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
He's the bad guy of this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
He is a bad guy and this scene proves it to me he's
a creep.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
He has no compassion.
He only cares about killing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Okay, so let's talk about the motorcycle.
Zeus is going to have a thirdmatch before he's even had a
second.
Okay, yes, 100%.
The motorcycle.
There were two bad guys,weren't there?

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
There were two bad guys, but we only see him defeat
one of them as far as I canremember.
But the problem I have with thescene is that Hulk is on a
motorcycle, which is a prettysmall vehicle all things
considered, but this guy happensto run out just at the right
angle that Hulk can hit him withthe motorcycle.
Sure, just at the right angle.
That Hulk can hit him with themotorcycle.

(01:04:20):
Sure, what kind of a humanbeing gets hit with a motorcycle
while they're looking at it?
Stuntman, it's one of theeasiest vehicles to dodge.
That's all I'm saying.
All you have to do is move afoot to your left and you're
clear.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
They nailed that guy in Charlie's Angels.
That's true.
So now we get to like the thirdmatch, zeus's third match.
Hulk won zeus three, where he'sfighting mr crowbar, and in a
train.
This one's in a train station,weird train station.
So zeus wins.
I don't, I don't even write any.
Once again, I didn't writeanything down about the match

(01:04:58):
because it doesn't matter,doesn't matter at all.
And then Rip's brother and hisbuddy are there.
And then Brill's guys figuredthat out.
They're like oh no, they'relike, oh, you're wearing.
They tell them yeah, well, he'swearing the Rip shirt.
And so they're like oh, you'refans of Rip, but you're over.
Come over to the dark side, toZeus.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Oh yeah, they're like we've converted Rip fans.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
No, no, we're Rip fans.
And then and then they fight.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
I'm his brother, and so Zeus the friends is like no,
this is Rip's brother, which isyou're an idiot.
You deserve to get the shitkicked out of you right now, you
dumb idiot Shut up, shut up,shut up, shut up.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Once again, stupid people saying the quiet things
out loud, so ridiculous.
So then, zeus, you know they'relike you can't take Zeus, and
so Randy's like I didn't takeZeus, and so Randy like swings
at.
Zeus, and Zeus just destroyshim.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
He throws the first punch.
Dan, what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
So I guess it's not assault.
If he threw the first punch,zeus is out, so that's why
there's no police involved,that's right, you throw the
first punch.
Man Zeus can tear your tracheaout and throw it on your dead
body.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
He was afraid for his life obviously so that's
totally justified.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Oh my gosh.
So Zeus just beats the hell outof him.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Which I never saw coming, because the brother's
such a big guy, so dumb.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
So then, wow, before we get to the hospital, I guess
Rip goes to Zeus's funhouseslash training facility, and
this is the part Tony lovedbecause he just, he just tears
through it like a mad man tolike crazy rock music.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
He is crazy.
Dan, our hero is totallyunhinged.
He's on a war but he's justdestroying things.
For no reason I cannot getbehind him.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Did you expect there to be something behind that neon
sign?

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
So he throws something into a neon sign and
we're expecting it to crash andthey're being like the bad guys
or something, and no they kindof set it up like just visually
with the filmmaking.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
That Hulk looks at the sign and then it cuts to the
guys watching through thescreen.
So you're like oh, they'rebehind that area and somehow he
knows he's so good and then hedestroys it.
And it's not that it's likeokay.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
So then we go to the hospital and there's randy, he's
like in traction, and samanthaI guess her name is samantha the
woman she's like reading a book.
I couldn't tell what book shewas reading.
I'd like to know what book shewas reading, because she seems
kind of disinterested.
She's just like am I in thisscene, or can I just read
through this one?

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
That's just the book she brought to set that day and
she was, like you guys do yourscene.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
I'll read over here and then does Rip announce that
he's going to fight.
Now I don't remember how wesort of find out that he's
actually going to fight.
I don't remember how we sort offind out that he's actually
going to fight.
I don't even know.
I wrote down.
Now it's my turn.
Maybe he says that Somehowwe're clued into that Rip has
chosen to battle Zeus for thefinal thing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
So yeah, I guess I don't remember how they get
there exactly.
We start the training montagenext.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
So something happened in the hospital, the hospital
room, a decision is made in someway, shape or form, I don't
know how I don't even know ifthis is communicated to brill,
but they.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Well, they said uh, I mean, at one point I remember
the the friends were like, hestood up to zeus and this is
what happened, which is untrue.
He didn't stand up to Zeus, hestarted the fight, but it's fine
, it doesn't really matter.
So I don't remember if he likeofficially announces it or not.
But then we go into what Iguess you would call a training
montage, which is for the Hulkisn't training, it's the

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greatest training montage ever.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
You don't really.
You know, like I said, I didn'tlaugh since the bathroom scene,
which we'll talk about, thebathroom scene again at the end,
and the dog oh, will we?
Yes, we will.
So the training montage is Zeustraining on all these life
cycles, which I'm sure lifecycles paid some money for that.
Oh for sure they were great.
And then Rip is just helpingRandy with his physical therapy,

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trying to learn to walk againfrom the paralysis.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
So he's not preparing for the battle at all, no, he's
just like.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
It's so good, it's very good, it's very good Is it
good?

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Yeah, I think it is.
It doesn't make any sense.
Good, is it good?
Yeah, I think it doesn't makeany sense.
But it's too.
It's to the same upbeat, likemontage 80s music that you would
normally see, and it was justlike it just slows.
Oh, it's so weird.
It's such a weird juxtapositionfor me so we get now.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
We get to the final, the final match.
Randy's there in the wheelchair.
I wrote aquananet.
Someone must be using AquanetHairspray.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Okay, I don't even know what that is, and they
fight and Hulk wins.
Well, okay, what are youtalking about?
You can't just skate over thismagnificent scene.
First of all, we gotta talkabout the kidnapping that

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happens.
They grab the girl, they grabthe girl, they set it up as they
have this elaborate elevatortrick.
The bad guys are like is theelevator ready and they're like
the elevator's ready, don'tworry.
All they do is wait outside theelevator's ready, don't worry.
But they don't really.
All they do is wait outside theelevator, wait for everyone
else to go and then grab her andbring her into the elevator.

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They didn't have to set up theelevator at all they just had to
stand by the door.
What a weird, what a ridiculousplan that is now?

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
do they keep her in the control room for the whole
thing?
I don't even remember until sheescapes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Yes, okay, but my favorite part of the movie, dan,
and this I don't I was I'mhesitant to actually say this
because I think it's probablyvery offensive, but the hardest
I laughed in the whole film waswhen they kidnapped the girl and
and the brother, who's verysadly paralyzed, is in the chair

(01:11:23):
and can't turn around and hegoes.
What the hell's going on backthere?
I lost my mind then.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
So you're laughing at the disabled.
That's great, tony, that'swonderful.
There's poor kids in awheelchair beat up by Zeus and
you're like.
The funniest thing was when hecouldn't react, his disability
man.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
But they made a point of making him react to that
point, like it's the writing.
That made me laugh, because youdon't need to show that.
That's such a weird thing toshow is that they just kind of
push him out of the way andeveryone else turns to fight and
he's like what's going on backthere?
I, it was so unnecessary and Ijust I couldn't, I couldn't

(01:12:12):
handle it, I lost my mind.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
So there's a big fight.
They fight in the ring, theyfight out of the ring, they
fight up the stairs, they fightto the control room, and then,
finally, hulk wins, rip wins.
Well, he murders him and hetakes him and he throws him off
the thing, right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Yep Throws him like two stories onto the ring which
breaks Completely collapses,Does it?

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
No, it doesn't.
No, you're right, there's justa circle in the middle, this
perfect circle goes down in thecenter and you're just like why
is there a circular pit in themiddle of the ring?
Now, they didn't even like, Idon't know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
No, I know it's ridiculous, but then they cut to
him and he's got blood coming.
He's dead.
Quite literally, this man isdead, which is very important.
Okay, the hulk just killed aman, not only on tv, but in
front of all of these people,and then what does he do next?
Dan?

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
but.
But did he kill him after thebell?
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
as far as I know, there was no bell because
there's no rules it's's fair tokill.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
So then he.
But what does he do after?
I don't know?
Have a soda pop.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
No, he goes up to the control room.
Oh, to kill that guy and getsthe other dude electrocuted to
death, he fries him, and that'swhen we get the other line.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Stay away, you jock ass.
But actually the guy does it tohimself because he was tearing
out the cords, because he wastrying to stop the thing, and
then he backs into the stuff andelectrocutes himself.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
This is a technicality as far as I'm
concerned, dan, because the Hulkwas coming at him.
Ok, this guy tried to run andgot tangled in some wires and
died, so then the entire arenaerupts into applause.
I've got issues.
One they just watch this mankill two people that they don't

(01:14:09):
know are actually evil.
They have, they love this show,they're a fan of the show, they
love Zeus and they love theowner of the show, and this guy
just murdered them both in frontof them, and now they're
applauding.
It doesn't make any sense.
Stop putting on this outfit.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Tony, you have been defeated by Hollywood Dan
Goodsell, the greatest wrestlingcomedy movie commentator of all
time.
You shall take your place belowhim, because he's the greatest
of all time.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
That one was good.
That one held up much betterthan the one in the beginning.
I just I don't understand, Idon't under.
He's not a hero to me, he is avillain throughout the whole
movie.
And then he murders people incold blood.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
So I got issues final thoughts.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
I feel like that was my final thought.
I think I had a question on theshow itself, battle of the
Tough Guys.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
Yeah, battle of the Tough Guys.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
how yeah, Battle of the Tough Guys?
Sure.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
How is Hulk Hogan on that show when his show is at
the same time, even though it'snot at the same time?
Many questions, many questions.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
It's the same time slot, but they're beating the
ratings.
So obviously, maybe it'sbecause Hulk isn't there, guys.
That's why you're beating theratings.
Could be.
He's off taking family trips Isthe show 10 minutes long.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
It's only one fight If you start to look at movies
and start to think about time.
Time is a very dangerous thingwhen you start to look at movies
, because everything happens inthese tiny, tiny increments of
time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
I mean, I agree, but there's no fight card, so
there's one battle and thebattles don't last very long
because we watch them front toback, right.
So my question now becomes Well, there's interviews.
Are there Think pieces?
You know you can't just makethis up.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
I mean, you don't see any of that I've been watching
like the Eco Challenge, and it'sjust constant interviews
constant interviews.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
I don't think Zeus would be a very good interview.
Think about survivor.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Think about survivor, right.
Every show is an hour, and howlong do those?

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
those things take six minutes, like they do two, two
six minute challenges 12 minutes, like 48 minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
They are commercials and and blah, blah, people
talking.
So there's probably like Brillprobably talks about.
So, mr Brill, what did you dotoday?
I went and had a soda.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Okay, great, great, great Zeus.
What about you?
That's all the guy says.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
You know we probably have these great training
montages.
You know Zeus has that histraining center is all decked
out, that's true, it's prettynice.
They got cameras all over it.
All sorts of B-roll there, youdon't know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
I don't, I really don't know, I really don't.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
Because this movie is not rooted in any kind of
reality and that's sort of theproblem with it is if it had
gone, if it was gonzo, but, likeI said, that one guy that
reminded me of you, tony.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
This is how he hit his head with his hands.
Is that why he reminds you ofme?

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
because I'm afraid to hit myself he just looked a
little like you and he had asimilar bill.
Um, he didn't.
You know, he wasn't even trying.
You know, it's like for surenot.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
And that's this movie you know, he wasn't even trying
.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
You know it's like, for sure not.
And that's this movie.
You know they tried to do athing and it accomplished some
stuff and I'm sure this set aroad for wrestling to become
what it was.
Yeah, and I mean wrestling overthe next 20, 30 years.
30 years is a lot different nowthan it was then.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Oh, definitely 100%.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
And the characters have improved and the you know,
the storytelling has improvedand this, you know, vince
McMahon is still Vince McMahonand you don't want to have
anything to do with him becausehe's crazy, but but I do feel
like even he has kind of figuredthings out a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
You know, like he really leans into that heel vibe
now, yeah, even more than Ithink he did back then.
So I think I mean, you'reabsolutely right like we've
grown leaps and bounds, I think,in the, in the industry so you,
you know things have to startsomewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
There has to be that sweet little egg that births a
baby bird that doesn't grow upand becomes a smoker and just
sort of wastes life away.
That's this movie, jesus christ, that's dark.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Those four birds the one.
So my final thing I want to sayis the music of the movie,
which is used far too sparingly.
There's only I think there'sonly three music cues in the
movie.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
There were at least three or four songs, and then
the final song, the final songis the best.
The final song I wrote Will youStand With the Best?
It was a good little song.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
It was good.
It's awesome.
I really liked it a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
The other songs felt like they were sort of real-ish
too.
They weren't terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
No, but there's a lot of scenes in the movie I think
would have benefited from music,but they only really
highlighted the music during thefights, which I don't know if I
mean it was obviouslyintentional, but I don't know
what the purpose of that was,Because I feel like there was a
lot of moments where there wasjust dead silence in the movie
where I was like this wouldreally help with a score, maybe
Something popping.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
I'm sure I didn't watch any, but I'm sure if you
go back and watch those Rockymovies, they're probably scored
incredibly well when, just like,every montage is just like
da-na-da, da-na-da, da-na-da,and you know, a movie like this
just doesn't.
They don't have the budget orthe wherewithal to understand
and to do all that stuff whichyou know.

(01:20:01):
I mean.
Yes, real music set to allthese wrestling things would
have made them interesting.
As it was, they were just sortof sloppily choreographed
one-off shots, blah, blah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
Blah, blah.
That's a good way to sum up themovie.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
Now let's talk about that dog in the bathroom some
more okay, all right, we'llcircle back.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
What do you got?
Oh, it's your favorite thing inthe world.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
I I did enjoy that.
So we're gonna, we're gonnawrap up, uh and say goodbye, no
holds barred.
You were fun, but we're movingon.
We're moving on.
So, uh, now we pick somethingwe enjoyed this week.
Uh, two things.
Like I said, I've been watchingthat eco challenge on netflix,
which I have a lot of problemswith, but it's also pretty fun,

(01:20:53):
uh, because you get to see likereal people that do this thing
and I've done it for a long timeand they, they're super
interesting.
And then there's also onNetflix there's a thing called I
think it was Super Cubers,about Rubik's Cube kids, the
kids that do the speed Rubik'sCubes Blows my mind.
And there's two main kids thekid that's sort of fading and

(01:21:13):
then the other kid who's sort ofon the rise, and the one rise
kid is a-American but he'sautistic.
Oh, okay, which is reallyinteresting.
And it's like 40 minutes,really nice.
Look at these characters, lookat these real people.

(01:21:34):
And it's nice to see these realpeople when you sort of get
buried in characters that aren'tfully formed at all, because
real people have so manydimensions.
Ain't that the truth?
Ain't that the fact?
What do you got for us, tony so?

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
I'm going to go a little off the rails on this one
, because I had a disappointingmedia week.
We tried to watch or we did didwatch.
We watched palm springs thisweek, which I was disappointed
in I don't know what that and wewatched, uh, space force, which
I was also pretty muchdisappointed there was a couple
of moments I liked what's spaceforce?

(01:22:12):
Space force is the steve carellshow on netflix that was my
first review.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
I did a whole review of it.
Oh, did you?
Did you like it?
No, it horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
It is the biggest piece of garbage ever and we
could do it.
I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
Oh my God, that's why we're doing this show.
I watched that and I did myreview.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
This is the impetus of that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
Yeah, I did my review of that and I did my review of
Ad Astra both things that mademe so angry.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
I never saw Ad Astra so real, real quickly I, and
then I'll get to my actualrecommendation.
Uh, did you hate the?
Did you watch the whole seriesof space?

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
Oh God, no, I watched the first episode and then I
watched the first five minutesof the second episode and I was
like this is garbage.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Okay, I liked the second episode for the uh the
chimster not bit.
It was good.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
Oh, it's a chimp up there and he's trying to.
Yeah, I watched the wholesecond episode.
It was horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Oh no.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
So I will say we did finish it and we're we're not
crazy about it Like it's, sothose are not my recommendations
.
Instead, the only thing thatbrought me joy this week was uh,
this is a musical release,actually not a musical release.
Actually Not a musical movielike an actual album.
Wait, you're picking a record.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
Yes, just hear me out alright, I had a tough week.
It kills me while I change therules.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
I am changing the rules.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
I said I'm going off the rails, is it like?

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
Blink-182 or something I mean.
Blink is great.
They released a new song calledQuarantine, which I really
enjoy, but old dominionre-released their latest album
in what they call the meow mix,which is where he replaced all
of the lyrics with the word meow.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
I don't know, I don't even know anything.
You're saying old dominion.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
You mean like the old dominion is a country band, a
country school, it's a countryband, old dominion.
They're like rock, country rockkind of thing, uh.
But he, they re-released theirnewest album with the lyrics
replaced with the word meow andit's uh.
I've listened to it severaltimes through because it makes
me laugh super hard well, thatis.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
That is freaking pathetic.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Hypothetic Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
I would go back into the Hollywood Dan Goodsell
persona to smack you down overthat, but he does not stoop that
low.
So we're going to start pickinghorror movies soon.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
Soon Two more weeks, almost October, almost October.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
Almost October, or at least when these shows will.
So my pick this week?
I had this one pick and it wasqueued up and I watched the
first 10 minutes.
I'd never seen it before andit's really bad.
We'll do it again.
And then I was looking aroundand then I saw this other movie
and I like how much first 10minutes of this movie.
Okay, this is my movie 2008.

(01:25:03):
American american romanticcomedy.
Okay, 2008 was the year thatthese movies came out.
Dark night yeah, iron man,indiana jones wall e.
Kung fu panda twilight mammamia, get smart.
We're gonna have to go back toget smart at some point.
Get smart.
Yeah, kung Fu Panda, twilightMamma Mia, get Smart.
We're going to have to go backto Get Smart at some point.

(01:25:24):
Get Smart yeah.
Tropic Thunder.
Oh, tropic Thunder, one of thegreatest movies of all time.
So good, maybe top 10 comediesof the past 30 years.
Oh for sure.
Journey to the Center of theEarth, the movie that Brendan I
never saw that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
Yeah, Brendan Fraser.

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
That was the end of his career.
Yeah, pineapple Express theHappening Marky Mark.
This movie's down at number 92on the box office list, 92.
Down below Of 2008?
2008.
Wow, american romantic comedyJessica Alba Down below Of 2008?
2008 Wow 92.

(01:26:01):
American romantic comedyJessica Alba Okay, justin
Timberlake, john Oliver Ben.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Kingsley Is this.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
Valentine's Day and star Mike Myers.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
Guru, the love guru.
Okay, I never saw it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
I had not seen it either.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
I've seen the first 10 minutes of this movie Okay,
and it's good.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
It is not good.
Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Dan it.
It is not good it is.
Let me ask you a question, dan.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
So not good this are you a mike myers fan, sure I'm a
huge fan.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
Okay, okay, this is the movie that killed his career
.
Yes, he put this movie out andthat's.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
I should have said that at the beginning.
This is one of those careerkilling movies.
I love those.
We've done a couple of them now.
His career he had to go and dothe gong show and has not
appeared in anything.
He starred and co-wrote thisthing and it is just a pile.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
I can't wait.
I'm genuinely so excited forthis movie.
It's been on my watch list fora while, oh really.
It's been hard to get myself todo it, because I love him so
much.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
Yeah, and I think this is one of those movies
where you're going to have to goin and watch some of the other
movies and say why are thesemovies successful?
And you know, I'm going todefinitely watch one of the
Austin Powers ones before andwatch some of the other movies
and say, why are these moviessuccessful?
And you know, I'm gonnadefinitely watch one of the
austin powers ones before Iwatch one of those and you know,
say what you want about thewayne's world movies.
They're not great movies butthey're great characters.
They're not, oh well for surethe characters are incredible.

(01:27:56):
You know, structuring acharacter out into a movie is
always a very hard thing to do.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
I, I don't know that ballroom blitz scene so good.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
What's the ballroom?

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
blitz Do a ballroom blitz, ballroom blitz, it's.
They perform that song andthere's like it's like it
doesn't really matter.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
Is that at the end?
Is that the final scene?

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
I think it's the end of the second one.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
I think, I can't remember.
Maybe it's the end of the firstone.
They blend together.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
Movies blend together .
So that's the end of thisepisode of Hate Watching with
Dan and Tony.
I'm Dan and that's I'm Tony,and we're going to see you next
time at the YouTube.
We've got to figure out anending With.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Dan and Tony, we gotta figure out an ending.

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